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Imagine being so much more powerful than normal humans and having them think they can treat you like garbage. I'm surprised Magneto showed as much restraint as he did.
In the early days, he often did not.
Absolutely. If you’re alive in the same world as Magneto, it’s by his grace
He's clearly the good guy
Magneto could rip the metal of space time out of itself
This man can rearrange the molecular biology of an atom if it has any metal element inside it....Magneto is all powerful....not one bullet , tank, missile, or weapon can hurt him....... The dude is a God....he walked around like a servant
@@Yvqi72he can also create magnetic fields which makes him Ben more unstoppable
The Beyonder divided people into teams during Secret Wars based on their dreams. Magneto's dream was mutantkind living in peace, so he was grouped with the heroes despite his methodology.
Didn't know that that's dope
Magneto has only ever been a villain through necessity when you think about it. The real villains in mutant lore have always been the humans trying to suppress them and the conflicts between the X-Men and other mutant characters was always born of their disagreement on how to achieve peace. The brotherhood doesn’t attack people just to be evil. They target military and political interests that are working against mutant kind as a whole and the only reason the X-Men interfere is to try and help with mutant PR. It never works though and mutants just get more and more hated by the general public and the leadership in charge. It was almost inevitable that the “evil” mutants joined the good guys and the good guys adopted the methods of the brotherhood. At the end of the day they’ve always been fighting the same fight.
Magneto is one of the best villains along with Dr. Doom, Thanos, and Apocalypse.
In Marvel.
+Smiley “Succmaster” Cat I will. All three of those characters are generic. Do you honestly think that something like "lost love" is really that unique? There are dozens of characters in the superhero genre alone that share that origin or motivation, let alone fiction in general. Apocalypse is just a looming threat, a pinnacle of power meant to be the "greatest" threat to the X-men, the same way that Darkseid is made out to be the greatest threat to the Justice League. He may have a lot of powers, but that alone doesn't make for an interesting or dynamic character. Both of which, Apocalypse fails to be.
Mister Sinister is probably the closest to being a great character because he has a very interesting thought process and motivation. However, this is hampered by the fact that he is often portrayed as a cliché mustache twirling villain.
Meanwhile, Cable is just your garden variety time traveler, who comes back from the past to try and prevent his future from happening.
voiceinthewind
I think great power is half of being a villain. The other half is looking and sounding cool.
Thomas Pierce Hm, I'm of a completely different mindset. A character, whether a protagonist or antagonist, who is just incredibly powerful and looks cool is a shallow character in my opinion. It doesn't take much effort for a writer to make a character cool and for that reason they don't often resonate with me.
I would prefer to read about a character with a complex history and thought process. Things like looking cool or having godlike abilities isn't as important to me as making the character interesting first. I am more likely to read about a character like Lex Luthor (a businessman in a suit, who has no superhuman abilities) then say...Zod or Black Adam.
Thomas Pierce FUCK YEAH 👍👍👍👍🤓🤓 magneto for president
It kills me that the movies have had such a devastating effect in the Marvel Comics landscape. Marvel seems hell bent to expunge anything it doesn't own the movie rights too at the cost of literal decades of lore.
Magneto is by far my favourite 'villain'. I love his power, his rage, his control over his power and his inner turmoil. A marvellous character study.
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I prefer to call Magneto an anti villain
I agree. Because I watched Star Wars first, I can see Magneto being the *Darth Vader* of Marvel.
@Bob Ghanoush They are just one of those villains whose good within themselves were wasted by those around them.
@@riiddisbuk2496 no it's already said Darth Vader is based off of Dr.doom
@@countdracula7773 Interesting!
agree
Magneto is such a tragic character even though he's a villain his motives and backstory are more then justified hes awesome
Love Magneto I just wish they had made a comic with him and Xavier going around saving mutants and stuff. It would be called Chuck and Eric's Excellent Adventure
Sounds like a Seth Rogen movie
They have a number of times actually.
