Love the QR and Barry is the best man to do it! Great choice! I'm thinking of switching from my DD2 to a SC2 Pro and I think I'll go with your QR System in the future. Is SimLabs Xero-Play actually yours and you get a part of the money too? Because I always want to support the guys who did it first apart from if it is a collab then I'll go for availability anyway :)
We are lucky to have HRS here in Australia Barry, sim hardware of any real high quality is rare in Australia, just a couple of serious contenders and luckily HRS is a very approachable and helpful place too even before you buy, great quality products.
Barry, can we please get a close up of your beautiful hair? It was difficult to have a look at it with the quick release in the way. PLEASE SOMEBODY MAKE AN IN DEPTH REVIEW OF BARRY’s HAIR - THE BEST LOOKING IN TGE SIM COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!11111111111!!!!!!!!111
$250 sure isn't cheap for a quick release, but at least it looks like it's worth about that much, too. Thanks for the brilliantly in-depth and honest review, Barry! Legendary as always =)
Barry. Do you happen to have a list of links or names of your favorite or most used tools? Things like hexagonal drivers, shore durometer and other things you commonly use in videos?
3:58 "Kind of a triangle coming to a point but then it's flat right here" Trapezium. The word you're looking for is trapezium, Barry! Solid review, as always. Is the nylon pushy-uppy-bit the only part that actually pressures the shaft, or does the bottom part of the trapezium on the wheel side clamp on as well?
I don't think so. That nylon bit is very hard, may be something like Derlin. Adjusting that piece up or down determines the clamping pressure. And I don't see any marking on the plate it is attached to. Or, the bottom of the insert piece.
Hi Barry, Is the 50.80mm wheel side configured so you can install a 3 hole steering wheel drilled where there's two holes at the top and one at the bottom? It looks like you can only install a wheel drilled where there's one hole at the top and two at the bottom. I have two 50.8mm wheels at there both drilled differently eg as described. Cheers!
Thanks Barry ! Very useful to choose a Gucick release system. But when you said that you only recommand 2 Q-R, is that means that you didn't recommand B-G system ? I use it (because it s the closer from the Accuforce native system) since 2 years and i don't have problems. But the Xero-Play seems smarter. What do you think about B-G compared to Xero-Play ?
Those types of QR's have springs and bearings creating the clamping pressure. They work quite well. I am currnetly testing an NRG QR that looks exactly the same at the B-G one. Only thing is, those types of QR's eventually wear a to point that they will develop play. If they don't have it out of the box. I am of the opinion, that if I am going to invest in a QR system I want it to stay stiff as long as possible. IMO, of the QR's that I have tested to date the Q1R, and HRS systems have the best chance of achieving this.
@@simracinggarage3026 Ok, very clear, thanks. As i have already 4 wheels, i will not change to Xero-Play. Too expensive and i have absolutely no play now. But if it start to developp play, the Xer--Play will be the next ! Thanks again for the quick and clear answer !
Excellent review Barry noticed that you upgraded to the 54 motor did you get it from Leo Bodnar I got that 52 motor but now I want to upgrade to the 54 so did you get it from them or somewhere else thank you
Sim Racing Garage yeah I just emailed I I emailed them and they’re actually willing to take my motor back and send me a replacement which is the 54 appreciate the reply Barry and keep up the great work
Beautifully crafted, but as beautiful as it is expensive. I saw on the their website that it cost 250 dollars. I guess the most part comes from the female part. I was wondering if the male parts can be sold separately. If not, then switching to this QR system will be really really expensive.
tsorP nialA HRS is an Australian company so the price shown on the website is $250 AUD, which is about $170-180 USD. And yes, you can purchase the male (wheel side) components separately.
@@mrnismo75 Ahh my mistake. They did not post any info about location on the website. Also I did not see any listing of the male parts. Guess I have to contact them to buy separately.
tsorP nialA yeah the website is still being set up. Contact HRS through the website and Brett will give you a personalised quotation for whatever you are after
24:30 : The closing of the locking lever catches the paddle shifter. That's a massive flaw. You show this is on a relatively large wheel but I have a small formula wheel with the paddle shifters closer to the middle. Wouldn't fit at all I think.
