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"Help me build my strawman against you!" "No." "Well, what am I supposed to do then? Provide evidence for my assumptions?" "Yes." What Tyler was attempting to do was: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.” ― W.C. Fields
Of course they avoid the questions. These questions are looking for a logical response, and they can’t give one because holy books aren’t based on logic.
Exactly. You can take religious people's arguments for God's existence, take out God, and put anything else in there and it will remain the same arguments that people use to believe crazy shit.
@@joecoolioness6399 Yes, because if you can make yourself just believe in something first (like so many Christians urge atheists to do), then you can justify all sorts of reasons for believing in it. But it doesn't make it any more true.
If you could believe something into existence, then you should be able to show it to me... So, they can't even believe it into existence, it only exists inside of their heads or in their minds, nowhere else.
Tyler basically had a script that the person being "questioned" had to happily play along with until the "Gotcha!" reveal. It's an act. Instead of pulling the card for the magic trick, the hosts played 52 pick up and told him to clean up his mess.
@@SimonWoodburyForget except that the claim of pineapple on pizza being delicious doesn't require that if I don't believe it I'll go to pineapple hell for eternity. Confidence in claims should always either be proportional to the evidence or the consequences. I also know that "pineapple is delicious" is a trivial claim generally without agenda unless you're a pizza maker trying to hype your pizza lol
@@SimonWoodburyForget The thing is that we can easily prove that pizza exists, that pineapple exist and that anyone can put pineapple on pizza. Sadly no one has ever been able to prove that any god exists. Only after anyone is able to prove its existence, then we can proceed to check if putting a god on pizza is delicious or not. This kind of bait and switch is quite common on wannabe apologists, that is why they have the need to tapdance once you pin them up with the basic standards of logic.
“OF COURSE I believe that a “god” “created” everything and interacts with his creation” What is a “god”? How can we demonstrate that to everyone outside yourself?” How did it “create” anything? “Why do I have to show evidence for something I’m claiming as 100% true?!” Because how can we know you’re telling the truth? If you are then show it! “Well I just came to say you guys are irrational for questioning me”
When a theist caller listens to an explanation from one of the hosts then responds with "[pause] OK" you know it's gone right over their tiny, jammed up, befuddled mind.
"I was trying to do it as efficiently as I could"... Yeah, because asking a bunch of yes/no questions with unclear definitions is so much more efficient than just asking the hosts what their position is... Very believable /s. What you were trying to do is get them to answer yes on what you think was a gotcha, while really just being a problem in your propositions...
What Tyler wanted to say is if you don't accept matter as physical evidence for God, then you can't ask for physical evidence for God. I have no idea why he didn't just say that, but that was his point, if we ignore his unnecessary preamble.
He was trying to "poison the well". Since he is not used to those he is speaking to being educated in logic, reasoning, and critical thinking, he was confused as to why it wasnt working.
God botherers. Not only do they waste everyone’s time and oxygen, they have the right to vote. And they are voting for every step that will lead to a theocratic state. Scared yet?
Agreed. I mean the only way any of these absurd arguments even stand a chance against in conversations is if they come in with a script. If you just understand my myopic definitions of god! Basic logic alone defeats the "bald-ass assertions" every time.
Christians are so focused on insisting that God exists that they don't consider that their same claims for their god also apply to every other deity... If faith is evidence, it's universal to all beliefs.
@@hosannapraisegod9286 - I never said Christians are "trying to prove God exist" [SIC]. I said they're "insisting that God exists". If you don't understand the difference, my concern is how well you understand the language of the Bible.
Matt's ability to rapidly understand these nonsense arguments is astonishing & beautiful. I get befuddled. But that's the aim of religionists, isn't it?
