Former IRA Members Share Their Experiences
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- A #short from Divided & Damaged: Northern Ireland's Peace Walls.
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This is completely edited by the way. Its from a TH-cam documentary called divided and damaged: the peace walls and the second guy was a loyalist. Not an IRA man and youll know that by the stuff this video left him out saying. The two of them became friends and do murals together between the falls road and Shankill Road
THIS
Thank you
Nice one mate it's an excellent doc. Unfortunately the modern attention span is up against all of us collectively. I include myself in that. I think we have bigger fish to fry together.
Thanks for the Update.
The same piece of shit that we're getting rid of ! .
Simply put, never trust a Hun
Ireland now has a new invader….
Has a sober family set foot on Irish soil?
@@juliusraben3526😐 wow .......
@juliusraben3526 Yes, the Gates Foundation and Big Pharma, we DO need to look out for the "little people" in these difficult times, Covid was an attack on humanity and it came from a US lab and was released in China just four years after they started to lose the war in the Middle East, thanks to Putin and Assad, whom they tried to accuse of carpet bombing his own people just like the WMD's of Saddam Hussein which never existed but served as the justification for the illegal war in Iraq, backed by Tony Blair but led by the US.
The British Empire has been replaced by the US Empire and now we have to wonder about the sleeping prophet, Edgar Cayce's prediction about Russia and a new Christianity that would arise there. Will it be "militant" Christians like those we imagine in the biblical crusades (embodied in the rants of modern day evangelicals)? Or will it be Putin defending Russia from an overextended NATO and a war resulting from Obama and Victoria Nuland's coup and the Maidan massacre...
Time will tell but Russia is well armed and not interested in "conquering new lands" or "converting people to Christianity" like they try to scare us on the other hand with "we'll all have to convert to Islam" (Hollywood psyops).
It's all capitalism with (hopefully), some sort of healthy communism, again, if Belibaste's prophecy of "the good people returning in 2020 - see Pierre Belibaste, the last Cathar).
Interesting times, no more British Empire, we're now fighting pure evil in ourselves against the vaccinators and spy-phones, with Big Brother and Alexa recording everything on our phones on the CIA's and NDA's illegal overseas database and everyone loves it, thanks Orwell and Huxley 😂
By the way, I would say Bill Gates and Niall Ferguson are sober enough after Covid failed to make any major impact on population, as usual, Ferguson's predictions are more wishful thinking than anything else 😉
Yea they allow them to be invaded by the eu
Ireland is stupid
The second guy was a loyalist, not in the IRA.
Well spotted stands out a mile.
That’s right. I remember that documentary
The snare drummer in the beginning has to control his stick heights he’s gonna drop his stick because of how hard he’s hitting the drum
Wonder where he's at now
A member of my family got the jail option just as good!
England out of Ireland.
Britain
Restore the union, too much history between the british isles, mistakes were made, but we should make amends
Brits out, Nigerians in
@@Armed-Forever not after you starve, enslave, and slaughter our people
nope, ireland should come back to uk
Mark Ervine is a loyalist not a Republican
Let the Irish be free from the British. They’ve fought for generations and one day their dream will be realised. 🇮🇪
Being 'free' is being able to self determine you muppet. Northern Ireland being 'free' is being part of the UK. That's what THEY want. If you're talking about wanting the land they inhabit on, then good luck trying because neither the EU will allow it (Your masters) nor will the UK (The country that will kick the shit out of you if you ever tried)
Bye bye now
FFS you have the Euro free my arse.
Tell that to the Northern Irish that want to remain UK
i find it hilarious that you hate being involved with your neighbours yet are ruled by continental europe , youare not an independent country whilst under EU rule
In the meantime the Irish government is importing mass amounts of the third world to replace the Irish. So all the killing and bombing was to deliver the nationalist ideal for someone other than the Irish, so next time just remember nationalism is for the dictator to gain total power then sell your country out for wealth.
A united Ireland will come. Any patriots now should learn our native tongue and speak it to your children when they are young.
When will it come? Because the only way it's gonna come is an Irish invasion of Northern Ireland, and let's just say, your country's military, especially the IRA, absolutely suck.
