@@xIIxNeMeSiSxIIx yeah I tried that ages ago but it didn't really worked for me. the fact that I'm using 4 dimms is also probably not helping very much. I decided to just leave it alone and if I need faster ram I'll just get faster ram.
People are complaining about things being complicated on a channel called actually hardcore overclocking... You're in the wrong place guys, this man right here doesn't do "overclocking for beginners" videos. You come here cause you're stuck at some advanced problem. And to relax cause i love to listen to this guy rambling while aim-practicinh
I just bought two sticks of memory from a company I never would have considered before watching your reviews. I acquired 16GB (8x2GB) of Team Group Dark Pro 3200MHz DDR4 @ CAS 14-14-14-14-32. (Samsung Bdie) Looking forward to massaging the secondary timings with the help of your review of the R52400G overclocking video. Also bought the MSI B450M Mortar based on your review. Your hard work does make a difference and it is greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing.
If you finish this in series I'll send you and Steve from Gamers Nexus $25 through patreon. I would have never found out about your channel if not for Gamers Nexus. Great video.
WTB part two: timings and what they mean, how to set them. I know it's been covered by others, but you give such good information and have such a deep well of knowledge it would benefit us a lot. I know you might be moving onto DDR5 though.
So do most of the top overclockers in the HwBot.org league, but they just can't be arsed to make videos and often they don't like sharing secrets with the masses. Anyone that runs benchmarks and spots patterns in the results can improve their system performance. Overclocking is easy but being good at overclocking takes a long time, I'm still learning after 10 years.
Well I would agree with blackbird you should choose something on the compatibility list for your board. Ryzen systems tend to do best with RAM using samsung B die IC modules. A kit rated at 3200mhz C14 is likely using B die. B die kits are pretty much the only kits that can reliably exceed 2933mhz on ryzen without slacking up the timings or using excessive DRAM voltage. Talking about "future proofing" when it comes to RAM speeds and timing is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Just get a kit you can afford that is on the compatibility list, the higher the speed and lower the timings the better. Speed is generally going to be MUCH more important when it comes to performance in the vast majority of circumstances than timings are.
having worked in PCB manufacturing, as a servicer of wave and reflow soldering equipment, that stuff is often manufactured under contract PCB mfg companies
Hey Buildzoid, how are you not working for one of these company,s , you know so much about everything that has to do with PC,s really man someone needs to hire you , you know more about how PC,s work than 95% of the people that run all these company,s, thx for that insight on how memory works, Big fan' Great video.
Companies that make RAM sticks typically do not state what dies go into RAM, as they source from multiple manufacturers in the production of each SKU. RAM sticks are matched with the same memory to improve compatibility, although before Ryzen, the difference between different fabrications of memory made little to no observable difference, so there was no reason to limit supplies to specific dies as this would just skyrocket costs and RAM availability. The motherboard manufacturer may have got one (or a few) kit(s) of the RAM, tested them, and since they got Samsung dies they may have assumed all would be the same. BIOS updates have improved memory compatibility quite a lot with Ryzen already, with reportedly more to come.
@@stevethea5250 If its not for Ryzen, I would never be bothered to oc ram, the measurable difference is too low. Kinda thanks AMD for dragging me from normie cpu oc into the dark art of ram oc.
A sad state of affairs for my this morning. I had been ordering 2 dual channel kits of the same part number, speed, and timings to get 4x8gb sticks. This has been working out great, even with XMP. This morning, I found a dead dimm in one of the kits. Not even a dual channel or bios issue, just a bad ram module. Yayyy. Sending in for replacement, so here's hoping. Tested in multiple slots, on two of the same boards. a single stick boots without issue, but running the other module, the machine won't boot, period. Thanks for all of you education on Ram.
Ryzen DRAM Calculator, is a great tool, added with Thaipoon burner. these will do the calculations for many different timings and sub timings and even Bclk, ,voltages, and many other settings.