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing. Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 First, we have observable evidence all around us that things can be created without an intelligent designer. Plants produce leaves, seeds, fruit and other things without being intelligent. Volcanos and other geologic processes produce rocks and other natural substances without intelligence. Natural chemical processes change molecules from one type into a different type of molecule constantly all around us. And so on. Now, I can already hear you typing that there is an intelligent being behind all of this. What evidence do you have of this intelligence? Saying that it exists or that you believe it exists is not evidence that it does exist. The question is what makes you believe that it does exist? I believe that an intelligent designer is not needed because I observe all around me things that are created without a need for an intelligent designer. Why do you believe that one is required? Second, the rest of your point (to the best of my understanding) is that there is an immensely (or all) powerful being that did all of this and all that is required to believe this power is the truth is to believe it exists. In other words, evidence doesn't matter, if you believe it's the truth then you will believe it's the truth. Personally, I have an issue with believing "just because." I do not mean to denigrate your belief with this, I just personally have a problem with believing something simply because the idea exists and someone told me it was the truth. I would like to know why I should believe it or what reasons the other person has for believing it. Also, I would ask this: If we accept that there must be some intelligent designer, how do you know that your version of that intelligent designer is the correct one? There are thousands (millions or more if you dig into specifics) of beliefs out there about various gods or creators out there. Many of these contradict each other and say that if you believe anything else, even to the point of believing all but 1 or 2 minor differences, you will be punished eternally. Why do you believe that your version is the correct one? I apologize for the wall of text, but if you have honest, thoughtful answers to any of my questions I would love to hear them
@@talpine1225 Faith, that's all it took for me. Also looking at a Bengal tiger I thought to myself, thought for myself. This beautiful animal could not have just come into existence from particles that were caused by a big bang. That is ludicrous.
@@paulgemme6056 To summarize, I asked why you believe intelligent design is required and, if it is required, why you believe your version of the design is correct. Your answer to those questions, as far as I can understand and if you are indeed answering my questions, is that you cannot see how our universe could progress from the big bang to the existence Bengal tigers (as an example, obviously), thus you believe in your version of a creator. It follows then that if someone could demonstrate a reasonable, believable progression of steps that could start with the big bang and lead to Bengal tigers, then that belief would be forced into question. Whether or not this explanation is the truth, there would then be another believable explanation of why Bengal tigers exist other than that they were created. At this point what is there to convince me of one explanation (a creator) over another (natural, unguided processes)? Why should I believe in your version over the other? To depart from the hypothetical, there is evidence, observable and replicable, of many of the steps in the explanation of how the universe likely progressed from the big bang to how it is now through natural processes. There are also good explanations for the pieces that we don't have direct evidence for that continue to match up with how we see reality working as we continue to learn about it. There is far too much to go into to cover the specifics here, but the explanations and evidence are there to find if you go looking for them. Thus, the argument that it's unreasonable to believe that, for example, a Bengal tiger came about naturally, when these reasonable explanations exist, really falls apart. My questions from before then still remain: Why do you believe in intelligent design and in your version of it in particular? To put it another way, why is it ludicrous to believe that what we see around us came about unguided based on lifetimes worth of evidence and supportable explanations instead of believing in a creator (setting aside the question of then which creator is the correct one)? Again, I apologize for the walls of text, but these are complex questions.
@@talpine1225 My answer to both those questions is faith and common sense. For me to believe that a piece of wood left on a workbench long enough would one day become a guitar, doesn't fly. There has to be a designer and a builder/maker. An eyeball is so complex it would have to take a master designer and builder/maker for something like that work the way it does. I believe in that/my maker with every part of my being. I have felt the force of his power/Love, which I cannot see. Just like I can feel the force of gravity when I fall off a latter, which I can not see. I don't have to see gravity to know it exists.
“Why do I have to show evidence?” So long as you have no intention to be taken seriously, there's no need to show any evidence at all. And so long as you have no intention to show any evidence at all, there's no need for anybody to take you seriously.
@@TheSufferBrothers2 I mean....thats basically the argument when you ask about the many, MANY other gods that have been invented over the years and point out that their arguments are just as good at proving them. Its the equivalent of that kid in Primary School and his everything proof shield.
@@marcusreading3783 Oh yeah, we had a kid like that at our school. "I do have a girlfriend - you wouldn't know her, she goes to another school". And the same principle applied to that kid as applies here - you don't have to provide evidence that your girlfriend / god / dragon is real, so long as you don't want to be taken seriously. My unicorn is real though. You wouldn't know her, she lives in a different town.
I love how the caller had moments of pause and clearing his throat. He literally didn’t know what to say when Dave and Matt fired back at him. Would love to have a beer with Matt/Dave one day. Good stuff! 👍🏼
I've had a beer or 2 with Matt. Convention pub crawl. Made him a balloon hat. He wore it. I had pix. I lost the (device with the) pix. So maybe it didn't happen.
