@@mikemono2876 "The Quran is perhaps the only book, religious or secular, that has been memorized completely by millions of people." (William Graham (1993), Beyond the Written Word, UK: Cambridge University Press, p.80.) Really ?! No western taqiyyah ?
This brother has a point here.. And we might be underestimating this simple statement that he made. On a personal view, Im born Muslim in a strict practicing Muslim family. As per the norm, my parents sent me to Islamic classes to learn about Islam and the Quran when I was a kid. My religious teachers would make me memorize parts of the Quran. I live in a modern, developed country, and, as I grew up, I had easy access to many things which were considered forbidden in religion of Islam. I became ignorant about my religion and divulged myself in the worldly matters. Cut short 30 years later, all praises to God, God have helped me turn back to the truth. To my surprise, the verses which I memorized as a kid was still deeply embedded in my mind and i didn't have to spend any effort on memorizing them again. However, it doesn't work the same way for the nursery rhymes which I chanted many times as a kid. It was completely missing from my memory. In fact, I was quite dumbfounded at the senseless words which I was uttering in my pre schools. From this personal experience, It really goes to show me that the verses of the Quran are in fact easily embedded to people's mind and transferring this knowledge orally wouldn't be impossible. Ie, that's why till today, we are still reciting the same verses as our forefathers have recited.
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
1) there weren't millions of muslims in the begining of islam 2) people tend to forget 3) early mosque faced the wrong way and towards Petra and you think people are reliable?
Obedience is a sacred trait of the Muslim faith. The word Islam means “to surrender.”...what free will ? Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them. : Sahih Muslim 2749------ Allah wants you to be a sinner so he can send you to his hell.
David wood where you going...David come back...David why you getting in your car....david...David come back......folks David wood has left the building
@Adnan Nizam It is not permissable for you to say bro. Secondly you missed the evolvement of scolars opinions of Quran preservation. Admitting gradually what christians have said about the Quran👍😌🙏There is no Quran from the tablet of jennah. Two turkish muslim scientists said all oldest Qurans are not even uthmanic nor from Ibn Maliks time.
@@pr7049 lol, you are talking out of jealousy brother, bcuz you are having the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy the.....as your original bible 😅
He said he will preserve the dhikr, the reminder. Isnt this a term used for all the revelations? And he said no one can change his words. Doesnt this include all the revelations too?
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
@@MohOz Allah allows sxx with prepubescent girls this is pedophilia check it yours. from islamic website chapter 65 verse 4 - The Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate.The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their Iddah is three months like those in menopause.....The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation
The issue arose when western scholars falsely claime that the quranic text was standardised 200 years after mohammed and this was quoted as gospel, but recent evidence shows otherwise.
it was this man doesn't know history very well and unfortunately m not good at english enough to explain the long story . I only heard of this man from christian people who want to mock islam.
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
@@MuhammadFaiz-zr1np shokran you are a very honest person. There are many different Qurans with different words. Which is a problem since every Quran should reflect the exact revelation of Allah since Allahs words can not be changed. And which words would be on the tablets with Allah ? If every arabic Quran which is written in classical Arabic has the exact same words why are there so many different arabic Quran versions. This does not make sense. Like having 40 different Harry Potter with exact same words by different people 1, Qaloon Qur'an 2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an 3,Khaled QUR'AN 4,Idrees QUR'AN 5,warsh Qur'an 6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 7,Al- Laith QUR'AN 8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an 9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN 10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN 12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an 13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN 14,Hisham QUR'AN 15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN 16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN 17,Sulayman QUR'AN 18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN 19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN 20,Qunbul Qur'an 21,Showba QUR'AN 22, Ruwais QUR'AN 23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN 24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN 25,Hafs QUR'AN 26, Ruh QUR'AN 27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN 28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN 29,khalf QUR'AN 30,Ishaq QUR'AN 31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN 32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
@@maximus320 Quran recitation by Hafs has different words and different meaning comp to Warsh Quran recitation this means Quran was corrupted bc there is no 1 original Quran to which we could compare. Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. every Quran is the same word for word ? My behind
Hello I am a Muslim and m not even a scholar but I want to make few points I studied by my self and to correct few Historical mistakes you have made : point number 1- Quoran was written on the same time as the prophet. people thinks that the first time Quran was was written during the khelafah of Abu Bakar it is true That first Quran was (" gathered " ) not just written. 2- Quoran was written rocks and leither during the prophet time at that time the prophet asked those who can write to write nothing but quoran. besides the fact that they studied only Quran and the prophet always said when the holly spirit talked to him his face becomes red he keeps mumbling the words so he don't mix them 3- In Abu Baka (radiya Allahu anh) when muslimes that was memorizing the Quran who studied the Quran lit of em got killed so Abu Baker was afraid that Quran might vanish so he asked Zayed Ibnu Thabit to travel around and Gather the quoran and Zayed smthought that is insane and not possible and he himself he said that if abu Baker was asking him something harder thani carring the mountains on his back " but zayed remembered the Aya from the quoran :" انا نزلنا ال ذكرى و ان اليه لحافضون" god says " we made the Thikra and we shall keep it" m not good at translating to english but that means in arabic that Quran is saved from changing ( thikra was mentioned several times in the holly Quran referring to the the quoran himself) 4- Ibnu thabit gathered the Quran and he didn't put one word unless different two of the Sahaba (the close followers of prophet during his life) remembered that word. 5- The Quoran durring the profet age was told each word in each place the number of Surrah(chapter) and the number of Aya ( verse) so there fore Quoran was complete and to prove that the last verse in the last chapter was placed correctly when Quran was finished and the chapters were in the same order they were told but the numbers of chapters remained the same for example first vers in chapter was ever told islam was Iqraa ( although prophet at that time told them that this is verse number 1 in chapter 69) and that is one of the reasons Quran is miracle the prophet was illettiret how and where that wisdom and knowledge of complex arabic language came from? 7- afterward The khalifah Omar desided to make quoran in the same order that mohamed said becauss decided to make the chapters in the same order as the prophet asked them to be . 6- Quran had different writings after the abu baker era because islamic state extended and new writings appeared after that so thanks to god and ya subhana lah just like in Quran was said that this words shall never be changed in time of The khilafh durring Othman Ibnu Affan he noticed that Quran is written in different accents I would say because in each arabic country they had there own pronunciation and meanings and that is why arabic is the most rich language in my own rospective one word have several meanings , however before the new writings spread too much the khlaifah asked them to keep the original writing as the Quoraich clan tong the same clan of the prophet peace upon him , the same way his pronunciation was
Let us say Alhamdulillah for surely Allah says in the Quran al Karim that it is He Allah (God) who will use different methods of preserving the Quran. No matter what they say it is in our hearts and we have faith that it is 100% from Allah.
Atheists will argue regardless of any proof given. The mathematical code is always proof of its preseveration and divine authorship. Read 19.org/blog/on-it-is-nineteen/ 19miracle.org
@Hussain Mahmood Walaikumsalaam. Yea have you looked at it? It is proof the Quran is from God even though some people say it doesn't add up. 19 code exists in the Quran. There might be places it doesn't add up but several places it does. God knows best.
I can't speak Arabic at all with an Arab person. But I know close to 28 Surahs by heart and I can understand about 50% of the entire Quran without a translation. The Quran is truly a Sign.
@Random Person he taught me to ignore ignorance bulldoze the falsehood with Truth Truth that the the creator of mankind and the universe has a message for us and left us with a instruction manual a guide
Alhamdu lmLilah we are 2 billions Muslims. and it remind me of our Prophet pbuh saying : ليبْلغنَّ هذا الأمرُ ما بلغ الليلُ والنهارُ، ولا يترك اللهُ بيت مَدَر ولا وَبَر إلا أدخله الله هذا الدين، بعِزِّ عزيز أو بذُلِّ ذليل، عزا يُعِزُّ الله به الإسلام، وذُلا يُذل الله به الكفر» translation : Indeed, this religion will reach everywhere the night and day can reach. Allah will not leave a dwelling in a city or a desert except that He will make this religion enter it, thus, honoring the honorable or humiliating the humiliated; an honor which Allah will bestow on Islam, and a humiliation which Allah will inflict on disbelief. صدق رسول الله عليه الصلاة و السلام
Insecure Christians? Wait a minute, aren’t you the ones fleeing middle eastern countries to come to developed western countries? What language are you speaking and what language is being used in this video? Certainly not any high profile Islamic tongue. It’s English propagated by Christian Protestants. Not insecure about anything. It’s just simple to see who is moving to where and why. It is Muslims moving to western developed nations. Not the other way around.
@@eduardocastaneda9476 lol Eduardo name like that and you're talking about the supremacy of English lmao Your argument is weak and has nothing to do with religion. If you read history, which you haven't based on your ridiculous comment, you'd know all civilisations have periods of being on top. Currently the Western civilisation is on top after centuries of horrific exploitation and oppression of many many nations. Guess who helped support their historic crimes? Your friends in the Church. And then connecting that to current wars in the middle east? Which started after American and European incursions in to the middle east. Funny how your comment has nothing related to actual tenets of religion but a weird supremacist argument with little basis again highlighting your own insecurity. Know that even when Muslims are going through their worst periods their faith is still intact. Not sure if the same can be said for you.
@@eduardocastaneda9476 American's and it's allies destroyed Iraq, Libya on a lie that Iraq had WMD but found nothing but left it in ruins they are also behind the uprising Tunisia,Syria . So, where are these displaced people supposed to go when western countries destroy them . I think he's speaking Christian language or is it English I'm not sure ???
Real Quran is what is in the hearts of the Muslims, Huffaz. All manuscripts are copies. They are not original. There was never a complete manuscript of the Quran in the time of the Prophet. There were only people who have memorised the Quran. In fact written Quran came into existence when there was a fear that the original Quran which was in the memories of the Huffaz was in danger as many of them were dying in the battlefield. So if you want to verify the accuracy of the manuscript you have to call the Huffaz to verify the manuscripts and not vice versa . The manuscripts are not a means of verifying the original Quran, which in its original form, was in the heart of the Prophet. It was transmitted from his heart to the hearts of the companions. In fact this is what was done to produce the first written Quran, I.E from heart to manuscripts. What is a miracle is that the Quran is not assembled in chronological order i.e in the order of its revelation, yet it was memorised and assembled in its present order as directed by Allah Ta'ala through His Prophet. I challenge anyone to learn the Bible by heart in a disorderly manner and then recite it from memory in its proper order. The Quran is a reading book in rhythmic tones and the lyrics are precise. If a reader omits or changes a word the listener will automatically notice it. Just like in any famous song the listener will automatically notice any distortions in the lyrics or word omissions. Similarly the listeners of the Quran will notice any variations in the recitation. While the prophet was alive he was reciting it in the daily prayers. Recitation of the Quran from memory is part of the daily prayers. Once the prophet made a mistake in recitation in one prayer and he was immediately corrected by one companion named Ubay ibn Kaab. After the prayer the Prophet asked who corrected him. He was told " Ubay bin Kaab" and he said: I guessed it was he. " Allah orders the Muslims in the Quran thus: "and recite the Qur'an in slow measured rhythmic tones." THE LEADERS OF THE QURAYSH LISTENED TO THE RECITATION OF THE QUR’AN IN SECRET. While the Prophet was praying at home one night, the leading figures of the polytheists such as Abu Sufyan, Abu Jahl and Ahnas, stood hidden in the darkness and listened to the recitation of the Qur’an. Unaware of one another’s presence, they were so absorbed in the Prophet’s recitation that they remained there until dawn. As they were about to leave at dawn break, the three men noticed one another. Each began to condemn the other for listening to the Qur’an, and agreed not to do such a thing again saying that this would certainly raise suspicion and doubt if they were seen by others. But this happened again the next day, and on the third consecutive day the three men said “We cannot continue doing this!” so each of them vowed not to go there again. Clearly, the hearts were unable to escape from the delightful, fascinating effects of the Qur’an. However, aspects such as tribal ties, personal vengeance, the battle for leadership and jealousy was preventing them from embracing Islam. In fact the enemies of the Prophet were convinced that the recitation of the Quran has a mesmerising effect on its listeners. They warned everybody not to listen to its recitation lest they succumbed to its 'magical' effects. th-cam.com/video/m8FL2_JtM0I/w-d-xo.html And when they listen to the revelation received by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray: "Our Lord! we believe; write us down among the witnesses. (Quran 5:83) Yes, I have cried before and still do occasionally when reading the Quran. The first time I read it was when I was still a christian and I remember I was crying at one point thinking that these are the literal words of God, and then when I read the verse that said the christians will recognize this as the truth and tears will roll down their faces, which is exactly what I was doing, it made me feel so ashamed and embarrassed that I didn't know God before this, I then fell down on my face for the first time ever and tried to pray as the Quran tells us to. I'm sure I didn't pray exactly as the traditionalists would like but I did it as best I could, I cried to God to forgive me for forgetting him, for not knowing him, or worshipping him, and for associating others with him as I used to do. I swore that I was a Muslim and that I will die as a Muslim then and there, God willing I will. Kurt
"Conformity to what Muslims read today..." to what degree? Notice he doesn't say it is exact, word for word. If it was, he would say so very, very excitedly. I am excited for what Dr. Jay Smith and Dr. David Wood have to say about this manuscript.
I'm wondering how different an English translation of this older document might be. For myself I use the Yusuf Ali translation, arguably one of the more faithful renderings. Might anything be gained by translating this older Quran into English? Thoughts?
if the orginal arabic is same which means the meaning is same , The english of quran might translations differs only a little bit because it is very diffecult to use the exact words used in arabic language and exactly translate it into english , The words in English might differ but the meaning is exact the same in all english translations of Quran, However The Orginal Arabic Has always been the same , Anď many muslims (Mostly non arabs) also memorise tge entire quran in its arabic script with meanings . We dont the take the Translations to be the Quran , we just use them to understand it , The original arabic is always written in any Quran anywhere . Quran is 100% preserved . It the The 100% Fully True , THe Word of God .
Translation different based on your mother tounge languange usually using general context..so thats why when recite must in arabic(revelation languange) so the meaning or context not changes..eg in eg translation..iqra and uzlu..translate as READ..but the word in arabic different??why??the meaning and function clearly different..arabic crazily detail..nor you or satan can change it..al quran preserve in both way text and recitation..not by human by allah swt as GOD..if you try change it to english the recitation..it will be funny🤣you can try if you want..previous people already try that..many..try memorize then change it into text??the sound😎the oldest al quran..mushaf al imam..exist during prophet alive..abu bakar and uthman used these copies..😁actually..its the same meaning..just added a symbol and system(these not new-jew also have these system)so people who not arabs can recite it precisely..common 7 way recite..but actually almost 13..if you have time..every year my country international tilawah al quran..contestant from all over the world..eg arabs some of them cannot pronounce "r" or chinese ,english etc in arabic...we cannot force them..bcs they born that way..their tounge🤣even though we not arabs they weird and amaze why people from my race..can recite precisely..even arabs came learn from us..well thats a miracle..ha..ha..most cannot speak arabic but most can read and recite🤣precisely.
