NEW M12 Fuel 18 GA. Brad Nailer - Who Needs This?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Just picked up the Milwaukee M12 Brad Nailer 2541-20.
In this video I share the cost, where I bought it, and show how it compares to the M18 to help you decide if it's the right tool for you.
Hope it is useful & THANKS FOR WATCHING!
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I don't need it. I just want it😂
That was kinda my boat 😂
It will be useful, so it is at least a useful want.
I picked up the M18 Fuel Brad Nailer on sale from the local hardware store for $205 today. Thought that was a great deal, so I jumped on it.
That is. It’s a great nailer. Best battery powered one I have used by far
I need both. I just ordered this today. I'm gonna run 1 1/4" in this only. Everything else is going in the m18. As a trim carpenter this is perfect for me
That’s what I’m going to do also. Saves the switching and gives me a compact one if I need it 👍
Agreed on nails size. I was going to jump on it when it first came out but when I read the specs, the max nail size was a deal breaker. Great review as always!
Yeah, it’s what makes it a “not must have”
Appreciate it 👍
I was really excited when Milwaukee released an m12 compact Brad nailer. I was ready to buy it just for its size and weight alone even though my 18v Ryobi is at working great after 7 years. Then I realized that it doesn’t shoot longer nails. I like using a brad nailer for baseboard and casing. I think it would be great for someone who installs a lot of cabinets or is a woodworker or needs to have 2 different guns setup like yourself.
Yeah, I’m curious why they didn’t do 2”. It shoots the 1.5 like nothing, can’t imagine it wouldn’t do it.
Maybe didn’t want it cutting into the M18 sales 🤷♂️
I think it’d be a great woodworking nailer. I have 1 package of 1 1/2” nails I bought for a commission about a year ago, and haven’t used them since lol. I use mainly 5/8” and 1” nails, and this looks about the size of the pneumatic I’m already used to also. But that price….😬
@@Griffinwoodworks it is a bit pricey for sure. Milwaukee always hits high on specialty tools.
Price should have been $229 like the pin nailer. That would make a better use case for the M12. I do want this, but will wait for sale. Crossing fingers for $179 Christmas sale
Maybe a sale, or a free battery where you can hack it
i was excited for this because after having surgery my wrist/hand is weak and weight is a HUGE factor but only shooting up to 1 1/2 brads just seems like a weird way to go. I may grab it if i can do a home depot battery hack with it at some point but i snagged an awesome $300 paslode nailer for like $140 and it is so light that i couldnt justify also buying the m12 at this point.
I didn’t have any other tools on my radar in this price range that pushed it to a later purchase… and I’m a big less weight if possible person too.
I think I will use it fairly often… and maybe it will prolong the life of my M18 (in case you need a tip for justification 😂)
@07:49 Remember the old Senco all metal brad nailers and they topped out at 1&5/8” and I know of a lot of tradesmen that got by with that. Company supplied, and for crown moulding and custom stuff I had to spring for a P/C out of pocket, that shot 2” nails.
I would say if a person could get by on the 1&1/2” limit, the M12 is smaller and more manageable in tight corners and all. But if a person has lots of Money, say like a ‘Joey Morgan,’ well then, have the M12 and the M18! 😯 😆 J/K Joey J/K
Great stuff and stay safe out there!
I said It’s a luxury tool… and I live in luxury 😂😂
You can do a lot with 1-1/2 nails. I would even think if someone had a 16 gauge nailer but wanted a Brad nailer… this would be a good option. Use your 16 for long nails and this one for shorter.
I'd be mainly using it for jigs, back panels, and other small tasks, so the shorter nails aren't really an issue. If I were to get an 18v I'd probably just stick to the DeWalt one then. M12 has a lot of smaller tools that make their 12V platform a lot more interesting and a good option as a second battery system.
@@1steelcobra 👍👍.. that is why I like the M12 myself.
