I'm still flying an original brushed mCPx and crash it every flight! It's hit the deck a hundred times and still comes back for more. Amazingly durable.
Blade needs to re-visit tail booms...coffee stirring sticks are out. The BL2 is a nice copter, but honestly for $49 more, the OMP M1 Evo is probably a better buy now.
Nice review. I bought a BNF BL2 last month (to fit a scale Bell 407 body on) and since I'm very new to CP I also bought a BNF Nano S3 to train with. My Nano is tamed down and is alot of fun to fly. I'm now flying my BL2 with the same settings/file that I use for the Nano and it's equally as enjoyable with more available power. Another reason I went with the BL2 is the availability of a 4-blade rotor head from RAKON (which should be arriving any day now). I have no worries flying my BL2 in my living room. It's all about matching the heli with what you plan to use it for.
That’s awesome! The BL2 Definitely a good little helicopter and will work perfect for what you were going to do with it. The best part about there being so many helicopters on the market is everybody can fly with a like! I like them all and they all have a different purpose from each other it is hard for me to only fly one brand and they all have their place!
I purchased a BL2 several months ago and it's a "good" heli. I just ordered a M1. The BNF BL2 cost $199.00 and I spent an additional $20.00 for (2) batteries (The BL2 does not include a battery) and $50.00-$75.00 for RAKON Alum swashplate, head and blade grips. So we're looking at approx $300.00. My M1 was priced at $249.00 and comes standard with alum swash, head, grips and a battery. There are very few micro-heli's that can match the quality of OMP (My 1-month old M2 Explore is amazing). Had I researched the M1 I would've found that I can bind it to my Spektrum radio with a sub-$20.00 satellite receiver.
In my opinion there is no better micro helicopter than the M1 and M2. You will not find another micro helicopter that has the same build quality and incredible flight performance. I have not flown my BL2 since I got my M1. Yes you can use a spektrum satellite
Ive had the m2 for a while and just got the M1. Soo glad I did. Amazing quality on both. Im just now getting to where I can fly without auto leveling on both of them and my 330s. Ive crashed the m1 3 times in the grass and on carpet with no damage. Mild crashes with 60 throttle curve tho. I think the m1 is great for someone learning CP helis.
The M2 and M1 are both incredible helicopters! I tell everybody if you’re into RC helicopters you should have both in your collection or at least one or the other! They really have change the game in the helicopter world. Especially on the micro and small helicopter side. I really can’t wait for the M5! Super excited on that one!
@@DetoursRC yes they are! It will be released hopefully in March or April! I am super excited for it! I’ve seen some leaked pictures and man it’s perfect!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 oh man its gonna be totally awesome no doubt. And intimidating for me😂. You see how much power the m1 and m2 have. The M5 will likely be the same. Anyway Im gonna put some money aside and hopefully get my hands on one. Lol
The BL2 is a trainer helicopter, the lack of technological advancement in it is a testament to that. It can do some light to moderate 3D, but it is mainly meant to be a trainer. The M1 on the other hand is meant to absolutely go right up there with all the bigger helicopters. It can do all the same tricks, it can fly just as hard as the big helicopters. It's a 3D powerhouse. They actually put a technology inside if its ESC to overcome the biggest shortcoming of the helicopter, it's direct drive fixed pitch tail. It's called TALY or torque aided left yaw where the rotor head will actually speed up in order to keep the yaw rate consistent clockwise and counter clockwise and to keep the tail heading straight in times of low disk loading. It emulates what a belt drive, collective pitch tail can do making the M1 a fully fledged high performance 3D machine that can compete with any big heli vs the BL2 which is ultimately just a trainer heli, an indoor flyer on a bad weather day maybe.
Nothing wrong with that at all! I flew a JR 9303 with a spektrum module for years! Still have the radio and it still works great! Great to see you get back into the hobby!
I have version 1 of the mcpx bl . It is by far very stable and good power. I can do my flips and hover upside down. The tail holds well. I regular mcpx which I also own is more difficult to fly. The tail will blow out when trying to flip it.
I just ordered some but ended up crashing the M1 the day after this video and broke the main frame and canopy so ordered new canopy and main frame. So for the new canopy I’ll have the M2 grommets when they tear
I have the mcpx bl2 and nano s3 they flight great handle 3D all day long with no issues But it’s a micro helicopter I will compare the m1 with the blade 150s pretty close to the same helicopter size with the huge advantage of forward programming on the 150s I have mine bind to a nx8 radio couple of tweaks on the setup and it will blow out of the water any m1 in performance and 3D maneuvers Price around 200 dollars or u can get a 230 s for around 230 dollars much more helicopter with the same programming capabilities btw great video
I have the nano S2 as well as the BL2 and had the 150s and have still have the 230s V1 and V2. Now the 150 is more comparable to the M2 but will still not even come close to the performance and power of the M1 or M2. The 230s is a great beginner helicopter but that’s about it. Does not fly great and does not do hard 3D well at all. No power cheap plastic head and frame lots of slop. I had the 150 and sold it about a month after buying it. Was not impressed one bit. Flys very heavy and lacks power. Sure forward programming is nice but I would much rather have the OMP line up over the blade in the smaller helis. Not only flight performance but power and DD as well as build! The build is incredible with OMP unlike Blade. Also the FBL with OMP is 100 times the FBL blade uses in any heli. But to each there own. As long as your flying and happy that’s all that matters!