No difference really since it's the exact same text we have now. The only difference here is the writing style. The language writing style evolved into what we use nowadays as Arab speakers, which is why it is not easy for us to read this old one without the training he talked about. For example, a kid might not be able to read the Uthmani writing style, but it only takes a little practice to get familiar with it because it's relatively new (I pretty much practiced it alone as a kid as the difference was very minor). This style here shown in the picture is much older and hence requires a bit more practice.
A translation is always gonna be a translation But these old manuscripts are exactly the same as the arabic quran we have today, the arabs didn't use dots in the past and we certenly can still read it without dots.
We will never reach this level of authenticity for the ahadith (i.e Bukhari, Sahih Muslim etc)as we dont have hadith parchments dating back to the same time as the earliest Quran parchments. So we should never compare any ahadith collections to the written nature and recital of the Quran as hadith are nowhere near the same standard.
Well. we don't have a whole Mushaf dating from the 7th century, only from the 8th century and we have Authentic Hadith collection which is also form the 8th century. We also know that the Hadith was orally transmitted by the Sahaba to their students who then transmitted it to their students and from there we have written Books of Hadith from the 8th century on- wards. So a true evidence of the Qurans preservation is truly in the oral tradition. Same goes for a Hadith, a paper says nothing if we can't trace anything back to the Prophet. So, a authentic narration which is transmitted directly from a student of a Sahabi is authentic and when Allah says to follow the Sahaba in good, we need to follow what they tell us about the deeds and acts and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). What is commanded in the Quran is literally as important as the Quran, hence a order and a command or a commentary from the Rasul which comes to us is literally obeying Allah and His Messenger. So yes, we actualy have very authentic Hadiths and using your logic : The verses from the Quran that we can't find from a 7th century manuscript are not that authentic... or equally authentic to a Hadith narrations. This makes no sense. So, the Quran is orally transmitted and we have 10 schools to prove it which is more than enough. We have Quran manuscripts and full Mushafs and even if we have no full Quran (Quran of Abu Bakr for example), our Quran can be traced back to Uthman ibn Affaan May Allaah have mercy on him and on Abu Bakr as Siddiq. This is suffiecient for us. As for Hadiths, Bukhari and Muslim were not even born when Imam Malik's Muwatta was written. Maliks teacher was a student of Abdullah ibn Umar ibn Al Khattaab who was a Sahabi. So you have 1 person inbetween the Sahabi and Malik and Ibn Umar is known for the preservation of the Sunnah of the Prophet. So your criteria makes no sense. The written pages of the Quran are not enough since the Quran is recited and memorized and taught by the Muslims. What he have is the complete Quran and it oral tradition and its qira'at going back to the Prophet, this is the true preservation evidence which refutes any islam hater.
Abdullah b. Umar reportedly said: 'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived." References: Al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Volume 2, Page 25, Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti - Dur Al-Manthur, Volume 1, Page 106
My question is if Quran is so important why was it not made into a book while Prophet was still alive ? And why is there different versions of it now ? I don’t have a very strong base to begin with and now I’m genuinely confused :(
@@almiraalmira1451 yesit was written on leaves and animal skins but later after his death .Lot of hufaaz died .So then efforts were made to reproduce the quran in mushaf and companiom did it as the prophet told them
@@hashamkhan9517 Thanks for replying. While we have some philosophy books from the Greeks or the Romans that dates far back then the Prophet, just not sure why was it so difficult for the Quran to made into a book while it was still fresh.
@@almiraalmira1451 It was a book in recitation as the way we now have but not complete in parchment.This book was recited day and night snd five time prayers during the life time of prophet.yes companions wrote on leaves and animal skins but it was personsl copies during the time of prophet .There were many people during life of prophet who had memorized the entire quran. As far as memorization is concerned many people memorized it during the life of prophet pbuh but few people wrote it because majority people didnot know to write .it was arabian society which usually depends of oral transmission A arab at that times memorized the 1000 of poetry material .So knowledge was passed down orally this was custom in Arabs . While greeks and romans many people were litterate and know how to read and write .Usually writing was a custom to pass down the knowledge which is opposite that of Arabs.Scribes used to write the material to pass down to next generations.So you are comparing different socities with different customs. When many recitors died during the battle of yammama then abubakar Ra collected the entire quran in single mushaf zaid bin thabit was incharge who memorized the entire quran with prophet. So we had the complete written copy after one year of prophet pbuh. Quran was also passed after this by writing but its main mode was oral trsnsmissoon where thousands of people memorized and passed to next generation from the time of prophet pbuh. I hope question is answered
I dont understand why some Christians are agitated. Atleast Muslims do have all these evidences. What about bible? Where is atleast the fragments of the abrahamic Bible?!
This manuscript has only 19 chapters from 17:35-36:75. Where are the others? Eaten by a goat right? Go get the book n see for urself. Why do Muslims hate reading n only follow blindly?
The lines are for non-native speakers to clarify the vowel sound. For an English example equivalent, it is like the word 'C-A-T' spelled 'C-T'. Is it Cot, or Cat? Critics are saying the Quran is changed because of that, but it is just a clarification for people who are not native to reading Arabic. All the words are the same.
@Bible Bus 2.0 Zero doubt about islam because all doubts have been cleared but we have not only doubts but certainty about bible being false because of its contradiction, scientific errors, illogical doctrines etc.
The Quran fragment from the University of Tübingen in Germany has been dated to a period between 649 AD - 675 AD. This date means the manuscript was written about 20 - 40 years after the Prophet Muhammad’s death. Pieces of the manuscript were analyzed in a lab in Zürich using modern C14-radiocarbon and dated within a 95.4% statistical probability. The 95.4% is the carbon dating probability not the similarity to the 1924 Quran
@@levantino4704 Not by Yasir qadhi. Hundreds of scholars in thousand years time already answer this questions and objections over Quran preservation. Yasir qadhi is not the only Quranic scholar. Muslims should follow where the evidence leads. So Muslims should accept that variant of the Quran which enjoys most plausible evidence. No need of following Yasir qadhi. By the ways, you didn't comment on biblical problems that I raise.
As I understand it, the ink on the manuscripts can not be carbondated so you’ll never get 100% certainty. It would be fascinating though to compare the ancient manuscripts.
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
Obedience is a sacred trait of the Muslim faith. The word Islam means “to surrender.”...what free will ? Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them. : Sahih Muslim 2749------ Allah wants you to be a sinner so he can send you to his hell.
No matter what Christians tries to prove, Qur'an always been preserved... muslims have memorization tradition which no other religions ever have or had.
You are trying too hard but you’re not making any sense. There are holes n you can’t cover the many holes with one show. Tell us why we have 37 qurans with all the numerous variations
Wow wy wow he is saying it is a quart of the quran. And he also is laing this quran is not the same as today and it is 8 to 9 centurry dont belive me buy the book he is showing to you. You wil see. This guys dont belive in GOD THEY BELIVE IN YOUR MONEY.
I have a question that still bothering me. It is said that the earliest Quran is written without dots or called diacritical marks just like the current Quran we have today. 1. Is it permissible to add dots or diacritical marks in the Quran because Muslim know that Quran is the words of Allah and should be keep the way it is reveal? 2. Did adding diacritical marks and dots into the Quran consider change the words of God and make Quran not the only religious scripture that has not been change? I am a muslim and this are the question that i have keep on asking to myself.
the diacritical marks n dots were introduced as islam & quran had spread to non arab speaking/reading populations.. it helps them to read it properly without making mistakes .. was introduced during caliph uthman... even when it was collected n compiled some companions were worried as it was not done during the time of rasullullah s.a.w.. bt kudos to the companions.. we are able to read n learn frm quran.. 😀
Adding dots and diacritical marks doesn't change the text or meaning but only helps non-Arabic speakers with pronunciation. For example, if you are not a Farsi speaker and you receive a letter in Farsi, you won't know how to pronounce the vowels. Regular Arabic and other languages that use Arabic scrips don't use these helpers; that is why its easier to read Quran than those other letters bc Quran has these helpers for non-Arabic speakers. The 1st Testament in Hebrew had the same issue bc Hebrew, like Arabic, also doesn't have vowels.
Adding dots was for making it easier to read for those who didn't know the original text. The reason why zuber Zahir and paesh were added was for a similar reason: to make it easier for non native speakers to pronounce the correct vowel
The Quran means Recitation in Arabic. The text itself doesn't really matter, but how it's recited. These writing changes were done to make the recitation as close to the Quraish dialect; the dialect of the Prophet.
@@infinityApologeticsClips Funny that you as a Christian is saying that. And you appear in the comment section in almost every anti-islamic videos i've seen. Mocking and making fun of Islam. What a waste of life. You are truly a Lost soul, blinded by hatred and shaytan. Now, shoosh back to your Greek mythology Trinity God that shaytan has fooled you to believe in.
@@saifklee178 satan didnt fool them Saif, they fooled themselves, they hijacked horus and osiris life and replaced jesus life with osiris and horus and did this by themselves
Time always proves the Quran right, at this point non-muslim should just stop trying to prove the Quran wrong they just keep failing and keep getting proved wrong.
Shows how desperate a hater could be. She /he has to resort to something doesn't even exist to argue for. Please check surah num 32 and see whether is there such thing as verse 73 in it? There's none! You are ambarrasing yourself by showing your ignorance.
Forget about written manuscripts. They will always contain errors. It is not easy to write out an entire book without errors. Manuscripts are of historical value only. The Quran has been preserved through memorisation. It is because of this memorisation Muslim scholars can point out the errors in the written Qurans.
Lol what, you say it’s because of the memorization scholars are able to notice the errors lol.. what error if the Quran is perfectly preserved. Muslim scholars arnt the ones that are noticing the errors it the scholars of the west that are finding the errors. If it was really memorized then there wouldn’t be variances like there are now. Come on man it’s black don’t be nieve. Can’t believe everything you hear. How can Muslims think that Quran is complete if Aysha said (in Abu Ubaid's Kitab Fada'il al Quran) that Sura 33 had 200 verses but now there are only 73 verses it’s ridiculous
Br. Shabbir Ally I know this may be beneath you but brother there are these hate channels who are spreading lies and misrepresenting what your saying. Maybe if insha'allah you have 10 mins in your day you can address these liars.
Yes, because some hadith are contrary to what's written in the Quran. Can u give us the COMPLETE video where Qadhi said those words? Not the edited video of David Wood. Wood edits videos to suit him & fool Christians. Then people find out the truth & leave Christianity. It's kind of like 9/11. Lie about Islam and it gets more converts.
I live in Saudi Arabia and nobody knows whose Yasser Qadhi is. We understand the dialects of the arabs and we know for fact that the Quran has not a single word changed or corrupted. The Arabic language is multi layers in terms of pronunciation but the core is the same. Thats you guys are confused 🤷♂️ for us is normal day to day exchange within the Arab communities. Find another one. Otherwise you are welcomed to be a Muslim
When Ibn Umar-son of the second Muslim caliph-heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof’” (Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an). Sunan ibn Majah 1944-It was narrated that Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.” Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an-A’isha . . . said, “Surat al-Ahzab (xxxiii) used to be recited in the time of the Prophet with two hundred verses, but when Uthman wrote out the codices he was unable to procure more of it than there is in it today [i.e. 73 verses].”
Fyi medina its other name..land of migration..arabs from noah decendents..children of isreal(jacob-huge gap) enter LATER..so does religion of judaism and christian..petra on north..muslim didnt pray..that way..plus prophet muhamad s.a.w never enter that cursed land LOT nation..sodom and ghommorah🤣did you say bible copied from torah??they children of isreal not even worship jesus..when al quran reveal it doesnt have title a.k.a surah😂sometime revelation came down..while prophet in war..eat,ride camel,giving speech etc..it doesnt have specific time..sometime more than 10 months revelation not came down..sometime..just..one capital word..or short verses..sometime time..continuation..why??its a reminder..they just a messenger..previous revelation..like injil or torah..in single day..or not more than 5 days its not even thick like now..ya.the current version..already added..go check..if not belief.oh ya..most prophet muhamad s.a.w companion..90% of it not arabs..truth always hurt..there rabbi and priest among them..the diffferent they study and search..while you are not.
@@GardeniaInc "Petra on north... Muslims didn't pray that way": Wrong. The earliest mosques from the 7th century have the qiblas pointing in the direction of Petra. There are even mosques in North Africa which point in a direction parallel to a line which goes from Petra and Mecca.
sal joe everything in Islam has been updated. From the qibla direction to the Kaaba,black stone,manuscript even the wall they throw stones against shaytan has been updated 😂😂😂😂😂
Is there a hadith that says Sun goes down to the throne of Allah every night Sahih Muslim Plz answer plz Plz plz. If there is can you please explain that
You can look this up on Sunnah.com. I found: "I asked the Prophet (ﷺ) regarding the Verse:--'And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term decreed for it.' (36.28) He said, "Its fixed course is underneath Allah's Throne." Sahih al-Bukhari 7433 and: "I asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) the (implication of the) words of Allah, the Exalted: The sun glides to its appointed resting place. He replied: Its appointed resting place is under the Throne." Sahih Muslim 159
The explanation is Muhammad was a primitive man who made up whatever he thought his followers would like to hear. I found another: "Once I was with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque at the time of sunset. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Abu Dharr! Do you know where the sun sets?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know best." He said, "It goes and prostrates underneath (Allah's) Throne; and that is Allah's Statement:-- 'And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (decreed). And that is the decree of All-Mighty, the All-Knowing....' (36.38)" Sahih al-Bukhari 4802
The 30 refers to juz/sephara which are equal divisions of the entire Quran so you can read/recite it in equal parts over a month of 30 days. It's the same Quran - not different versions. People have been memorizing it for centuries and still do. If you want to see for yourself, I would suggest you go to a mosque during the months of Ramadan for the Tahajjud prayer: the Hafiz will recite the entire Qur'an (all 114 chapters) in equal parts over a period of 30 nights from memory and loudly for all to hear and follow along in their Qurans to make sure no mistake is being made.
“O mankind, indeed the promise of Allah is truth, so let not the worldly life delude you and be not deceived about Allah by the Deceiver.” (35:5) Where did Jesus claim divinity?
Why do you Christian apologists waste your time insulting muslims unless you have some hidden jealousy inside you or a bored 30 year old that still living with mommy and daddy?