It would be great. Charles would be the wild one and Magneto is the straight man
kingknotts can you link those instances bc I rlly wanna see that
kingknotts Frack...anyone remember the Savage Land episode from the Animated Series? Where Professor X and Magneto are stuck together briefly without their powers and Professor X can inexplicably walk again? Wasted opportunity, that. Unsure if similar situation(s) occurred in any of the comics.
they should've kept him as the father of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Also, Magneto is a total BA and I love him. I don't consider him as a villain either, rather someone who is sort of lost and will do whatever it takes for respect and protection
He's not lost one bit
Anti hero roles in comics and graphic novels keep the storylines healthy, entertaining and unpredictable. When someone first shared with me who Magneto's character was based off of it made sense that his motivations were never completely selfish even though his approach was. But no he can't be categorized as a villain.
He can definetly be classified as a villain tho?
I wonder if people have used the “you’re no better than the ones that hurt you” card to describe Magneto’s character. That would be sad.
He's definitely a villian, just one with sympathetic origins
I have always loved Mangeto, such a great character
He’s interesting
I almost gagged when you said that Scarlet witch and quicksilver aren't really his offspringthat is an example of Marvel putting the movies before the source material. Sickening
Probably
They weren't his kids in the first place that was out in later as his kids
Comics change all the time.
baby Jesus The movies are such big money spinners, they are practically the source material nowadays!
Marvel didn't own the rights to the X-Men at the time! They legally couldn't say Magneto was their father! Now Disney has bought 21st Century Fox, maybe we'll see them retcon this.
Magneto definitely needs his own origin movie
Is it weird I prefer to watch this over movies or TV shows? Just sitting here eating and watching Magnetos history. It's just so interesting.
@Matthew Piskorsky yup. Always did prefer classic marvel and not some universe where everything is sucking the ultimate universes dick. Like the actors though.
I've never commented on one of these videos before but when it comes to my favourite mutant...well...my hand was forced. I LOVED the Fatal Attractions Saga - this version of Magneto was my absolute favourite, Magneto is fantastic - by far my favourite super villain.
Is there anyone more perfect for Magneto than Michael Fassbender...outside of Sir Ian McKellen.
"Papa" from Stranger Things.
as much as i like prefessor x i prefer magneto
@Cloud Strife so basically you would be molecule man
one of my personal dearest and most sympathetic ''villain'' of all times
love X-MEN so dearly
but honestly it was Magneto' first appearing in issue #1 what makes it pure GOLD
DOOM and Magneto are the best villains/antagonists in comic history. No 🧢
Wait, wait, wait, wait. If Magneto thought he was in the right, then why tf did he name his team, "The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?"
he didn't. he named them The Brotherhood of Mutants. it was the news media who added the evil part.
Captain America Ah, thanks.
yep!
He was being ironic.
That is one of the smartest questions asked in years
Magneto is one of the most fascinating characters in the history of comics.
I hate the fact that Marvel is trying to push the X-Men into obscurity.
It sucks but I suppose you can put at least some of the blame with 20th Century Fox and their monopoly over X-Men movies.
+Jason Slade Oh yeah, definitely. That and their terrible X-Men films giving everyone a pretty skewed idea of who the X-Men are.
+Silver Fang Fox will never give up x-men which sucks but I also know I'm weak for x-men stuff so I'll always break down and see the movies even if they are horrible...
+WayToTheTwilight I understand. I really just want them to do what Sony did with Spider-Man, especially since Apocalypse didn't do so well. I want an X-Men Netflix series tbh.
+Silver Fang oh God yes, a series would be amazing for x-men so they could put out better non rushed stories
Magneto always been one of my favorites. Its hard to follow his story line since one writer will make him a good guy and one will make him a bad one. I'm glad he's still an anti hero and prevalent in the new ResurreXion event. Keep up the good work, Rob!
I followed the x-men for years, but I had a break at this time, and didn't really know magnetos backstory. It's a very good arc, although I'm surprised as now days this kind of arc could not be written. A sad statement on today's comic industry
I know Bova was addressed in a previous video.
I still think it's really cool that a sentient bovine midwife can be so easily be glossed over.
There's just so much awesomeness in these stories that it can't all be explained at once.
Making Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver not Magneto's children...uhg. The extents writers will go to to "mix things up" (ie cause needless drama) pisses me off sometimes. Wanda and Quicksilver being Magneto's children is one of the most widely known relationships by even casual fans of Marvel. Taking that away is just stupid.
Then again I dislike a LOT of what they have done with Wanda. They made her too powerful and the whole "No more mutants" thing was just stupid both on a meta standpoint and for her even being that powerful.
Originally Scarlet witch and Quicksliver not Magneto children, they were later retcon so...