I say m1 is definitely made for outdoors. The mcpx bl2 has less power but it's lighter so it needs less head speed, it's great for indoors. You can fly the m1 indoors but the blades dug through my drywall lol! Both have their places. Both are capable fliers. Obviously the heavier and more powerful m1 can handle the wind better. Also I'd like to point out that I do break my m1 tail on a bad crash, that's kinda expected since it has a lot of power. The m1 is for a more experienced 3d pilot, while the mcpx is for people who is just starting the hobby, since it's more forgiving on crashes, has lower head speed, and it's lighter. If you are the type to buy an mcpx and put aluminum and carbon fiber "upgrades" then just skip it and move on to the m1, because you are missing the point of durability and cheap repairs.
The BL2 was great for its time but long due for updating, not a bad heli at all but FBL board definitely needs help and has its weird issues. The M1 is definitely A better flying performer and all around great heli for its size and can be tamed down to fly as a beginner or Advanced machine. Yes it does not hold up is good in a crash as the BL2 but definitely out flies it in terms just flight performance and stability.
Hi, thanks for the review. Think it's swung me in favour of the M1. Do you know if I can use my DX6i that I use for all my Blade heli's with the M1(or M2)? Or do you need a 3 position flight mode switch (DX6i has 2 position FM switch)?
The M1 is a fantastic model. You definitely picked a good one! Yes you can use your DX6i and a two position flight mode switch. You don’t need three positions you just won’t have two different head speeds.
Setup is in the radio but you can always change FBL settings. The BL2 is fixed to what it is but the OMP can be adjusted. I have a video on how to do it.
The mcpx is my go to heli..I have many others but this that one is my favorite..still need to get me the m1 ..I fly my m2 daily but I bought some guerilla glue apoxy,took that and coated my frame with it ..that way if I ever have another accident. It's good to go .I have microheli frames on some of them ,but stalk flys the best. Some guys drill holes in the frame and replace the pegs with carbon fiber rodes ..haven't tried that yet .but the mcpx is a flemsy bastard,for sure ,but fun
The bill to was great for its time but in all honesty I have not flown since I got the M1 lol two totally different machines incredible performance in flight characteristics out of the M1 in my opinion. I never upgraded the BL2 or nano or heli like that as they get heavy and break just as easy
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I still fly both but not as much sense it got cold out ..ya some things are better than others on the upgrades ..I found a good combo on one of mine but to do all of it is to heavy especially frame and skids
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I think the bl2 is still great ,,but when people ask me what they should buy,I tell them the m1 every time ,I don't want to see people get hurt or ripped off..and you know as well as I do every time a guy buys a blade product to feel resintment later or the bad end of a deal , because the prematurely fail..and they do all the time when you thought it should of flew longer it,it doesn't ..you got to love blade I think to buy them still..and I do ..but I'm not gonna Deni there is better out there
How do you bind the Radiomaster Tx16 to BL2 or a helicopter like blade 230? Which receiver do you use? I looked them up but could not find much info. Thanks!
I've had both and the mcpx bl2 is far better for my needs, a 30 x 80 foot small area, plus a little bigger area too. If it came down to price alone the M1 wins easily as far as what you get. The M1 is an awesome heli, no doubt, it's smooth, precise, powerful, adjustable (I had to take my cyclic gains to 1) and fairly tough. It flies more similarly to my Trex 150x. It could have been the small profile and huge power, but something never felt right about it to me. I got an mcpx bl2 and it's one of my favorites. I've crashed it many, many times. The following mods make it very crash resistant : titanium main shaft (microheli), aluminum swashplate (MH, optional rear swash guide), solid tail boom with some rigged supports to landing skids (its ugly but strong so far), better main and grip bearings (the bent aluminum shaft probably killed my upper bearing). After doing these mods the dry weight is 58 grams and AUW is 72g with a 200mAh pack and 80g with a 350mAh M1 pack and adapter. I mounted the canopy directly to the AIO board and landing skids with EPP foam and some rubber type glue. It can be pulled off easily and glued back on. The stock frame is very brittle, so far I've broken all the canopy pins, the lower servo mount for the left servo (the servo and broken mount are glued to the frame with rubber type glue), the tail boom boss is split a bit (but glue fills it in nicely without the wires in the way). I have a cut down 65mm Gemfan quadcopter blade tail blade that seems to work better for me. It may have been the big heli feel, but whatever inexplicable quality it was it made me not truly enjoy flying my M1.
