For Mac users: If your instrument has an internal sound card, and you're using an aggregate device, your audio may drift out of sync. This is especially noticeable with drum machines like the TR-6/8s. If this happens, open your Audio MIDI Control panel, and under aggregate device, click drift correction next to your sound card and every device relies upon USB for midi sync (unless you're using an external word clock).
Brother, I know you created and produced this about 2 years ago… but I just wanted to thank you for such high quality content. This tutorial and walk through was quite comprehensive. Thank you for creating such considerate content! Cheers!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share your setup and creative process - very inspiring. Your on-the-fly compositions are solid and the sound coming from your outboard gear is simply beautiful to hear. You're good at this!
Subscribed! Excellent video, my entire studio is all analog gear and I've been playing with the idea of using live to control it all. Lives clip launching structure combined with the push is exactly what I've been looking for all these years and I think you've locked my decision to make the switch from FL Studio and go all in with Ableton Live 11 suite and a push 2. Well done sir!
I've been searching for what to buy as my first musical equipment for weeks. Your overview, list and presentation really helped. I just ordered a Ableton Push 2 so my journey begins. Thanks! Checking you out on Spotify as well.
Absolutely bangin' video! Haven't the foggiest as to why I'm only seeing it now but was definitely worth a watch. One of the the most tasteful videos ever made on the topic!
Thanks so much for this tutorial, I've really got into using my minilogue xd recently and was having all kinds of trouble getting it into a useable form in Ableton and you've solved it all for me. Really appreciated 😊😊
I discovered your channel today and already watched a lot of your videos. Very useful and inspiring! Don't worry about pumping 2-3 videos a week, a lot of people out there appreciate quality over quantity. Usually the streamers pumping 2-3 videos a week also "pump" a burnout video every 3-6 months.
Jesus that moog sounds great. This is a really handy video have liked and subscribed. If you were recording the filter changes you were making on the moog on ableton, would you need a separate audio channel to do so?
Thanks buddy! Yeah 💯 %. Insert an audio track and take the input from the external instrument channel like I do when testing for latency. I realised after the fact that I should have included a section on recording also! All the best buddy
Very cool! So far I only sequence my synth from a Polyend Tracker and record in Ableton live but this gave me some ideas on how to do it differently. Though I'll have to invest into a better audio interface as mine doesn't have a Midi Out. Maybe I could do it with USB as well.
Hello there, if you update the firmware (v2.0) of the Mother-32, you can set it to ignore the start/stop midi messages. Then if you enable the sync midi out, that would launch the sequencer on your TR-8, and you would be able to use the TR’s effects.
Super dope, i’ve been reaching to like button 4 or 5 times and it was like - so bad i can’t give 5 likes to this video. Very useful advices. I have Arturia Mikrofreak synth and recently started to use it with Ableton.
Thanks! Great work, I was messing with this, earlier today - behringer Cat and Xstation. I will do the latency test for sure, tomorrow. One thing I noticed, only have the midi recorded... let me explore other vsts easily ... did not capture that nice filter action from tweaking the synth, nor the patch. I routed audio out of that midi track to another audio track to capture the synth sound. Leaving that capture track monitor in.
Just stumbled accross your channel and although my setup is quite different, this was super informative! Thanks for sharing the knowledge, subscribed! :)
Great Tutorial. Love your Music and i have also the Mother 32 in my arsenal with the push. Do you have also the DFAM from Moog? That's a bit more tricky to bring in because it has no MIDI-Ports. I use an old Keystep 32 or my Drumbrute Impact only for clocking the DFAM. It works of course with the Mother 32 too with clocking, but than you have to check Sync on in the Preferences and as you said the Mother 32-Sequencer always start automatically. With the DFAM together a tutorial would be nice too. :)
Firstly brilliant video editing is so clean I recently purchased my first synth and I've been struggling to set it up correctly I noticed you send midi to your audio interface but I'm unsure how the midi gets to your external insturements like is the scarlet 18 a midi interface also I've been sending midi through usb but it doesn't seem to ever line up using arps and stuff really unsure if the correct way to sync it up... Keep smashing these videos out man I love this channel 🐈
Hey thanks buddy. This is the MOST common problem. I specifically don’t use usb cables in any of my set up videos but people keep using them 😂 take that usb out of your synth and throw it away. Grab yourself a 5 pin MIDI cable and connect that from you audio interface and to your synth. The scarlet 18i8 is a midi interface. Most basic audio interfaces are.
