How To Destroy A $3000 Heli In 20 Seconds
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2023
- Well! It’s was not the maiden flight video I wanted for the GAUI NX7. Unfortunately crashes happen and they are always the worst when you can’t do nothing about it. Lost RX pack voltage in flight and just watched it crash. It will be rebuilt and flying soon!
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Your resilience is top notch. I would have to shelve it for a couple months and fly something else to get over it. You set a great example. Good job.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Crashing is part of the hobby. If you don’t want to break them don’t fly them. There is no reason to get mad or upset, just rebuild and figure out why it happened.
I would just like to say that you Are a very underrated channel and your content is amazing and so helpful! I love the build vids! And you should keep it up! 👍🏻
Thank you! I greatly appreciate it and I hope to keep growing! Thank you for watching! Don’t worry! Videos are not going anywhere!
It always hurts to witness such a loss. It is all the more painful to be the owner yourself.
Hats off to you for handling this so calmly and in an exemplary manner.
Keep up the good work, it happens to all of us once in a while!
Thank you, there is no reason to get upset or mad as any heli or thing can be replaced or rebuilt. It’s all part of this hobby. Every time we fly RC we take the chance of crashing or breaking them.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 what rx pack were you using? Size?
@@gregphillips7217 GensACE 2s 2200mAh
Great move arresting the chicken dance so quickly and so effectively. I learned a lot by watching that. It sucks that you had a crash, but it happens to all of us (like you yourself said in the video). Thanks for sharing your RC adventures, I very much enjoy watching these videos. And I also typically learn a lot from them. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Thank you, I am glad you learn a lot from the videos and they are helpful! I always post everything regardless if it’s good or bad. I’m not wanting to hide things or fake it. Everyone crashes no matter how good of a pilot you are! Failures happen pilot error happens. Any time a nitro does the chicken dance/runaway do you have to act quickly because if it sits there at full throttle with no load it will blow up sooner or later.
I dont know but I was thinking the Homer Simpson dance "woop woop woop" I know the feeling as I destroyed a $3k glider the other day 😮💨
It’s a part of the hobby. What a tough heli! The good thing is that all parts are available when you need them.
Yes it is! If you don’t want to break them, don’t fly them. It’s a very tough heli! I was amazed!
Don't worry, Jeff. You are very good to solve that problem. We are with you.
Thank you! It is almost Rebuilt and ready to fly again!
Ouch hate to see it. Definitely couldve been worse. I'm really surprised the frames weren't cracked. Thus is the life of an rc heli pilot. Get back at it !
Yes it is! Everybody crashes and it is a risk you take every time you put a model in the air. My grandfather used to always tell me if you don’t wanna break them don’t fly them!
DUDE THAT WAS AWSOME!!! That heli hit so HARD!! That sucks so much and sad to see happen to anyone but that was an EPIC crash!! Great flying!! Your flying skills are amazing! 👍👍
Thank you! It always sucks to crash but it sucks even more when it’s not your fault and nothing you can do about it!
Nice shot bro!!
I knew as soon as the heli started coming down it was not pilot error…sucks!
Just wanted to let you know that you inspired me to resurrect my 600N DFC (sat for over 5 years on a shelf). I had to replace the motor so I upgraded to the .55 hyper.
I think I will follow your methodology and maiden it without the canopy 😅
I wish it was pilot air! I hate crashing because of a failure. I hate crashing altogether lol but at least if it’s something I did it doesn’t feel as bad. The Trex 600 is a great model! Love mine. I got two of them lol the OS55 is a fantastic engine! You will love it.
Good thing the pipe survived !
Yes it is!
Makes me want a nx7, I still love the setup with the narrow frames, compared to the newer nitro heli’s
It’s a incredible strong heli, I was very surprised and could not believe how well it held up!
Impressed how sturdy that carbon fiber is and kudos to you on instantly stopping the headless chicken dance after the crash , great cold blood!
