The m12 charger doesn’t charge the battery all the way up. I compared the Milwaukee m12 charger with an after market charger, with same 3ah battery. I came to a full charge on Milwaukee then threw it on the aftermarket and it kept charging for 15 minutes. This shows that Milwaukee cuts off the charge in attempts to save the battery. The Milwaukee m12 standard charger sucks.
I like to pin like that out in the garage. Tell the wive I’m working on projects and I just rapid fire pins into scrap wood. Then I run my finger over it and admire how flush they are. It’s the only penetration going on in my life.
Absolutely never have I had an M12 battery fall out or even come close to it. Infact I'd argue that some tools are almost too difficult to remove. Sounds like they got a broken tool or a broken battery or both.
I owned the one-handed recip Saw made by Ridgid and returned it because the battery kept falling off and bought the M12 fuel one handed recip saw and I cut through thick Steel all day 2 3 days out the week and I have never had a my battery pop off my battery is never popped off my stubby nor my ratchet nor my oscillating tool nor my rotary tool I actually switched to this platform because the battery stay in place so well can't wait to get my hands on that pin nailer loving it Vince keep up the good work
While I agree that having the dual (m18 + m12) charger included in everything would be the best case scenario, it also really annoys me how big the m12 charger is. I feel as though if you are going to include the m12 only charger at least provide some more tangible benefits to using it such as a slimmer profile/footprint or something, or maybe let you charge two m12 batteries at the same time. Something like that would at least redeem it a bit as far as I am concerned.
@@joellerue850 that would be a great idea,, but creating heat and running a fan might be too much to ask from a little battery,, but that tech is soaring through the roof now so who knows
Pin nailers are great for small wood projects and trim/baseboard work. I’m a first-time home owner and have been absolutely shocked how handy these things are. Currently using a pneumatic nailer and very interested in this one so that I dont have to lug a loud compressor and 10ft of tubing around for these little projects.
Just because you set the gun and it's just sinking the nails and a few don't sink in that can just be the wood itself because different spots in the woods it's going to be stronger or weaker that's because it's a natural products great video have a great Sunday to all
I have absolutely no need for a pin nailer right now but I'm thinking of every reason to get one. Just grabbed the M18 Brad nailer and I'm hooked. No more stretching an air line through the window or cracked open door of a customers house because they dont want the compressor running inside. Milwaukee is really killing it and I'm glad I went with their system over some of the other ones. Nothing wrong with running a Dewalt or Ryobi but there's something about Big Red that just works for me
Jon, I don’t know... There has to be a logical reason to take a step back in technology. Maybe it was too powerful with a brushless motor. There could’ve been some liability issues with regards to that, since no contact pressure is needed to shoot a brad, just hold the safety lever down, the pull the trigger. My Ridgid 23 Gauge Pin Nailer works in the same exact manner. Bizarre...
@@martylucas8557 this might be the most logical reasoning, same as their m18 palm sander. Seems a brushed motor is adequate for low torque applications where the added expense of a brushless motor doesn’t make sense.
I love the m12 line. Been using them daily for years. I have one battery with a broken tab and that’s the only battery I’ve ever had come out of a tool while using it.
Glad to see it has more depth adjustment. Have the 16 gauge and with 2.5” nails at full depth they still stick up proud. And the recoil causes the depth adjustment to move. I hope that’s not the case with his gun. The 18 gauge gen 2 doesn’t have any of those problems. - Jacob
I've had it happen with the oscillating tools, original and fuel, but no other M12 tool. I actually disassembled the cases, and put a little more bend in the clip that helps retain them, it happens less frequently.
100% agree. I have at least a dozen M12 tools, and an equal number of M18 tools. I can honestly say I use my M12 tools more often and love them all. My solitary gripe with them has always been how difficult it usually is to remove the batteries (for the record, I have Popeye-forearms) I’m sure that the attempt to keep the batteries as small and lightweight as possible contributes to the non-mechanical latches, but I really hope Milwaukee eventually comes out with a better option.
I think it’s people that beat their tools. Me and my coworker both use Milwaukee stuff now and he’s more throw my tools in the back guy while I own a whole packout setup and take care of my stuff. He’s gone through two m12 oscillating tools and now his m18 oscillating is going out. The m12 he wrecked 3 batteries and now the oscillating tool won’t really hold them in meanwhile my first m12 oscillating tool is still like new same amount of use. Personally love the m12 line wish I bought sooner.
I'm a 1st year carpenter looking into different career paths and finishing Carpentry is on the mind too. Really I want to do everything that being said I'm considering buying into the M12 line.
Ive had zero problems with m12 batteries falling out. Love the new m12 fuel oscillating tool. Thing is a beast. Definitely excited about this new pin nailer.
Need to see it and compare it to the Hitachi 18 volt pin nailer, its pretty small for Hitachi. We ran hoseless for a year straight with 3 Hitachi battery framing guns. These battery nailers are making a lot of progress.
I’ve only used Milwaukee sense 2012 exclusively. I have not had a problem with the battery’s at all except after 6 years a batty will go bad so great tools
@jami w checked this morning 1-27-21 still not available.. Got my 18g brad nailer coming today. Cant wait to trim all day with no f-ing compressor !!!!!!