Ireland is just a lap dog for Britain, change my mind.
And me being a unionist and I will refuse to speak your so called native tongue. What are you going to do about it?
@@DrivemapIt’s alright. Your children will learn it in school. Slowly but surely the unionists will be erased from Ireland. A stain on our history
@@callumhaines6874 I don’t have any children so what are you going to do about that quote you mentioned? lol
Also you say, unionists are going to be erased from Ireland?
What are you going to do ethnically cleanse all of us unionists?
@@Drivemap You don’t have any children. You’ve essentially ethnically cleansed yourself
“Opposition to TYRANNY is NOT TERRORISM”
The Irish colonised Britain first
@@RonSill1986 no…. No we did not. The Normans invaded Britain, then Ireland, then the Normans became the British Empire, and then Ireland was ruled with an iron fist. Ireland was occupied for roughly 800 years
@thomasbampton1713 the Scots were an Irish tribe that colonised Britain in the 5th century. The Normans didn't invade Ireland until the 11th.
@thomasbampton1713 the English were colonised by the Normans when they invaded Ireland. You weren't colonised by the English for 800 years.
@@RonSill1986 not true at all, you have a very confused history. Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic aren’t even the same branch of the Gaelic language family😂😂😂
My wife’s grandmother told us a story about how when she was visiting her friend in Ireland (she was from Scotland). They would have to hide from the IRA, like under the bed and in hay lofts.
That sounds hardcore, when normal citizens were targets too.
She didn’t tell you about the times when the British army would bust into a families house at night and shoot the father because they had “relations” with the IRA. The point is, it isn’t a one sided story
@@knightofrose115 oh absolutely. That whole situation was messy
Bullshit
Sounds bias
Belfast is Irish
Just Belfast? Would be a weird Irish exclave, but sure.
but still pay the crown ;)
And British 🇬🇧
Belfast is in the United Kingdom, bog slime.
I’ve seen more Union Jacks in Belfast than in most do the UK
When you're young you wanna fight for your country, your people.
Their lives. Equality in their own country. Justice. Greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for another. The British live and live by that. So why not the Native Irishman/woman😊
I lived through this it all seemed completely normal at the time 😢
God damn shame. The stuff my Dad and my autnies and uncles told me about this shit was wild.
Danny Deveney a great muralist and mark Ervine..
Oh I've got a shiny new helmet and a pair of kinky boots!
I'm a Belfast Brigade or SAM Song fan myself
Oh I’ve got a lovely flak jacket and a lovely khaki suit, and when we go on night patrol we ‘old eachothers’ ‘Ans!
We are the british army and we're here to take your land
@@sickheadsumaddy5231now you've given it to the EU who are flooding ireland with new planters , ireland 🇮🇪 will be a Muslim country in 40 years the UK 🇬🇧 too
@@Wazboomlast time I did a foot patrol was 1993, four man, spread out, dressed in black with 7.62 mm G3s. Out of XMG, trying to catch the sniper, actually had ‘em on comms, tried to triangulate their position and they bugged out. Strange that. XMG is crossmaglen for the fairies amongst us. Certainly no hand holding that night and definitely no FLAK jacket as you call it. Just four paras who passed selection to the proper KILLING MACHINE, from credenhill
Once in, never out.
Even if its da who is (rest his soul)you are as well
Truth is I lived through this ...
This is why Irish empathise with Palestine
Cowards who deliberately kill non combatants.
@@aokperson_damn right comrade
What conflict doesn't kill majority innocent people........ majority in every conflict sadly...is it wrong ? Definitely but that's the real world
No we fucking don’t no one in Ireland supports anything that going on in Israel and Palestine
@@aokperson_ read what I wrote again....and know it's not but that's what history teaches us every time it happens...fun fact... human beings are three times as likely to kill among their own species than any other mammalian species on earth
Respect, brave soldiers
You respect Terroists
They are terrorists
Brave soldiers you say… First of all soldiers do not fight with balaclavas on, and they don’t come up behind police men and shoot them in the back of the head. And they don’t go to a security force members car in the dead of night and place ucbt (under car booby trap) it was called back in the day. Wow brave soldiers my arse, cowards the lot of them and that’s both sides so called loyalists…
fuck the lot of them
😂😂😂😂😂
The IRA were notorious cowards 😂
Second guy is a loyalists... Opposite of the IRA.... Hes David Ervine's son ffs , one of the of the most well known loyalists politicians
This short is.... Stupid, Naive....
