I started collecting 4 yrs ago and I've never known such a toxic community when the tagline for the show we all love is "till all are one". Also as you said about the fans never being happy. It makes me sad it really does, even the main thread in the earth wars game is full of really toxic ppl. I forgot one am looking forward to getting devvy (hoping I can get them all)
I agree that they downsized Devestater so that the constructions themselves can fit in scale with Megatron. Except G1 is inconsistent in scale, maybe that's why they're complaining about the size. The animators and toymakers seem to be on drugs have of the time
I dont prefer cartoon accuracy. I prefer vehicle scale and vehicle realism. I was holding out on choosing a devastator because this guy was coming out. But now that I've seen the scale and green caterpillars, I will be choosing the jinbao Gravity Builder instead. It's the same price for a bigger and more detailed figure.
I don't believe in mass shifting. Mass shifting is nonsense and poor writing and poor animation. Soundwave should be tiny. Starscream should be a very small alien jet. Megatron should be a tank. Shockwave should be a spaceship. They're robots. They don't need to be to human scale. They don't need to be the same height as each other. Menasor and devastator are the same height because the game devs were lazy. I haven't played the game and don't care about the game. I like having scale alt modes, and the ability to see what size their robots really would turn out to be. I don't like screen accuracy. I prefer character authenticity. I love character redesigns which maintain the spirit and essence of a character, while delivering realism and dexterity for functionality. I do hope they make a studio series gamer edition FOC bruticus. I wouldn't care what height any of them are because they are cybertronian but bigger would be preferred. Maybe a medium between menasor and devastator
The only problem with combiners is they need to sell them all together instead of individually so you are guaranteed to be able to get the whole set and not have to worry about some of them selling out after you get 3 of them
Honestly, I'm just glad we are getting a new one why do people always have to throw a fit about something. I mean if you don't like it, I get it it's not for everyone but don't go wailing about how bad it is.
2:36 while that’s true, people forget that the g1 vehicles themselves are pretty small models. Like they’re more like backyard equipment projects, Longhaul for example can drive on roads no problem compared to his more popular giant Tonka machine. Also chubby Bonecrusher looks great but the arms are just horribly tiny. They could’ve had the same length plus a folding hand for that extra reach.
I'm not complaining! I pre-ordered Bonecrusher and Scrapper! I'm ecstatic that my patience was rewarded for passing on the CW Devestator set that I saw in a local toy store!
Something I quickly learned when joining the Transformers community is that no matter what, they are never going to be happy. One day they'll cry about the fact that Optimus Prime in the WfC Trilogy Netflix series wasn't voiced by Peter Cullen, the next they say that the very same Peter Cullen sounded bad in Rise of the Beasts and that he should retire. They will always cry and whine and complain about something no matter what, always something that will displease them, even about thing they didn't get their hands on yet (and sometime even realise after getting it that it's actually fine and their complains unjustified). What can we do against that? Nothing, ignore them, enjoy what you enjoy and make your own decisions based on your own mindset
I only had one constructicon as a kid so now I can actually get a full collection and build devestator. People forget it's gotta be affordable and playable. It'll probably be really sturdy.
My problem has nothing to do with any of that. Mine is I already have four Devastators, including the titan and the G2 version of yours. I think I have Devastator fatigue. Still got to get Scrapper at any rate. My friends are so happy this new one is coming out they are already making room for it.
He looks good i just don't like the hallow parts in bot mode . If you want to get down to the nitty griddy devistator should be close to omega supreme and should be able to hold sludge in his hands lol. Ofcourse I'm still getting it .
Each line always has its pros and cons, current lines are mostly wins over losses. cw dev was a beast, but lessons have been learned. Honestly im glad to see he is a bit smaller, new wave of engineering. Once in hand we will truly see how it will compare. Both devastor and bruticus are high on the wanted list.
My only complaint about SS86 Devastator, they shouldn't have made him SS86 because he looks hardly like him in the movie and cartoon. To me Legacy United Devastator would have been a better line name. For me the SS86 is from the movie, Hasbro avoided the blockish original look of Devastator. I don't want to hear ppl saying that it couldn't be done because of the set price point and size class bots being used. I'm sorry to say but Hasbro continues to skip little simple details for G1 Transformers they release! Frankly, I think it is embarrassing for some 3rd party makers like Newage/Magic Square to give a far better effort to have cartoon/movie accuracy than Hasbro itself! Simple put there is a lack of creativity on Hasbro's part.
Thing is... Hot Rod was good. Dinobots were pretty good. I really don't know how much I feel all the other 86 characters really look EXACTLY like the movie. In fact you could likely say the same for every SS toy outside 86. They always need to take some liberties. Does it look more like the 86 movie than any other Devastator we have had? We need to have some level of reasonability.
I own the original combiner wars devastator, and it's crazy how similar the new one is to the old one from what we can see, except on the new one the individual figures are better articulated and have more thought put into them then the old ones (although this is likely because the figures are being sold separately, unlike the original).
One thing i want to add is general quality of both of them. The Combiner Wars was alright but seeing this new SS version is very good, especially knowing the modern plastics that are used, especially for figures like the 86 line and Legacy line are better in quality than the much more thin and hollow plastics of Prime Wars era
Justifying the size by saying that he's the same height as Menasor, is ignoring the fact that Menasor was the wrong height to begin with. If Menasor was released to be as tall as the dinobots, there would probably be defenders of that too.