@@douglasschmidt9929 the brad nailer is so perfect best investment I ever did perfect for finish carpenters instead of lugging around the cords an compressor nope just the tool an trim 😂 I remember I was in Virginia doing apartments but we had to wait for the carpet guys yanno how it be one room finish one room aint but shit when there was one room all the way in the end I didn’t bring the compressor or anything just my Milwaukee 18 gauge an the trim
@@los877 I still prefer pneumatic if I'm doing a lot of trim. Maybe I'm living in the past I don't know but I usually only use my battery gun for small stuff and for that it's awesome, but my pneumatic is so much more comfortable and it's a better tool overall I think
Never had a issue with the battery coming out but it is tricky to get the batteries out of the m12 rocket light. But Thk u for this! I love Milwaukee tools and have a few m18 items but venturing more and more into the m12 stuff. This nailer will be mine sooner than later
I’ve had the exact opposite problem with the m12 multi tool. Never had one fall out but the 2.0s are hard to take out, especially when drywall dust is involved.
I run the M12 line as well VINCE . The only tool I have an issue with the battery coming loose is the the old multitool. I just got the new M12 fuel multitool and am excited to not have that problem now. Plus the new one is so much faster.
Actually really happy its in the m12 line. Love the stapler! Absolute masterpiece! This thing will replace my workzone battery compressor i have just for running a pin nailer 😁
I need one of those. On the subject of the m12 batteries coming out I experienced it when I first had mine but couldn’t have pushed them in properly as I forgot it even happened until I seen you ask the question. I love the M12 kit. They’re good for most tasks. Not very often do I need to get out the M18 stuff.
@jami w and meanwhile I have all milwaukee tools 12 and 18 v and it would be senseless to buy a ryobi and have an extra charger to carry. If u are gonna comment make it make sense.....
@jami w then STFU talking to me jackass if you aren't worried about me. Trust me I have 2 garages full of tools genius I just stick to milwaukee peroid. Now go pleasure yourself, thats seems to be your speed....
I’ve had problems with the m12 multi-tool oscillating tool. (Not fuel), but sent it to Milwaukee warranty (the service is amazing) and they just sent me a brand new one.
I've never had a problem I know my father he basically using only M12 unless he takes something from me but I've never heard a battery jumping out matter of fact sometimes taking the M12 3.0 battery out of some tools I really have to grab the battery and pull on it to release it
If it is anything like the stapler, I'll be buying. Sometimes , the battery won't seat and lock in proper on some m12 tools, which could allow the fall out. You get spoiled with m18 and positive battery lock in.
I have a coworker who has the fine tool where you have to hold the battery for it to work, tho I'm not sure if he has dropped it before, the batter shaking lose is a true tale
And or the clamshell of the tool itself my m12 fuel sawzall has had a few falls from ladders and the handle slightly is separated and battery vibrates out every so often no bog deal tho
I'm not very cool or a gang member but my M12 multi-tool started spitting out batteries with in six months. I recently replaced it with the fuel version because it fell out of my hand as hard as could on the concrete after the thousandth time of stopping from the battery coming out. Never had that problem with any other M12 tools though and I use almost the entire line.
I have never had a problem with batteries popping out , however they can be a pain to get out some times . If anything i would say that its impossible for a seated battery to pop out
I been buying nothing but milwaukee tools for years now. Still will despite their little flaws but yes . picked up the m12 buzzer for xmas and yes first week if using it it was stopping mid way use. Couldnt figure out what it was. Couldnt even remove the battery. For the entire week i couldn't figure it out. Finally decided to start hitting the back of the battery thinking i hadnt installed the battery fully in(doubtful but had to figure it out) that did it but i realized in order to work i had to hit it harder than i wanted to. I love and take care of all my tools 18+ years in construction thisnis the first time ive ever had to do this to any of my tools. , metabo, hitachi, nothing. Havent had any issues with them. Milwaukee did let me down in that aspect. However now im not even worried if the tool stops working anymore. I dont mind. Frankly cant remember the last time i had to fix it . but i know uf it does happen again. All i gotta do is slam it against the ground and we're good to go.
I’m about to build an extruding wall to fit a recessed fireplace using TG pine, plus I’ll need a pin nailer for other small projects, I’m waaaay convinced now, I love the small sneaky 12 volt tools
I am a contractor for the big blue box store and I work with moldings hardwood interior cabinetry day-to-day I am an avid buyer and userI have their M12 in their M18 tool setup and I can tell you from having the M12 oscillating tool for 3 years now and avid use it does shake the batteries lose only on the big block batteries does it shake loose on the regular 2 amp or 1.5 or some of the 3.0 smaller block batteries they tend to stay in better but also I have the Ryobi 23 gauge nailer and I use it everyday to put my crown and baseboard and quarter round down and kitchens and it seems to shoot the nails into hardwood pretty good until about a year or two of use and then it stops syncing them into the wood every other nail I was wondering on this pin nailer how well it does and hardwoods like oak hickory cherry maple thank you
I'll admit I don't have a ton of experience with M12. I just have a hammer drill and one battery. My other tools are Ryobi, but I'm planning on getting more M12. I'll say I've never had any issue with the battery falling out. If anything, it seems a little difficult to take out at times. Great video!