In any conflict if truth be told many combatants in the maturity of autumn years agree that the mayhem they were a part of was pointless in retrospective reflection. The Troubles Northern Ireland experienced is no different. People died for nothing, destruction occurred for nothing. People were maimed physically and mentally for nothing. In the end talking and agreement accomplished more than any physical force or imposition of one will over another. It is important that agreement is maintained and one side does not attempt to subjugate the other. Politics is a poison, an idol, that destroys people. In the end we each have little time here on earth and the time we spend here has direct effect on how the spiritual element of our existence travels beyond into eternity. I am in my autumn years, I have experienced much, pain and loss in this conflict, just like so many others irrespective if side or identity. I honestly am of the opinion that it was all for nothing and I reckon all such conflicts are the same. Live and let live, love, share, help your neighbour. Trust in God and pursue His perfect plan for us. Nothing else matters. If we do this simple thing and behave as He maps out for us, our journey will be much more pleasant and painless. The mortal end comes suddenly and in most cases without warning.
Probably the most satisfying post I’ve ever read on this very complex conflict of the norn iron troubles of which I did nine tours of. 1970 - 1993! Nine years as a parachute regiment soldier and 14.5 years in the 22 nd special air service regiment as a killer/ terrorist for the British government. Lost seven good friends over there, for what? Don’t get me wrong, we equalled the scores more times than that, but for what? Total waste of life, not forgetting the Ira in its many forms, and republican splinter groups, killed more catholics. Their OWN. Paranoia? No, just evil fuckers, loyalists too and believe me it was easier to fight in the Falklands than do Op Banner tours. I personally preferred the cuds, south Armagh o r Fermanagh or Tyrone, coalisland, pomeroy and the like. Belfast and Londonderry was brutal. Ingenious evil bastards always had a trick up their sleeves. Yes it was naughty AND we all got away with MURDER. 😂😂😂😂
@@numbnutz7832 I empathise. Bad evil people on both sides and for what, flags, lines on maps, armchair generals sending the cannon fodder out to do their dirty little deeds and at the end profiting from it while the majority struggle to make ends meet. A close look at many of the big names from the era and beyond to more recent times proves that. A very affluent outcome for some but not for the many. And the circle keeps turning but hopefully real thinkers see through the bull and do what is right and proper. Hope so anyway.
Active service 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a way to live. No thank you. You miss out on so many opportunities to live a full life with that mentality. But, I'm speaking as someone who doesn't come from the area. I wish peace for Ireland. But it starts with changed minds and hearts.
What a fool
Catholics weren't given opertunity wake up
@@WjfhdhShshshsh You have completely missed the point of my message.
Free Ireland ✊👊
Free it
good lad
Rule brittania
@@A27crommwell Nah Celtics rule
Ireland is an independent nation though? What are you talking about?
If you mean Northern Ireland, then that's a separate country belonging to the UK, sooo, yeah, ireland is never gonna get northern ireland in a million years
No fucking appolagies god speed
nah, they should after killing kids for liking the british or being a certain religion.
Stupid is right my friend!
Love is truly important and It is truly worth holding fast
It's better to be in jail for love than to kill for your own death
Jesus Christ thought us to love and He also said this:
John 12:25
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
Meaning this:
Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Too many of them are still alive
I only found out May this year that my great grandfather on my Nannas side (her Father) was killed during the “Irish Civil War” it was never mentioned ever, my Mum only learnt this year aswell! It was the “family secret” that he was Ogliegh Na Eirean (I think it’s this? Still trying to learn it) the Anti-Treaty IRA. Maybe they were Ashamed? I’m not sure? My Nanna was 5 weeks away from being born when he died, so she never really knew him as he wasn’t spoken about? They moved to Liverpool pretty much straight after he was killed. So now I’m really interested in trying to find out more about this time in Ireland, there are so many different books, Podcasts and Documentaries on the subject, it’s kinda overwhelming on choice. Can anyone maybe stear me in the right direction on day the best books to read, Movies or Documentaries? I’d be really really appreciative. Due to boring dumb Cancer sh!t I have a lot of spare time on my hands atm 😉 and trying to keep my mind occupied, you know the score. Anyway, I hope someone give give me a hand. Wear Suncream and stay safe ha. Cheers from Australia.