Based on my mathematical research i have found out that the most accurate Quran is the Othmani TAHa. For ex the 1st chapter 3rd verse is the King of the day of The Religion. The second reason is verse 6 صرط is true not صراط. In this way the 1st word amounts to 102, 1102 = 19 ×58, 1st verse amounts to 786, 1786 = 19 ×94, the total 139 letters in the 1st chapter amounts to 10143, 110143 = 19 ×5797, Now 1st prime number is 2 and 10143th prime number is 106397, 2106397 = 19 × 110863. If one adds all the quotients the sum is divisible by 19 as well: 58 +94 +5797 + 110863 = 116812 = 19 × 6148. Note that the sum of the digits of numbers 110863, 116812, and 6148 each also is 19. The last quotient 6148: 6+1+4+8=19 is the numerical value of واحد or ONE. Last but not least the sum of dgts of 58, 94, 5797, and 110863 adds up, respectively to 13, 13, 28, and 19. Concatenation of these 4 numbers is also divisible by 19: 13132819 = 19 × 691201. This last quotient's digits sums up to 19 as well. It is noteworthy to mention that until 1500's the largest prime number known was 719 which is the 128th prime. Here we have 10143th prime! Please verify these equations to be sure yourself Dr.Alley. One last gift for you is this: chapter 1 contains 7 verses, 29 words, and 139 letters. Adding thse numbers one gets 176. This number is the value of " الله لا اله الا هو" Moreover 176 = 2 ×2 ×2 ×2 ×11. The sum of prime factors adds up to 19. Number of veses in chapter 2 is 286 and in chapter11 is 123. 286286286286123 is also divisible by 19. Test 74 : 30 : ov, or original value "over it is 19" also adds up to 176: 16+12+10+5+1+22+15+16+22+16+21+20 = 176. Note that there are 12 letters. Now 743012176 = 19 × 39105904. Also 743012703010514006040070300200, which involves numerical values of the 12 letters is divisible by 19. Last but not least the numerical value of the title of chapter 74 sums up to 775 and it consists of 6 letters. From right to left: 56747756 = 19 × 2986724. It is 4 : 47 now and time to pray. Hope you have a bit more arsenal in your disposal. Thank you Dr.Alley and best regards.
Good to see Muslims finally looking at the manuscripts. I'm sure this one mostly agrees with the modern versions, but there was no mention of how many differences it any there are.
@Christian Faith Your ignorance is spiralling our of control mate🤣🤣🤣,did you even watch the video or did you research inaccurate sources to dig up dirt on Islam😅🤣🤣🤣. Either way that doesn’t hide your foolishness? There is full proof that these manuscripts kept in the Birmingham University and Tübingen University date back to the people who saw and heard the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) preaching in the time period between 649 and 675 A.D! Please have some common sense! May God bless you and your family and you be guided to the right path! Verily There is only one God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God! Thanks
"This is the published form in a nice leather binding, and it's only one quarter of the Quran" Shabir Ally said Proving that there is no such thing as a perfectly preserved Quran ... and it was not until European culture emerged from the Dark Ages and Gutenberg invented his printing press, in 1440, that bookbinding came into being. The original Quran verses were written, not as a book, but as single or a few verses here and there on whatever material was at hand.
You have not been listening. Unlike the Bible, the Quran did not depend on paper for preservation. 1000's memorised the Quran during the time of the prophet and 10's of millions have memorised it today. People can change the gospel and print 100 different versions as no one memorised the original words of Yeshua (PBUH). The Quran will remain one and never 3 or 4 as the original words of Muhammad (PBUH) were memorised. That is your perfect preservation.
@@rayali2861 .. relying on human memory is the worst possible way to preserve anything .. and we also know that there are at least 37 different Qurans in Arabic, so how can that be ?
The way of recitation I.e the way of reading Quran has changed like non Arab pronounce qaf.( ق ) normally but it ahould be pronounce from throat .Arabic letters should be pronounce differently e.g. thaa ( ث) we can't say saa simply rather we to put our tongue in b/w our teeth incisors to pronounce it. It is known as the language of dawad.The dots in Quran is added for non arabs so that they can read easily now this is newly add thing but the written part is untouched since beginning. When the word recitation is translated into Arabic language it is known as (qirat) Many people actually don't know how to pronounce Arabic letters properly
People like Jay Smith and also Jay Smith should learn something. But we Muslims believe in Quran without any evidence. But some people should learn the truth.
JESUS IS GOD. AND HE LOVES YOU; Nearly every New Testament book makes a claim, given in a variety of ways, with different words, that Jesus is God. None of them say the exact words, “Jesus is God.” I’m not suggesting that every one of these examples proves that Jesus is God, only that taken all together, there is clearly a major thrust of New Testament teaching that intends to convey to the reader that this is so. Mark 2:5-7 ----When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” Now some of the scribes were sitting there, questioning in their hearts, “Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?” To answer the scribes’ question: No one can forgive all of a person’s sins except God. The reader is left with a decision: Is Jesus blaspheming? Or is Jesus God? Surely, the writer of this Gospel, Mark, is insinuating that Jesus is, in fact, God, rather than a blasphemer! John 5:18 -----This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. Here is evidence that Jesus himself claimed to be God (or that his enemies misunderstood him). However, the apostle John does not try to correct this misunderstanding. He seems instead to affirm that this is the reason his enemies wanted to kill him (and they were right in this matter - not to kill him, but that he was claiming to be God). John 20:27-29 ------Then [Jesus] said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me?” There are other situations like this in the New Testament, where for example, a person worships Peter (see Acts 10:25-26), and Peter tells him, “Stand up; I too am a man.” Jesus makes no such correction, but instead affirms the man’s faith (and, in essence) his worship. Clearly, in the Bible, Christian worship is reserved exclusively for God. 2 Peter 1:1 -----To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with outs by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ. Colossians 1:15 -----[Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created… Notice the apostle Paul is saying here that “by [Jesus] all things were created.” This is a pretty astonishing statement to be made about any man! Nothing like this was ever said about Moses or David or Paul. The implication (as we saw in Philippians 2) is that Jesus existed before he was born of the virgin, Mary. How can we explain this? Jesus is God. Philippians 2:5-7 ------Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. The point of Philippians 2 is to encourage Christians to imitate the humility of Christ, who was “in the form of God” but “did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped.” In other words, although Jesus is God, he humbled himself by taking on human flesh (wow!), and we (as Christians) should humble ourselves too.3 Both the apostle Paul and the apostle Peter refer to Jesus as our “God” and Savior. Pretty straightforward. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John begins his Gospel by talking about “the Word” and saying essentially three things about “the Word”: He existed “in the beginning,” which is a reference to creation (Genesis 1:1). “The Word” was with God. “The Word” was God. So, of course, this raises the question: Who could possibly be all three of these things at the same time? It’s an astonishing statement. John 1:14 answers the question: “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory.” He is clearly talking about Jesus Christ, and he is referring to the transfiguration (see Luke 9:28-36). There are many, many more examples in the New Testament, but see that the Christian belief that Jesus is God is not a simple misinterpretation of two or three passages, nor is it based on one or two obscure passages. This theme is pervasive and emphasized in the four Gospels and in the New Testament letters. You cannot avoid it. Though you can nit and pick about what individual passages may mean, there is clearly a pattern of making claims about Jesus that could only be true of God (and are never said about anyone else in all of the Bible). He is the unique God-man. Romamnos 10:9 Because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved
Bible is full of miracles bcos it’s from the creator but the sad thing is that allah n his prophet did no miracle in the Quran. A god who keeps abrogating his own revelations unbelievable
So it still has dots. Uthman got rid of six dialects and only wrote the Quran in Quriashi. He then sent nine copies to the Levant. Today there is no Uthmanic Quran. Who wrote this Quran?
@@sarjilalam496 Then its useless. the rasm after Uthman and its changes are known. there are not two copies which completely agree with one another. adding one copy more doesnt make it any better.
Well, Its not a new discover , I'm not sure why Ally is pulling it up now .. The manuscript is now recognised as being written in hijazi script, although in the 1930 catalogue of the collection it is classified as "Kufic", and consists of the Quranic verses 17:36, to 36:57 (and part of verse 17:35)
@@fidelcatsro6948 educate of what ? And why now ? Is it something to whitewash the chatters going around in the internet that their are multiple variants of Qur'an ?
Can a Muslim please answer me why your all talking in the comments thinking this proves anything 😂😂 it’s only 25% of the Quaran and has many very variants to your other early manuscripts this just shows even more that Allah never perfectly preserved the Quran. What is worse is the two know it proves nothing and take you for fools by waffling knowing you will just believe what they say and never look into yourselves
Mr. epic happily what subject and on what platform ? And if your serious send me a way of contacting you to organise a debate or just pipe down one of the two 😂
just say whatever about our holy book, Allah guarding it through our memorisation,even the replaced verses we can memorize it. Before talking bad about other holy book, u should think about ur own. No.one can even memorise 1/4 of urs completed holy book and yet u guys still believe that the bible is absolut truth ,then say bad about other scripture. Even between catholic and christian have great different numbers of the bible. Have a shame！ And go to farid responds for more explanation about Quran ,dialect etc..jesus said O hear o israel ,our God Our lord is one. Ur mother said, o my familly, our president is trump. Think. Seek the truth then the truth will set u free。。。
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
CP only debates from his hiding places with his finger on the mute button for anyone that threatens him intellectually. A true coward. Let him appear on the EF dawah streams. He will be humiliated. But he prefers cowardice and taqiya.
Bla bla bla. Qur'an surah A'ala Allah States "We shall make you recite it so that you shall not forget except that Allah wills it." So the Qur'an is memorized orally so if it was eaten by goat and forgotten then it was Allah's will.
Asamani Yusif إِنَّ عَلَيۡنَا جَمۡعَهُۥ وَقُرۡءَانَهُۥ ١٧ • Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali: It is for Us to collect it and to give you (O Muhammad SAW) the ability to recite it (the Quran), (17) • Abdul Haleem: We shall make sure of its safe collection and recitation. (17) فَإِذَا قَرَأۡنَٰهُ فَٱتَّبِعۡ قُرۡءَانَهُۥ ١٨ • Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali: And when We have recited it to you [O Muhammad SAW through Jibrael (Gabriel)], then follow you its (the Quran's) recital. (18) • Abdul Haleem: When We have recited it, repeat the recitation (18) ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَیۡنَا بَیَانَهُۥ ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَيۡنَا بَيَانَهُۥ ١٩ • Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali: Then it is for Us (Allah) to make it clear to you, (19) • Abdul Haleem: and We shall make it clear. (19) ٧٥:١٩ القيامة, آية ١٩ - Quran - by Quran.com - قرآن itunes.apple.com/app/id1118663303
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine.
please allow me to share this with you: _"And mention in the Book about Mary when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place.” “So she took a veil (to screen herself) apart from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit (Holy Spirit) that presented himself to her a perfect man.”_ _“She said: ‘Verily I take refuge in the Beneficent (Allah) from you! if you are God-fearing.” “He (the angel) said: ‘Verily I am only a messenger of your Lord that I bestow on you a pure son’.” “She said: ‘How shall there be for me a son while no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste.”_ _"He said: ‘So (it will be)’. Your Lord says: ‘It is easy for Me, and that We will make him a Sign (miracle) unto the people and a Mercy from Us, and it is a matter decreed. “So she conceived him (Jesus) and withdrew with him to a distance place.” “And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree. She said: ‘Would I had died ere this, and had been a thing forgotten’.”_ _"Then (a voice) called out unto her from beneath her: ‘Grieve not! Verily your Lord has made a stream to flow beneath you’.” “And shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards yourself. It will drop on you fresh ripe dates.” “So eat and drink and refresh your eye; and if you meet any mortal, say: ‘Verily I have vowed a fast to the Beneficent (God), so never shall I speak today with any human being’.”_ _"Then she brought the child to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: ‘Verily you have done a very indecent thing’.” “O sister of Aaron! Your father was not a bad man, nor was your mother an unchaste woman.”_ _"Then Mary pointed to him. They said: ‘How shall we speak to one who is (yet) a child in the cradle?"_ _“He (miraculously) said: ‘Verily I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet’.”_ _"And He has made me blessed wherever I may be and He has enjoined on me prayer and almsgiving so long as I live.”_ _“And (He has made me) kind to my mother, and He has not made me arrogant unblessed.”_ _"And peace be on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive.”_ _“Such is Jesus, son of Mary, a statement of truth, concerning which they doubt.”_ _“It is not befitting to Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He decrees a thing, He only says unto it: ‘Be’, and it is.”_ Holy Quran - Surah Maryam (Chapter Mary) surah 19 : ayat 16 to 34.
So you have 1 quarter of the quran tested in a muslim founded lab and university. And the oldest sana manuscript Is older then mohammad. And has only 32 verses. And are al jew christian secterian writings. I always say the PERFECT QURAN THAT IS IN HEAVEN HAS HOLES ON EARTH. LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY VARIATIONS IT HAS WITH THE OTHER 4 HAFS QURAN AND THE 1924 AND 1984. HAFS EDITION. AND THE OTHER 30 QURANS THAT ARE AROUND.
Jesus died and rose from the dead as was witnessed by a multitude of people, jews and roman. After he had arisen from the dead, again, he was seen by and spoke to his disciples as well as a multitude of people as is attested to in all the four gospels. But you’d rather believe a man who couldn’t tell the difference between the Angel Gabriel and shaitaan and had the koran revealed to him with absolutely no witnesses to confirm the veracity of his claim. Well, good luck and God Bless!!
@Emmanuel Toghanrowhat doubt that Trinitarian paganism aka Christianity is not the religion that Isa aka Jesus preached I have no doubts 🤣Chicken Prince and Dave Woody know Islam like your demi human savior knew the hour not at all😂 if these two are islamic excepts I'm should be next in line for pope
we have old manuscripts of quran. from Prophet Pbuh time. 94%. Do u know what that even means? Physical proof that quran is preserved. do u have one percent of Bible manuscripts? and what u have contradict with todays bible. lmao.But pegans like u who make a messenger god will not understand this.
Shamim Khanom the Bible was there before ur false prophet. He came n confirmed it so read ur Quran well. My bible is full of miracles whereas ur Quran has none. What kind of god do u have who cannot perform a single miracle? Amazing
Assalamualikum brother all books were destroyed by bad people but islam comes from Hart because our prophet Mohammed Salalawu wala arlehi thought us to read and memorize the hole Kuran now that is amazing than any other religion you can come across truth you can see
Yeah ok of course he would say that but the original manuscripts had lines that where erased and copied over and the original Quran was ordered to be burnt and rewritten
th-cam.com/video/riiqZ3IxrUM/w-d-xo.html so does torah..b4 thin..after moses passed away..it became thick..copies..added..bible far than that..many version.
CP only debates from his hiding places with his finger on the mute button for anyone that threatens him intellectually. A true coward. Let him appear on the EF dawah streams. He will be humiliated. But he prefers cowardice and taqiya
Salam. Do muslims keep Friday instead of sat? If so what hours. Jews keep Friday sunset to sat sunset. Plus gen 2 ..God rested on 7th day before law of Moses.