I got all excited when I saw this video. I have a home project installing baseboard and thought "Great! A new tool to AND a reason (to provide to my wife😁) to buy it👍" Can't find this anywhere but I guess Q1 2021 isn't over yet😭
Hey Vince so for the M12 battery popping off the reason why I've seen that pop up and some of my tools usually the tabs break on the batteries and one way that that occurs is that if you have like the XC battery or the one with the little foot on it let's say you're using the hacksaw and you're going to town your hand pushes down on that battery and over time with the vibration it breaks the tab and what ends up happening is you switch the batteries around and then you notice that your batteries pop off a little bit where the tool starts blinking. Also had some batteries over defective new with the two amp hour batteries that the tabs were broken like they weren't working properly
Yes! Vince & that Pin Nailer! Still say it should have been combined with a T50 Stapler. Just found out about the M18 Fuel 18ga 1/4" Narrow Crown Stapler 🤯 GO Vince!
I love the M12 line I have all Dewalt tools and still use M12 staple gun my favorite tool and never have problems with m12 batteries except the oscillating tool
The battery problem might be a cold thing I've had it happen to similar Bosch batteries the tabs that lock the battery in snapped on two Bosch batteries. I'm in New Brunswick Canada it gets as cold as -40 Celsius here and I used to keep them in the van then bring them into a +30 Celsius house.
I have M12 tools they haven't done that but I work indoors mostly now and don't store my tools in a van anymore. I only used M18 tools back then and had a Bosch multi oscillating tool that still works fine 10 years later now.
I've been a plumber since 1998 and used Milwaukee the entire time, until last week. I am tired of using 10 mil tape to keep my batteries from falling out. I gave the 12v Skil platform a try and so far so good. Their 12v tools are handling all my 12v needs. I haven't switched yet from the 18v Milwaukee tools though for the tougher tasks.
I’ve had a battery shakeout of a sawzall and it was a defective battery. Other than that the m12 batteries stay in just fine for me, actually once in a great while I have a hard time getting them out.
Agreed , I have issues with some of my M12 batteries not staying in the tool slot and coming loose. Warranty depot said that’s over use on the batteries and normal wear and tear yet there under warranty. I’ve been waiting for this tool. Let me guess NO hard carry case
Even with my older batteries (using M12 system since 2013) I have only had them pop out from a drop of 6 ft or more! Even the worn packs with their "black caps" missing, never had a problem.
Hay Vince, The Fuel 12V hacksaw will drop the battery if there is to much vibration. I have had to send the tool in for a warranty claim do to that issue. It is still a great tool just be careful with the vibration and binding up the blade. Just as a side note. The German Metabo reciprocating 18V will drop the battery if there is to much vibration. I should add that I was cutting a tree down with the Metabo LOL !!!!
Like most people complained, same as me the battery slot is the problem, I have only used my osc few times and that thing started popping off, kinda wish they change the mechanism of battery locking system for it, its a bendable plastic, no spring or lock in clip etc, it will eventually happen even if you didnt have this problem because its just straight plastic clip, over all I still love m12 units.
Pre order says April 15th. Think I saw somewhere where you said March 15th. Any info on that. I pre ordered other day, said April 15th, thoughts. Oh, yeah bought through tool nut. Thanks for any info. Thanks for the awesome videos. Have all the fuel nailer, no issues with any. Thanks
You know it's interesting that you bring up the complaints of battery retention, regarding the M12. I recently purchased the M12 3/8 ratchet; I actually think it's a very snug fit. Ain't gonna just fall out. Pretty positive fixation into the handle. Thank you for the content.
I got on the m12 platform from makita just because of the soldering iron. Soon that evolved to the Fuel impact, Fuel Hammer drill, original oscillating tool, Fuel oscillating tool, cut off tool, rotary tool, Fuel hack saw, right angle drill, jig saw, etc. and I've only had the battery coming loose problem with the NON FUEL oscillating tool.
I have multiple m12 tools, including the Fuel oscillating tool, and I've never had any issues with the battery just popping out. If anything, I have the exact opposite issue that they can be a bit difficult to pull out of my tools. They get really stuck in the rocket light.
I have a craftsman LI oscillating tool. The battery is very similar in shape and size to the M12 battery. The reason mine pops out all the time is on of the catch tabs on the battery is broken. I suspect over time the same thing could happen with the M12 battery. Catch tab catch or crack, or even become just worn (loose). I use a piece of duct tape to secure it or it wiggles loose about every 30 sections. I've been waiting for a M12 tool to come along so I can FB market place the craftsman one and go with a M12 one, but honestly I don't use it a ton so I've not upgraded already.
In my opinion, this is a good solution if you are into the Milwaukee M12 platform. I own a pin nailer that Ryobi makes and it's an excellent pin nailer that looks oddly the same as this one but of course takes the Ryobi batteries. This is probably the same inner workings since it is not fuel. I found a price for it at $249 for the kit with the battery for the Milwaukee. I can actually buy a new Ryobi pin nailer kit and have money left over to get a second battery and some pins. I have been waiting for this pin nailer to come out but now am disappointed with the price since I wanted to complete my change over to Milwaukee tools. I love Milwaukee tools but man do they empty your wallet for that name.