LarryBonson
Yes but it was a retcon a long time ago. It was also an extremely well known relationship at this point. Most importantly however, them being his children was a retcon that *added depth* to the story, not one that took anything away.
it's actually worse, they become not his children for the sole purpose of being in Avengers movies. and Quicksilver died right away. so ye, it's basically marvel executives's greed
+Александр Михайлов they would've been in AOU anyway. Marvel and Fox shared the rights before the retcon.
All of which will be rectified if and when Marvel gets the film rights to X-Men back.
I think Magneto is an Anti Villain rather than a Anti Hero or just plain Villain.
I can relate to him because how he relates to.others and the world around him changes as things change around him, and as his understanding changes. It's real cause it's not always better for everyone else, but he keeps it a lot more honest than when he was playing just plain mega-megalomaniac.
I swear, they'll let Franklin stay OP, but Magneto can't be OP for more than a couple of issues. Going from Prof. X saying that his powers were limitless to barely lifting a truck....
i agree he's nowhere near what he used to be i was reading uncanny x-men vol 4 and he basically exhausted himself just by raising his shields to stop bullets
They're gonna make people lose interest in his character completely.
Yeah he's too much of a jobber now
He’s got one of the best origin stories and has always been one of my favorite characters in all of comics.
I would call Magneto an Anti Hero more than a Villain.
Why did you skip over the time when Magneto was hunting Nazi war criminals? It was, at least, partially significant because he was betrayed by his handlers when he found out that they were willing to completely look the other way for some Nazis as long as they could be of some use to the government. Making Magneto realize that the humans had no problem using him as a tool, then double crossing him, and trying to kill him when he had outlived his usefulness.
What comic/series is this storyline (if you’re still around lol) ? It sounds great!
@@tobysinbad Magneto #0 "I, Magneto"
If Professor X and the X men didn't come together, I probably would have joined Magneto if I were a mutant
I have joined Magneto. ;-)
As always, you've given clarity to the sometimes convoluted storylines. I absolutely love Magneto! When I was a kid I always emulated him!
great video! magneto has always been my favorite villian and always will be... and despite that, I learned so much about him. thanks man. keep making these videos!
"what I want to do here is have a conversation about Magneto"
more mornings should start this way
Wow Rob!!! This is by far my favorite video you've done!! I learned a ton I never knew about Magneto Thank you!
When I was a kid, it was Magnetos' story that helped me understand why everyone liked the X-Men comics so much. We can all relate to discrimination on some level. Magneto is the ultimate abused child!
Magneto is the child they regret abusing
Magneto is the most tragic villain in all of comics
Hmm, maybe, then again we have Doctor Doom who had a very sad and fucked up childhood and later when he became an adult his life became a total tragedy. Doom is Marvel's best villain hands down, and perhaps even the most tragic one considering that with his incredible intellect he could do so much good for the world if he wanted to. But Magneto is definitely my favorite Anti-hero.
How about Mr. Freeze?
Byronic hero would probably fit best.
It's important to remember that roles like "antagonist" do not necessarily represent morality.
Julian Thorn nah magneto had it way way worse... not just losing his parents but half of his daughters, his wife and even his ppl... ohh and not to mention they didnt just get killed, they got brutally tortured in front of him😭 as a kid, and loses his friends as well in the holocaust
@@ravensnation7391 what do u mean by ''half'' his daughters and "his people"?
Magneto is a beast! I love him on the X-Men! It's like having Sabretooth & Juggernaut on the team!
magneto in my honest opinion is the second greatest villians on comic books he's got a compelling story and you almost want him to win in some of his more sane moments but that's why he's second to me because I like a villian that I legitimately dislike or feel a strong sense of distaste for
Bane, I mean come on, like after that Bruce triangle shit.
Always loved Magneto & great video! He needs to not only be at his height but even beyond his previous abilities after the Magneto War in the late 90s!
this was amazing, Rob, nice job! Must have taken awhile to put this video together. keep up the good work.
4:53
Out of fear, that Magneto's rage and hatred for Mutant kind would taint their child.
Don't you mean "human kind"
6:14
His efforts however, were stopped by Magneto's first generation of X-men...
Aren't they Xavier's Generation of X-men?
Sorry, if I'm just wrong. The wording just seemed off to me.
Magneto is my favorite Marvel Character. Always has been. Thanks for the informative video!