I appreciate the video. Not a lot of good info on RAM out there and with how touchy CPUs are getting with DRAM especially like Ryzen it's maddening trying to run at the advertised speed of a RAM kit you buy sometimes. For such a long time I always thought RAM was just plug and play and noone every corrected me, even after I started building PCs, for a while before I found out that if you buy a 3200 MHz kit it doesn't run at that clock out of the box and the XMP profiles may not work or be the best option. Learning how to set up timings and choose good RAM has improved my systems buy quite a bit.
heared lots of your stuff on Steves channel aka Gamers Nexus props on your knowledge base didn't realise you were so young so even more props. I was expecting a guy in his 40's lol keep up the awesome work glad to now be a subscriber. Sorry if that comes across as odd I'm an aspie so I hope you take it as a compliment.
I am very new to overclocking RAM. TBH it's a lot to swallow and I'm still ignorant to much but I'm a lot less ignorant after watching this video. You do great work BZ! Thanks 👍🏿
I always use the formula you said of dividing the memory frequency by the timing, and I always found you get more performance with the higher clock speed. 9 times out of ten you can overclock lower speed memory kits a couple of hundred mhz and keep stock primary timings and voltage, at least on a decent motherboard which sorts the secondary timings well.
Very good video, very informative! I just started overclocking My Adata xpg Dazzle 2400 DDR, currently running at 2666 14 16 16 39 1,35 looking forward to overclock it more, those chips are Spectrix memory manufacturer, so I could not find them in the RAM DDR4 calculator
Really helpful and ultimately reinforced my plan to get 3200 14, unless I misunderstood something. Seems like the best option for high performance without getting ridiculous in price.
Your comments made at 9:21 made me cry, I have Corsair Vengeance LED CL16 DDR4 3200mhz. All i heard is... "worst RAM on the ram planet." =( That's what i get for trying to save a buck or two since ram prices have been inflated.
this kid was tlaking about early micron what? @ 2400 MHz was it? LOL... memory was ok in the 90s but OCing RAM wasn't really a thing until hmm end of the nawties I suppose.. he'd be alive then ya? Anyway, early micron in ddr4 then ?
I did a little digging. After some googling turns out its samsung ram chips, not sure of the quality. Since i hear the quality is random on my particular kit. I've only managed to tighten timings a wee bit. Haven't ran any stability tests to verify.
For gaming I use the rated voltage on the stick, for benching so far I've not used over 1.65v as when I've gone to 1.75 I couldn't get any faster speeds or better timings. I can't afford more RAM so that's as far as I'm going for now. You won't gain a lot of real world performance squeezing the last bit with high voltages anyway. On Z370 & Z270 I've found 3866mhz with 16-18-18-40-3T at stock voltage gives me the best performance with everything else on auto. I do run Apex boards though which have very good auto settings. You need to make sure the northbridge speed is on point as that will affect performance more than ram a lot of the time.
@@Davido2369 I don't know, as I say I stick to the recommended voltage for daily use. I'm building a cheap FX 6300 rig for someone for xmas and am finding that performance on games like PUBG & Fortnite is better at stock speed than with an overclock provided northbridge, HT link and memory settings are optimal. Games like Fallout 4 still benefit from a CPU overclock but I tend to build PC's to be optimized for the individual user. I only tested as it will be nice for it to be able to drop the clock speed and voltage when idle which it can only do when stock or overclocked off the base clock rather than the multiplier. I got bored with extreme overclocking as apart from learning how the system responds to inputs it doesn't benefit anyone and I got fed up with spending money on new hardware all the time. Memory generally performs best for games with the stock speeds and timings, sometimes slightly looser if anything. Getting the northbridge right always gives good gains everywhere for everything on any system. Ryzen sucks because you can't adjust it separately from the clock which limits it's potential.