@jami w part of me was speaking stubbornly because I'm sure in the future that Penn Miller will go on sale and I'll just pick it up, LOL. I always have problems buying anything full retail when I know that it doesn't cost most companies that price to manufacture anything. If it's the same company and it's the same or similar design they can at least lower the price for pre-order so they get the product in the market and people to talk about it more. Instead they launched the tool full price because they know you will pay for a name.
The only problem I’ve had with the m12 batteries were the black casing falling off my drill gun. That mainly was due to using the butt of the gun to hammer in plastic grommets after I used a concrete bit to drill the pilot hole. The battery itself always stayed in
So I've never had a m12 battery fall out but I will say I use the 3/8 ratchet the most and because I break nuts loose then hit the motor, I've noticed the black plastic end of the battery with the clips kinda wobbles side to side now but still no issue with it
The only time I’ve had issue with m12 batteries popping out was after dropping the tool and if that battery has been dropped a few times it will pop out of the multi tool but as I said I’ve dropped my tool on accident a few times so I don’t blame Milwaukee I blame the user
I had battery issues with the first m12 multi that they came out with. Never got the newest one. I have multiple m12 tools and that was the main one. I had the hacksaw battery pop out a couple times but I’m pretty sure it was just that one battery. I use these tools daily as a trim carpenter. Not hating on the m12 because I use them a lot
Never had a problem with my m12 batteries that are newer. but I do have one that’s about 5 years old and it does get loose sometimes. It has never popped all the way out tho so overall I would say the quality control is pretty awesome
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My man hates the m12 charger because why not sell it with the m12/m18 dual charger to get more customers into both platforms! Got u Vince
Nailed it... or should I say Pinned It 😉
@@Cordale1988 perfect!!! 😂
😂😂😂
The m12 charger doesn’t charge the battery all the way up. I compared the Milwaukee m12 charger with an after market charger, with same 3ah battery. I came to a full charge on Milwaukee then threw it on the aftermarket and it kept charging for 15 minutes. This shows that Milwaukee cuts off the charge in attempts to save the battery. The Milwaukee m12 standard charger sucks.
@@paedahe4975 i tried it too with an off market charger, waitleys and it kept it charging for 12mins more, i was surprised
I have never had a problem with the m12s falling out, only getting them out
Same
The oscillating tool is horrible for rattling the battery out on long cuts.
Same, worst battery release design
Ya you have do it %150 correct and serious to get em out. Never had one just come out, ever.
Same
I like to pin like that out in the garage. Tell the wive I’m working on projects and I just rapid fire pins into scrap wood. Then I run my finger over it and admire how flush they are. It’s the only penetration going on in my life.
Same sir
im sorry bro
It’s time to nail the neighbor. Side job,ya that’s it a side job.
That's why they call it the "Man Cave"
Comment of the month.
M12 batteries are difficult to remove. Basically the opposite of “loose and falling out”
Unless you use knockoffs
Something about the sound of this tool is really satisfying.
ASMR worthy
I finally picked up the M12 pin nailer today via Depots special buy of the day good deals today.
Absolutely never have I had an M12 battery fall out or even come close to it. Infact I'd argue that some tools are almost too difficult to remove. Sounds like they got a broken tool or a broken battery or both.
Agreed. Especially on my OMT... it’s almost a struggle sometimes
My m12 batteries make me feel like I have weak pathetic finger strength sometimes. Which is good. I probably do
I owned the one-handed recip Saw made by Ridgid and returned it because the battery kept falling off and bought the M12 fuel one handed recip saw and I cut through thick Steel all day 2 3 days out the week and I have never had a my battery pop off my battery is never popped off my stubby nor my ratchet nor my oscillating tool nor my rotary tool I actually switched to this platform because the battery stay in place so well can't wait to get my hands on that pin nailer loving it Vince keep up the good work
Pin nailers are great to help glue setup
While I agree that having the dual (m18 + m12) charger included in everything would be the best case scenario, it also really annoys me how big the m12 charger is. I feel as though if you are going to include the m12 only charger at least provide some more tangible benefits to using it such as a slimmer profile/footprint or something, or maybe let you charge two m12 batteries at the same time. Something like that would at least redeem it a bit as far as I am concerned.
Can’t wait for the Milwaukee personal 12v fuel shaver
Been saying this for years and y not hair dryer for the wife when camping
@@joellerue850 that would be a great idea,, but creating heat and running a fan might be too much to ask from a little battery,, but that tech is soaring through the roof now so who knows
A collab between Milwaukee and Manscape would be dope. Lessens the job site theft when your tools are covered in pubics
Im positive he meant a planer . And yes , I’d buy that in a heartbeat.
Pin nailers are great for small wood projects and trim/baseboard work. I’m a first-time home owner and have been absolutely shocked how handy these things are. Currently using a pneumatic nailer and very interested in this one so that I dont have to lug a loud compressor and 10ft of tubing around for these little projects.