There is a lot of free travel in the lever action before it actually starts to clamp onto the wheel side insert. So you can move it out of the way as you attach the wheel. I was using a "small" sized Ascher Racing button plate on the R20 Turn Racing rim. The shifters are very close to the center, but did not present any problems when attaching it. You can see that in the clip.
@@simracinggarage3026 The wheel used in your video is large enough to have the large 70mm wheel-side adapter on and even has space to the left and right of that. I imagine my shifters would be right to the edge of that 70mm adapter. (My wheel has a 50.8mm bolt pattern). Would it still fit?
Still there is a lot of free movement in the clamping lever. As it closes it moves further to the center away from any controls that my be on the wheel. There a few examples in the video. I did measure the diameter of the clamping section. It is 65mm when fullly closed. Same as the width of the Q1R clamping assembly. Of course only way to be sure would be to test it.
@@davegelink Just put a spacer on your wheel and mount the wheelside QR to that. Both of my PSE's use a 50.8 wheelside HRS QR, no issue with the locking lever catching the paddles.
There is more getting sent to a direct drive wheel ie suspension movement's etc in sims than irl to make up for the lack of sensations you get in the seat in a real car. This puts a lot more strain on real car quick releases and they wear out and get slop pretty quickly if you run high ffb.
Dame ah.. I have fanatec wheel mount just no wheel for, so i use g29 until then lol. I have a cheaper version now on the g29, just this looks better. Thanks for letting me no this is not worth it. Mine as well just save for a wheel:p
@@fetB a real quick release for a real car is very cheap to make and uses more metal. Its just aluminium put in a cnc machine then finished by blasting and anodised. I use an 8 quid one off eBay with zero play, solid as hell on a simucube direct drive. If it said NRG, D1 or Simoni racing on it, ssme exact design and amount of ball bearings as mine, 8, it would still be under 100 pound. If it said sparco, about 200 or more, no better in terms of play etc as its already zero play and sparco ones are the same ive seen reviews nothing special just a name so u pay for the name. If you can use a real quick release that will fit on a sim wheel, for less, why pay 249 for a fake one that does the same job, and you need to buy more than one half if swapping wheels. If an 8 quid one does the job who cares if it develops play after a while buy another. If AUD that makes it cheaper than 249 Us, and if made in australia it probably is more than 50 if not making many at a time your right. But if they order a thousand at a time it would probly be about 50. The type that use a bike quick release for midge motors also have zero play and ive seen those much cheaper aswell in aluminium or you can print one but printed ones break. I just think the sim racing racing market is being taken advantage of, with quick releases costing more than a damn wheel in some cases lol.
@@daverich2499 Well, i wouldnt because i diy'ed one and am set, but maybe you got lucky with yours, because i've heard it a few times that those cheap one either get or outright come with a lot of play, like this one too (btw also very typcial for fanatecs which is why they now added a rubber seal of sorts): th-cam.com/video/5aG8qSmhIaw/w-d-xo.html Granted 8 bucks is super cheap (cheapest i see is 12), but depending on the rate it's going bad, you end up spending the money anyway. However, that's what it comes down to. Idk how big HRS is, but i think to have read they are not and neither is this produced in mass (its not even available at the moment it seems), so it's probably not as cheap to build.
Give us a tour of your Garage there Barry because I'm always looking at the stuff you have on the walls lol
Thanks Barry for taking the time to review our system.
Enjoy!
Great review. Great product! I've been using one for 12 months now. Really is a piece of art. :)
Hi HRS,
Could you give me the weight of the red centre section and the base-side adapter please.
Hey, could you send me some products to review?
Love the QR and Barry is the best man to do it! Great choice!
I'm thinking of switching from my DD2 to a SC2 Pro and I think I'll go with your QR System in the future.
