🤣 young kid at real madrid, must happen to loads of players every year. We cant forget that the blue lock kids are just that,kids in the game of football. This is much bigger than them
I don’t think Sae ever failed he saw the truth. He saw it when his little brother at the age of 6 ran on the pitch and kicked the ball that Sae passed which no one else could receive. His brother is such a good and talented player and he had been pushing down his brother by calling him the best in the world. The first thing Sae did when coming off the plane was go and see his brother, he didn’t even go home he has his suitcase on him. Sae lost weight and looks tired because it is like what Ego said, Japan takes this young footballers send them away from home where they know no one, don’t speak the language and football is played so different to play football. He hasn’t seen his family in 4 almost 5 years (he turned 18 after the second selection). Even Aiku describes how playing in japan stopped his love for being a striker, isagi experienced it too. Everything is about the team you have to pass or they won’t play you (aiku flash back) and Europe is not like that they tend to be selfish players it is their job to score. It is why I think Ego has the players playing with European players. I still believe if Sae had joined Bluelock with the rest of the U20 he would have cleared them all. He is a play maker and such a talented player at only 18
what chapter did Ego said, Japan takes this young footballers send them away from home where they know no one, don’t speak the language and football is played so different ? I want to reread it .Thank you
The person that crushed sae's dream of becoming a striker is probably Leonardo Luna, the guy from the world's top 5 who was from spain, and in the real madrid team. He also talked about how good Sae is and how his passes are amazing.
Itoshi sae is not a failed egoist he just realistic he not a striker itoshi sae had never got the eye for goal Itoshi sae is trying to make Rin better off
I think sae lied about wanting to be the best striker and made it his dream since he knew Rin would follow he probably enjoys playing with Rin since he can finish his passes but wants Rin to he able to fight without him Incase something happens
I dont understand what ur trying say itoshi sae isn't a failed ego he just like reo he just doesn't have someone worthy of lending his abilities to he was trying to get rin to be a striker since they played together as striker something probably happened in spain to make sae realise he didnt have the ego of a striker so he decided to mold rin and stop him from becoming a wasted talent as he was going through success in japan
@@THEOFFCIALBLOXYLEGENDY_T that's exactly what I'm saying but little brothers always want to become their bigger brothers that's why sae "wanted" to become the best striker so Rin could follow and when they had the conversation of what would you do without me that's what made sae want to leave so Rin could make it on his own without his hel
Now I’m really curious what did this man experience in Spain and who was the one to crush his dream. I heard that people were sayin it might’ve been Kaiser
@@mycrooo6841 someone on the same level made him entirely rethink his decision? Doubtful. I think it’s just something along the lines of he didn’t have enough ego to fight back coaches and teammates who didn’t want to support him as a striker or he may just prefer midfielder. But don’t think it has anything to do with Kaiser.
@@ItsZayJ well Kaiser has shown better feats and shows more striker capabilities so I’m pretty sure if not Kaiser, then someone around Kaiser’s level crushed him
5:45 I honestly think that sae is shedding some tears here because they haven’t shown his face 😢 he just wants to motivate his brother in a twisted way so his ego doesn’t become that fragile like him.
I also like to imagine that his new approach is due to the way he was treated outside the country when we went to Spain. As a young kid he was overwhelmed by the pressure of the high level football. I can't wait for more story clues on him in the future.
I really love the backstory and their contribution to the plot with these two characters. It’s an accurate portrayal of siblings, where one goes out to the world first and he’s one of the most talented people in the world. While the other, lives in the others shadow. I’ve always liked the many differences and similarities between Rin and Sae. It’s amazing how these two have affected the people around them, and they’ve become some of my favorite characters I’ve seen in Anime/Manga. Great video by the way!
This was the dumbest plot point to me. A midfielder is more important than a striker and requires leagues more endurance, skill, and game sense. By Sae becoming a midfielder, that allows him to have far more control over the game
thats what i was thinking. something like gk would really show his ego got crushed, but even defender would be better than midfielder to show his ego was crushed.
I think the author goes for midfielder to show that his ego is crushed because it is the position most closely linked to a striker. Midfielders are often looked as Robins to the Batman strikers, so by him being a secondary playmaker, it shows he no longer has the will to make the shots himself and feels he can only help. I guess it shows he hasn’t completely given up on his offensive ability… he just doesn’t have the ego to take a stranglehold of the game anymore.
Exactly. Especially since the best player in the world and no one's close to him him right now. Jude the dude Bellingham has the Bernabeu singing god damn beetles songs. But at the time this was made, and famous, the top dogs were strikers, RL9 and the Benz are basically the top dog in this universe yeah? But in all seriousness, the best players right now, top 3 are Jude who's an attacking midfielder now, and Haaland and Mbappe and Mbappe now is also an attacking midfielder or a winger. Yeah Jude and Mbappe don't press, and are more like deeper playmaking forwards, but that's their role. Benzema and Lewandowski who are elite goalscorers were the best at the time, but the were also deep forwards especially Benzema. And don't ever forget KDB who's also top 5 easy.
I can imagine that the U-20 team would definitely contain Isagi,Rin and Barou. But it would be freaking amazing if it were to contain Bachira,Nagi,Reo,Chigiri,Kunigami and Niko as well. But if Sae was to be in the team as well then the story would be later revolved around U-20 versus the ones who crushed Sae's hopes and ego... I still wonder who crushed Sae's dreams and confidence of being the best striker. Edit:It would be dope to see who that man was.
Would be interesting if it was Noa even if he isn't most fast or has giant arsenal of skill,and that Noa defeat Sae by use his ability (that was show in neo egoist arc),or Kaiser cause Kaiser is kinda like Noa he has insane shot ability.
