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Been hiding my gay family from Gurdwara for 7 years. My partner had an arranged marriage to a woman, got divorced and then we met. He, his daughter, and I have been a happy family and his ex wife's family has been very supportive, but, his side has been harder. I miss the Gurdwara but after I was outed it was too heartbreaking to see kindness repossessed by anger. I have been hiding from all my Punjabi friends since. 4 days ago I lost my Kara, I hadn't taken it off except if absolutely necessary and I thought it was in my pocket. Now I feel naked without it and now thinking about Gurdwara and my Sikh identity and I feel suddenly homesick. I did not know anyone was talking about this and I've been hiding from it and here you are speaking openly. You don't know depth of gratitude I have. Thank you.
Kanjar
Veer Guru Sahib speak to soul, at the end of it all we are linking back to the genderless/formless/birthless truthful Waheguru. Don't let anything get in way of you being a Sikh first.
exactly being sikh is your relationship from within yourself and the light of god , in sikh u cant judge or hate others or the world .... u stay connected with the light and shine of yourself and onkar ... thats all , its clear like water is .... the truth and pure words .... gay , black , white , canadian or from other places , in a class or not in one , there is nothing but being a human , :-) , saat sri akal from montreal canada ,
You lost your kaacha as well.
@@bigzadan6319 Your God is embarrassed at you
Now Santa and banta can marry each other !!! 🔥🔥🔥
😂😂😂
As a conservative, US born citizen, I totally support this community! I am a straight man with a wife and kids. I want the same freedoms for the LGBTQ+ community as I have. All I care about is if you are a good person with a pure soul. That's it! Our country is too divided by what the media is reporting. Conservatives and liberals can come together if we just listen to one another instead of the propaganda.
@@BenDover84932pathetic
bruh really . this world is doomed
Sikhi is about service to humanity and truthful living. In Sikhi it doesn’t matter what your gender identity and sexuality are; it’s people with the disgusting opinions and lack of being able to accept.
Being 2SLGBTQ+ isn’t about lust. If you view the facts a individual is more likely to have sex before marriage if they are straight rather than 2SLGBTQ+. I know you aren’t trying to offend anyone although saying stuff like that without educating yourself is offensive.
What about people taking hormone suppressors or other things as to change genders. Sikhism states not to alter one's natural body. What would you say to this?
@@kirtan_singh okay so your argument is about not altering your natural body because religion encourages against it. Their bodies are still natural it’s classified as a medication. If you have such an issue with such minor body changes go tell people to stop drinking the most common drugs coffee and tea, tell people to stop removing hair, tell people to stop consuming meat. I’ll tell you why your not doing that because society accepts and normalizes those actions that why you don’t stand against them. These people are being discriminated against everyday if you are Sikh you would stand up for them not stand against them because you fear society’s thoughts of you. You’re one of many scared sheep and feel safe in the herd ;look inside yourself find some humanity and courage. God bless you.
@@sukhk6452 woah buddy, I am just asking a question for a discussion. I had a conversation with friends the other night about this and after that I came to this video for others opinions. I was defending the LGBT+community. I was asking you this question to see a response to if someone questions it. I personally do tell Sikhs to not cut their hair and take drugs etc. So in what perspective of the Sikh religion in terms of hard support could be used to defend hormone altering drugs etc.? I know there are shabads which state not to eat meat etc. So what would be the equivalent that could defend taking the previously stated altering drugs etc.?
Also just one final time. I am not asking these questions with malicious intentions but intrigue to see how people would defend and support their views or answer questions. I personally do not 'feat society' as you mentioned nor do I like bring called a scared sheep by you. Please let us just have a discussion
But why is there protests when a sikh girl marries a black man in a gudwara
Proud of the folks in this video for finding the courage to live their lives as their true selves while maintaining their Sikh culture. Can’t imagine how difficult it must have been especially when I’m reading some of the holier than thou jackasses in the comments section judging them. Please don’t pretend to know exactly what the Gurus said and thought and then proceed to use it to justify your own prejudices.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 YASSSSS KING!!!
Read Gurbani Sikhi and Gay does not match
Typical shaming tactics while understanding nothing of Sikhi or queerness.
if they’re gay, they’re gay. but they cannot get married in a gurdwara. an anand karaj is between man and woman :)
Why.. they are humans ryt??
@@seeratsandhu3636 okay and? it’s man and woman that’s it
@@kalgidhardifauj and humans ???
Anand karaj is between souls marriage is between souls not Genders. stop listening to sgpc rehat marayada.
@@Vangaurd_tiger yess
I love how patient the interviewer is and how she is letting everyone share their opinions instead of just trying to impress her pov on everyone. Also, lovely set of people.
You have a Singh and a Kaur,
Wtf is supposed to be a “they them”?
@@jasmeetkaur549
So traditional Sikhs hundreds of years ago who believed in 2 genders were not sikh either then.
My grandparents are not sikh because they dont understand (they/them) or infinite genders.
Fucking hell, look at reality.
Majority of Sikhs don’t believe in this.
Only the woke minority of Sikhs who live in the west do.
@@chingghishan5707 woke? Your fucking kidding me. The gurus themselves didn't know about the religion then I guess.
@@jasmeetkaur549 In Sikhi it says only about two genders, male and female thats it.
@@gurugreat5663 ah so sorry i was just in the moment, you are right shouldn't have said it, just made me upset
@@gurugreat5663 are there English translations of the Granth Sahib?
I feel extremely connected to Sikhism but I only know English and need to learn more about the religion
Sikhi is about losing your desires and attachments through meditation on Naam, and realization of the true self the formless soul.
Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh
Sikhi is also about living the life of the householder. Marriage, work, children. Sikhi stands for equality. Th life of the householder is for all couples - not just straight couples.