Me too! I was amazed when I picked it up and didn’t see it completely destroyed. Not even a crack in the main frame! Very strong model. Thank you, you have to act quickly when the hell he is doing the chicken dance so you do not hurt the engine or blow it up.
I got Super into the Gaui videos you were making I rember this being one of the longest series of the gaui NX7 build. I honestly thought you said fuck this im done and moved forward. I was hyped to see the end of this series with how you do the tail set up as well as the ikon 2 set up on the gaui. I now see why it never got to that part of the series. I'll be honest I did the same shit to my gaui X7 last summer I have it rebuilt now.
I ran into quite a few issues with the GAUI build. Main reason I didn’t post any more videos. I had a few engine issues as well as governor issues. And then on the maiden flight this happen! It is almost fully rebuilt now and will be ready for Maiden 2.0 lol
That is one tough helicopter to survive that nose dive! I know it will be better than before in your capable hands! 😂
Thanks Rob! It’s very strong! I was super surprised!
Oh i remember doing something like this to my new Goblin 700 Cough with tears !
Definitely sucks!
Hey Westy I have a 600 Pantera Nitro which just switched my head to FBL thinkin about putting spirit in it but what do I need to put back inthe air ESC bigger battery not sure how to go... kinda new to nitro
Hello, is the heli complete? All servos and everything? If switching to FBL you don’t need need to change anything else depending on what you want.
So the receiver battery voltage dropped? Was there an issue with the battery or just forgot to charge it up?
Yes, one cell of the RX pack died completely which brought the pack voltage under 3 V. Battery was brand new and this was its first charge.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 what brand and type of battery was it? Have you ever ran a similar battery?
@@minicooprc it was a GensACE 2s 2200mAh pack, I’ve never ran them before and this was a brand new battery. First charge.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 that's wild I've never had any problems or heard of any with gensace. Sorry you had to be the one.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Wow.. a $30 de dallor lipo distroyed you our heli.. insane
It`s always a pain to crash a rc heli😢 i hope you have it fixed😁
Yes it is! Oh yeah! It’s rebuilt and flying!
Ahh the dreaded chicken dance
Gotta love it!
The famous chicken dance
The loved chicken dance!
check those bearings as well!! It's not always what you see, but what you don't see. Been there a few times.
I pulled almost every bearing out of the model already mainly just to clean them in my ultrasonic cleaner. That mud got everywhere!
Bugger! I thought those things only happened to me. lol
Unfortunately they happen to everybody all
In the grand scheme of things... overall it's not too bad. Sorry to see this happen to your gorgeous new Gaui, Jeff. 😪😪
No it was not! It held up very well and I was very surprised. The worst part, it was a customer build and not even my helicopter! That sucks the most!
Was it a lipo Rx battery? The last lipo I used for Rx lost one cell and totalled one of my favourite large scale planes. It was a new thing to use lipos on Rx. Never again! Unless I use two for redundancy.
Yes, 2s Lipo 2200mAh. I use them all the time and this is the first time I’ve had a Lipo go compact dead. But same thing happened, one cell dropped to 0v and the other was 4.0v unfortunately that’s not enough.
I had a similar power loss in my 580 nitro. Now I use throttle return springs :P
In the event of a power a return spring would definitely help!
Hi Jeff, would love a video on how to check out a heli after a crash. Perhaps you already have one. Feathering shaft, main shaft, etc. Thank you!
Hey mike, yes I do. I made a video“what to look for after you crash” going over everything you should check after ghoul crash.
Do they still make Gaui parts? Sorry for the mishaps. This is the kind to expect when your doing 3D on heli. Lucky it wasn’t too bad a dirt nap . Nice break in on the nitro motor BTW
Oh yes, anything Heli sells full GAUI parts and fast shipping! Flying anything will crash that is a risk you take every time you put it in the air. I just hate crashing from a failure and not a dumb thumb. I wish I crashed it because of my fault but unfortunately once power was lost there was nothing I could do but watch it go in.
oh the chicken dance my buddy Erik called it!
Yes it is! Good old chicken dance!