I find it funny that these callers dont realize that if their god does exist then he is trolling them hard. Either he encourages them to call in and embarrass themselves, or he doesnt stop them from embarrassing themselves. You would think that a god that carries the traits these people believe would be able to pick his best and brightest apologists to call in. Yet the only ones that show up are not competent enough to be alternates of team failure.
Right said God. I am the creator of time, the universe and humanity. But I can't be bothered explaining myself so will you represent me on TH-cam tonight? Or rather these people think they can represent God, arrogance or what?
It's not difficult to spot cattle chute apologetics, and Tyler is not a bit subtle about fishing for a gotcha question. He's not reading from a script, so much as a flowchart.
Growing up in the South and yet not being hugely familiar with cattle chutes directly, the use of that expression to describe this kind of apologetics is quite apropos
Facts don’t care about your faith…. I really don’t know how the heros of the “Atheist Experience” can keep repeating this in different ways, for years, without going crazy…
Pictures don't change with insults either. G is an incomplete whole with one square angle drawn in Earth. O is a Whole measure. D is a split whole with two square angles drawn in Earth. Sacrificed, Holy measured.
And because disproving God to the point of 100% watertight is impossible in much the same way as disproving leprechauns to the point of 100% watertight is impossible. They have to milk that unfalsiability armour for more than it's worth.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing. Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 You made a positive claim that "In order for anything to be made, it takes an intelligent designer." Unproven assertion. It might be true or it might not be. There's no proof. It's like someone saying "There's life on Europa." Unproven. You can't build a story on this without proving it.
"Can we assume that this is an adequate definition for God?" No! Why would we assume that? It's just something that human beings have made up out of whole cloth and stapled specific characteristics onto their imaginary friend without actually demonstrating that any of it has any validity in reality. This is why they are limited to these absurd philosophical arguments because they have absolutely nothing of value to say. It's the one thing that these people simply can't get through their heads. You can't just define your deity into existence!
@@chuckybang it also doesn't prove it. You're whole "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" isn't a sufficient reason to embrace something as true. Afterall, there's absence of evidence for lots of things, including, invisible 5 headed dragons at the centers of all galaxies. Doesn't mean that they don't exist there.....should I then accept it as true merely because "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence"? Nonsense!
@@hosannapraisegod9286 you are right if everyone believed like me their probably wouldn't be The Atheist Experience to enjoy.however thanks for the comment cheers Mick.
Watching Matt and the dude back and forth was so confusing but theist was definitely reading a script, Matt was so fast to follow along and unpick their tongue twister and be able to use it back at him with deadly precision.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing. Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@pmtoner9852 Wrong. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. A lot of people think they know better than God/Jesus Christ. Man is finite (limited), God/Jesus Christ/the Holy Spirit is not. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Jesus said, "Blessed are they who have not seen, yet believe" (have faith). Without it one will never please or see/know God.
@@pmtoner9852 At a very young age, I saw all around me so much evil, hatred, cruelty, bitterness, anger, revenge that I began think critically. Because of my critical thinking I discovered that there is place where there is no evil, hatred, cruelty, bitterness, anger, revenge, etc. Absent from the body present with the Lord. This world (wicked, evil world) is not my home. Just telling as many people as I can about the treasure I have found. His name Is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the King of Glory! My forever home.
The most astounding thing to me to this day is that these otherwise "intelligent" people who supposedly have reasoning capabilities can perform astounding mental gymnastics and circular reasoning that a 4 year old would use to argue with their parents and somehow still think they have a valid argument or premise...
These are people whom asked questions as children (because all of their assertions are childish and the sort even a child would question) and got fed bullshit for answers. They accepted those answers from their authority figures and never learned to question them. Indeed, most often they are discouraged from asking questions. Went forced to confront the things they were told to believe and question them, they shy away because it requires the thinking they were discouraged from and threatens to take away the foundation of solid answers they believe they were given.
Eight Minutes and Twenty Three seconds into the Video, Tyler gets to the question he actually wanted to ask, but wasted ALL of our times by running through his preamble and nonsense questions first, this is EXACTLY what they told him to do at the beginning of the video.
I'm also embarrassed for Tyler as he seems to be an adult who cannot follow a simple logical thought process. I hope that Tyler has not graduated from a college without some proficiency in critical thinking.
@sal - Logic is essential to determine that the talking serpent (it wasn’t a snake) would have been most likely allegorical. Logic also would indicate that we have no idea whether the serpent ‘talking’ was even audible. Logic would suggest that it’s possible the ‘talking’ was a temptation of thought. Temptation always begins in our mind, as a thought.
