the Street Fighter 6 character nobody plays
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we're doing online qualifier matches with Dhalsim! This is by far the least popular character in SF6, so I wanted to get to the bottom of why! Let's hop online and see what rank we end up in!
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"Why are you panicinOH GOD SHE GOT IN"
Dhalsim in a nutshell
As a JP player, I relate to the experience of realizing that I'm teaching someone the character over the course of a set and they beat all my gimmicks by the end.
Match 1 you feel like a puppetmaster as they eat a steady diet of your gimmick of choice. Match 3 Round 3 feels like their fist is always where your face is just about to be X_X
Don't do cmd grab then :)
always fun playing new challenger giefs and seeing how many command grabs you can get in a row before they figure it out lol
@isaacclarke7983they all play the same, they spam projectiles and that dumbass command grab, then DI soon as you get close
Win game 1, lose game 2 then play a different character game 3
Dhalsim main here. I love this character so much. He feels so much more complete in SF6 than he did in SF5 and I'm having a blast. But yes, he is very very difficult. Easier than he was in 5 tho due to simplified teleport input
Luckily pretty much all returning characters feel complete, with a healthy amount of options ❤
I'm learning Cammy right now and my match up VS Sim has been pretty bad. Wanna do a few matches sometimes?
the only reason I started playing him was because they simplified the tiger knee teleport because I watched the best players in the world fuck that motion up mid-match and lose rounds for it and I know I couldn't take it
Yeeee, I became a Dhalsim main in the last season, and god it was so amusing to trick folks with setplay, but i always felt like it was more business than pleasure, y’know? But that’s because of the game SFV was, so with SFVI being more fast paced because of the mechanics presented, i genuinely stopped minding the TK Tele being changed.
@@SatisfactoryBrosf6 definitely slower than 5 but alright
Good for you
"I should be able to keep Marisa at arms reach" This man's a comedian
There's a phrase about fighting games that goes "rushdowns have to do multiple addition and subtraction problems, but Grapplers have to do long division once. (Okay, well it's actually Potemkin instead of grapplers but it still applies.)
What I would like to add is that most Zoners throw out math problems, then force you to solve them. But Dlahsim... Dlashim requires you to know geometry and solve it in a split second.
This is the funniest way I’ve ever heard someone describe the complexity vs severity of knowledge checks.
I’m a Sim main and I’m honestly surprised you picked him up that well in such a short time. Major props doing placement matches with him
He has good fundamentals
@@thatlonzoguy and I know street is very diferent to anime figthers but croft is an axl main in strive so that might help him a little since dhalsim looks like someone that zones better whit normals than special moves.
@@reynauldwhistles2338 he can zone with normals but is high-risk. You can get command grabbed from full-screen for example. All of his limbs are acceptable hurt-boxes and if you're against a masher more-often than not if you try to zone with a normal your arm is just going to get hit for your efforts.
His normals are low-reward/high-risk, and his specials are also low-reward/high risk lol, since they're so slow
If you continue to play Dhalsim here's some tips. Cr. MP and St. LK are cancellable so you can counter DI in neutral. Yoga comet is really good in neutral, and if you EX it you can TP afterwards. Drill can be good, you just have to aim it right. Hit the shin or feet and you're good.
Yeah I could have learned all of this in like 5 mins by playing the game
I didn't know any of it so good tips.
I've played street fighter all my life and finally maining chun for the first time ever despite that. I loved Dhalshim back in ST, SF4, and SF5. I haven't experimented much with him in SF6 due to intense focus on chun, but I appreciate you leaving this here. This is super useful to know ahead of time if I pick Sim as my alt.
How do you counter DI with a cancellable normal?
@@jamesw5713if your normal hits the armour of their DI then cancel it into your own DI
That diamond 1 Ryu "StackBradford" was a ultimate grand master akuma in SFV. Dude is goated with the sauce.
One of the meanest things I found with Dhalsim was from his head drill, he can cancel it into air fireball or teleport which can trip up come people
Watching Crimson do that was like, "Oh, I have to play this character"
New tech !! Im using this later
Oh shit, thanks for the tip. Def implementing that immediately
If you cancel into an ex air fireball you can do another aerial move after. That can be head drill, and yes you can do another ex comet after. So, quadruple overhead into teleport is a thing.
