3:40 This is why I won't be returning after all these new nerfs comes to the game again. I don't have the time to waste on this game any more. I would rather give my time to games, where the developers value the players time spent, and isn't afraid to let their playbase to feel powerful.
Thing is, this x5 event that just finished, what were we doing all week? The same we do every week, I did about 100ish levels and just realised that I'm doing the same thing
@NYLCasualGaming it just sped up the game with golden bullet. I usually play for 3 hours a day, but with GB I did all my usual stuff within 1hr 30mins and then played something else. So basically I did everything in half the time but played the game for less time. Overall I just got over level 3000 but I was level 2700ish to start. I think.
@NYLCasualGaming Well I hope when you Leave the game that you don't talk anything negative about the game. There is always something new to do in this game.
You do realize that raising issues with a game is necessary for it to get better? That if everyone just smiles and says everything is fine then nothing changes? It frustrates me that when players who clearly love the game raise concerns that the reaction is 'Just don't play it'. That is how you guarantee a game stagnates and dies. As for always something new, tell me about one piece of new content since Paradise Lost.
I can sum up Seasons 2.0 in one word: "Nontent". It's just a low-effort maintenance reshuffle of product they've already released, in the vain hope that there's some as-yet untapped player base who's going to jump into a buggy five-year-old video game. The fact is, Star Wars Outlaws was supposed to be the new Massive title, and that wound up being a massive *TURD*.
I star Ghost of Tsushima awesome game finally move on from division have enough of dev ignorance,keep your nerfs,delays. Ubisoft Is finish pay ultimate price for not listening players
Absolutely thanks big grind but hey I give 5 years of my life to Division, enough and now they blame us for delays because they constantly ignoring community opinions
I was waiting for quite some time for Brooklyn DLC or some other interesting new content and I guess I finally got tired and moved on to other games. Not sure they can or care to do something good with this game, especially given the poor condition Ubi is in currently.
Yes and no. I think they will put enough effort into the game in order to retain and even possibly increase the player base so that there is enough hype around the Division 3. DLC has just been delayed by another week today. 🤣
Yes. I would love for there to be more open communication with the developers about the game and what they are trying to do with it. But sadly they have been very quiet on what the Brooklyn DLC will bring, let alone the future after that.
When you have thousands of options, giving up is always one of them. Just what they could do with the existing content of TD2. Kenly College, for example, an entire map, visited once and never again. They could have events take place there.
The pressure is really on now for Massive after the star wars flop. Personally I don't think will ever see the DLC or Division 3, that's one of the reasons why I moved on from the division
I can't undertand why they insist at Massive in nerfs. Don't nerf HF -they nerfed. Don't nerf TotS - they nerfd. Now Strikers, saintelmo and Scorpio. I don't want any of those! Why they can't create new content and missions?
Everything you said is 100% true. I play Division 1 3 months after the release and I remember all the new content we use to get so when the division 2 came out I thought it was going to be similar or better but after playing the game for 5 years with the same missions I lost the excitement each time I used to login. I tried to challenge myself by doing the legendary missions solo and what the devs. did? They wiped the leaderboard. and all my clan members left the game so at this point I am no longer interested in play same missions with a Nerf gear and weapons.
The *last* thing The Division needs is to start taking dead ideas from a dead genre like MMORPGs. "Class Identity" is just a cipher for "Fewer meaningful choices", and already the Division 2 is highly prescriptive in terms of build diversity because of the piss-poor job they do enabling hybrid builds with their itemization. The core problem is that their skill system has no synergy with the game's core gunplay mechanic. It is a bolted-on afterthought, a way to empower handicapped people to participate with the game's core player-base. It's not a coincidence that the most popular skills are just passive survival abilities or fire and forget ones, like turrets or seeker mines. Sure, you can build a dedicated healer or crowd-control skill build, but healing and crowd control are meaningless if you can't kill enemies. Anything which slows down the rate at which you can neutralize enemies is a downgrade in the pace at which you accrue power. So, rather than class identity, I'd prefer to see *real choices* offered to the player, instead of just "Maximize DPS meta". But in order to do that, they need to provide the synergy and power to hybrid builds, so that having a strong crowd control or heal component in your build doesn't come at the expense of 75% of your damage output.
The Division started out as an FPS RPG with very strong MMO vibes. However, in Division 2 it was dumbed down with many other things, the DZ for example, to ‘cater for a wider audience’. When in fact all that did was to make it lose its identity and became just like every other looter shooter. So this is not taking ideas from MMOs, this is going back to its roots and the vision that the developers originally had for the franchise. A hybrid build is a class identity. Every MMO has hybrid classes. And wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a specialization that lean’t into that and gave it some cool features. Abilities could be ones that are triggered by the playstyle rather than active ones. It looks like you agree that currently everything is pushed into the core gameplay mechanic. That is boring. I’m suggesting that having different class identities would be better than that. But it would need a complete rework of specializations and skills. And new group content that requires a healer and / or crowd control, and needs to team to work as a team to beat it would be awesome.
@@grumpyoldman6503 At the moment every specialization can buff every weapon. That makes no sense. Have specializations that lean into certain playstyles and weapon configurations. A tank specialization that lets you use an SMG with the bulwark shield like the Div 1 gear set. Make the specializations more like those in an MMO that have effects that trigger with certain set ups. The current gear and skills have no identity at all, and I think the game would be better if they did.
@NYLCasualGaming I understand what you are getting at, and agree that's 1 way to go. I think that is what the specialization rework was intended to be a bit more like before it got canceled. My point is that if you can change "classes" at will, the lines kinda blur into "what's the point of the separation in the first place?".