Just because you set the gun and it's just sinking the nails and a few don't sink in that can just be the wood itself because different spots in the woods it's going to be stronger or weaker that's because it's a natural products great video have a great Sunday to all
I have absolutely no need for a pin nailer right now but I'm thinking of every reason to get one. Just grabbed the M18 Brad nailer and I'm hooked. No more stretching an air line through the window or cracked open door of a customers house because they dont want the compressor running inside. Milwaukee is really killing it and I'm glad I went with their system over some of the other ones. Nothing wrong with running a Dewalt or Ryobi but there's something about Big Red that just works for me
Very good review. Other reviewers was so amazed of how a nailer perform but wasnt using the “longest” nail on a full thickness hardwood. Subscribed
It’s not Fuel so they can offer a “New” Fuel version in 6 months and get people to run out and buy it again. Not that I would do that or anything 😄
Love how the warranty is 3 years and not 5.
The Fuel version will probably be 18v and utilize 2” pins. Or 12v 2” who knows.
Jon, I don’t know... There has to be a logical reason to take a step back in technology. Maybe it was too powerful with a brushless motor. There could’ve been some liability issues with regards to that, since no contact pressure is needed to shoot a brad, just hold the safety lever down, the pull the trigger. My Ridgid 23 Gauge Pin Nailer works in the same exact manner. Bizarre...
And a gen 2 to correct their design problems like they did with the gen 1 18 gauge nailer.
@@martylucas8557 this might be the most logical reasoning, same as their m18 palm sander. Seems a brushed motor is adequate for low torque applications where the added expense of a brushless motor doesn’t make sense.
Thanks Vince, appreciate the no-nonsense, focused tool review.
One of your best reviews Vince...thanks and all the best to the VCG Crew!
Now I just need an M12 Stapler that shoots insulated staples for Romex wires. Then I’ll be a very very happy man.
Long time subscriber and user of milwaukee and i have never had any of my M 12 batteries fall out. Love the channel ❤. Been in the trade 10+ Years.
I love the m12 line. Been using them daily for years. I have one battery with a broken tab and that’s the only battery I’ve ever had come out of a tool while using it.
Glad to see it has more depth adjustment. Have the 16 gauge and with 2.5” nails at full depth they still stick up proud. And the recoil causes the depth adjustment to move. I hope that’s not the case with his gun. The 18 gauge gen 2 doesn’t have any of those problems. - Jacob
Yes, please put together more moldings. I wish there was a non-fuel 1/4" narrow crown stapler. For occasional use in my RV.
I got one finally!!! Wow, what a difference! No stupid compressor noise, next will be my brad nailer to convert to electric!!!!!
I've been using M12 tools for ten years and never had a battery come out. They are a little too tight when new if anything.
If anything, I find that the M12 batteries are a little difficult to pull off the tools intentionally.
10 years 🤣
I've had it happen with the oscillating tools, original and fuel, but no other M12 tool. I actually disassembled the cases, and put a little more bend in the clip that helps retain them, it happens less frequently.
100% agree. I have at least a dozen M12 tools, and an equal number of M18 tools. I can honestly say I use my M12 tools more often and love them all. My solitary gripe with them has always been how difficult it usually is to remove the batteries (for the record, I have Popeye-forearms) I’m sure that the attempt to keep the batteries as small and lightweight as possible contributes to the non-mechanical latches, but I really hope Milwaukee eventually comes out with a better option.
I think it’s people that beat their tools. Me and my coworker both use Milwaukee stuff now and he’s more throw my tools in the back guy while I own a whole packout setup and take care of my stuff. He’s gone through two m12 oscillating tools and now his m18 oscillating is going out. The m12 he wrecked 3 batteries and now the oscillating tool won’t really hold them in meanwhile my first m12 oscillating tool is still like new same amount of use. Personally love the m12 line wish I bought sooner.
I'm a 1st year carpenter looking into different career paths and finishing Carpentry is on the mind too.
Really I want to do everything that being said I'm considering buying into the M12 line.
Best tool I think yall have reviewed thanks again vcg yall are always helpful with decisions we always gotta make
Ive had zero problems with m12 batteries falling out. Love the new m12 fuel oscillating tool. Thing is a beast. Definitely excited about this new pin nailer.
my M12 multi tool was really good at popping the battery out after a year of work, switched to the dewalt and works so much better
Need to see it and compare it to the Hitachi 18 volt pin nailer, its pretty small for Hitachi. We ran hoseless for a year straight with 3 Hitachi battery framing guns. These battery nailers are making a lot of progress.
I’ve only used Milwaukee sense 2012 exclusively. I have not had a problem with the battery’s at all except after 6 years a batty will go bad so great tools
When and where is this for sale? I’ve been looking everywhere for months now
@jami w checked this morning 1-27-21 still not available.. Got my 18g brad nailer coming today. Cant wait to trim all day with no f-ing compressor !!!!!!