@@ekongkaarkaurkhalsa9617Yes I agree, all of the above said supports our spiritual journey, but Anand Kaaraj is only for a man and woman.
this was beautiful. we have come a long way. I am a gay sikh man in Canada.. who is now 40, it was so hard to come out.. and i love that people feel strong enough to do so in our sikh community. love is love!
My son is 31 and he came out 3 years ago. I wish he had trusted me earlier and said something. I love him no matter what. He is just a different boy now.... full of happiness and warmth 💕
@@pagster3127 sad seeing America change the world
If love is love, then water is water, so why don't you drink it from the toilet
I am also a sikh and in our religion our gurus never taught us this nonsense
Ever.
Bro this is increasing in punjab which is very alarming 😢😢😢@@armaandeep8929
I am trans, and I want to convert to sikhism, but the biggest problem is that i can't cut my beard if I have one... I know we couldn't worry to much to beauty, but it's more about the feeling when looking at the mirror, and don't see myself, it destroys my day.
Do Waheguru meditation in Dawn hours
Do Nitnem & Mool mantar
Do selfless service
Don’t convert to sikhism if you think that of yourself, we are a warrior Kaum, not a khusra kaum. keep that shit to youreelf
I searched up this because I think Identify as bi. It brought tears to my eyes to see how many sikhs support us💖
the ones who do are only a small percentage
I am a Sikh.
I dont support you.
@@DiveEntertainment47 based
@@DiveEntertainment47 ਵਧੀਆ
we must show compassion to all but at the same time protect our traditions. Gandu da kam is prohibited in Sikhi via ਸੰਦੇਸ਼ from Sri Akaal Takht Sahib.
We dont
Sikhism does not judge how God made any individual. Who am I to question Gods creation? But abstaining and a committing to God with your partner is more important.
Being gay isn’t god’s creation
Take a look at SGGSJ Salok Mehl 1, where Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji says:
"pathar paalaa ki-aa karay khusray ki-aa ghar vaas.
What can cold do to a stone? What is married life to a eunuch?"
The traditional road of marriage in Sikhi or Anand Karaj is only reserved for straight couples. Although, homosexuals shouldn't face discrimination in any other way. The institution of Anand Karaj remains specifically for straight couples but homosexuals are still able to receive mukti.
R S veer, Khusra is a very specific lifestyle of people who are either intersex or male to female transgender who live in “households” under their own “gurus” and professionally work as sex workers, entertainers, etc. This tuk describing that married life is useless to a Khusra is not generalizable to all lgbt people because Khusra is a specific lifestyle where a marriage is not advised. Meanwhile all people who are homosexual or transgender are not Khusrey and do not live that specific lifestyle. Their profession/lifestyle rather than their gender or sexual orientation seems to be the more likely reason why Guru Sahib alludes to a married life being unfit for a Khusra. Therefore, I do not this your argument is valid.
Is this what sikhisim is now! You can't portray yourself as a real sikh when you are gay, what are u promoting? Teaching? Its so wrong!
Sikhism advocates for upmost equality, never is it said that homosexuality is condemned or wrong. Guru Nanak went to so many places saw so many people you think he did not meet any gay people? Honestly you are not being a real Sikh
@@mh-di1wd tell me the name of any gay couple on the time of guru's
@@vickieminhas6592 exactly there isn’t, it was never ever prohibited, called disgusting, or anything. And homophobia is also against Sikhi, we believe in equality above everything and will fight for the people who’s voices are suppressed. Funny that you don’t even know the basics of Sikhi
@@mh-di1wd there isn't because it didn't exist that time, it wasn't ment too otherwise it would have always been a thing! I am the one who knows the basics, clearly you don't, it only exist now because people are using religion to fit there needs, they are taking there sexual desires too far
@@vickieminhas6592 oh pls, it has always existed. Gay ppl have always been alive and no you don’t know thé basics. Homophobia is not allowed
Holy fuck this is sooo embarrassing to watch as a sikh
As a Sikh this is beautiful
facts brother
Agreed with you
lmao honestly golden temple priests will never accept this.
Denesh Bhaskar yes but who needs them to dictate..?? Many of them are corrupt themselves
Paramdeep Grewal Yes, if they were a true follower of Sikhi and educated with a working brain, they wouldn’t oppose something that is based on genetics. It’s like asking “if they would support people with brown eyes or black eyes”..duhhhand second, people don’t need somebody to support their sexuality because it’s not for public to decide...
Arunveer Grewal bro your literally signing ur own death wish tryna prove that your norms are right and all SGGS writing are wrong
@@arunveergrewal4346 Arunveer is gay by his views. Dude I dont want anything to do with your view. I think India and sikh community will never support this view.
@@anshveersingh8087 lol Arunveer grewal is gay . He has a boyfriend and hes proud lmao. I dont agree with it and the Indian community doesnt
Don't twist your bullshit agenda with Sikhi. Being kapurukh (unmanly) is mocked in Gurbani. Go read that first!
You are so unsure of yourself that you now need to twist Guru's word to feel good abt yourself!
yes this is a sick agenda i agree, we must stop this perverted lifestyle from spreading in our community at all cost. liberal agenda like these people will try at all cost to normailize it
I think the Sikh community has a long journey ahead of them to fulfil the goal of an inclusive sangat. We need to change our dialogue practices first. Often if you broach the topic of LGBTQ, people will immediately shut you down and refuse to acknowledge the subject. Ignoring it is a form of religious gatekeeping. It is heartbreaking to see sikh lgbtq people express such love for their community and religion, and yet be ostracised through narrow mindedness.
For sure. A lot of people trying to being their prejudices into it. Ironic since this kind of discrimination is fundamentally against Sikhi
Love this talk.