@@mredrollo Thanks for the speedy reply! I bought a berringer interface i don't think this one has midi input I will take a look in the morning it's 12pm here If it doesn't I will get a new interface because it's been driving me crazy 😂
what a great vid again. i was just literally stuck with this latency stuff. hope i'll be able to fix it with the help of this vid! in the video i saw you stopping multiple clips with 1 button on the push, how 'd you do that? really appreciate the work you're putting in for these quality vids
Ah awesome. Yeah latency can be the death of creativity. Let me know if you are still running into issues. Well spotted with stopping multiple clips on push. My drums are all within a group and I’m triggering the group stop button which will stop anything in that group :)
@@mredrollo thanks, will do. I'd like to run the tr-8 and a few other synths at the same time from ableton so i can turn some knobs live, but also be able to record the keys from my synths. Not sure if thats asking too much from my setup. Anyways i ll try and figure it out first. Ah good to know about the group stop button!
I love the song sometimes I watch this to just listen to the song just wanted to know if you released this masterpiece if so name? Thanks this was great
loving the videos mate, big up ! i have a similar set up and my Dell XPS 13 isn't quite hacking all the multi tasking going on.... im assuming you re running a macbook pro ?
Hello my friend .. first to tell you that I love your videos. I had a question about the push..what option have you used in scale so that the lights come out like this on the pads. ?? What scale are you using?
This is the most basic of sound from my Moog Mother 32, simple saw wave and a little filter envelope. Something similar could easily becreated using Ableton's Analog Instrument. Or, you could probably find a multi sampled downloadable instrument for a similar type of sound yeah for sure, but nothing will quite replace a delicious sounds of a pure analog moog :)
Just subscribed, nice content really worth it! If you don’t mind a little help. I got a keylab mk2 for keys and synths and thinking to start in hardware (almost bought a mother 32 this week). Would you think that the best way is to start with a push 2 and a audio interface (maybe 6i6) and later get the hardware gear? Cheers, keep up!!
Hey, thanks for the sub! The best thing you can do is make the most of what you have in-front of you. I know it sounds cliche but it really is the best way to "get started". As you learn what you can do with the gear you currently have then slowly integrate extra gear so long as it serves an extra purpose to what you currently have. It's easy to get carried away buying gear! There are some essentials like an audio interface so 6i6 could be a good choice. I have the 18i8!!
Hi, my friend. I really like your videos. One question. How can you deactivate the mother 32 sequencer? every time I press play on the project it starts working.. Is there any way I can disconnect the sequencer from the synth and have it not work>?
this just popped up on my feed and just wanted to ask what kind/brand of caps are those on the push? i just got a used push 2 and kind of want to replace my knobs.
Hi, i'm completely stuck on something! I have a few synths (Model D, Crave, etc) and whatever way i've got things set up with Push2 is not letting me play the pads on the 64 pad layout... If i go to the melodic and 32 step sequencers i can enter notes on all the steps, but if i go to the 64 pad layout, nothing is registering when i play pads... Please help!
I recently busted the m32 and all my gear back out of storage to set up a new pc based studio... I cannot get the m32 to play polyphonically(I know the m32 is monophonic) like you do @19.32... previous build did play as such... could trigger multiple voices via push2. I am running through Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 gen2... I seem to be missing something in the link, tempo, MIDI settings... I think I had set the m32 as a control surface but there isn't a default one for it in Ableton so I believe I saw somewhere instructed to set it as a different default control surface and it worked, cant remember which one tho... What am I missing? please help, any random youtuber. thanks
Hey mate, as for the example you are referring to I’m just triggering the m32 with an arpeggiator. It’s still only single voicing though. Hope that’s helpful.
I just want something ware I can create music on the fly and not have to worry about mastering or my cpu crashing... That's the main reason I'm not making music.. I've got FL Studio fire edition Let's say it makes me crazy... 🥀🥀🥀🥀
I don't own a Microfreak but for sending and receiving MIDI this will be set up in your Link/MIDI Preferences. The Microfreak should appear in your MIDI Ports list. Then make sure the corresponding Track column is set to On for the Microfreak Input. Hope that helps!