I still feel paying for the Unite Warriors Devastator was worth it way back when, but let’s be honest, he’s unstable AF. Now that Hasbro has had nearly of decade of designing modern combiners under its belt I’m looking forward to a new version of the Constructicons
The only 2 issues I had with combiner wars Devastator was the toothick width Scavenger arm in combiner mode and the lack of elbows of scrapper. If they fix the arm with of scavenger in this version Id be super satisfied.
A friend in an FB group sold me his for a 100 about few years ago in midst of CW, and it's been my go-to Dev since due to it sizing well with the other Combiners.
I want the 86 constructicons so I can keep them in robot mode, the two shown look so good. My combiner wars version will remain as Devastator as I invested in the upgrades
If vehicles were actually all to scale, Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus would have to look up to Starcream, and Blaster and Soundwave would be a few millimeters big.
Hoping we get a new Predaking in the same scale as these upcoming cominbers. Proportions seemed a little odd, like the thin waist, since they incorporated all the extra combiner bits into the bots themselves.
I can’t understand the complaints for this. They finally give us a beyond solid looking figure, sure he isn’t the largest Devastator, but this is the best thing that’s happened to combiner figures since they brought them back big time in legacy
1:00 I like OS'd bots too, but being transparent about cost and timing does not mean they're not overpriced. Also, SS86 is supposed to be a line keyed in on bringing accurate TFs to the '86 movie, so bringing up the Devastation game is near irrelevant. Size comparisons should be with the SS86 dinobots that attacked him in that movie. 4:44 predaking as six animals?!?!? What are you talking about, the MMC Feral Rex/Nero Rex or their OS'd versions? Those had an extra bot that wasn't originally a part of the team.
1- I actually said the fact that a ratchet cost 15.00 per toy ( this one ) 2 ) when I brought up MENASOR and Dev as far as height , I was making the point that they have been the same size at least once in the 40 years I’ve known them .. people were saying he was always BIGGER .. Nope . Devestation . Thanks for the comment Keep being awesome
im excited for 86 DEVESTATOR i have both figuers up on preorder at the bbts . i dont care for ball joints never liked them but waiting to see how the figuer turns out befor i pass judgement
I personally wanted 15-17 inch combiners across the board... but cost wise, I think they made the best choices for consumer. Because that Combiner Wars Devestator is nowhere near as complex as this new one will be. People were never going to pay the cost required for larger combiners at retail.
For me the G1 Accuracy is putting me off, but I have faith in this figure being pretty good. Combiner Wars Superion is the best scale for combiners across the board. Now while I'm hunting for TFC Toys Hercules *_(as he's my favorite G1-Style Devastator figure overall and in design)_* I wouldn't be disappointed if I got SS86. Now I just need a SSGE Devastation Menasor to exist. Basically do Combiner Wars 2.0, with a new Menasor figure that isn't a Skeleton, add Blackjack and I'll be sold.
I already pre ordered bonecrusher and scrapper and I'm happy I did it because Amazon marketed bonecrusher at 24.99 and big bad toy store has scrapper going for 34.99 and that makes me unbelievably happy because so far my wish for them to be priced at a reasonable price range is so far coming true
My only complaint is now I'm going to have a combiner wars devastator that I need to store! Got all the upgrades and it looks great but the 86 one looks DOPE
We TF fans can be very hard to please. Product designers are limited by the dimensions of standard store shelves. This is part of the reason construction vehicles in the TF world are the same size as stunt cars.
Im Thankful! I’ve always wanted to get a cartoon version of Devastator, while I do have the studio series one it’s just not my type of combiner. And seeing the first pictures of this new cartoon version of him is really exciting me 😊 so I’m happy he’s being made.
It’s great for people who want it. Yes it should match the size roughly the current Menasaur all the combiners in this line should be roughly the same size for consistency. What it should not do is look like core class figures, and shouldn’t have hollow bits. It should look significantly better than the prior version. I bought the unite warriors version of combiner wars devastator which I chose/ paid more for the better paint apps, included individual guns, switchable visor/eyes, and bigger size intending to display it as my Devastator. It does not look as great in individual bot mode and is decent in vehicle mode. I do not need the new Devastator for combined mode, would love to play around with the individual figures in bot and vehicle mode, but do not see them as looking good enough to spend the money. It is great that the are so many options out there from Legends to masterpiece to ko undersized and oversized.
i mean im not gonna complain about scale or anything im just gonna say i dont like it. i think as a toy it looks rather low quality for the price, especially when the third party options available are only slightly more expensive but infinitely better to me. overall just doesn't suit my tastes. do love the communication we are seeing around the new toys though, they're doing great on that front. hell im like the only person that liked the all cardboard packaging but i know im in the minority and im glad they're being more responsive on most stuff
The combined mode looks perfect. Other than being overpriced, Scrapper looks great in all 3 modes. Bonecrusher just seems like a decent deluxe as well. People are complaining about the wrong things. “Oh there’s holes, oh there’s ball joints, the combined mode has one wrong detail.” If you want to complain, how about 2 Deluxe figures with a dozen partsforming pieces being sold for $135 CAD! This isn’t really an affordable set, and is gonna end up costing about $30+ more than the Menasor from Legacy, a figure which I feel hit the sweet spot for Combiner pricing.
The original CW Devastator was $150 in 2015. After inflation, that puts it at $200 in 2024 money. SS86 is gonna be $210 after all is said and done, and the individual bots look so much better. And the combiner will fit in the collection better. I see no downside here.