Can't say that I'm without bias considering my pfp but pretty sure Sae is actually a clear example of the RESULT of BLUELOCK, whether or not people will consider all of the players participating now as failures once the series culminates and one of them (I would assume Isagi) becomes the #1 Striker. He's a player who has honed both his physical and mental capabilities as well his sense of self; He plays with his own form of desperate hunger which the series continues to indicate to us is a requirement to become the best at any position on a world class level. Sae realized he didn't have the skill set required to become the best Striker but he also understood it was still possible to become the best in a different role on the pitch. Before Sae leaves for Japan he tries to gauge Rin's mindset as well as his approach to the game. At the time, he's viewing Rin's potential through a lens which hasn't yet had an opportunity to gauge what properties are required to become the best Striker on a global level. But Sae learns why Rin's approach to the game is so important after he spends time at Madrid. This is why he's so disappointed Rin doesn't understand his new point of view after returning to Japan. Sae realizes that ALL of the characteristics required to become the best Striker WERE present in Rin; Whether it's height, speed, strength, length, touch, technique, timing, you name it, Rin possessed all of the properties required to become the best. However, Sae can sense that unless something drastically changes Rin will never develop the mindset he'll require to reach his full potential. Rin isn't desperate enough to become the best prior to his confrontation with his brother. He's satisfied as long as him and Sae are at the top together. Sae knows that Rin has no chance of competing against the best players in the world without a stronger sense of self, because Sae had to reconcile with his own ego after being forced to accept the fact he simply didn't have the right mixture of physical and mental capabilities required to become the world's best as a Striker. In my opinion, almost none of the members of BLUELOCK will continue to play as Strikers for whatever teams they do end up suiting up for should the series continue long enough for us to see them play at the professional level (the Neo Egoist league does NOT count). But that information isn't privy to us as the series hasn't progressed to that point yet. It's easy to get caught up in the moment to moment stuff, but in the grand scheme of things, players such as: Raichi, Niko, Hiori, Reo or Gagamaru (just to name a handful) will likely never progress to become All-World level Strikers. Yet they're not just throw away characters, which means the purpose of the program isn't as singular as it may seem. The main goal is to produce the best Striker in Japan, which it will no doubt accomplish; But throughout that process ALL of the BLUELOCK players have been adopting the mindsets required to reach the pinnacle of whatever position they will have the proper skill sets for in the future. Remember, they were forced to relearn the game from scratch, not because they don't understand how to play it, but because some of them didn't have the proper approach to the game. As Jinpachi noted, the approach to the game Japan had cultivated to that point was fundamentally flawed in that players were expected to suppress their personalities or "ego" in favor of the team and it's "team first" philosophies. Are there other countries that have a similar approach to the game? I'm sure there are, the show is fiction after all so the creators are basing the series on information they already have. But the premise itself is still in line with reality, or at least reality as the creators understood it to be up until the point the series first launched. The structure of the Japanese Youth Organizations and the systems within them weren't nurturing the kinds of characteristics that would enable the talented players they managed to acquire to maximize their individual potentials. That much was made clear to us with characters like Aiku, check out his backstory if you need more context. I could go on but this comment is already filled to the brim with enough of my spew already. Just my two cents at the end of the day. To me the series will culminate with a victory in the World Cup which means either the series will continue for quite a long time or we'll have significant time skips in between with bits and pieces of information in between to fill in the gaps. Hopefully I'll still be enjoying BLUELOCK by the time things come to a close so I can look back on this comment and see whether I should've been allowed to cook or whether I'ma have to hold the fattest L on my way to the Shadow Realm.
The biggest nuance here is the Blue Lock wants you to believe that You Cannot become the best player if you’re not a striker. Whereas in real life, plenty of best players of all time are in fact midfielders or semi midfielders, like Messi or Maradona who are not pure goal scorers but rather a mix of scorers and creators. Players like Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Modric, or Platini are at least top 20 best players of all time, and all midfielders. Sometimes, the fans go to the stadium to witness the actions preceding the goal, rather than the goal itself. That’s why I believe Sae is not a failure at all.
Nah he isn't a failed Egoist. He is still very egotistical, I'd argue more so than when he actually left Japan. Thinking Sae is settling for being the best midfielder instead of the best striker is a massive stretch. Its not that he lost his ego and lost his goal, his aim just changed. Sae realised that he was a big fish in a small pond once leaving Japan. You say Sae gave up and left it to his brother which I think couldn't be further from the truth. If that was the case, Sae would have just returned to Japan and hung up his football boots or just settled for being a mediocre striker in Japan. That was the easy route but Sae chose to change, switch up his playstyle and readjust his dreams. I also doubt he has an Itachi relationship... Like Itachi was built up to be a villain from the beginning and was changed later on. I don't think Sae would bother using negatives to motivate Rin, I think he was genuinely disgusted by Rin binding his football to him.
Sae hasn't readjusted his dream. You don't readjust dreams. You don't settle for any less. That's what a dream is. The final end goal for your life. Itoshi Sae has forever given up on being a striker, and now relegates himself to being a midfielder.
@Drifter it is an end goal, but goal change as people do. Circumstances change and realisations happen, so you adapt to them. Sae realised that his talent for football didn't make him a very good striker when compared to the other top talents in the world but does make him a great playmaker. If Sae gave up, he would have quit football. He still dreams of being the best but now is striving to be the best midfielder in the world instead of the best striker. That is not giving up. That is making the most of what you are given. It's called being realistic.
@trog Dreams are supposed to be realistic, though... No one who dreams of winning a World Cup who doesn't think it is achievable and they can't do it. A dream is an ultimate goal Goals are attainable Sae just realised that becoming the world's best striker isn't attainable. He doesn't have the natural gifts to compete against other top strikers. Sae's ego wasn't broken. Sae is very egotistical. The fact that he refuses to play with anyone he doesn't approve of is incredibly egotistical. He's saying that "none of you deserve my passes". Also, if he gave up, then he wouldn't have the goal of being the world's best midfielder. Do you think it's easy to become the world's best midfielder? There are plenty of players with big ego's who had switched positions. Just because you found out being a striker isn't for you does not mean that your ego was broken. You thought you were the best, but the results showed that you weren't. If you continued playing like you were, then that's not egotistical. That's delusional
@@sota5815 He would play better with shidou, yes. However I would like to see Isagi actually play with someone that sees what he sees. Isagi is, quite frankly, playing completely alone and completely different game with the exception of maybe Kurona but that's also only because he is dragging Kurona along. Feels like he is playing with literal NPCs set on easy mode while he is playing football
@sota , i bet the next 2 matches of Neo egoist league are definitely for isagi's development as a striker, once this league is over isagi will definitely be on the level of Kaiser if not better.