Is SimLabs Xero-Play actually yours and you get a part of the money too? Because I always want to support the guys who did it first apart from if it is a collab then I'll go for availability anyway :)
ur amazing- a 32 min review of a simple QR, and it is appreciated. thanks barry.
The cool hair, the crazy vans, the surfing cargo shorts... is Barry the best and coolest sim dad you never had?
I've had mine for a year, still yet to change the tension adjuster, sensational product that will not disappoint
Racey shoes ;)
This QR is by far the sexiest looking QR solution out there.
At this point sim racing hardware oftentimes is better than the stuff in real race cars.
"I'm takin' a little punishment here." :) Great work, as always.
We are lucky to have HRS here in Australia Barry, sim hardware of any real high quality is rare in Australia, just a couple of serious contenders and luckily HRS is a very approachable and helpful place too even before you buy, great quality products.
Barry, can we please get a close up of your beautiful hair? It was difficult to have a look at it with the quick release in the way.
PLEASE SOMEBODY MAKE AN IN DEPTH REVIEW OF BARRY’s HAIR - THE BEST LOOKING IN TGE SIM COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!11111111111!!!!!!!!111
Still a great video. Fed up with my cheap QR I am about to click purchase on this one. Thanks for the video.
Nice, look at this Fanatec, here you can learn something about a proper quick release for a direct drive wheel
$250 sure isn't cheap for a quick release, but at least it looks like it's worth about that much, too. Thanks for the brilliantly in-depth and honest review, Barry! Legendary as always =)
Bassalicious HRS is an Australian company so the price shown on the website is $250 AUD, which is about $170-180 USD.
@@mrnismo75 Oooh. Thanks for telling me, I missed that completely.
How are the wheel side units?
Damian Badalamenti the price includes the wheel side unit of your choice
Barry. Do you happen to have a list of links or names of your favorite or most used tools? Things like hexagonal drivers, shore durometer and other things you commonly use in videos?
No list. I'm afraid that it would be too long if I made one.
3:58 "Kind of a triangle coming to a point but then it's flat right here" Trapezium. The word you're looking for is trapezium, Barry!
Solid review, as always. Is the nylon pushy-uppy-bit the only part that actually pressures the shaft, or does the bottom part of the trapezium on the wheel side clamp on as well?
I don't think so. That nylon bit is very hard, may be something like Derlin. Adjusting that piece up or down determines the clamping pressure. And I don't see any marking on the plate it is attached to. Or, the bottom of the insert piece.
Nice review. I have one for a year and it’s spot on and hasn’t missed a beat.
What’s the wheel/button box combo your using?
Top review there the only thing i'd like to add is i've never had to adjust mine at all and I have one of the first the entered the wild.
Yes, I did the adjustment segment to show how it's done. It was pre-adjusted out of the box.
i love how you talk the Q1R Problems right its no big deal or anything lol. :D its been a bad Quick Release since day one and noone told us the truth.
Hi Barry,
Is the 50.80mm wheel side configured so you can install a 3 hole steering wheel drilled where there's two holes at the top and one at the bottom? It looks like you can only install a wheel drilled where there's one hole at the top and two at the bottom. I have two 50.8mm wheels at there both drilled differently eg as described.
Cheers!
what kind of gloves are you using Barry? the red and black you wear in the driving part.
cheers from Italy :)
Pearl Izumi Pro Gel Vent Full Finger Gloves.
Thanks Barry !
Very useful to choose a Gucick release system.
But when you said that you only recommand 2 Q-R, is that means that you didn't recommand B-G system ? I use it (because it s the closer from the Accuforce native system) since 2 years and i don't have problems. But the Xero-Play seems smarter. What do you think about B-G compared to Xero-Play ?
Those types of QR's have springs and bearings creating the clamping pressure. They work quite well. I am currnetly testing an NRG QR that looks exactly the same at the B-G one. Only thing is, those types of QR's eventually wear a to point that they will develop play. If they don't have it out of the box. I am of the opinion, that if I am going to invest in a QR system I want it to stay stiff as long as possible. IMO, of the QR's that I have tested to date the Q1R, and HRS systems have the best chance of achieving this.