It looks so much better than the CW version. One that that put me off of that one was the bright fluro paint job. Mixmaster too, with that horrendous vehicle mode, and not having the individual units sold separately. Not everyone can afford the Titan price range. But What I do want to see one day are screen accurate versions of the other G1 combiners, that could do full "Scramble City", mix up the limbs, swap them around, with the Seacons too. That would be amazing.
my only concern is how dinky the right bicep of devastator might be, this is why i love my gravity builder big D so much.. sure hes stylized but hes still devastator... this one.. looks great, but i have my own little worries, of course im gonna complete him, cause i do that.. im hoping he isnt a huge flop like Raiden was.
Negative voices are far louder than positive voices. I cannot wait to finish getting these guys. I never had a complete devastator of any form, except for a little guy I got *recently* from Ali E, and that one is pretty cool, but it is small. Hasbro even screwed up my Tonka version and sent me some GD GIJoe crap in it's place because they ran out in spite of my pre-order...they did eventually refund me, though. I am super excited for this Devastator. I can't tell you how excited I am. I pre-ordered the first two the second they were posted.
@@THE14THPRIME229 This is the one I got...love it...and was $11 to my door. lol th-cam.com/video/G4V9dr5EoKE/w-d-xo.html (I think that is it anyway -- and mine does peg together at the chest)
I like the look of this new Devastator. I believe it's not tall enough. Watching the 86 movie, Slag charges him and comes up to Devastator's knee. Hasbro scaled this Devastator to be similar in size to Menosar because they will repackage it for the Generations line. Collectors have a right to be disappointed/enthusiastic, after all it's their decision to buy or not.
I just think Devastator should be larger being 6 figures instead of 5 plus as you said they're construction vehicles. I'd be okay if he was only be 3" taller just to give him a slightly taller stance but not breaking combiner heights.
I wish they would've shown some articulation in the video, he looks like a big brick just standing there. I'm sure he'll be great and pose great though. My gripe is that the treads are the same color as the toy, it may be cartoon accurate to the bots but doesn't look as good when comparing to nbk devi.
Throwing shade at Reactivate 😆 But yeah, 86 Devastator looks great so far and he's not even available yet! Do I already have Jinbao Devastator? Yeah, but I'll still get this guy too!
I8" Devastator (official or OS KO) vs Hasbro Omega Supream and 86" Dinobots is a nice re-enactment. Omega Supream in BASE Mode, i can sit it next to Hasbro Metroplex & Hasbro Ark.
Honestly 86 Devastator looks great and really solid. It’s crazy how many complaints there are before they’re in hand and fully revealed. And why wouldn’t you display him as a giant robot?? Don’t forget what we saw could still change. Just buy third party if you don’t like it. Simple. I have waited 40 years for this combiner, so I’m all in.
i only have a couple nitpicks with how the 86 devastator looks. one is, the leges seem to be off centred. like the thighs are just lined up to far to one side each. second, the chest crest is hanging a bit to low for my taste, allowing to unsightly gaps to be seen clearly. is the crest and legs were retooled just slightly so they can slide into a better position, no complaints with the look at all.
The community gets worse every few years. I just saw what was probably the best Transformers movie in the theater since the 86 animated movie, and yet, virtually no one came out to support it because it either wasn't G1, wasn't live-action, or because Chris Hemsworth didn't sound nearly as great as Peter Cullen.
@DennisRMrradio9 I have never had any problems with them, especially when it comes to buying Hasbro Transformers, and I have been buying from them since 2018. I couldn't tell you about how they deal with other brands, plus their customers' services have been awesome the two times I have called them. I bought Snapdragon from them, and the figure had a little screw broken, and they replaced it immediately, and they let me keep the broken one too, and I also bought a DNA upgrade kit for POTP Optimus Primal and the larger wings that the kit brought to replace the smaller ones the figure came with were missing they gave me a refund immediately and they let me keep the upgrade kit but like I said before been buying from them close to 7 years now and no problems
Can’t believe people think that siege is supposed to be g1, it’s inspired but it ain’t accurate and Omega in that show was huge, that’s why the ss86 line is there for the g1 accuracy but for the movie
@ exactly, you can see in the devastation game that the vehicles dwarf Optimus, like looking at Mixmaster in combine mode you can see that the cab is as big or larger than Optimus in both mode
@ anyways, I’ve been waiting for this character for the line ever since after my hesitation and then enjoyment of the line and wanted to have another combiner which we rarely get in the mainline so it’s great that this and other combiners are coming
I think it looks amazing. Super excited for this Devastator. So I would say the people who aren't complaining are just buying them. I personally always thought CW Devastator was too big. The scales and sizes of things in G1 were so all over the place. I for one can't wait.