I don't think Sae got his ego crushed. I think he just wants his brother to get the shine as a striker while Sae's using his amazing playmaking abilities to help his little brother get chances
I think your wrong about itoshi sae failing to be an egoist or losing his ego because I change his position to be a midfielder instead of a striker it was just a reality check hy realizing he is not suited for it at all and midfielder work best with his skills. Just like niko remember before he went offense and aim to be a striker but after being against isagi in the soccer match he realised he is more suited for defense and take excitement by crushing people goals in that position that doesn't mean he lost his ego he just realized that this is much more btter for him just like Aiku he realised that going offense wasn't suited for at all in the U20 vs bluelock arc. He went to being in the defense position now cause it works best for him. People being in a different position in soccer does not mean they lost their egos. Ego works differently for everyone so I can't explain what it is cause I have various opinion about it, but I definitely know that it doesn't correlates with soccer positions.
Either are possible, but the state that sae came back in is the teller for me. He didn't come back normally and like he just wanted to switch, he was clearly tired and stressed about something and the tone was so different from when he left, and from what we hear he only scored a single goal in his last game despite trying for a striker. but your argument is possible as well.
About sae and rin I don't think it's like the sasuke and itachi relationship and I hope it won't go in that route cause if it does it will not make any sense at all. Sae gave rin a reality check of what beyond the fields he plays against high schoolers their are more advance, talented, and other skilled players beyond his comprehension. Even though there dream was to be strikers together I don't think it is crushed like rin thought it was cause if sae is a midfielder he can pass to rin to score goals right?(I know this is a simple conclusion) so the dreams isn't crushed at all since they will still play together, but sae will rarely score if wants too. Rin was a in middle when that happened I think so of course he will be emotional and I think his brother didn't care about him. I mean if have a dream together with your siblings of course you will be detrimental. Rin was trying to be like sae, think like sae, and trying sae soccer moves if he just went with his own style in soccer then he will improve drastically, that's in the U20 arc when rin was sticking his tongue out sae said you not trying to copy my playstyle anymore you jnlovkbyour own ways( I don't think he said something like this I just don't want to look it up will I'm trying to type. 😅). Rin just have to realize he can't copy his brother anymore, but idk if he realized it or not. Sae is a good brother but he should communicate with rin tostraighten their relationship including rin too.
@@Bunny-blue Sae was not given a reality check. He was broken. He did not choose to switch because he wanted to. He chose to switch because he could not beat the best strikers. He lost. He wasn't unsuited to be a striker. In fact, he was phenomenal as a striker. But he was overshadowed. And he's given up on being a striker.
@@Bunny-blue And also, their dream wasn't to "play soccer together". It was to "be the best strikers" AND "play soccer together". Rin, seeing Sae suddenly give up on the dream they had been working at for years, couldn't understand. He didn't understand why Sae would give up just because there were better strikers. That turned into hate, and a desire to get back at him. To Rin, Sae giving up on being the best striker is equivalent to telling Rin to kill himself. They made a promise, and Sae broke it.
After reading and listening to this, Rin to me is like Hisoka in Food Wars basically their original motivation. Rin to Sae is Hisoka to Erina. They were okay with being 2nd best as a long as the person above them is the one they respect the most. Rin and Hisoka never had a goal beyond that, they were just okay with being second best
I think it's too soon to assume he failed. He could be like Atsumu/Kageyama where he had a change in perspective and saw the one who controls the pitch as the most dominant and important role.
Long story short, Sae is legit pulling a itachi I don't think that sae ever wanted rin to stop playing football, he just instead wanted him to play football with his heart and not just because his brother plays it It's literally an itachi-sasuke, how am I the first one that noticed this- Also when sae said "Piss off,Rin. I don't need you in my life anymore." I legit think that he was crying Istg someday we will see sae's point of view and I will be proven right
I feel like Rin and Kunigami could switch and it would work since both of them have their strengths in IQ and Physicality respectively as well as Kunigami having a great connection with all three of the players around him
@@OutlawTruthatched the entire vid bro. Sorry to have offended you, just sharing my opinion. Edit :- most of what you said, I can get by reading the manga myself. Title feels clickbaity. Not saying it's not a good vid. Just not the one I was expecting from a 24 min video out of which 13 mins is basically the retelling of the u-20 match Edit 2- sorry everything past the 7 min mark is a retelling. You have your opinions here and there for sure, but you can't tell me that this is purely a character evaluation vid
If he wanted to make a real video he would have to research for the reason why he failed, but there's not that much info either way. Sae met a crazy monster with talent and hard work, that's why he backed of from striker. That's his whole stick
@@OnePieceFanForever "that's his whole stick" i meant that to Sae. There's not enough info on why he stopped being a striker. Now that i read that again, it sounded like an attack to the utuber. My bad
For those who don't understand That women in the cage was her grandmother,when the girls grandparents get old her parents locked them up in a cage it was ritual that has been going though her family so when her parents get old he also did the ritual
i dont even think he lost his ego he grew a bigger ego, the fact that when he came to japan he shifted his interest from being the best forward to the best midfielder in the world shows and that u can see from the little interactions that he has in the series/manga thus far that hes the biggest egoist so far in the series. take the likes of ness from bastard munchen whos a midfielder and just a lackey to kaiser instead this guy sae says no one is good enough to recieve his passes which is against the mindset of what midfielders should think like
I have a good suspicion the player who broke Sae’s ego can manipulate the field like Isagi, and Rin is going to end up being a midfielder like Sae for the Isagis goal
Isn't it Luna from real Madrid? Cause I don't think having his Meta vision crushed would be enough to make Sae give up being a striker, that means Sae is lacking something he thinks Rin has. I found interesting when Sae said that Rin hasn't changed his habit of drooling with his tongue out, since during the whole Blue lock early phases we never saw that side of him, even when he went against the world top 5, so maybe he went to the middle field in hope a natural instinctive striker would take his place.
What is so hard to believe with me is that Rin became cold because of this reason plus sae wanted to be midfielder and rin was kinda childish but sae went way too far
I dont understand Sae. I dont know what happend to him, but I dont think anything could justify how he treats everyone around him, including Rin. It just feels like he couldnt handle the fact that there are way better players in the world than him and now he is making everyone else a victim to his frustration.
Rin is mad annoying for me cause of that they won the u-20 match and this dude was still pissed af he ain’t even hang out with them when they were allowed to leave
i dont remember putting "explained" in the title but i did explain the theory about his crushed ego, it was never explained in the actual manga and is something i just thought of. enjoy your day!