Our Gurus did not mention anything about being Queer in our sacred texts.
All the hate and discrimination comes from people who are heterosexual and are afraid of the "other"
May we grow to love everyone.
Yes
Wrong. Take a look at SGGSJ Page 143: Salok Mehl 1, where Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji says:
"pathar paalaa ki-aa karay khusray ki-aa ghar vaas.
What can cold do to a stone? What is married life to a eunuch?"
We can infer from this that the traditional road of marriage in Sikhi or Anand Karaj is only reserved for straight couples.
Guri Singh your wrong. They said that marriage is a union of two souls and those two souls belong to a man and a women. Stop spreading false news bruh
Normal .
I'm assuming your normal .
Please expound on normal .
Lavar Ball Even if they said that marriage is a union between a man and woman, they didn’t tell people to shame gay/lesbian people on the name of sikhi either...so all those ppl who are claiming to be very true followers of sikhi in the cmnt section by disgracing others are not sikhs either bdw with that logic
Raised loosely Christian but became an atheist. In the UK, I've never been bothered by the Sikh community. On anything. They don't preach. They don't protest against people, especially lgbt+. Can't say the same about alot of the other religious groups.
There are lots of gay in sikh community but they don't come out
Sikhs are all free to do what they want. But the sacred ceremony of anand karaj is both a marriage to your significant other. And also to god. You have to be born a male, and born a female to take part in this ceremony. If anyone wants to argue I’ve got all the time in the world.
Who wants anand karaj? We'd do temple marriage being Sikh...
@Ramandeep Singh but so called "old Sikhs " who call them epitome of Sikhism, doing dirty politics, are anyway not gonna allow gay marriage in gurudwara
Being gay is not just about having sex with the gay. It is as same as straight ppl, we have feeling and love too fyi
@Ramandeep Singh you better do not explain me love. IDK you personally but I do path everyday, I'm amrit dhari. But d fact is fact. Guru Grantham sahib ji says nothing about love is meant to be heterosexual "only". They didn't say anything about homosexuality but why are "so called" old sikhs are not allowing gay anand karajs. This is the question. We cannot expect a change unless we change our perspective from within. You guys don't understand our look out so please just let it be, no.
@Ramandeep Singh I'll not change melt religion but still marry in court or temple. None of ur business dude
It pains to see all this hate in the comments.
It's funny how the vast vast majority of Sikhs are social conservatives and don't follow the core tenets of Sikhi.
Knows nothing about the Sikh religion so I can’t comment. I’m a simple American Indian
If u want to be gay so be it but don’t bring religion into it the gurus only gave the Khalsa to either Singh or Kaur anand karaj is for the marriage for a man or a woman, people have the idea that the only reason to this is that lgbt was heavily suppressed in those days however then you crackheads contradict yourself into believing that the gurus were all knowing
Don't be fucking rude this is absolutely disgusting. As a Sikh we should accept them as who they are because that is what it is about. We are accepting of people regardless of caste, race, religion etc. If you don't believe this that u r not a true Sikh
@@hammytrey6955 We should no discriminate. That is true. But that does not mean we can't have our own Sikh values. We can't just change Sikhism because of who people want to sleep with.
@@hammytrey6955 YOU are no one to decide who is a Sikh and who is not a sikh
Only Khalsa Panth ਪੰਜ ਪਿਆਰੇ can do so
@@hammytrey6955shut up fruit cake
I'm sorry but I'm not a Sikh and I'm not judging but somehow this doesnt seem right😬😬😬😬. If you chose to be gay or found urself to be gay why are you trying to undermine the beliefs of others ( the turban, the long beard does not settle with colorful nails, a womans belt instead of a traditional dagger that I've seen near my neighbors. I'm sorry people but the turban does not match with heels, nails or makeup... just what is the purpose???? Homosexuality is spreading faster than anything in this world...
Thank you, Elisa. Speak the truth.
It's because people have lost their vivek (discriminatory power of the mind). Vivek discriminates between right and wrong ideas and guards what enters your mind, like a guardian. It's like a Kid when he sees something wrong in the TV for the first time he closes his eyes. But the world nowadays is set up purposesfully to gradually eradicate this basic God given faculty and accept everything as good, in the name of progressive thought. And there is no one to give right knowledge at a young age. Most people learn the hard way and find the Guru at a later age, like me.
@Tadgh, fílí na hÉireann and their pronouns ....
Such emotionally intelligent, resilient, and inspiring sikhs and queers. Dhan Guru Nanak, you are amazing.
Hello sir ❤️
ਸਾਲਿਓ ਗਾਂਦੇ ਕਮ ਕਰਨੇ ਨੇ ਤੇ ਸਿੱਖੀ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਲੈਕੇ ਪਗਾ ਬਣ ਕੇ ਸਿੱਖੀ ਨੂੰ ਬਦਨਾਮ ਨਾ ਕਰੋ.
Just fuck off nobody cares about ur opinion u homophobe
@@handsomeemz1565 stfu, he is 100% right. Respect the uncle
@@mrsingh3136 u just keep ur narrow minded opinions to urself
For those that say SGGSJ does not say anything about this topic are mistaken: When Guru Nanak Sahib says: "ਭੰਡਿ ਜੰਮੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਨਿੰਮੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਮੰਗਣੁ ਵੀਆਹੁ " note that ਭੰਡਿ is not a gender-neutral term! Further, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee in his Baanee very clearly writes: ਅਕਿ੍ੱਤ ਕਿੱਤ ਕਾਰਨੇ ਅਨਿੱਤ ਨਿੱਤ ਹੇਹਿੰਗੇ ॥ ਤਿਆਗ ਧਰਮਣੇ ॥ ਤ੍ਰੀਅੰ ਕੁਨਾਰਿ ਸਾਧ ਜੋਹਿੰਗੇ ॥ ਪਵਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਚਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਚਿੱਤ੍ਰਤੰਨ ਬਚਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਮਿਤ੍ਰ ਧੋਹਿੰਗੇ ॥ ਅਮਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਮਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਭਾਵਣੇ ਸੁ ਮਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਅਮਿੱਤ੍ਰ ਸੋਹਿੰਗੇ ॥ . . . So while I do not condemn anyone, I will simply request that no one distorts Guru Sahib's Baanee or Rehat by claiming that Guru Sahib's writings do not mention this topic, they do.