Awesome mods to your BL2! They both have there plus and minuses. The BL was definitely a fun little helicopter and I still enjoy mine. But I do find myself not flying it as much since I got the M1. I definitely enjoy the M1 much more in flies much better for my needs. I definitely am going to try that tail blade, How far did you cut it down?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 they definitely help toughen it up, the aluminum shaft bent easily for me. I had a nice tail first crash today and bent my fin, but the boom is still strong. I cut it to 52mm. The shaft is 1.4mm and my local hardware store didnt have the right size drill bit so I used a 1.2mm Allen key to ream it out after drilling a few mm with a 1.5mm bit. The green blades are good for visibility too. I use one on my XK K110 too. Full length with a bigger 8520 coreless motor on a short boom. It was a great improvement.
Love your vids, you tell it how it is, ive changed to radiomaster, its gimbles are beutifull, ive got the fpv bug now and the express lrs rx's are so so small and easy once you have brought the jr module for t16s, best thing is, they do a pwm converter that the Matek rx solders to so you can use for helis. keep the videos coming bud! Respect from uk
Thank you very much! I greatly appreciate the kind words. I made sure that I tried to build my channel on honesty and giving people actual feedback not like most TH-cam channels out there. Everybody gets caught in the free stuff and doesn’t give you the honest opinion and I’ve seen way too many reviews of the deal to but I’ll great and fantastic it is and I just wanted to share my personal experience with it vs the OMP M1!
Realy nice review. I like both of them. I am using a openTX transmitter too. Would you share your openTX setting file for the BL2 ? That would be great. Greetings Christian
That can be a tough question, so what are your plans for the future? I tell everyone to always buy the biggest radio you can afford. The TX16S is an incredible radio for the money! You get so much radio for “cheap” it’s been fantastic and flawless for me. I’ve got thousands of flights on mine already and will recommend it to anyone. With that being said programming can be pretty difficult especially if you don’t know what you’re doing or it’s new to completely setting up a radio. But if you’ve never programmed any other radio you could definitely learn relatively quickly. You definitely get a lot more radio with the TX16S than the NX6 but both will do great for you. If you want the simplicity of radio set up and binding fly style in the future I would go Spektrum
@@westhobbiesrc8051 yes, simplicity is actually what I prefer, I want to e able to change head speed and gains. Future plans, I really want to learn some 3d. Thaks for the help
I don’t have a Trex 150 or flown one but a good friend of mine does and he has the M1 as well and said night day over the Trex 150. He is selling the Trex 150 and buying a second M1
I went from a 150x to a m1. I’m a beginner and only fly circuits for now but the m1 is way easier for me to fly. I had to dial in a ton of negative expo but it flys so much smother than the 150x and is way less twitchy/darty and much more predictable
So it will be a good transitioner heli from my Nano S3 to the. M1? Also should my DX6 bind the same way my S3 or CFX does or is there some other way it binds? PS I really do appreciate your videos
@@targetoz5470 thank you very much for watching and enjoying the channel! Yes it will be a great steppingstone also look into the Goosky S2! Hands-down best micro helicopter on the planet. It is the same size as the blade 180 CFX butterflies like nothing you’ve ever flown before. For either the M1 or the S2 you will need a DSMX satellite to bind it to your DX6. Get the Kensun DSMX satellite as it has a bind button.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Goosky S2, I’ve already got 2 180CFX’s is the Goosky the same size as the 180cfx? I did the opposite of what most people do. Bought a Goblin 380, 2 180cfx, Nano s3, fixed pitch micro and a flight sim. I’m flying the cfx on the flight sim while I’m flying my s3, to scared to fly the cfx for now, that’s why I want something to fill the gap between the nano and the cfx, I’ll trust your opinion on what to get next, thoughts?
@@targetoz5470 yes the S2 is pretty much the same size is the 180 CFX it’s actually slightly bigger, but it flies incredible. The M one is a nice model my only complaint is tail blowout. If you start getting hard on it you will lose the tail every time and all three of my crashes with that model were because of tail blow out. So I always recommend the S2 because I have hundreds of whites on it and it has just been flawless zero complaints and parts are still extremely cheap.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 my grommets on the M1 wore out and broke quickly also. I got some of the microheli ones to see how they hold up. They fit good. I tried the m2 ones but I was too lazy to try and force them in I guess. Lol
@@westhobbiesrc8051 If you read the forums, the BL2 has problems with the control board. It tends to become glitchy after a couple of crashes, where the heli suddenly starts banking by itself. I don't think it's a good heli. If someone is a beginner and is afraid of crashing, they should get the Nano or K110. If they aren't concerned about crashing, then I would skip the BL2 and go to the M1.
I have read a lot of forms. I’ve had a few crashes and zero problems with it. Just like anything they are electronics and can have probably. I learned a long time ago just because people have problems don’t mean you will. Of course there is other options and different micro helis out there. The BL2 is good for what it is but M1 is far better in every way. Never owned or messed with the XK helicopters so can’t say but do own a few nanos and while they are fun for in the house that about it.
comparing apples and oranges here. bl2 is designed for learning and crashing. the m1 is designed for precise flying which is fine but wont take a hit the same way.