Doesnt kinda make sense tho cuz he could've scored multuple times in the game Blue Lock game, he may not having been doing good when he first left, you got to also realize that being the best Striker versus being the best player of in the World leading to the best player of all time is different
I don't think Sae is a failed egoist. The better the football league is the less individualism matters. When Sae joined Real Madrid the coach already would see his talents would be better suited to be a midfielder. Sae would have to fit in the system or else he would be droppedfrom the team. For example Messi and Ronaldo are good individual players, but even they would have to play in a tactic system that suited the team. That's what separates the greatest squads in football. A football system the entire team gets behind, not just the striker
I wonder about videos like this. I’m not mad or anything. But this whole video is just summarizing every panel in a chapter. Is this legal lmao. It’s not even like a chapter summary it’s just panel by panel with pictures too.
I feel like when sae left rin, rin couldn’t have gotten sae to be a striker again anyway, as even if he did win, sae probably would’ve said something like “see, you’re better than me now. You can easily surpass me, I have no need to be a striker.” Or something else. So really, to be honest sae wouldn’t have been a striker anyway
Lost his ego cmon bruh if you've read blue lock manga or even watched anime it was in starting episodes that how soccer was started from 0 to 1 at starting everyone one wanted others to play for himself instead of coordinating or playing according to plan this showed how players get a broad perspective and choose their specific areas like gagamaru is a goalie now is perfect example it may be like sae is like itachi or for him to look like a villain of that arc they've showed him like that it's just that he got a broad perspective about his play area as he is very pinpoint calculative and playmaker
uh, sae wanted to be the best striker w rin being the second. not the best midfielder that was his new goal cuz he wasn't an egoist, and this broke the promise with rin, and rin hates sae now cuz of that
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It’s still so hard to believe that sae got his ego crushed but yet is still so talented
🤣 young kid at real madrid, must happen to loads of players every year. We cant forget that the blue lock kids are just that,kids in the game of football. This is much bigger than them
@@sanietj7626 but blue lock has proven themselves to be at the very least national level
@@marlom7882 blue lock has proven themselves to be u-20 low nationals level. They arent even close to mid tier professionals.
@@marlom7882 true but blue lock didn’t exist when sae was getting his ego crushed in Spain lol
@@williamm.653 good point
I don’t think Sae ever failed he saw the truth. He saw it when his little brother at the age of 6 ran on the pitch and kicked the ball that Sae passed which no one else could receive. His brother is such a good and talented player and he had been pushing down his brother by calling him the best in the world. The first thing Sae did when coming off the plane was go and see his brother, he didn’t even go home he has his suitcase on him.
Sae lost weight and looks tired because it is like what Ego said, Japan takes this young footballers send them away from home where they know no one, don’t speak the language and football is played so different to play football. He hasn’t seen his family in 4 almost 5 years (he turned 18 after the second selection). Even Aiku describes how playing in japan stopped his love for being a striker, isagi experienced it too. Everything is about the team you have to pass or they won’t play you (aiku flash back) and Europe is not like that they tend to be selfish players it is their job to score. It is why I think Ego has the players playing with European players. I still believe if Sae had joined Bluelock with the rest of the U20 he would have cleared them all. He is a play maker and such a talented player at only 18
I think its FIFA's corruptness (payed refs and coaches, scripted games, Good players with big ego [maybe sae] getting benched)
@@Human_traain Nah Sae was scoring a hattrick in the novels
what chapter did Ego said, Japan takes this young footballers send them away from home where they know no one, don’t speak the language and football is played so different ? I want to reread it .Thank you
@@mylingnovels8000 the first few chapters
@@Human_traain I reread the first chapters and I can't find it ...
The person that crushed sae's dream of becoming a striker is probably Leonardo Luna, the guy from the world's top 5 who was from spain, and in the real madrid team. He also talked about how good Sae is and how his passes are amazing.
Probably Kaiser after the new chapter
Good point
@@adorablechrysalis7386How
Makes sense
@@adorablechrysalis7386low iq kaiser meat rider:
Itoshi sae is not a failed egoist he just realistic he not a striker itoshi sae had never got the eye for goal
Itoshi sae is trying to make Rin better off
This guy is dumb man , most ridiculous title I have seen in awhile loool
I think sae lied about wanting to be the best striker and made it his dream since he knew Rin would follow he probably enjoys playing with Rin since he can finish his passes but wants Rin to he able to fight without him Incase something happens
I dont understand what ur trying say itoshi sae isn't a failed ego he just like reo he just doesn't have someone worthy of lending his abilities to he was trying to get rin to be a striker since they played together as striker something probably happened in spain to make sae realise he didnt have the ego of a striker so he decided to mold rin and stop him from becoming a wasted talent as he was going through success in japan
@@THEOFFCIALBLOXYLEGENDY_T that's exactly what I'm saying but little brothers always want to become their bigger brothers that's why sae "wanted" to become the best striker so Rin could follow and when they had the conversation of what would you do without me that's what made sae want to leave so Rin could make it on his own without his hel
lol "better off", here we go again with the Sasuke x Itachi dilemma.
Now I’m really curious what did this man experience in Spain and who was the one to crush his dream. I heard that people were sayin it might’ve been Kaiser
He’s one the 11 along Kaiser so I doubt it. Possible it’s a coach or the team iced him out as an outsider.
@@ItsZayJ what makes you think it cannot be someone form gen 11, kaiser is striker in world gen 11 and sae is midfielder
@@mycrooo6841 someone on the same level made him entirely rethink his decision? Doubtful. I think it’s just something along the lines of he didn’t have enough ego to fight back coaches and teammates who didn’t want to support him as a striker or he may just prefer midfielder. But don’t think it has anything to do with Kaiser.
Probably one of the World's Five, and definitely the one from Spain
@@ItsZayJ well Kaiser has shown better feats and shows more striker capabilities so I’m pretty sure if not Kaiser, then someone around Kaiser’s level crushed him
5:45 I honestly think that sae is shedding some tears here because they haven’t shown his face 😢 he just wants to motivate his brother in a twisted way so his ego doesn’t become that fragile like him.
I also like to imagine that his new approach is due to the way he was treated outside the country when we went to Spain. As a young kid he was overwhelmed by the pressure of the high level football.
I can't wait for more story clues on him in the future.