@@khoji5386 Mere humans do not have the authority to translate or interpret Guru Sahib's Baanee. Therefore, the tuks are provided as is. If you read SGGSJ and Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee's Baanee yourself, these translations and their meanings will be self-evident.
Just as with your ignorance, a religion does not grow .
It is obvious that you lack intelligence & a penis . Both are imperative for progression under your rule .
All good but the only conflict to find against this is Lust and anand karaj
i'm not a religious scholar. i'm just a fellow sikh trying to balance all aspects of my identity to live my life honestly, just as the guru ji's advised. lust is something that is prevalent in heterosexual relationships as well. to denote lust in a heterosexual relationship more acceptable than a homosexual relationship as a whole, is wrong and contradictory. homosexual relationships aren't spurred by lust; they're motivated by the desire to love, and to be loved. to spread love. to live honestly. sexual feelings that may accompany this yearning is natural, but lust is when we give into it unabashedly. lust is thoughtless, thus it doesn't matter which 2 individuals - gender accounted for - are experiencing it.
the anand karaj is more tricky. it's such a beautiful ceremony, the rites of it are wonderful and sacred. however, those who use the mentions of 'bridegroom' and 'bride' as literally being a man and woman are misguided. in our religion, marriage is the union of two souls. a soul is genderless, and in front of Waheguru Ji, who is the ultimate husband, our souls - ALL of our souls, regardless of gender identity - is the bride. this means that a man's soul is considered to be a bride. as is a woman's. as are those who identify as non-binary. the body, what we say, how we act, how we choose to present ourselves, our chosen gender identities, means nothing at the end of the day, because our essence is tied to the soul. you don't hear people saying that every individual on earth is a woman because the soul is deemed the bride. why? because we know identity exists. cis men still hold the soul of a bride, waiting for her bridegroom. that does not change at all from person to person. so why does it matter if the outward appearance and identity of the two people being joined together shows that they are both men? or both women? or someone who decides that ties to gender aren't needed? the soul remains the same. the soul wants to be reunited with the Waheguru Ji. that is all that matters.
unfortunately, because of sociocultural impacts of colonialism, a queer communities are condemned in india, where before, hundreds of years ago, this was not the case. things are complicated now. those who preach goodness and collectivism are the same people who limit those people - GOOD people - from a faith that they are every bit entitled to. these people are not led by religion: they are led by the times, to earthly attachments of manmade constructs about what is 'right' and 'wrong', and these judgements are grounded in exclusionary practices, which go against sikhism.
our gurus advocated for truth and peace for the majority; the LGTBQIA2+ is not a 'new' idea. queer people have always existed. there are world known queer poets who were alive and well known during our guru ji's times. people knew they existed, and i'm sure our guru ji's did as well. guru nanak ji was a nomad: he visited so many places, met so many people, was exposed to so many cultures... do you think he was not aware?
i wish our siblings would release their attachments to this world; to their bodies, to their countries, and even to their cultures, which oftentimes perpetuate stereotypes, and consider life through what it was meant to be seen through: our souls. and maybe then they would find that we are all the same, deserving individuals.
but then again. i'm twenty years old and have a poisoned mind so... what do i know.
i forgot about the 'procreation' bit, but it's, at least in my opinion, much simpler. procreation is the act of sex for giving birth. however, there are many men and women who exist that are infertile, or experience complications that require them to medically remove their genitalia that would therefore stop their chances of procreation. are these men and women any less loved by Waheguru Ji? of course not. procreation is not a reason to be alive, it is not the reason we breathe every day. for these men and women, we encourage procreation through other means such as surrogacy and in vitro, but oftentimes those are expensive and the results are not always positive. but you know what else exists? adoption. and adoption is no less beautiful than biologically attained children.
at the end of the day, procreation isn't the act of simply giving birth. it's raising a child, loving them, nurturing them, teaching them about Sikhi.. THAT is procreation. if you think about it, people give birth to serial killers and a whole plethora of terrible human beings, so is that the procreation that we are taught of? or, conversely, many parents have children only to neglect them severely as they mature. is this procreation as taught by our faith? no. the procreation we are taught is to help the spread of sikhi and love and peace, not to physically put a child on this earth. thus, the 'homosexuals can't procreate' argument is fallible as well once you find the essence of the text. they absolutely can. they can instil all the teachings of our guru ji's in their child, who will then spread those through the world. that is true procreation, and it is not limited to biology.
@@excelsior6473 i guess the inly concern is that Anand karaj is being done between a Sikh man and woman.
