Those are pocket moeny... Compare it 3.5 B spent on bungie. No, PS5 pro was designed for quite a while, and prepared long before concord flop. The Price was set also before. PS5 pro is expensive, because there is no way to do it cheap. Could it be 599 with drive? yes. But they know this wont sell big. They know this is a niche enthusiast level hardware. And those people are buying Dual Sense edge for 199, headphones and all the top tier accessories, that ultimately are more expensive than the console itself. They will buy it anyway. There is no point for sony to price it low, or on the loss, wont make a difference in sales.
Would be curious to know how well the DualSense Edge sold. I was completely against it at first, but when my best friend bought it, I did the same and it’s since become my favorite controller. Otherwise agree with your point those buyers of the Edge, Pulse Elite, etc. are likely PS5 Pro buyers too.
I still own and play my PS4 Pro console due to financial reasons the same time this economy inflation will not leave no time soon. Until either they cut the price or they will stop making ps4 games I’ll will transition to the PlayStation 5 console and now the PS5 Pro console is about to be released the price is beyond outrageous I wouldn’t even pay $700 it’s unbelievable same time this inflation will not end. 🤦🏽♂️
It doesn't need saving, it'll sell out just like the PS Portal. Look how many negative videos came out about the portal, and that didn't stop it from selling out. It's an enthusiast product, and not a loss leader. It's console built solely for those who are unhappy with the base performance of the PS5. My only problem with the PS5 pro is that it's coming out a bit too late, and they haven't shown any games that'll take advantage of it.
Initially it will sell out for sure, but I’m curious how it will do long term. I’m just hoping it truly has a noticeably better gaming experience in person. They have not yet been able to convey that very well. I didn’t buy the Portal but that 30th Anniversary edition is looking mighty tasty…I’m 100% falling for their plan haha
@@GaminGadgets As long as they are selling it at a profit, they probably don't care how many units they move. They can always adjust the price later to fit demand. Just remember the PS5 was/is still selling well on it's own, and the disk drive is constantly selling out. They will @ the very least sell 12300 PS5 Pros 🤣🤣. I didn't even know they had anniversary items. Funny they don't have an anniversary disk drive as well. It would have been cool if they redesigned it to look like the old PS1.
why i have two pc's..... first one i wasn't paying 1000+ the second i built just for gaming. we have games running on 4090's that need dlss...... nothing is going to take advantage of a ps5 or xbsx.
I think that $599 would be reasonable considering the higher storage and slight graphics improvement, but what they should have done was discontinue the ps5 and introduce the ps5 pro at $499-$550 as a way to make new sales, like the switch OLED
Honestly the graphic imrpovement while there isn't significantly enough not only for that prime, but for your idea of discontinuing the regular PS5. The Oled model of Switch did not discountinuee the regular Switch either. The price is just a little different because the improvements are minimal: an Oled screen, slightly bigger screen, a little more storage memory, and a redesign of the dock to prevent scratching the screen.
Why is the PS5 PRO $699 dollars in the USA, but £699 in the UK! That's over $900 dollars or more than £150 more to is clearly a rip off in the UK, a punishment for Brexit? USA price doesn't include taxed but tax is less than 10% in different states, so still way cheaper!
I’m sorry they will never convince me that digital is the way forward. Pure greed while trying to kill the physical market. It will backfire while losing a lot of money. At the same token it will make the retro market ultra expensive…
I am pretty sure SONY expects most PS5 Pro users to get the drive. Missing disc drive is to cut down cost - apparently these RDNA4 chips are hella expensive. There is no point for SONY to subsidize PS5 Pro when they won't actually benefit from selling it. Personally I always said this year is too early for PS5 Pro - next year with the same chips it would most likely be easily $100 less with stand included ;)
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed, as I enjoyed making them. Although I may need to make the next one a non-PlayStation video. Accidentally about to become a Playststion speculation channel 😂
Another excellent video and discussion. For me, a non gamer for well over a decade but someone wanting to purchase a console again for my children and I to enjoy, bundle the premium Edge controller with the Pro and offer the premium tier free for 6 months as you suggested. This gives the consumer a real feel of something premium / pro which is certainly lacking as things stand. A Pro device should give the user a pro experience. Now watch this space as Sony tell us that power cables will no longer be included with future consoles and we will have to purchase those separately… iPhone 16 Pro Max anyone…?