@@ubeemac7094 I was wondering about that. Hell yeah, glad it works
Dhalsim has always been a knowledge check character. He takes a ton of patience, a high attention span, lots of labbing, and good reactions. For many people, he isn't viable but for the ones that put in the time he is like nuclear Gandhi that no one has the answers for.
I'd personally love to see more Sim here. Him and Lily are the characters I'm the most interested in and I see no one playing them compared to everyone else
Because Lily is lame as balls
Thank you for making this video! I’ve been maining dhalsim and loving it but it’s been hard to find good guides or anything for him because nobody is playing him! I definitely need to make more use of teleport and levitate after watching this! SF6 is my first ever fighting game and he’s my first character so I’m losing like 9 games out of 10 but having fun doing it 😆
I was having a similar problem as far as guides and stuff. I found a really good channel called GenoMingo and he has some great dhalsim tech videos and just recently uploaded a really awesome guide!
@@sudsysoapy thanks, I appreciate the recommendation! I’ll check him out!
I do 😢 he’s fun, but needs some love. No longer the default zoner pick, his defensive options suck as well
ngl, I'm struggling with him. Hard to adjust to the new mechanics as Sim. Just so many ways for an opponent to get in. 'Couple tweaks can really help him out with regard to his normals, though. That said, it's cool to see all the new moves they jammed into his kit from past games.
Huh? Get your perfect parry game up
Out of curiosity whats your tier list of zoners in the current roster? No hate here, genuinely curious
@@Boney4000guile, jp, dhalsim
@@skubadoobie this is very solid, I would change the order to JP, dhalsim, guile. When someone knows how to use JP, its just disgusting
I've played since SF2 but never gave Dhalsim much of shot. Finally tried him in 6 and man...I've been depriving myself. What an interesting character. It's one thing to fight him but another thing entirely to play him.
ST Sim is soooo much fun. Growing up and generally staying as a shoto main in my later years, I picked Dhalsim on a whim when they did HD remix and have been playing him almost nonstop ever since
You were using the P teleport a lot, and everybody was holding back because you were testing their blocking with the pokes. When they step back, they get behind you on the P teleport. Gotta switch it up with the K teleport every once in a while. Also mix up Yoga Fires and Yoga Arches. EX Yoga Arch is a good control tool with its three ranges and the bouncing
I did his combo trial, labbed with him for hours, went to ranked, had no idea what to do when someone is actually fighting back and i can’t even get out of silver with him even though i have multiple characters in plat. I won’t give up though because he is very fun, but really hard to play.
Stuck in bronze with all these modern Kens lol
Try watching people who play em, Broski is a good one. Could help you find answers to in-match problems
Fellow Dhalsim main here, my best advice is to wait for jumps a lot. Most people get too impatient vs him and kill themselves getting hit by your back MP or HP
@@xG40x kens cool
I can teach you Sim. I'm only plat 3 but I'm diamond with Manon and think he's my next to take jewelry shopping. Search for dads clan and ask to join
I think there’s also the factor that there’s tons of new characters with cool designs, alongside old favorites getting redesigns that are more apparent than his.
And Dhalsim already wasn’t too terribly popular of a character.
He’s boring. Should have put Alex in instead. Or Dudley. Or bison. Guile is also boring
Boring? Maybe boring to watch , not to play, when you play with him , you’re doing all this preemptive thinking and planning while trying to keep your execution up , and keep your opponent out . Alex is just another grappler lol…
@@christopherbailey3547 Alex is cool bro he can do a flash elbow
These videos have been awesome. Hope you do a similar one like this with the other characters. Cool that you came out Plat5 straight away! Shows your game knowledge is based, even if you aren’t 100% with the character. Super entertaining!
Dude, I finished his combo trials and they were MANIACAL
He’s been my favorite character for like the longest time lol i didn’t even realize no one else plays him
Jmcrofts: barely anybody plays dhalsim
Me who runs into him constantly every time I play
John I’m so glad to see you get the enjoyment you were anticipating out of sf6, it’s great for us viewers too! But something that’s always perplexed me about you is how you always manage to either pick a Zoner or a Grappler in any game you play (sometimes both😉) and yettttttt, you managed to play dbfz as long as you did 😂❤
I love Dhalsim and Blanka the most. But Sim is too hard for me... so please keep using him! He deserves more love.