Great question! We don't have a Sabbath, but we do observe special prayers on Friday. Here's a video that explains what the Quran says about the Sabbath: th-cam.com/video/RyYocY6P-OU/w-d-xo.html
@Hamza I am mentioning that 75% of the Tubingen Quran is lost, however this hadith ( Sahih Muslim 2286 ) www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=5&translator=2&start=0&number=2277 states that many surahs are missing and we all know of the goat who ate the stoning verse. so the Quran is not complete.
The world is a hellish place, nothing more to say. Coronavirus is on the loose, God is no where, only the same preachers talking over and over again but the God's delusion.
you are a good Muslim if you repeat the same lies over and over again. Muslims in the time of the Prophet were fighting over correct ayaat and Uthman was asked to write one official Mushaf so Muslims would stop fighting like the Christians and Jews. Even shortly aftrer the death of the Prophet Muslims were fighting why if evcerybody had memorized the Quran ? This makes no sense. If Muslims today say they memo Quran which riwayat and why did Egypt make riwayah of Hafs official Quran if all are the same Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. Hafs Quran in 2:10 it says that Muslims get condemned to hell for lying and in the Warsh Quran the same passage says they get condemned to hell for being LIED TO He "said" (qaala), "My lord knows ..." (21:4) Hafs verses Warsh "Say" (qul): My lord knows ... Hafs version qaala is the perfect tense and therefore Muhammad is the subject of the verb, but in the Warsh version qul is the imperative and therefore the subject is God who is commanding Muhammad/Muslims. This difference is repeated in 21:112. Example of new ruling of Fiqh due to change in grammatical position of a word: Top one is Qiraat Hafs and the bottom is Qiraat Duri. In Hafs Recitation, Arjulakum (being mansub) is linked to washing, while in Duri recitation, Arjulikum (being Majrur) is linked to wiping. Thus, we get two fiqh rulings from the two recitations i.e.: 1. Feet are to be washed in wudu. 2. Feet are to be wiped.
how can they say it is the same words ? The dots give meaning to the doodle .Without the dots the words can be read in many different ways ? One of the reasons Uthman did write his Quran the way he wanted it to be read
@Hamza the reason why they did ask Uthman to write a "correct" Qur'an was bc they had arguments about the right reading. ppl had different Qur'ans .Uthman ordered to burn everything else. Why would you do that if all were the same ??
@@HHasan-of2vi they can today but when Utham wrote the Qur'an with no dots you had to come up with your own interpretation.Even today most Arabs speak local dialects and nobody speaks classic arabic which is the way the early Qur'an was edited...in the dialect of the Prophet which in time became modern Arabic of today Cairo edition 1924
@Hamza Prophet Muhammad did not "approve" any Qur'an bc Qur'an was not finished until the last day of The Prophet ppl that could write and read had different copies and different dialects. During the times of Uthman they did try to get rid of the cunfusion. We can not say we have the correct words of the Prophet today and there are may different Qurnas today with up to 20-30 different Ayaat. (Yasir Qadhi) Muslims should never have said Qur'an was preserved and not even one word was changed. if even one word of the Quran was changed Islam is finished bc Allah was not able to preserve the Quran
When the sense of natural logical start coming to the mind, high ego is crying to avoid the truth. Trying hard creating new small weak analogy by ignoring the solid evidence for sake of the unknowns in the uneasiness mind.
alla of quran is more concern about sexual pleasure of man. He affirms that sexual pleasure is most essential in man's life even in heaven. What is the meaning of heaven. Why posterous(low degree of happiness) again in heaven. ie.; Allah Says (what means): {Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a [new] creation; And made them virgins, Devoted [to their husbands] and of equal age,} [Quran 56:35-37.
Those Muslims who still say quran is perfectly preserved from 1400 years. Name me one quran manuscript from 7th, 8thcentury which has 114 surahs as of exactly todays quran..!?
POINT 3 7th century all manuscripts are same as TODAY Quran some manuscripts has 20 SURAH some has 50 surah but are same as TODAY Quran POINT to be NOTED
@@ISLAMICDEFENSE9302 dude the revelation which Muhammad Got from the gabriel is no more?.. You know why if your answer is oral recitation.. Then why did zaid Ibn tabid found out people reciting different quran at battle of yamama? 😂Why did uthman burn other qurans? Because they differed!! .. It shows that there was error regarding quran preservation from 7th century itself.. And further why did the Al - hazzar university at Cairo threw all other quran manuscripts text??.. If it was all equal?? Those recitation and wordings differ.. Then why hafs was introduced?? 😂😂😂
@@ISLAMICDEFENSE9302 who wrote the quran?.. Answer me.. The basic root of recitation comes from the one who wrote quran.. And why did his followers forget the surahs and reciters were died in the battle and some other ayahs were eaten by the tame sheep of aisha?.. Where is full quran now? !
idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#tab=struct&p=1 Scanned copy of the Tuebingen manuscript hosted by the University for anyone who wants to check it out.
Where is the full quranic 114 verses manuscript and sheep eating verses ? And many lost in battle of Emama.???from 632 ?Woth whose permission Uthman standardized Quran? I thought it was revealed to Muhammad, isn’t he supposed to do it?
This is not to celebrate but to think that not all version of quran was destroyed by Uthman, and Sana manuscriptst and the other manuscriptst cast a shadow of the present quran. Now if the Text of quran is identical, with the meaning of the Prophets preaching then there can be authenticity. But sadly its not. 🙏🙏
Eg mushaf al imam..its from prophet muhamad> abu bkr copied its name suhuf abu bakar..uthman take it from that they are among first memorizer of al quran not a problem at all if not refer mushaf(skin)they memorize.. companion more than thousand people most of them memorize al quran and hadith....christian prince,arabs prince,david wood etc they didnt like share that with you..bcs uthman..make that effort gather companion who have precise memorization and recitation..lead by zaid ibn thabit(he been check memorization by p.muhamad and angel gabriel-last b4 prophet passed away)if he(uthman) try to change one word in al quran..sword will be on his head..against by other companion..who also memorize..al quran doesnt have version..you like it or not..it doesnt HAVE..only translation..depend on your tounge..languange..when you read and recite must in arabic..about vowel etc..these languange system..its not new..go met children of isreal..how they can recite..their revelation😎.which is from SOUND TO TEXT..like al quran.th-cam.com/video/nrlTo8WS9p8/w-d-xo.html you christian doesnt have it..bcs jesus speak aramic..and hebrew..you guys not even bother to learn it..semetic languange.
@@Raul-vs6ff abu bakr copied nothing, Zaid collected the remnants of the Quran from bones and stones. not from perfect memorisation. Hafsa kept it under her bed fpr 20 odd years hh the uthman rewrote the whole stuff in qureishi dialect (without tashkil !?) and greek was lingua franca at jesus time thats why. the Bible was not for desert nomades but for all mankind.
Salvation cannot come from Arab (because the don't have the COVENANT of God). Is only the Jews who had the COVENANT of God. Muslim are the followers of Ismael (Arabs) Christian are the followers of JEWS (Esrael who had the COVENANT of God). Quaran 2:40, Genesis 17:21.
Sanaa is only few surahs small fragment of Quran. Birmingham is also surahs 19-21 only partially with preislamic stories of seven sleepers and Moses. In science manuscript is complete or nearly complete book. It would be embarrassing for them if you get these copies⚠️⚠️⚠️ Sanaa even has two texts in it. The turkish muslim scientists found it with ultra violet light. It is different than the text above, which proves according them the development of Quran. In plain english Quran has changed and there is not to be found the Quran from the tablet of jennah⚠️⚠️⚠️ As Suyuyat page 88:"Umar said Quran used to have 1 027 000 letters. "Then over 7️⃣0️⃣% of Quran has been lost. As Suyuyat 1:2 the surah of cow has lost 1️⃣2️⃣4️⃣ayas alone. The ayas of breastfeeding adult men 10 times and stoning adulterers lost but valid in ruling. sunnah.com/urn/1262630 Some surahs lost in battle of Al-Yamama when 70 only reciters of the died. sunnah.com/search?q=Al+Yamama+Umar
I memorized a poem in school, after a month I dont remember it anymore.
I memorized the whole Quran, after 20 years I can still recite it..
Marshall Lee Mashallah brother
Really!? ,, no taqiyyah?
@@mikemono2876 "The Quran is perhaps the only book, religious or secular, that has been memorized completely by millions of people."
(William Graham (1993), Beyond the Written Word, UK: Cambridge University Press, p.80.)
Really ?! No western taqiyyah ?
@@al_hilali213 which riwaya there are 40 different
This brother has a point here.. And we might be underestimating this simple statement that he made.
On a personal view, Im born Muslim in a strict practicing Muslim family. As per the norm, my parents sent me to Islamic classes to learn about Islam and the Quran when I was a kid. My religious teachers would make me memorize parts of the Quran.
I live in a modern, developed country, and, as I grew up, I had easy access to many things which were considered forbidden in religion of Islam. I became ignorant about my religion and divulged myself in the worldly matters.
Cut short 30 years later, all praises to God, God have helped me turn back to the truth. To my surprise, the verses which I memorized as a kid was still deeply embedded in my mind and i didn't have to spend any effort on memorizing them again.
However, it doesn't work the same way for the nursery rhymes which I chanted many times as a kid. It was completely missing from my memory. In fact, I was quite dumbfounded at the senseless words which I was uttering in my pre schools.
From this personal experience, It really goes to show me that the verses of the Quran are in fact easily embedded to people's mind and transferring this knowledge orally wouldn't be impossible. Ie, that's why till today, we are still reciting the same verses as our forefathers have recited.
Quran is memorised by millions, it is the most read book in history, so it is obvious that it is preserved, while the rest are altered over time.
Not because of that but Writer of the book himself confirmed
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
1) there weren't millions of muslims in the begining of islam
2) people tend to forget
3) early mosque faced the wrong way and towards Petra and you think people are reliable?
Harry Potter
Obedience is a sacred trait of the Muslim faith. The word Islam means “to surrender.”...what free will ?
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said:
By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them. : Sahih Muslim 2749------ Allah wants you to be a sinner so he can send you to his hell.
David wood where you going...David come back...David why you getting in your car....david...David come back......folks David wood has left the building
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
But here is scolars of islam th-cam.com/video/ANo6dXc2i-0/w-d-xo.html
@Adnan Nizam It is not permissable for you to say bro. Secondly you missed the evolvement of scolars opinions of Quran preservation. Admitting gradually what christians have said about the Quran👍😌🙏There is no Quran from the tablet of jennah. Two turkish muslim scientists said all oldest Qurans are not even uthmanic nor from Ibn Maliks time.
Hahahahahhahah
@@pr7049 lol, you are talking out of jealousy brother, bcuz you are having the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy the.....as your original bible 😅
Allah said that he will preserve it, therefore trust in Allah, that his words are perfect and are always fulfilled.
Mohammed said that Allah said it. Mohammed said Allah said a lot of stuff
He said he will preserve the dhikr, the reminder. Isnt this a term used for all the revelations?
And he said no one can change his words. Doesnt this include all the revelations too?
@@swissapologetics No. The Bible is changed. And that's not only an Islamic claim. Atheists have verified this as well. It's common knowledge.
@@hanzo7616
The Quran has been changed too. And the Quran affirms the inspiration, preservation snd continuing authority of the Tora and the Gospel.
@@swissapologetics
Jesus is a prophet PBUH. God is One(Ahad). Jesus will return but not as God, as his servant.
Not surprising at all. Muslims have always known that the Quran has been and is accurate and true to what was revealed to the Prophet.
Look here for a page with erasures and corrections in the tuebingen manuscript: idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#p=9
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
@@amuthi1 thanks for sharing.
@@SheikhAlladeenlies
@@MohOz Allah allows sxx with prepubescent girls this is pedophilia check it yours. from islamic website chapter 65 verse 4 -
The Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate.The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their Iddah is three months like those in menopause.....The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation
The issue arose when western scholars falsely claime that the quranic text was standardised 200 years after mohammed and this was quoted as gospel, but recent evidence shows otherwise.
What evidence?
That 200 years later..they accused hadith..what funny both al quran and hadith..have been preserved earlier than that..b4 it came down to earth.
some islam scholars claim the hadith to be corrupted..some dont even believe in the hadith as its corrupted.
@@sweeyong7756 true they both are man made and full of hearsay!👍💯
it was this man doesn't know history very well and unfortunately m not good at english enough to explain the long story .
I only heard of this man from christian people who want to mock islam.
Subhanallah as a german native speaker I really like how you pronounce the word "Tübingen" barakallahu feek
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
@@SheikhAlladeen the text Maybe different but the context is same
@@MuhammadFaiz-zr1np shokran you are a very honest person. There are many different Qurans with different words. Which is a problem since every Quran should reflect the exact revelation of Allah since Allahs words can not be changed. And which words would be on the tablets with Allah ?
If every arabic Quran which is written in classical Arabic has the exact same words why are there so many different arabic Quran versions. This does not make sense.
Like having 40 different Harry Potter with exact same words by different people
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
@@SheikhAlladeen Andy Miller.
You will have to try hatder than that.
Stop getting Knowledge from Islamophobes.
@@maximus320 Quran recitation by Hafs has different words and different meaning comp to Warsh Quran recitation this means Quran was corrupted bc there is no 1 original Quran to which we could compare. Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. every Quran is the same word for word ? My behind
The Quran speaks for itself. No doubt about it if you are being sincere with your own self.
which one ?
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
Hello I am a Muslim and m not even a scholar but I want to make few points I studied by my self and to correct few Historical mistakes you have made :
point number 1- Quoran was written on the same time as the prophet.
people thinks that the first time Quran was was written during the khelafah of Abu Bakar it is true That first Quran was (" gathered " ) not just written.
2- Quoran was written rocks and leither during the prophet time at that time the prophet asked those who can write to write nothing but quoran.
besides the fact that they studied only Quran and the prophet always said when the holly spirit talked to him his face becomes red he keeps mumbling the words so he don't mix them
3- In Abu Baka (radiya Allahu anh) when muslimes that was memorizing the Quran who studied the Quran lit of em got killed so Abu Baker was afraid that Quran might vanish so he asked Zayed Ibnu Thabit to travel around and Gather the quoran and Zayed smthought that is insane and not possible and he himself he said that if abu Baker was asking him something harder thani carring the mountains on his back " but zayed remembered the Aya from the quoran :" انا نزلنا ال ذكرى و ان اليه لحافضون" god says " we made the Thikra and we shall keep it" m not good at translating to english but that means in arabic that Quran is saved from changing ( thikra was mentioned several times in the holly Quran referring to the the quoran himself)
4- Ibnu thabit gathered the Quran and he didn't put one word unless different two of the Sahaba (the close followers of prophet during his life) remembered that word.
5- The Quoran durring the profet age was told each word in each place the number of Surrah(chapter) and the number of Aya ( verse) so there fore Quoran was complete and to prove that
the last verse in the last chapter was placed correctly when Quran was finished and the chapters were in the same order they were told but the numbers of chapters remained the same for example first vers in chapter was ever told islam was Iqraa ( although prophet at that time told them that this is verse number 1 in chapter 69) and that is one of the reasons Quran is miracle the prophet was illettiret how and where that wisdom and knowledge of complex arabic language came from?