Thank you and glad you enjoyed! Apple has been slowly reducing what they give the customer in the box over the last few years. I think this year they aren’t including Apple stickers anymore either which for them is a big change, and I’m sure it saves millions due to their scale. To the customers they frame it as a sustainability play for the environment, etc.
So much hyperbole.. People are too stupid to realize this is an option. Why would an optional machine dictate what happens with the mass market product?
Or... or... hear me out. Its meant to be a money grab, thats all. The graphical advancement is next to nothing. And believing the footage provided by Sony themselves is stupid to begin with. Time and time again it has happened that the company shows better footage than the actual quality you will get out of the box. I see this "launch" as nothing but an attempt to fix the losses gathered from Concord etc. The shareholders will be happy. Great video otherwise. Ps. The "30th anniversary editions" are just a money grab too meant create FOMO.
It is 100% a money grab! The PS5 Pro and the Limited Edition hardware is also meant to grab more money. They are pissing on us and laughing at the same time. The buyers are letting them get away with it. I will not! And there are many many like me. Sony makes me sick right now 🤢
@jouskehigaskita8835 here at Paystation we don't believe that product quality comes from the product itself. Instead we believe it comes from the individual users experience which is why we did away with all the buttons on the controller and is now controlled by reading your controller in braille. W.a.s.d like keyboard. And the screen is now a gif laucher. But hey don't worry. If you pay for enough gif packs you can unlock individual gifs that eventually make up the scene which you can than play the scene out in real time
@@GaminGadgets Their profit margins are insane. I bought Jedi Survivor in retail for €30 or €35 but it's now 50% off for €45 digitally, meaning standard price is €90. The list goes on. The games I have bought on disc both retail and second hand accumulate to 31.8% of their digital prices = 70% cheaper on disc. People think they get advantages eventually through sales but their are not as profitable and they are highly sporadic. Disc prices follow only one curve and that is downwards after time. Digital remains same price and hella expensive because of their monopoly and only occasionally do they go down in price, but even then more expensive than disc. This is the first generation I intend to go 95%+ physical.
The truth about the marketing is that Sony is walking a tightrope. When the PS4 released it was a push towards 4K. People were buying 4K TV''s and wanted 4K visuals. Sony could rightly say " if you play on an HD tv the PS4 is a fantastic machine, however, if you've bought a 4K TV, here is the Pro that will deliver 4K (ish) visuals. In the case of the PS5 Pro, they would be highlighting how blurry (some, usually 3rd party games) run on their flagship model. "But hey, if you want clear visuals.....buy the Pro". This undermines the PS5, which will be, by far, be the biggest seller. Hence the use of 1st party titles, that look so good on base model, you're hard pressed to see the difference.
This is actually a really good perspective, thanks for the comment. I'm sure the product plan/roadmap for the PS5 included the iterative "Pro" release with desired features, etc. Maybe they couldn't push it as far as they wanted with the Pro given the inflationary/cost environment, etc. I am curious to see how much better the 3rd party games do eventually play on Pro, even if they don't outright advertise it.
If I can get my hands on that 30th anniversary edition, I will spend the money on a PS five pro other than that it’s not in my future to buy one. I’ll probably just wait until the next General comes out. I don’t play games as much as I used to to justify selling my PlayStation five for a pro that’s only a little bit faster but that 30 anniversary one that’s gray I’ll buy that just because I’m nostalgic and I’ve been around since the first one I’ve been around since regular Nintendo.
Including the edge with a pro would've been amazing. I remember when xbox made their elite systems, and they would include the elite controller with the system.
If they want ps5 Pro to be 699.00, then not only they should have a disc drive and a vertical stand but take a lesson from xbox SS & SX where ps5 Pro can exclusively play backwards compatibility but if they aren't premium, they can't get trophies. That might at least get players to switch to Pro if players can play older games on the disc. If they want a digital only, should be cheaper and given a year of ps+ premium so they can play some of the old games and if they wanna continue premium, they can purchase it once it expires. This is what should've happened to the ps5 Pro especially if their greatest competitor (Microsoft) allowed their Xbox users to play their OG xbox, 360 and One can play on the series S and X. That would've got people to get the Pro.