This was pretty fun to watch. I'd love to see more dhalsim videos, or even just other "lower tier" characters.
watching some top level dhalsim, all I've seen is using his unique attacks into yoga fire into level 1 super. That's really about it. He pokes, floats, and does really basic combos. It really is just the fundamentals. This is probably just because it's so early on. His back heavy punch (the two fist low attack) is really popular for special canceling.
I just did some combo trials and watched crimson.
In the last match the teleport was very risky option, the oponent didnt have to guees by jus walking backwards, Dalsim always appeared un front of Ryu, maybe that teleport could be a better option against charge charater that stays crouching more time
The top key in all fighting games to win is patience, execution, and spacing. Dhalsim seems to do be the character that those fundamentals are far more strict than most of the other fighters.
I've been maining Sim since launch and he has so many little interactions to memorize on top of his teleport being a lot easier to deal with.
That being said his air fireball and float are mean as ever and his damage is actually pretty nice.
It's so funny seeing you and comparing your grace in defeat vs darksydephil who just sits there mashing and raging lol
That is exaclty it. Even more than in 5 zoning in 6 requires ice cold veins. DI is so scary so you got to have that calm mind.
Dhalsim is, was and always will be my main 🧘♂️ 🔥
Dhalsim definitely feels bad - he can react to jump and use an anti-air, then they can just hit his anti-air with an aerial and it doesn't even trade, dhalsim just loses.
All his pokes are susceptible to this, and his priority is ass - if 2 moves collides dhalsim's won't connect and he'll just get countered. It forces sim to use fireballs for everything due to that risk, but those are very slow.
Ngl had me laughing hard when you hit the slide pose along with dhalsim 😂
Sim is going to be top tier like he was in 5, top players just haven't labbed the sauce yet, or if they have then they are waiting to show it in tournament
I like to see the Ryu just walking to change where Sim drops from a high teleport. I look forward to learning him as well but not there yet. Good job!
Definitely keep playing him. I have seen players getting a lot of value out of the up fireball, throwing it out regularly like Sf5 Feng. It seems to break up the opponent’s game plan of trying to get in all the time.
My pc stopped turning on about a week ago and i'm really craving some sf6. This was great to watch. Thanks for the Dhalsim pointers.
Defo need more jmcrofts dhalsim content mainlined into my veins
Yo I’m rolling off that Slide pose you did against that Diamond Ryu 😂😂😂! Priceless and you killed this video! A+ ✅
Yes! You make Dhalsim look fun to play. A lot of the characters are fun to play fortunately!
Ken
Jim come over to the Sim army we'd love to have you! Two pieces of tech for aspiring yoga masters:
1. When Jim is getting Yoga flame as an ender, you can OD that move knocking them into the air and hitting them with level 1 Yoga Inferno with Heavy Punch. Does about 33% all together
2. I have been cleaning up from instant teleporting behind and mashing light punch. If you get it real close to the ground you can get air light punch, standing light punch, crouching light punch, into OD fireball. That all combos without counter hit.
to add on to #2, they show in the combo trials that air heavy kick after a teleport can usually keep them in hitstun until you land and link into another move. It's pretty sick
Long post incoming, but Im super happy you made a video featuring Dhalsim!
The thing that is really complicated about him is his moveset. He is almost like controlling two different characters. You have your ranged tool kit, and then your up close (back normals) tool kit. This includes his anti air normals (as they are all back normals as well). You have to juggle these while a match is going on, where one misinput could make you very minus in front of the opponent, or lead to a very big whiff - which is pretty much death in this game.
In addiiton to that, your longer ranged pokes (5mp, 5mk, 5hp) are not special cancellable. Therefore, they are quite weak to Drive Impact without proper spacing / timing / fireball coverage.
Then you also have to work on spacing for your slides and dive kicks - as they can be either incredibly unsafe, safe, or even potentially PLUS dependent on spacing.
Know when and how to teleport and utilize your unique movement options from these types of attacks is key. This isn't even going into float (which is AMAZING when used properly).
Im quite new to SF, but I tend to like complicated / unique characters in fighting games (I play venom, kum haehyun in +r / xrd and zato in strive) - so I've been a bit addicted to learning dhalsim - even if the ranked experience can be a bit frustrating when learning a character like this.
There are a distinct lack of guides on how to play him - so maybe if i it higher diamond / master I'll try making one.