Dang this sucks but it happens and unfortunately is part of the hobby. I have to say I absolutely HATE maiden flights. Can't wait to see the maiden 2.0 vid!
It does suck but happens to everybody. It’s a risk we take every time we fly these models. You don’t wanna break them don’t fly them! But they can always be rebuilt to brand new.
What brand battery was it?
@@jeffgarver4137 GensACE 2s 2200mAh lipo.
😞😞😞 sry for your crash. But was leaned up with the 3D flight?. Thanks for sharing.
It happens! Unfortunately. It always sucks the most when there is nothing you can do about it but watch it crash! When they lose all power it is a waiting game at that point.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 yes that's true I know the feeling. I have a Trex600XN I really like it. At the moment I'm setting the gov on a Brain2 controller but something funny!. I made as the side details but from reviews find something to help me,the normal mode is not a straight line . I try to do 0,45,45,45,45,45.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 th-cam.com/video/k84hzYpKeyM/w-d-xo.html
Was the ball bearing of the exaust 😂😂
I know the pain lol. I have a Trex 500 that has a gremlin I been chasing for years. Flew it 5 times since I built it and its servo glitched 3 times out of 5 and slams itself into the ground. I've replaced everything I thought it could possibly be and fixed it once again on November 19th after it slammed the ground. After many many packs ran through it while strapped down to a steel beam to see if i could recreate the issue I thought it was fixed. Monday I took it to work and hovered it up out back. Clicked it in idle up 2 and 10 seconds later elevator servo glitched and smacked hard. First time was tail servo and last crash was left side aileron servo. I stuck it in a corner and quickly remembered while all of my other helicopters are nitro. When it's my fault it's not so bad but when it's something stupid you can't control it hurts lol
Freaking gravity , sorry bout that brother .
Gravity will always come up to smack you.
Hello sir,sorry about the crash,if you don’t mind me asking about how much money was it to get back in the air sir?
It happens! Part of flying. It was actually pretty good. Around $300
@@westhobbiesrc8051 okay sir
That's so frustrating. My dad bought a brand new plane and battery but doesn't know how to fly. Got it stuck in a tree and I offered to check it out. Charged up the battery started to fly while in a turn the moment I touched the rudder I lost all power. Turned out the battery had a bad cell.
It is! The good thing is it doesn’t happen very often the bad thing is it can happen! All these batteries are mass produced and anything can happen to them.
Great vid. Didn’t explain why battery low? Cheap $3 alarm May have saved day 😢
Not sure what happened exactly. I have telemetry of course and the alarm went off and as soon as it did I lost all power. One cell went completely dead.
Ah, the old chicken dance! Classic. Been there before!
Any one who fly’s nitro heli has been there at least once! Lol always sucks.
A sudden stoppage like that surely the whole power train should be scrapped?
Nope! Engine, clutch, gears are perfectly fine. Not a bad rebuild and flying again!
What part of US do you fly? Sorry for the loss that was terrible
I’m in Tennessee, it’s okay, the model is rebuilt!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 dang, Cali flyers seem to be running thin, as of now in Northern California I can only get 30% nitro from rc country in sac, and Fresno doesn’t cover heli 30%. They say electric is taking over. I can’t even get cool power. They only sell VP. At $46 plus tax all the other hobby shops are telling me everybody is going electric like I woke up from a coma.
Not really a chicken dance. More like a worm dance. Dang...
It was digging a hole
Ouch that hurt's. Great helicopter to fly, luckily most in this hobby is fixable.
Best part about helicopters they can always be rebuilt to brand new!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 that's why I like helicopters more then fixes wing. Crash, fix, fly!. With fixed wing a crash is less forgiving. I learned a lot from your video's. Thank you 👍
@@Reinierbaasrc me too! While I fixed many many crashed fix wing and made them brand new again it’s a whole lot harder and time consuming. With helis you just replace what you need to and back to brand new! Thank you! I glad you have learned a lot from the channel. Thank you for watching!
Internal resistance of lipos need a regular check..
Yes they do. This was a brand new pack with one charge and low IR.