This was a great video, and just off point you are the only person I know that uses music that is not overriding the commentary. Nicely done. Thanks again.
Vallin Vallentine I wish i could find the song he uses
Ive been waiting so long for this video, thank you
Maybe this is me reading too much into the movies rather than the comics but I think its interesting that Magneto seems to use a lot of language referring to mutants as a "race" whereas I think Professor X has a slightly more objective or scientific view of mutants as a "species".
In the real world genetic testing has shown that there is actually more genetic diversity (difference) *within* a race than between races - meaning that the "human race" is just that, a single species rather than a collection of related species or subspecies. We are all one species that has been arbitrarily (and incorrectly) categorized into races.
However in the Marvel Universe mutants *are* a genetically distinct subspecies of humanity, verified by decades (if not centuries thanks to Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister) of proven scientific study.
Culturally and socially this "species" divide plays out in the comics in similar ways to issues of race and sexuality in the real world but the situation is fundamentally different on a basic level. Or is it? After all, in *both* worlds the Nazis still tried to exterminate the Jews during WWII based on an arbitrary definition of "race". Would the level of bigotry or moral panic really be all that different if there were objective proof? Our racists in the real world seem to be working fine without any.
Bringing it back to Magneto and Professor X though, thanks to genetics "race" doesn't really mean what it used to mean fifty years ago. I wonder how that difference might inform on these characters and affect their motivations (particularly Magneto) as time goes on.
Scientifically speaking, most evolutionary anthropologists consider "race" and "species" to be analogues. The term "ethnicity" is the closest most anthropologists will come to any separation of humanity. The majority of the differences between humans are cultural, and not biological.
In Marvel's reality, Mutants are not just a different species, but the NEXT step of humanity, evolutionarily speaking. This is where Xavier and Magneto's ideals differ. Charles believes that sapien and superior can co-exist as more humans (inevitably?) become mutants, whereas Eric believes that superior should simply replace sapien.
It's unfortunate that the convoluted nature of the industry has taken precedence over good storytelling. So many retcons, so many unnecessary side stories, so much lost history. Did any really want a 2nd Civil War, a 2nd Secret Wars, a New "All-New, All-Different" anything?
Sorry, I've just become really disillusioned with the current state of Marvel. They had such a great run in the early 2000's, and then shot it all to hell...
Magneto took their argument and turned it upside down... If Nazis are the ultimate man, then why are they so brutal and sickening? It begs the question, what is civilization and what is humanity? Magneto is hands down the best character because he's the intersection of so many different themes.
It also begs the question, would magneto think his Jewish heritage and blood make him superior? Or does he truly believe his genetics as a mutant make him superior? Humans act the same way, humans don't respect other animals because humans have placed themselves on the food chain at the top.... Magneto simply did the same thing.
@@Yvqi72 -- If memory serves, XMen: First Class has Magneto explicitly tell Shaw that he agrees with Shaw's ideology - Erik's hatred for Shaw is purely personal because Shaw ordered Erik's mother killed.
And the surprising part is that its not surprising - Erik was a little boy with superpowers growing up Nazi Germany. It would actually be weirder if he *didn't* grow up believing he was one of the ubermensch.
Rob this video was magnetic and magnificent !! I love Magneto and have some of the comics you mentioned. But you sir told me the whole story up to date just perfect. Muchas gracias.
Bald Magneto is not a good look...
not hot son,
I agree he looks to much like Xavier.
Yeah! He needs that iconic silver mane.
Love all your videos Rob. Keep up the great work!
Excellent video man. Learned more about Magneto than I knew existed before now. Thanks for the upload!
love magneto. ultimate magneto... not so much.
He's like the Malcolm X of mutants.
by far one of my favorite characters. I love his history and character growth.
Great video, Rob. That helped me learn a few new things about Magneto.
Great video !!its really hard to keep continuity with over 50 years of content. keep up the good work
Amazing video! Had been waiting for a Magneto video for a while thank you very much.
Great video, I've really enjoyed following and watching you videos for over a year now!!!
Thanks for sharing this, truly excellent content!
Very well written and researched video.
Malcom X did not advocate for preemptive violence.
He advocated that Black citizens should defend themselves in the face of danger and threats, as ANY group of people would, especially white people, which is their go-to provocation-excuse.