The reason you don't see Dhalsim much is because Dhalsim is mostly in the highest ranks. Noobs always pick safe and easy characters, but Dhalsim is one of the most powerful characters if you can play him.
Crofts: Dhalsim is the least playable character in SF6
Mistah Crimson: I main Dhalsim and win Headstomper with only him.
I was gonna say something similar, but realized that he was talking about Dhalsim's online representation/presence.
How many Dhalsims showed up at Headstomper in total?
I'd love to see you play more Dhalsim
Lily, Dhalsim and Blanka are all characters I've had trouble finding online. I have fought them all before, but they are few and far between for me when roaming the battle hub. Maybe ranked will be different!
Edit: I would LOVE to see you play Dhalsim more!!! You're the only one playing him after all lmao
I’m a Sim main, and you did great. You can anti-air with b+hp, drive rush into b+mp, xx OD yoga flame, xx into level 1 mp super. That will condition them not to jump.
Using a CaC with dhalsims movestyle is cursed and i loved it.
“Any old scrub can beat a Diamond one.” Lol, not even sir; not even
I noticed a lot of people were able to just back up to defeat the behind teleport... they'd take a few steps and you're teleport put you right in front of them, facing the wrong way. His TP might be a lot weaker than initially thought, or only useful as an escape now.
That character is for real street fighter enthusiasts.
Didnt play SF5 but used to main him extensively in SF4, and some of the changes they made here really hurt. Teleport doesn't seem like it's invincible on wakeup anymore? I've gotten hit out of it a couple times when "Reversal" popped up on the screen. I'm positive I did not fudge up the input. Also, they changed his aerial HP so it's no longer an instant overhead when you hop backwards to get some breathing room. The loss of the aerial headbutt from HP also means you can't combo after a teleport as close to the ground as you could, and the biggest one is the loss of his U2. It was essentially a half screen grab that was awesome, especially after a teleport . The SA2 is meh. Even if you combo into it, it's just so limited in its practicality. And why did they change the input for Yoga Mummy? It was down HP in the air for literal decades....
“In the background. Making the feet clap” juri mains sweating nervously rn 💀
More Dhalsim!
I just want Vega back
Ew, why? Leave Shadaloo in 5
@@beau1654 I like his mask
@@beau1654 i dont really care about the lore, vega is sick
All 10 Vega fans are crying rn
@@thespookyest I can dig that lol
“The neutral jump and now I’m cooked!”
Your commentary is hilarious 🤣
I sense a distinct lack of EX lobbed yoga fire here. That move is bananas... EX fireball priority means that it kills any non-super projectile it touches, it stays around for days and tracks the opponent if they switch sides on it. It's like you put it out in the world and it wins neutral for you...
Ok, maybe I'm overselling it, but it's really really good.
I would be interested but I thinkthe rushdown tactics in this game are strong and lots of people play that strategy... this makes it tough going for a Dhalsim main.. unless you are really strong with him. I think no-one wants to get bodied continuously by ken, Luke or Ryu.
If the second ryu is actually StackBradford he's a UGM? Warlord? Akuma/Ken from SFV, trusting the rankings in the first week or two is a terrible idea for assuming relative skill level.
You can see it in some of the stuff he does. Ducks your SA1 and throw punishes it. Jab checks raw teleport. Walks under teleport -> j. hp to attempt to whiff punish your landing frames with st. lp.
holy shit Dhalsim is in sf6!
“I can’t let you get close” Sim is Chael Sonnens kinda guy 🤗
lmao that "Diamon 1" was stackbradford haha that's pretty unlucky
This happens every time dhalism also is ranked low at the beginning then is considered the best
I went against a Dhalsim in my losers bracket in our regional this past weekend. I was super annoyed! There was no way I could have gotten the matchup experience, so it felt like my run was stolen. I guess the answer is to put the hours into learning to play him myself.
We should all know that dhalsim will never be low
Damn, back in the day when we were stacking quarters on the arcade at the neighborhood food mart, everybody was playing Dhalsim
ever since justin wong destroyed me with dhalsim's style in avatar battles, i feel like it might be pretty great to give it a shot of dhalsim!
I'm all for some more Dhalsim. He's a character I'd like to pick up at some point, but I'm not sure I'll be ready to commit enough to actually git gud.