I get you. It is my hope that one day we will have content that actively requires a healer, a tank, and dps. Rather than all dps. Until then, yes other classes are largely redundant. My other thought for specializations as well was that by having abilities or buffs within the skill trees that are activated with a certain playstyle you can balance specific gear around that. That way if players want to play their Strikers build on a pure dps sepcialilzation they can, but a different build will be just as viable with a different specialization. Reduces the need to buff and nerf gear all the time.
I personally think they are trying to kill the game. We (day 1 here) have enough "players" to keep the Servers going, but not enough to justify spending tons of money to create new content. Also i believe the people running DV2 have absolutely NO Interest in the Game.
If they are trying to kill the game, they'd already done it. I play since 2020 and havn't seen any new content that justify the attention and poor management Massive inflicts in this game. Once they announced Div3 they should have forget Div2, and let it be like Div1, unchanged and finishd
I don’t think they are looking to kill them game. They have a vested interest in keeping it going, and players invested, until Div 3 launches. But they are doing a bad job of that.
They are attempting to attract new players so they can then roll those players over into a new game. Now, I don't believe Division 3 is ever going to happen, but if it did you need a strong, relatively new player base in Div2 in order to move them over to Division 3.
I think the reason we don't get new content, is the same reason inventory space isn't increased, and why there can only be 12 players in a dz zone. Ubisoft refuses to spend more on hardware resources (servers).
This is one of the very best and real video I've watched lately about TD2. As you said, there are the vets and the newcomers. The biggest issue is that the vets already exploited the game from back-to-back 1000x because of the lack of new content and the newcomers, despite liking the game at first, they simply drop-off because there's no vets anymore to help 'em build up and explore the content they've never played. In summary, both vets and newcomers are leaving the game faster than the eyes can see. The vets aren't engaged and the newcomers don't have the vets to be engaged with.
the content drought happened because of serious mistakes in the division 2. darkzone was supposed to wrap around the map but ubi wanted a new pvp esport and so the thing was made broken into 3 small zones, to stop pve dark zone farmers being able to play them, to try force pvp. so us pve farmers just didnt bother because not interested in pvp and couldnt level anyway with pvp ganking and the loss of xp meaning you cant level in there. world tiers were absolutely nuked by devs. the first game was maybe too easy, but easy fix would be add world tiers with a changed, harder enemy AI or do that in division 2. instead we got 'repeat 3 strongholds to raise level, you cannot go back down if your agent just gets one shot and cant kill enemies to get gear.' and that meant a lot of pve players like me didnt dare engage with endgame in case we had to delete an agent unable to be used anymore due to not being able to equip to survive. i deleted at least one agent before moving on to other games. THIRD mistake killed the dlc for many including to me - agent imprisoned in new york behind a keener fight where someone thought it a great idea to remove your agent central identity - you couldnt use skills on him he just hijacked them and turned them on you. most UNfun fight, and whats the point being an agent if the final boss gets all the skills and you cant hijack those but you get an unfair CoD boss fight with no skill level just kill the ever healing bullet sponge after destroying something. SPECIALISATIONS: division 1 does the make your own class very well. division 2 added superweapon specialisations and defeated the purpose AND DID SO BECAUSE CALL OF DUTY PLAYERS HAVE BEEN SO BRAINWASHED THEY CANT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF NO SET CLASS. it didnt work for division agents - we just use them for bonuses they provide, nobody i see vids of actually digs out that weapon and fights with it. CoD players still werent happy with having choices and quit after moaning about 'i wanted to be a tank i dont understand this'. they cant create builds, they want them premade so they can get into the 'pvp zone' in both games - sure the darkzone in div 2 was broken so only pvp goes on sometimes, but the division 1 dz is still pvevp and so when someone hounds me there i have to explain the division ISNT CoD and what pvevp means. on those rare occasions when they keep finding me. i would play underground in division 2 but... i prefer going back to a more believable division 1 remaster. i would even buy that if they used the div 2 gear system there, and stopped benitez nagging (like the constant suggested play you have to hold button to make go away which they should remove - dont tell me im playing the game wrong and should be doing projects) to play a game mode as he does in div 1 right now to talk to Krapich about a dead mode you cant play becos... nobody plays it and forever queue.
I got to level 30 today in D2. Im super pumped especially because the game was very complex to me at 1st. I'm a big solo player, but I do find nice Dark Zone players to play with. Still struggling with groups and Clans. The game has taught me to use all resources not just unloading weapon
Congratulations! Even with all of its issues, it is still a great game. If you haven't checked out the first game, Division 1, then I would recommend that as well. It has a lot more atmosphere than this game and the story is far more relatable. There are still active player bases playing it on all platforms.
@NYLCasualGaming Thank you! And I am at 25 in the Division 1. The snow and New York are a great combo. I like my assault rifle more in D1 than D2. It just feels cooler for some reason.
@NYLCasualGaming Thanks. No I haven't got the Survival DLC. But I just looked at it. Many agree it's awesome. Do you like it? I'm hoping it makes dark zone multi-player more fun
It is nothing to do with dark zone pvp really. It is a battle Royale mixed with an extraction game mixed with a survival game. The next video I was going to work on is ‘Why Survival Was So F*cking Good’. Try it. You won’t regret it.
Whrn they create a gearset they suppose to make it feel natural like striker you get rewarded for doing what you suppose to do is shoot and not climb a ladder get a damage speed or stay in cover if 1 minute for damage buff their losing touch on how to make gearset maybe a rewark on the lady death stack only drop as a timer and if moving or sprinting it resume the stack and add to old stack
If people hadn't cried about the seasonal character model we would of had a new fun way to enjoy the game. As a result because nobody wanted it they had to rework the modifiers into the main game which is why they had to do all the rebalancing.