@@simracinggarage3026 Ok, very clear, thanks. As i have already 4 wheels, i will not change to Xero-Play. Too expensive and i have absolutely no play now. But if it start to developp play, the Xer--Play will be the next ! Thanks again for the quick and clear answer !
Hi Barry, I know you enjoy driving with this size, so do you have nice 300mm steering wheels you recommend ?
What hub is that , that you have contacted to the xero-play
Excellent review Barry noticed that you upgraded to the 54 motor did you get it from Leo Bodnar I got that 52 motor but now I want to upgrade to the 54 so did you get it from them or somewhere else thank you
I got mine from Bodnar.
Sim Racing Garage yeah I just emailed I I emailed them and they’re actually willing to take my motor back and send me a replacement which is the 54 appreciate the reply Barry and keep up the great work
Nice lightweight QR there Barry.
Did you take the weights of the red aluminium centre QR section and the base-side adapters too ?
Yes, the Xero's wheelbase assembly is much lighter that the Q1R's which has the stainless steel stack.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks Barry. I assumed it was. Did you record the actual gram weights though?
@@garyhutchins4481 watch the whole video Gary ;)
@@aperturescience2Only saw the weight of the wheel-side part.
@@simracinggarage3026 Rechecked the video but still couldn't see the weights of the red centre section or the base-side adapter ?
Wish there was a quick release for Thrustmaster wheel bases. Would buy that up in a hot second.
Beautifully crafted, but as beautiful as it is expensive. I saw on the their website that it cost 250 dollars. I guess the most part comes from the female part. I was wondering if the male parts can be sold separately. If not, then switching to this QR system will be really really expensive.
tsorP nialA HRS is an Australian company so the price shown on the website is $250 AUD, which is about $170-180 USD. And yes, you can purchase the male (wheel side) components separately.
@@mrnismo75 Ahh my mistake. They did not post any info about location on the website. Also I did not see any listing of the male parts. Guess I have to contact them to buy separately.
tsorP nialA yeah the website is still being set up. Contact HRS through the website and Brett will give you a personalised quotation for whatever you are after
female is ALWAYS expensive🤣
great shoes!
Let's get to it!
Those Vans are fire, Barry! :D
24:30 : The closing of the locking lever catches the paddle shifter. That's a massive flaw. You show this is on a relatively large wheel but I have a small formula wheel with the paddle shifters closer to the middle. Wouldn't fit at all I think.
There is a lot of free travel in the lever action before it actually starts to clamp onto the wheel side insert. So you can move it out of the way as you attach the wheel. I was using a "small" sized Ascher Racing button plate on the R20 Turn Racing rim. The shifters are very close to the center, but did not present any problems when attaching it. You can see that in the clip.
@@simracinggarage3026 The wheel used in your video is large enough to have the large 70mm wheel-side adapter on and even has space to the left and right of that. I imagine my shifters would be right to the edge of that 70mm adapter. (My wheel has a 50.8mm bolt pattern). Would it still fit?
Still there is a lot of free movement in the clamping lever. As it closes it moves further to the center away from any controls that my be on the wheel. There a few examples in the video. I did measure the diameter of the clamping section. It is 65mm when fullly closed. Same as the width of the Q1R clamping assembly. Of course only way to be sure would be to test it.
@@davegelink Just put a spacer on your wheel and mount the wheelside QR to that. Both of my PSE's use a 50.8 wheelside HRS QR, no issue with the locking lever catching the paddles.
@@MrMarlby Lol yes you buy a 250 dollar quick release in order to put more spacers and shit between it and make it even longer.
that offset, is that intentional or an oversight. I mean why not have the offset 70mm on the faceplate as well
How well does this compare to the SRC QR?
That tricep at 0:43 good Lord. Have you been going to the gym?