Man, you're a freaking genius. I got 2x8 gigs of these crappy binned crucial 2400mhz cl17 (without the heatsinks) for free, and I tried to overclock them on my ryzen 5 for like 2-3 months with repeated failed attempts. It was never truly stable, always failing prime95 blend together with a video playing in chrome in conjunction (awesome memory stability test). I consulted some big guns at overclock.net, nothing helped. As soon as I heard what you said regarding early micron bdies and voltage, I said I must try it, as the lowest I went was 1.31v. It was awkward to me that as I raised the voltage in an effort to solve instability, prime 95 errored much quicker. As soon as I followed your advice, and lowered to voltage to 1.28v , its was like freaking magic. Tighter timing @2666 rock solid. Such a long battle came to an end, ironically, with lowering the voltage. I'm amazed. thank you.
Yup, it turns out that way sometimes. My Rx 480 actually wants to stay below 1.2v to hit 1400mhz on the core. Really getting in-depth with overclocking can yield some pretty interesting results
Indeed. I won't lie though, I've never thought oc instability issues I'll have without overheating will get solved with undervolting. So counterintuitive .
You should make Ryzen 3000 memory comparison... specially which CL16 DDR4 have the best value (3200 CL16 kits are the cheapest). So basicly 3200-3333-3400-3466 CL16
where you get those oc results? with my searching skill i get 1.4 voltage for 24/7 and where i can see which memory is on my stick and are there results already for this stick? regards
I watch ur gn videos on mb x570 I didn't not know u where so young ur a genius lol and thanks for all your help and opinions on things your a legend mate
Look's like Buildzoid himself have got bandwidth limit. So much data and so small amout of time. Even if there is 26 minutes and 52 seconds. But since i looking for a RAM - it was an excellent timing! =))
I would love an update video to this one. I've watched it several times and when I hear you say the GSkill 14cl kits are "bottom of the barrel" I don't understand why at all. Aren't lower cl ratings at a comparable freq better? This part really lost me and I'd love an indepth explanation on the current 3000-3200 ddr4 ram choices.
Hmm. Let's call H/c (where H is the frequency and c is the CAS latency) the Buildzoid Rank (B). The actual CAS latency is 1/H * c = c/H or 1/B. That number is not pulled from nowhere. It is the exact inverse of the "actual" time it takes to perform a Column Access Thingamagig. I don't know memory, but Math... well, I don't know that either, but I pretend. Apologies if others have pointed this out.
That bit about Micron is 100% accurate. For me, it absolutely refuses to boot at 1.4v even with ridiculous SOC voltages and nice LLC. I can't get it to 2933, but I got 2800 and that was questionably stable. I'm back to 2667 and crap timings, but I guess I'll mess with timings now to see how well that works! What voltage should I use on the SOC for my Ryzen 5 1600 on my MSI X370 Gaming Pro carbon? I use 1.15v right now.
RAM overclocking is very easy, just laborious - I got a 3600 kit from 18-22-22-42 to 16-19-16-36 without increasing any voltages. In fact, I had to take my SOC DOWN to 1.05V from the motherboard's auto. Just be methodical, keep a "moving record" of your last-known-good settings, and test for stability after any changes. There is a nice BIOS-bootable program called Memtest86 that can do a quick sub-10 mins stability test; my overclock took less than two hours, + Win 10 testing.
Great video ! I need your opinion, I own 4x4 Teamgroup Xtreem ram modules. Should I am for: 14-14-14:32 at 3200 or 18-18-18:38 at 4000 mhz ? Thanks in advance
they are owned by micron but they will buy DDR4 chips from other companies if micron can't keep up with demand. You can get Crucial kits with Samsung E-die and B-die.
He sounds like a University professor!! But looks like the guy in the back of the class throwing paper planes!!😅
This video is a gold mine of RAM overclocking knowledge! 👏
I really don't like this one. But no amount of retakes was making it better
I like it.
Seems pretty good so far.