@@douglasschmidt9929 the brad nailer is so perfect best investment I ever did perfect for finish carpenters instead of lugging around the cords an compressor nope just the tool an trim 😂 I remember I was in Virginia doing apartments but we had to wait for the carpet guys yanno how it be one room finish one room aint but shit when there was one room all the way in the end I didn’t bring the compressor or anything just my Milwaukee 18 gauge an the trim
@@los877 I still prefer pneumatic if I'm doing a lot of trim. Maybe I'm living in the past I don't know but I usually only use my battery gun for small stuff and for that it's awesome, but my pneumatic is so much more comfortable and it's a better tool overall I think
What a Great Video ! Picking this bad boy up !! Can't thank you enough
I've had a 2.0 and a 4.0 pop out while using the brushed multi-tool oscillating tool. I have since switched to the FUEL model for reduced vibration.
I have one m12 2.0 that has connection issues when in an impact gun and I’ve had to dedicate it to non impact purposes but they’ve never fallen out.
I've been waiting for this unit. Great review, and excellent demonstration of a nice new tool. Cheers from Texas.
Never had a issue with the battery coming out but it is tricky to get the batteries out of the m12 rocket light. But Thk u for this! I love Milwaukee tools and have a few m18 items but venturing more and more into the m12 stuff. This nailer will be mine sooner than later
I’ve had the exact opposite problem with the m12 multi tool. Never had one fall out but the 2.0s are hard to take out, especially when drywall dust is involved.
I run the M12 line as well VINCE . The only tool I have an issue with the battery coming loose is the the old multitool. I just got the new M12 fuel multitool and am excited to not have that problem now. Plus the new one is so much faster.
Damn this looks like a game changer. I’m never getting tangled in another air line again!!
Actually really happy its in the m12 line. Love the stapler! Absolute masterpiece!
This thing will replace my workzone battery compressor i have just for running a pin nailer 😁
When will the M12 pin nailer be available ? HD doesn’t list it.
Did he forget he nailed the board down initially before doubling up the oak? 😂😂😂
exactly why im in the comment section
I just bought it hope it is as good as you say it is thanks Vince for the review
I need one of those. On the subject of the m12 batteries coming out I experienced it when I first had mine but couldn’t have pushed them in properly as I forgot it even happened until I seen you ask the question.
I love the M12 kit. They’re good for most tasks. Not very often do I need to get out the M18 stuff.
Im buying it..... as soon as I find it. I've been waiting on this from milwaukee for years !
@jami w and meanwhile I have all milwaukee tools 12 and 18 v and it would be senseless to buy a ryobi and have an extra charger to carry. If u are gonna comment make it make sense.....
@jami w fond something to do other than worrying about me ok. You are not as brilliant as you think you are.....
@jami w then STFU talking to me jackass if you aren't worried about me. Trust me I have 2 garages full of tools genius I just stick to milwaukee peroid. Now go pleasure yourself, thats seems to be your speed....
I do lots of glass replacement in wood Windows and doors and this would be perfect for the stops!!!
With my old oscillator, i had that issue. The new fuel multitool has had 0 issues. I love the new fuel oscillating tool
Awesome & thanks. That light looks clutch when it kicks on. Keep up the great work. You are hands down my go to for information. Have a great Sunday.
I’ve had problems with the m12 multi-tool oscillating tool. (Not fuel), but sent it to Milwaukee warranty (the service is amazing) and they just sent me a brand new one.
I've never had a problem I know my father he basically using only M12 unless he takes something from me but I've never heard a battery jumping out matter of fact sometimes taking the M12 3.0 battery out of some tools I really have to grab the battery and pull on it to release it
If it is anything like the stapler, I'll be buying. Sometimes , the battery won't seat and lock in proper on some m12 tools, which could allow the fall out. You get spoiled with m18 and positive battery lock in.
I have a coworker who has the fine tool where you have to hold the battery for it to work, tho I'm not sure if he has dropped it before, the batter shaking lose is a true tale
Can’t go wrong with Milwaukee nailers in general. Not surprising the pin nailer is a win. I want one!
I think the issue of peoples m12 batteries falling out of the tool is that people are dropping them too much, weakening the structure of the battery
And or the clamshell of the tool itself my m12 fuel sawzall has had a few falls from ladders and the handle slightly is separated and battery vibrates out every so often no bog deal tho
I'm not very cool or a gang member but my M12 multi-tool started spitting out batteries with in six months. I recently replaced it with the fuel version because it fell out of my hand as hard as could on the concrete after the thousandth time of stopping from the battery coming out. Never had that problem with any other M12 tools though and I use almost the entire line.
I have never had a problem with batteries popping out , however they can be a pain to get out some times . If anything i would say that its impossible for a seated battery to pop out
Yep I think they are way to hard to get out
This would be great to keep in our RV
I been buying nothing but milwaukee tools for years now. Still will despite their little flaws but yes . picked up the m12 buzzer for xmas and yes first week if using it it was stopping mid way use. Couldnt figure out what it was. Couldnt even remove the battery. For the entire week i couldn't figure it out. Finally decided to start hitting the back of the battery thinking i hadnt installed the battery fully in(doubtful but had to figure it out) that did it but i realized in order to work i had to hit it harder than i wanted to. I love and take care of all my tools 18+ years in construction thisnis the first time ive ever had to do this to any of my tools. , metabo, hitachi, nothing. Havent had any issues with them. Milwaukee did let me down in that aspect. However now im not even worried if the tool stops working anymore. I dont mind. Frankly cant remember the last time i had to fix it . but i know uf it does happen again. All i gotta do is slam it against the ground and we're good to go.