All they had to do was make the p5 pro $550 Cuz THAT'S what the value of what you're getting with this thing! And they STILL should have made 2 SKUS like they did with the p/5slim. I missed out on the 4 pro Cuz I didn't think thyer would make a MID GEN REFRESH CONSOLE which was better than the base..... Cuz it raised the fps in some games, this one CAN'T do that Cuz the DEVS can't be bothered to work on a path for it..... Despite the power that they've said they wanted to do so! Also I just realized that... they're NOT making anymore disk drives... THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE IT WITH THE PRO! It's no longer a gentle nudge toward all digital.... IT'S A DAMN FORCE GRAB AND PUSH TOWARDS IT!!
They haven't made any games specifically for the PS5 PRO. We don't know what it could end up looking like right now they didn't release a specific ps5 pro game designed for it. They should have made a game showing off its possibilities but they didn't and that was a dumb move on Sonys part.
The headphone jack thing was very divisive at the time. BT headphones and airpods were not really great: it took 5 years to really improve on the battery tech and audio codecs only then they become viable and not sh t. Other phone manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon and really made themselves fools.
As a typical consumer and not a hi-fi audio expert I was pretty happy with the first gen AirPods - I'd just use them in the office or while traveling. Before that I owned Jaybird wireless headphones and even then, I'd still opt to use wired headphones on occasion since they weren't super comfortable. I think we've come a long way regardless!
The problem is an all digital console will never be a superiors just having all your games on PC you don't have to struggle to hit 60 FPS an sharper visuals. PC are becoming more affordable
Assuming Sony makes 200 dollars per unit sold, they only need to sell 2 million world wide to recover the loss of concord. If its less then they need to sell more and so on and so forth. They probably are going to make more money from the stand and disk drive. If the disk drive continues to be out of stock 99% of people will go digital. Already 90% are fully digital
Sony never should've released a pro version. It's a slap in the face to consumers that maybe just got a ps5 within the past year. It took a long time for people to get a ps5 this gen. Now devs are going to get even more lazy and target the ps5 pro specs. Even then, a ps5 pro is still only reaching 30 fps in games.
PS5 Pro is not a platform but it is premium version of already existing console. Even Xbox Series X sells much worse than S even if difference in GPU performance is 3 times and its no disc drive with no ability to connect one and price difference just $150. Obviously PS5 Pro sales won't be that big. What will be a big win for everyone is when PS6 is released people will be able to play PS5 Pro versions even if game don't get PS6 patches just like I didn't get PS4 Pro but today existence of PS4 Pro makes games I play much better looking or running at 60fps versus 30fps. Besides if current price is set so high for SONY to not loose money on PS5 Pro I am totally fine with it. I would like for SONY to subsidize PS5 Pro but if they choose not to I am fine with it
The Slim and Pro does come with a stand, it's just a horizontal one. The original came with a stand that did both. The newer one had to split vertical and horizontal because of form factor.
The PS2 footage hit me hard 🤣 Sony started the diskless trend with the PS GO. Did everyone forget about that? Disks have been dead for awhile. Initially I was against it, but with storage being so cheap and download speeds being so good… who needs it!
I still mostly like my physical media, however I made an exception buying the digital version of Call of Duty the past two years because it’s convenient to just jump online with friends if I have another game already in the disk drive.
You can’t argue about the disk drive it’s worse without it,ps5 owners who would want a pro were early adopters and enthusiasts that bought the disk version and have a huge library of disk games.They are in the know and buy disks as they are cheaper as they can be bought used and traded and are a physical item you own and you aren’t railroaded into price gouging on one online platform.You can also play offline which is important if you have bad internet.
Discs are not dead. Especially since they are 30% the price of digital games. Forget about your 50% off prices, they are still more expensive than what I spend on average on disc games.
Honestly good to see these responses as it gives me more perspective. In the Uk are games £70? If so, that’s almost $100 US and that’s absurd for sure.
@@GaminGadgets I’m happy with my ps4 games are still coming out for it the physical release of tomb raider trilogy and black ops 6 but I don’t care about cod
Have you ever even thought about what it costs to make the thing? Maybe AMD and Nvidia should sell their graphics cards at a loss because of entitled gamers...