This can't change
@@hope2251 why not. Who said it can’t change 🤷🏽♀️
@@AP-dv5vk because it's a conversion ceremony, if you're doing anand karaj you're converting to Sikhism
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....dude in pink turban is fucking hilarious
Shutup
Good for them, but are cherry picking things from Sikhi to suit themselves. So I hope people know they are not representing the Sikh faith. One of Guru Nanak's core teaching was contributing to society by marriage and procreation. And the speakers also have cut body hair while keeping the Kesh and Turban?
they will go to hell for doing butt sex with anothar man
Hmm... where else have I heard those same talking points about “procreations” and “contributing to society by marriage” ? Ohh that’s right!!! Every jenkie ass Christian anti gay missionary. Homosexuality is not new or born from western influence but homophobia certainly is. Just look at the way american Christian missionaries have introduced homophobia to countries such as Rwanda and the fact that 50 percent of countries who outlaw gay sex were British colonies lmfaoooo y’all really be talking out of your ass
@@harsharnkaur2075 your absolutely right, in Afganistan they burn homosexuals BUT I know for a fact that many leaders of militias screw little boys... People just want someone to hate
This is a studio full of devils. No need to spend a lot of time analyzing specifics. Just wickedness.
Jeff Elkensaw Hahaha, and they will also greet you in the same hell bro because you ain’t a piece of truth either!!!! Fucking idiot
God help us...
exactly
Gurbani is gurus word. Guru ji speaks for akaal purakh maharaj and communicated with raab himself. First thing is first. You can’t change, or try to twist our sacred hymns and scripture, nobody can. I wish all you good fortune in the days to come.
Khalsa path is not the khusra path. It is the path of guru gobind Singh Ji maharaj.
Your being derogatory towards them, that not Gurmukh way either.
Sure, I too believe the rehatnama, but that does not form my basis to look down or belittle those who are different from me
I respect your thoughts
But don’t show sympathy, feel the empathy.
Good
Bruh wtf is this?
MrSkePtical wtf are you
🤔🤔🤷♂️🤷♂️
The purple turban wears pride on his finger nails and in his entirely unnatural flamboyance and is in no way a true Sikh. The far left he/she thing im guessing? Mentioned safe spaces lol, try to accept Hukam instead like a proper Sikh. I didn't think this video was going to go this direction when I clicked it. I was was immediately disgusted by declarations of pronouns and just started skipping around. Thankfully this dead video only has 11k views. Prolly the same 700 people having it on repeat for confirmation bias. I am not Sikh for what its worth but apparently I have studied far more thoroughly than these 4. If they even identify as 4. Their preferred number may be 3
i'm a sikh and a lesbian. proud to be both!
Well you can’t read gurbani
We sikhs should be ashamed our gurus never taught us this
@@arjbajwa too bad because I do. come and stop me lol
@@oh_dip_donkey_doug if you did you would understand that that isn’t allowed
@@arjbajwa where does it say that, my love? i listen to kirtan, gurbani and do the jabji sahib paath. all shri guru granth sahib ji says is everyone is equal, that is why we sit on the ground and eat langar. everybody is on the same level irrespective of their caste, colour, religion, gender or sexuality. our guru jis have always encouraged to stand up for those who suffer from injustice like how guru teg bahadur ji sacrificed his life for kashmiri pandits. all we are taught is kirat karo, naam japo te vand shako. please don't spread hate and drive away people from Sikhism. if guruji thought it was a sin, it would've been written because all the sins are mentioned. since existing how waheguru made us isn't a sin, don't spread incorrect information.
This is so wrong
xShoota69 yes ik sikhism up to what I know do not acecpt them
@@svll4131 no that is not completly right. In Sikhism war accept everyone. Of course including homosexualls. But it kinda a POV thing.
In my opinion, Baba Ajit Singh, for example, was a warrior. OUR RELIGION IS A RELIGION FULL OF WARRIORS and to be honest, seeing something like that makes me sad. I have nothing against homosexuals and their preferences. But a man in the shape and color of a Sikh who wears nail polish and talks like a woman ... sad. Why can't he be gay and we behave like a man? The Guru Granth Sahib Ji also says that men and women should marry, start a family and have children. In addition, everyone should be accepted as he / she is, including homosexual, but you should still try to meet the former. Conclusion: I have nothing against homosexuals but it makes me sad that someone from a religion full of warriors reveals something about himself or presents everything so proudly. When I see his face, Baba Ajit Singh's face comes straight to my head and I think that he would never do anything for our religions.
Singh Vohra mate wake up....we’re in the 21st century and stop with this masculinity issues you have...you think all men are warriors? What? Whilst you’re at it go bring the line from the Shri Guru Granth Sahib that forbids homosexuality....
@@vijant1395 jo man. When did i said that homosexuallity is forbidden in sikhism. I said in sikhi everyone is accepted.
Try to read correctly.
@@vijant1395 it's never mentioned in our religion. but only men and women can get married
Inside the purple turbaned Sikh is a gay white man. SMH 🤦♂️
Bob Singh exactly. It literally says in the Guru Granth Sahib that marriage is a union of two souls between a “man” and a “ women” and the reason that the Guru Granth Sahib doesnt address anything else about sexuality is because that was not a concept back then
Brick City
The only Gays back then were Pathans (Pashtuns) 😂
@@gurshannahal7868 lol sure.
Nope, gender isn't real, that person is doing life the right way.
JustJ8 how is gender not real 💀💀
I will say this. Sikhi and weakness do not go together. From the very beginning Guru Nanak highly condemned the Hindu warrior clan (Kshatriya) because they accepted mughal rule.
Weakness in mind or body is not accepted anywhere in Sikhi. And yes, this is weakness to an extreme level.
Harvir lol u have got all wrong then...maybe if u don’t like something then move forward rather than going around teaching people when u are ursef brainless??? Go get a job now bye
@@arunveergrewal4346 you are right. The last line is my opinion, and it's wrong of me to tie that with Sikhi.