No comparison.. really the omp out does it by all ..I can do funnels better on my bl2 tho til sloppy rear servo hit it..cheap HH junk..sorry I thought you meant the m2 ...I don't have the m1 ..the problems with the bl2 I've had was that big canopy holds to much heat in and Frys the board if over flone.and tail motor only last me 30 flites. I bought the m2 to replace it .but then I went back out and bought a new bl2 cause it's the first copter I learned to invert on so I got a special place in my heart for it ..I don't think it flys like the nano tho ..it has alot more power than thos
OMP for me as well, just a fantastic design and well thought out. The FBL and flight performance is fantastic on the M1 or M2. My broad is going bad on my BL2 now. It went crazy and almost flew away and shut off about 200ft up and just fell back to the ground and broke the main frame (repair video coming soon)
@@westhobbiesrc8051 the range sucks on my bl2 40 meters is all.. I keep burning tail motors out of my mcpx...good thing they cheap to buy.. wonderful practice heli..I give it that..but the m2 is just insanity fast
Nobody can feel the "old technology" that is on the MCPX, so it can't be really be counted as a disadvantage. The new technology that is more important nowadays is telemetry and a 3-axis gyro that really works....and the MCPX have them both. On the other hand, the OMP M1 does not have telemetry when using the S-FHSS protocol, and when using the OMP protocol with telemetry you lose control of the throttle....That's not the "new technology" I would call advantageous.
You can 100% feel the difference between new modes and old models. You fly a MCPX and then fly a M1 you can feel the difference between the MCPX FBL and the M1 FBL. Telemetry is not the “new” technology. Better chips, faster processors, better servos, better frame design, more rigid head, frame and swash and the list goes on.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes, I can feel how the Nano S3 FBL system is a lot better than the 1st gen Nano CPX. I haven't tried the new MCPX BL2 in person, but I presume the same is true between it and the original MCPX. Yes, I agree telemetry is not the "new" technology, but it is at least a necessity. Not having telemetry is inexcusable when you care about not killing your flight battery, because having a timer is not that reliable when you happen to grab a partially charged battery pack.
Since there both a similar size and people ask all the time witch one should they get or witch ones better. The M1 hands down but every one like what they like.
No, there is a lot more difference than just price. Yes the M1 is a little bit more expensive but you are getting a quality machine aluminum parts metal gear servos million times better FBL
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OMP 1 is the winner in every dimensions... it's incomparable ‼️
I'm still flying an original brushed mCPx and crash it every flight! It's hit the deck a hundred times and still comes back for more. Amazingly durable.
Wow! That’s great, my old MCPX would break the swash after a few crashes then would break the main frame lol still have it but never fly it.
Blade needs to re-visit tail booms...coffee stirring sticks are out. The BL2 is a nice copter, but honestly for $49 more, the OMP M1 Evo is probably a better buy now.
Nice review. I bought a BNF BL2 last month (to fit a scale Bell 407 body on) and since I'm very new to CP I also bought a BNF Nano S3 to train with. My Nano is tamed down and is alot of fun to fly. I'm now flying my BL2 with the same settings/file that I use for the Nano and it's equally as enjoyable with more available power. Another reason I went with the BL2 is the availability of a 4-blade rotor head from RAKON (which should be arriving any day now). I have no worries flying my BL2 in my living room. It's all about matching the heli with what you plan to use it for.
That’s awesome! The BL2 Definitely a good little helicopter and will work perfect for what you were going to do with it. The best part about there being so many helicopters on the market is everybody can fly with a like! I like them all and they all have a different purpose from each other it is hard for me to only fly one brand and they all have their place!
Hello sir can you please help me,what is you’re settings for the nano s3,thank you
I purchased a BL2 several months ago and it's a "good" heli. I just ordered a M1. The BNF BL2 cost $199.00 and I spent an additional $20.00 for (2) batteries (The BL2 does not include a battery) and $50.00-$75.00 for RAKON Alum swashplate, head and blade grips. So we're looking at approx $300.00. My M1 was priced at $249.00 and comes standard with alum swash, head, grips and a battery. There are very few micro-heli's that can match the quality of OMP (My 1-month old M2 Explore is amazing). Had I researched the M1 I would've found that I can bind it to my Spektrum radio with a sub-$20.00 satellite receiver.
In my opinion there is no better micro helicopter than the M1 and M2. You will not find another micro helicopter that has the same build quality and incredible flight performance. I have not flown my BL2 since I got my M1. Yes you can use a spektrum satellite
Ive had the m2 for a while and just got the M1. Soo glad I did. Amazing quality on both. Im just now getting to where I can fly without auto leveling on both of them and my 330s. Ive crashed the m1 3 times in the grass and on carpet with no damage. Mild crashes with 60 throttle curve tho. I think the m1 is great for someone learning CP helis.