As much as I did want the Titans Return Devastator, I'm not mad with this one because he will scale well with my BW Menasor which is Legends Scale. I do wish they made Bonecrusher a little better because even Magic Squares Bonecrusher doesn't look like the mech from Aliens, his chest should have been smaller and his legs longer, but I don't care because he will sit in his combiner mode forever✊🏿
@@THE14THPRIME229It's all about space, I have a 3rd party Devastator and 3rd party Bruticus, but I have no need to break them down mainly because of space. I forgot about my 3rd party Predaking🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂but space is not a luxury I have so all my combiners will stay together. I just copped a Pangu Omega Supreme and I hope he scales close to the new Devy✊🏽
I'm just glad they did a 86 devastator to a scale of menasor . No complaints here. I suppose they wanna scale it correctly with the mainline 86 which is what i am currently collecting. So big yay to me..hehe Really hoping they do bruticus next fingers cross and other combiners too.. There is a chug size devastator same scale as menasor from maketoys btw. There are so many options out there in scale as small as legends and as big as MP. 3rd party company makes loads of them & some are really good. It all boils down to the preference of the collector. 😊
I do wish the upper arms didn't split at the treads and the top of the vehicle is where it hinges just like the CW. That's why I skipped on that one. It's going to make the upper arms too skinny and a really wide chest. I was hoping the whole vehicle moved with the treads too like the show. I'm passing and sticking with my Jinbao with the Like Toys upgrade kit. I'm looking forward to Bruticus and Superion cuz I don't have a representation of those Combiners
I honestly would have preferred Devastator to be not that big anyways because he’s just not the strongest combiner. Combiners like predaking or abominus deserve to be bigger
I have thought about this a great deal. And I have come to A decision as to where I stand on the subject. First off, I believe combiners should be just smaller than Titans meaning combiner Wars Devastator should be the right scale. The only problem with that is the figures individually are always too big. So the simple fact is Hasbro or anyone can't make combiners big enough and keep the figures in scale as well. So all I would ask from Hasbro is consistency and that seems to be what they're providing now. All combiners are going to be about twice the size of a leader class ie Optimus Prime Megatron so on. And to be honest, I can get behind that decision due to the fact that the only figure that really makes that out of scale is Omega Supreme and even with him there are options out there if you want something to scale with him. So I think Hasbro have done the right thing in the end.
I have the knock off and i have the cw devastator and i still plan on getting the 86 and am looking forward to it. Im hoping he has better joints and better posabilty than cw.
This will be my first constructicons and devastator, so im excited. I got my pre-order for at least for scrapper on bbts ready. I think he looks great even though i probably will keep the in normal robot more but who knows
@@THE14THPRIME229 Honestly so real. I think devastator is cool and all but idk something about their normal robot modes I like more. We still havent even see the rest of them yet and people are complaining about devastator. Its just annoying honestly
I didn’t know there were complaints, I was just happy to finally get a mainline devastator, plus if people are really complaining, there’s probably gonna be an upgrade kit down the line Personally I like the devastator we got, and as long as he’s stable and fun to play with, I’m satisfied I’m just happy we finally got an update on one of , if not the, most iconic combiner
I think devastator is perfect height. He's a little bit taller than menasor. And I'm hoping that he's strong enough to be put together and taken apart and transforming them all. Cuz maybe just maybe we can make him lift sludge.
That PoP Predaking was ass imo. I never got it and went with TFC Ares instead. I didn't like how the midsection was a separate piece. But I'll be swapping out my TFC Hercules for this SS86 Devastator.
I didn’t even realize people were complaining about him. Well my stance on the subject. I think it looks good so far and haven’t seen anything that warrants any complaints
He's everything Menasor should have been . Honestly wish Me asor had bigger legs and a little taller . And of course, better leg cars. The arms were fine
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86 devastator’s fuckin BADass!!! The colors are dead on ballz correct, looks fuckin solid too
Erm actually Scavenger’s treads are the wrong color. You are so ignorant I’m gonna report you to the FBS (Federal Bureau of Scavenger).
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That's a digibash, not the actual true colors
@@antiseize11 But we've the colors of the toys.
@@eudacye709 Hasbro said that they would like to turn up the green color on them. Those colors shown were just mock ups, and are not the final colors.
They forget that in the g1 cartoon, devastator did have holes through his chest/torso.
I started collecting 4 yrs ago and I've never known such a toxic community when the tagline for the show we all love is "till all are one". Also as you said about the fans never being happy. It makes me sad it really does, even the main thread in the earth wars game is full of really toxic ppl. I forgot one am looking forward to getting devvy (hoping I can get them all)
I don't have a Devastator in my collection. So definitely looking forward to the SS86 version.
Just be happy people !!
Yea, thas what im sayin
I agree that they downsized Devestater so that the constructions themselves can fit in scale with Megatron. Except G1 is inconsistent in scale, maybe that's why they're complaining about the size. The animators and toymakers seem to be on drugs have of the time
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I think the same
I dont prefer cartoon accuracy. I prefer vehicle scale and vehicle realism. I was holding out on choosing a devastator because this guy was coming out. But now that I've seen the scale and green caterpillars, I will be choosing the jinbao Gravity Builder instead. It's the same price for a bigger and more detailed figure.
I don't believe in mass shifting. Mass shifting is nonsense and poor writing and poor animation.
Soundwave should be tiny. Starscream should be a very small alien jet. Megatron should be a tank. Shockwave should be a spaceship. They're robots. They don't need to be to human scale. They don't need to be the same height as each other.
Menasor and devastator are the same height because the game devs were lazy. I haven't played the game and don't care about the game. I like having scale alt modes, and the ability to see what size their robots really would turn out to be.
I don't like screen accuracy. I prefer character authenticity. I love character redesigns which maintain the spirit and essence of a character, while delivering realism and dexterity for functionality.
I do hope they make a studio series gamer edition FOC bruticus. I wouldn't care what height any of them are because they are cybertronian but bigger would be preferred. Maybe a medium between menasor and devastator
The only problem with combiners is they need to sell them all together instead of individually so you are guaranteed to be able to get the whole set and not have to worry about some of them selling out after you get 3 of them
They said they wanted to remedy this after seeing things about how it was almost impossible for many to get breakdown
You're right, you can't please everyone.