Ikr, it's exactly the same scenario as the uchiha brothers-
Wait what chapter was that? The scene
You mean he gave him the Sasuke/Itachi treatment?
I really love the backstory and their contribution to the plot with these two characters. It’s an accurate portrayal of siblings, where one goes out to the world first and he’s one of the most talented people in the world. While the other, lives in the others shadow. I’ve always liked the many differences and similarities between Rin and Sae. It’s amazing how these two have affected the people around them, and they’ve become some of my favorite characters I’ve seen in Anime/Manga.
Great video by the way!
This was the dumbest plot point to me. A midfielder is more important than a striker and requires leagues more endurance, skill, and game sense. By Sae becoming a midfielder, that allows him to have far more control over the game
thats what i was thinking. something like gk would really show his ego got crushed, but even defender would be better than midfielder to show his ego was crushed.
Plus midfielders generally are more superior players overall
I think the author goes for midfielder to show that his ego is crushed because it is the position most closely linked to a striker. Midfielders are often looked as Robins to the Batman strikers, so by him being a secondary playmaker, it shows he no longer has the will to make the shots himself and feels he can only help.
I guess it shows he hasn’t completely given up on his offensive ability… he just doesn’t have the ego to take a stranglehold of the game anymore.
@@peamut547perfect analysis
Exactly. Especially since the best player in the world and no one's close to him him right now. Jude the dude Bellingham has the Bernabeu singing god damn beetles songs. But at the time this was made, and famous, the top dogs were strikers, RL9 and the Benz are basically the top dog in this universe yeah?
But in all seriousness, the best players right now, top 3 are Jude who's an attacking midfielder now, and Haaland and Mbappe and Mbappe now is also an attacking midfielder or a winger. Yeah Jude and Mbappe don't press, and are more like deeper playmaking forwards, but that's their role. Benzema and Lewandowski who are elite goalscorers were the best at the time, but the were also deep forwards especially Benzema. And don't ever forget KDB who's also top 5 easy.
I can imagine that the U-20 team would definitely contain Isagi,Rin and Barou.
But it would be freaking amazing if it were to contain Bachira,Nagi,Reo,Chigiri,Kunigami and Niko as well.
But if Sae was to be in the team as well then the story would be later revolved around U-20 versus the ones who crushed Sae's hopes and ego...
I still wonder who crushed Sae's dreams and confidence of being the best striker.
Edit:It would be dope to see who that man was.
I read the manga too :)
Would be interesting if it was Noa even if he isn't most fast or has giant arsenal of skill,and that Noa defeat Sae by use his ability (that was show in neo egoist arc),or Kaiser cause Kaiser is kinda like Noa he has insane shot ability.
@@MrWowtrash Nice for you...?
@@eZeero for us yes
@@MrWowtrash Ok XD
I wonder if his ego will get reignited and we'll see his beautiful destroying of everything with a smirk and different energy 😍
Can't say that I'm without bias considering my pfp but pretty sure Sae is actually a clear example of the RESULT of BLUELOCK, whether or not people will consider all of the players participating now as failures once the series culminates and one of them (I would assume Isagi) becomes the #1 Striker. He's a player who has honed both his physical and mental capabilities as well his sense of self; He plays with his own form of desperate hunger which the series continues to indicate to us is a requirement to become the best at any position on a world class level.
Sae realized he didn't have the skill set required to become the best Striker but he also understood it was still possible to become the best in a different role on the pitch. Before Sae leaves for Japan he tries to gauge Rin's mindset as well as his approach to the game. At the time, he's viewing Rin's potential through a lens which hasn't yet had an opportunity to gauge what properties are required to become the best Striker on a global level. But Sae learns why Rin's approach to the game is so important after he spends time at Madrid. This is why he's so disappointed Rin doesn't understand his new point of view after returning to Japan. Sae realizes that ALL of the characteristics required to become the best Striker WERE present in Rin; Whether it's height, speed, strength, length, touch, technique, timing, you name it, Rin possessed all of the properties required to become the best. However, Sae can sense that unless something drastically changes Rin will never develop the mindset he'll require to reach his full potential. Rin isn't desperate enough to become the best prior to his confrontation with his brother. He's satisfied as long as him and Sae are at the top together. Sae knows that Rin has no chance of competing against the best players in the world without a stronger sense of self, because Sae had to reconcile with his own ego after being forced to accept the fact he simply didn't have the right mixture of physical and mental capabilities required to become the world's best as a Striker.
In my opinion, almost none of the members of BLUELOCK will continue to play as Strikers for whatever teams they do end up suiting up for should the series continue long enough for us to see them play at the professional level (the Neo Egoist league does NOT count). But that information isn't privy to us as the series hasn't progressed to that point yet. It's easy to get caught up in the moment to moment stuff, but in the grand scheme of things, players such as: Raichi, Niko, Hiori, Reo or Gagamaru (just to name a handful) will likely never progress to become All-World level Strikers. Yet they're not just throw away characters, which means the purpose of the program isn't as singular as it may seem. The main goal is to produce the best Striker in Japan, which it will no doubt accomplish; But throughout that process ALL of the BLUELOCK players have been adopting the mindsets required to reach the pinnacle of whatever position they will have the proper skill sets for in the future. Remember, they were forced to relearn the game from scratch, not because they don't understand how to play it, but because some of them didn't have the proper approach to the game. As Jinpachi noted, the approach to the game Japan had cultivated to that point was fundamentally flawed in that players were expected to suppress their personalities or "ego" in favor of the team and it's "team first" philosophies.
Are there other countries that have a similar approach to the game? I'm sure there are, the show is fiction after all so the creators are basing the series on information they already have. But the premise itself is still in line with reality, or at least reality as the creators understood it to be up until the point the series first launched. The structure of the Japanese Youth Organizations and the systems within them weren't nurturing the kinds of characteristics that would enable the talented players they managed to acquire to maximize their individual potentials. That much was made clear to us with characters like Aiku, check out his backstory if you need more context.
I could go on but this comment is already filled to the brim with enough of my spew already. Just my two cents at the end of the day. To me the series will culminate with a victory in the World Cup which means either the series will continue for quite a long time or we'll have significant time skips in between with bits and pieces of information in between to fill in the gaps. Hopefully I'll still be enjoying BLUELOCK by the time things come to a close so I can look back on this comment and see whether I should've been allowed to cook or whether I'ma have to hold the fattest L on my way to the Shadow Realm.
