Milwaukee M12 Cordless 23 Gauge Pin Nailer 2540-21
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- Milwaukee M12 Cordless 23 Gauge Pin Nailer 2540-21
One interesting feature on the trigger that you may not know is that the M12 pinner has an electronic time-out on the secondary trigger. If the trigger is held down for more than 40-seconds and NOT fired the tool will shut off and you will need to recycle the trigger to activate it.
I think this is a great feature but the time should be reduced to 20 seconds.
Nice Features Not Easily Noticed:
If you look too quickly you’ll miss some nice features on this pinner.
Magazine Magnet
When loading the pins into the magazine if you look close you’ll notice a small magnet. Missed by many, this magnet is your third hand when reloading or changing pin sizes.
Tapered Tank Design
Looking at the top of the tool you’ll see that the nitrogen tank tapers, back toward the front. This keeps the business end of the tool narrower and more compact, allowing better maneuverability, something we appreciate in a finishing tool.
Non-Marring Tips
Another nice feature is the non-mar contact tips. The reserve tip is clipped on the rear of the magazine. If you look closely at it you’ll notice it is a “half” tip. The half tip takes an already nicely designed front end of the tool and makes the tip area more visible. The half-tip is for the carpenters that argue that the tip blocks their line of sight of the feed-lips. [the area where striker and pin feed-thru tool]
Depth of Drive
The M12 pin nailer has a tool-free depth of drive knob. This is something that I immediately noticed and appreciated since all of my pneumatic pinners needed an Allen wrench to move the nose back and forth. The depth knob is faster to dial in and obviously way easier.
Dryfire Lockout
The M12 pin nailer has a magazine reload indicator which I never seem to notice or look at. It does have a dry-fire lockout which is useful for prevent unnecessary holes in our workpieces.
Gas Tank - Power
The pin nailer, and all of our Nitrogen Gas Spring Nailers, work very similarly.
The cylinder has two parts that make up the tank: an inner cylinder and an outer cylinder. The space between those two cylinders is the area that is filled with Nitrogen. The striker & piston travel within the inner cylinder, using the pressure in the tank to provide driving power for the fastener. Each style of nailer (23GA, 18GA, Framing Nailers, etc.) are filled to different PSI’s.
There are two reasons we use nitrogen instead of compressed air, and limiting condensation is one of them.
1) when we fill the tools, during manufacturing or service, we pull a vacuum so the tank is completely cleared. We then fill them with 99.9% nitrogen so there’s essentially no condensation in it. We could do this with air using a compressor that separates condensation/moisture out of the air, but it’s easier and more effective & repeatable to do this with pure 99.9% nitrogen
2) second reason we use nitrogen is to limit any seal permeation. Any sealed, pressurized vessel will experience some small level of permeation through the seals over time. Nitrogen permeates much slower than air. By using nitrogen we can keep permeation so minute that it would be many years (if ever) that a user/owner would ever experience degraded performance due to permeation
ThxThis pin nailer, comes with a 3-year warranty and was designed to provide a user 3-4 years of heavy use without the need for service. That should equate to 50 to 70k barads installed.
Runtime
Runtime: This pin nailer can fire up to 750 pin nails, per charge, when equipped with a 1.5 Ah battery.
LED Light
In the past, I’d scoff at the idea of light on a nailer, especially a pinner. After using this on a project with mediocre lighting, I actually have to eat crow and admit that I really like this feature.
Price
The Milwaukee M12 Cordless 23 Gauge Pin Nailer 2540-21 sells for $249.00 as a kit at Ohio Power tool.
The Kit Includes:
• M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer,
• M12 CP 1.5Ah Battery Pack,
• M12TM Charger
• Contractor bag
Using the Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
I used the M12 pin nailer in the shop building a cabinet to cover a stove hood and also on a cabinet crown molding installation project.
Besides the fact that this pinner is cordless and eliminates the hose, there are three things I like about this pin nailer:
1. Well-Designed: items like the depth or drive, magazine magnet, LED light show thought and care went into this design. They look at this tool, innovated it, and tried to eliminate pain points for the user.
2. Precision: It’s accurate! The double-action trigger and non-marring precision point tip provide sequential driving and accurate pin placement, with a great line of sight.