I found nothing to dislike and I love nitpicking :D
I thinkk that i fell asleep lol ....it has been a rough day though
Actually Hardcore Overclocking nah, its was almost perfect except for the hair lol(you forgot to overclock your hair today(
me: "I wonder if I can overclock my corsair dominator platinums B-Die 3200 C16..."
buildzoid: "Corsair 3200 C16 is the worst B-Die on earth"
I have the same stuff, rip, got it to 3600mhz, with slightly tighter trimmings tho.
@@peytonhastreiter6866 I'd be VERY happy if I manage to boot it at 3600 with the "stock" C16 timings... No luck so far. I gave up trying.
@@ferna182 Did you try DRAM Calculator for your timings?
Hardware unboxed did a video on how to OC with this simple method
@@xIIxNeMeSiSxIIx yeah I tried that ages ago but it didn't really worked for me. the fact that I'm using 4 dimms is also probably not helping very much. I decided to just leave it alone and if I need faster ram I'll just get faster ram.
People are complaining about things being complicated on a channel called actually hardcore overclocking... You're in the wrong place guys, this man right here doesn't do "overclocking for beginners" videos. You come here cause you're stuck at some advanced problem. And to relax cause i love to listen to this guy rambling while aim-practicinh
however for this particular video the title does say "...Buying absolute basics"
@@AB-sr9mc 'basics' in the context of hardcore overclocking.
you look nothing like your voice would make me assume
Chaython Meredith I though he was like 45 years old!
@@jabatheshort660 Rick Ashley flashbacks
I absolutely would have thought he's been overclocking for like 20 years too!
he looks like a sk8er
he looks like an 18 year old but his voice sounds like 40 year old guy
I just bought two sticks of memory from a company I never would have considered before watching your reviews. I acquired 16GB (8x2GB) of Team Group Dark Pro 3200MHz DDR4 @ CAS 14-14-14-14-32. (Samsung Bdie) Looking forward to massaging the secondary timings with the help of your review of the R52400G overclocking video. Also bought the MSI B450M Mortar based on your review. Your hard work does make a difference and it is greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing.
“Absolute basics”
Yeah, not really.
That would be explaining frequency, CAS latency, etc.
@joyela aeuvunya samsung B dies
@@Cloudrak Samsung B dead
“Absolute basics for an advanced level topic”.
Sort of like a “entry level” or “101” course is Quantum Physics
@joyela aeuvunya its after A die.
Get a whiteboard and do a series on memory education starting from ground zero thru advance knowledge. “You can do it””!
If you finish this in series I'll send you and Steve from Gamers Nexus $25 through patreon. I would have never found out about your channel if not for Gamers Nexus.
Great video.
i found out about his channel on my own through searching water cooling vega 64
@@DragonProtector The leaks are great.
@@coows i abandoned my water cooling idea cause gpu died.
@@DragonProtector Did it die because of the water cooling, or it died before it?
@@coows it died before
WTB part two: timings and what they mean, how to set them.
I know it's been covered by others, but you give such good information and have such a deep well of knowledge it would benefit us a lot. I know you might be moving onto DDR5 though.
jesus...this guy knows stuff!!
Gameplay Store the crazier his hair, the more knowledge pours out of him. This isn't even his final form.
James Mastroianni pretty much everything is overclocked in his body
So do most of the top overclockers in the HwBot.org league, but they just can't be arsed to make videos and often they don't like sharing secrets with the masses.
Anyone that runs benchmarks and spots patterns in the results can improve their system performance. Overclocking is easy but being good at overclocking takes a long time, I'm still learning after 10 years.
You want to see him when he has his super saiyan hair on :D
his voice does NOT fit his face though lol he sounds like that tall guy from IT crowd but looks like a teenager.
This is the best tek video I have seen in a long time and I see tek videos daily. Cant wait for the deep dive on ram.
Watching this from the burnt out husk of a year 2020 but this really helped out.
Man... a very impressive video. Very informative.
Well I would agree with blackbird you should choose something on the compatibility list for your board.