But because he was Black somehow he saying, what we teach our kids "Don't start fights, but be the one to finish them" somehow was wrong.
Further more, Magneto didn't look to Humans as the Nazis did to Jews.
He looked to the AMerican Government as the new home to Nazi type personalities and would in time engage the same tactics, only this time, it was against Mutants, and not Jewish migrants.
And Magneto was right when considering the black ops programs as well as Sentinels.
Real life references = Operation Paper Clip.
Other references to such dynamics, within comics = Ozymandias, the Watchmen.
I don't consider Magneto a villain, when taking in his overall characters across time.
Some writers wrote him as such.
But his evolution is on par with Piccilo from Dragon Ball, even though people see him closer to Darth Vader.
PREACH!
P.D. S You didn't mention the mutant supremacy and black supremacy parallels.
Y2JLionHeart Still not championed by Malcolm X. That was NOI and Black Panthers (the latter not so much though).
Malcolm X didn't agree with that when he was with the NOI?
Y2JLionHeart Probably. I still don't buy Stan's BS about basing Xavier and Magneto off of MLK and Malcolm X, though. Revisionist history whenever it suits them.
Awesome! I've been a fan for awhile, and vids like this are why!
I don't want to get on the new wave of Stan Lee hating that has been going on in recent years. He's a great creator and helped bring comics to an art form rather than just a time waster. But I don't feel enough good things can be said about what Chris Claremont did for the character of Magneto. He's the man that took him from being a pretty typical villain and made him the deep character that people came to perhaps not love, but at least understand.
ive always loved the xmen and magneto was and still is one of my favorites marvel characters. I also love your videos. thanks!
If you do a Magneto video, you need an Ultimatum Magneto video. His casual powers were insane. Flipped the poles like they were nothing, dropped Thors hammer...
Love Magno. He is in contention for my fav superhero.
Time is going to be a *serious* problem for Magneto. I wonder how they are going to explain his backstory 30 years from now. Maybe they will redo some of the canon by having fall in a block of ice during WW2.
If Magneto was the first person to find the ship that gave Apoc his powers, he could fly to Mars and restart it's magnetic field to turn the planet back into a habitable world that the mutants could live on desperately away from humans
Great video, appreciate you sharing it!
I go back and forth between whether Dr. Doom or Magneto is the best Marvel villain. Though you can make the argument that Magneto is not a true villain.
it is very very close call!
it is very very close call!
Thanks for the great video! Love these!
Thanks a ton, this was super helpful!
This feels like more than a fight to give mutants their place in the world, but also a battle against the status quo and companies.
Magneto is the father of quicksilver and scarlet witch. F marvel trying to undue continuity.
PREACH!
Roy Harrigan Amen.
Roy Harrigan Let's take up an offering for this fine gentleman giving us the unadulterated truth this morning.
Roy Harrigan 'Undo' not 'undue'.
crisode1 I hate fucking retards that don’t know basic English. Understandable if they don’t speak English, other than that, no excuse for being genuinely disabled.
Robb thanks so much for this. I took a break around House of M and have been lost. I'm going to use this to read from Marvel Unlimited
Great video!! Thanks Rob
my favorite Marvel character ever, thanks Rob!
You probably won't see this Rob but Thank you for this! It's like the good old days of 20+ mins of knowledge ;D
Keep up the fantastic work!
Love & Peace
I remember seeing this video last year? love the show Rob!!
Fantastic vid!!! Thanks a lot!
Magz is the reason I read comics! Outstanding video! You captured everything!
One of my favorite Marvel characters. This video feels past overdue!
I love your videos Rob.
Wonderful, keep up the good work
Excellent, as always.
Jam packed information. Nice.
Great show guys, thank you
WOW i wasn’t prepared for THIS! my lord. what an amazing background this character holds
One of my favorite villians! This was a great post.
Great vid!
very helpful, worth the watch
I love your taste in music. I wish I had like a master list of all of the music you use in your videos. If I can't get that, can somebody tell me what's the song in the background of this video?
i loved this video. extremely entertaining and informative.
What is the song in the background at 19:12.
Really nice sax melody.
Also bloody great videos. I listen to them while I work.
Yes finally!!!! Nothing short of flawless.
wow, great video. thanks so much
Another Great Vid! Would love to see one on X-factor and Layla Miller
Awesome piece, Rob
Great video