I'm not sure we do enough nailing. Staples, yes; nails, no. I will see what Sonia says, as she does more building. We'd consider the M12, but at 18V are very invested in Ryobi; how is their nailer?
I had Ryobi’s pen nailer and I loved it. I just swapped to the M18 because it was smaller and for less batteries to keep up with. I’ve heard good things about their other nailers though
I have the Ryobi brushless 18 gauge. It's outstanding. A bit bulky, but still beats lugging around a compressor. Needs a 4ah battery though.
Nice to hear. We probably have 10-12 4AH Ryobi batteries.
That's the longest "Honey, I already have the same tool, but I really needed this one" I've ever seen :)
Good comparison.
I had just told her the day before I didn’t think I was going to buy it, then I went to my local store and the box was sitting there 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance I wish Milwaukee (TTI) was less greedy, BTW.
@@Stefan_Kawalec me too… I have a feeling they didn’t allow this to shoot 2” so M18 sales didn’t fall out completely. Seeing this shoot the 1.5”, I can’t imagine it wouldn’t have done 2”.
I could be wrong, that’s just me thinking out loud.
Thanks for posting this. I was just wondering about it. And your reviews are the only ones I trust, since you’re honest, actually use your tools for work, and I never feel like you’re trying to sell something. 👍
Appreciate that. Yeah I pretty much only buy or get tools sent to me that I would use.
I try to just give the information to hopefully help someone make their own decision. We all do things a little differently, what works for one person doesn’t always work for everyone.
Lol
@@jnmc-vx4fw What's LOL?
I cant stand it cause milwaukee could hv make this nailer 1/2 inch or an inch longer so it can shoot 2 inch nail. Or create m18 gen 3 that is lighter and smaller
@@freddie966woo Agree. I think this has the power to shoot 2” myself… it has zero issues with 1.5”. I could be wrong, but I think it could.
💯 would’ve bought this with 2” capacity
Very stupid, y not 2inch I would have bought this asap nut no
I've had the m18 for many years, I don't think it's misfired a single time. Got the m12 a couple weeks ago, it's my go to when I don't need longer nails.
I’m the same with the M18. It’s been the best Brad nailer I’ve ever used 👍
I actually don't own a milwaukee nailer currently I have used plenty of them. Ryobi really does this well and for ussaly half the price. I do see value in this one for the size price be darned. I ussaly vote for ryobi brad nailers brushed are fine hp is better ($99 to $140 on sale). For outfitting a crew each employee can have a 15g and 18g for around 230 to 300ish what a deal. That's the cost of 1 milwaukee gun. If I was a homeowner or a small contractor I would just go ryobi and open yourself to a useful world of tools unless you specifically need a tiny brad nailer like this (plus the ryobi portaband is 1/3 to half the price of milwaukee or dewalt).
Well said. Ryobi has its place.
Indeedy ryobi has its place even in a professional contractor relm not all tools but they do some things really well
Well, that was very helpful...unless you want to avoid spending money... 🤣 The size comparison is really striking because for years every time I pick up the M18 brad nailer I think "why didn't they do this on the M12 platform?" And now they have. Weight and size are really persuasive. As you said, the only deal breaker is situations where you need >1.5" brads. The M12 pin nailer and brad nailer fit nicely into one of the Packout cooler-shape toolboxes.
The size is great… I’m surprised they didn’t let it shoot 2”… it has zero problems with 1.5”
Didn’t want to affect M18 sales I guess 😂
Just received mine last week. It’s surely great for tight use and cabinet installation. Beats the m18 nailer
I would still need the M18 for some of my work for the longer nails, but I think I will get good use out of it
What’s the verdict for a hobbyist woodworker that’s only in the m12 line? It’s a bit pricey where it currently sits, so I’d definitely have to wait for a sale.
If you only have M12 and do woodworking I think it would be a good fit. The 2” nail for me is only usually needed when I’m going through other materials between wood like drywall etc.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Thank you for the insight, much appreciated!