I'm just glad this isn't a haslab thing, I can't even get that in Australia.
It’s hard enough getting any of the good transformers in my part of oz and if they go on sale all of a sudden it’s in store pick up only 😢
Honestly, I'm just glad we are getting a new one why do people always have to throw a fit about something. I mean if you don't like it, I get it it's not for everyone but don't go wailing about how bad it is.
2:36 while that’s true, people forget that the g1 vehicles themselves are pretty small models. Like they’re more like backyard equipment projects, Longhaul for example can drive on roads no problem compared to his more popular giant Tonka machine. Also chubby Bonecrusher looks great but the arms are just horribly tiny. They could’ve had the same length plus a folding hand for that extra reach.
I'm not complaining! I pre-ordered Bonecrusher and Scrapper! I'm ecstatic that my patience was rewarded for passing on the CW Devestator set that I saw in a local toy store!
Something I quickly learned when joining the Transformers community is that no matter what, they are never going to be happy. One day they'll cry about the fact that Optimus Prime in the WfC Trilogy Netflix series wasn't voiced by Peter Cullen, the next they say that the very same Peter Cullen sounded bad in Rise of the Beasts and that he should retire. They will always cry and whine and complain about something no matter what, always something that will displease them, even about thing they didn't get their hands on yet (and sometime even realise after getting it that it's actually fine and their complains unjustified). What can we do against that? Nothing, ignore them, enjoy what you enjoy and make your own decisions based on your own mindset
I only had one constructicon as a kid so now I can actually get a full collection and build devestator. People forget it's gotta be affordable and playable. It'll probably be really sturdy.
It’s supposed to be strong enough to hold a Dinobot…
My problem has nothing to do with any of that. Mine is I already have four Devastators, including the titan and the G2 version of yours. I think I have Devastator fatigue. Still got to get Scrapper at any rate. My friends are so happy this new one is coming out they are already making room for it.
Meee tooo!! I have the OG , OG in yellow (1984 )
Movie Version
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And my oversized .
He looks good i just don't like the hallow parts in bot mode . If you want to get down to the nitty griddy devistator should be close to omega supreme and should be able to hold sludge in his hands lol. Ofcourse I'm still getting it .
Each line always has its pros and cons, current lines are mostly wins over losses. cw dev was a beast, but lessons have been learned. Honestly im glad to see he is a bit smaller, new wave of engineering. Once in hand we will truly see how it will compare. Both devastor and bruticus are high on the wanted list.
My only complaint about SS86 Devastator, they shouldn't have made him SS86 because he looks hardly like him in the movie and cartoon. To me Legacy United Devastator would have been a better line name. For me the SS86 is from the movie, Hasbro avoided the blockish original look of Devastator. I don't want to hear ppl saying that it couldn't be done because of the set price point and size class bots being used. I'm sorry to say but Hasbro continues to skip little simple details for G1 Transformers they release! Frankly, I think it is embarrassing for some 3rd party makers like Newage/Magic Square to give a far better effort to have cartoon/movie accuracy than Hasbro itself! Simple put there is a lack of creativity on Hasbro's part.
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Thing is... Hot Rod was good. Dinobots were pretty good. I really don't know how much I feel all the other 86 characters really look EXACTLY like the movie. In fact you could likely say the same for every SS toy outside 86. They always need to take some liberties. Does it look more like the 86 movie than any other Devastator we have had? We need to have some level of reasonability.
I own the original combiner wars devastator, and it's crazy how similar the new one is to the old one from what we can see, except on the new one the individual figures are better articulated and have more thought put into them then the old ones (although this is likely because the figures are being sold separately, unlike the original).
I totally agree, Devastator looks amazing and I'm more than excited to collect the Constructicons, which look great alone too
One thing i want to add is general quality of both of them. The Combiner Wars was alright but seeing this new SS version is very good, especially knowing the modern plastics that are used, especially for figures like the 86 line and Legacy line are better in quality than the much more thin and hollow plastics of Prime Wars era
Justifying the size by saying that he's the same height as Menasor, is ignoring the fact that Menasor was the wrong height to begin with. If Menasor was released to be as tall as the dinobots, there would probably be defenders of that too.
the one i hate the most is people saying "iT lOokS tOO sImilAr to CombIner WarS!!?!!"
it's almost like they're the same character???
I still feel paying for the Unite Warriors Devastator was worth it way back when, but let’s be honest, he’s unstable AF. Now that Hasbro has had nearly of decade of designing modern combiners under its belt I’m looking forward to a new version of the Constructicons
The only 2 issues I had with combiner wars Devastator was the toothick width Scavenger arm in combiner mode and the lack of elbows of scrapper. If they fix the arm with of scavenger in this version Id be super satisfied.
A friend in an FB group sold me his for a 100 about few years ago in midst of CW, and it's been my go-to Dev since due to it sizing well with the other Combiners.
I want the 86 constructicons so I can keep them in robot mode, the two shown look so good. My combiner wars version will remain as Devastator as I invested in the upgrades
If vehicles were actually all to scale, Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus would have to look up to Starcream, and Blaster and Soundwave would be a few millimeters big.
Hoping we get a new Predaking in the same scale as these upcoming cominbers. Proportions seemed a little odd, like the thin waist, since they incorporated all the extra combiner bits into the bots themselves.
00:01 I made it in the video thats so cool, thanks bro
Looks like an oversized core class at best
I'm getting Devastator for sure... but I did not know we have another bruticus coming shortly after....Definitely my favorite combiner.