Ps. I know this is a very divisive and controversial topic but I’m trying to learn more about it so I’d like to get recommendations from everyone, both sides. I don’t think I’m too Naïve, and I’m not trying to be flippant or cause a shit show in the comments section, just trying to educate myself and hopefully my kids. So please don’t come at me! Haha. As an aside, my Nanna (Catholic) and my Grandad (Protestant) from Wales had to get married in a back vestibule of the church and many of my Nannas family refused to attend the wedding 😬 which I also only just found out about.
There is a Rte documentary about the Civil war that's really good . I think it's narrated by Brendan Glesson or Cillian Murphy. You should check out , hope you are on the mend .
@@hughmcnamara1790 thank you Hugh mate. Much appreciated. I’ll hunt that down. I’m doing ok thanks, one day at a time hey. Cheers
@@TheSonicdruid72 no worries mate. There is also a good book called a Between two hells, the Irish civil war . Really good.
@@hughmcnamara1790 thanks Hugh mate, I’ll look them up too! Cheers
Dude looks 80 and has a voice of a 30 year old lol
It is terrible that this is so nostalgic. You're just encouraging kids and you know it !!!!!
The I(rish R(an A)way were absolutely humiliated and failed in their most basic stated goal of a united Ireland.
I never understood why my grandmother and her family had to immigrate to Canada because of her never speaking about her childhood sad most of these people had no choice either fight or be enslaved though I never had to go through this I feel immensely sad for my dad's mom's family having to leave family behind
The Irish enslaved Britons for centuries before the British empire. They arent the angels they maje themselves out to be
It was nowhere bad enough to drive people to emigrate. Much of NI was safe and free from violence
Who was gonna enslave your grandmother
Enslaved??? Not very bright then
dumbest post alert
Tragic. Throwing themselves into a future of either a grave or a prison cell, you can see the regret in the second man's eyes 😔
Second guy isn't IRA
Second guy was a loyalist not in be ira he was British
Let's not forget the reason for that. Root cause was the British occupation. Without occupation no IRA would exist. I say that because it's more relevant today then ever.
@@s.b.662 That's just an excuse. Every bad guy has some sob story as to why he (or she) "did that thing".
@@invisibleman4827 Occupation is an excuse? So what's the excuse for occupation? What's the excuse for British soldiers torturing irish and IDF torturing Palestinians? As long as there is occupation there is resistance. Mandela was called a terrorist by the way.
Most of the high kings of Ireland “.the original knights of the round table🪩”were sent out on slave ships to colonise the uninhabited areas deemed to dangerous for mere men, the knights had the protection of light to colonise 🏴🐉✌🏻
look at the losers crying in chat lmfao
Telling. Just stupid and ill considered options. The folly of youth.
Cowards who planted bombs in High streets and ran away !
Versus the cowards who gun down young children and innocent civilians who break into peoples houses and destroy them and the soldiers who dress as civilians and act as death squads acting under the direction of the british goverment.
where is the full documentary?
It’s called end game in ireland
Members of Sinn Fein I take it. The struggles goes on without you.
I dont care what land you come from or what you are made to believe by the media. If someone came and invaded your homestead, then its natural you stand and fight for what is rightfully yours! Only the bravest made the choice of jail or death and created the Republic of Ireland we know today 🇮🇪 Tiocfaidh ár lá
Exactly what happened to the people of ulster. Also the reason why there isn't a united Ireland already.
Did you know that it was the Normans who invaded Ireland when the English were under Norman rule. One of the reasons the Normans invaded was because the Irish wouldn't stop invading England and Wales. But i agree 👍
They also committed acts of terror. If the Irish want their independence, I say let em. They should have that right. But to imply the people blowing up civilians are anything other than terrorists is a farce.