@@BobbyO-ko4dk 👍
yes! was waiting for this one brother
👍👍… I hope it’s all you dreamed it would be 😂
I bought my M18 version for the same price $249 home depot in store.I'll stick with that because of the ability to use longer nails.Nice little nailer though.
Yeah, it being on sale right now makes that price seem even worse. If I didn’t have the M18 and could only have one… that’s what I would get too.
Great video. Appreciate it
@@landonlakes4782 you are welcome 👍👍
Maybe someone can have a tool only deal like Home Depot did with the new M12 circ saw that was $99 dollars tool only! Ever since I bought my 18ga crown stapler I haven’t really used my 18ga brad nailer, I tend to go for the stapler over brad nails now. Maybe Milwaukee will come out with an M12 18ga crown stapler!
Maybe… you never know.
I would like to get the crown stapler myself. If I ever catch a good deal.
Do want ! I like the small form factor ; I also think it will play well with the 23 ga . Pin nailer ! Personally , I find most M18 tools are just flat added too big and clumsy !
I will still need my M18, but I feel this will be a good addition
@@MORGANSMaintenance Kinda like a “ Pocket Pistol , Vs. A Full blown service Pistol , both are usefull , but one is a lot easier to schlep around !
@@chrisfyfe9212 true
@@MORGANSMaintenance Sir ; you prolly know this already ; but I bring to your attention a wonder adhesive ( Miter bond ) , a little dab will do you !
@@chrisfyfe9212 I just started using it in the last few years, it is a great product for trims 👍
Excellent review with a good practical demonstration. As a finish carpenter I like to nail casing to jambs with 1-1/2 brads and 2-1/2” 16g. About the only time I use 2” brads is for 9/16 colonial base or oak show that integrates under neckbase. This new gun is definitely fits my style!
I thought of that after… the M12 only would be a good fit for someone who owns a 16 gauge and wants a Brad nailer 👍👍
I have the same concerns of brad length and price; however, I am a bit crippled, so 2lbs. is a lot lighter for me. $250 bare tool is too high though.
I’ll be glad I have it.. but agree it seems a bit pricey 👍
Great review!
Appreciate it 👍
I want thoes clips for m12 stapler/installation driver they don't sell them separately even on spare parts sites. They are worlds better than the m12 impact tiny one and they fit! Any leads on oem ones let me know.
They are good. It’s one of my favorite things about the Installation Driver
For the negatives why did it take nearly a year to come out! I was excited to get it when I saw it and who am I kidding I'm still getting it. The price your paying for the size and using the smaller battery platform. I can get another of m18 stuff cheaper than m12 but guess what we still all buy rhe m12 impact/surge. The 23g m12 pin nailer never had much use for 23g so this 18g will be much more useful. For me I pack alot into a packout ammo (apartment install tools jigsaw ossilating tool m12 fuel saw) can and I think I can add this in there where's any bigger no way. The milwaukee tax is high and even higher for m12 fuel kinda have to accept it. As for the brad size set your expectations 1.5 can do most everything besides 1x sheetrock then stud but at that point isn't a 18g really weak. I call this a win smallest and still gets the job done ussaly is the winner 🏆.
That’s why I decided to get it… the 1-1/2” will work a lot. I work with 5/8” drywall a lot, and 3/4 trim.. but I tend to get out my 16 for that anyway.
I think I will get good use out of it. I also figure by the time my M18 kicks the bucket there will be a new version I will want anyway
I got bauer one and in works really good
👍👍.. I haven’t tried any Harbor Freight Power tools yet… battery powered anyways. I have bought some corded ones for jobs
Will this m12 brad nailer fight in a 48-22-8435 packout?? I'm able to fight my m12 23ga in that packout
@@John-mv7wu I will check today and let you know. I’m doing a live today, if I remember I will check during it and send you a time stamp
@@John-mv7wu it doesn’t fit.. I show it in my Live “most expensive tool”
For $249, it’s a pass for me and my usage. I like all my M12 Fuel tools and lights, but I just don’t use a nailer often enough. This is why I bought a Ryobi Airstrike 16 ga nailer. No issues with it plus I don’t have to break out my compressor and air nailers.