3. Performance: When I think of performance I’m thinking of size, weight, and power. The M12 pinner is pretty close to my pneumatic nailer in size and punches pins into hardwood like nobody’s business.
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Pre ordered one the day it came out and I've assembled four custom kitchens with it and trimmed four houses. Nothing but good words! I absolutely love the thing.
You trimmed a house with a pin nailer lol.
Don't hire this guy
@@evictioncarpentry2628 I’m sure he only used it where it was applicable
@@evictioncarpentry2628 How do you know if he followed with 16gauge where applicable? I often tack as much as possible with as long a pinner as possible and then nail it off on the stud side with finish gun,
@@leonardo47000 Why?
I can understand tacking and screwing, and even tacking hard to fit up pieces...
But why would you do that?
What is the stud side?
I prefer my cadex 23ga brad nailer. I keep looking @ other 23ga specs, but i think cadex's patent must still be viable.
The cadex can shoot headless pins or brad nails up to 2 1/2" long. The brad nails are suprisingliy strong too. Its way better holding power than a headless pin.
I had one recomended to me by an old colleague that i called up a few years ago for a consultation on a wood staircase. Dudes a master woodworker @ this point.
Got mine last week, I love it! The think is a beast, have put about 250 pins through it so far, not one has been left proud. Milwaukee hit a home run with this cordless pin nailer.
Do you have to refill the nitrogen?
@@jimmy137lossershouldn’t have to for at least 50,000 pins
Got mine last week , used it on two kitchen installs , absolute game changer ...
The depth of drive adjustment on this tool is something I've never seen on ANY 23ga. FINALLY SOMEONE DID IT.
On air tools, an adjuster like that is an add on that bolts in with the air connection. Its pretty much required if your running multiple guns off 1 air compressor.
The one thing i never see on any 23gs except my cadex, is the ability to use 23ga headed brad nails. They must have a patent or something. It also shoots up to 2 1/2" like the big boy finish nailers. It was a game changer for me.
I just picked up a m18 fuel 15ga V2, i do like the battery deal. 10x faster setup. Feels like a framing nailer compared to the 23ga! I like the grip rite nails too, they have a half round head for better holding power, instead of a t shape.
I have had this nailer for 3 months and I learned a couple things from this video that I did not know. I don’t miss using my air pinner at all!
thx
As always Rob you make my decisions well informed. My cheap ryobi pin nailer just died after two remodel projects. Thanks for your work.
I've only used mine a few times so far, but extremely impressed with it thanks for the review Rob
Mine just arrived, and so far I absolutely love it!
It’s firing 35 mm in the hardest Timbers I use , fully set , no problem at all!
Admittedly I only just got it and haven’t used it on an actual job, but my gut says it will be awesome!
I just hope I don’t have any issues with the firing pin or nitrogen, I’m planning to use stainless steel pins too
It’ll pay for itself in no time
I got mine in the mail a couple weeks ago and absolutely love it! Outstanding job Milwaukee!
I did too and only made it 1.5 racks of nails and the driver stuck halfway down
You’ve always got the most thorough reviews! Thanks Rob and crew!
Bought one today. $199 (bare tool) at Acme Tools/Tool Crib. Excited to compare it to my Ryobi pinner, which is a great tool in its own right. Great video, straightforward and quite informative. Thanks so much!
Have fun!
Nice. Mine is coming tomorrow. Glad it meets your approval.
Just bought the Milwaukee 23 pin nailer today. Thanks for the awesome review!
Thanks for the review Rob! Man am I excited about this pin nailer. Last year I invested in the 18 Gauge Gen 2 Brad Nailer, which I really like. The pin nailer will compliment it. I’m hoping to retire the compressor and air nail guns!
I’m just a weekend DIYer that occasionally use a pin nailer so my compressor-tethered Bostich will do, but it’s definitely worth the switch for anyone if you’re using it a lot.
Been waiting for you to review this, glad it’s all positive. Love the 12V staple gun, paid for itself the very first gig. Had to believe the pin nailer would be just as awesome, got to get one pronto.
Mine's coming next week. That leaves the 10 gauge nailer as the very last of my tools that needs a compressor. Happy days.