How is leveling a character from 1-40 new? We have done that tons of times before. It is still exactly the same content. Leveling 1-40 takes about 8 hours max. At which point you can slap on targeted loot, get your strikers build and a good AR, and you are back to the same point. So your point on rebalancing makes no sense as everyone would have had the same builds anyway. They would have just had to spend 8 tedious hours getting there. The rebalancing is more to do with forcing the player base away from a meta, not to do with the difficulty in the game. From what I have seen, the modifiers actually make the game harder due to the enemy modifiers, so the nerfs had nothing to do with this.
I liked the recent 3x and 5x XP. Not because I needed to level up but that it gave me an opportunity to collect stars to be traded in for Exotics. The Expertise system is a ludicrous grind, especially having to use hard-to-come-by exotic components to upgrade non exotic weaponry and gear. I usually accumulate 125 star during any given Global Event. Because of 5x, I stacked up 426 stars, which allowed me 21 exotic and a couple of 3 star component. Now I'm literally sitting on 175 exotics but I am reluctant to use them because...what will they nerf next? . I usually accumulate around 125 Stars in any good ven
The expertise system is really only good in a dead game where the devs aren’t adding new gear or rebalancing gear. It is too much of a time and resource sink to max out gear given that risk. I think the devs need to consider cutting the cost even more or changing how it works to being just based on usage. The current system is just flawed.
110% Agree. I honestly didn't understand it until about a year ago. I was stuck at Expertise Level 6 for a very long time. I'm now at 20-1/4 but I am in no hurry to go up any further. Thanks for the good commentary on a great but broken game.
The devs don't understand why something is meta in the division 2 it's not because it's op it's because it doesn't turn your body cold aka DEAD all of the other gear sets other than a few 5 you can't use the other ones because they are just blatantly weak and when the enemy can kill you in 3 bullets it's pretty annoying either make them glass cannons or make them deal less damage and leave their bullet sponge trait
One of the points I was going to touch on, but cut in the end, was that we have too much gear. Over the years Massive have added more and more gear and brand sets which we just don’t need. The large majority are useless and balancing them is overly complicated. It has been used as a crutch for lack of content again - make players chase gear rather than adding new content.
Up to, and including, WONY it was good. The initial problem arose when Ubisoft made the decision to shut down development on it after that. The development team has remained small even after the restart of it but if they focused on the right things I think we would see an improvement, even if on a limited scale.
The weekly / daily projects being content we have already done. And the reward is essentially a global event, something that has been in the game for many years, that lets us play the same content we have been doing for the last 6 years. You see my point?
When they create a gearset they suppose to make it feel natural like striker you get rewarded for doing what you suppose to do is shoot and not climb a ladder get a damage buff or stay in cover for 1 minute for damage buff their losing touch on how to make gearset maybe a rework on the lady death stack only drop as a timer and if moving or sprinting it resume the stack and add to old stack because it feels awkward to shoot 1 enemy the whole stacks deplete and then run away from the next enemy to build stack shoot kill run away again 😂
One of the points I was going to touch on, but cut in the end, was that we have too much gear. Over the years Massive have added more and more gear and brand sets which we just don’t need. The large majority are useless and balancing them is overly complicated. It has been used as a crutch for lack of content again - make players chase gear rather than adding new content. I think this links in to the issue you are raising. It is hard to keep adding unique pieces of gear or gearsets that are viable when the game is flooded by so many.
😂😂😂 you CLEARLY have no clue about destiny 2.. the drop off is massive. On average around 100k drop 2 weeks after xpac release. Currently it's around 300k dropped across all platforms 😂😂😂
Yes but they retain 100k in between expansions just on PC. That is significantly higher than what the Division 2 has. So clearly putting out regular new content is a bigger driver of player retention than a great new player experience.
I have not engaged with the expertise system whatsoever because its a waste of time and doesnt have a massive effect on your build, and becuase atm the only viable teamcomp in legendary missions is 3x strikers 1x cc most other gearsets were not worth using in legendary and fell flat compared to TD1 where builds and skills felt unique and worth using which is hilarious because countdown made it easier than ever to make new builds, they should return classified gearset variants and only put them in endgame content but not countdown
Agree on the Expertise system. It has much less impact than most players think. One of the points I was going to touch on, but cut in the end, was that we have too much gear. Over the years Massive have added more and more gear and brand sets which we just don’t need. The large majority are useless and balancing them is overly complicated. It has been used as a crutch for lack of content again - make players chase gear rather than adding new content. We have ended up with a lot of mediocre gear and just a few that are really good. Pulling this back to the idea of class identity again, when everyone is a dps then everyone will end up with the same build. A stronger class identity might have encouraged some diversity. I agree on classified gearsets. Those were unique and interesting.
So is it far to expect new content to be free? Ubisoft is a business after all, and businesses are not a charities. They need to make money. We have all gotten our moneys worth from the fee charged for the base game, right? Why should we expect/demand more? Its sort of like asking for free refills for life. So perhaps a business model could be developed that envisions Ubisoft developing new content (e.g. incursions, new missions, etc), and charging for that content. Each season the new content is released, the player base is charged to play that season (e.g., the season pass). If you don't play for the season pass, you don't get to play the new content. Players get new content; Ubisoft gets much needed revenues. Win-win.
I don’t think anyone would complain about paying for new content, and I’m not aware that players are expecting free content. The reality is that players have been buying the season passes and cosmetics for years so the content isn’t really free. Personally, I would like to get rid of seasons. The content isn’t new. It is tired and old and needs to be stopped. It also takes up development resources. I would much prefer to have annual or semi annual expansions that deliver true new content, and I would be happy to pay for them.