So I have ableton, some synths, 2i4 interface, some iPad apps, and getting a keystep pro.................so now I want something with drum finger pads for rhythm stuff and such,and I can’t decide if I should add Machine, Push, TR8,Launchpad, digitakt or what?...........................do you think Push...........anyone else can chime in also..............?
@@manuelcorrea8669 I only have Ableton lite so I’m not forced to stick with Ableton but after researching, I think it might be good, do you think I should stick with Ableton or will I hate it as a noob
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This has been one of the best and most inspiring tutorials for the Ableton Push and synths I've come upon! Thanks!!
Thanks so much!!
For Mac users:
If your instrument has an internal sound card, and you're using an aggregate device, your audio may drift out of sync. This is especially noticeable with drum machines like the TR-6/8s.
If this happens, open your Audio MIDI Control panel, and under aggregate device, click drift correction next to your sound card and every device relies upon USB for midi sync (unless you're using an external word clock).
Brother, I know you created and produced this about 2 years ago… but I just wanted to thank you for such high quality content. This tutorial and walk through was quite comprehensive. Thank you for creating such considerate content! Cheers!
One of the rare synth tutorial TH-camrs who actually makes real music instead of bleeps and bloops.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share your setup and creative process - very inspiring. Your on-the-fly compositions are solid and the sound coming from your outboard gear is simply beautiful to hear. You're good at this!
Also, just realised i have the same Cats On Synthesizers In Space t-shirt... haha
So down to earth you are mate...I like your work
Thank you so much 😀
Awesome video, great that you spent enough time on latency alone. Stuff that a lot of people just miss out on.
And nice track.
Subscribed! Excellent video, my entire studio is all analog gear and I've been playing with the idea of using live to control it all. Lives clip launching structure combined with the push is exactly what I've been looking for all these years and I think you've locked my decision to make the switch from FL Studio and go all in with Ableton Live 11 suite and a push 2. Well done sir!
You won’t be disappointed. Thanks so much!
I watch for the anxiety induced adrenaline rush of pouring coffee at an unprecedented distance from the electronic gear
😂
😂😂
I've been searching for what to buy as my first musical equipment for weeks. Your overview, list and presentation really helped. I just ordered a Ableton Push 2 so my journey begins. Thanks! Checking you out on Spotify as well.
Super appreciated man. All the best 💪🏼
This was an excellent explanation. So many tutorials show part of the process but you broke it all down perfectly. Thanks 🙏
Thank you!
Thank you so much - the best video I have found on how to set up Ableton/push with my mother 32 - amazing!
Thanks so much!
This was very enlightening thank you
Absolutely bangin' video! Haven't the foggiest as to why I'm only seeing it now but was definitely worth a watch. One of the the most tasteful videos ever made on the topic!
Thanks so much!
🤩 This is so awesome! Love all your vids but this is the most meaningful. Thank you so much! 🙏🏼
Such a good video, really helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Great tune. Made get my Push out again.
Fantastic!
loved you in The Sopranos
This is one of the best tutorial channels on youtube!
Haha thank you my dude! Appreciate it ❤️
love your teaching style. love your method with latency composition. Im going to do this with my Multi Moog.
Thanks so much!
Thank you for putting in all that work. You are awesome
Welcome!
Damn 11.1 dropped on the intro final hit. That timing
Awesome demo
Great tutorial Ed. Thanks for explaining all the steps from setup to execution, right through to the creative performance.
Thank you!
Great video! Helped me get started using analog synths.
1 minute in, instant sub
I love it. Thank you!
Saved for the next time I get a push :)
Get on it!
Your song is absolutely fantastic, definitely!!!!!!!!!!! 🙏🏻🔥🎶
#Ableton #Push4Life 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Thanks!
Inspiring video thank you your nice little jam session gave me Stephan Bodzin vibes
Very interesting!
Thanks so much for this tutorial, I've really got into using my minilogue xd recently and was having all kinds of trouble getting it into a useable form in Ableton and you've solved it all for me. Really appreciated 😊😊
So welcome!
Great video. I have been using Ableton for years and this was super helpful!
Great to hear!
really great video! subscribed!