Harvir Being LGBTQ is not a weakness. It’s just genetics and nature. People have been misguided from a long time that only two types of human exist: straight males and straight females....i still don’t understand how people bring religion into everything like are we gonna kill 1200+ species of animals as well that have been found to have homosexuality...religions nowadays have gone too wrong and too far..u can’t even breathe without somebody giving u lesson on religion and culture
Mr. Harvir Guru Nanak Dev Ji never told to anyone that he was not Hindu. Guru ji were Hindu. Guru Ji never start Sikhism. Don't spread fake information. FYI Mugal was not here when Guru ji born India !
@@funwidgarry He also never told anyone that he was Hindu. He's above religion and so are we.
You think these people can in any way embody 'sant-sipahi'?
You think these people are courageous enough to give their lives for their people?
Based ji 🙏🏾
The way you seem to be carrying judgement seems like you could not practice selflessness and truly put your ego aside…
@@supersolace2027 That's an incredibly short-sighted and stupid view.
By your logic, were the gurus too judgmental to practice selflessness and put their egos aside? Read Guru Granth Sahib, there's a LOT of character judgment and moral stances in that. It's literally characteristic of a religion that judgment is necessary.
Oh and by the way, you conveniently evaded the question. So answer it.
@Robo Redneck They fought Durrani on several occasions, and won, such as in 1757
@Robo Redneck Oh I see. Then you're correct.
Can someone explain to me why the two males in the video are wearing different forms of the turban?
@@BenDover84932 thank you. Is that the name of the different forms of the turban?
hey listen the dudes in the video,i see 2 guys with a beard and a dumalla i am not seeing a shree sahib or but im seeing nail polish just having a beard and wearing a dumalla doesnt make you khalsa. sexual orientation,sexual identity are all related to 'kaam'.im appalled to see the westernization of sikhi.
Don't be like this Sikhism is about accepting everyone regardless of what they identify as if you think this is wrong u r not a true Sikh
I did not held anyone wrong I’m just stating you the very basics of sikhi.you just cant mold sikhi in your personal comfortable space.this whole thing in the video is about sex.ofcourse you can choose your sexual preferences BUT this should not be main concern in a sikh’s life.they might not be even practising sikhi. For the west only the appearance matters.
@@ArshdeepSingh-me2qm this is fax bro
@@ArshdeepSingh-me2qm big facts they're are incredibly self centered
I got this is not what a Sikh is
This is embarrassing
Why is it embarrassing? Don't be. People are people they or rather we always have imperfections
ひ604_ K1ng 01 604 surrey gang yea u true though bro
Is it part of life.
This disgust me.
you and your words disgust me, please don’t bring any of your negative opinions into places where people are respectfully are opening up about themselves. from my perspective you are not sikh i’m guessing so you have no right to place your opinion anywhere near this topic
Dude like what the fuck!!!??
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Do you want our society to become like this? Our women need strong Sikh men. Every man needs a good women. There is a reason we were some of the most powerful warriors in the region of India.
M sorry, but u r homophobic
I wish your child never turns out to be gay. His life is going to be hell because you don’t know what it takes to be someone whom you’re not and clearly he would have to do it .
@@jashanjeetsingh9696 gay has no place in Sikhism
Jeff Elkensaw yeah you wish🤣
I’m one and I’m certainly proud of it . What do you say , What should i do- Kill myself?? It’s so hard to pretend to be someone I’m not . Thankfully I’m not feminine which makes it easy to stay closeted but still see how difficult it is to hide . You won’t understand that because you’ve never been into a situation like that.
May God guide you lost souls to the true path Ameen
WTF!!! Saleo Bande banjo..
Ki banu dunia da! Sache Paatshah Waheguru Jaaane..
Sachi gal a
so beautyfull sentence -when im alone with my spirituality and sexuality everything is safe
Agreed! But no need to make a song and dance about it. Live your life happily and no need to cause a debate like they have in this video. What a waste of time and resources. They could have utilised the money spent on better things, such as feeding the poor and hungry.
Is the purple turban guy wearing nail polish?
The Chosen One Lol, seriously? I was right, u got no job lol. Why are u so frustrated tho? 🤣🤣🤣🤣i just can’t with you....yes he is wearing nail polish...if u are embarrassed, u would have already exited the video, instead of replying to anyone who is more educated than u
The Chosen One and also, even if he is acting, why r u crying like a kid? Nobody wants to live a depressed life like u
The Chosen One And yeah, thanks for reporting my comments. Or maybe somebody deleted it...because who ever was that, they knew I made a fucking strong point...and coming with an argument with that tough
The Chosen One And if you don’t like him that way, it’s fine...I am sure he and many thousand people won’t like u either...move on and do something productive because IF IT’S NOT YOUR LIfE, it’s not your choice. PERIOD
@The Chosen One I guess it kind of is but your language is a bit more embarrassing
This is wrong u can’t be gay an Sikh stop tryna change sikhi hindus and British ben tryna change sikhi I follow orthodox sikhi u can’t be that’s wrong sorry
You can be a gay and a Sikh together.
Guru nanak met a gay person in iraq, and he never discriminated against him.
Both heterosexual and homosexual pleasures are against sikhi, so clearly someone an be a gay sikh
Values and responsiblities are same for female as well as male in sikhism like speaking against wrong , connecting to god(akaal purakh) and doing sewa . As long as you are following them i've no problems
Brilliantly insightful discussion from outstanding ambassadors for humanity..so proud of each of you 🙏🙏 you are all such an inspiration and give me confidence to be who I am..thank you 🙏🙏
Absolutely love this, they are perfect as they are, no one here should be judging anyone!! ❤️
How can ppl of a religion that preaches inclusion hate gay people
People of religion dont hate gay people but there is a problem in the need to force people to accept it. It seems like homosexuals need validation but peoples believes are against so why cant they accept that. No one should be forced to accept something that is against their beliefs and on top of that. LGBTQ groups hate religious groups so why are they trying to force themselves into groups that dont agree with their practices e.g. this guy wearing a turban and trying to be a practicing Sikh but then takes the piss with nails, make up and changes the whole identity of being a proper Sikh. Or gay men fighting to get married in churches even though they know christianity does not accept such practice. It is in he bible that marriage is between a man and woman so why should we change our practices. Why cant they accept the decision they've taken and not force their practices on others.