Most will not agree with me but I consider Matt to be the most patient radio personality during the decade or two. I would have hung up on 99% of the callers in less than 60 seconds. The rest at 150 seconds.
That Matt is more patient than you does not mean that he's more patient than every other "radio personality" for the last couple of decades. He's obviously not as patient as a number of the other hosts on AXP.
Sadly, matt has been losing his limits of patient since some time ago. I guess that is normal after expending so much time listening to the same baseless theist assertions.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing. Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
I do disagree. I enjoy Matt destroying a professional in a debate format and generally agree with everything he says regarding these topics but for many of these calls he won't let the caller get to their main point because he is so picky about not letting any nonsensical argument go. I get that he doesn't want to let people spew their nonsense forever but he needs to be able to let them make their main point.... then tell them why they are wrong. Dave Warnock tried to get this caller to say their main point a few times. Matt is also so knowledgeable and such a dominant force that he often overshadows his co-host. So, he knows his stuff but he gets so aggressive with the callers, wanting them to speak properly that he won't let them get to the point. Most callers are not comfortable in a debate format and cannot argue their beliefs to a debating level. They simply hold a belief that they can't believe others don't agree with.
I find it interesting that theist callers seem unfamiliar with the basics of logic and they can get overly hostile when asked for evidence to support their claims.
Whoa! Thank you for the reference to 1st Peter, 3:15. I so often encounter theists who will simply refuse to address any issues I raise or answer questions I pose because they'll accuse me of being insincere, of hating god, of not having been touched by the holy spirit, and on and on, even quoting OTHER parts of the Bible that says the believer shouldn't waste their time with "people like me". Now, thanks to your reference to 1st Peter, 3:15 I at least have a response to that, saying "But wait, 1st Peter 3:15 TELLS YOU to answer my questions, are you going to disobey what the Bible says??" :)
No one follows God's word the bible because they have not been taught the truth. Who are the true Christians today that 1 Peter 3:15 matters? When others demanded that a Christian where to give a reason for his hope, he was to do so “with a mild temper and deep respect .” Though questions might be propounded in an insulting manner, the Christian would present his reasons with calmness and gentleness. A true Christian is not cowed because of fear of men nor is he a pacifist. The Christian should take as an example the angels, who, though greater in strength and power, never present accusations in abusive terms.-2Pe 2:11.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing. Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 all your BS comments have been totally debunked .maybe you should watch the videos rather than pausing and going straight to the comments .
@@Grande.biggly All the videos are about the same thing over and over again. How God/Jesus does not exist. I just plant seeds (gospel seeds) about the good news. If the seeds fall on good soil (a humble heart) then the seed may take root and grow, grow and produce fruit ( share the good news).
It really was. They can't find enough hoops to jump through to believe this insane nonsense. It is scary to witness what theism does to the human brain.
No matter what this gentleman says or how he words it does not make god exist. These bizarre word games are just silly. In all of his questions you could just take out the word god and put in the word “nature.”
It's funny how religious types very often argue that there must be a God and an after-world otherwise what is the meaning/purpose of life. Of course, those same people wouldn't dream of applying the same "meaning of life" argument to say, the existence of a mouse...or even a dog...or ape.
oooouuu....that gets interesting. Can an all powerful being make himself not exist? Can he create the universe while not existing? Can he bring himself into existence from nothing?
God is supposedly the greatest possible being. A God that does not exist & can create everything is obviously greater than a God that exists & can create everything. Therefore God does not exist.
For all we know, the big bang was a god that exploded and we're living in its corpse. Could satisfy Matt's idea of it no longer "existing" and yet still creating everything. It was frustrating listening to the caller failing to understand the hole in his logic even when it was explained to him.
That's possible. It's equally possible that something else happened, some natural process not involving a god, and we're living in its "corpse" or better to say residue of that natural process. The Cosmic Microwave Background radiation would probably be a good example that sort of residue. (If we instead had found the skeleton of some huge dragon spread across billions of light years of space, we'd be trying to figure that out instead. But, significantly, that's not at all the sort of thing we find. Instead we see remnants of simple and energetically plausible, but still amazing, physical processes. We don't see mythic creatures.) The CMB is certainly a kind of "corpse" and we don't even have to speculate about its existence. It's an evidential fact. Though I doubt that it answers everything, still, a lot of work has gone into mapping its structure, in hope of gaining insight into some meaningful feature of the early universe. Alas, this sort of careful, data-driven, forward inquiry into the true origins of the universe are not what the caller wants to engage with. He's already got his "answer": now all he has to do is come up with some way to justify it. Too bad that honest investigation doesn't work that way.
