Sae Itoshi Is NOT A Bad Brother | Blue Lock Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2023
- Sae itoshi is commonly thought of in the blue lock community as a "bad" brother, in this video i go over his actions to answer the question; was he really that bad?
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Itachi lite lmfao
Lmfao. The resemblance is there, now that I think of it.
Itachi has bangs on the sides of his face? Same with Sae and possibly lots more matches to Itachi.
Imagine if, after Sae explains his new dream, Rin just said: "Ay, that's nice. That way we can dominate 2 thirds of the field instead of just the forward area. Anyway, wanna play?"
This is what I am saying.
I have often seen people say that what rin said to sae was equally horrible and I do agree but rin wouldn't have said anything if sae had just explained everything to him fairly.
the good ending
oh dear oh god.
2 Prodigy MFs? That's a whole problem and a half and possession for their team will always be above 70% LMFAO
The way I view it, it's never really been about football for Rin, but about his and Sae's personal relationship. Playing with Sae and sharing this dream with him mattered far more to Rin than becoming the best (or 2nd best) striker in the world. Even now, he plays bc he wants to reconcile with Sae, and he thinks that surpassing him is the best way to reach this goal (or at least that's how it was until the NEL). It's always been about Sae, not the sport itself. So the argument that, by destroying their relationship and pushing Rin to become a better striker, Sae only has Rin's best interest in mind, has never really made sense to me. Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding smth, but as an older sibling myself, Sae will always be a bad brother in my eyes.
I hope this goes the opposite of Naruto’s Sasuke and Itachi ending with them separating completely instead of reconnecting. Rin after hearing Sae’s words toward Yoichi could have had him going further down a villain path and if he beats sae, he might just disown him completely and go for bigger goals past beating the man who crushed his dreams.
Rin kicked the ball his first time wondering if he could become the best striker in the world.
Stop pushing the narration that Rin plays only cause of Sae, his original dream is the same as Isagi's. It got sealed like everyone else's and he will take more time to awaken it completely
@@yoursteak5215 and I'd love this
Sae and rins story is basically Sasuke and itachis story and I love it. Blue lock is amazing
The problem i have is that Sae could have just told Rin all of what you said in the video instead of spitting in his face and potentially ruining their relationship for the rest of their lives.
definitely possible
nah the thing with rin is he’s naive. even from the match with world 5 you can see how he thought he could still win. sae probably knew this about rin and didn’t want rin to depend on him too much to share a dream
@@madison9096 Sure but like i said he could just tell Rin all of that instead of giving him ptsd
And i would much rather have Rins mindset where he doesnt give up untill the match is over than anyones elses.
@@aleksamilosevic8792 Rin had never felt defeat; characters like that are often naive and overly optimistic. As dense as he was, there is little to no way Sae could inspire him without breaking him first. Doing something for someone else is the trope Blue Lock's author despises, so, for Sae to appraise how strong Rin's resolve is, he had to sever their ties and force him to awaken the strikers Ego, which revolves around being an egoist and disposing the need of others help.
If Sae were really detached from Rin, he could just ignore him and let him be, but he mustered his determination to provoke Rin while irreversibly ruining their relationship to send Rin into the ultimate test of purpose.
And why does Sae go this far for Rin? Easy, have you ever seen a young relative making the same mistakes as you in your youth? How helpless and cringy do you feel seeing that train wreck in third person while being unable to interfere in the canon event? Well, that is why he did what he did imho.
@@cuentaacademica3613 ``Rin had never felt defeat; characters like that are often naive and overly optimistic. As dense as he was, there is little to no way Sae could inspire him without breaking him first. Doing something for someone else is the trope Blue Lock's author despises, so, for Sae to appraise how strong Rin's resolve is, he had to sever their ties and force him to awaken the strikers Ego, which revolves around being an egoist and disposing the need of others help.``
Sae could have challanged him and told him he has regressed and that he should go back to his instinctual style
``f Sae were really detached from Rin, he could just ignore him and let him be, but he mustered his determination to provoke Rin while irreversibly ruining their relationship to send Rin into the ultimate test of purpose``
I already explained what he sohuld have done
``And why does Sae go this far for Rin? Easy, have you ever seen a young relative making the same mistakes as you in your youth? How helpless and cringy do you feel seeing that train wreck in third person while being unable to interfere in the canon event? Well, that is why he did what he did imho.
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I DID NOT mentally destroy my brother for life and ruin our relationship for the rest of our lives
Honestly it’s just tough love between them I don’t think he’s a bad brother I just think he got pissed when rin said he wasn’t gonna be a striker anymore.