Heres my feedback NYL. Hardcore Div player here with 5k hrs in Div 2 and more in Div 1. I no longer have the desire to log in and play. They misused our loyalty to the game. They don't care and now suddenly after flopping in almost every other game they will try to pretend they care for.our support but I won't anymore. Shelving the game till the new DLC comes out and that might never come. Heck didn't even play the 5x xp event that is how demotivated they made me become.
@NYLCasualGaming I suggest you try the first decebdant. It is not Div calibar but the dev team are working hard to keep the community driven and they do listen to feedback. Feels good to be be appreciated and treated like a customer.
I've put about 150 hours into the First Descendant. I like it but it did feel very repetitive very quickly. I haven't tried the first season though so maybe it is getting better.
@NYLCasualGaming it is repetitive but the dev team is working hard on trying to make the game better. Their response is way better than Div 2 dev team and I appreciate them for it.
If they would create new content everybody would buy it the only problem is you listen to new players that does not have the stuff that the old player has so you think it's better to decrease what you have worked It's so hard for create better gear to help the new players at the same time it would help the old players but decrease in everything that they have you or going to lose players I used to buy a lot of stuff because I did not heaven now it's the same born routine over and over and I am done cannot do it anymore I agree with everything that was said in this comment
In part focusing on new players does make sense for the overall health of the game, but I hope I was able to demonstrate that games that focus more on consistent content releases do better overall. Thanks for watching.
They should change D2 over to a monthly subscription and run it like Elder Scrolls Online. Then, add new states, countries, towns, cities, weapons, etc., and get rid of the stupid fooking clothes and sh#te weapon skins.
Can someone tell me how to get Shepard status, or the system where you get rewarded for answering calls for backup? And i had no idea about specializations like demolition sniper.....Any tips for advancing trees?
In the Map under SHD you will see your shepard status. This is increased by answering calls for help and getting endorsed by the player. Make sure that you change the on call status to all so you can see all of the calls for help. For Specializations, to unlock them beyond the base three you will need to complete field research which you can see in the Specializations menu. This also provides access to some named items. Once a Specialization is unlocked, just completing activities will reward points to unlock the specialization trees further.
I am one of those players who play the Division games because they are MMO lite's. I like the pervasive characters and world. So I was always disappointed that they didn't continue to build out the Division 1's world with that game still in it. Make it more of a WoW expansion than a whole new game. But yes, I can agree with you because from the start the Division 2 dumbed down elements of the Division 1 to target a wider audience, and that killed some of the best parts of the Division 1.
Its not. it was delayed a further week yesterday so the current season is now going to be a 5 month one. If Season 2 goes to plan, we are roughly 5 months away from it still.
Not sure on that. One of the things that made Survival so good was the tension. This was driven by death ending the game. That wouldn't work with Div 3 as a whole. But yes, having that game mode in there would be a good start.
@@NYLCasualGamingI feel survival is what division should have been from the start. The risk and reward with stealth, melee and agents in the open world like resurgence would be epic. Especially a bigger reskinned deteriorated New York in winter again. Or just give us a 4k remaster div 1 😊
its a game let people have fun all this grinding online gaming is not what it used to be so i say let them haqve fun thats what gaming is supposed to be about yes cut the grind in half its a game once again let us have fun thats what gaming is about now of hardcore gamers want to 10000 og hours and not live life then play on but for us am one of them who just wants to have fun am 51 and been around gaming since Atari days and the first nintindo mike tyson punch out and mortal kombat when used to have the maschines in the chessse steak stores back in philly all am saying is just let those of us who want to have fun just enjoy the games for what they where ment for anf fun is the name of the game
Maybe. Speaking of Chinese, it’s funny that the Chinese version of the game is getting new content. Except it’s not because that version is pay to win - money = new content. 🤷🏼♂️
I wouldn't agree with that. The game was rated 82% on metacritic when it came out and was a very good game. Massive are a good developer who have created some great games. The Division 1 is still an absolutely fantastic game and who can forget Just Dance Now.
3:40 This is why I won't be returning after all these new nerfs comes to the game again. I don't have the time to waste on this game any more. I would rather give my time to games, where the developers value the players time spent, and isn't afraid to let their playbase to feel powerful.
I can’t fault you mate.
Game was perfect before the eagle bearer nerf and gear 2.0
@@souloshinobi7307 That was March 2020! Been a long time broken
Thing is, this x5 event that just finished, what were we doing all week? The same we do every week, I did about 100ish levels and just realised that I'm doing the same thing
And why did you level? Did you need the levels? Did you need the resources? Yes, it is very easy to be pulled in by FOMO to remain in a rut.
@NYLCasualGaming it just sped up the game with golden bullet. I usually play for 3 hours a day, but with GB I did all my usual stuff within 1hr 30mins and then played something else. So basically I did everything in half the time but played the game for less time. Overall I just got over level 3000 but I was level 2700ish to start. I think.
Wow it took you 100ish levels to figure that out?
@NYLCasualGaming Well I hope when you Leave the game that you don't talk anything negative about the game.
There is always something new to do in this game.
You do realize that raising issues with a game is necessary for it to get better? That if everyone just smiles and says everything is fine then nothing changes? It frustrates me that when players who clearly love the game raise concerns that the reaction is 'Just don't play it'. That is how you guarantee a game stagnates and dies.
As for always something new, tell me about one piece of new content since Paradise Lost.
I can sum up Seasons 2.0 in one word: "Nontent". It's just a low-effort maintenance reshuffle of product they've already released, in the vain hope that there's some as-yet untapped player base who's going to jump into a buggy five-year-old video game. The fact is, Star Wars Outlaws was supposed to be the new Massive title, and that wound up being a massive *TURD*.