The CRAZY thing is I use to believe in CRAZY religion/god. I just gave the nonsense a pass until I really did an examination and quit blindly following along.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing. Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
You know, if I had dance around with all kinds of hypotheticals and what-ifs and pseudo philosophy in order to justify my position, I would seriously consider re-examining my beliefs.
Eh. I don’t really mind. I use capitol letters for fictional characters sometimes. Sometimes I’m lazy and I don’t. I like to use capitol G when talking with believers, because it’s just one more way you can be courteous without conceding anything.
@@TrettinR - That name was withdrawn from use in about 500 BC. There are several other names mentioned as well, but there are rules associated with them once used. That's why they just use "God" now... because that makes perfect sense, right?
The secret to life the universe and everything, is a dirty little secret. It's that there is no secret and everything that exists fulfills its purpose. It's about the journey, not the destination.
Just because something exists doesn't make it evidence for your claim or proposition. Facts can be evidence for one thing but not evidence for some other things.
I would have asked for his definition of real, because it seems to me real means actually manifesting in physical reality. How was God real, manifesting in physical reality, prior to creating physical reality?
I've seen a few instances elsewhere. Their arguments are still uniformly fallacious, but the packaging is more professional. And absolutely nothing new is ever offered in the way of meaningful insight. It's quite sad, really, to find that all that scholarship has produced nothing better. Common themes are: • You don't understand the subtleties and sophistication of faith. Alas, it would take too long to explain. (Mumbo jumbo fallacy.) • You haven't sincerely tried to believe. (Peter Pan fallacy.) • Claiming the moral high ground, on no evidence. Also, shaming. (Old school, but still very effective on survivors of religious abuse.) • Various forms of Strawman Fallacy. (It seems that even among educated professionals, this is still just too irresistible not to try, even though it invariably backfires.) • Various forms of Appeal to Emotion. (This works for the flock but somehow doesn't have as much traction with skeptics. As the difference of opinion becomes uncomfortable, can morph into "let's ease this conflict and find common ground by having you compromise.") • Various forms of Appeal to Utility. ("Think of all the good that is done in the name of our religion, and how it couldn't conceivably be done simply for its own sake.") • Various attempts to shift the burden of proof. (Often disguised within a Strawman, but still fairly easy to call out.) • Affirming the consequent. (Usually introduced as a "hypothetical" which will later be quietly converted into a certainty.) • Various Equivocation Fallacies. (Typically on faith, but also on purpose, creation, morality, consciousness, information, communication.)
I would ask Tyler is this argument the reason you are a theist? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no!!!! I never understand how they think these lame arguments are evidence for God's, the trees are no evidence for any God's and neither is his lame argument...🤗🤗🤗
"I'd like simple true-or-false responses! If x doesn't exist, then y didn't come from x." "False. x might have stopped existing after y happened." "Ah, but this x doesn't work like that. This is a special x." "Why?" "... ... The Bible?" "Back to school with thee."
We don’t really know that for sure, « creation » doesn’t necessarily apply as a concept. Just as time, did it « start » at some point? At some point all matter in the universe was concentrated at one point but we can’t really explore anything « before » that. At least for now.
@MattDillahunty 1:50 Exactly! That is my favorite kind of Goddess: Disposablia, the Goddess that sacrificed her life so this universe could exist (Because of mysterious reasons we will never comprehend). She gave us this universe, with NO gods (and blocks the tiring arguments hijacking the universe, life, morality, or whatever, to credit the god of their choosing ). Blessed be Her!
Good lord. Listening to that guy give his argument was like listening to a small child tell you a story. He could have given that argument of his in 2 minutes.
For all the Christian trolls clicking on The Atheist Experience videos in order to comment in the comment section, thank you. It helps the algorithm so that these videos are recommended more. That way Christians and other theists are more likely to watch these videos and deconvert. It also helps other atheists feel less isolated so they don't wind up converting in order to just have community. It really grows the Atheist community!