7- afterward The khalifah Omar desided to make quoran in the same order that mohamed said becauss decided to make the chapters in the same order as the prophet asked them to be .
6- Quran had different writings after the abu baker era because islamic state extended and new writings appeared after that so thanks to god and ya subhana lah just like in Quran was said that this words shall never be changed in time of The khilafh durring Othman Ibnu Affan he noticed that Quran is written in different accents I would say because in each arabic country they had there own pronunciation and meanings and that is why arabic is the most rich language in my own rospective one word have several meanings , however before the new writings spread too much the khlaifah asked them to keep the original writing as the Quoraich clan tong the same clan of the prophet peace upon him , the same way his pronunciation was
I find 2 idiots on one thread?
The Islam haters in the comment section is really sad. People with No hope. Truly Lost souls.
they have nothing to add to the argument and are jealous of the grandeur of this religion..... they are trying their best
Let us say Alhamdulillah for surely Allah says in the Quran al Karim that it is He Allah (God) who will use different methods of preserving the Quran. No matter what they say it is in our hearts and we have faith that it is 100% from Allah.
Atheists will argue regardless of any proof given. The mathematical code is always proof of its preseveration and divine authorship. Read 19.org/blog/on-it-is-nineteen/
19miracle.org
@Hussain Mahmood Walaikumsalaam. Yea have you looked at it? It is proof the Quran is from God even though some people say it doesn't add up. 19 code exists in the Quran. There might be places it doesn't add up but several places it does. God knows best.
@Wicki de Viking hahaha. Please don't try to drag the Quran in the same mess as your bible.
Very nice work Dr Shabbir 👏 👍 👌 May Allah grant him abundant sawaab
ameen
I can't speak Arabic at all with an Arab person. But I know close to 28 Surahs by heart and I can understand about 50% of the entire Quran without a translation. The Quran is truly a Sign.
I been watching Dr. Shabir videos from 20 years ago very very intelligent I been learning a lot from his old debates and symposiums
@Random Person he taught me to ignore ignorance bulldoze the falsehood with Truth Truth that the the creator of mankind and the universe has a message for us and left us with a instruction manual a guide
Alhamdu lmLilah we are 2 billions Muslims.
and it remind me of our Prophet pbuh saying :
ليبْلغنَّ هذا الأمرُ ما بلغ الليلُ والنهارُ، ولا يترك اللهُ بيت مَدَر ولا وَبَر إلا أدخله الله هذا الدين، بعِزِّ عزيز أو بذُلِّ ذليل، عزا يُعِزُّ الله به الإسلام، وذُلا يُذل الله به الكفر»
translation : Indeed, this religion will reach everywhere the night and day can reach. Allah will not leave a dwelling in a city or a desert except that He will make this religion enter it, thus, honoring the honorable or humiliating the humiliated; an honor which Allah will bestow on Islam, and a humiliation which Allah will inflict on disbelief.
صدق رسول الله عليه الصلاة و السلام
Lol this video bringing out all the insecure Christians 😂 May Allah guide them to the Truth.
@sinchiro ichihada keep crying weirdo
Insecure Christians? Wait a minute, aren’t you the ones fleeing middle eastern countries to come to developed western countries? What language are you speaking and what language is being used in this video? Certainly not any high profile Islamic tongue. It’s English propagated by Christian Protestants. Not insecure about anything. It’s just simple to see who is moving to where and why. It is Muslims moving to western developed nations. Not the other way around.
@@eduardocastaneda9476 Islamic toungue 🤣🤣🤣
@@eduardocastaneda9476 lol Eduardo name like that and you're talking about the supremacy of English lmao
Your argument is weak and has nothing to do with religion. If you read history, which you haven't based on your ridiculous comment, you'd know all civilisations have periods of being on top. Currently the Western civilisation is on top after centuries of horrific exploitation and oppression of many many nations. Guess who helped support their historic crimes? Your friends in the Church. And then connecting that to current wars in the middle east? Which started after American and European incursions in to the middle east.
Funny how your comment has nothing related to actual tenets of religion but a weird supremacist argument with little basis again highlighting your own insecurity. Know that even when Muslims are going through their worst periods their faith is still intact. Not sure if the same can be said for you.
@@eduardocastaneda9476 American's and it's allies destroyed Iraq, Libya on a lie that Iraq had WMD but found nothing but left it in ruins they are also behind the uprising Tunisia,Syria .
So, where are these displaced people supposed to go when western countries destroy them . I think he's speaking Christian language or is it English I'm not sure ???
Real Quran is what is in the hearts of the Muslims, Huffaz. All manuscripts are copies. They are not original. There was never a complete manuscript of the Quran in the time of the Prophet. There were only people who have memorised the Quran. In fact written Quran came into existence when there was a fear that the original Quran which was in the memories of the Huffaz was in danger as many of them were dying in the battlefield. So if you want to verify the accuracy of the manuscript you have to call the Huffaz to verify the manuscripts and not vice versa . The manuscripts are not a means of verifying the original Quran, which in its original form, was in the heart of the Prophet. It was transmitted from his heart to the hearts of the companions. In fact this is what was done to produce the first written Quran, I.E from heart to manuscripts.
What is a miracle is that the Quran is not assembled in chronological order i.e in the order of its revelation, yet it was memorised and assembled in its present order as directed by Allah Ta'ala through His Prophet.
I challenge anyone to learn the Bible by heart in a disorderly manner and then recite it from memory in its proper order.
The Quran is a reading book in rhythmic tones and the lyrics are precise. If a reader omits or changes a word the listener will automatically notice it. Just like in any famous song the listener will automatically notice any distortions in the lyrics or word omissions. Similarly the listeners of the Quran will notice any variations in the recitation. While the prophet was alive he was reciting it in the daily prayers. Recitation of the Quran from memory is part of the daily prayers. Once the prophet made a mistake in recitation in one prayer and he was immediately corrected by one companion named Ubay ibn Kaab. After the prayer the Prophet asked who corrected him. He was told " Ubay bin Kaab" and he said: I guessed it was he. "
Allah orders the Muslims in the Quran thus: "and recite the Qur'an in slow measured rhythmic tones."
THE LEADERS OF THE QURAYSH LISTENED TO THE RECITATION OF THE QUR’AN IN SECRET.
While the Prophet was praying at home one night, the leading figures of the polytheists such as Abu Sufyan, Abu Jahl and Ahnas, stood hidden in the darkness and listened to the recitation of the Qur’an. Unaware of one another’s presence, they were so absorbed in the Prophet’s recitation that they remained there until dawn. As they were about to leave at dawn break, the three men noticed one another. Each began to condemn the other for listening to the Qur’an, and agreed not to do such a thing again saying that this would certainly raise suspicion and doubt if they were seen by others.
But this happened again the next day, and on the third consecutive day the three men said “We cannot continue doing this!” so each of them vowed not to go there again.
Clearly, the hearts were unable to escape from the delightful, fascinating effects of the Qur’an. However, aspects such as tribal ties, personal vengeance, the battle for leadership and jealousy was preventing them from embracing Islam. In fact the enemies of the Prophet were convinced that the recitation of the Quran has a mesmerising effect on its listeners. They warned everybody not to listen to its recitation lest they succumbed to its 'magical' effects.
th-cam.com/video/m8FL2_JtM0I/w-d-xo.html
And when they listen to the revelation received by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray: "Our Lord! we believe; write us down among the witnesses. (Quran 5:83)
Yes, I have cried before and still do occasionally when reading the Quran.
The first time I read it was when I was still a christian and I remember I was crying at one point thinking that these are the literal words of God, and then when I read the verse that said the christians will recognize this as the truth and tears will roll down their faces, which is exactly what I was doing, it made me feel so ashamed and embarrassed that I didn't know God before this, I then fell down on my face for the first time ever and tried to pray as the Quran tells us to. I'm sure I didn't pray exactly as the traditionalists would like but I did it as best I could, I cried to God to forgive me for forgetting him, for not knowing him, or worshipping him, and for associating others with him as I used to do. I swore that I was a Muslim and that I will die as a Muslim then and there, God willing I will.
Kurt
"Conformity to what Muslims read today..." to what degree? Notice he doesn't say it is exact, word for word. If it was, he would say so very, very excitedly. I am excited for what Dr. Jay Smith and Dr. David Wood have to say about this manuscript.
A cross dresser and conman are the best Trinitarian Pagans can bring you guy have 0 standards
Your boy got humiliated by Mohammed hijab
This guy's way of speech is to be taught.
This is interesting for a historian but God said he'll preserve it and Muslims knew that and never doubted it.
you have to bel a stone kissing Prophet bc God never said anything
@@SheikhAlladeen what are you talking about? , you must be dumb or just trying to be funny
I'm wondering how different an English translation of this older document might be. For myself I use the Yusuf Ali translation, arguably one of the more faithful renderings. Might anything be gained by translating this older Quran into English? Thoughts?
It will be the same
if the orginal arabic is same which means the meaning is same , The english of quran might translations differs only a little bit because it is very diffecult to use the exact words used in arabic language and exactly translate it into english , The words in English might differ but the meaning is exact the same in all english translations of Quran, However The Orginal Arabic Has always been the same , Anď many muslims (Mostly non arabs) also memorise tge entire quran in its arabic script with meanings .
We dont the take the Translations to be the Quran , we just use them to understand it , The original arabic is always written in any Quran anywhere .
Quran is 100% preserved . It the The 100% Fully True , THe Word of God .
Translation different based on your mother tounge languange usually using general context..so thats why when recite must in arabic(revelation languange) so the meaning or context not changes..eg in eg translation..iqra and uzlu..translate as READ..but the word in arabic different??why??the meaning and function clearly different..arabic crazily detail..nor you or satan can change it..al quran preserve in both way text and recitation..not by human by allah swt as GOD..if you try change it to english the recitation..it will be funny🤣you can try if you want..previous people already try that..many..try memorize then change it into text??the sound😎the oldest al quran..mushaf al imam..exist during prophet alive..abu bakar and uthman used these copies..😁actually..its the same meaning..just added a symbol and system(these not new-jew also have these system)so people who not arabs can recite it precisely..common 7 way recite..but actually almost 13..if you have time..every year my country international tilawah al quran..contestant from all over the world..eg arabs some of them cannot pronounce "r" or chinese ,english etc in arabic...we cannot force them..bcs they born that way..their tounge🤣even though we not arabs they weird and amaze why people from my race..can recite precisely..even arabs came learn from us..well thats a miracle..ha..ha..most cannot speak arabic but most can read and recite🤣precisely.
No difference really since it's the exact same text we have now. The only difference here is the writing style. The language writing style evolved into what we use nowadays as Arab speakers, which is why it is not easy for us to read this old one without the training he talked about. For example, a kid might not be able to read the Uthmani writing style, but it only takes a little practice to get familiar with it because it's relatively new (I pretty much practiced it alone as a kid as the difference was very minor). This style here shown in the picture is much older and hence requires a bit more practice.
A translation is always gonna be a translation
But these old manuscripts are exactly the same as the arabic quran we have today, the arabs didn't use dots in the past and we certenly can still read it without dots.
*لا إله إلا ﷲ*
*لا إله إلا ﷲ*
*لا إله إلا ﷲ*
*لا إله إلا ﷲ*
*لا إله إلا ﷲ*
*لا إله إلا ﷲ*
1, Qaloon Qur'an..........which is authentic ?
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
We will never reach this level of authenticity for the ahadith (i.e Bukhari, Sahih Muslim etc)as we dont have hadith parchments dating back to the same time as the earliest Quran parchments. So we should never compare any ahadith collections to the written nature and recital of the Quran as hadith are nowhere near the same standard.
Well. we don't have a whole Mushaf dating from the 7th century, only from the 8th century and we have Authentic Hadith collection which is also form the 8th century. We also know that the Hadith was orally transmitted by the Sahaba to their students who then transmitted it to their students and from there we have written Books of Hadith from the 8th century on- wards. So a true evidence of the Qurans preservation is truly in the oral tradition. Same goes for a Hadith, a paper says nothing if we can't trace anything back to the Prophet.
So, a authentic narration which is transmitted directly from a student of a Sahabi is authentic and when Allah says to follow the Sahaba in good, we need to follow what they tell us about the deeds and acts and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
What is commanded in the Quran is literally as important as the Quran, hence a order and a command or a commentary from the Rasul which comes to us is literally obeying Allah and His Messenger.
So yes, we actualy have very authentic Hadiths and using your logic : The verses from the Quran that we can't find from a 7th century manuscript are not that authentic... or equally authentic to a Hadith narrations. This makes no sense.
So, the Quran is orally transmitted and we have 10 schools to prove it which is more than enough.
We have Quran manuscripts and full Mushafs and even if we have no full Quran (Quran of Abu Bakr for example), our Quran can be traced back to Uthman ibn Affaan May Allaah have mercy on him and on Abu Bakr as Siddiq. This is suffiecient for us.
As for Hadiths, Bukhari and Muslim were not even born when Imam Malik's Muwatta was written. Maliks teacher was a student of Abdullah ibn Umar ibn Al Khattaab who was a Sahabi. So you have 1 person inbetween the Sahabi and Malik and Ibn Umar is known for the preservation of the Sunnah of the Prophet.
So your criteria makes no sense. The written pages of the Quran are not enough since the Quran is recited and memorized and taught by the Muslims. What he have is the complete Quran and it oral tradition and its qira'at going back to the Prophet, this is the true preservation evidence which refutes any islam hater.
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
May Allah protect u doctor Shabir Ally
Hana Kamil:--Allah protects nobody. Get yourself some education.
th-cam.com/video/ANo6dXc2i-0/w-d-xo.html
Abdullah b. Umar reportedly said:
'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is?
MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived."
References:
Al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Volume 2, Page 25, Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti
- Dur Al-Manthur, Volume 1, Page 106
My question is if Quran is so important why was it not made into a book while Prophet was still alive ? And why is there different versions of it now ? I don’t have a very strong base to begin with and now I’m genuinely confused :(
people were mostly illiterate but better at memorizing..
@@fidelcatsro6948 Thanks for replying, but I believe it does not answer my question. Maybe you could elaborate more on that?
@@almiraalmira1451 yesit was written on leaves and animal skins but later after his death .Lot of hufaaz died .So then efforts were made to reproduce the quran in mushaf and companiom did it as the prophet told them
@@hashamkhan9517 Thanks for replying. While we have some philosophy books from the Greeks or the Romans that dates far back then the Prophet, just not sure why was it so difficult for the Quran to made into a book while it was still fresh.
@@almiraalmira1451
It was a book in recitation as the way we now have but not complete in parchment.This book was recited day and night snd five time prayers during the life time of prophet.yes companions wrote on leaves and animal skins but it was personsl copies during the time of prophet .There were many people during life of prophet who had memorized the entire quran.