Please watch my last stop motion … it’s my oversized KO Bruticus - 18 inch
Bruticus was always my fave as a kid
And MENASOR
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I can’t understand the complaints for this. They finally give us a beyond solid looking figure, sure he isn’t the largest Devastator, but this is the best thing that’s happened to combiner figures since they brought them back big time in legacy
We need a legends scale Omega supreme!!😂
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1:00 I like OS'd bots too, but being transparent about cost and timing does not mean they're not overpriced.
Also, SS86 is supposed to be a line keyed in on bringing accurate TFs to the '86 movie, so bringing up the Devastation game is near irrelevant. Size comparisons should be with the SS86 dinobots that attacked him in that movie.
4:44 predaking as six animals?!?!? What are you talking about, the MMC Feral Rex/Nero Rex or their OS'd versions? Those had an extra bot that wasn't originally a part of the team.
1- I actually said the fact that a ratchet cost 15.00 per toy ( this one )
2 ) when I brought up MENASOR and Dev as far as height , I was making the point that they have been the same size at least once in the 40 years I’ve known them .. people were saying he was always BIGGER ..
Nope . Devestation .
Thanks for the comment
Keep being awesome
im excited for 86 DEVESTATOR i have both figuers up on preorder at the bbts . i dont care for ball joints never liked them but waiting to see how the figuer turns out befor i pass judgement
I personally wanted 15-17 inch combiners across the board... but cost wise, I think they made the best choices for consumer. Because that Combiner Wars Devestator is nowhere near as complex as this new one will be. People were never going to pay the cost required for larger combiners at retail.
I pre-ordered. Can’t wait to have them all and form Devastator. I would prefer a box set though.
For me the G1 Accuracy is putting me off, but I have faith in this figure being pretty good. Combiner Wars Superion is the best scale for combiners across the board.
Now while I'm hunting for TFC Toys Hercules *_(as he's my favorite G1-Style Devastator figure overall and in design)_*
I wouldn't be disappointed if I got SS86.
Now I just need a SSGE Devastation Menasor to exist. Basically do Combiner Wars 2.0, with a new Menasor figure that isn't a Skeleton, add Blackjack and I'll be sold.
I already pre ordered bonecrusher and scrapper and I'm happy I did it because Amazon marketed bonecrusher at 24.99 and big bad toy store has scrapper going for 34.99 and that makes me unbelievably happy because so far my wish for them to be priced at a reasonable price range is so far coming true
My only complaint is now I'm going to have a combiner wars devastator that I need to store! Got all the upgrades and it looks great but the 86 one looks DOPE
We TF fans can be very hard to please. Product designers are limited by the dimensions of standard store shelves. This is part of the reason construction vehicles in the TF world are the same size as stunt cars.
I don’t even collect Studio Series 86, but, I’m getting these figures.
Im Thankful!
I’ve always wanted to get a cartoon version of Devastator, while I do have the studio series one it’s just not my type of combiner. And seeing the first pictures of this new cartoon version of him is really exciting me 😊 so I’m happy he’s being made.
I love Devy, my fave combiner. The new one, looks awesome and i already have the first 2 on order
It’s great for people who want it. Yes it should match the size roughly the current Menasaur all the combiners in this line should be roughly the same size for consistency. What it should not do is look like core class figures, and shouldn’t have hollow bits. It should look significantly better than the prior version.
I bought the unite warriors version of combiner wars devastator which I chose/ paid more for the better paint apps, included individual guns, switchable visor/eyes, and bigger size intending to display it as my Devastator. It does not look as great in individual bot mode and is decent in vehicle mode. I do not need the new Devastator for combined mode, would love to play around with the individual figures in bot and vehicle mode, but do not see them as looking good enough to spend the money. It is great that the are so many options out there from Legends to masterpiece to ko undersized and oversized.
i mean im not gonna complain about scale or anything im just gonna say i dont like it. i think as a toy it looks rather low quality for the price, especially when the third party options available are only slightly more expensive but infinitely better to me. overall just doesn't suit my tastes. do love the communication we are seeing around the new toys though, they're doing great on that front. hell im like the only person that liked the all cardboard packaging but i know im in the minority and im glad they're being more responsive on most stuff
The combined mode looks perfect. Other than being overpriced, Scrapper looks great in all 3 modes. Bonecrusher just seems like a decent deluxe as well.
People are complaining about the wrong things.
“Oh there’s holes, oh there’s ball joints, the combined mode has one wrong detail.”
If you want to complain, how about 2 Deluxe figures with a dozen partsforming pieces being sold for $135 CAD! This isn’t really an affordable set, and is gonna end up costing about $30+ more than the Menasor from Legacy, a figure which I feel hit the sweet spot for Combiner pricing.
I’m excited for this. Just sold my UW devastator because he was too big for my collection.
Call me SpongeBob cause I'm ready
The original CW Devastator was $150 in 2015. After inflation, that puts it at $200 in 2024 money. SS86 is gonna be $210 after all is said and done, and the individual bots look so much better. And the combiner will fit in the collection better. I see no downside here.
I just realized bonecrushers treads turn green just like how they do in G1 in combine mode!
It looks so much better than the CW version. One that that put me off of that one was the bright fluro paint job. Mixmaster too, with that horrendous vehicle mode, and not having the individual units sold separately. Not everyone can afford the Titan price range.