THIS AINT 2 CENTS BRO THIS IS LIKE A MILLION
The biggest nuance here is the Blue Lock wants you to believe that You Cannot become the best player if you’re not a striker. Whereas in real life, plenty of best players of all time are in fact midfielders or semi midfielders, like Messi or Maradona who are not pure goal scorers but rather a mix of scorers and creators. Players like Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Modric, or Platini are at least top 20 best players of all time, and all midfielders.
Sometimes, the fans go to the stadium to witness the actions preceding the goal, rather than the goal itself. That’s why I believe Sae is not a failure at all.
Blue lock's entire objective to create the best striker in the world though
Nah he isn't a failed Egoist. He is still very egotistical, I'd argue more so than when he actually left Japan.
Thinking Sae is settling for being the best midfielder instead of the best striker is a massive stretch. Its not that he lost his ego and lost his goal, his aim just changed.
Sae realised that he was a big fish in a small pond once leaving Japan.
You say Sae gave up and left it to his brother which I think couldn't be further from the truth. If that was the case, Sae would have just returned to Japan and hung up his football boots or just settled for being a mediocre striker in Japan. That was the easy route but Sae chose to change, switch up his playstyle and readjust his dreams.
I also doubt he has an Itachi relationship...
Like Itachi was built up to be a villain from the beginning and was changed later on.
I don't think Sae would bother using negatives to motivate Rin, I think he was genuinely disgusted by Rin binding his football to him.
Sae hasn't readjusted his dream. You don't readjust dreams. You don't settle for any less. That's what a dream is. The final end goal for your life. Itoshi Sae has forever given up on being a striker, and now relegates himself to being a midfielder.
@Drifter it is an end goal, but goal change as people do.
Circumstances change and realisations happen, so you adapt to them. Sae realised that his talent for football didn't make him a very good striker when compared to the other top talents in the world but does make him a great playmaker.
If Sae gave up, he would have quit football. He still dreams of being the best but now is striving to be the best midfielder in the world instead of the best striker. That is not giving up. That is making the most of what you are given. It's called being realistic.
@@colonelcider8292 Dreams aren’t realistic, it’s what makes them dream in the first place. Sae has already given up and his ego is broken.
@trog Dreams are supposed to be realistic, though...
No one who dreams of winning a World Cup who doesn't think it is achievable and they can't do it.
A dream is an ultimate goal
Goals are attainable
Sae just realised that becoming the world's best striker isn't attainable. He doesn't have the natural gifts to compete against other top strikers.
Sae's ego wasn't broken.
Sae is very egotistical. The fact that he refuses to play with anyone he doesn't approve of is incredibly egotistical. He's saying that "none of you deserve my passes".
Also, if he gave up, then he wouldn't have the goal of being the world's best midfielder. Do you think it's easy to become the world's best midfielder? There are plenty of players with big ego's who had switched positions.
Just because you found out being a striker isn't for you does not mean that your ego was broken.
You thought you were the best, but the results showed that you weren't. If you continued playing like you were, then that's not egotistical. That's delusional
@@Hivatel Its not that deep tf ur thinking like rin. Taking it way to deep
Not something I have seen anyone talk about but I really want to see Sae and Isagi play together on a match
i mean isagi and sae are both playmakers so i dont think itd be much
@@sota5815 He would play better with shidou, yes. However I would like to see Isagi actually play with someone that sees what he sees. Isagi is, quite frankly, playing completely alone and completely different game with the exception of maybe Kurona but that's also only because he is dragging Kurona along. Feels like he is playing with literal NPCs set on easy mode while he is playing football
@@optidalfprime3904 well he is playing with kaiser who can see what he sees plus he might play against meta vision in the next game
@sota , i bet the next 2 matches of Neo egoist league are definitely for isagi's development as a striker, once this league is over isagi will definitely be on the level of Kaiser if not better.
@@StarBrlightIf Kaiser helped then it's different.
I don't think Sae got his ego crushed. I think he just wants his brother to get the shine as a striker while Sae's using his amazing playmaking abilities to help his little brother get chances
I honestly believe that we'll get to see more of niko's awakening during the vs ubers arc. man's definitely one of my favs in blue lock
I think your wrong about itoshi sae failing to be an egoist or losing his ego because I change his position to be a midfielder instead of a striker it was just a reality check hy realizing he is not suited for it at all and midfielder work best with his skills. Just like niko remember before he went offense and aim to be a striker but after being against isagi in the soccer match he realised he is more suited for defense and take excitement by crushing people goals in that position that doesn't mean he lost his ego he just realized that this is much more btter for him just like Aiku he realised that going offense wasn't suited for at all in the U20 vs bluelock arc. He went to being in the defense position now cause it works best for him. People being in a different position in soccer does not mean they lost their egos. Ego works differently for everyone so I can't explain what it is cause I have various opinion about it, but I definitely know that it doesn't correlates with soccer positions.
Either are possible, but the state that sae came back in is the teller for me. He didn't come back normally and like he just wanted to switch, he was clearly tired and stressed about something and the tone was so different from when he left, and from what we hear he only scored a single goal in his last game despite trying for a striker. but your argument is possible as well.
About sae and rin I don't think it's like the sasuke and itachi relationship and I hope it won't go in that route cause if it does it will not make any sense at all. Sae gave rin a reality check of what beyond the fields he plays against high schoolers their are more advance, talented, and other skilled players beyond his comprehension. Even though there dream was to be strikers together I don't think it is crushed like rin thought it was cause if sae is a midfielder he can pass to rin to score goals right?(I know this is a simple conclusion) so the dreams isn't crushed at all since they will still play together, but sae will rarely score if wants too. Rin was a in middle when that happened I think so of course he will be emotional and I think his brother didn't care about him. I mean if have a dream together with your siblings of course you will be detrimental. Rin was trying to be like sae, think like sae, and trying sae soccer moves if he just went with his own style in soccer then he will improve drastically, that's in the U20 arc when rin was sticking his tongue out sae said you not trying to copy my playstyle anymore you jnlovkbyour own ways( I don't think he said something like this I just don't want to look it up will I'm trying to type. 😅). Rin just have to realize he can't copy his brother anymore, but idk if he realized it or not. Sae is a good brother but he should communicate with rin tostraighten their relationship including rin too.