Ryzen systems tend to do best with RAM using samsung B die IC modules. A kit rated at 3200mhz C14 is likely using B die. B die kits are pretty much the only kits that can reliably exceed 2933mhz on ryzen without slacking up the timings or using excessive DRAM voltage. Talking about "future proofing" when it comes to RAM speeds and timing is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Just get a kit you can afford that is on the compatibility list, the higher the speed and lower the timings the better. Speed is generally going to be MUCH more important when it comes to performance in the vast majority of circumstances than timings are.
a year later and still one of the best RAM videos that I know of
I heard Linus sent his CV to work for this guy.
Your mean Linus wanted to do his apprenticeship with Buildzoid?! I'm afraid he'd be in way over his head...
Linus is an idiot. Buildzoid wouldn't take him. lol
@@TheBlackIdentety Idiot who dropped out of school to start LMG. Do you own anything close? What's on your TH-cam channel?
@@AftermathXJ220 well said!
@@TheBlackIdentety how many full time employs do you have. if Linus is an idiot i wish i was as dumb as he is.
Wow, that was super informative! I'm looking forward to part 2 :
Buildzoid looks exactly like I imagined (in a good way), just younger. Looks cool, sounds cool, everything’s cool.
yes i understand im 3 years late exactly but omg your face is perfect but nothing i could have imagined, keep up the great work!
having worked in PCB manufacturing, as a servicer of wave and reflow soldering equipment, that stuff is often manufactured under contract PCB mfg companies
Half hour technical video in a single shot - so refreshing
Thanks
Great knowledge base. I can Imagine how much you know today. The passion is impressive.
Hey Buildzoid, how are you not working for one of these company,s , you know so much about everything that has to do with PC,s really man someone needs to hire you , you know more about how PC,s work than 95% of the people that run all these company,s, thx for that insight on how memory works, Big fan' Great video.
Justin Merrill then he won’t be able run a TH-cam channel, and also has less freedom about things he can discuss.
Respect on the body of knowledge and delivery!
My RAM has pretty lights, when they flash....every thing goes faster.
I have no clue what Buildzoid is talking about. That said he is entertaining as heck!
Is there a list/overview with all ddr4 memory chips (like e-die or d-die)?
If I'm searching for ram, how do I know what kind of die I'm looking at?
Great and informative video . This makes things simple. Now only need to learn how to set up ram timings.
I know this isn't your latest video, but the information in this is so helpful. Thanks
Here some very precious information. Thank you!
Holy crap, thank you for this instructional video. It's good to finally know what the heck I am buying for my PC. No more random numbers!
Commenting for algorithm, Excellent explanation and tips
He's not wrong about that subreddit :(
Companies that make RAM sticks typically do not state what dies go into RAM, as they source from multiple manufacturers in the production of each SKU.
RAM sticks are matched with the same memory to improve compatibility, although before Ryzen, the difference between different fabrications of memory made little to no observable difference, so there was no reason to limit supplies to specific dies as this would just skyrocket costs and RAM availability.
The motherboard manufacturer may have got one (or a few) kit(s) of the RAM, tested them, and since they got Samsung dies they may have assumed all would be the same.
BIOS updates have improved memory compatibility quite a lot with Ryzen already, with reportedly more to come.
@@stevethea5250 If its not for Ryzen, I would never be bothered to oc ram, the measurable difference is too low. Kinda thanks AMD for dragging me from normie cpu oc into the dark art of ram oc.
Still 1 of my favorite videos you did bro, I was able to say "HAH" to people that for years said I was wrong, I'm finally smart.....
I think I can come back to this video each year to learn something new
Great video and thanks for the advice yesterday on twitch. The k5 mobo fried itself and my ryzen 7 1700x. So long story short i now have a 8700k.
Spend 14 days of frustration tuning Corsair 3200MHz and with this video I'm happy knowing they need to volts, thanks.
Found you by watching your mobo analysis w/Gamers Nexus. Doing great work!
Thanks Zoid, helped a lot as I am early in my mem overclock.