I like it.
Vein….
I star Ghost of Tsushima awesome game finally move on from division have enough of dev ignorance,keep your nerfs,delays. Ubisoft Is finish pay ultimate price for not listening players
That is a great game! Enjoy. 🙂
Absolutely thanks big grind but hey I give 5 years of my life to Division, enough and now they blame us for delays because they constantly ignoring community opinions
I’m a The Division 1 and 2 player and I support this message.
Thank you for the support. 🙂
I was waiting for quite some time for Brooklyn DLC or some other interesting new content and I guess I finally got tired and moved on to other games.
Not sure they can or care to do something good with this game, especially given the poor condition Ubi is in currently.
Yes and no. I think they will put enough effort into the game in order to retain and even possibly increase the player base so that there is enough hype around the Division 3.
DLC has just been delayed by another week today. 🤣
Well said, but it falls on deaf ears.
Yes. I would love for there to be more open communication with the developers about the game and what they are trying to do with it. But sadly they have been very quiet on what the Brooklyn DLC will bring, let alone the future after that.
When you have thousands of options, giving up is always one of them. Just what they could do with the existing content of TD2. Kenly College, for example, an entire map, visited once and never again. They could have events take place there.
Agreed. The game did really die after WONY. We have been playing a zombie since then.
At least he is trying to be constructive and make suggestions. Maybe input with your suggestions rather than just being obnoxious to the community.
The pressure is really on now for Massive after the star wars flop. Personally I don't think will ever see the DLC or Division 3, that's one of the reasons why I moved on from the division
It is indeed. I think it will all depend if Ubisoft sees the Division franchise as core as I can see Ubisoft scaling back on non core ventures.
I can't undertand why they insist at Massive in nerfs. Don't nerf HF -they nerfed. Don't nerf TotS - they nerfd. Now Strikers, saintelmo and Scorpio. I don't want any of those! Why they can't create new content and missions?
I don’t get it either. Why balance the player rather than the content for the state of the the game. 🤷🏼♂️
nice work video there ! you're too good for this dead game man ! honesly division 3 will come out in 4 or 5 years after Tom anderson tweet today
I think that’s a reasonable timeline. Thank you!
Everything you said is 100% true.
I play Division 1 3 months after the release and I remember all the new content we use to get so when the division 2 came out I thought it was going to be similar or better but after playing the game for 5 years with the same missions I lost the excitement each time I used to login. I tried to challenge myself by doing the legendary missions solo and what the devs. did? They wiped the leaderboard. and all my clan members left the game so
at this point I am no longer interested in play same missions with a Nerf gear and weapons.
Spot on. 🙂
The *last* thing The Division needs is to start taking dead ideas from a dead genre like MMORPGs. "Class Identity" is just a cipher for "Fewer meaningful choices", and already the Division 2 is highly prescriptive in terms of build diversity because of the piss-poor job they do enabling hybrid builds with their itemization. The core problem is that their skill system has no synergy with the game's core gunplay mechanic. It is a bolted-on afterthought, a way to empower handicapped people to participate with the game's core player-base.
It's not a coincidence that the most popular skills are just passive survival abilities or fire and forget ones, like turrets or seeker mines. Sure, you can build a dedicated healer or crowd-control skill build, but healing and crowd control are meaningless if you can't kill enemies. Anything which slows down the rate at which you can neutralize enemies is a downgrade in the pace at which you accrue power.
So, rather than class identity, I'd prefer to see *real choices* offered to the player, instead of just "Maximize DPS meta". But in order to do that, they need to provide the synergy and power to hybrid builds, so that having a strong crowd control or heal component in your build doesn't come at the expense of 75% of your damage output.
The Division started out as an FPS RPG with very strong MMO vibes. However, in Division 2 it was dumbed down with many other things, the DZ for example, to ‘cater for a wider audience’. When in fact all that did was to make it lose its identity and became just like every other looter shooter. So this is not taking ideas from MMOs, this is going back to its roots and the vision that the developers originally had for the franchise.
A hybrid build is a class identity. Every MMO has hybrid classes. And wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a specialization that lean’t into that and gave it some cool features. Abilities could be ones that are triggered by the playstyle rather than active ones.
It looks like you agree that currently everything is pushed into the core gameplay mechanic. That is boring. I’m suggesting that having different class identities would be better than that. But it would need a complete rework of specializations and skills.
And new group content that requires a healer and / or crowd control, and needs to team to work as a team to beat it would be awesome.
It doesn't work when your identity is just the gear and loadout you have on at the time and you can change at will.
@@grumpyoldman6503 At the moment every specialization can buff every weapon. That makes no sense. Have specializations that lean into certain playstyles and weapon configurations. A tank specialization that lets you use an SMG with the bulwark shield like the Div 1 gear set. Make the specializations more like those in an MMO that have effects that trigger with certain set ups. The current gear and skills have no identity at all, and I think the game would be better if they did.
@NYLCasualGaming I understand what you are getting at, and agree that's 1 way to go.
I think that is what the specialization rework was intended to be a bit more like before it got canceled.
My point is that if you can change "classes" at will, the lines kinda blur into "what's the point of the separation in the first place?".
I get you. It is my hope that one day we will have content that actively requires a healer, a tank, and dps. Rather than all dps. Until then, yes other classes are largely redundant.
My other thought for specializations as well was that by having abilities or buffs within the skill trees that are activated with a certain playstyle you can balance specific gear around that. That way if players want to play their Strikers build on a pure dps sepcialilzation they can, but a different build will be just as viable with a different specialization. Reduces the need to buff and nerf gear all the time.