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@@Bunny-blue Sae was not given a reality check. He was broken. He did not choose to switch because he wanted to. He chose to switch because he could not beat the best strikers. He lost. He wasn't unsuited to be a striker. In fact, he was phenomenal as a striker. But he was overshadowed. And he's given up on being a striker.
@@Bunny-blue And also, their dream wasn't to "play soccer together". It was to "be the best strikers" AND "play soccer together". Rin, seeing Sae suddenly give up on the dream they had been working at for years, couldn't understand. He didn't understand why Sae would give up just because there were better strikers. That turned into hate, and a desire to get back at him. To Rin, Sae giving up on being the best striker is equivalent to telling Rin to kill himself. They made a promise, and Sae broke it.
After reading and listening to this, Rin to me is like Hisoka in Food Wars basically their original motivation. Rin to Sae is Hisoka to Erina. They were okay with being 2nd best as a long as the person above them is the one they respect the most. Rin and Hisoka never had a goal beyond that, they were just okay with being second best
Bro who the hell is hisoka
@Iego he meant Hisako Arato. Erina's right hand woman
Yeah I love how hisoka and gon cooks in food wars shit is crazy
It’s crazy all these big defensive plays were made by guys all on the Ubers their defense is really built different🤯 game bouta be crazy
I think it's too soon to assume he failed. He could be like Atsumu/Kageyama where he had a change in perspective and saw the one who controls the pitch as the most dominant and important role.
Itoshi sae the itachi of blue lock
An absolute masterpiece of a video
Really appreciate it. Consider subscribing if you haven't already!
@@OutlawTruth i definitely had to keep up the amazing work ill be watching
Long story short, Sae is legit pulling a itachi
I don't think that sae ever wanted rin to stop playing football, he just instead wanted him to play football with his heart and not just because his brother plays it
It's literally an itachi-sasuke, how am I the first one that noticed this-
Also when sae said "Piss off,Rin. I don't need you in my life anymore." I legit think that he was crying
Istg someday we will see sae's point of view and I will be proven right
I feel like Rin and Kunigami could switch and it would work since both of them have their strengths in IQ and Physicality respectively as well as Kunigami having a great connection with all three of the players around him
Itachi and sasuke of football 💀💀
Kinda thought that this would be an evaluation of Sae's character rather than a retelling of the entire u-20 match, ngl
Bro skipped to the U-20 part and watched from there. There are other portions of the video.
@@OutlawTruthatched the entire vid bro. Sorry to have offended you, just sharing my opinion.
Edit :- most of what you said, I can get by reading the manga myself. Title feels clickbaity. Not saying it's not a good vid. Just not the one I was expecting from a 24 min video out of which 13 mins is basically the retelling of the u-20 match
Edit 2- sorry everything past the 7 min mark is a retelling. You have your opinions here and there for sure, but you can't tell me that this is purely a character evaluation vid
If he wanted to make a real video he would have to research for the reason why he failed, but there's not that much info either way. Sae met a crazy monster with talent and hard work, that's why he backed of from striker. That's his whole stick
@@nerfedmann aye chill bro he did make a video which takes effort let's not be toxic
@@OnePieceFanForever "that's his whole stick" i meant that to Sae. There's not enough info on why he stopped being a striker.
Now that i read that again, it sounded like an attack to the utuber. My bad
His ego was probably crushed by Luna
For those who don't understand
That women in the cage was her grandmother,when the girls grandparents get old her parents locked them up in a cage it was ritual that has been going though her family so when her parents get old he also did the ritual
what is blood waffling about🔥🔥
Tf are u saying nigga who's grandmother
Bro what?
Is bro on the wrong video
what are you watching ? That sounds interesting ?
I think Isagi will be able to reawaken Sae's striker ego in the future. Just cuz its blue lock, even Aiku awakened his half striker ego.
what he said no forward can receive his passes.
Ryuusei: hold my beer i will devour you prick
I'm really getting Itachi - Sasuke vibes from this brotherly interaction
Lil bro just retold the entire story without adding anything 💀
Did indeed add things, try watching again!
And you clearly lack listening skills 🤡
Did you even watch the video mate 😂
@@OutlawTruthDon't listen to a girl anime profile bro😂
Blue Lockers best motivation: trauma
Who else believes Sae itoshi is better than kaiser?
Maybe a video topic in the future 😳
Sae is the better player. Kaiser is the better scorer.
@IFRIMAN Isagi aint really allat tho he has his moments but so far he's very inconsistent
not really they don't play the same position, it's like saying Reo is better than Nagi even tho they don't play alike.
@@uchiwamadara4614 I get what you're saying but Nagi is objectively better than Reo
i dont even think he lost his ego he grew a bigger ego, the fact that when he came to japan he shifted his interest from being the best forward to the best midfielder in the world shows and that u can see from the little interactions that he has in the series/manga thus far that hes the biggest egoist so far in the series. take the likes of ness from bastard munchen whos a midfielder and just a lackey to kaiser instead this guy sae says no one is good enough to recieve his passes which is against the mindset of what midfielders should think like
I have a good suspicion the player who broke Sae’s ego can manipulate the field like Isagi, and Rin is going to end up being a midfielder like Sae for the Isagis goal
Isn't it Luna from real Madrid? Cause I don't think having his Meta vision crushed would be enough to make Sae give up being a striker, that means Sae is lacking something he thinks Rin has.
I found interesting when Sae said that Rin hasn't changed his habit of drooling with his tongue out, since during the whole Blue lock early phases we never saw that side of him, even when he went against the world top 5, so maybe he went to the middle field in hope a natural instinctive striker would take his place.
@@glcsander probably not Luna, they have an age gap of 9 years so they've never been on the real youth team at the same time
The way he played with Ryusei is the way he should had played with Rin
thanks for the recap for those who cant read
Good work!🙌
Thanks so much!
Looking forward to the anime adaption
Background music?
What is so hard to believe with me is that Rin became cold because of this reason plus sae wanted to be midfielder and rin was kinda childish but sae went way too far
i think sae will play in the sub 20 and will get his ego back :)
BRO UR RIGHT ABOUT THAT ITACHI PART. BUT PEOPLE DONT LISTEN TO ME >:)
I dont understand Sae. I dont know what happend to him, but I dont think anything could justify how he treats everyone around him, including Rin.