You are my new favorite youtube channel, Keep up the good work man!
New to the channel. Great stuff man
Love your video's man, very smart and informative. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
Love your videos, can’t find anything else like your content. Truly one of a kind keep it up.
actually i really enjoy watching your content i find it very informative and i have learned a lot from you
Going to love using this video to be able to explain this to people, mainly because me reiterating any of this to anyone is near impossible XD
This is gold, super informative!
I'm starting to understand this! Thanks for uploading
A sad state of affairs for my this morning. I had been ordering 2 dual channel kits of the same part number, speed, and timings to get 4x8gb sticks. This has been working out great, even with XMP. This morning, I found a dead dimm in one of the kits. Not even a dual channel or bios issue, just a bad ram module. Yayyy. Sending in for replacement, so here's hoping. Tested in multiple slots, on two of the same boards. a single stick boots without issue, but running the other module, the machine won't boot, period. Thanks for all of you education on Ram.
omg i didnt realize you were this young, your a fooking genius
Ryzen DRAM Calculator, is a great tool, added with Thaipoon burner. these will do the calculations for many different timings and sub timings and even Bclk, ,voltages, and many other settings.
Didn't work with my micron A die 16/2400
I appreciate the video. Not a lot of good info on RAM out there and with how touchy CPUs are getting with DRAM especially like Ryzen it's maddening trying to run at the advertised speed of a RAM kit you buy sometimes. For such a long time I always thought RAM was just plug and play and noone every corrected me, even after I started building PCs, for a while before I found out that if you buy a 3200 MHz kit it doesn't run at that clock out of the box and the XMP profiles may not work or be the best option. Learning how to set up timings and choose good RAM has improved my systems buy quite a bit.
heared lots of your stuff on Steves channel aka Gamers Nexus props on your knowledge base didn't realise you were so young so even more props. I was expecting a guy in his 40's lol keep up the awesome work glad to now be a subscriber. Sorry if that comes across as odd I'm an aspie so I hope you take it as a compliment.
I am very new to overclocking RAM. TBH it's a lot to swallow and I'm still ignorant to much but I'm a lot less ignorant after watching this video. You do great work BZ! Thanks 👍🏿
great video, i am so happy that you finally make more ram videos, will be waiting for the following ones :)
I always use the formula you said of dividing the memory frequency by the timing, and I always found you get more performance with the higher clock speed. 9 times out of ten you can overclock lower speed memory kits a couple of hundred mhz and keep stock primary timings and voltage, at least on a decent motherboard which sorts the secondary timings well.
someone just delete every single other OC "guide" video and just have this one up there for everyone to see. this is pure solid gold content.
You have an amazing voice and accent
Very good video, very informative! I just started overclocking My Adata xpg Dazzle 2400 DDR, currently running at 2666 14 16 16 39 1,35 looking forward to overclock it more, those chips are Spectrix memory manufacturer, so I could not find them in the RAM DDR4 calculator
Really helpful and ultimately reinforced my plan to get 3200 14, unless I misunderstood something. Seems like the best option for high performance without getting ridiculous in price.
So, for all who don't want to watch all:
Buy Samsung firstly B-Die; E-Die; D-Die and apex/ Soc champion ln2 with i7 7700k/i7 8700k =D
Your comments made at 9:21 made me cry, I have Corsair Vengeance LED CL16 DDR4 3200mhz. All i heard is... "worst RAM on the ram planet." =( That's what i get for trying to save a buck or two since ram prices have been inflated.
no, worse relative to the rest of the same chip type used, not worse as in early micron as mentioned in another part, not worse than slow ram
That ram is one of the fastest of his tier
this kid was tlaking about early micron what? @ 2400 MHz was it? LOL... memory was ok in the 90s but OCing RAM wasn't really a thing until hmm end of the nawties I suppose.. he'd be alive then ya? Anyway, early micron in ddr4 then ?
He specifically stated early Micron DDR4. He wasn't talking pre DDR4.