This is an anime so Sae's actions are excusable but if this was real life I would not excuse him for what he did.
Like imagine, what if Rin really gave up on football or in worst case scenario got depressed or suicidal.
AND THIS COULD HAVE REALLY HAPPENED IF THIS WAS NOT AN ANIME.
So if someone did this in real life they're asking for a beating.
Moral of Itoshi brothers story : Don't let animes affect your worldviews.
Tbh his actions aren’t excusable even if it’s only fiction, Itachis actions weren’t excusable, and a bad brother is a bad brother tbh
@@outerspacegaming7754 I agree with you. I wasn't trying to downplay sae's deeds. It's just that we don't have Sae's pov so I am just holding back rn.
I just hope they make up at some point.
that's why he said it.. because it's an anime
what are u on about lmao
@@outerspacegaming7754Agreed
People thought he was a bad brother, sure before seeing their flashback, the guy seemed like a asshole, but after getting the flashback, it’s clear he’s just pulling an Itachi.
itachi was the blueprint fr
@@OutlawTruth it was the right choice, sure it was obvious, but I think it payed off, mainly with the awakening of his brother.
Prove it that he's playing Itachi
@@potatoo4 He’s a older brother that loves his sibling, willing to make himself become the most hated man, just so he could help his brother. Also mentally crushing his brother so he can become the best version of himself. Along with a conflict traumatizing the older brother so much that he would do all of this to prevent his brother from suffering the same way.
The video actually brought up the Itachi, and Sasuke relationship.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 proof sae is a older brother that loves his sibling? And also prove he's willing to make himself hated so rin can become the best?
BTW, The reason why he looks different in the Manga is probably that they didn't have his design set in stone just yet since it kept shifting in-out but not during the u20 arc.
I’ve been wondering why he looked different in every panel 💀💀
Hear me out, after rereading, I believe Rin will realize that he doesn’t even want to be the best striker.
Rin only becomes a striker because Sae told him to be the best after him. Everything in Rin’s story that he wants is things Sae implanted. Rin wants to become to best striker to beat Sae, Rin is in bluelock to get stronger to beat Sae. Rin is so skilled overall that labeling him a pure striker is kinda limiting. I do think Rin will play CAM on the Japan World Cup team.
I wanted this to be isagi but he declined playing midfield already.
From what I've underatood😊 sae treats rin like that so he doesn't lose his ego like sae did after going to real
it seems like it!
He might have his reasons and good motives but no way he is a good brother.
Yeah I agree. As you said he may have had the right intentions, for Rin to learn, but it was definitely not healthy.
Gotta say, even Itachi was a bad brother to Sasuke but he acknowledged it to him. Hopefully we get to see these two play together, they'd be unstoppable.
Just goes to show that ego is a double edged sword. There is no excuse for Sae to make a villian out of Rin, even though his intentions were good (the fact of laying it out to Rin that the world should be his goal not Sae himself), if we are to go with this theory.
Hope we see these two fix their relationship, cos these two put together on the field would be unstoppable.
I really hope Sae just hates rin for no reason whatsoever, cus that one panel in the u20 where rin looks so happy thinking his brother was acknowledging him and then was shut down was really funny.
I'm still sticking with Rin telling Sae that his Atsushi Nakajima haircut wasn't going to get him dragged in Spain. Spoiler alert: they dragged him
sae is probably just so dense 😭 i actually do hope the author doesn’t pull a “i had to make him hate me” panel. IMO he could have said all that stuffs back then just because he too was hurt and tired when rin said those things first. him being like that the whole u20 match was just his personality and not him still trying to make rin grow his ego (i hope)
That would be hella dark lol 😂😂 But I'm still gunning for the brothers to fix their relationship and play together, cos they'd be an unstoppable duo
Nah. In the same chapter after the u20 match, there is a panel of sae with a soft, satisfied expression on his face while he thinks about Rin looking super motivated. He doesn't hate rin, and the ppl who think he does probably don't read the manga.
Common Outlaw W and W take on a family subject between the two brothers
Now I kinda look forward to Bastard vs Paris for the Rin vs Kaiser match
finna be the best match in NEL
rin vs kaiser??
PXG has a new gen player but he hasn't been seen much so he most likely be going against kaiser rin vs isagi , shidou vs Kuni etc
Kaiser is leagues ahead :///
He's in sae's league... They're both gen 11
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What I'm hoping is that the manga touches upon Rin's flow that appears in the Blue Lock vs Japan U20 match. Sae is the only one who knows about it.