The M2 and M1 are both incredible helicopters! I tell everybody if you’re into RC helicopters you should have both in your collection or at least one or the other! They really have change the game in the helicopter world. Especially on the micro and small helicopter side. I really can’t wait for the M5! Super excited on that one!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 M5!!? Are they coming out with one?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 if they release an m5 I will absolutely buy it immediately. Lol. I love how OMPs helis and parts are almost always in stock too.
@@DetoursRC yes they are! It will be released hopefully in March or April! I am super excited for it! I’ve seen some leaked pictures and man it’s perfect!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 oh man its gonna be totally awesome no doubt. And intimidating for me😂. You see how much power the m1 and m2 have. The M5 will likely be the same. Anyway Im gonna put some money aside and hopefully get my hands on one. Lol
The BL2 is a trainer helicopter, the lack of technological advancement in it is a testament to that. It can do some light to moderate 3D, but it is mainly meant to be a trainer. The M1 on the other hand is meant to absolutely go right up there with all the bigger helicopters. It can do all the same tricks, it can fly just as hard as the big helicopters. It's a 3D powerhouse. They actually put a technology inside if its ESC to overcome the biggest shortcoming of the helicopter, it's direct drive fixed pitch tail. It's called TALY or torque aided left yaw where the rotor head will actually speed up in order to keep the yaw rate consistent clockwise and counter clockwise and to keep the tail heading straight in times of low disk loading. It emulates what a belt drive, collective pitch tail can do making the M1 a fully fledged high performance 3D machine that can compete with any big heli vs the BL2 which is ultimately just a trainer heli, an indoor flyer on a bad weather day maybe.
No contest for me. Especially with the new M1 Evo.
Once you get used to the M1s powerband, its very tough to go back to other micros. Such direct feel.
Been out the game for a while. Just bought the M2 and running a JR 9X II with Spektrum TX/RX upgrade.
Yep I'm old school
Nothing wrong with that at all! I flew a JR 9303 with a spektrum module for years! Still have the radio and it still works great! Great to see you get back into the hobby!
I have version 1 of the mcpx bl . It is by far very stable and good power. I can do my flips and hover upside down. The tail holds well. I regular mcpx which I also own is more difficult to fly. The tail will blow out when trying to flip it.
Very nice, the BL2 is a fun little heli! I still fly mine sometimes especially when doing indoor flying perfect for that!
Yeah I got the omphobby m2 explore helicopter made some changes on my m2 looks a lot different changes that I made looks cool love it
Very nice! What kind of changes did you make?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 just visited my TH-cam channel you find my changes on it
Checking out your channel now!
Both great with plenty of upgrades and mods.
M1 needs zero upgrades. BL2 well yeah needs a lot lol
Nice review. I believe you can use OMP m2 grommets in the M1 canopy which are sold separately in packs of 4.
I just ordered some but ended up crashing the M1 the day after this video and broke the main frame and canopy so ordered new canopy and main frame. So for the new canopy I’ll have the M2 grommets when they tear
HawkRc carries M1 canopy rubber rings last time I checked their site. OSHM1062
Awesome thank you!
I have the mcpx bl2 and nano s3 they flight great handle 3D all day long with no issues But it’s a micro helicopter I will compare the m1 with the blade 150s pretty close to the same helicopter size with the huge advantage of forward programming on the 150s I have mine bind to a nx8 radio couple of tweaks on the setup and it will blow out of the water any m1 in performance and 3D maneuvers Price around 200 dollars or u can get a 230 s for around 230 dollars much more helicopter with the same programming capabilities btw great video
I have the nano S2 as well as the BL2 and had the 150s and have still have the 230s V1 and V2. Now the 150 is more comparable to the M2 but will still not even come close to the performance and power of the M1 or M2. The 230s is a great beginner helicopter but that’s about it. Does not fly great and does not do hard 3D well at all. No power cheap plastic head and frame lots of slop. I had the 150 and sold it about a month after buying it. Was not impressed one bit. Flys very heavy and lacks power. Sure forward programming is nice but I would much rather have the OMP line up over the blade in the smaller helis. Not only flight performance but power and DD as well as build! The build is incredible with OMP unlike Blade. Also the FBL with OMP is 100 times the FBL blade uses in any heli. But to each there own. As long as your flying and happy that’s all that matters!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Okay omp fanboy.
@@chrisrobinson425 😂😂😂🤣 some one sounds like a Blade fanboy… 😂😂🤣🤣
I say m1 is definitely made for outdoors. The mcpx bl2 has less power but it's lighter so it needs less head speed, it's great for indoors. You can fly the m1 indoors but the blades dug through my drywall lol! Both have their places. Both are capable fliers. Obviously the heavier and more powerful m1 can handle the wind better. Also I'd like to point out that I do break my m1 tail on a bad crash, that's kinda expected since it has a lot of power. The m1 is for a more experienced 3d pilot, while the mcpx is for people who is just starting the hobby, since it's more forgiving on crashes, has lower head speed, and it's lighter. If you are the type to buy an mcpx and put aluminum and carbon fiber "upgrades" then just skip it and move on to the m1, because you are missing the point of durability and cheap repairs.