But What I do want to see one day are screen accurate versions of the other G1 combiners, that could do full "Scramble City", mix up the limbs, swap them around, with the Seacons too. That would be amazing.
One of the reasons I LOVED combiner wars
I got the UW version but I'm still keeping it and also buying 86 because I like 86 being smaller means less crazy storage space
my only concern is how dinky the right bicep of devastator might be, this is why i love my gravity builder big D so much.. sure hes stylized but hes still devastator... this one.. looks great, but i have my own little worries, of course im gonna complete him, cause i do that.. im hoping he isnt a huge flop like Raiden was.
Negative voices are far louder than positive voices. I cannot wait to finish getting these guys. I never had a complete devastator of any form, except for a little guy I got *recently* from Ali E, and that one is pretty cool, but it is small. Hasbro even screwed up my Tonka version and sent me some GD GIJoe crap in it's place because they ran out in spite of my pre-order...they did eventually refund me, though.
I am super excited for this Devastator. I can't tell you how excited I am. I pre-ordered the first two the second they were posted.
You are sooo right . And wow. I have a legends scale version and I love it
@@THE14THPRIME229 This is the one I got...love it...and was $11 to my door. lol
th-cam.com/video/G4V9dr5EoKE/w-d-xo.html (I think that is it anyway -- and mine does peg together at the chest)
Commander size when combined lol i'll keep my titan size combiner wars
I like the look of this new Devastator. I believe it's not tall enough. Watching the 86 movie, Slag charges him and comes up to Devastator's knee. Hasbro scaled this Devastator to be similar in size to Menosar because they will repackage it for the Generations line. Collectors have a right to be disappointed/enthusiastic, after all it's their decision to buy or not.
All facts
The height will probably be “fixed” whenever a 3rd company decides to upscale 86 Devastor.
On the internet, people always find something to complain about, TF collectors are especially no exception to this
I just think Devastator should be larger being 6 figures instead of 5 plus as you said they're construction vehicles.
I'd be okay if he was only be 3" taller just to give him a slightly taller stance but not breaking combiner heights.
I wish they would've shown some articulation in the video, he looks like a big brick just standing there. I'm sure he'll be great and pose great though. My gripe is that the treads are the same color as the toy, it may be cartoon accurate to the bots but doesn't look as good when comparing to nbk devi.
Yeah I agree
People just want to hate everything nowadays, I think he looks amazing and will be picking him up since I never got the CW version!
honestly i think this looks great and if the rumors that the extra parts will form a 7th vehicle this will be great!
I'm really hoping that we get a bruticus that actually looks good with better movement than the combiner wars one
It’s coming
Already pre-ordered the first two not even worried about the people
Fans always want more, like who cares as long as they do them and make them as accurate as possible for the price point
FACTS
It's looks good. It's definitely worth checking out.
It might be very pricy, but what if they made all the constructions leader class figures? (Voyagers with a bigger budget for engineering)
Throwing shade at Reactivate 😆 But yeah, 86 Devastator looks great so far and he's not even available yet! Do I already have Jinbao Devastator? Yeah, but I'll still get this guy too!
3:05 are Scrapper's arms the heel of right feet..? That's certainly a choice
I8" Devastator (official or OS KO) vs Hasbro Omega Supream and 86" Dinobots is a nice re-enactment. Omega Supream in BASE Mode, i can sit it next to Hasbro Metroplex & Hasbro Ark.
I did it on this channel a few years ago … re doing it now
The only nitpick i had of him was the legs for me looked off short to me. But look the digibash it looks better!
I like em. I never bought the CW Devastator I bought the UW Devastator in 2016
Honestly 86 Devastator looks great and really solid. It’s crazy how many complaints there are before they’re in hand and fully revealed. And why wouldn’t you display him as a giant robot?? Don’t forget what we saw could still change. Just buy third party if you don’t like it. Simple. I have waited 40 years for this combiner, so I’m all in.
I'm not really into devastator considering that the arc bots can beat him.
But this actually looks really good, so i'm actually in on this set
i only have a couple nitpicks with how the 86 devastator looks. one is, the leges seem to be off centred. like the thighs are just lined up to far to one side each. second, the chest crest is hanging a bit to low for my taste, allowing to unsightly gaps to be seen clearly. is the crest and legs were retooled just slightly so they can slide into a better position, no complaints with the look at all.
The community gets worse every few years. I just saw what was probably the best Transformers movie in the theater since the 86 animated movie, and yet, virtually no one came out to support it because it either wasn't G1, wasn't live-action, or because Chris Hemsworth didn't sound nearly as great as Peter Cullen.
There are limits with physics. I can deal with gaps and some disproportions. I will buy them.
They did not make enough for everyone the preorder was sold out as soon as it was available to the public.
Pre orders are still available on BBTS
@ are they reliable cause I had something for pre order a while back and they just kept pushing the date back so I’ve been a little skeptical
@DennisRMrradio9 I have never had any problems with them, especially when it comes to buying Hasbro Transformers, and I have been buying from them since 2018. I couldn't tell you about how they deal with other brands, plus their customers' services have been awesome the two times I have called them. I bought Snapdragon from them, and the figure had a little screw broken, and they replaced it immediately, and they let me keep the broken one too, and I also bought a DNA upgrade kit for POTP Optimus Primal and the larger wings that the kit brought to replace the smaller ones the figure came with were missing they gave me a refund immediately and they let me keep the upgrade kit but like I said before been buying from them close to 7 years now and no problems
It was bound to happen. I will say give them time, and the figures should be back for pre-orders. After all, Christmas is around the block.