This PS5 Pro is already in trouble am I surprised no is this a good thing this is happening absolutely not. Can I cope with this I already am and hopefully PS5 used will go on sale and allow me to get one from a Pawn store one day.
With all the price hikes for nothing. I hope they’re in trouble. Only two outcomes from this. One, They wise up and start being consumer friendly or… two, They go out with the cocaine filled nonsense that Sega did. Sink or swim sony.
F*** Sony for not letting everyone buy the PS5 30th anniversary bundle.. why just 12300 units and why not let all country's have the opportunity to buy the bundle??
ugh... I thought "maybe I'd be getting one if I really want to" and I did want just because GTA6, but if you're telling me it's coming in "some countries only" that means here it won't come
@@JoseFernandez-cd7ew it's sad.. from what I understand, it's the only way to get the charging station in PS1 grey, and the PS5 Pro for that sake's.. why not make a couple million units and sell it in all markets, I'll bet it would have sold out, and let people who love PlayStation but isn't a scalper get it for the normal price.. I believe the eBay listings will be 3000+ USD.. and where is the og PS5 plates???
It actually proves my point that they did something unique to cater to specific fans, nostalgia lovers in this case, to get their interest. I fall into the enthusiast category but I’m also a sucker for nostalgia. That is, if I can even get my hands on one. I’m sure the scalpers and bots will be all over the 30th anniversary editions.
I'm only trying for the 30 anniversary edition if i can't get it I'm not going to even bother with the pro especially because it has no physical drive ! I only buy physical games period.
I’ve started buying Call of Duty games digitally only because of their new COD HQ thing they have going on, but otherwise I also only do physical games.
i have a question doesn't every console usually come with the controller ? the fact that you don't have a ps5 controller with you ps5 pro that already cost so much is insane
I subbed to you man but as soon as you said "you'd blindly pre-order the ps5 pro" just because of 'nostalgia' for the ps1 skin, I had to unsub bro. You a part of the problem.
Sorry to hear that, but I am a sucker for nostalgia! They would have hooked me with the special edition, even if it was just on the standard PS5 only. I missed out on the one they did for PS4 unfortunately.
I genuinely believe the hundreds of millions they lost on Concord is the reason for the arm and a leg pricetag
I wander how much the stand is
Those are pocket moeny...
Compare it 3.5 B spent on bungie.
No, PS5 pro was designed for quite a while, and prepared long before concord flop. The Price was set also before.
PS5 pro is expensive, because there is no way to do it cheap. Could it be 599 with drive? yes. But they know this wont sell big. They know this is a niche enthusiast level hardware. And those people are buying Dual Sense edge for 199, headphones and all the top tier accessories, that ultimately are more expensive than the console itself. They will buy it anyway.
There is no point for sony to price it low, or on the loss, wont make a difference in sales.
Would be curious to know how well the DualSense Edge sold. I was completely against it at first, but when my best friend bought it, I did the same and it’s since become my favorite controller.
Otherwise agree with your point those buyers of the Edge, Pulse Elite, etc. are likely PS5 Pro buyers too.
@@GaminGadgets stick drift..
the ps5 pro has a ryzen 3700x processor lmao@@randalldraco3822
I still own and play my PS4 Pro console due to financial reasons the same time this economy inflation will not leave no time soon. Until either they cut the price or they will stop making ps4 games I’ll will transition to the PlayStation 5 console and now the PS5 Pro console is about to be released the price is beyond outrageous I wouldn’t even pay $700 it’s unbelievable same time this inflation will not end. 🤦🏽♂️
It doesn't need saving, it'll sell out just like the PS Portal. Look how many negative videos came out about the portal, and that didn't stop it from selling out.
It's an enthusiast product, and not a loss leader. It's console built solely for those who are unhappy with the base performance of the PS5.
My only problem with the PS5 pro is that it's coming out a bit too late, and they haven't shown any games that'll take advantage of it.
Initially it will sell out for sure, but I’m curious how it will do long term. I’m just hoping it truly has a noticeably better gaming experience in person. They have not yet been able to convey that very well.