Thanks so much!
Pouring liquids by your synths makes me nervous! Great Channel
I discovered your channel today and already watched a lot of your videos. Very useful and inspiring! Don't worry about pumping 2-3 videos a week, a lot of people out there appreciate quality over quantity. Usually the streamers pumping 2-3 videos a week also "pump" a burnout video every 3-6 months.
Burnout videos 😂 what a joke.
Fantastic tutorial, thank you!
You're very welcome!
I see those PML samples and loops! Love their stuff so much! Great video btw
The best I’ve heard! Thanks ;)
This was great and I love the song too
Thank you!
What a great video! I watched the entire video and I might just buy a Mother 32 to add to my Push 2 setup. Thanks mate!
Thanks man! It was longer than expected but couldn’t find a way to cut anything. Can’t fault the M32 in anyway, it’s beautiful.
Great video!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge :) I found it very helpful.
Anytime! 🙂
Thank you! Your video was very helpfull and I like the idea of this song and how it evolved!
Oh yeah thanks! I plan to finish this track off soon!
very inspirational ideas, thank you!
Thank you!
Solid content. Excellent explanation too!
Everything sounds great
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this video! Very helpful and easy to understand.
Glad to hear it!
Jesus that moog sounds great. This is a really handy video have liked and subscribed.
If you were recording the filter changes you were making on the moog on ableton, would you need a separate audio channel to do so?
Thanks buddy! Yeah 💯 %. Insert an audio track and take the input from the external instrument channel like I do when testing for latency. I realised after the fact that I should have included a section on recording also! All the best buddy
oeh that coffee pour next to that gear almost killed me! xD
Thats why I filmed it in slow motion! 😆
Very cool! So far I only sequence my synth from a Polyend Tracker and record in Ableton live but this gave me some ideas on how to do it differently. Though I'll have to invest into a better audio interface as mine doesn't have a Midi Out. Maybe I could do it with USB as well.
Hello there, if you update the firmware (v2.0) of the Mother-32, you can set it to ignore the start/stop midi messages.
Then if you enable the sync midi out, that would launch the sequencer on your TR-8, and you would be able to use the TR’s effects.
Amazing, thank you!
Super dope, i’ve been reaching to like button 4 or 5 times and it was like - so bad i can’t give 5 likes to this video. Very useful advices. I have Arturia Mikrofreak synth and recently started to use it with Ableton.
Hahaha thanks so much mate!
Thanks a lot mate. I finally figured it out.
No problem 👍
Thanks! Great work, I was messing with this, earlier today - behringer Cat and Xstation. I will do the latency test for sure, tomorrow. One thing I noticed, only have the midi recorded... let me explore other vsts easily ... did not capture that nice filter action from tweaking the synth, nor the patch. I routed audio out of that midi track to another audio track to capture the synth sound. Leaving that capture track monitor in.
That’s the way to do it! Good luck with it buddy!
Just stumbled accross your channel and although my setup is quite different, this was super informative! Thanks for sharing the knowledge, subscribed! :)
Really appreciate it man. Glad it helped!
Beautiful 🤩
Thank you!
Nice tune and great presentation. Subbed :) look forward to more videos :)
Thank you!
Thanks learning soo much from you! :)
Appreciate it buddy!
These are amazing. Thank you
Thanks man!
Man
You are doing great job
Thank you!
Fantastic.
Thank you! Cheers!
Amazing tone
Thank you!
0:57 No! This is not a good one, it's an excellent one, thank you.
Haha thanks!
Great Tutorial. Love your Music and i have also the Mother 32 in my arsenal with the push. Do you have also the DFAM from Moog? That's a bit more tricky to bring in because it has no MIDI-Ports. I use an old Keystep 32 or my Drumbrute Impact only for clocking the DFAM. It works of course with the Mother 32 too with clocking, but than you have to check Sync on in the Preferences and as you said the Mother 32-Sequencer always start automatically. With the DFAM together a tutorial would be nice too. :)
I only have the M32. Glad you liked the vid. Just released a new one today :(
Absolutely amazing video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Subscribed!! :)
Thanks buddy :)
that "b-roll coolish-coffee-pour-over-synth is a no go..