Tbh I don’t think Sae is a good or bad person. He’s more of a antihero if he’s going down the itachi route. He probably has good intentions and was trying to help rin become the best striker but in the most extreme way possible. I mean Sae basically said to rin that he doesn’t want him in his life anymore 💀. Even though I find his words inexcusable I understand where he’s coming from.
You do?
Terrible brother legit sae told Rin straight up that he’s useless, he should quit, and to not contact him again. Could’ve gone South but Rin’s resolve is very good
but the ego tho...
This is a great video honestly.
I use to joke about how codependency was a running trend on Blue lock. And from I have read it's almost as if Rin's whole personality is based on being Sae's little brother. He never really deviated from that and became heavily reliant on his older brother. Safe to assume Sae played in Spain to kind of put some distance thinking his brother would branch off on his own after all that time. Seeing Rin still the same, Sae had to free him. You gotta be cruel to be kind, though Sae didn't have to go that hard.
Have you read the light novel?
@@rinyo-qe9fmno, I didn’t even know there was one. This is all simply an assessment based off what I read
@@saesnaughtyprincess oh good analysis!
I have read the light novel.
And from what I read I came to understand two things.
First, the team in which Rin and Sae played had shit players and they simply can't handle the Itoshi's talents. They required someone to fully utilize them and as we know Sae is great a midfielder so even back then when he played as a striker he unconsciously played the role of a midfielder for them too. So I think he started realising that he was more fit to be a midfielder even before going to Spain.
Second, Rin's talent was not recognised. When Rin was younger he played on pure instinct and because Sae understood Rin's talent he knew how to give free reign to Rin.
But after Sae left there was no one who could handle him. The team started loosing every game. The blame all went to rin because acc to rin's teammates 'Rin was not as good as Sae' and they only lost because Rin could not replace Sae.
So basically they now wanted Rin to coddle them just like sae had done before. With Sae it was possible because Sae was born to be a midfielder he had a talent for that. But how can you expect the same from Rin who was a pure striker.
Under all the pressure and insecurities Rin at last conceded.
He fully changed his pure instinct play style which he had developed since he was like 6. He developed a new style so that his team could keep up with him. He stifled his talent with his own hands. This was the origin of Rin's puppeteer play style. The flow state we see today is nothing but Rin's original play style in full force.
It was also mentioned that because Rin couldn't play as a pure striker so he started loosing interest in it. But for the sake of the promise he made with Sae he still kept playing.
As a way to cope up with loosing the thrill in football he started watching horror movies.
Have you ever wondered while watching the second selection that if Rin is so good so how come he was not well known like Kira? This was the reason. Basically, despite being one of the best strikers in Japan others thought he was shit because his team always lost the matches.
@@rinyo-qe9fm huh, interesting, I figured they would have played well if they centered around him, it was odd that he was not as well know however I figured he was only added later.
It’s be cool if by the end of blue lock rin doesn’t reconcile with sae disowns him as his brother. Would make the relationship more realistic and interesting than going the whole sasuke/itachi route (which I’m kind of tired of by now)
yep. looks like they will seeing how he still called him ni-chan at the end of the match
So in anime terms, you can argue Sae isnt a bad brother.
In real life, no way. 100% terrible brother
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Ends dont justify the means but great video
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It would've been a completely different story, had Japan's football were different and they adapted to their best instead of their best adapting to them. Rin Itoshi might have been (and I do not mean this harshly) a menace surpassing Isagi/just another Isagi...
He might, just might have been better than his brother since it's 10 people working for their best as well.
I think Itachi's gonna be the route, c'mon.
can you do a video about Kurigami and the upcoming PXG match cuz ive seen some theories that the author is saving The hero for that math what is your idea on it Outlaw?
Sae: “I don’t want to be the best striker anymore, I want to be the best midfielder!”
Rin: “Ok”
*roll credits*
Im gonna keep it short so people read what i have to say. Regardless of his intentions and the consequences that doesnt make Sae a good brother. The very fact that he sets himself up to be the villain Rin's story for him to reach these heights shows a complete lack of faith which contradicts this idea that Sae's just fostering his growth. Rin may be a corny and a fanboy but Sae has no reason to cut off ties with him like he did. I do hope the author doesn't make Sae a Itachi 2.0 because outside of his plays, the only thing fun about Sae is that he seems to be toxic for the heck of it like Shidou
There have been a lot of hints he islike itachi though..
Tough love vs pure harshness, is the major difference. Sae went too far with Rin. I know he loves Rin, I know he wants Rin to succeed… but to pile on and not even acknowledge Rin when he calls you nii-San again?