I didn’t buy the Portal but that 30th Anniversary edition is looking mighty tasty…I’m 100% falling for their plan haha
@@GaminGadgets As long as they are selling it at a profit, they probably don't care how many units they move. They can always adjust the price later to fit demand.
Just remember the PS5 was/is still selling well on it's own, and the disk drive is constantly selling out.
They will @ the very least sell 12300 PS5 Pros 🤣🤣. I didn't even know they had anniversary items. Funny they don't have an anniversary disk drive as well. It would have been cool if they redesigned it to look like the old PS1.
why i have two pc's..... first one i wasn't paying 1000+ the second i built just for gaming.
we have games running on 4090's that need dlss...... nothing is going to take advantage of a ps5 or xbsx.
I think that $599 would be reasonable considering the higher storage and slight graphics improvement, but what they should have done was discontinue the ps5 and introduce the ps5 pro at $499-$550 as a way to make new sales, like the switch OLED
Honestly the graphic imrpovement while there isn't significantly enough not only for that prime, but for your idea of discontinuing the regular PS5.
The Oled model of Switch did not discountinuee the regular Switch either. The price is just a little different because the improvements are minimal: an Oled screen, slightly bigger screen, a little more storage memory, and a redesign of the dock to prevent scratching the screen.
F that. $499 for the pro. Disc drive included.
With disc drive I would be agree with that
Why is the PS5 PRO $699 dollars in the USA, but £699 in the UK! That's over $900 dollars or more than £150 more to is clearly a rip off in the UK, a punishment for Brexit? USA price doesn't include taxed but tax is less than 10% in different states, so still way cheaper!
I’m sorry they will never convince me that digital is the way forward. Pure greed while trying to kill the physical market. It will backfire while losing a lot of money.
At the same token it will make the retro market ultra expensive…
I am pretty sure SONY expects most PS5 Pro users to get the drive. Missing disc drive is to cut down cost - apparently these RDNA4 chips are hella expensive. There is no point for SONY to subsidize PS5 Pro when they won't actually benefit from selling it.
Personally I always said this year is too early for PS5 Pro - next year with the same chips it would most likely be easily $100 less with stand included ;)
Your last video got me here. But may i say, this is some high-quality content my man
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed, as I enjoyed making them. Although I may need to make the next one a non-PlayStation video. Accidentally about to become a Playststion speculation channel 😂
Another excellent video and discussion. For me, a non gamer for well over a decade but someone wanting to purchase a console again for my children and I to enjoy, bundle the premium Edge controller with the Pro and offer the premium tier free for 6 months as you suggested. This gives the consumer a real feel of something premium / pro which is certainly lacking as things stand. A Pro device should give the user a pro experience. Now watch this space as Sony tell us that power cables will no longer be included with future consoles and we will have to purchase those separately… iPhone 16 Pro Max anyone…?
Thank you and glad you enjoyed! Apple has been slowly reducing what they give the customer in the box over the last few years. I think this year they aren’t including Apple stickers anymore either which for them is a big change, and I’m sure it saves millions due to their scale. To the customers they frame it as a sustainability play for the environment, etc.
The PS6 will sell for $2k
it will be just an empty Case with a schematic on how to build the guts
It will still sell like hot cakes
@@contentbuffet4306 😁
So much hyperbole.. People are too stupid to realize this is an option. Why would an optional machine dictate what happens with the mass market product?
@@contentbuffet4306 Yeah, the scalpers will use their bots to buy it in 0.5 seconds.
Or... or... hear me out. Its meant to be a money grab, thats all. The graphical advancement is next to nothing. And believing the footage provided by Sony themselves is stupid to begin with. Time and time again it has happened that the company shows better footage than the actual quality you will get out of the box. I see this "launch" as nothing but an attempt to fix the losses gathered from Concord etc. The shareholders will be happy. Great video otherwise.
Ps. The "30th anniversary editions" are just a money grab too meant create FOMO.
Unfortunately I tend to agree, but trying to take a more positive approach 😂. I’m hoping they prove us wrong.
Thanks for the kind words!
It is 100% a money grab! The PS5 Pro and the Limited Edition hardware is also meant to grab more money.
They are pissing on us and laughing at the same time.