Great info always a great show
Another win for Milwaukee
I have a Ryobi 23 gauge pin nailer, and though it’s a bitter bigger than the pneumatics, it does a solid job for the price. It, too, is cordless. It’s just a solid pin nailer.
It’s also about 4 x the size of the new Milwaukee Pin Nailer! I’ve heard good things about the Ryobi, but I’d bet you $100 that you’d mothball the Ryobi nailer after using the Milwaukee for 15 minutes. There’s just no comparison...
@@martylucas8557 sure there’s a comparison. You just gave it! You believe that due to the Milwaukee being smaller that people will spend the extra money. The Ryobi is cheaper, but a touch heavier. I’d like to see a few more cordless pin nailers hit the market, but we’ll see how it all goes.
@@martylucas8557 That would depend a lot on usage. A carpenter who uses the nailer almost daily would be better off with the milwaukee, but is it worth the extra cost if you only use it a few times a year?
@@multidinero, other manufacturers have cordless 23 Gauge Pin Nailer, e.g. Makita, Metabo, etc. The problem is that they suck, they’re not consistent in operation.
If you’re not in the M12 platform this might be a good segue.
There’s really no reason to wait around for other manufacturers to figure it out. How long will that take? Besides you’re probably not going to be on the same platform.
Milwaukee has it figured out with the nailers. Their nitrogen charged delivery system is a way better design than Dewalt’s flywheel, besides they probably couldn’t use that system in a smaller tool. Just look at the size of the head on their 18 gauge Brad nailer.
It just comes down to, do you want to spend an additional $200-$250 for a superior designed, reduced footprint and enhanced/consistent delivery system...or not. Because I doubt anything better will be coming out anytime soon.
@@huejanus5505, I guess that depends on the individual. To me it’s worth it! I’m currently remodeling, putting in new flooring, then baseboard molding and quarter round. In addition, I have factory painted cabinet molding to nail up.
Even if I only used it once or twice a year it would be way better than dragging out the compressor, firing it up, then using my Ridgid 23 gauge nailer!!
I took back my Ryobi 18 Gauge Nailer. Getting back the $100 I spent on it. Then I used the hack to get the Milwaukee Fuel Gen 2 M18 Brad Nailer, which was on promotion with an 8 amp HO battery. After returning the battery, then applying the $100 from returning the Ryobi nailer, I ended up paying an additional $55 for the Milwaukee Gen 2 Brad Nailer. It has definitely been a game changer for me.
Anyway...I’m really into acquiring nice tools to get the jobs done. It’s definitely with it to me.
@A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz. Thanks Rob for your review of the Milwaukee M12 cordless 23 gauge pin nailer. Great useful info. Hope to see a long term review in a few years.
Hope you, the staff at TBB, and your families stay safe and well.
you bet
Got mine a few weeks ago. Waiting nfor spacklers to finish and I can put it to work
Great review! Covered a few items I haven’t seen from other reviews or the magnet. Well done as usual. 👍🏻
Who won't love this milwaukee really put their utter thoughts into this, i have tried this on hard woods thinking after several shots at least 1 will remain above the surface but never happened ,,,,,,,,,,man oh man i love this little red monster,,, it's light and really solid makes me feel their next upgrade can down-size the m18 gen 2 brad like this would even be a blessing
Great review. I’m in the uk and Milwaukee have said it won’t be over here ever! Seems a real dumb move that. Just ordered one from the USA 🇺🇸👍
As all your videos very detailed clear info. Well done. Been waiting on this nailer for what feels like forever
Great review! I l purchased the 18 guage version 2 months ago and it works great! Much better than the Ryobi where I had to dry fire it 20 to 40 times before it would it would actually shoot a nail. And for punch work, an airless nailer saves alot of time and frustration. I've watched one other review on this tool on you tube, but was waiting for another review since it's a fairly new addition to the Milwaukee line. Glad I came across yours. And if you already use Milwaukee products and have the same battery configuration on different levels, makes sense to stick with them. I am glad to hear that they include battery and charger with the nailer. It's been piece meal with some their tools for awhile.
Great channel and stay safe.
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Can't wait till it is available in my store
The best 23ga pin nailer is made by cadex. It shoots both headless pins and a proprietary 23ga brad nail with a head. It shoots from 5/8 to 2 1/2" maybe even 1/2". Their nails are strong too.