Free Ireland free palistine
What?
@@hazarush free Ireland and palistine from the ashke-nazi .
@@fmorris1563 wtf is ashke Nazi??
@HAZARUSH the represent 99% of jews from the khazar region of Europe they are the ones killing everyone in palistine and taking land. They also have a grip on Ireland...
I disagree with the first one Ireland and northern Ireland are different countries deal with it
A just wanted opportunity for my kids 🇮🇪
You can tell the 2nd guy doesn’t really believe what he’s saying, he a has a certain twinkle in his eye where you can see him reminiscing on old times.
Ya he’s saying what he used to believe. The full documentary is brilliant
The 2nd guy was a Loyalist and the twinkle in the eye is because he's near to tears.
He’s a prod, throwing stones and insults over a wall. Where’s mad dog and sammy mac when you need a bit of action? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I keep confusing it with the IRS
I quite like Sundays, a nice day off.
The Irish were quite happy to help colonise the US!
Bro what? 😂
@@irishduck2826I think he's talking about the irish diaspora
You wont see a provo with the name Ervine , love from Glasgow
up THE IRISH
Are we really reducing such interviews to a fucking youtube short now? Jesus christ that is sad.
Ao sad that they got sucked into this cycle of violence…all over lines on a map
Or fighting to keep what is yours. UK still owns ports in Ireland. Maybe they were fighting to keep their land, money, food, freedom of religion, way of life. Not for lines on a map
What a useful and productive life
Heros
Villains
@@Captain_hadley_49 nah heroes clown the villains were pushed out of ireland.
you keep your cowardly mouth shut.
They killed more catholics
@@Captain_hadley_49Yeah the British Empire
Terrorists. If they blew your child to pieces you wouldn't call them heroes. Do you think those that hit the Twin Towers were heroes?
Thank you for your service.
And slaughter of innocent civilians
Their not even a real Military Ireland doesnt have one
@@Captain_hadley_49 Your government has slaughtered countless innocents, be careful boy.
@@Captain_hadley_49 the "men" they were fighting against killed three times the civilians
@@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195we do, the irish defence forces.
Heroes of ireland 🇮🇪god bless them
Killers of Ireland
Youre joking arent you? The IRA were just as bad as the UVF, the man at the end literally said looking back at his thoughts when he was in the IRA was that they were stupid and Naive
Six of one, half dozen of the other.
No such thing as a “former” IRA man 😂😂😂
Some things worse than the grave.
These men and women are heroes! Who risked their life to free their land and the land of their fathers and grandfathers from criminal occupation.
Put you're fur boots on.
Being 'free' is being able to self determine through democratic means. Northern Ireland being 'free' according to the people there , is being part of the UK. That's what THEY want. If you're talking about wanting the land they inhabit on, then good luck trying because neither the EU will allow it (Your masters) nor will the UK (The country that will kick the shit out of you if you ever tried)
Time to get over it, it's pathetic at this point.
Enjoy your new friends the muslims
We're not racist. We welcome Muslims in need of a home. Coming to Ireland with respect to Ireland. Unlike the English.
easy to say that behind your keyboard
My dad wouldn't talk about his IRA friends.
good. no grassing
He never really spoke about his past. He was a reserved man. If you needed to know something he told you. If you didn't he didn't.
I ain’t a amazing but I’m not a orangemen
The ‘troubles’??? Isnt it coloniolism? One county still occupying land of another state?
All spoken in english . Speak your own language.
Im all for Ireland being united, but I really dont like the IRA. The way they were fighting, strapping innocent people into cars and blowing them up, stuff like that, was seriously fucking horrible.
@@aokperson_ the IRA sucks
@@aokperson_ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb
If the Irish want to be independent, i say let em. But the IRA ARE terrorists. Car bombings are incredibly cowardly and evil.
That was at the end though. Sick little turds. RIP Andy Grundy, patsie Gillespie and the six Kingos murdered at victor two. Over thirty years ago. Where does time go?