The buyers are letting them get away with it.
I will not! And there are many many like me.
Sony makes me sick right now 🤢
@@octavian1907the piss station 6 will be great
Idk man I can see the visual improvements and frame rate bumps .
@jouskehigaskita8835 here at Paystation we don't believe that product quality comes from the product itself. Instead we believe it comes from the individual users experience which is why we did away with all the buttons on the controller and is now controlled by reading your controller in braille. W.a.s.d like keyboard. And the screen is now a gif laucher. But hey don't worry. If you pay for enough gif packs you can unlock individual gifs that eventually make up the scene which you can than play the scene out in real time
Forget about giving premium. They had a short running 4% cashback bonus program but are about to scrap it because that's "too much".
I didn’t know this, wow. I would imagine they have their largest margins in their online services.
@@GaminGadgets Their profit margins are insane. I bought Jedi Survivor in retail for €30 or €35 but it's now 50% off for €45 digitally, meaning standard price is €90. The list goes on. The games I have bought on disc both retail and second hand accumulate to 31.8% of their digital prices = 70% cheaper on disc. People think they get advantages eventually through sales but their are not as profitable and they are highly sporadic. Disc prices follow only one curve and that is downwards after time. Digital remains same price and hella expensive because of their monopoly and only occasionally do they go down in price, but even then more expensive than disc. This is the first generation I intend to go 95%+ physical.
What can they do to make this not a flop? 3 simple things, all together. 1. Drop the price. 2. Include a disc drive 3. Include the stand.
Flop? Sold out is a flop?
@@lilqiqi619 how many is sold out? 3? 50? 100? 100,000?
I’m not paying €800 + price of the disc drive. Sony is delusional.
The truth about the marketing is that Sony is walking a tightrope. When the PS4 released it was a push towards 4K. People were buying 4K TV''s and wanted 4K visuals. Sony could rightly say " if you play on an HD tv the PS4 is a fantastic machine, however, if you've bought a 4K TV, here is the Pro that will deliver 4K (ish) visuals. In the case of the PS5 Pro, they would be highlighting how blurry (some, usually 3rd party games) run on their flagship model. "But hey, if you want clear visuals.....buy the Pro". This undermines the PS5, which will be, by far, be the biggest seller. Hence the use of 1st party titles, that look so good on base model, you're hard pressed to see the difference.
This is actually a really good perspective, thanks for the comment. I'm sure the product plan/roadmap for the PS5 included the iterative "Pro" release with desired features, etc. Maybe they couldn't push it as far as they wanted with the Pro given the inflationary/cost environment, etc. I am curious to see how much better the 3rd party games do eventually play on Pro, even if they don't outright advertise it.
If I can get my hands on that 30th anniversary edition, I will spend the money on a PS five pro other than that it’s not in my future to buy one. I’ll probably just wait until the next General comes out. I don’t play games as much as I used to to justify selling my PlayStation five for a pro that’s only a little bit faster but that 30 anniversary one that’s gray I’ll buy that just because I’m nostalgic and I’ve been around since the first one I’ve been around since regular Nintendo.
The vertical stand message is because they don't want to get sued.
Including the edge with a pro would've been amazing. I remember when xbox made their elite systems, and they would include the elite controller with the system.
If they want ps5 Pro to be 699.00, then not only they should have a disc drive and a vertical stand but take a lesson from xbox SS & SX where ps5 Pro can exclusively play backwards compatibility but if they aren't premium, they can't get trophies. That might at least get players to switch to Pro if players can play older games on the disc.
If they want a digital only, should be cheaper and given a year of ps+ premium so they can play some of the old games and if they wanna continue premium, they can purchase it once it expires.
This is what should've happened to the ps5 Pro especially if their greatest competitor (Microsoft) allowed their Xbox users to play their OG xbox, 360 and One can play on the series S and X.
That would've got people to get the Pro.
Most of the games are ps4 on premium
It's not like the console doesn't come with a stand. It has a horizontal one.
All they had to do was make the p5 pro $550
Cuz THAT'S what the value of what you're getting with this thing!
And they STILL should have made 2 SKUS like they did with the p/5slim.