I like to live dangerously
This is a super helpful video: wanted to see if it was possible (latency wise) to sequence my modular via a midi interface with push through ableton
Totally doable!
I Love all of these ideas could you tell me if its possible to create this midi chain without having midi sockets on an interface.
Thanks
It may work with USB but I wouldn't recommend it!
Firstly brilliant video editing is so clean I recently purchased my first synth and I've been struggling to set it up correctly I noticed you send midi to your audio interface but I'm unsure how the midi gets to your external insturements like is the scarlet 18 a midi interface also I've been sending midi through usb but it doesn't seem to ever line up using arps and stuff really unsure if the correct way to sync it up...
Keep smashing these videos out man I love this channel 🐈
Hey thanks buddy.
This is the MOST common problem. I specifically don’t use usb cables in any of my set up videos but people keep using them 😂
take that usb out of your synth and throw it away. Grab yourself a 5 pin MIDI cable and connect that from you audio interface and to your synth. The scarlet 18i8 is a midi interface. Most basic audio interfaces are.
@@mredrollo Thanks for the speedy reply!
I bought a berringer interface i don't think this one has midi input I will take a look in the morning it's 12pm here
If it doesn't I will get a new interface because it's been driving me crazy 😂
what a great vid again. i was just literally stuck with this latency stuff. hope i'll be able to fix it with the help of this vid! in the video i saw you stopping multiple clips with 1 button on the push, how 'd you do that? really appreciate the work you're putting in for these quality vids
Ah awesome. Yeah latency can be the death of creativity. Let me know if you are still running into issues. Well spotted with stopping multiple clips on push. My drums are all within a group and I’m triggering the group stop button which will stop anything in that group :)
@@mredrollo thanks, will do. I'd like to run the tr-8 and a few other synths at the same time from ableton so i can turn some knobs live, but also be able to record the keys from my synths. Not sure if thats asking too much from my setup. Anyways i ll try and figure it out first.
Ah good to know about the group stop button!
I love the song sometimes I watch this to just listen to the song just wanted to know if you released this masterpiece if so name? Thanks this was great
I never finished this one no. You’re not the first to say this either! I really should revisit it!
@@mredrollo really consider it. it is so good! your a great artist!
What are these colored encoders??? Because they must be touch-sensitive.
Chroma caps, are not touch-sensitive
Indeed they are not. But that’s what they are 😉
loving the videos mate, big up ! i have a similar set up and my Dell XPS 13 isn't quite hacking all the multi tasking going on.... im assuming you re running a macbook pro ?
haha, a common issue. Yeah, an iMac Pro to be exact. However I run everything on a 2013 Macbook Pro for Live sets and is always solid.
@@mredrollo cheers man, next purchase 🙌🙌
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Question: Where did you get the custom knobs on the a push?
Watch my 5 Push 2 Hacks video ;)
Love the info, essentially I could do this with my Matriarch but instead of using the midi cable I would just use the usb 3.0 right?
Hey thanks buddy. I’m not sure what that is. But essentially yeah you could use the same set up over USB.
Hello my friend .. first to tell you that I love your videos.
I had a question about the push..what option have you used in scale so that the lights come out like this on the pads. ??
What scale are you using?
Ableton Live 10 Si vous Aka GIB thanks mate! This is just C major scale but in Chromatic mode on Push. You’ll find it when you select Scale on Push :)
Thank you for this video! Can you get these types of synth sounds online as a downloadable patch (free or paid)? without having to buy a full synth?
This is the most basic of sound from my Moog Mother 32, simple saw wave and a little filter envelope. Something similar could easily becreated using Ableton's Analog Instrument. Or, you could probably find a multi sampled downloadable instrument for a similar type of sound yeah for sure, but nothing will quite replace a delicious sounds of a pure analog moog :)
wowwww
Just subscribed, nice content really worth it! If you don’t mind a little help. I got a keylab mk2 for keys and synths and thinking to start in hardware (almost bought a mother 32 this week). Would you think that the best way is to start with a push 2 and a audio interface (maybe 6i6) and later get the hardware gear? Cheers, keep up!!
Hey, thanks for the sub! The best thing you can do is make the most of what you have in-front of you. I know it sounds cliche but it really is the best way to "get started". As you learn what you can do with the gear you currently have then slowly integrate extra gear so long as it serves an extra purpose to what you currently have. It's easy to get carried away buying gear! There are some essentials like an audio interface so 6i6 could be a good choice. I have the 18i8!!