The BL2 was great for its time but long due for updating, not a bad heli at all but FBL board definitely needs help and has its weird issues. The M1 is definitely A better flying performer and all around great heli for its size and can be tamed down to fly as a beginner or Advanced machine. Yes it does not hold up is good in a crash as the BL2 but definitely out flies it in terms just flight performance and stability.
Hi, thanks for the review. Think it's swung me in favour of the M1. Do you know if I can use my DX6i that I use for all my Blade heli's with the M1(or M2)? Or do you need a 3 position flight mode switch (DX6i has 2 position FM switch)?
The M1 is a fantastic model. You definitely picked a good one! Yes you can use your DX6i and a two position flight mode switch. You don’t need three positions you just won’t have two different head speeds.
I thought set-up was in the radio, I didnt realize I should or can change set ups on the main board. Thx.
Setup is in the radio but you can always change FBL settings. The BL2 is fixed to what it is but the OMP can be adjusted. I have a video on how to do it.
The mcpx is my go to heli..I have many others but this that one is my favorite..still need to get me the m1 ..I fly my m2 daily but I bought some guerilla glue apoxy,took that and coated my frame with it ..that way if I ever have another accident. It's good to go .I have microheli frames on some of them ,but stalk flys the best. Some guys drill holes in the frame and replace the pegs with carbon fiber rodes ..haven't tried that yet .but the mcpx is a flemsy bastard,for sure ,but fun
The bill to was great for its time but in all honesty I have not flown since I got the M1 lol two totally different machines incredible performance in flight characteristics out of the M1 in my opinion. I never upgraded the BL2 or nano or heli like that as they get heavy and break just as easy
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I still fly both but not as much sense it got cold out ..ya some things are better than others on the upgrades ..I found a good combo on one of mine but to do all of it is to heavy especially frame and skids
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I think the bl2 is still great ,,but when people ask me what they should buy,I tell them the m1 every time ,I don't want to see people get hurt or ripped off..and you know as well as I do every time a guy buys a blade product to feel resintment later or the bad end of a deal , because the prematurely fail..and they do all the time when you thought it should of flew longer it,it doesn't ..you got to love blade I think to buy them still..and I do ..but I'm not gonna Deni there is better out there
How do you bind the Radiomaster Tx16 to BL2 or a helicopter like blade 230? Which receiver do you use? I looked them up but could not find much info. Thanks!
You just tell the TX16S that you want DSMX protocol and bind. No need to change the RX in the BL2 or 230s.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks. Seems the way to go. Want to upgrade from rtf Dxs
@@nickbeall2353 yeah you can just go into the TX16S and tell it you want DSMX protocol and your good to bind.
I've had both and the mcpx bl2 is far better for my needs, a 30 x 80 foot small area, plus a little bigger area too. If it came down to price alone the M1 wins easily as far as what you get.
The M1 is an awesome heli, no doubt, it's smooth, precise, powerful, adjustable (I had to take my cyclic gains to 1) and fairly tough. It flies more similarly to my Trex 150x. It could have been the small profile and huge power, but something never felt right about it to me.
I got an mcpx bl2 and it's one of my favorites. I've crashed it many, many times.
The following mods make it very crash resistant : titanium main shaft (microheli), aluminum swashplate (MH, optional rear swash guide), solid tail boom with some rigged supports to landing skids (its ugly but strong so far), better main and grip bearings (the bent aluminum shaft probably killed my upper bearing). After doing these mods the dry weight is 58 grams and AUW is 72g with a 200mAh pack and 80g with a 350mAh M1 pack and adapter.
I mounted the canopy directly to the AIO board and landing skids with EPP foam and some rubber type glue. It can be pulled off easily and glued back on. The stock frame is very brittle, so far I've broken all the canopy pins, the lower servo mount for the left servo (the servo and broken mount are glued to the frame with rubber type glue), the tail boom boss is split a bit (but glue fills it in nicely without the wires in the way).
I have a cut down 65mm Gemfan quadcopter blade tail blade that seems to work better for me.
It may have been the big heli feel, but whatever inexplicable quality it was it made me not truly enjoy flying my M1.
Awesome mods to your BL2! They both have there plus and minuses. The BL was definitely a fun little helicopter and I still enjoy mine. But I do find myself not flying it as much since I got the M1. I definitely enjoy the M1 much more in flies much better for my needs. I definitely am going to try that tail blade, How far did you cut it down?
@@westhobbiesrc8051 they definitely help toughen it up, the aluminum shaft bent easily for me. I had a nice tail first crash today and bent my fin, but the boom is still strong.