I missed out on the 4 pro Cuz I didn't think thyer would make a MID GEN REFRESH CONSOLE which was better than the base..... Cuz it raised the fps in some games, this one CAN'T do that Cuz the DEVS can't be bothered to work on a path for it..... Despite the power that they've said they wanted to do so!
Also I just realized that...
they're NOT making anymore disk drives... THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE IT WITH THE PRO!
It's no longer a gentle nudge toward all digital....
IT'S A DAMN FORCE GRAB AND PUSH TOWARDS IT!!
They haven't made any games specifically for the PS5 PRO. We don't know what it could end up looking like right now they didn't release a specific ps5 pro game designed for it. They should have made a game showing off its possibilities but they didn't and that was a dumb move on Sonys part.
The headphone jack thing was very divisive at the time. BT headphones and airpods were not really great: it took 5 years to really improve on the battery tech and audio codecs only then they become viable and not sh t. Other phone manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon and really made themselves fools.
As a typical consumer and not a hi-fi audio expert I was pretty happy with the first gen AirPods - I'd just use them in the office or while traveling. Before that I owned Jaybird wireless headphones and even then, I'd still opt to use wired headphones on occasion since they weren't super comfortable. I think we've come a long way regardless!
I’m not surprised I thought it wouldn’t include a drive no surprise
The problem is an all digital console will never be a superiors just having all your games on PC you don't have to struggle to hit 60 FPS an sharper visuals. PC are becoming more affordable
Assuming Sony makes 200 dollars per unit sold, they only need to sell 2 million world wide to recover the loss of concord. If its less then they need to sell more and so on and so forth. They probably are going to make more money from the stand and disk drive. If the disk drive continues to be out of stock 99% of people will go digital. Already 90% are fully digital
Sony never should've released a pro version. It's a slap in the face to consumers that maybe just got a ps5 within the past year. It took a long time for people to get a ps5 this gen. Now devs are going to get even more lazy and target the ps5 pro specs. Even then, a ps5 pro is still only reaching 30 fps in games.
£499-£599 with disc drive was a better choice
PS5 is already successful. Did we rate PS4 success on the PS4 Pros success?
The thumbnail 🤣
Thank you 😅 I was hoping someone else found it funny!
PS5 Pro is not a platform but it is premium version of already existing console. Even Xbox Series X sells much worse than S even if difference in GPU performance is 3 times and its no disc drive with no ability to connect one and price difference just $150. Obviously PS5 Pro sales won't be that big. What will be a big win for everyone is when PS6 is released people will be able to play PS5 Pro versions even if game don't get PS6 patches just like I didn't get PS4 Pro but today existence of PS4 Pro makes games I play much better looking or running at 60fps versus 30fps.
Besides if current price is set so high for SONY to not loose money on PS5 Pro I am totally fine with it.
I would like for SONY to subsidize PS5 Pro but if they choose not to I am fine with it
This is a history repeats itself kind of like what happened with the PS3 and how it flopped!
This is true they had to adjust real quick.
Yeah I really don't understand why but the original PS5 digital and disc addition came with a stand so why not the slim and the pro
The Slim and Pro does come with a stand, it's just a horizontal one. The original came with a stand that did both. The newer one had to split vertical and horizontal because of form factor.
At least include a PRO game pad.
The PS2 footage hit me hard 🤣
Sony started the diskless trend with the PS GO. Did everyone forget about that?
Disks have been dead for awhile. Initially I was against it, but with storage being so cheap and download speeds being so good… who needs it!
I still mostly like my physical media, however I made an exception buying the digital version of Call of Duty the past two years because it’s convenient to just jump online with friends if I have another game already in the disk drive.
You can’t argue about the disk drive it’s worse without it,ps5 owners who would want a pro were early adopters and enthusiasts that bought the disk version and have a huge library of disk games.They are in the know and buy disks as they are cheaper as they can be bought used and traded and are a physical item you own and you aren’t railroaded into price gouging on one online platform.You can also play offline which is important if you have bad internet.
Discs are not dead. Especially since they are 30% the price of digital games. Forget about your 50% off prices, they are still more expensive than what I spend on average on disc games.
Disks are not dead. I love the ability to resell my games and have forever.
I feel like the Xbox Series S is the main reason why the digital console trend exists.