@jmcrofts I think if you play arcade mode and play against Dahlsim i think the computer will show you some nice techniques to add to make you even better (you are already really good btw i just noticed you don't use some moves that'll make you harder to deal with like upward yoga fire + teleport for cross up etc)
Hey Jmcrofts how are you doing ?
I was wondering if you could explain the process of developing safe jumps, oki situations and setups in general. I'm sure that requires frame data knoledge but i need to learn how to develop and discover my own setups and oki regardless of the character and without depending on others to make videos with their own setups.
I know, that making a special DI for Daslim would be impractical or unfair
However, if his DI used his stretchy limbs and was a back dash that left a limb/hit box in place.
As a dhalsim main he is a great character you just have to commit to him (I’ve been playing sim since street fighter 4)
I’m new to not just street fighter but fighting games in general, but I’m instantly loving this character. Any rpg I’ve ever played I’ve enjoyed casters/ranged, I enjoy kiting more than chasing. More like I get less pisses off kiting then chasing 😅. This character is hard but so is fighting games, but I’m not gonna give up! Also picked up MK11 and am getting ready for MK1. Playing as collector and practicing zoning!
I’m so bad at fighting games I no longer buy them, but I enjoy your content. What I’ve gathered from watching other players play Dhalsim on TH-cam, using teleport to back away from the opponent is key.
"Oh no, she got in again."
QUIT WARPING IN FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY
His D.lp in air cancels into stance, fireball, and teleport. hit around chest and above you teleport always at the perfect height to land a hp to be plus enough to connect hk or hp.
“I’ve been downloaded, 401k.” 😂😂😂
Imma start saying that whenever I’m getting destroyed.
Its hilarious to think my first actual online match was against a Dhalsim
Dhalsim is a strong character in each and very Street Fighter iteration . It is just that he needs a huge amount of skill and excellent understanding of the game and matchups. He is also a high learning curve character which is why most people do not want to invest their time putting up with. The dedication and commitment to being at least decently good in this character is a lot of hard work and grind. His movement mobility is also slow and hard to control which players also need to adapt. Which is why he is the most difficult character to use in every Street Fighter game
Master Dhalsim to humiliate other Platinum players. Beautiful.
Your day one Sim is nice!🤘🏽 we need more Sim from you JM!🤙🏽
Dhalsim: Without enlightenment, you are lost in darkness.
his point blank defense is really bad but his drive reversal feels really strong not because it's better than anyone else's but when you knock them full screen with frame advantage it's such a great situation for him. probably the same for JP. plus it's easy to build back your meter from that position with limbs, and Dhalsim gets overcapped on meter pretty easily in neutral so you're always looking for ways to spend it
This was really fun to watch, I'd love to see more Sim content
Gotta use that Drive, Crofts.
To be fair that last ryu was Stack Bradford; he was godlike with akuma in sf5 :)
i think one idea that might have some merit is using short ranged faster normals like jabs as "fake" long range buttons to try and provoke jump or drive impact.
Your last opponent was a fellow TH-camr. Nice video and plz do more dhalsim :)
lily? i sleep.
Dhalsim? real shit!
Yo John, can you by chance do a video explaining different ways to do charge inputs and charge super. U mentioned in the Guile trials that there were techniques players uses to have clean inputs for them
I need Q/G. Need me a big command grab combo world buff man. So far have platinum Big lady, Ken and Dee Jay. This game is so accessible and fun.
'Look like a leprechaun to me', you said that right as I was thinking it lol
"Anyone can beat a diamond 1"
Me who tries to get in gold :'(
His jump is what makes me avoid him. Very unique character tho
It takes getting used to, but he has the teleport to help compensate.
I'd love for you to give a good 'everyman' view of playing Dhalsim to get a better idea of how good he is/how much is just people failing knowledge checks. I still think Dhalsim is undertuned but I might just be a casual scrub.
The system mechanics are out to get him. Add on slow action out of his teleports and he is noticeably weaker than sf5.
They can't get in on you if you get in on them. Rush down dhalsim forever.
That mudamudamuda super is siiiick
this was the most fun sf6 vid to watch so far. love the game, best fighting game in ages. good to see some dhalsim. and who doesnt wanna root for a cool chill guy like jmcrofts.
Yes please, I think Dhalsim is the most fun character to watch. Meanwhile I couldn't even do the first basic combo trial for him (some of the rest though).