Sorry about that..
Makes me wince when a a stunning heli goes in like that but these things happen
you will be back
Yes definitely!
Why the battery suddenly drained? Or there was other issues involved in the crash?
No battery backup? I use the Scorpion and now Scorpion has the V2.
I have never run a battery back up before and been flying Nitro Heli’s for over 25 years. This is the first time I’ve ever had a complete loss of power.
How'd this happen. Did you ever determine what caused the loss of power?
Battery voltage drop to under 3 V so one cell went completely dead in the patch. Not sure exactly how or why he did that.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 So did the servos lose power then?
@@ambrosekillpack4841 yes, the whole heli lost power.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 It's just a very interesting situation with a nitro heli because with an electric heli the motors and servos are powered by the same battery. But with a nitro the battery powering the servos and flight controller could die but the engine will still run because it's running on gasoline (I don't actually know what's in that fuel).
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Put a capacitor buffer pack in. Cheapest insurance you can buy.
WhistlinDiesel destroyed one in 3 seconds
sorry for your loss
Yes he did, The difference is mine was not planned lol
So no backup power device on the heli? I never takeoff without powering on my scorpion bug and if it happens to forget I surely curse myself for doing so. Maybe it's time to put an UltraGuard on that nice build, could save the day one day. Nice save btw, I am absolutely surprised there was no tail damage.
I’ve been flying nitro helicopters for over 25 years and never needed one before lol this is the very first time I have ever lost a helicopter due to complete power loss. Battery back up could’ve definitely of saved the helicopter but no matter how much redundancy you have stuff can always fail. It definitely worth having it
Can’t see how battery backup would help? On electric the motor would shut down (low power cutoff) wouldn’t you need alarm or telemetry for heads up?
@@nigelthompson874 I mainly use backup in the event of total power loss, so I don't personally need telemetry for the backup bug, I'm happy enough to have some degree of control for an autorotation at the last moment. There's a nice device called XBuzzer XGuard Sonic, that thing outputs 100dB and you definitely gonna hear it when backup power has taken over.
Dang thats hard to watch But it's why we fly RC - no one gets hurt in a crash.
Very hard to watch! Especially when the model is not yours. But best part about helis! They can be rebuilt to brand new!
Dude! That was gnarly!
What kind of engine is that? It just kept running like zombie machine, looked like it was some type of lawn machine. I'm sorry but I was laughing my ass off when that happened!
So I'm assuming you didn't properly break in the engine? Or did you lean it out too much?
I've had loss of engine power and even complete stalls on my airplanes back in the day. It was so annoying. One reason why I love electric now. Only negative is less run time.
But loss of engine power or even dead stick on a heli is a whole another game from airplanes!
OS 105, RX battery died (brand new pack) so lost all RX power so the engine was at its last command. Witch was 85% throttle, so it will run till there is no more fuel. Engine outs or dead stick are easy on a heli. Just auto rotate. Same with a plane. I fly a lot of nitro planes and had plenty of dead sticks, never crashed or stalled one from it when multi engine planes! I own a lot of multi engine nitro planes. I love them!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 oh I misunderstood in the video. I thought you said you lost some engine power. So the receiver pack failed? Wow that's definitely fatal!
@@LichaelMewis yeah, so out of the top of the loop I heard the radio say RX voltage 4.8v then 3.9v and even 4.8v is not enough to run everything on a 8.4v setup. So there was nothing I could do but watch. I wish it was a dead stick! But I will say, the heli held up extremely well!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 damn man that sucks. Was it just a bad cell in the rx battery or what? PS I love OS engines. That's all I ever ran.
@@LichaelMewis OS makes a great engine, there plane engines run great but not the most powerful engines. I love K&B, Webra, Nelson, Jett and moki for my planes and OS for helis! Wish Nova Rossi made heli engines again! Yeah, one cell died.n
Some suggest power backup but you would need telemetry or once again an onboard alarm (strobe maybe) to indicate switch over. Electric easy, the motor suits down on low 🤓power
Battery back up is a great thing to have. In 28 years this is the first time I’ve ever had that happen in thousands of helis. Telemetry is setup on the model but one cell went completely dead so as soon as the alarm went off I lost all power.