I did a little digging. After some googling turns out its samsung ram chips, not sure of the quality. Since i hear the quality is random on my particular kit. I've only managed to tighten timings a wee bit. Haven't ran any stability tests to verify.
What is a reasonable max voltage for overclocking ddr4 ram on z370
For gaming I use the rated voltage on the stick, for benching so far I've not used over 1.65v as when I've gone to 1.75 I couldn't get any faster speeds or better timings. I can't afford more RAM so that's as far as I'm going for now.
You won't gain a lot of real world performance squeezing the last bit with high voltages anyway.
On Z370 & Z270 I've found 3866mhz with 16-18-18-40-3T at stock voltage gives me the best performance with everything else on auto. I do run Apex boards though which have very good auto settings.
You need to make sure the northbridge speed is on point as that will affect performance more than ram a lot of the time.
@@marcustaylor670 do you think 1.5v will be okay for daily use on 1.35v stick?
@@Davido2369 I don't know, as I say I stick to the recommended voltage for daily use. I'm building a cheap FX 6300 rig for someone for xmas and am finding that performance on games like PUBG & Fortnite is better at stock speed than with an overclock provided northbridge, HT link and memory settings are optimal.
Games like Fallout 4 still benefit from a CPU overclock but I tend to build PC's to be optimized for the individual user. I only tested as it will be nice for it to be able to drop the clock speed and voltage when idle which it can only do when stock or overclocked off the base clock rather than the multiplier.
I got bored with extreme overclocking as apart from learning how the system responds to inputs it doesn't benefit anyone and I got fed up with spending money on new hardware all the time. Memory generally performs best for games with the stock speeds and timings, sometimes slightly looser if anything. Getting the northbridge right always gives good gains everywhere for everything on any system. Ryzen sucks because you can't adjust it separately from the clock which limits it's potential.
very good and detailed overclocking guide
Man, you're a freaking genius. I got 2x8 gigs of these crappy binned crucial 2400mhz cl17 (without the heatsinks) for free, and I tried to overclock them on my ryzen 5 for like 2-3 months with repeated failed attempts. It was never truly stable, always failing prime95 blend together with a video playing in chrome in conjunction (awesome memory stability test). I consulted some big guns at overclock.net, nothing helped. As soon as I heard what you said regarding early micron bdies and voltage, I said I must try it, as the lowest I went was 1.31v. It was awkward to me that as I raised the voltage in an effort to solve instability, prime 95 errored much quicker. As soon as I followed your advice, and lowered to voltage to 1.28v , its was like freaking magic. Tighter timing @2666 rock solid. Such a long battle came to an end, ironically, with lowering the voltage. I'm amazed. thank you.
Yup, it turns out that way sometimes. My Rx 480 actually wants to stay below 1.2v to hit 1400mhz on the core. Really getting in-depth with overclocking can yield some pretty interesting results
Indeed. I won't lie though, I've never thought oc instability issues I'll have without overheating will get solved with undervolting. So counterintuitive .
You should do a video on how to OC memory .
Oh cool, overclocking/buying absolute basics...... A little misleading perhaps. I feel like I've seen my ram with its clothes off now...
Check the name of the channel
Actually hardcore overclocking. He knows his RAM better than you know yourself.
A 2 years late but seems commenters doesn't really get the OP joke.
@@kennyyuliandrika7162 Oh well :) Funny thing is, this guide is still somewhat relevant 2 years later.
umm..wot? seriously tho, thank-you sir. You tore down my misconception and set me straight re: true latency.
Loved this video. I actually learned some things... thank you.
You should make Ryzen 3000 memory comparison... specially which CL16 DDR4 have the best value (3200 CL16 kits are the cheapest). So basicly 3200-3333-3400-3466 CL16
Also consider the best ram speed suitable for your cpu cause sometimes higher ram freq harm cpu performance but it is 3 yrs ago video
What 80's band does this guy come from???
could listen to you ramble for hours
part 2 ASAP man, u are insane.
where you get those oc results? with my searching skill i get 1.4 voltage for 24/7 and where i can see which memory is on my stick and are there results already for this stick?
regards
Dude so helpful, thank god someone knows what they are talking about!
what was the summary?