I complain about the ear phone jack being gone😡
This guy is in a total bubble I will never spend £70 on a game
Honestly good to see these responses as it gives me more perspective.
In the Uk are games £70? If so, that’s almost $100 US and that’s absurd for sure.
@@GaminGadgets I’m happy with my ps4 games are still coming out for it the physical release of tomb raider trilogy and black ops 6 but I don’t care about cod
What you say works in a healthy economy on the planet.
When there is no economy it’s over
Pro should've just been $600. 7 missing everything is pure greed.
$900 in Europe 🤦🏻♂️
Have you ever even thought about what it costs to make the thing? Maybe AMD and Nvidia should sell their graphics cards at a loss because of entitled gamers...
This PS5 Pro is already in trouble am I surprised no is this a good thing this is happening absolutely not.
Can I cope with this I already am and hopefully PS5 used will go on sale and allow me to get one from a Pawn store one day.
I’m gonna get it just to get the best experience in GTA 6
Please, tell the Name of the Background Music 🎶?
Sure! For which part of the video?
@@GaminGadgets Intro 🎷 Part ... that plays early on
@@killakame-3434 Gran Turismo 3 - Light Velocity
@@GaminGadgets Thank You :)
With all the price hikes for nothing. I hope they’re in trouble. Only two outcomes from this. One, They wise up and start being consumer friendly or… two, They go out with the cocaine filled nonsense that Sega did. Sink or swim sony.
Not without games.
Premium is not worth it
F*** Sony for not letting everyone buy the PS5 30th anniversary bundle.. why just 12300 units and why not let all country's have the opportunity to buy the bundle??
ugh... I thought "maybe I'd be getting one if I really want to" and I did want just because GTA6, but if you're telling me it's coming in "some countries only" that means here it won't come
@@JoseFernandez-cd7ew it's sad.. from what I understand, it's the only way to get the charging station in PS1 grey, and the PS5 Pro for that sake's.. why not make a couple million units and sell it in all markets, I'll bet it would have sold out, and let people who love PlayStation but isn't a scalper get it for the normal price.. I believe the eBay listings will be 3000+ USD.. and where is the og PS5 plates???
Contact your local scalper if you want anniversary edition
@@e8root haha yeah, the only thing I was able to buy was a Dualsense..
And by the end of the video, you let slip that you're part of the problem. Cool.
It actually proves my point that they did something unique to cater to specific fans, nostalgia lovers in this case, to get their interest. I fall into the enthusiast category but I’m also a sucker for nostalgia.
That is, if I can even get my hands on one. I’m sure the scalpers and bots will be all over the 30th anniversary editions.
I'm only trying for the 30 anniversary edition if i can't get it I'm not going to even bother with the pro especially because it has no physical drive ! I only buy physical games period.
I’ve started buying Call of Duty games digitally only because of their new COD HQ thing they have going on, but otherwise I also only do physical games.
Save the PS5 Pro??? From what exactly? Not only is it not out yet but there is no saving it required. Laughable but thank you.
Maybe from the enormous amount of backlash and ridicule they’ve received from just about every outlet having to do with gaming
Well we can shit on Sony all day 😂
But consoles still sell like hot dogs
i have a question doesn't every console usually come with the controller ? the fact that you don't have a ps5 controller with you ps5 pro that already cost so much is insane
The Pro will come with a standard DualSense controller.
Agreed
This will sell just fine, and now with the 30th-anniversary editions, Sony is going to get paid.
I subbed to you man but as soon as you said "you'd blindly pre-order the ps5 pro" just because of 'nostalgia' for the ps1 skin, I had to unsub bro. You a part of the problem.
Sorry to hear that, but I am a sucker for nostalgia! They would have hooked me with the special edition, even if it was just on the standard PS5 only. I missed out on the one they did for PS4 unfortunately.
@@GaminGadgetsI subbed so it balances out
If they just made it a disk drive console i would buy it.
Nope. PS5 Pro will do just fine Thank you Baby Phil.
It will be good!
No, only Jesus can save
I don’t understand why everyone is complaining about the price
LONG LIVE PHYSICAL MEDIA 💽💿📀
Most importantly, long live being able to purchase our favorite games and playing them as many times as we want.