@@Elisa-yw4bp I get what your saying, you dont have to accept LGBT people but we have to give them all the equal rights that straight people have, atleast in America. People love to pick and choose what to believe from the bible, we dont let men beat their wives or have slaves anymore so obviously not EVERY line in the bible needs to be interpreted literally. If we did that women would have no rights and we would have societal norms akin to ISIS. Read Leviticus 19-23 verbatim to yourself...you'll realize that a lot of the bible is outdated.
@The Chosen One I think u r not Sikh...u r no one to say who can be Sikh and who not ...u don't own Sikh religion.and body who love guru can be Sikh irrespective of their sexual orientation
Everyone is welcome in Sikhi...guru only said to remember naam...and do Simran...and love God ...it said awall Allah Noor upaya ..Murray ke sabh bande...means all people belongs to God ...including gay and lesbian...
Ek Noor the sab Jag upjaye ..Jon bhale ko Mande...so not one is bad and no one is good ...so u can be anyone and u can follow sikhi and do Simran and sewa
@Lionsin u don't knw anything sikhi....
Better read Guru Granth Sahib first...
It is open to all the people..
It only says that we have to leave our ego and Evils inside us and do chanting of God's name...
No body thus that
Wtf is this?
What is in this that’s shocked you??
@@vijant1395 you so blind that you can not see it!
BUAHAHAHAHAAHAHA GAY AND SIKH WAH WAH WAH 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Attachment to sex can destroy ones life that why celibacy and meditation is required for Self-realization.
God I am waiting for the day India legalize homosexual marraiges and adoption ❤️❤️❤️❤️this video is so wholesome... B
That's against sikhi
Me too!!! Marriage equality in India 🇮🇳
@@hapreetkang7781 where is that written?
@@farii__ Anand karaj is only between a man and a woman. Our gurus made sikhi perfect. Please don't try to change it.
@@hapreetkang7781 Gurus aren't god, they were humans, they could also make mistakes, they weren't perfect. That's the whole point. If they were perfect, might as well call them god, no?
Paaji what are yu doing Paaji
This was a great discussion.
As a very Alpha straight Sikh man beliving in family values, I am totally impressed with these people. I was never homophobic and never will be. Well done for speaking so eloquently and educating us all.
Tej Gill
What did they “educate” you on?
sam singh FTW
Ajit Nagra
Come on man. We Punjabi Jats are all Alpha Males
@@bobsingh5521 drown in your ego
Akaal
Singh Banda banja. Akaaaaaaaaalllllllllllaa!
A Sikh is only a Sikh who follows the Gurus teachings by merely calling yourself a Sikh or by wearing the guise one will not obtain Sikhi . Your appearance and conduct must be completely as instructed by Guru sahib ji and the Khalsa or you should be endlessly striving towards towards this goal otherwise you are wasting your time 🙏
Yar pehli bar dehkiya sardar khusra aha badnam karde pye shika nu
Some don't recognise, a body made with sensors to belong to the gender. A Soul take over a body unknowingly, sensors produced the Soul just works within the framework, that's all.
Humans can't thru their thick skull, it's not your doing. There is purpose for a male to act of a female in the surrounding.
No one has the right to complain, it's God's wish.
Non have any say. Just appreciate and stay blessed. God knows.
What a bunch of strange confused jokers!
This is my opinion, I am entitled to speak my mind. I heavily study our Shri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj. Besides the way, this is our current and eternal guru until the end of ages.
Being homosexual is fine. Gay marriage is fine. But gay anand karaj? I will rue the day this will ever happen. It will never happen as long as the Khalsa stands. I will protest and give it my all in protest against such blasphemy. The unholy twist SOME members of the homosexual community have in the comment section. You he/she/her/him and all of the rest of the homosexual community should educate people that there is a fine distinction between gay marriages and Anand Karaj ceremony. I will happily advocate the excommunication of anyone who twists and disrespects our sacred Shri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj. Tread lightly.
@New Tree claiming what? It’s in gurbaani. If you wanna be gay that’s fine, but don’t bring sikhi into it lmao
@New Tree if you don’t want to be a Sikh don’t. Quality over quantity
@New Tree rather have strict followers than loose ruiners
@New Tree its Guru Nanak*, shows how much of a sikh you are. And LGBT are fine, they're just not Gursikhs, or what Guru had in mind for humanity.
@New Tree gurbaani also says you must marry a woman and have children. Goodnight. Go read the 52 hukams. God damn fool.
wow so good video. I'm supporting you :) we are humain being this is the most important. :)
Guys help me out here...is it wrong from a religious perspective to be Gay and Sikh... please can you give me references from the Holy Sikh book
The scriptures talk about getting married and having kids. Not being gay!
@@13thera21 thank you buddy..I'm Muslim my best mate a Sikh Raj thinks Sikhism is not against gay and lesbian marriage.
@@13thera21 thanks Akaal I shall tell him this...
@@mqb5151 Ask him to find a single quote in the scripture condoning homosexuality. He will not be able to find it. What he instead will find is the Gurus encouraging people to get married , start a family, have kids.
@@13thera21 thank you very much..il talk to the nit wit
They can come to the gurdwara of course and but they can go do a xourt marriege but not a marriage in gurdwara!
🌝🌝hein pride pdl 2 2 gali hi deni m
As a Sikh, I love people. But I do believe homosexuality is a sin and against being a child of god. God created us to marry the opposite sex, (which the point of marriage)
In God's eyes we are all equal.Be a homosexual is not one's choice,he or she born in this way.