I had a Ryobi Pin nailer before I bought the M12, it was a good nailer 👍
Can it shoot 1/2 inch nails like ones for ikea back pieces?
@@mr_DIY the shortest nail is 5/8, but the heads on 18 gauge trim nails usually just shoot right through cardboard type material. I’m not sure about IKEA but the nails on most put together furniture have heads on them so they don’t easily pull through if the back gets pushed on.
I would think if you wanted to do something like that with a nail gun you would have to switch to a narrow crown stapler.
@@MORGANSMaintenance thanks for idea, will check them out
@@mr_DIY 👍
I only have m12 batteries and have ordered this, but I’m having second thoughts due to the limited nail length compatibility. I’m a DIYer and looking to do a home renovation. Will 1 1/2” nails be adequate for installing baseboards? Am I better off returning this and getting the M18 Brad nailer keeping in mind that I don’t have other M18 tools?
It will depend on the baseboard and drywall thickness… which is typically 5/8” & 1/2” in homes - so you will have 3/8” -1/2” of nail going into your stud depending on how deep your nail sets.
That will likely hold just fine on base. Ideally you would have a little more, buy you don’t have gravity pulling it down. It’s when you get into thicker baseboards and 5/8 drywall that it won’t make it.
I’m not sure how much it would cost to get a battery for the M18.. but I think it would also matter if you saw any other M18 purchases in your future. Even if it’s not “tools”…Like all my home yard equipment is M18, etc.
I didn’t say it in the video, but thought of it later… this gun would be a good fit for someone who had a 16 Gauge (or 15) and not a 18 gauge Brad Nailer. You would then have the thicker longer nails when you need them, but a compact nailer when you don’t.
I say that because you could keep the M12 since that’s your main tool line.. but if you don’t see any M18 purchases in your future, you could buy a Ryobi 16 gauge nailer or something cheaper that comes with a battery (That’s if you don’t want to spend M18 Money)
The nice thing about 16 gauge is you can get exterior nails easier for working outside
That’s a lot of extra info.. I’m just thinking of since you run M12 tools only.. I would think this will work for a lot of things you will be doing, but maybe not 100% which may result in you needing another tool. As a DIYer, if you stay with the M12 and that happened in the future…I would compliment it with a 16 or 15 gauge nailer, and not a Brad Nailer that only shoots longer nails
@@MORGANSMaintenance I appreciate the reply.
That’s a good point. I’m now considering biting the bullet and grabbing a 15ga M18 nailer. That way I am covered for most interior work and can do some exterior work too.
I’m also on the 18V Festool platform, but their line of tools, although excellent, are pretty limited (no nailers for instance). Having batteries on both systems should give me better options I guess?
@@ghas4151 I would stay M18/M12 if you don’t mind spending the money
The chargers all work together, etc. I’ve run a lot of different brands over the years, but since I switched to Milwaukee I haven’t ran into much they don’t cover. That M18 15 gauge nailer is really good. It’s a deal of the day today… I’m thinking of buying it myself. (I have used it, a guy I work with has it) it’s the only battery powered nailer I don’t have
www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Gen-2-15GA-Finish-Nailer-Tool-Only-w-Tinted-Anti-Scratch-Safety-Glasses-2839-20-48-73-2015/320193203
@@MORGANSMaintenance I put my order in for the M18FN15GA. Will be keeping hold of the M12 for now. I’ll be using it more for trim on trim and cabinet work, while the 15GA will be used for fastening to wall studs. 👍
@@ghas4151 👍👍. The 15 gauge is a good gun. I don’t own it, but I’ve used one of my buddies quite often when we work together.