I personally think they are trying to kill the game. We (day 1 here) have enough "players" to keep the Servers going, but not enough to justify spending tons of money to create new content. Also i believe the people running DV2 have absolutely NO Interest in the Game.
If they are trying to kill the game, they'd already done it. I play since 2020 and havn't seen any new content that justify the attention and poor management Massive inflicts in this game. Once they announced Div3 they should have forget Div2, and let it be like Div1, unchanged and finishd
I don’t think they are looking to kill them game. They have a vested interest in keeping it going, and players invested, until Div 3 launches. But they are doing a bad job of that.
I can agree with overbuffing the specializations and giving us an insane amount of buffs and extra abilities like 8 - 9 exotic gear talents
It certainly would be interesting to see proper class identity rather than everyone being the same.
They are attempting to attract new players so they can then roll those players over into a new game. Now, I don't believe Division 3 is ever going to happen, but if it did you need a strong, relatively new player base in Div2 in order to move them over to Division 3.
I think the reason we don't get new content, is the same reason inventory space isn't increased, and why there can only be 12 players in a dz zone. Ubisoft refuses to spend more on hardware resources (servers).
Lack of Investment in the game is a big issue. Which is daft because I am sure that most players would be happy to pay for expansions to fund it.
This is one of the very best and real video I've watched lately about TD2. As you said, there are the vets and the newcomers. The biggest issue is that the vets already exploited the game from back-to-back 1000x because of the lack of new content and the newcomers, despite liking the game at first, they simply drop-off because there's no vets anymore to help 'em build up and explore the content they've never played. In summary, both vets and newcomers are leaving the game faster than the eyes can see. The vets aren't engaged and the newcomers don't have the vets to be engaged with.
Thank you. Without new content the game is in a bit of a tailspin as you say.
Im a new player but the game is boring
I think Div 1 is a better introduction to the franchise. The atmosphere was so much stronger and the game modes better.
the content drought happened because of serious mistakes in the division 2. darkzone was supposed to wrap around the map but ubi wanted a new pvp esport and so the thing was made broken into 3 small zones, to stop pve dark zone farmers being able to play them, to try force pvp. so us pve farmers just didnt bother because not interested in pvp and couldnt level anyway with pvp ganking and the loss of xp meaning you cant level in there.
world tiers were absolutely nuked by devs. the first game was maybe too easy, but easy fix would be add world tiers with a changed, harder enemy AI or do that in division 2. instead we got 'repeat 3 strongholds to raise level, you cannot go back down if your agent just gets one shot and cant kill enemies to get gear.' and that meant a lot of pve players like me didnt dare engage with endgame in case we had to delete an agent unable to be used anymore due to not being able to equip to survive. i deleted at least one agent before moving on to other games.
THIRD mistake killed the dlc for many including to me - agent imprisoned in new york behind a keener fight where someone thought it a great idea to remove your agent central identity - you couldnt use skills on him he just hijacked them and turned them on you. most UNfun fight, and whats the point being an agent if the final boss gets all the skills and you cant hijack those but you get an unfair CoD boss fight with no skill level just kill the ever healing bullet sponge after destroying something.
SPECIALISATIONS: division 1 does the make your own class very well. division 2 added superweapon specialisations and defeated the purpose AND DID SO BECAUSE CALL OF DUTY PLAYERS HAVE BEEN SO BRAINWASHED THEY CANT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF NO SET CLASS. it didnt work for division agents - we just use them for bonuses they provide, nobody i see vids of actually digs out that weapon and fights with it. CoD players still werent happy with having choices and quit after moaning about 'i wanted to be a tank i dont understand this'. they cant create builds, they want them premade so they can get into the 'pvp zone' in both games - sure the darkzone in div 2 was broken so only pvp goes on sometimes, but the division 1 dz is still pvevp and so when someone hounds me there i have to explain the division ISNT CoD and what pvevp means. on those rare occasions when they keep finding me.
i would play underground in division 2 but... i prefer going back to a more believable division 1 remaster. i would even buy that if they used the div 2 gear system there, and stopped benitez nagging (like the constant suggested play you have to hold button to make go away which they should remove - dont tell me im playing the game wrong and should be doing projects) to play a game mode as he does in div 1 right now to talk to Krapich about a dead mode you cant play becos... nobody plays it and forever queue.
We’re still doing the same missions we did in the beta. It’s time to let this game die and move on.
I got to level 30 today in D2. Im super pumped especially because the game was very complex to me at 1st. I'm a big solo player, but I do find nice Dark Zone players to play with. Still struggling with groups and Clans. The game has taught me to use all resources not just unloading weapon
Congratulations! Even with all of its issues, it is still a great game. If you haven't checked out the first game, Division 1, then I would recommend that as well. It has a lot more atmosphere than this game and the story is far more relatable. There are still active player bases playing it on all platforms.
@NYLCasualGaming Thank you! And I am at 25 in the Division 1. The snow and New York are a great combo. I like my assault rifle more in D1 than D2. It just feels cooler for some reason.
@@ParanormalHorrorArtist Nice. Glad you are enjoying it. Have you tried Survival yet?
@NYLCasualGaming Thanks. No I haven't got the Survival DLC. But I just looked at it. Many agree it's awesome. Do you like it? I'm hoping it makes dark zone multi-player more fun
It is nothing to do with dark zone pvp really. It is a battle Royale mixed with an extraction game mixed with a survival game. The next video I was going to work on is ‘Why Survival Was So F*cking Good’. Try it. You won’t regret it.
Whrn they create a gearset they suppose to make it feel natural like striker you get rewarded for doing what you suppose to do is shoot and not climb a ladder get a damage speed or stay in cover if 1 minute for damage buff their losing touch on how to make gearset maybe a rewark on the lady death stack only drop as a timer and if moving or sprinting it resume the stack and add to old stack
If people hadn't cried about the seasonal character model we would of had a new fun way to enjoy the game.