I cut it to 52mm. The shaft is 1.4mm and my local hardware store didnt have the right size drill bit so I used a 1.2mm Allen key to ream it out after drilling a few mm with a 1.5mm bit. The green blades are good for visibility too.
I use one on my XK K110 too. Full length with a bigger 8520 coreless motor on a short boom. It was a great improvement.
Love your vids, you tell it how it is, ive changed to radiomaster, its gimbles are beutifull, ive got the fpv bug now and the express lrs rx's are so so small and easy once you have brought the jr module for t16s, best thing is, they do a pwm converter that the Matek rx solders to so you can use for helis.
keep the videos coming bud!
Respect from uk
Thank you very much! I greatly appreciate the kind words. I made sure that I tried to build my channel on honesty and giving people actual feedback not like most TH-cam channels out there. Everybody gets caught in the free stuff and doesn’t give you the honest opinion and I’ve seen way too many reviews of the deal to but I’ll great and fantastic it is and I just wanted to share my personal experience with it vs the OMP M1!
Realy nice review. I like both of them. I am using a openTX transmitter too. Would you share your openTX setting file for the BL2 ? That would be great. Greetings Christian
Thank you, Yes I can send you my model file. Send me a email choppers992@hotmail.com and I will send that file to you.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Is the eMail address right ? I got an errror: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender.
It seems i will blocked by my provider. I will check it and try it again
@@helikrysly yes that is the right email address. Okay let me know.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 second try seems to work and you should get an email from me.
hi l use the yellow seal that are in car plugs for the loom
I'm curious to know if the 350mah lipo from the m1 fit in to the bl2 skid ?
I just checked, the M1 battery is little to big to fit in there. I’m sure you could force it but I wouldn’t.
Do you make a video, to setup the M1 with the TX16
I can for-sure make a video on how to set the M1 to the TX16S.
Your very knowledgeable, like your reviews. And the flying videos are very impressive.
Thank you very much! Glad you like them!
Quetion about radio, I get a dxs and I NEED something better, Spektrum nx6 or tx16s ?
That can be a tough question, so what are your plans for the future? I tell everyone to always buy the biggest radio you can afford. The TX16S is an incredible radio for the money! You get so much radio for “cheap” it’s been fantastic and flawless for me. I’ve got thousands of flights on mine already and will recommend it to anyone. With that being said programming can be pretty difficult especially if you don’t know what you’re doing or it’s new to completely setting up a radio. But if you’ve never programmed any other radio you could definitely learn relatively quickly. You definitely get a lot more radio with the TX16S than the NX6 but both will do great for you. If you want the simplicity of radio set up and binding fly style in the future I would go Spektrum
@@westhobbiesrc8051 yes, simplicity is actually what I prefer, I want to e able to change head speed and gains. Future plans, I really want to learn some 3d.
Thaks for the help
i hav the og mcpxbl and trex 150x and i find the trex harder to fly how does the m1 compare to fly
I don’t have a Trex 150 or flown one but a good friend of mine does and he has the M1 as well and said night day over the Trex 150. He is selling the Trex 150 and buying a second M1
@@westhobbiesrc8051 i was thinkin that to . cheers
I went from a 150x to a m1. I’m a beginner and only fly circuits for now but the m1 is way easier for me to fly. I had to dial in a ton of negative expo but it flys so much smother than the 150x and is way less twitchy/darty and much more predictable
Is the M1 much the same size as a Blade 180CFX??
No much smaller
So it will be a good transitioner heli from my Nano S3 to the. M1? Also should my DX6 bind the same way my S3 or CFX does or is there some other way it binds? PS I really do appreciate your videos
@@targetoz5470 thank you very much for watching and enjoying the channel! Yes it will be a great steppingstone also look into the Goosky S2! Hands-down best micro helicopter on the planet. It is the same size as the blade 180 CFX butterflies like nothing you’ve ever flown before. For either the M1 or the S2 you will need a DSMX satellite to bind it to your DX6. Get the Kensun DSMX satellite as it has a bind button.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Goosky S2, I’ve already got 2 180CFX’s is the Goosky the same size as the 180cfx? I did the opposite of what most people do. Bought a Goblin 380, 2 180cfx, Nano s3, fixed pitch micro and a flight sim. I’m flying the cfx on the flight sim while I’m flying my s3, to scared to fly the cfx for now, that’s why I want something to fill the gap between the nano and the cfx, I’ll trust your opinion on what to get next, thoughts?
@@targetoz5470 yes the S2 is pretty much the same size is the 180 CFX it’s actually slightly bigger, but it flies incredible. The M one is a nice model my only complaint is tail blowout. If you start getting hard on it you will lose the tail every time and all three of my crashes with that model were because of tail blow out. So I always recommend the S2 because I have hundreds of whites on it and it has just been flawless zero complaints and parts are still extremely cheap.
I just bought a pack of 4 OMP grommets so you can get them if you hunt around.