Looks like a great pin nailer. My Hitachi / Metabo feels & sounds clunky. I thought Milwaukee would come out with a Fuel version in the future. (So, I waited on pulling the trigger on that purchase.) Like they did for the compact band saw.
Rob, this unit looks like they thought of everything. Great review as always.
They need to come out with a 21ga. Nailer, great review as usual
That would be cool
Amazing content - great info , again, thanks Rob!
I love it. Just picked one up. Thanks for this video
Not available over here in Britain yet....but on my shopping list for when it is.
Can't wait to buy it. M12 nice and light too.
Good choice!
Bought this tool. Happy with it though I must say I find myself waiting for the tool to be ready to drive the next shot, unlike it's bigger brothers 18 gauge and up. Maybe a fuel version in the future that could hit the 3 nails a second mark would be worth doing.
Always good info chiefy. I saw some nails blow out the face of the material. D'Oh!
I watched quite a few reviews of this pin nailer before I bought one. This thing is huge compared to my pneumatic porter cable pinner. The one I bought jammed before I fired the 10th pin...I'm quite disappointed. It's going back.
Been waiting on this for a while,..have the 16 & 18g,....will be making this purchase! Thanks again, great review!!!
Hope you enjoy it!
I really enjoy mine ! Very impressive unit !
Funny we went how long with out led lights now we get two and it's not enough; or maybe I am just getting older in the evolution!!
Nothing bad to say about this nailer easy to hide the holes and perfect to hold small filler material and delicate shoe definitely worth the money
I got my first one about 3 weeks ago , overall I love it but , we still find ourselves digging out a Grex gun because of one major misgiving. By FAR our biggest complaint is that it shoots only up to 1 3/8" pins. Our Grex cordless and air both shoot 2" pins and there are so many times that extra 5/8" makes a huge difference with what we use them for. So we still have to smell gas from the Grex gun when we need it. Second problem is the little tips easily fall off of ours so know they will be getting lost a lot, and knowing Milwaukee they will want $20 bucks a tip or more. I hadn't even noticed the time out feature yet because who pushes a tip down for 40 seconds getting ready to shoot. So far other than that we love em so far. Second one arrived a few days ago. Milwaukee,,,, make a 2" model though.
What are you using 2” pins for? I’ve never run across a need for ones bigger than 1 3/8.
@@kellym3610 was my question as well.
Ill let you know how its doing in six months. Picking mine up next week. Its either this or the ryobi which is big and bulky. Man i'm tired of dragging a compressor around.
I did not know any of those things thanks for the info!
Did you know Milwaukee was coming out with a new Pin Nailer?
@@martylucas8557 yes I have one
I knew about it last summer.
@@handymansolutions7834, you have one? Have you just not used it?
I knew about every feature on the Milwaukee Pin Nailer months ago. If I would’ve been able to get my hands on one I would’ve had it out of the box using it! Familiarizing myself with the nailer and associated feature set.
You do know that they aren’t generally available until April 15th, right? The only people getting one early are those that’ve recently placed a preorder or those that have a TH-cam Tool Channel and had one sent to them by the manufacturer.
@@martylucas8557 yes I have one. And I got it from Home Depot last month.
Why aren’t you making videos like the Concord Carpenter instead of watching them, because you know everything already!?
I was hoping DeWalt would have one. But I already own a couple M12 tools so now I will have one more.
Aw I just bought the metabo 18v pinner a few months ago. It's great, but I would have bought this if I saw it first
Pre ordered this and it’s amazing
Great, my reservation with any cordless tool is interoperability. Once you decide on a brand you're stuck to have compatability. I use Ryobi One plus because battery is sane for all. I still have DeWalt 18 volt drill. Bosch and B$D small cordless but all oem unique power. I was able to rebuild my old Nixa 18v DeWalt batteries with NIMH Batts to keep same charger and keep it running.
Great review
4:50 I hate when that happens! 😂
in real life yes! Here - not so much
I just got matabo it was junk sent it back an order this so hope it's good
So what happens after 3 to 4 years? Will the loss of nitrogen completely make the tool unusable? Can it be serviced? I'm just a DIY / weekender so I'm wondering if it's worth the upgrade.