I’d appreciate some feedback on which way to go. I currently have a 15 and 18 ga. pneumatic nailer and am looking to get a cordless. I’ve been leaning towards a 16 gauge as it fills in between the others. In my current cordless setup I’ve got mostly dewalt 20v and batteries whereas Milwaukee in the M12 line. Im leaning towards this new M12 18 ga though as it fits the batteries I have with Milwaukee and if I need to go bigger than 1 1/2 nails I could always use the pneumatic. Or should I just go with 16 ga. Dewalt? Appreciate any feedback.
I think if I was willing to buy 2 nailers and was starting over. I may go with this M12 and either a 15 or 16 for longer nails.. (probably a 16 for myself, but that depends on what you do)
If I could only have one, I’d go with a 16.
That’s just my opinion. I’ve also used Dewalt and Milwaukee Nailers… the Milwaukee are the best cordless nailers I’ve used (another opinion)
@@MORGANSMaintenance thank you for your helpful advice. I think I’ll stick with this M12 since i have batteries that work in it right now and work up to getting the 16 ga. later if I find I need it.
@@MORGANSMaintenance would you buy the 16 ga in angled or straight?
Either works for me, but an angled one will let you get in more places.
I would also check my local stores and see which nails they stock. Some places you can get both, some it’s one or the other. You don’t want to get into a situation where you have to order nails online all the time
@@MORGANSMaintenance thanks again. I opted for the straight. The nails are more available and cheaper even though the gun itself ended up being a few $ more. If I get into I situation where I need the angled I still have my 15 gauge pneumatic.
Wait till you see the price ine the uk, £350 ($444 usd) for the m12, £300 for the m18 (both bare) hilariously overpriced. Still want one tho, just not at that price
@@mcintosh233 I would definitely go M18 in that scenario.. it is a nice gun though.
@@MORGANSMaintenance i only have 12v in milwaukee use festool 18v. There must be some hefty import duties as it seems unusually expensive, It's more than the festool hkc 55 circ saw (£329) which just seems crazy to me.
@@mcintosh233 yeah, maybe it will come down after it’s been released for awhile
$691 NZD skin only for M12, we're ripped off when it comes to tools in New Zealand!!!
Can it fit the larger m12 batteries?
Yeah you can put whatever battery you want in it. I wouldn’t recommend standing it up anyways, but it is more tippy with the bigger ones when setting on the battery
Why wouldn't you nail the reveal first???
I may sometimes, I was just using that example because I had the m18 in my hand. I usually just do whichever nail I have loaded in my gun before I switch
@MORGANSMaintenance just seems to me it would be hard to keep the margin that way. Thanks!
@@leonardpaciora5039 It probably is 👍
Gained a follower, great break down thru and thru
@@LiveLaughLOVE-lk1ci appreciate it 👍👍. Glad to have you
This things $180 at my home depot right now
@@ligitmuffin I will see if they change it at mine. You can normally take your receipt in and they will refund the difference.
I’d buy it all day at $180 (if I needed it)
In Canada they’re $338 plus tax
Sheeww… that’s a lot of money
@@MORGANSMaintenance yep it is.
But after using the m18 brad nailer to assemble cabinets I needed this. Lighter and just as good
@@codyreid952 the Milwaukee nailers have been the best performing battery nailers I’ve used. Really quick, never any jambs, not very loud.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I agree
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Great informative video as always but it's a no from me
I can get in your wallet every time 😂
Appreciate it 👍
1.5" brads simply aren't long enough to justify carrying this _and_ the M18.
They will work for a lot of stuff… but I agree, it’s a luxury item in my opinion. Just depends on your Brad nail usiage
❤Good tools , I have the earlier iteration !
Im an electrician and i don’t need this, buuuut…
How else will you shoot a lone Brad nail into some Romex for that service call money…. Looks like your trim guy shot into the wire 😂😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance Whos this BRAD and why is he causing problems! always SHOOTING his mouth off
@@MattHmm-rq6dn 😂😂