Maybe, one day, we will have the power to keep Christians from imposing laws and customs which benefit Christians from American society, all thanks to you of course.😘 With your help, we can ensure that the next generation does not become indoctrinated into Christian theology. That way they can focus more on science and, as many of you say, make America great. Christianity and other mythologies can finally die out and be put to rest in the halls of history were they belong.
"Help me build my strawman against you!"
"No."
"Well, what am I supposed to do then? Provide evidence for my assumptions?"
"Yes."
What Tyler was attempting to do was:
“If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.” ― W.C. Fields
Tyler was sitting nude in the middle of the floor, eating paste, with most of a bowl of spaghetti in his hair
Theists are so bloody dishonest. Just answer the question instead of misdirecting, misleading, dodging, ducking, diving and outright avoiding.
You forgot the second dodging
Atheists are far more dishonest than most theists
Classic shifting of burden of proof
They have no answers, only stories
Of course they avoid the questions. These questions are looking for a logical response, and they can’t give one because holy books aren’t based on logic.
The faithful can simply believe anything into existence. No evidence needed.
Exactly. You can take religious people's arguments for God's existence, take out God, and put anything else in there and it will remain the same arguments that people use to believe crazy shit.
Great point!
@@dx1450 Also a great point! Which is why Matt always talks about faith not being a good path to truth.
@@joecoolioness6399 Yes, because if you can make yourself just believe in something first (like so many Christians urge atheists to do), then you can justify all sorts of reasons for believing in it. But it doesn't make it any more true.
If you could believe something into existence, then you should be able to show it to me... So, they can't even believe it into existence, it only exists inside of their heads or in their minds, nowhere else.
Tyler basically had a script that the person being "questioned" had to happily play along with until the "Gotcha!" reveal. It's an act. Instead of pulling the card for the magic trick, the hosts played 52 pick up and told him to clean up his mess.
“Tyler, you are literally too stupid to insult”.
Tyler - “Thank you”.
Props to The Hangover.
“Why do I have to show you evidence?”
It’s called logic. The burden of proof. Adults know they’re expected to prove their claims.
You don't unless you're trying to convince me to take you seriously.
@@SimonWoodburyForget except that the claim of pineapple on pizza being delicious doesn't require that if I don't believe it I'll go to pineapple hell for eternity. Confidence in claims should always either be proportional to the evidence or the consequences. I also know that "pineapple is delicious" is a trivial claim generally without agenda unless you're a pizza maker trying to hype your pizza lol
@@SimonWoodburyForget The thing is that we can easily prove that pizza exists, that pineapple exist and that anyone can put pineapple on pizza. Sadly no one has ever been able to prove that any god exists.
Only after anyone is able to prove its existence, then we can proceed to check if putting a god on pizza is delicious or not.
This kind of bait and switch is quite common on wannabe apologists, that is why they have the need to tapdance once you pin them up with the basic standards of logic.
Actually most adults don't know that, most of them are religious
“OF COURSE I believe that a “god” “created” everything and interacts with his creation”
What is a “god”? How can we demonstrate that to everyone outside yourself?” How did it “create” anything?
“Why do I have to show evidence for something I’m claiming as 100% true?!”
Because how can we know you’re telling the truth? If you are then show it!
“Well I just came to say you guys are irrational for questioning me”
When a theist caller listens to an explanation from one of the hosts then responds with "[pause] OK" you know it's gone right over their tiny, jammed up, befuddled mind.
@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 I don't care what the bible says.
@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 “according to the Bible”, why should that matter?
@@drg8687 hit and run deleted comments? They don't seem very sure of themselves do they?
@@coffeetalk924 I have no idea what that means.
@@drg8687 "pastorpete...." must have left a comment for you to have responded no? His hit and run comment has been deleted no?
"I was trying to do it as efficiently as I could"...
Yeah, because asking a bunch of yes/no questions with unclear definitions is so much more efficient than just asking the hosts what their position is... Very believable /s.
What you were trying to do is get them to answer yes on what you think was a gotcha, while really just being a problem in your propositions...
Tyler sounds like a politician. He can’t say anything without giving a 10-minute preamble.💩
Right. Let me give you the speech before the speech.
@@coffeetalk924 Let me give you a speech about how you can’t trust anyone but me before I answer your question about what a “god” is.
What Tyler wanted to say is if you don't accept matter as physical evidence for God, then you can't ask for physical evidence for God. I have no idea why he didn't just say that, but that was his point, if we ignore his unnecessary preamble.