Original Palestinians
They are all kiddy fiddlers
@ TheTaytay4455 Just like catholic priests
Thank god for everyone that stopped that war
The IRA shouldn’t have given up their guns to Britain, because they already broke their good Friday agreement
Much respect to the brave from 🇫🇷
What type of IRA, the real ones? Or the brutal Mf’s?
You asked god for independence and he gave you it their was nothing stupid about it
Love The Irish, Love from Edinburgh Scotland, Freedom Fighters. Ending up dead is nothing,it comes to us all anyway,Fight for what you believe in,don't stop til the Grave. 👍👍
100%
No Surrender 🇬🇧✊🏻🇬🇧
Gangsters are always gangsters. whether your citizen in the IRA or hide behind badges and use the law in order to commit crimes against citizens your a gangster.
These be freedom fighters
@@Leotv19 these be murdering scumbags.
@@filmneek nah not at all
@@Leotv19 the families of their murdered innocent victims would beg to differ.
@@filmneek fuck em
The irish were enslaved by the vikings and sold to the US hahahahaha. Thats that american education right there haha
Irish people was defending
🇬🇧
Hello fellow British traveler!
I brought you a lovely Toyota. Come take I ride in it! Completely bomb free 😃🙏
🏴💙🤍💚🇮🇪
Big up the Irish ☘️
🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
you have a ukrainian flag and have the audacity to say "ireland" meanwhile its the british who has helped ukraine more than that nation's incompetence. (ireland)
Me da is a Protestant grand guy
Rename it: Interview with former terrorists. Glad these men are now ashamed of what they did. I wish them the best nonetheless, they will have to live with that all their lives.
No the real terrorism is genociding a native population and assuming political control of their country for hundreds of years. Come out ye black and tans!
I'm ignorant so please forgive me but why did Ireland want to be free of the English?
They stole our rights they took our food they killed our people and when we fought to get it back we were prosecuted heavily. Many people relate it to the current situation happening in Palestine.
Because the English government sucks ass
Why did America want to be free of the English, they were dictators, they killed people, I reccomend you research this and the troubles
They discriminated against them
@@roxannemackinnon2213 palestine
Look at Ireland now.. come on wake up
Is the term Fenian derogatory?
Yes
Idk, I consider myself a proud fenian
The opposite. You are comparing the person to Fionn and the Fianna. That is the origin of the term.
Depends on the context, if you’re insulting someone and you call them a fucking fenian than yeah, but if you’re just talking subjectively than not really because it relates to Fionn and Fionna and the ideas of the Irish being separate Celtic races
Is the term proddy derogatory?
Same thing happening in Palestine
Paedophilia?
Rule Britannia 🇬🇧
@@aokperson_and the Britons are no longer ours whats your point
We took 300 thousand Britons slaves into ireland
Real men. Fighting for their country
Irish independence while subserviant to the EU…….lmao
weak.
"Active service" what a joke 😡
They are saving their country
Well we know who you side with
Defending your country yeah
Real, fucking disrespect to genuine Irish and British soldiers who put their life on the line.
My friends where killed in active service, bombing innocent women and children dont count as active service
”We are the Billy boys” CRUSH THE CATHOLICS
U are about 8
Is that before or after The Billy Boys got bombed out of existence by the IRA?
@@mitchellwright5478 dont get me wrong no one is good in the Irish freedom bit the ira were not nice people no one was but not a reason to kill civilians because then whe dont understand you whe think whe are defending England from terrorist even if no you are defending Ireland but again dont kill us you nearly killd me nan and grandad why what did they do
@@admiralpigeon8271 it is a reality of war that people, including innocents, die. wars are not merciful or clean, they are bloody and dirty. which side is to be supported depends on what their goal is and whether they are actually able to achieve it if it is good.
the question of supporting the IRA is simple: continue or end English occupation of and imperialist capital export to Ireland?
i do not know the situation of your nan and grandad, maybe they were informants or working with the police or something? it is worth investigating.
imperialism will die in 50 years or less. your cause is hopeless.
Now we wait for the Scots and Welsh to join the forsaken of the isle
🫡🫡🫡🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
I feel for the non royalists in n.ireland. its not fun to live in a country chained to the shitshow that is the united Kingdom. Unify Ireland and Soar Alba