For five years and a cordless tool is pretty much a lifespan, that’s the price you pay for the cordless convenience. If it’s not something you’re willing to do stick with a corded tool
Service call or replace
We have 4 in the company we work. Great guns. But at this moment 3 of them have the nail driver chipped. Bad news is I’m in Europe and they can’t be fixed here.We are stuck with them. Maybe a good upgrade will be a stronger tip. We use them in oak. A lot of oak.
You’re the man love these reviews
The double trigger is pretty standard. As in its o every single 23g nailer not sold in harbor freight
After 4 month mine started leaving the nails proud
Even with depth adjustment?
@@ConcordCarpenter yeah
4:52 - when nails blow out the side 😭
Just cover it with your thumb 😉
At least you know I wasn't sooting blanks
Great video as always, thank you Rob. Let’s say I only shoot 100 pins a year for random home owner diy stuff, is it still going to be unusable after 4ish years?
Very good review, im sold.
Im new to milwaukee tools, i do a lot of kitchens and case work. Id be interested in getting their 1st and 2nd fix guns also as im tired of leads and compressor.
I had a question about the 2nd fix gun, if i intended to use it for base/skirt boards and archives which gun should i get?
Iv heard of 16 and 18 gauge. Im confused. Iv even heard of next generation.???
Thanks
Nice. One day it might come the the UK. Wonder if Milwaukee offer a service to re-gas it after a while. HiKOKI did that for my 16g one. It was losing power after a year and they said there's a little valve on board and it can be re pressurised. Came back shooting like new.
You can buy it at Adzy's Goods check Instagram & Facebook :)
Could you please tell me more about regasing the hikoki please. Have the framer which is great but the 16g seems really under powered now. I've had it for almost 2 years. Never new they could be regassed. What did it cost? Thanks in advance
can't wait to get this, but its not avaliable in the UK until the end of the year.
After watching your review,I ordered one.Perfect for the smaller trim work I like to do.
No noisy compressor,no hose to trip over,no storage issues for the hose(how many times have you developed a hole in the hose because it got caught on an object in your shop or on a job site?)
3:25 my 50€ Einhell pin nailer has that toolless depth adjustment knob, I thought it was standard. It‘s pneumatic though, not electric.
I am waiting for comparisons reviews between this and the Makitia 12V pin nailer
The reason I didn't buy one at Home Depot because they simply did not sell the 23 gauge nails. They have plenty of 15, 16 and 18 gauge plus numerous staple options but not one box of 23 gauge. That's Home Depot for you....understaffed and under stocked
I've never had the need for a pin nailer. Brads seem to be small enough for my use.
Yeah, it's a very specific nailer. Basically only for cabinetry.
For the home user, who will rarely use it, but will with projects here and there. Is there a possibility that that nitrogen will just run out even with minimal use?
I’m putting the quarter round back in my mother’s home along the baseboards. Is this adequate to not have to come back with any other heavier nails?
How come they can’t do the double action trigger in all nailers? I would LOVE that!
No need - this is for precise placement with delicate parts. Can you imagine shooting a framing nail across the room?
Ok, maybe not a framing nailer but all finish nailers should have the double trigger..
I hope someone (any brand) makes a 12v 18 gauge
You guys will have to do a complete flex tool review and comparison. There are too many controversial reviews out there
I'm thinking they can be used to shoot broken fractured bones back together again and the pins just stay in because of their small size they're not going to fracture bone
i just got mine!!!
Do you recommend it for a diy type of person
Depends on what you do - woodworker or furniture - YES!
The fact that it will only last four or five years discourages me. I think I’ll stick with my hose and compressor. Good information though
So how do you refill the nitrogen? If at all? Sounds like it needs to be refilled
Would this be okay to use it for building a smaller flowerbed?
Sold but are spare tips available for those of us that occasionally misplace small items ??
thank u sir
nitrogen? i thought it was electric? looks like good tool. nice not having a big air compressor and hose thanks.
I bought a skin only version shortly after it came out, and have been waiting for the US Postal Service to start shipping to Australia again ever since… I would love to have a play with this thing, but sadly mine lives in a closet in my brother’s house in Detroit. :(
Did you ever get it delivered to aus?