Somehow this system reminds me of the new Thrustmaster T818 QR 😄
23:25 : Why does it have to be offset like that? Why can't it be oriented upside up? It's annoying to put the wheel on at 2 o clock angle.
Why is it annoying? It keeps the cleat accessible from the top when switching wheels. I've had mine for nearly a year and they are brilliant.
Just a result of the design. It does not present any issues in use. But eveyone has their own preferences.
You can easily get 6 different positions by rotating the 70mm adapter on your wheel, to suit your own setup
Do you have the depth dimensions? (total stack height?)
Barry, are you going to review the Simucube 2 Ultimate?
Soon as I can get my hands on one.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thank you.
What direct drive base are you using in this video Barry ?
Sim Steering 2 with the 54G Kollmorgen.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thank you
What size are your monitors in this video?
Thanks.
27"
Thanks!
I've been wondering for a while why there is a market for sim qr systems in sim racing when there are so many real motorsport systems available?
There is more getting sent to a direct drive wheel ie suspension movement's etc in sims than irl to make up for the lack of sensations you get in the seat in a real car. This puts a lot more strain on real car quick releases and they wear out and get slop pretty quickly if you run high ffb.
How about HRS rims Barry they are quality !
Love to get one in the SRG if the opportunity arises.
what shifter is on this rig in video?
Frex H Pattern: th-cam.com/video/B0C2t_Ey4b0/w-d-xo.html
The Simuhack and Sim Racing Coach QR clamp is much cheaper but just as good.
Anyone know where to buy that usb coiled cable? Looking for a high quality one
www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/cables
The ones you see in this review are from Ascher Racing. There are other sources, but not the same thin coils that are on these cables.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thank you!
@@chillil321 Sweet, I'll check these out too, thanks!
Yeah.. This is the first comment 😁
Wonder if i could put this on my G29?
Dame ah.. I have fanatec wheel mount just no wheel for, so i use g29 until then lol. I have a cheaper version now on the g29, just this looks better. Thanks for letting me no this is not worth it. Mine as well just save for a wheel:p
DPR1980 HRS is an Australian company so the price shown on the website is $250 AUD, which is about $170-180 USD
$50 to make? i doubt that
@@fetB a real quick release for a real car is very cheap to make and uses more metal. Its just aluminium put in a cnc machine then finished by blasting and anodised. I use an 8 quid one off eBay with zero play, solid as hell on a simucube direct drive. If it said NRG, D1 or Simoni racing on it, ssme exact design and amount of ball bearings as mine, 8, it would still be under 100 pound. If it said sparco, about 200 or more, no better in terms of play etc as its already zero play and sparco ones are the same ive seen reviews nothing special just a name so u pay for the name. If you can use a real quick release that will fit on a sim wheel, for less, why pay 249 for a fake one that does the same job, and you need to buy more than one half if swapping wheels. If an 8 quid one does the job who cares if it develops play after a while buy another. If AUD that makes it cheaper than 249 Us, and if made in australia it probably is more than 50 if not making many at a time your right. But if they order a thousand at a time it would probly be about 50. The type that use a bike quick release for midge motors also have zero play and ive seen those much cheaper aswell in aluminium or you can print one but printed ones break. I just think the sim racing racing market is being taken advantage of, with quick releases costing more than a damn wheel in some cases lol.
@@daverich2499 Well, i wouldnt because i diy'ed one and am set, but maybe you got lucky with yours, because i've heard it a few times that those cheap one either get or outright come with a lot of play, like this one too (btw also very typcial for fanatecs which is why they now added a rubber seal of sorts):
th-cam.com/video/5aG8qSmhIaw/w-d-xo.html
Granted 8 bucks is super cheap (cheapest i see is 12), but depending on the rate it's going bad, you end up spending the money anyway.
However, that's what it comes down to. Idk how big HRS is, but i think to have read they are not and neither is this produced in mass (its not even available at the moment it seems), so it's probably not as cheap to build.