Thank you for the review! A pin nailer is next on my tool list.
I've never had any milwaukee battery fall out.
I’m about to build an extruding wall to fit a recessed fireplace using TG pine, plus I’ll need a pin nailer for other small projects, I’m waaaay convinced now, I love the small sneaky 12 volt tools
I am a contractor for the big blue box store and I work with moldings hardwood interior cabinetry day-to-day I am an avid buyer and userI have their M12 in their M18 tool setup and I can tell you from having the M12 oscillating tool for 3 years now and avid use it does shake the batteries lose only on the big block batteries does it shake loose on the regular 2 amp or 1.5 or some of the 3.0 smaller block batteries they tend to stay in better but also I have the Ryobi 23 gauge nailer and I use it everyday to put my crown and baseboard and quarter round down and kitchens and it seems to shoot the nails into hardwood pretty good until about a year or two of use and then it stops syncing them into the wood every other nail I was wondering on this pin nailer how well it does and hardwoods like oak hickory cherry maple thank you
This was probably the most interesting tool review I’ve ever seen. New subscriber here
Whene is caming out??
This nailer is long in the making!! I love this Milwaukee product WOW
DUDE!! M12 charger is terrible, everybody needs to own the dual M12/M18 fast charger.
Well i wasnt planning on buying any tools this weekend yet here were are, guess im gonna have to buy one cause that looks tremendously handy
I'll admit I don't have a ton of experience with M12. I just have a hammer drill and one battery. My other tools are Ryobi, but I'm planning on getting more M12. I'll say I've never had any issue with the battery falling out. If anything, it seems a little difficult to take out at times. Great video!
I got all excited when I saw this video. I have a home project installing baseboard and thought "Great! A new tool to AND a reason (to provide to my wife😁) to buy it👍" Can't find this anywhere but I guess Q1 2021 isn't over yet😭
Hey Vince so for the M12 battery popping off the reason why I've seen that pop up and some of my tools usually the tabs break on the batteries and one way that that occurs is that if you have like the XC battery or the one with the little foot on it let's say you're using the hacksaw and you're going to town your hand pushes down on that battery and over time with the vibration it breaks the tab and what ends up happening is you switch the batteries around and then you notice that your batteries pop off a little bit where the tool starts blinking. Also had some batteries over defective new with the two amp hour batteries that the tabs were broken like they weren't working properly
Yes!
Vince & that Pin Nailer!
Still say it should have been combined with a T50 Stapler.
Just found out about the M18 Fuel 18ga 1/4" Narrow Crown Stapler 🤯
GO Vince!
I love the M12 line I have all Dewalt tools and still use M12 staple gun my favorite tool and never have problems with m12 batteries except the oscillating tool
The battery problem might be a cold thing I've had it happen to similar Bosch batteries the tabs that lock the battery in snapped on two Bosch batteries. I'm in New Brunswick Canada it gets as cold as -40 Celsius here and I used to keep them in the van then bring them into a +30 Celsius house.
I have M12 tools they haven't done that but I work indoors mostly now and don't store my tools in a van anymore. I only used M18 tools back then and had a Bosch multi oscillating tool that still works fine 10 years later now.
I've been a plumber since 1998 and used Milwaukee the entire time, until last week. I am tired of using 10 mil tape to keep my batteries from falling out. I gave the 12v Skil platform a try and so far so good. Their 12v tools are handling all my 12v needs. I haven't switched yet from the 18v Milwaukee tools though for the tougher tasks.
I’ve had a battery shakeout of a sawzall and it was a defective battery. Other than that the m12 batteries stay in just fine for me, actually once in a great while I have a hard time getting them out.
I've been using a M12 drill and saw for 10 or so years and never had a battery fall out and never had any problem getting the battery out.
As always another great video. Thanks again Vince. Stay safe my friend
Where can you find this tool? Not sure it’s being sold yet.
Been waiting for months, the only information I've found is q1 of 2020. My coworker got annoyed with the lack of information and bought a metabo.
@@xluke2416 I needed one and bought the Ryobi. Had to be cordless. It's actually a great tool.
Ohio power tool, just got mine a couple days ago
Agreed , I have issues with some of my M12 batteries not staying in the tool slot and coming loose. Warranty depot said that’s over use on the batteries and normal wear and tear yet there under warranty. I’ve been waiting for this tool. Let me guess NO hard carry case
I have 3 nailers on order can’t wait to try them out
Even with my older batteries (using M12 system since 2013) I have only had them pop out from a drop of 6 ft or more! Even the worn packs with their "black caps" missing, never had a problem.
Hay Vince,
The Fuel 12V hacksaw will drop the battery if there is to much vibration. I have had to send the tool in for a warranty claim do to that issue. It is still a great tool just be careful with the vibration and binding up the blade.
Just as a side note.
The German Metabo reciprocating 18V will drop the battery if there is to much vibration. I should add that I was cutting a tree down with the Metabo LOL !!!!