As far as memorization is concerned many people memorized it during the life of prophet pbuh but few people wrote it because majority people didnot know to write .it was arabian society which usually depends of oral transmission
A arab at that times memorized the 1000 of poetry material .So knowledge was passed down orally this was custom in Arabs .
While greeks and romans many people were litterate and know how to read and write .Usually writing was a custom to pass down the knowledge which is opposite that of Arabs.Scribes used to write the material to pass down to next generations.So you are comparing different socities with different customs.
When many recitors died during the battle of yammama then abubakar Ra collected the entire quran in single mushaf zaid bin thabit was incharge who memorized the entire quran with prophet.
So we had the complete written copy after one year of prophet pbuh.
Quran was also passed after this by writing but its main mode was oral trsnsmissoon where thousands of people memorized and passed to next generation from the time of prophet pbuh.
I hope question is answered
I dont understand why some Christians are agitated. Atleast Muslims do have all these evidences.
What about bible?
Where is atleast the fragments of the abrahamic Bible?!
This is not a new discovery. Carbon dating was done in 2014.
@@islamicscholar6073 what mistake? lol
not everyone smart cat like you...
yes, but it was further confirmed with better accuracy and is now published
@@islamicscholar6073 its probably a clearer video about preservation that he hopes people don't twist and take out of context
This manuscript has only 19 chapters from 17:35-36:75. Where are the others? Eaten by a goat right? Go get the book n see for urself. Why do Muslims hate reading n only follow blindly?
The lines are for non-native speakers to clarify the vowel sound. For an English example equivalent, it is like the word 'C-A-T' spelled 'C-T'. Is it Cot, or Cat? Critics are saying the Quran is changed because of that, but it is just a clarification for people who are not native to reading Arabic. All the words are the same.
Now this answers to Jay Smith for circulating false information creating doubts in Christians. Shabir ally is best apologist in the world.
@Bible Bus 2.0
Zero doubt about islam because all doubts have been cleared but we have not only doubts but certainty about bible being false because of its contradiction, scientific errors, illogical doctrines etc.
@Bible Bus 2.0 if you belive the 1924 nonsense you don't have the First clue about the quran
The Quran fragment from the University of Tübingen in Germany has been dated to a period between 649 AD - 675 AD. This date means the manuscript was written about 20 - 40 years after the Prophet Muhammad’s death. Pieces of the manuscript were analyzed in a lab in Zürich using modern C14-radiocarbon and dated within a 95.4% statistical probability.
The 95.4% is the carbon dating probability not the similarity to the 1924 Quran
@@munafghori4052 yeah all doubts have been answered...by Yasir Qadhi 🤣.
cool story dude
@@levantino4704
Not by Yasir qadhi. Hundreds of scholars in thousand years time already answer this questions and objections over Quran preservation. Yasir qadhi is not the only Quranic scholar. Muslims should follow where the evidence leads. So Muslims should accept that variant of the Quran which enjoys most plausible evidence. No need of following Yasir qadhi.
By the ways, you didn't comment on biblical problems that I raise.
As I understand it, the ink on the manuscripts can not be carbondated so you’ll never get 100% certainty. It would be fascinating though to compare the ancient manuscripts.
But Hijazi script means that it was written in first century hijri.
SubhanAllah..this is amazing!
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
Obedience is a sacred trait of the Muslim faith. The word Islam means “to surrender.”...what free will ?
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said:
By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them. : Sahih Muslim 2749------ Allah wants you to be a sinner so he can send you to his hell.
No matter what Christians tries to prove, Qur'an always been preserved... muslims have memorization tradition which no other religions ever have or had.
th-cam.com/video/ANo6dXc2i-0/w-d-xo.html
Wow that's great.. keep up the good work 💎♥
You are trying too hard but you’re not making any sense. There are holes n you can’t cover the many holes with one show. Tell us why we have 37 qurans with all the numerous variations
What good work? Ask him how many chapters are in the manuscript? 19 out of 114 so where are the rest? Eaten by a goat right?
Wow wy wow he is saying it is a quart of the quran.
And he also is laing this quran is not the same as today and it is 8 to 9 centurry dont belive me buy the book he is showing to you.
You wil see. This guys dont belive in GOD THEY BELIVE IN YOUR MONEY.
catholico 4ever 19 chapters out of 114 is not a quarter please
I have a question that still bothering me. It is said that the earliest Quran is written without dots or called diacritical marks just like the current Quran we have today.
1. Is it permissible to add dots or diacritical marks in the Quran because Muslim know that Quran is the words of Allah and should be keep the way it is reveal?
2. Did adding diacritical marks and dots into the Quran consider change the words of God and make Quran not the only religious scripture that has not been change?
I am a muslim and this are the question that i have keep on asking to myself.
the diacritical marks n dots were introduced as islam & quran had spread to non arab speaking/reading populations.. it helps them to read it properly without making mistakes .. was introduced during caliph uthman... even when it was collected n compiled some companions were worried as it was not done during the time of rasullullah s.a.w.. bt kudos to the companions.. we are able to read n learn frm quran.. 😀
Adding dots and diacritical marks doesn't change the text or meaning but only helps non-Arabic speakers with pronunciation. For example, if you are not a Farsi speaker and you receive a letter in Farsi, you won't know how to pronounce the vowels. Regular Arabic and other languages that use Arabic scrips don't use these helpers; that is why its easier to read Quran than those other letters bc Quran has these helpers for non-Arabic speakers. The 1st Testament in Hebrew had the same issue bc Hebrew, like Arabic, also doesn't have vowels.
Adding dots was for making it easier to read for those who didn't know the original text. The reason why zuber Zahir and paesh were added was for a similar reason: to make it easier for non native speakers to pronounce the correct vowel
The Quran means Recitation in Arabic. The text itself doesn't really matter, but how it's recited. These writing changes were done to make the recitation as close to the Quraish dialect; the dialect of the Prophet.
Where can we purchased a copy of the Quran that brother Shabbir showed on this video.
@@infinityApologeticsClips Funny that you as a Christian is saying that. And you appear in the comment section in almost every anti-islamic videos i've seen. Mocking and making fun of Islam. What a waste of life. You are truly a Lost soul, blinded by hatred and shaytan. Now, shoosh back to your Greek mythology Trinity God that shaytan has fooled you to believe in.
@@saifklee178 ''Qureshi'' sounds like the late Qadyani turned evangelist....
@@fidelcatsro6948 I pray Allah removes the hate from your heart
@@abdirahmanaweso452 hate for who? Mirza Gulam (Laknatullah Kapuut)?
@@saifklee178 satan didnt fool them Saif, they fooled themselves, they hijacked horus and osiris life and replaced jesus life with osiris and horus and did this by themselves
Time always proves the Quran right, at this point non-muslim should just stop trying to prove the Quran wrong they just keep failing and keep getting proved wrong.
Who added the word allah in chapter 33:73 ?????? If you believe never added a single word in quran, plz show us the same manuscript of 33:73.
32 has only 30 verses..
@Patrick Chidzalo please don't speak out of ignorance.
Shows how desperate a hater could be. She /he has to resort to something doesn't even exist to argue for. Please check surah num 32 and see whether is there such thing as verse 73 in it? There's none! You are ambarrasing yourself by showing your ignorance.
Forget about written manuscripts. They will always contain errors. It is not easy to write out an entire book without errors. Manuscripts are of historical value only.
The Quran has been preserved through memorisation. It is because of this memorisation Muslim scholars can point out the errors in the written Qurans.
Lol what, you say it’s because of the memorization scholars are able to notice the errors lol.. what error if the Quran is perfectly preserved. Muslim scholars arnt the ones that are noticing the errors it the scholars of the west that are finding the errors. If it was really memorized then there wouldn’t be variances like there are now. Come on man it’s black don’t be nieve. Can’t believe everything you hear. How can Muslims think that Quran is complete if Aysha said (in Abu Ubaid's Kitab Fada'il al Quran) that Sura 33 had 200 verses but now there are only 73 verses it’s ridiculous
Very true! Look here for a page with erasures and corrections in the tuebingen manuscript: idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#p=9
He is always unbais when it comes to data and knowledge . A great and rare Quality for today's world! Also, for the position he represents.
🙂
Br. Shabbir Ally I know this may be beneath you but brother there are these hate channels who are spreading lies and misrepresenting what your saying. Maybe if insha'allah you have 10 mins in your day you can address these liars.
There will be a never ending supply of those.
They only take themselves and those that follow them to hell
The narrative has holes....yasir qadhi
Yes, because some hadith are contrary to what's written in the Quran. Can u give us the COMPLETE video where Qadhi said those words? Not the edited video of David Wood. Wood edits videos to suit him & fool Christians. Then people find out the truth & leave Christianity. It's kind of like 9/11. Lie about Islam and it gets more converts.
@@rayali2861 go to yasir qadhis channel and see why mimi hijab deleted the entire 30 min.
Sinking ship full of holes
Ray Ali
You can read Hadith it’s in there also. The are more than one Quran today and the verses are also different in each Quran.
I live in Saudi Arabia and nobody knows whose Yasser Qadhi is.
We understand the dialects of the arabs and we know for fact that the Quran has not a single word changed or corrupted.
The Arabic language is multi layers in terms of pronunciation but the core is the same. Thats you guys are confused 🤷♂️ for us is normal day to day exchange within the Arab communities.
Find another one. Otherwise you are welcomed to be a Muslim
When Ibn Umar-son of the second Muslim caliph-heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof’” (Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an).
Sunan ibn Majah 1944-It was narrated that Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”
Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an-A’isha . . . said, “Surat al-Ahzab (xxxiii) used to be recited in the time of the Prophet with two hundred verses, but when Uthman wrote out the codices he was unable to procure more of it than there is in it today [i.e. 73 verses].”
Farid answered your goat go check it.
😂😂 why don’t u answer him but farid? Try n learn ur own religion so that u can answer people
Jesus Is Lord Farid already answered the question... so repeating the question is a sign of desperation... rather you should be questioning the answer
@@jesusislord9999 you want me to go on talking about how a hadees works🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ that's just too much writing.
@@thanos2703 off course if you watch these cp and ap they just quote half the stuff. But rather go check all the video.
A quarter of the Quran - which parts of which Surahs? Most likely stories the Arabs took from various Jewish and Christian sources around Petra.
Fyi medina its other name..land of migration..arabs from noah decendents..children of isreal(jacob-huge gap) enter LATER..so does religion of judaism and christian..petra on north..muslim didnt pray..that way..plus prophet muhamad s.a.w never enter that cursed land LOT nation..sodom and ghommorah🤣did you say bible copied from torah??they children of isreal not even worship jesus..when al quran reveal it doesnt have title a.k.a surah😂sometime revelation came down..while prophet in war..eat,ride camel,giving speech etc..it doesnt have specific time..sometime more than 10 months revelation not came down..sometime..just..one capital word..or short verses..sometime time..continuation..why??its a reminder..they just a messenger..previous revelation..like injil or torah..in single day..or not more than 5 days its not even thick like now..ya.the current version..already added..go check..if not belief.oh ya..most prophet muhamad s.a.w companion..90% of it not arabs..truth always hurt..there rabbi and priest among them..the diffferent they study and search..while you are not.
@@GardeniaInc "Petra on north... Muslims didn't pray that way": Wrong. The earliest mosques from the 7th century have the qiblas pointing in the direction of Petra. There are even mosques in North Africa which point in a direction parallel to a line which goes from Petra and Mecca.
sal joe everything in Islam has been updated. From the qibla direction to the Kaaba,black stone,manuscript even the wall they throw stones against shaytan has been updated 😂😂😂😂😂
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
I love listening to Dr Shabir. He's absolutely humble.
LETS GOOO!! Islam can’t be destroyed, believe it or believe it not! Alhamdulillah
Already damaged
Fadumo Geele muslims over 1400 years can’t show one miracle Mohammed performed. 😂😂
Fadumo Geele what has that got to do with preservation? The standard narratives have holes. Deal with it
@@jesusislord9999 by who?
@@jesusislord9999
South a name like that, it sounds like your pureness of faith has been damaged
Is there a hadith that says Sun goes down to the throne of Allah every night
Sahih Muslim
Plz answer plz
Plz plz. If there is can you please explain that
yes there is a hadith like that. But it cud be a metaphor or a fabricated hadith
@@Yameen200 yea, I also think it's a fabricated hadees or metaphor
Thank you brother 💐🌹
@@Yameen200 How can a sahih hadith be fabricated?
You can look this up on Sunnah.com. I found:
"I asked the Prophet (ﷺ) regarding the Verse:--'And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term decreed for it.' (36.28) He said, "Its fixed course is underneath Allah's Throne." Sahih al-Bukhari 7433
and:
"I asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) the (implication of the) words of Allah, the Exalted: The sun glides to its appointed resting place. He replied: Its appointed resting place is under the Throne." Sahih Muslim 159
The explanation is Muhammad was a primitive man who made up whatever he thought his followers would like to hear.
I found another:
"Once I was with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque at the time of sunset. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Abu Dharr! Do you know where the sun sets?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know best." He said, "It goes and prostrates underneath (Allah's) Throne; and that is Allah's Statement:-- 'And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (decreed). And that is the decree of All-Mighty, the All-Knowing....' (36.38)" Sahih al-Bukhari 4802
Why are there over 30 DIFFERENT Arabic Qurans?
Who told you that sir?
@@dhdowlad ignore him brother. Just a troll.
The 30 refers to juz/sephara which are equal divisions of the entire Quran so you can read/recite it in equal parts over a month of 30 days. It's the same Quran - not different versions. People have been memorizing it for centuries and still do. If you want to see for yourself, I would suggest you go to a mosque during the months of Ramadan for the Tahajjud prayer: the Hafiz will recite the entire Qur'an (all 114 chapters) in equal parts over a period of 30 nights from memory and loudly for all to hear and follow along in their Qurans to make sure no mistake is being made.
So tell us more about these supposed 30 qurans.
Let's humiliate you here.
How come u didn’t know about this all this time? Allah is the best of deceivers
“O mankind, indeed the promise of Allah is truth, so let not the worldly life delude you and be not deceived about Allah by the Deceiver.” (35:5) Where did Jesus claim divinity?
Why do you Christian apologists waste your time insulting muslims unless you have some hidden jealousy inside you or a bored 30 year old that still living with mommy and daddy?
BB Boi how can Mohammed be a prophet without a prophecy or a miracle?
Tomato soup time nobody has said anything bad
@@jesusislord9999
Prophet Muhammad made many prophecies which comes to pass. And he performed many miracles as well
Based on my mathematical research i have found out that the most accurate Quran is the Othmani TAHa. For ex the 1st chapter
3rd verse is the King of the day of The Religion.
The second reason is verse 6 صرط is true not صراط.
In this way the 1st word amounts to 102, 1102 = 19 ×58,
1st verse amounts to 786, 1786 = 19 ×94, the total 139
letters in the 1st chapter amounts to 10143, 110143 = 19 ×5797,
Now 1st prime number is 2 and 10143th prime number is 106397, 2106397 = 19 × 110863.