First time seeing one of your video's keep it up!
I watch ur gn videos on mb x570 I didn't not know u where so young ur a genius lol and thanks for all your help and opinions on things your a legend mate
So glad I bought the right kit. I think.
Look's like Buildzoid himself have got bandwidth limit. So much data and so small amout of time. Even if there is 26 minutes and 52 seconds. But since i looking for a RAM - it was an excellent timing! =))
this is super helpful. thank you so much!
I would love an update video to this one. I've watched it several times and when I hear you say the GSkill 14cl kits are "bottom of the barrel" I don't understand why at all. Aren't lower cl ratings at a comparable freq better? This part really lost me and I'd love an indepth explanation on the current 3000-3200 ddr4 ram choices.
He was talking about G.Skill using B die in 3000/cl14 specs. Which would, indeed, indicate the bottom of the barrel B die.
Hmm. Let's call H/c (where H is the frequency and c is the CAS latency) the Buildzoid Rank (B). The actual CAS latency is 1/H * c = c/H or 1/B. That number is not pulled from nowhere. It is the exact inverse of the "actual" time it takes to perform a Column Access Thingamagig. I don't know memory, but Math... well, I don't know that either, but I pretend. Apologies if others have pointed this out.
oh no buildzoid is gorgeous holy crap
So 3200 CL14 is faster than 4000 CL19. Good info dude thank you.
your voice sounds like 30+ guy
and then a 20-ish cute guy show up in the thumbnail, I went like ... WTF? Is that him? 😱😱😱
Old MacGyver voice, young MacGyver face.
The question is wich voltage is save for 24/7/365/5-10 use!?
I really dont care about the RAM score as long as i cant use it in my daily life!
1.45 should be fine,even 1.5
Yeah, nice explanation.Good job sir!
thanks for the explanation man !
really helpful
There are people that consider themselves experts...Then...there is this guy!
Holy shit this guy is intelligent.
That bit about Micron is 100% accurate. For me, it absolutely refuses to boot at 1.4v even with ridiculous SOC voltages and nice LLC. I can't get it to 2933, but I got 2800 and that was questionably stable. I'm back to 2667 and crap timings, but I guess I'll mess with timings now to see how well that works!
What voltage should I use on the SOC for my Ryzen 5 1600 on my MSI X370 Gaming Pro carbon? I use 1.15v right now.
Nanya does make DDR4 chips, and I believe some ram stick makers do use them, Just very rare
RAM overclocking is very easy, just laborious - I got a 3600 kit from 18-22-22-42 to 16-19-16-36 without increasing any voltages. In fact, I had to take my SOC DOWN to 1.05V from the motherboard's auto. Just be methodical, keep a "moving record" of your last-known-good settings, and test for stability after any changes.
There is a nice BIOS-bootable program called Memtest86 that can do a quick sub-10 mins stability test; my overclock took less than two hours, + Win 10 testing.
buildzoid is a monster!
Great video !
I need your opinion, I own 4x4 Teamgroup Xtreem ram modules.
Should I am for: 14-14-14:32 at 3200 or 18-18-18:38 at 4000 mhz ? Thanks in advance
Crucial doesn't buy memory chips as far as I know, they are a subsidiary brand of micron, so they actually make everything in-house.
they are owned by micron but they will buy DDR4 chips from other companies if micron can't keep up with demand. You can get Crucial kits with Samsung E-die and B-die.
Interesting, thanks for the clarification.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking is e die better than b die
30G well e die are Samsung kits like 2x4gb and b die are Samsung 2x8gb for example
Was waiting for the basic stuff to start and the video ended already.
I WISH TO BE SMART LIKE HIM.