Thanks for the feedback Stephen! 👍🏻
Like most people complained, same as me the battery slot is the problem, I have only used my osc few times and that thing started popping off, kinda wish they change the mechanism of battery locking system for it, its a bendable plastic, no spring or lock in clip etc, it will eventually happen even if you didnt have this problem because its just straight plastic clip, over all I still love m12 units.
Never had a problem with m12 batteries falling out, if anything theyre hard to get out.
Pre order says April 15th. Think I saw somewhere where you said March 15th. Any info on that. I pre ordered other day, said April 15th, thoughts. Oh, yeah bought through tool nut. Thanks for any info. Thanks for the awesome videos. Have all the fuel nailer, no issues with any. Thanks
Day 4 without buying a power tool, I just mailed myself a M18 router in a OPT Box to take the edge off...send prayers
Yes!!! 🙌 It’s the only Milwaukee cordless tool I need. I have a Grex Cordless but I have been waiting for this one to replace it.
Definitely I will buy this product. Any specials at home depot this coming February?
I got the Milwaukee compressor for my pin nailer. I'll wait for another year, or when they drop a fuel version.
its a pin nailer u dont need it to be fuel
You know it's interesting that you bring up the complaints of battery retention, regarding the M12. I recently purchased the M12 3/8 ratchet; I actually think it's a very snug fit. Ain't gonna just fall out. Pretty positive fixation into the handle. Thank you for the content.
I own about 10 M12 tools and I’ve never had any loose batteries. Most of the time I have to use my Vicegrip Groovelock pliers to remove them.
I got on the m12 platform from makita just because of the soldering iron. Soon that evolved to the Fuel impact, Fuel Hammer drill, original oscillating tool, Fuel oscillating tool, cut off tool, rotary tool, Fuel hack saw, right angle drill, jig saw, etc. and I've only had the battery coming loose problem with the NON FUEL oscillating tool.
M12 batteries are fine, never had one fall out or be difficult to get in or out definitely picking this up ,hell i have everyone they make
I have multiple m12 tools, including the Fuel oscillating tool, and I've never had any issues with the battery just popping out. If anything, I have the exact opposite issue that they can be a bit difficult to pull out of my tools. They get really stuck in the rocket light.
I have a craftsman LI oscillating tool. The battery is very similar in shape and size to the M12 battery. The reason mine pops out all the time is on of the catch tabs on the battery is broken. I suspect over time the same thing could happen with the M12 battery. Catch tab catch or crack, or even become just worn (loose). I use a piece of duct tape to secure it or it wiggles loose about every 30 sections. I've been waiting for a M12 tool to come along so I can FB market place the craftsman one and go with a M12 one, but honestly I don't use it a ton so I've not upgraded already.
In my opinion, this is a good solution if you are into the Milwaukee M12 platform. I own a pin nailer that Ryobi makes and it's an excellent pin nailer that looks oddly the same as this one but of course takes the Ryobi batteries. This is probably the same inner workings since it is not fuel. I found a price for it at $249 for the kit with the battery for the Milwaukee. I can actually buy a new Ryobi pin nailer kit and have money left over to get a second battery and some pins. I have been waiting for this pin nailer to come out but now am disappointed with the price since I wanted to complete my change over to Milwaukee tools. I love Milwaukee tools but man do they empty your wallet for that name.
@jami w part of me was speaking stubbornly because I'm sure in the future that Penn Miller will go on sale and I'll just pick it up, LOL. I always have problems buying anything full retail when I know that it doesn't cost most companies that price to manufacture anything. If it's the same company and it's the same or similar design they can at least lower the price for pre-order so they get the product in the market and people to talk about it more. Instead they launched the tool full price because they know you will pay for a name.
The only problem I’ve had with the m12 batteries were the black casing falling off my drill gun. That mainly was due to using the butt of the gun to hammer in plastic grommets after I used a concrete bit to drill the pilot hole. The battery itself always stayed in
So I've never had a m12 battery fall out but I will say I use the 3/8 ratchet the most and because I break nuts loose then hit the motor, I've noticed the black plastic end of the battery with the clips kinda wobbles side to side now but still no issue with it
The only time I’ve had issue with m12 batteries popping out was after dropping the tool and if that battery has been dropped a few times it will pop out of the multi tool but as I said I’ve dropped my tool on accident a few times so I don’t blame Milwaukee I blame the user
Same, and I'm pretty hard on them, hence all the dropping.
Our guy Vince was so amazed by the pin nailer performance, he forgot at 13:30 that he sunk two into the board below at 11:50. That's a good tool.
I had battery issues with the first m12 multi that they came out with. Never got the newest one. I have multiple m12 tools and that was the main one. I had the hacksaw battery pop out a couple times but I’m pretty sure it was just that one battery. I use these tools daily as a trim carpenter. Not hating on the m12 because I use them a lot
I have been waiting for this pin nailer. I have been using my porter cable one I bought over 20 years ago.
Never had a problem with my m12 batteries that are newer. but I do have one that’s about 5 years old and it does get loose sometimes. It has never popped all the way out tho so overall I would say the quality control is pretty awesome
On top of the batteries age it has been beat to hell so adding to my point