If one adds all the quotients the sum is divisible by 19 as well:
58 +94 +5797 + 110863 = 116812 = 19 × 6148.
Note that the sum of the digits of numbers 110863, 116812, and 6148 each also is 19. The last quotient 6148: 6+1+4+8=19 is the
numerical value of واحد or ONE.
Last but not least the sum of dgts of 58, 94, 5797, and 110863
adds up, respectively to 13, 13, 28, and 19.
Concatenation of these 4 numbers is also divisible by 19:
13132819 = 19 × 691201. This last quotient's digits sums up
to 19 as well. It is noteworthy to mention that until 1500's
the largest prime number known was 719 which is the 128th
prime. Here we have 10143th prime!
Please verify these equations to be sure yourself Dr.Alley.
One last gift for you is this: chapter 1 contains 7 verses,
29 words, and 139 letters. Adding thse numbers one gets 176.
This number is the value of " الله لا اله الا هو"
Moreover 176 = 2 ×2 ×2 ×2 ×11. The sum of prime factors adds
up to 19. Number of veses in chapter 2 is 286 and in chapter11
is 123. 286286286286123 is also divisible by 19.
Test 74 : 30 : ov, or original value "over it is 19"
also adds up to 176: 16+12+10+5+1+22+15+16+22+16+21+20
= 176. Note that there are 12 letters. Now
743012176 = 19 × 39105904.
Also 743012703010514006040070300200, which involves
numerical values of the 12 letters is divisible by 19.
Last but not least the numerical value of the title of chapter 74
sums up to 775 and it consists of 6 letters. From right to left:
56747756 = 19 × 2986724.
It is 4 : 47 now and time to pray.
Hope you have a bit more arsenal in your disposal.
Thank you Dr.Alley and best regards.
Good to see Muslims finally looking at the manuscripts. I'm sure this one mostly agrees with the modern versions, but there was no mention of how many differences it any there are.
The manuscripts is only for the benefit of westerners because they can't wrap their head around oral preservation
It contains only 19 chapters out of 114 so it’s just 1/4 of the Quran n it has too many variations as well.
What different??al quran doesnt have version..thats why it doesnt mention..different bcs it the same😁
@Ummer Farooq wellcpeoplw. Today son and have no problem memorising it 🤷♂️
649 - 675CE!! Takbeer!!
Salaam. We meet again. Remember me catman?
fidel catsro, 1924 HAFS (Cairo) quran or 1985 king fahd quran?!..We'll be generous to you, lets say 1924! so your quran is not even 100 years old?!
@Christian Faith
Your ignorance is spiralling our of control mate🤣🤣🤣,did you even watch the video or did you research inaccurate sources to dig up dirt on Islam😅🤣🤣🤣.
Either way that doesn’t hide your foolishness?
There is full proof that these manuscripts kept in the Birmingham University and Tübingen University date back to the people who saw and heard the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) preaching in the time period between 649 and 675 A.D!
Please have some common sense!
May God bless you and your family and you be guided to the right path!
Verily There is only one God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God!
Thanks
one beer ?
take beer ?
"This is the published form in a nice leather binding, and it's only one quarter of the Quran" Shabir Ally said
Proving that there is no such thing as a perfectly preserved Quran ... and it was not until European culture emerged from the Dark Ages and Gutenberg invented his printing press, in 1440, that bookbinding came into being. The original Quran verses were written, not as a book, but as single or a few verses here and there on whatever material was at hand.
You have not been listening. Unlike the Bible, the Quran did not depend on paper for preservation. 1000's memorised the Quran during the time of the prophet and 10's of millions have memorised it today. People can change the gospel and print 100 different versions as no one memorised the original words of Yeshua (PBUH). The Quran will remain one and never 3 or 4 as the original words of Muhammad (PBUH) were memorised. That is your perfect preservation.
Uthman??thats not version..mushaf al imam??first copied😁we never fight which al quran want to used bcs it never exist..duh.
@@rayali2861 .. relying on human memory is the worst possible way to preserve anything .. and we also know that there are at least 37 different Qurans in Arabic, so how can that be ?
@@rayali2861 .. please show me where you find these fictional 100 different versions of the Gospel .
@@agffans5725 show us where are these 37 qurans
The way of recitation I.e the way of reading Quran has changed like non Arab pronounce qaf.( ق ) normally but it ahould be pronounce from throat .Arabic letters should be pronounce differently e.g. thaa ( ث) we can't say saa simply rather we to put our tongue in b/w our teeth incisors to pronounce it. It is known as the language of dawad.The dots in Quran is added for non arabs so that they can read easily now this is newly add thing but the written part is untouched since beginning. When the word recitation is translated into Arabic language it is known as (qirat) Many people actually don't know how to pronounce Arabic letters properly
ق qaf, not kaa
ث thaa not saa
People like Jay Smith and also Jay Smith should learn something.
But we Muslims believe in Quran without any evidence. But some people should learn the truth.
What truth? And from which book? Hole-y Quran? Repent
Dr Shabbir has Dr Jay another chance to debunk him
JESUS IS GOD.
AND HE LOVES YOU;
Nearly every New Testament book makes a claim, given in a variety of ways, with different words, that Jesus is God. None of them say the exact words, “Jesus is God.” I’m not suggesting that every one of these examples proves that Jesus is God, only that taken all together, there is clearly a major thrust of New Testament teaching that intends to convey to the reader that this is so.
Mark 2:5-7
----When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” Now some of the scribes were sitting there, questioning in their hearts, “Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
To answer the scribes’ question: No one can forgive all of a person’s sins except God. The reader is left with a decision: Is Jesus blaspheming? Or is Jesus God? Surely, the writer of this Gospel, Mark, is insinuating that Jesus is, in fact, God, rather than a blasphemer!
John 5:18
-----This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Here is evidence that Jesus himself claimed to be God (or that his enemies misunderstood him). However, the apostle John does not try to correct this misunderstanding. He seems instead to affirm that this is the reason his enemies wanted to kill him (and they were right in this matter - not to kill him, but that he was claiming to be God).
John 20:27-29
------Then [Jesus] said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me?”
There are other situations like this in the New Testament, where for example, a person worships Peter (see Acts 10:25-26), and Peter tells him, “Stand up; I too am a man.” Jesus makes no such correction, but instead affirms the man’s faith (and, in essence) his worship. Clearly, in the Bible, Christian worship is reserved exclusively for God.
2 Peter 1:1
-----To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with outs by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
Colossians 1:15
-----[Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created…
Notice the apostle Paul is saying here that “by [Jesus] all things were created.” This is a pretty astonishing statement to be made about any man! Nothing like this was ever said about Moses or David or Paul. The implication (as we saw in Philippians 2) is that Jesus existed before he was born of the virgin, Mary. How can we explain this? Jesus is God.
Philippians 2:5-7
------Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
The point of Philippians 2 is to encourage Christians to imitate the humility of Christ, who was “in the form of God” but “did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped.” In other words, although Jesus is God, he humbled himself by taking on human flesh (wow!), and we (as Christians) should humble ourselves too.3
Both the apostle Paul and the apostle Peter refer to Jesus as our “God” and Savior. Pretty straightforward.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John begins his Gospel by talking about “the Word” and saying essentially three things about “the Word”:
He existed “in the beginning,” which is a reference to creation (Genesis 1:1).
“The Word” was with God.
“The Word” was God.
So, of course, this raises the question: Who could possibly be all three of these things at the same time? It’s an astonishing statement. John 1:14 answers the question: “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory.” He is clearly talking about Jesus Christ, and he is referring to the transfiguration (see Luke 9:28-36).
There are many, many more examples in the New Testament, but see that the Christian belief that Jesus is God is not a simple misinterpretation of two or three passages, nor is it based on one or two obscure passages. This theme is pervasive and emphasized in the four Gospels and in the New Testament letters.
You cannot avoid it. Though you can nit and pick about what individual passages may mean, there is clearly a pattern of making claims about Jesus that could only be true of God (and are never said about anyone else in all of the Bible). He is the unique God-man.
Romamnos 10:9
Because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved
Bible is full of miracles bcos it’s from the creator but the sad thing is that allah n his prophet did no miracle in the Quran. A god who keeps abrogating his own revelations unbelievable
Idolatry is false
Idolatry leads to God's anger
Worshiping a human is idolatry
So it still has dots. Uthman got rid of six dialects and only wrote the Quran in Quriashi. He then sent nine copies to the Levant. Today there is no Uthmanic Quran. Who wrote this Quran?
If thats pre-uthmanic, then what did Uthman rewrite and how? simple question.
It's not claimed to be pre-Uthmanic!
@@sarjilalam496 Then its useless. the rasm after Uthman and its changes are known. there are not two copies which completely agree with one another. adding one copy more doesnt make it any better.
@@Peter-xf9jy how?
The preservation of thr quran means that no verse will be lost
@@Raul-vs6ff No, the coranic claim is none can change his words. qutila # qaatala = changed, done.
The rest are strawmen claims.
Well, Its not a new discover ,
I'm not sure why Ally is pulling it up now ..
The manuscript is now recognised as being written in hijazi script, although in the 1930 catalogue of the collection it is classified as "Kufic", and consists of the Quranic verses 17:36, to 36:57 (and part of verse 17:35)
to educate others..
@@fidelcatsro6948 educate of what ?
And why now ? Is it something to whitewash the chatters going around in the internet that their are multiple variants of Qur'an ?
I’m pretty sure it was recently re-dated with more accuracy.
Just a cover up
Can a Muslim please answer me why your all talking in the comments thinking this proves anything 😂😂 it’s only 25% of the Quaran and has many very variants to your other early manuscripts this just shows even more that Allah never perfectly preserved the Quran. What is worse is the two know it proves nothing and take you for fools by waffling knowing you will just believe what they say and never look into yourselves
Just go away,
But in case you're serious then debate me
The problem is it’s not even 25% of the Quran. It contains only 19 chapters out of 114 chapters n please ask them about the rest.
Mr. epic happily what subject and on what platform ? And if your serious send me a way of contacting you to organise a debate or just pipe down one of the two 😂
just say whatever about our holy book, Allah guarding it through our memorisation,even the replaced verses we can memorize it.
Before talking bad about other holy book, u should think about ur own. No.one can even memorise 1/4 of urs completed holy book and yet u guys still believe that the bible is absolut truth ,then say bad about other scripture. Even between catholic and christian have great different numbers of the bible. Have a shame！ And go to farid responds for more explanation about Quran ,dialect etc..jesus said O hear o israel ,our God Our lord is one. Ur mother said, o my familly, our president is trump. Think. Seek the truth then the truth will set u free。。。
Asalamualikum dr Shabir ali and Safiyyah.
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
I'd like to watch a debate with Ally vs Christian Prince discussing this Tubingen Quran.
The hero Christian prince is behind the screen😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
CP only debates from his hiding places with his finger on the mute button for anyone that threatens him intellectually.
A true coward.
Let him appear on the EF dawah streams. He will be humiliated.
But he prefers cowardice and taqiya.
Quran is 100% preserved😌
Goat ate some verses 😲
What a confusion 🤦
Who is your source ??? Distorted Islam 😂😂😂😂
Bla bla bla. Qur'an surah A'ala Allah States "We shall make you recite it so that you shall not forget except that Allah wills it." So the Qur'an is memorized orally so if it was eaten by goat and forgotten then it was Allah's will.
Asamani Yusif
إِنَّ عَلَيۡنَا جَمۡعَهُۥ وَقُرۡءَانَهُۥ ١٧
• Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali:
It is for Us to collect it and to give you (O Muhammad SAW) the ability to recite it (the Quran), (17)
• Abdul Haleem:
We shall make sure of its safe collection and recitation. (17)
فَإِذَا قَرَأۡنَٰهُ فَٱتَّبِعۡ قُرۡءَانَهُۥ ١٨
• Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali:
And when We have recited it to you [O Muhammad SAW through Jibrael (Gabriel)], then follow you its (the Quran's) recital. (18)
• Abdul Haleem:
When We have recited it, repeat the recitation (18)
ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَیۡنَا بَیَانَهُۥ
ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَيۡنَا بَيَانَهُۥ ١٩
• Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali:
Then it is for Us (Allah) to make it clear to you, (19)
• Abdul Haleem:
and We shall make it clear. (19)
٧٥:١٩
القيامة, آية ١٩
-
Quran - by Quran.com - قرآن
itunes.apple.com/app/id1118663303
I know you are frustrated
Judging by the intellectual content of your post, Christians are improving in their intellectual skills.
There are no muslims that can state these words ONLY--> I refuse to be tricked by the devil into worshiping him😣😳😲
✝️The Only Way.Jn.3;7✝️
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Say : O ye that reject Faith!
I worship not that which ye worship,
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
To you be your Way, and to me mine.
please allow me to share this with you:
_"And mention in the Book about Mary when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place.” “So she took a veil (to screen herself) apart from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit (Holy Spirit) that presented himself to her a perfect man.”_
_“She said: ‘Verily I take refuge in the Beneficent (Allah) from you! if you are God-fearing.” “He (the angel) said: ‘Verily I am only a messenger of your Lord that I bestow on you a pure son’.” “She said: ‘How shall there be for me a son while no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste.”_
_"He said: ‘So (it will be)’. Your Lord says: ‘It is easy for Me, and that We will make him a Sign (miracle) unto the people and a Mercy from Us, and it is a matter decreed. “So she conceived him (Jesus) and withdrew with him to a distance place.” “And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree. She said: ‘Would I had died ere this, and had been a thing forgotten’.”_
_"Then (a voice) called out unto her from beneath her: ‘Grieve not! Verily your Lord has made a stream to flow beneath you’.” “And shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards yourself. It will drop on you fresh ripe dates.” “So eat and drink and refresh your eye; and if you meet any mortal, say: ‘Verily I have vowed a fast to the Beneficent (God), so never shall I speak today with any human being’.”_
_"Then she brought the child to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: ‘Verily you have done a very indecent thing’.” “O sister of Aaron! Your father was not a bad man, nor was your mother an unchaste woman.”_
_"Then Mary pointed to him. They said: ‘How shall we speak to one who is (yet) a child in the cradle?"_
_“He (miraculously) said: ‘Verily I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet’.”_
_"And He has made me blessed wherever I may be and He has enjoined on me prayer and almsgiving so long as I live.”_
_“And (He has made me) kind to my mother, and He has not made me arrogant unblessed.”_
_"And peace be on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive.”_
_“Such is Jesus, son of Mary, a statement of truth, concerning which they doubt.”_
_“It is not befitting to Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He decrees a thing, He only says unto it: ‘Be’, and it is.”_
Holy Quran - Surah Maryam (Chapter Mary) surah 19 : ayat 16 to 34.
So who are those who gave the thumb down. Did they cursed anyone in this video. People are something else.