How do you kill the engine?
I pitched the fuel line off to cut fuel.
Sure hate to hear it...
It hurts the wallet and pride...
Didn't do as much damage as I would have thought...
Your the Man
WestHobbiesRc
Excelente control, pero desafortunadamente, falló la electrónica! Saludos!
You have one head for trex 500 ?
Unfortunately I do not.
Oh no!
Unfortunately happens to everyone.
👍😉
lost orientation?
RX battery pack died mid-flight.
Lost RX power
Is this your heli OR a build for somebody ?
Unfortunately it’s not mine, it is a build for a customer.
Damn that's sad. 😢😢
Unfortunately it happens!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 yeah. I hope it can get back to the air soon
Happens to us all
that would be awsome if it had satilite stream
bugger, what was the repair cost on this one?
The blades alone are about $150. Probably another $100-150 on top of that for other parts. Im guessing around $250-300 dollar range. About a typical 700 size heli crash. Not to mention the 6-8 hours of rebuild time. It hurts a bit. RC Heli hobby is a brutal one.
Just under $300. It was not a bad crash whatsoever!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks for the reply :) I only have a Nano S3 so could buy 3 of those for that repair lol
@@Anthraxnz64 and that was a cheap crash lol I crashed my 760X last years and it was $1100
@@westhobbiesrc8051 lol i think stick to micro's for the time being. Put my KDS 450qs back together for about $70 after that crashed
Oh man, I sure hate to see that.... Sucks when your not even doing hard smack and one goes in..
It does suck! Especially when they crash and there’s nothing you can do about it. You can’t control it you can’t do nothing but watch!
That sucks man
Yes it does!
looks like you lost orientation and hit throttle hold
Dang ! That sux
Yea it does!
Confused. Зарулился.😮
Chicken Dance
These Helis have too many points of failure for my budget.
They still make gas powered heli’s.? Lol.
Yea they make gas Heli, this one is nitro but you can still buy new models both gas and nitro.
That was really HARD to watch.
Yes it was!
Kobe
Surprised by the lack of damage with that hit, head on into the ground.
Me too! I was absolutely amazed!
@Rcaddictionmania well tomorrow I shall be maiden flying my blade 230s and trex 470, will be my first time so hopefully they come back in once piece.
@Rcaddictionmania I hope so, it all looks good.
Well just to report back, maiden flights were great, the 470 was so stable in the air but the 230 had a fair bit of tail wag, wether that was due to battery being too tight I don't know. Also on the 470 I have soft start on the align esc but sometimes it would spin up like it was on airplane mode and then would start normally after flicking switches and resetting the throttle back to 0.
Too bad
That’s what they make parts for! Rebuild and keep flying!
Jeff, I want to donate my Blade 360 CFX. I am not a bot, or a scammer. You can see part of my early fleet on page 18 of the October 2009 issue of RC Heli mag. If you like I can give you my e-mail, or a phone number. Sorry about your mishap. Used to call that a “funky chicken “
Hey Paul! Thank you! That would be awesome. That is one model I do not own and would like to. You can send me a email at westhobbiesrc@hotmail.com and I can send you my address from there. Greatly appreciate that! Out of 25 years of Nitro flying that is only my second chicken dance lol
Wasn’t your fault. Some one probably turned up the wifi!
Lol unfortunately it was a bad battery.
God bless the ashes of the VISA Card
If you don't want the thing I will take it? Why destroy the thing?
huh? how is having a battery go dead destroying it? lol
Like putting an expensive toy in the hands of a child who doesn't know what it's for...
😂😂 that’s exactly it!
Geees at least it’s not a total lost, but she hit the found hard. Guess you got lucky in a way. Look forward to 2.0🫡
Best part about helicopters is no matter how bad the crash they can always be rebuilt to brand new!