Hi, my friend. I really like your videos. One question. How can you deactivate the mother 32 sequencer?
every time I press play on the project it starts working..
Is there any way I can disconnect the sequencer from the synth and have it not work>?
The updated firmware allows you to do this. Check the moog website
Is there a way to assign macro controls to the external instrument channels so the knobs on the push can be assigned to specific midi c.c.?
Sounds like there could be an easy way to answer that question 🙋🏼♂️ free download much? 😂
I don't follow
where did you get those cool ableton push knobs?!
I have a video all about this! “5 Push 2 Hacks”
are those covers you have on your push knobs? where do i get them?
Check out my video on 5 Push 2 Hacks ;)
this just popped up on my feed and just wanted to ask what kind/brand of caps are those on the push? i just got a used push 2 and kind of want to replace my knobs.
Djtechtools 😉
@@mredrollo i appreciate it!
Hey there. How about the latency if there are several tracks with plugins? Does it stay in time?
Usually yeah. But I rarely use plugins.
Hi, i'm completely stuck on something!
I have a few synths (Model D, Crave, etc) and whatever way i've got things set up with Push2 is not letting me play the pads on the 64 pad layout... If i go to the melodic and 32 step sequencers i can enter notes on all the steps, but if i go to the 64 pad layout, nothing is registering when i play pads... Please help!
Got sorted... I had selected "MIDI from the synth" instead of "MIDI from Push"...
Are you able to record the automation made on the moog?
As audio, yes 😉
Ey Mate! Where buy the colors knobs of the push ??
Check out my 5 Push 2 Hacks video ;)
I recently busted the m32 and all my gear back out of storage to set up a new pc based studio... I cannot get the m32 to play polyphonically(I know the m32 is monophonic) like you do @19.32... previous build did play as such... could trigger multiple voices via push2.
I am running through Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 gen2... I seem to be missing something in the link, tempo, MIDI settings... I think I had set the m32 as a control surface but there isn't a default one for it in Ableton so I believe I saw somewhere instructed to set it as a different default control surface and it worked, cant remember which one tho...
What am I missing? please help, any random youtuber.
thanks
Hey mate, as for the example you are referring to I’m just triggering the m32 with an arpeggiator. It’s still only single voicing though. Hope that’s helpful.
I just want something ware I can create music on the fly and not have to worry about mastering or my cpu crashing...
That's the main reason I'm not making music.. I've got FL Studio fire edition
Let's say it makes me crazy...
🥀🥀🥀🥀
i havemy microfreak connected with usb and for the life of me i cant get Ableton to record the midi coming out of it, everything else works
I don't own a Microfreak but for sending and receiving MIDI this will be set up in your Link/MIDI Preferences. The Microfreak should appear in your MIDI Ports list. Then make sure the corresponding Track column is set to On for the Microfreak Input. Hope that helps!
can you play the synth using push in key mode?
Yeah absolutely! I just chose to use chromatic mode :)
where did you get the colored knobs?
Check out my video “5 Push 2 Hacks” ;)
@@mredrollo will be getting both courses from you once the push comes in on Tuesday. Great channel. 👍
Really appreciate that :) please let me know how you get on with the courses!
So I have ableton, some synths, 2i4 interface, some iPad apps, and getting a keystep pro.................so now I want something with drum finger pads for rhythm stuff and such,and I can’t decide if I should add Machine, Push, TR8,Launchpad, digitakt or what?...........................do you think Push...........anyone else can chime in also..............?
push!! had the same decision recently. If you use Ableton. This is the best first investment by far!
@@manuelcorrea8669 I only have Ableton lite so I’m not forced to stick with Ableton but after researching, I think it might be good, do you think I should stick with Ableton or will I hate it as a noob
how does he turn on devices with the keyboard??
“0” 😉
@@mredrollo thank you 🙏🏻
homie has 1 analog synth.... if you can't get that 1 synth hooked up..... good luck.
Can’t wait to hear your music
@@mredrollo You sure about that? Might feel like you got cucked out.
So much love for the slim phatty
Or perhaps the mother 32?
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Hong Kong :)