As a result because nobody wanted it they had to rework the modifiers into the main game which is why they had to do all the rebalancing.
How is leveling a character from 1-40 new? We have done that tons of times before. It is still exactly the same content.
Leveling 1-40 takes about 8 hours max. At which point you can slap on targeted loot, get your strikers build and a good AR, and you are back to the same point. So your point on rebalancing makes no sense as everyone would have had the same builds anyway. They would have just had to spend 8 tedious hours getting there.
The rebalancing is more to do with forcing the player base away from a meta, not to do with the difficulty in the game. From what I have seen, the modifiers actually make the game harder due to the enemy modifiers, so the nerfs had nothing to do with this.
I liked the recent 3x and 5x XP. Not because I needed to level up but that it gave me an opportunity to collect stars to be traded in for Exotics. The Expertise system is a ludicrous grind, especially having to use hard-to-come-by exotic components to upgrade non exotic weaponry and gear. I usually accumulate 125 star during any given Global Event. Because of 5x, I stacked up 426 stars, which allowed me 21 exotic and a couple of 3 star component. Now I'm literally sitting on 175 exotics but I am reluctant to use them because...what will they nerf next?
. I usually accumulate around 125 Stars in any good ven
The expertise system is really only good in a dead game where the devs aren’t adding new gear or rebalancing gear. It is too much of a time and resource sink to max out gear given that risk. I think the devs need to consider cutting the cost even more or changing how it works to being just based on usage. The current system is just flawed.
110% Agree. I honestly didn't understand it until about a year ago. I was stuck at Expertise Level 6 for a very long time. I'm now at 20-1/4 but I am in no hurry to go up any further. Thanks for the good commentary on a great but broken game.
D2 is a Zombie and should have been replaced by D3 years ago.
The Day After really.
The devs don't understand why something is meta in the division 2 it's not because it's op it's because it doesn't turn your body cold aka DEAD all of the other gear sets other than a few 5 you can't use the other ones because they are just blatantly weak and when the enemy can kill you in 3 bullets it's pretty annoying either make them glass cannons or make them deal less damage and leave their bullet sponge trait
One of the points I was going to touch on, but cut in the end, was that we have too much gear. Over the years Massive have added more and more gear and brand sets which we just don’t need. The large majority are useless and balancing them is overly complicated. It has been used as a crutch for lack of content again - make players chase gear rather than adding new content.
Division 2 has been going down the wrong path since year 1 lol
Up to, and including, WONY it was good. The initial problem arose when Ubisoft made the decision to shut down development on it after that. The development team has remained small even after the restart of it but if they focused on the right things I think we would see an improvement, even if on a limited scale.
Season 2.0 = weeklydaily project with wold modifier as reward but this time is in your charcter intead
The weekly / daily projects being content we have already done. And the reward is essentially a global event, something that has been in the game for many years, that lets us play the same content we have been doing for the last 6 years. You see my point?
When they create a gearset they suppose to make it feel natural like striker you get rewarded for doing what you suppose to do is shoot and not climb a ladder get a damage buff or stay in cover for 1 minute for damage buff their losing touch on how to make gearset maybe a rework on the lady death stack only drop as a timer and if moving or sprinting it resume the stack and add to old stack because it feels awkward to shoot 1 enemy the whole stacks deplete and then run away from the next enemy to build stack shoot kill run away again 😂
One of the points I was going to touch on, but cut in the end, was that we have too much gear. Over the years Massive have added more and more gear and brand sets which we just don’t need. The large majority are useless and balancing them is overly complicated. It has been used as a crutch for lack of content again - make players chase gear rather than adding new content. I think this links in to the issue you are raising. It is hard to keep adding unique pieces of gear or gearsets that are viable when the game is flooded by so many.
😂😂😂 you CLEARLY have no clue about destiny 2.. the drop off is massive. On average around 100k drop 2 weeks after xpac release. Currently it's around 300k dropped across all platforms 😂😂😂
Yes but they retain 100k in between expansions just on PC. That is significantly higher than what the Division 2 has. So clearly putting out regular new content is a bigger driver of player retention than a great new player experience.
I have not engaged with the expertise system whatsoever because its a waste of time and doesnt have a massive effect on your build, and becuase atm the only viable teamcomp in legendary missions is 3x strikers 1x cc
most other gearsets were not worth using in legendary and fell flat compared to TD1 where builds and skills felt unique and worth using
which is hilarious because countdown made it easier than ever to make new builds, they should return classified gearset variants and only put them in endgame content but not countdown
Agree on the Expertise system. It has much less impact than most players think.
One of the points I was going to touch on, but cut in the end, was that we have too much gear. Over the years Massive have added more and more gear and brand sets which we just don’t need. The large majority are useless and balancing them is overly complicated. It has been used as a crutch for lack of content again - make players chase gear rather than adding new content. We have ended up with a lot of mediocre gear and just a few that are really good.
Pulling this back to the idea of class identity again, when everyone is a dps then everyone will end up with the same build. A stronger class identity might have encouraged some diversity.
I agree on classified gearsets. Those were unique and interesting.
So is it far to expect new content to be free? Ubisoft is a business after all, and businesses are not a charities. They need to make money. We have all gotten our moneys worth from the fee charged for the base game, right? Why should we expect/demand more? Its sort of like asking for free refills for life. So perhaps a business model could be developed that envisions Ubisoft developing new content (e.g. incursions, new missions, etc), and charging for that content. Each season the new content is released, the player base is charged to play that season (e.g., the season pass). If you don't play for the season pass, you don't get to play the new content. Players get new content; Ubisoft gets much needed revenues. Win-win.