It just feels like he couldnt handle the fact that there are way better players in the world than him and now he is making everyone else a victim to his frustration.
Rin is mad annoying for me cause of that they won the u-20 match and this dude was still pissed af he ain’t even hang out with them when they were allowed to leave
I am pretty sure leonardo luna crushed his ego by showing him diffrence in skill
If you look at Rin's backstory, Sae was always a jerk. Rin was just an exception until he wasn't.
Sae is itachi confirmed new favorite blue lock character unlocked 😂
"and while isagi was getting swallowed up" 💀💀
Isagi would definitely face against Sae in Neo Egoist if they beat PXG.
They won't the pxg team is stacked with shidou zanetsu itoshi rin etc
5:44 bro could of entered his villain arc
my guy litteraly was describing how the u 20 match went
Itoshi lowkey underrated
Which one💀
Bro😂@@Pant10
If sae's ego got crushed by somebody we have seen it's definetly either kaiser or leonardo luna
My theory is a striker didn’t crush his ego to make him switch roles but a midfielder did
I love when youtube titles give spoilers to anime-only viewers
It's only really a spoiler if you watch the video, the title and the video is just a dissection and theory on my part. Nothing is confirmed about it.
bro just read me the manga, he didn’t explain nun 😂
i dont remember putting "explained" in the title but i did explain the theory about his crushed ego, it was never explained in the actual manga and is something i just thought of. enjoy your day!
Who could possibly be more amazing the sae that would make him not want to be the world's best striker
If he joined Blue lock the story would be different 🥶
He was probably crushed by Kaiser after the new chapter
Doesnt kinda make sense tho cuz he could've scored multuple times in the game Blue Lock game, he may not having been doing good when he first left, you got to also realize that being the best Striker versus being the best player of in the World leading to the best player of all time is different
Been revengeful is not the same as having egotism
Who said that?
@@Julian_Loki Me because revenge against one person cant beat egotism been above all else!!
@@TruthOfZ0 What??
@@Julian_Loki Its me the one who said that xD
@@TruthOfZ0 Ohh alright.
Whats wrong with being a midfielder
4:00-4:05 you can tell Rin words did touch Sae for but a moment tho.
I mean ts happens every single day irl so it’s not too hard to believe imo😭
someone explain to me why Sae praised Isagi like he did? I still don’t get what he sees in Isagi.
He sees the power that he creates from his ego in himself and other players like Rin.
That MC type stuff
1. Because Isagi is "him" and 2. Because he wants Rin to feel some type of way to increase his ego
On what app or software do you use to edit your TH-cam videos??
Inshot
Sae is using the itachi method
Itachi still the better brother 🤭
I have not seen a single video on yt where sae's name has been pronounced correctly 💀
because no one cares
@Outlaw Truth just like how no one cares about your channel, mr outlar toth. Have a good day!
Great video. Can you do Barou or Aiku next?
barou's definitely on the list, i'll see what i can do with aiku as well.
@@OutlawTruth niiiicccceeeeeee!!!
His ego doesn’t crushed he is a midfielder
I want to play like him
I don't think Sae is a failed egoist. The better the football league is the less individualism matters. When Sae joined Real Madrid the coach already would see his talents would be better suited to be a midfielder. Sae would have to fit in the system or else he would be droppedfrom the team. For example Messi and Ronaldo are good individual players, but even they would have to play in a tactic system that suited the team. That's what separates the greatest squads in football. A football system the entire team gets behind, not just the striker
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i cant bro, the way you say sae makes me laugh so bad
Womp womp
Do a vid on be blues soccer manga pls
I wonder about videos like this. I’m not mad or anything. But this whole video is just summarizing every panel in a chapter. Is this legal lmao. It’s not even like a chapter summary it’s just panel by panel with pictures too.
Mf is still a beast without even trying
Luna humbled him way too much 😂
I feel like when sae left rin, rin couldn’t have gotten sae to be a striker again anyway, as even if he did win, sae probably would’ve said something like “see, you’re better than me now. You can easily surpass me, I have no need to be a striker.” Or something else. So really, to be honest sae wouldn’t have been a striker anyway
Lost his ego cmon bruh if you've read blue lock manga or even watched anime it was in starting episodes that how soccer was started from 0 to 1 at starting everyone one wanted others to play for himself instead of coordinating or playing according to plan this showed how players get a broad perspective and choose their specific areas like gagamaru is a goalie now is perfect example it may be like sae is like itachi or for him to look like a villain of that arc they've showed him like that it's just that he got a broad perspective about his play area as he is very pinpoint calculative and playmaker
banger vid
Common Truth W
indeed indeed
He Failed as a Brother to when luna changed Sae in real madrid💀
Rin is just isagi, but better
Sae is just Hiori, but better 😂
Hiori stocks thru the roof
could niko technically have meta vision?
Maybe now, but wouldn't venture to say he did beforehand. Metavision is supposed to be the key to breaking to further heights like isagi does.
He might showcase it this current match however I doubt he'll ever be able to use it to it's full potential
Bro got humbled by leonardo luna
so, tthe video is you reading the manga?
I think he saw Messi and Ronaldo 😂 and decided f*ck let's become a midfielder.
Messi isn’t a striker 😮
1:26 why does sae look like that
early designs were iffy
Wait anri teieri = theirry henry 🧐🤔
yep lol
1:22 thats not sae
It is indeed sae, chapter 4 I believe
@@OutlawTruth that's. Sway
I feel like sae did excatly what itachi did too sasuke make him hate him so he gets stronger and one day comes for him
18:24 shidou becomes zlatan .it truely is the zlatan bicycle kick vs england
should probably put a spoiler warning 🤷♂
What if Sae’s ego wasn’t fragile ?
Luna destroyed him💀🤣
U got a discord
It's in the description but I don't have a server
uh, sae wanted to be the best striker w rin being the second. not the best midfielder that was his new goal cuz he wasn't an egoist, and this broke the promise with rin, and rin hates sae now cuz of that
I said this in the video
How's he "blue lock's" failed egoist?
He isn't even in the blue lock program 😭
He was already a professional when the BL began
You’ll never guess the name of the manga
Dude was from being a nice and wholesome brother into a cringey egoist