@@wvlde not yet. :(
UPS still ship to Australia, not cheap though.
Frustrating that USPS don’t,makes it hard to get things in our end of the world. Couldn’t you do a dodgy through Timbecon ? 😂
@@splinters_66 they do now, it was just when most of the country was closed off to foreign imports. I did a dodgy through my brother instead. ;)
So if someone only uses it once in a while would this last a lifetime ?
After much waiting, I finally have this pinner, and it's great. One thing I notice which may be nothing... I seem to have many more pins go askew and poke out the side one way or the other. Maybe it's coincidence, or maybe I'm just noticing everything with a new tool in a way I don't with my tried & true pneumatic pinner.
But I noticed several going askew in the vid too... do you have the impression you're getting more pokey outies with the new M12?
Will it take 23Ga brad nails with heads? My current pin nailer shoots both head-ed and headless.
NOT Recommended
@@ConcordCarpenter good to know; thanks!
The biggest question I have is how long this pin nailer or other Milwaukee Gen II nailers that uses nitrogen will hold up in terms of very light use and shelf life. I don't want to replace something I'm not using a lot every 3-5 years. lets say I only used 10,000 nails over a period of 5 years. Would the tool lose more pressure through age not just nails fired. I heard these things have seals too that can loosen if they get too hot. That's the biggest most important question I can think of when debating whether to buy these nailers. Not everyone will use it heavily.
If your only using them once in a while save your money and use pneumatic
I'm not buying nitrogen how come it is not a rechargeable pin nailer
I got 2 lemons wont sink all the way anything longer than 1 inch even on pine. Returned them and 3rd one coming hoping i got a winner this time
Can this do baseboards or casing? Not a big fan of how big the other finish nailers in m18 line are.
Hey rob great video love you guys just a quick question what happens after 4 years of use do you send it back and get the nitrogen refill
yes sir - service - recharge. Or replacement if your tough on the tool
Do you think they'll come put with a Fuel version soon?
Pin nailer, stapler, impact driver, jigsaw, and the 4-head install drill. Now Milwaukee has to figure out how to make a 12v router and you can run a cabinetry and furniture business from a backpack.
I have recently picked up this Milwaukee Pin Nailer, but am now wondering who makes the best 23ga Pin Nails? How about a video on different pin nail types and brands?
good idea
@@ConcordCarpenter Excellent! There are so many options, now I have to research nail brands and types! I see there are indoor/outdoor categories, but I see reviews for some brands suggest they use a much softer material and that leads to more jamming etc, while other brands are harder material or stainless, and less prone to jamming. Are there specific reasons for using different material nails? Colors? Etc?
You are a Top Tier information resource, thank you for all your very hard work!
Also: it seems many nail gun manufacturers also sell self branded nails for thier guns, but I doubt most actually produce the nails, instead rebranding someone else's nails. How many unique nail manufacturers actually exist? Who makes who's nails? 😃
I tried the Metabo because they are on sale for 99 at Lowes. Horrible, I returned it the next day. Is the Milwaukee the best cordless on the market? Are any of the others worth looking at?
I see you use headless pins with the nailer having no difficulty setting the nails.
Noissues
How long do you figure it would last with light use? I am a hobbyist and do not expect to put it through heavy use. But I do not want to go buying a new one every few years because the gas got screwed up.
8 years
@@ConcordCarpenter got it, thanks!
Hey rob what’s the lifespan does it need to be service after a certain amount of time or if you don’t have much use of it is it worth buying
yes - I mentioned that - can't remember exactly right now, it's like 70k brads before recahraging
Ok thanks
At 1:55, how thick is that wood that you're pinning on the edge? You mention that the gas charge can fade, can it ever be recharged by an authorized repair center? I don't expect to use it heavily, is it still going to be usable in 6 years?
Maybe 1/4-3/8”. Yes it can be recharged at service center
If the concord gives it the green light then its fine by me. The pin nailer is the only milwaukee gun i dont have. Ill have to change that
WOW that a compliment - thanks Jack Of All
I am laying vinyl plank floor in multiple rooms, then plan to run shoe moulding around the edges, would this M12 Pin nailer be good for that work or would you use a brad nailer?
I’d use a brad or 16 ga finish nailer