I don’t think anyone would complain about paying for new content, and I’m not aware that players are expecting free content. The reality is that players have been buying the season passes and cosmetics for years so the content isn’t really free.
Personally, I would like to get rid of seasons. The content isn’t new. It is tired and old and needs to be stopped. It also takes up development resources.
I would much prefer to have annual or semi annual expansions that deliver true new content, and I would be happy to pay for them.
Heres my feedback NYL. Hardcore Div player here with 5k hrs in Div 2 and more in Div 1. I no longer have the desire to log in and play. They misused our loyalty to the game. They don't care and now suddenly after flopping in almost every other game they will try to pretend they care for.our support but I won't anymore. Shelving the game till the new DLC comes out and that might never come. Heck didn't even play the 5x xp event that is how demotivated they made me become.
I'm with you on that. I am doing the bare minimum in the game right now until there is something worth doing.
@NYLCasualGaming I suggest you try the first decebdant. It is not Div calibar but the dev team are working hard to keep the community driven and they do listen to feedback. Feels good to be be appreciated and treated like a customer.
I've put about 150 hours into the First Descendant. I like it but it did feel very repetitive very quickly. I haven't tried the first season though so maybe it is getting better.
Playing Warhammer 40k Space Marine and Darktide a fair bit at the moment as well. And the Division 1 of course.
@NYLCasualGaming it is repetitive but the dev team is working hard on trying to make the game better. Their response is way better than Div 2 dev team and I appreciate them for it.
If they would create new content everybody would buy it the only problem is you listen to new players that does not have the stuff that the old player has so you think it's better to decrease what you have worked It's so hard for create better gear to help the new players at the same time it would help the old players but decrease in everything that they have you or going to lose players I used to buy a lot of stuff because I did not heaven now it's the same born routine over and over and I am done cannot do it anymore I agree with everything that was said in this comment
In part focusing on new players does make sense for the overall health of the game, but I hope I was able to demonstrate that games that focus more on consistent content releases do better overall. Thanks for watching.
They should change D2 over to a monthly subscription and run it like Elder Scrolls Online. Then, add new states, countries, towns, cities, weapons, etc., and get rid of the stupid fooking clothes and sh#te weapon skins.
i agree with you. i would much prefer to pay for content rather than rely on cosmetic sales.
Can someone tell me how to get Shepard status, or the system where you get rewarded for answering calls for backup? And i had no idea about specializations like demolition sniper.....Any tips for advancing trees?
In the Map under SHD you will see your shepard status. This is increased by answering calls for help and getting endorsed by the player. Make sure that you change the on call status to all so you can see all of the calls for help.
For Specializations, to unlock them beyond the base three you will need to complete field research which you can see in the Specializations menu. This also provides access to some named items. Once a Specialization is unlocked, just completing activities will reward points to unlock the specialization trees further.
@NYLCasualGaming Awesome man. Extra info is appreciated
Just here to say, it was wrong from the start.
I am one of those players who play the Division games because they are MMO lite's. I like the pervasive characters and world. So I was always disappointed that they didn't continue to build out the Division 1's world with that game still in it. Make it more of a WoW expansion than a whole new game.
But yes, I can agree with you because from the start the Division 2 dumbed down elements of the Division 1 to target a wider audience, and that killed some of the best parts of the Division 1.
If the game wasn't dead enough before, its sure is now
I suspect it will keep lurching on until Div 3 arrives with a small but active player base.
Does anyone know if this new expansion is still on schedule?
Its not. it was delayed a further week yesterday so the current season is now going to be a 5 month one. If Season 2 goes to plan, we are roughly 5 months away from it still.
Division 1 support ended too early. Division 3 needs to be division 1’s survival from the start.
Not sure on that. One of the things that made Survival so good was the tension. This was driven by death ending the game. That wouldn't work with Div 3 as a whole. But yes, having that game mode in there would be a good start.
@@NYLCasualGamingI feel survival is what division should have been from the start. The risk and reward with stealth, melee and agents in the open world like resurgence would be epic. Especially a bigger reskinned deteriorated New York in winter again. Or just give us a 4k remaster div 1 😊
Particularly given how popular survival games are right now.
its a game let people have fun all this grinding online gaming is not what it used to be so i say let them haqve fun thats what gaming is supposed to be about yes cut the grind in half its a game once again let us have fun thats what gaming is about now of hardcore gamers want to 10000 og hours and not live life then play on but for us am one of them who just wants to have fun am 51 and been around gaming since Atari days and the first nintindo mike tyson punch out and mortal kombat when used to have the maschines in the chessse steak stores back in philly all am saying is just let those of us who want to have fun just enjoy the games for what they where ment for anf fun is the name of the game
I think that is right. We need to get away from all these systems that artificially extend the life of a game and back to games that are fun.
They dont care bout ur fun, they want u spinning endlessly on that hamster wheel...
That's a good way forward great 💡
It would be good wouldn't it. Let's see what the Brooklyn DLC brings.
Dream On.. :)
More like a Nightmare.
They could reskin the NPCs as Ghost recon Breakpoint did, maybe a Chinese, Russia, invasion of DC & NY would be very cool
Maybe. Speaking of Chinese, it’s funny that the Chinese version of the game is getting new content. Except it’s not because that version is pay to win - money = new content. 🤷🏼♂️
Very bad game. Bad devs.
I wouldn't agree with that. The game was rated 82% on metacritic when it came out and was a very good game. Massive are a good developer who have created some great games. The Division 1 is still an absolutely fantastic game and who can forget Just Dance Now.