Navdeep Deol according to Sikhism marriage is a union between two souls which belong to one man and one women
@@gurshannahal7868 so in sikh religion where it is written that God hate lgbtq's people. in the eyes pf God all are equal , he never make anything wrong. only some people hate lgbtq community who never understand about it. God make humans not anything other. when somebody dead God never judge that this person is male , female,rich ,poor, handicap,balck,white no never ,God only see that a human die only pepole judge to other people on the behalf of these things.
Navdeep Deol that’s is false, people are raised the way they are. Nobody is born a killer, they are raised that way, nobody is born a racist, or even a homosexual.
Navdeep Deol and god judges the actions of people, and being homosexual is a choice and a lustful life
"Yaaassssss" 🤣🤣
i dont know what makes me more sikh this or knowing nanak was actually a sullah
Lies all lies
Why are they singing while talking?
It's a gay trait
Funny I hate it LOL. Speak fluent no need for the chorus
jajajajajajajaja something is wrong with this world
Tuci paggan lavo te churiya pavoo
Nal salear suit
For all the non sikhs in the comments tryna speak for sikhi about this topic should know our faith believes in no one should be persecuted or discriminated based on who they are ,what they believes in and what they look like AND IF U DISAGREE WITH THIS UR NOT A SIKH. The punjabi culture is very different from sikhi remember that. So if you believe guru sahib will reject Members of this community because of who they are ur wrong. its sad to see some punjabis talking down on these 2 singhs y'all should be ashamed.
i don't see any singhs in the video
@@harvir6167 that’s ur opinion GuruJi is always watching and if u think that ur not a Sikh LOL
@@harvir6167 gets some education and stop talking outta ur ass
@@tdotlife6872 if education makes me like them, i am fine without it.
@@harvir6167 that’s completely okay but just don’t call urself a Sikh then simple:) have a nice day moron
Its naam japo kirat karo ,vand chako not land chako😂😂😂😂😂
ਵੇਖਦਾ ਕੀ ਆ... ਫ਼ਤਹਿ ਬੁਲਾਓ
The Gurus emphasized "Free Will" and that our actions, decisions and lifestyles will ultimately lead us to our destination, whether it's heaven or hell, right or wrong, we choose our path. The people in this video have every right to like either Men or Women, however, associating being a Sikh with your sexuality preference is an insult. Why even maintain Sikh identity (5 K's) and then try to justify in public that Sikhism accepts Homosexuality? I don't see the connection, if you are proud of being Gay then go ahead, but I suggest you abandon Sikh indentity and live like majority of the world (cut hair). God bless.
What are your pronounces ?
Wtf is this. PDL
Pride in your sexuality, religious beliefs and who you are is key to being who you are. Always be true to yourself. We love you for your bravery xxxx
@@13pammi_bai13 these people are sick in head and perversion of their mind is strong. maybe only we can pray for them to heal
You are Sikhs. But you are not True Sikhs of the Guru. (Khalsa) HUKAM 12.
Jaman, maran, ja viah mokae jup da paatth kar tihaaval (Karaah Parsaad) kar anand sahib dia punj paurian, ardaas, pratham panj pyaariaan atae hazooree granthee noo vartaa kae oprunth sangat noo vartaaouna - For birth naming, funeral, or marriage ceremonies or devotional reading paath, recite Japji Sahib while making Karah Parshad, perform five verses of Anand Sahib, and ardaas, and then distribute Karah Prashad to the Panj Pyare, attending Granthi, and then to the sangat gathered for worship.
Bundpanga
Sap nu sap larhe te jair kinu chare???
They should remove the crown from there head' and shave there beard's,. What good is a quee lion.
no one appointed you as authority on this matter. LGBT sikh people exist everywhere in the world. your poisonous remarks are the least enlightened and better to not have said anything at all.
@@Tash014
Sikh wedding ceremony is for man and woman and family , not for man and man,. They can be gay be there identity of a Sikh with turban' beard is against sikh teaching and religion.
esh a Sikh marriage is between two souls one belonging to a man and one to a women and it says that in the Guru Granth Sahib. You can either be gay or you can be Sikh. Don’t say you Sikh if you go against a man part of Sikhism. Also a major part of the Sikh culture is to have children so you can also teach them about Sikhism
'their'
Dude I know of Sikhs who wear the turban and are big time gays. They do their thing wearing it. I don’t understand the religion anyways
O rabb ji kis pase Teri duniya ja rahi hai. Pls kirpa karo sab te.
GANDDDDD
Goreya de kaam
I don’t know about being homosexual, but Hating gay propel definitely is gorean de kam! Check your facts veer
Amazing that this discussion is taking place. Sikhi is an inclusive religion and everyone whatever their orientation is equal in the eyes of God
We are equal in front of God. Not equal in reality.
Agreed. But there's no need to make a song and dance about it.
You’re clearly not a proper Sikh in gurbani it’s mentioned that a man and a women must marry
You make for interesting case studies...cue X-Files theme music...
This is pure gand. Sharam karo saleyo... apni ta besti kara hi rahe nale sari kom nu vi badnaam karde..
Shame on people like you. Tusi log kadi nahi smjhoge eh gallaan..tuhaade dimaag to parey hai...
Ishmeet Arora sala
Koi panjabi sardar pagadivala top he kya
Aap bhi sardar ho❤
@@ki2zenahi but mujhe sardar chahiye
@@ki2zeme nahi hu par mujhe chahiye sardar
Guru gobind singh gi and his family died for nothing
They died for humanity and the actual Khalsa maybe not for them
He died for lgbt sikh rights.
😂😂wtf
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