I ended up just going with M2 grommets. They are bigger but don’t tear anymore.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 microheli has some for the m1 on ebay.
@@DetoursRC yes they came out with them a few months after I made this video. I just use the M2 grommets work great
@@westhobbiesrc8051 good to know
@@westhobbiesrc8051 my grommets on the M1 wore out and broke quickly also. I got some of the microheli ones to see how they hold up. They fit good. I tried the m2 ones but I was too lazy to try and force them in I guess. Lol
The BL2 really doesn't compare well - cheap plastic parts vs. precise all-metal head and direct drive on the M1.
Of course, but I get asked witch one should I get? So hopefully this will help people decide.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 If you read the forums, the BL2 has problems with the control board. It tends to become glitchy after a couple of crashes, where the heli suddenly starts banking by itself. I don't think it's a good heli. If someone is a beginner and is afraid of crashing, they should get the Nano or K110. If they aren't concerned about crashing, then I would skip the BL2 and go to the M1.
I have read a lot of forms. I’ve had a few crashes and zero problems with it. Just like anything they are electronics and can have probably. I learned a long time ago just because people have problems don’t mean you will. Of course there is other options and different micro helis out there. The BL2 is good for what it is but M1 is far better in every way. Never owned or messed with the XK helicopters so can’t say but do own a few nanos and while they are fun for in the house that about it.
who cares. metal bends. these helis need to be able to crash a lot. the m1 cant
@@James28R Have you flown both? The M1 crashes better than the BL2. It flies better, crashes better.
wow the blade grips on the m1 are massive relative to the rest of the heli
comparing apples and oranges here. bl2 is designed for learning and crashing. the m1 is designed for precise flying which is fine but wont take a hit the same way.
No comparison.. really the omp out does it by all ..I can do funnels better on my bl2 tho til sloppy rear servo hit it..cheap HH junk..sorry I thought you meant the m2 ...I don't have the m1 ..the problems with the bl2 I've had was that big canopy holds to much heat in and Frys the board if over flone.and tail motor only last me 30 flites. I bought the m2 to replace it .but then I went back out and bought a new bl2 cause it's the first copter I learned to invert on so I got a special place in my heart for it ..I don't think it flys like the nano tho ..it has alot more power than thos
OMP for me as well, just a fantastic design and well thought out. The FBL and flight performance is fantastic on the M1 or M2. My broad is going bad on my BL2 now. It went crazy and almost flew away and shut off about 200ft up and just fell back to the ground and broke the main frame (repair video coming soon)
@@westhobbiesrc8051 the range sucks on my bl2 40 meters is all.. I keep burning tail motors out of my mcpx...good thing they cheap to buy.. wonderful practice heli..I give it that..but the m2 is just insanity fast
Nobody can feel the "old technology" that is on the MCPX, so it can't be really be counted as a disadvantage. The new technology that is more important nowadays is telemetry and a 3-axis gyro that really works....and the MCPX have them both. On the other hand, the OMP M1 does not have telemetry when using the S-FHSS protocol, and when using the OMP protocol with telemetry you lose control of the throttle....That's not the "new technology" I would call advantageous.
You can 100% feel the difference between new modes and old models. You fly a MCPX and then fly a M1 you can feel the difference between the MCPX FBL and the M1 FBL. Telemetry is not the “new” technology. Better chips, faster processors, better servos, better frame design, more rigid head, frame and swash and the list goes on.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes, I can feel how the Nano S3 FBL system is a lot better than the 1st gen Nano CPX. I haven't tried the new MCPX BL2 in person, but I presume the same is true between it and the original MCPX.
Yes, I agree telemetry is not the "new" technology, but it is at least a necessity. Not having telemetry is inexcusable when you care about not killing your flight battery, because having a timer is not that reliable when you happen to grab a partially charged battery pack.
M1 vs Blade 120 Infusion is Interesting.
The 120 infusion is a cool looking heli but I don’t it could even compare to a M1 or S1
I'm not sure how you can even compare these two.
Since there both a similar size and people ask all the time witch one should they get or witch ones better. The M1 hands down but every one like what they like.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 stupid answer then. small helis are all about the crashability. the m1 sucks ass for that
Its really not a comparison. M1 all the way
The M1 is by far better for me. Every one like there own thing but from my flying and testing M1 all day!
guy like you was probably pulled out another one and was up again in three minutes
I do own a lot of helis
M1 thats a no brainer bl2 throws shaft bearings and is way less quality..
M1 is far better, never had a bearing go bad on my BL2. It’s been a great little heli and mainly gets flown Indoors now.
Omhobby m1
OMP all the way!
The only real difference here is price
No, there is a lot more difference than just price. Yes the M1 is a little bit more expensive but you are getting a quality machine aluminum parts metal gear servos million times better FBL
@@westhobbiesrc8051 and will break when you crash. are you stupid?? they are for different uses
The focus is terrible man, please work on that bro
Unwatchable due to not being able to focus correctly