Can’t believe people think that siege is supposed to be g1, it’s inspired but it ain’t accurate and Omega in that show was huge, that’s why the ss86 line is there for the g1 accuracy but for the movie
Right ! Omega and SCORPONOK were GIANTS !!!
@ exactly, you can see in the devastation game that the vehicles dwarf Optimus, like looking at Mixmaster in combine mode you can see that the cab is as big or larger than Optimus in both mode
@ anyways, I’ve been waiting for this character for the line ever since after my hesitation and then enjoyment of the line and wanted to have another combiner which we rarely get in the mainline so it’s great that this and other combiners are coming
i got my preorder in on Scrapper n Bonecrusher.
I think it looks amazing. Super excited for this Devastator. So I would say the people who aren't complaining are just buying them. I personally always thought CW Devastator was too big. The scales and sizes of things in G1 were so all over the place. I for one can't wait.
@@nathangerardy2669 the sunbow chart exposed A LOT
As much as I did want the Titans Return Devastator, I'm not mad with this one because he will scale well with my BW Menasor which is Legends Scale. I do wish they made Bonecrusher a little better because even Magic Squares Bonecrusher doesn't look like the mech from Aliens, his chest should have been smaller and his legs longer, but I don't care because he will sit in his combiner mode forever✊🏿
That’s how I feel about all my combiners … one day imma break them down but when I go to .. I’m like
Nah .. yall stay TOGETHER 💯💯💯🙋🏽♂️😂
@@THE14THPRIME229It's all about space, I have a 3rd party Devastator and 3rd party Bruticus, but I have no need to break them down mainly because of space. I forgot about my 3rd party Predaking🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂but space is not a luxury I have so all my combiners will stay together. I just copped a Pangu Omega Supreme and I hope he scales close to the new Devy✊🏽
I'm just glad they did a 86 devastator to a scale of menasor . No complaints here. I suppose they wanna scale it correctly with the mainline 86 which is what i am currently collecting. So big yay to me..hehe
Really hoping they do bruticus next fingers cross and other combiners too..
There is a chug size devastator same scale as menasor from maketoys btw.
There are so many options out there in scale as small as legends and as big as MP. 3rd party company makes loads of them & some are really good. It all boils down to the preference of the collector. 😊
I do wish the upper arms didn't split at the treads and the top of the vehicle is where it hinges just like the CW. That's why I skipped on that one. It's going to make the upper arms too skinny and a really wide chest. I was hoping the whole vehicle moved with the treads too like the show. I'm passing and sticking with my Jinbao with the Like Toys upgrade kit. I'm looking forward to Bruticus and Superion cuz I don't have a representation of those Combiners
I honestly would have preferred Devastator to be not that big anyways because he’s just not the strongest combiner. Combiners like predaking or abominus deserve to be bigger
I have thought about this a great deal. And I have come to A decision as to where I stand on the subject. First off, I believe combiners should be just smaller than Titans meaning combiner Wars Devastator should be the right scale. The only problem with that is the figures individually are always too big. So the simple fact is Hasbro or anyone can't make combiners big enough and keep the figures in scale as well. So all I would ask from Hasbro is consistency and that seems to be what they're providing now. All combiners are going to be about twice the size of a leader class ie Optimus Prime Megatron so on.
And to be honest, I can get behind that decision due to the fact that the only figure that really makes that out of scale is Omega Supreme and even with him there are options out there if you want something to scale with him. So I think Hasbro have done the right thing in the end.
Transformers fans are never beating the never happy with anything allegations
Fingers crossed for a Defensor.
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I have the knock off and i have the cw devastator and i still plan on getting the 86 and am looking forward to it. Im hoping he has better joints and better posabilty than cw.
Definitely
This will be my first constructicons and devastator, so im excited. I got my pre-order for at least for scrapper on bbts ready. I think he looks great even though i probably will keep the in normal robot more but who knows
I break my combiners down every once in a while but then dread putting them back
@@THE14THPRIME229 Honestly so real. I think devastator is cool and all but idk something about their normal robot modes I like more. We still havent even see the rest of them yet and people are complaining about devastator. Its just annoying honestly
If those colors are anything to g by, he’s not perfect, but he is damn stellar. *cough* *cough* Chestplate *cough* *cough*
I didn’t know there were complaints, I was just happy to finally get a mainline devastator, plus if people are really complaining, there’s probably gonna be an upgrade kit down the line
Personally I like the devastator we got, and as long as he’s stable and fun to play with, I’m satisfied
I’m just happy we finally got an update on one of , if not the, most iconic combiner
I'm definitely not complaining.
😁
I think devastator is perfect height. He's a little bit taller than menasor. And I'm hoping that he's strong enough to be put together and taken apart and transforming them all. Cuz maybe just maybe we can make him lift sludge.
Right !! Apparently they put strong ratchets in scrapper and mixmaster
So we can .
We should have to worry remembertfO people though the movie isn't great but when it was released it was the best
Complaints, but also sold out preorders 😂
That PoP Predaking was ass imo. I never got it and went with TFC Ares instead. I didn't like how the midsection was a separate piece. But I'll be swapping out my TFC Hercules for this SS86 Devastator.
I didn’t even realize people were complaining about him. Well my stance on the subject. I think it looks good so far and haven’t seen anything that warrants any complaints
He's everything Menasor should have been . Honestly wish Me asor had bigger legs and a little taller . And of course, better leg cars. The arms were fine