Tbh I wouldn’t like if Sae went the itachi route, in a way it’s become unoriginal and it gives people a way to justify his actions
They’ll make up at some point the author obviously purposely made it like Itachi and Sasukes backstory
I think Sae is trying to push Rin out of his shadow
Sae is like itachi
@@lastzestu4767 prove it
@A slightly oversized potato who is bored He wants rin to be the best striker. He tells rin to not use him as a reason to play football. Rins realizes this when he enters the flow. The thing holding him back was himself. That's why he declared himself the egoist
W i think people dont see his true intentions
I wonder what happened to SAE in Spain
He got molested
This video was made by Shidou Ryousei
Me commenting before the video get start
From my point of view
Itoshi rin is really a edgee child and
a edgee brother so
I can't say about sae anything
Cause If talking about his life goals it's his own decisions
Could sae be a coward or much more mature person then we know despite ignoring his arrogance
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@@OutlawTruth tysm
The thing that rin doesn’t understand is that when sae went to play over seas he saw that everyone wants to be a striker just like the real world but rin is bling and want to play like a child sae sees that if he can be the no 1 midfielder and run the striker nothing can stop them in ma opinion Rin is the bad brother not sae
Wanima's >>> Itoshi's
the best brothers frfr
basically, japan just makes a bunch of great midfielders and defenders.
Sae is a bad brother. The justification is bad I get this is manga/anime, and it’s a troupe that apparently family members can only help one another through trauma which is…. Just so stupid, limiting and not believable. Yes that can happen but for as many examples, and being this is the repeated troupe in anime/manga, it speaks to low level of writing quality a lot of these mangaka have that they can’t write anything else or more compelling relationships in manga.
The sasuke example is bad bc the lengths early sasuke made do not match up to his ultimate goal. It’s clear from kishimoto he didn’t always have itachi be a good guy which explains the lengths itachi went to mentally torture sasuke that much during their first reunion. Overall it’s a bad and lazy troupe
Tuff love
Abiba
Stealing from people and coming back 4-5 years later to see that victim working harder and better doesn't make the robber a "NOT A BAD" person right? What's different in rin's scenario then?
more like stealing knowing that this person would most likely be 10x better off if you stole from them.
@@OutlawTruth I think that even if you know that somebody would be 10x better, nobody has the right to force it upon others.
Back in 1960s parents would have thought the same thing and started beating their children close fist full force.
You wouldn't say that its the right thing to do would you?
@mocerlaalacbaino I wouldn’t agree because the parents had nothing to base that off of, sae has a basis of how Japan treats ego and knows it’s more than likely that if he does this to Rin he can become successful in being a striker.
@@OutlawTruth I agree with you about this, I guess what I am confused about is if it was okay for sae to be this forceful with his brother.
@mocerlaalacbaino it’s one of those things where I think the ends justify the means, if he was just doing it to be an asshole then yea I would say it’s wrong, but since he knows that rin is going to be better of this way and can be one of the best strikers I think he is doing it for a good reason, making him not a necessarily bad brother.
Itachi : literally kills every clan member to motivate sasuke to become stronger. He also physically strangles sasuke one time and tells him he's weak.
Everyone : I LOVE HIM. SUCH A GOOD BROTHER. BEST BROTHER. SUCH A GOOD CHARACTER!
Sae : insults rin verbally one time so that rin can become stronger, a better egoist n have a better career.
Everyone : I HATE HIM. WORST BROTHER EVER. WHAT HE DID TO RIN IS SUPER UNFORGIVABLE!!!! WORST CHARACTER EVER, I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM TILL THE DAY I DIE!!!!!
Lmao the double standards. I wonder which is worse, telling ur brother he's useless one time (normal) or killing every one of his family members? (extreme)
Before u tell me "but its not the same bc one is a ninja world !!", exactly, the double standards lol.
N before u tell me sae hates rin, go read the manga properly. There r so many panels where if u have a brain u will know he doesnt actually hate rin.
Sae ok
I mean he is. Sae has been a bad brother who is cold to Rin and a national traitor since the beginning. He roasted his own country and the national team as well as Rin. In real life that is a law violation and would have ended his football career. The media in Japan doesn't tolerate any controversy, once you have one mistake your star career is over.
Sae is absolutely perfect for Rin, he forced Rin to abandon his naive "tepid" way of thinking and made Rin a cold insanely destructive force. Thats why Sae wanted to leave at half time, he was contempt seeing than Rin is reaching new heights playing for the destruction of Sae but still thinks he's tepid for continuing to think of Sae as "my precious nii chan" rather than "a rival I need to crush".
Fraud Itoshi is not a bad brother indeed.
the fraud watch is over... hes proven himself
The only brother duo bruh