So you have 1 quarter of the quran tested in a muslim founded lab and university.
And the oldest sana manuscript
Is older then mohammad.
And has only 32 verses.
And are al jew christian secterian writings.
I always say the PERFECT QURAN THAT IS IN HEAVEN
HAS HOLES ON EARTH.
LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY VARIATIONS IT HAS WITH THE OTHER 4 HAFS QURAN AND THE 1924 AND 1984.
HAFS EDITION.
AND THE OTHER 30 QURANS THAT ARE AROUND.
Too many holes only allah can fix but allah too is incompetent to fix it so shabir Ali is trying to help allah
Jesus died and rose from the dead as was witnessed by a multitude of people, jews and roman. After he
had arisen from the dead, again, he was seen by and spoke to his disciples as well as a multitude of
people as is attested to in all the four gospels.
But you’d rather believe a man who couldn’t tell the difference between the Angel Gabriel and shaitaan and
had the koran revealed to him with absolutely no witnesses to confirm the veracity of his claim.
Well, good luck and God Bless!!
Your god eats sleeps and drinks the only gods I that do that are pagan gods
daddy cool The first gospel was written decades after Jesus’ death. None of the evangelists were eye witnesses.
@Emmanuel Toghanrowhat doubt that Trinitarian paganism aka Christianity is not the religion that Isa aka Jesus preached I have no doubts
🤣Chicken Prince and Dave Woody know Islam like your demi human savior knew the hour not at all😂 if these two are islamic excepts I'm should be next in line for pope
Dying proves him that he is not God as God is immortal...
What book is he holding?
95.4% 😂😂😂😂. The skin of the animal was 200 years old before they wrote on it so don’t lie
Jesus is not Lord. He never claimed to be lord. Stop worshipping men
we have old manuscripts of quran. from Prophet Pbuh time. 94%. Do u know what that even means? Physical proof that quran is preserved. do u have one percent of Bible manuscripts? and what u have contradict with todays bible. lmao.But pegans like u who make a messenger god will not understand this.
Where did Jesus say in the bible that he is God?
BB Boi where did Mohammed perform a miracle as a prophet? Is there any prophet in history or in the bible without a miracle? False prophet n u know it
Shamim Khanom the Bible was there before ur false prophet. He came n confirmed it so read ur Quran well. My bible is full of miracles whereas ur Quran has none. What kind of god do u have who cannot perform a single miracle? Amazing
Assalamualikum brother all books were destroyed by bad people but islam comes from Hart because our prophet Mohammed Salalawu wala arlehi thought us to read and memorize the hole Kuran now that is amazing than any other religion you can come across truth you can see
The Authenticity of the over 50 different Qurans with 93000 differences . LOL.
The Quran is Mutawatir. Surely this should suffice as evidence. Who cares if paper copies survived or not?
Yeah ok of course he would say that but the original manuscripts had lines that where erased and copied over and the original Quran was ordered to be burnt and rewritten
th-cam.com/video/riiqZ3IxrUM/w-d-xo.html so does torah..b4 thin..after moses passed away..it became thick..copies..added..bible far than that..many version.
Could you do a video on Womens rights in Judaism, Christianity versus Islam? Thank you
th-cam.com/video/ANo6dXc2i-0/w-d-xo.html
How come Shabir Ally is scared to debate Christian Prince (CP) if Islam is a true religion?
Why would he debate someone who is disrespectful and doesn't have much validity?
CP only debates from his hiding places with his finger on the mute button for anyone that threatens him intellectually.
A true coward.
Let him appear on the EF dawah streams. He will be humiliated.
But he prefers cowardice and taqiya
Salam. Do muslims keep Friday instead of sat? If so what hours. Jews keep Friday sunset to sat sunset. Plus gen 2 ..God rested on 7th day before law of Moses.
Great question! We don't have a Sabbath, but we do observe special prayers on Friday. Here's a video that explains what the Quran says about the Sabbath: th-cam.com/video/RyYocY6P-OU/w-d-xo.html
Friday is one of the holy days in Islam.
Every Muslim men go to afternoon prayer on that day known as Friday Jumma prayer .
This was allready known in 2015 , if God would protect the Quran why did 75% of this early Quran get lost ?
@Hamza I am mentioning that 75% of the Tubingen Quran is lost, however this hadith ( Sahih Muslim 2286 )
www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=5&translator=2&start=0&number=2277
states that many surahs are missing and we all know of the goat who ate the stoning verse. so the Quran is not complete.
It's online here: idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#p=4 The alleged variants are visible as corrections to the text.
Thanks. Shabir makes it sound like this is the same as the standardized version Muslims use today.
What variants are you talking about?
Do you have an example?
I want to read this book .plz send me this Gordon nickle's book
The world is a hellish place, nothing more to say. Coronavirus is on the loose, God is no where, only the same preachers talking over and over again but the God's delusion.
For those who have no alternatives...
said by those who haven't seen the real hell yet..
The time you see the real hell, this world will be forgotten and insignificant.
Convey message of Islam to all people of the world and to everyone who will come also convey message of Islam to all world leaders
Islam is fake
Study Quran having scientific truths science now discovered. Islam is the only way to everlasting success
Any original written Mushaf must be without spelling period. I happen to be trained reading Arabic Language Without spelling.
Why do Gavur nations have our manuscripts. What had is to do in Atheist Germany Univesity?
maybe Gavur becomes better muslim then us
I don't have any doubt at all,I believed all of it. Weather is writing at time of prophet or after. Remember allah guides who ever he will.
you are a good Muslim if you repeat the same lies over and over again. Muslims in the time of the Prophet were fighting over correct ayaat and Uthman was asked to write one official Mushaf so Muslims would stop fighting like the Christians and Jews.
Even shortly aftrer the death of the Prophet Muslims were fighting why if evcerybody had memorized the Quran ? This makes no sense.
If Muslims today say they memo Quran which riwayat and why did Egypt make riwayah of Hafs official Quran if all are the same
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more.
Hafs Quran in 2:10 it says that Muslims get condemned to hell for lying and in the Warsh Quran the same passage says they get condemned to hell for being LIED TO
He "said" (qaala), "My lord knows ..." (21:4) Hafs verses Warsh "Say" (qul): My lord knows ...
Hafs version qaala is the perfect tense and therefore Muhammad is the subject of the verb, but in the Warsh version qul is the imperative and therefore the subject is God who is commanding Muhammad/Muslims. This difference is repeated in 21:112.
Example of new ruling of Fiqh due to change in grammatical position of a word:
Top one is Qiraat Hafs and the bottom is Qiraat Duri.
In Hafs Recitation, Arjulakum (being mansub) is linked to washing, while in Duri recitation, Arjulikum (being Majrur) is linked to wiping. Thus, we get two fiqh rulings from the two recitations i.e.:
1. Feet are to be washed in wudu.
2. Feet are to be wiped.
Is this manuscript written in Quraishi dialect?
how can they say it is the same words ? The dots give meaning to the doodle .Without the dots the words can be read in many different ways ? One of the reasons Uthman did write his Quran the way he wanted it to be read
My brother Arabic speaking people know the vocabulary so they can understand without any trouble.
@Hamza the reason why they did ask Uthman to write a "correct" Qur'an was bc they had arguments about the right reading. ppl had different Qur'ans .Uthman ordered to burn everything else. Why would you do that if all were the same ??
@@HHasan-of2vi they can today but when Utham wrote the Qur'an with no dots you had to come up with your own interpretation.Even today most Arabs speak local dialects and nobody speaks classic arabic which is the way the early Qur'an was edited...in the dialect of the Prophet which in time became modern Arabic of today Cairo edition 1924
@Hamza Prophet Muhammad did not "approve" any Qur'an bc Qur'an was not finished until the last day of The Prophet ppl that could write and read had different copies and different dialects. During the times of Uthman they did try to get rid of the cunfusion. We can not say we have the correct words of the Prophet today and there are may different Qurnas today with up to 20-30 different Ayaat. (Yasir Qadhi) Muslims should never have said Qur'an was preserved and not even one word was changed. if even one word of the Quran was changed Islam is finished bc Allah was not able to preserve the Quran
When the sense of natural logical start coming to the mind, high ego is crying to avoid the truth. Trying hard creating new small weak analogy by ignoring the solid evidence for sake of the unknowns in the uneasiness mind.
Does this channel block difficult questions from non-muslims?
Yes bcos some questions have know answers
@@jesusislord9999 Man you can't spell.
alla of quran is more concern about sexual pleasure of man. He affirms that sexual pleasure is most essential in man's life even in heaven. What is the meaning of heaven. Why posterous(low degree of happiness) again in heaven. ie.;
Allah Says (what means): {Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a [new] creation; And made them virgins, Devoted [to their husbands] and of equal age,} [Quran 56:35-37.
Alhamdulillah - Dr Shabbir Sb
Those Muslims who still say quran is perfectly preserved from 1400 years.
Name me one quran manuscript from 7th, 8thcentury which has 114 surahs as of exactly todays quran..!?
POINT 1 QURAN WAS PRESERVED THROUGH ORAL RECITATION NOT MANUSCRIPTS WE DON'T DEPEND ON MANUSCRIPTS LIKE BIBLE DEPEND ON MANUSCRIPTS
POINT 2 hazrat jibril also told Quran to PROPHET MUHAMMAD saw through oral recitation not manuscripts
POINT 3 7th century all manuscripts are same as TODAY Quran some manuscripts has 20 SURAH some has 50 surah but are same as TODAY Quran POINT to be NOTED
@@ISLAMICDEFENSE9302 dude the revelation which Muhammad Got from the gabriel is no more?.. You know why if your answer is oral recitation.. Then why did zaid Ibn tabid found out people reciting different quran at battle of yamama? 😂Why did uthman burn other qurans? Because they differed!! .. It shows that there was error regarding quran preservation from 7th century itself.. And further why did the Al - hazzar university at Cairo threw all other quran manuscripts text??.. If it was all equal?? Those recitation and wordings differ.. Then why hafs was introduced?? 😂😂😂
@@ISLAMICDEFENSE9302 who wrote the quran?.. Answer me.. The basic root of recitation comes from the one who wrote quran.. And why did his followers forget the surahs and reciters were died in the battle and some other ayahs were eaten by the tame sheep of aisha?.. Where is full quran now? !
idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#tab=struct&p=1
Scanned copy of the Tuebingen manuscript hosted by the University for anyone who wants to check it out.
It is slightly older than the sanaa manuscript.
Where is the full quranic 114 verses manuscript and sheep eating verses ? And many lost in battle of Emama.???from 632 ?Woth whose permission Uthman standardized Quran? I thought it was revealed to Muhammad, isn’t he supposed to do it?
I wish you people could tackle DCCI's nonsense
@@infinityApologeticsClips What is your problem in the marital relationship between a man and his wives?
B F why was it in quaran 😂😂😂Aisha said her sugar daddy is bewitched
@@infinityApologeticsClips you excited by a man consumating with his wives? You can consumate with my female Siamese cat if you want...
@@infinityApologeticsClips oho? you're stalking me? I'm flattered.
Do me a solid, and watch some of this channel's videos while you're at it .
@@maxwellakate4475 Mr. Parrot, who repeats the words he hears without confirming or understanding its meaning, I challenge you to give me this verse!
This is not to celebrate but to think that not all version of quran was destroyed by Uthman, and Sana manuscriptst and the other manuscriptst cast a shadow of the present quran. Now if the Text of quran is identical, with the meaning of the Prophets preaching then there can be authenticity. But sadly its not. 🙏🙏
Could be a haf of the Quran or another Qirraat. Could be an explanation as the Quran was brought in 7 modes
There is no pre-uthmanic manuscript. except in your fantacy.
ok except the Sanaa which might predate Mohamet even, at least the lower text.
this text has dots and vowels, so its no rockets science to read it. it has been changed or its less old than the parchment.
Eg mushaf al imam..its from prophet muhamad> abu bkr copied its name suhuf abu bakar..uthman take it from that they are among first memorizer of al quran not a problem at all if not refer mushaf(skin)they memorize.. companion more than thousand people most of them memorize al quran and hadith....christian prince,arabs prince,david wood etc they didnt like share that with you..bcs uthman..make that effort gather companion who have precise memorization and recitation..lead by zaid ibn thabit(he been check memorization by p.muhamad and angel gabriel-last b4 prophet passed away)if he(uthman) try to change one word in al quran..sword will be on his head..against by other companion..who also memorize..al quran doesnt have version..you like it or not..it doesnt HAVE..only translation..depend on your tounge..languange..when you read and recite must in arabic..about vowel etc..these languange system..its not new..go met children of isreal..how they can recite..their revelation😎.which is from SOUND TO TEXT..like al quran.th-cam.com/video/nrlTo8WS9p8/w-d-xo.html you christian doesnt have it..bcs jesus speak aramic..and hebrew..you guys not even bother to learn it..semetic languange.
Does it matter for you if its pre uthmanic?
Do you know how Orman compiled the Quran?
@@Raul-vs6ff abu bakr copied nothing, Zaid collected the remnants of the Quran from bones and stones. not from perfect memorisation. Hafsa kept it under her bed fpr 20 odd years hh the uthman rewrote the whole stuff in qureishi dialect (without tashkil !?)
and greek was lingua franca at jesus time thats why. the Bible was not for desert nomades but for all mankind.
Salvation cannot come from Arab (because the don't have the COVENANT of God). Is only the Jews who had the COVENANT of God. Muslim are the followers of Ismael (Arabs) Christian are the followers of JEWS (Esrael who had the COVENANT of God). Quaran 2:40, Genesis 17:21.
Yo please can anyone help me how to get this published version of tübingın manuscript please!!!
th-cam.com/video/p1JwePbJGcg/w-d-xo.html
@@pr7049 th-cam.com/video/nEguur02tPg/w-d-xo.html
I was waiting for someone like you!!! Checkmate clown🤡 🤡 🤡
LMAooooooooooooooO 😂😂😂
Sanaa is only few surahs small fragment of Quran. Birmingham is also surahs 19-21 only partially with preislamic stories of seven sleepers and Moses.
In science manuscript is complete or nearly complete book. It would be embarrassing for them if you get these copies⚠️⚠️⚠️
Sanaa even has two texts in it. The turkish muslim scientists found it with ultra violet light. It is different than the text above, which proves according them the development of Quran. In plain english Quran has changed and there is not to be found the Quran from the tablet of jennah⚠️⚠️⚠️
As Suyuyat page 88:"Umar said Quran used to have 1 027 000 letters. "Then over 7️⃣0️⃣% of Quran has been lost. As Suyuyat 1:2 the surah of cow has lost 1️⃣2️⃣4️⃣ayas alone.
The ayas of breastfeeding adult men 10 times and stoning adulterers lost but valid in ruling.
sunnah.com/urn/1262630
Some surahs lost in battle of Al-Yamama when 70 only reciters of the died.
sunnah.com/search?q=Al+Yamama+Umar