He was trying to "poison the well". Since he is not used to those he is speaking to being educated in logic, reasoning, and critical thinking, he was confused as to why it wasnt working.
so incredibly dishonest. he knows he has no evidence.
God botherers. Not only do they waste everyone’s time and oxygen, they have the right to vote. And they are voting for every step that will lead to a theocratic state. Scared yet?
IM GOING TO VOTE NO WHEN YOU NEED A DRINK OF WATER DOWN THERE (HELL) 😉
@@timsmith530 Hell = More fairy tales for dimwit theists.
@@timsmith530 I'm sure Jesus would be proud.
"God botherers" gotta love the Heinlein reference!
@@timsmith530 No lie, you are a terrible person.
The second you stop people from tap dancing around issues and nail them to the wall and get them off script they completely fall apart every time
I'm sure that Tyler thinks he's smart when he presents his argument to people that are too nice to tell him how stupid his argument is.
@@AllThroughALife “Hey that’s nice Tyler. Listen I gotta go talk to you later.” And in his own head Tyler claims victory.
@@ejflor1313 - It's a win-win... Tyler think he's right and everyone else saves the time of listening to him spout nonsense.
Dont you mean nail them to a cross? 😂
Agreed. I mean the only way any of these absurd arguments even stand a chance against in conversations is if they come in with a script.
If you just understand my myopic definitions of god! Basic logic alone defeats the "bald-ass assertions" every time.
In the UK, we would call these callers ''what a load of wankers!''
We call them dildos down under or god felchers
We say “they talk a load of bollocks!”, also from the UK. 😂
Tyler wasn’t trying to have a conversation. He was trying to give a sermon.😈
Christians are so focused on insisting that God exists that they don't consider that their same claims for their god also apply to every other deity... If faith is evidence, it's universal to all beliefs.
It's all special pleading why their god exists but no others do.
@@dx1450 - Exactly... people who can't distinguish between opinion and fact.
I pray to them all just to be safe.
No our focus is on Jesus Christ not trying to prove God exist.
@@hosannapraisegod9286 - I never said Christians are "trying to prove God exist" [SIC]. I said they're "insisting that God exists". If you don't understand the difference, my concern is how well you understand the language of the Bible.
Matt's ability to rapidly understand these nonsense arguments is astonishing & beautiful.
I get befuddled.
But that's the aim of religionists, isn't it?
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing.
Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 First, we have observable evidence all around us that things can be created without an intelligent designer. Plants produce leaves, seeds, fruit and other things without being intelligent. Volcanos and other geologic processes produce rocks and other natural substances without intelligence. Natural chemical processes change molecules from one type into a different type of molecule constantly all around us. And so on.
Now, I can already hear you typing that there is an intelligent being behind all of this. What evidence do you have of this intelligence? Saying that it exists or that you believe it exists is not evidence that it does exist. The question is what makes you believe that it does exist? I believe that an intelligent designer is not needed because I observe all around me things that are created without a need for an intelligent designer. Why do you believe that one is required?
Second, the rest of your point (to the best of my understanding) is that there is an immensely (or all) powerful being that did all of this and all that is required to believe this power is the truth is to believe it exists. In other words, evidence doesn't matter, if you believe it's the truth then you will believe it's the truth. Personally, I have an issue with believing "just because." I do not mean to denigrate your belief with this, I just personally have a problem with believing something simply because the idea exists and someone told me it was the truth. I would like to know why I should believe it or what reasons the other person has for believing it.
Also, I would ask this: If we accept that there must be some intelligent designer, how do you know that your version of that intelligent designer is the correct one? There are thousands (millions or more if you dig into specifics) of beliefs out there about various gods or creators out there. Many of these contradict each other and say that if you believe anything else, even to the point of believing all but 1 or 2 minor differences, you will be punished eternally. Why do you believe that your version is the correct one?
I apologize for the wall of text, but if you have honest, thoughtful answers to any of my questions I would love to hear them
@@talpine1225 Faith, that's all it took for me. Also looking at a Bengal tiger I thought to myself, thought for myself. This beautiful animal could not have just come into existence from particles that were caused by a big bang. That is ludicrous.
@@paulgemme6056 To summarize, I asked why you believe intelligent design is required and, if it is required, why you believe your version of the design is correct. Your answer to those questions, as far as I can understand and if you are indeed answering my questions, is that you cannot see how our universe could progress from the big bang to the existence Bengal tigers (as an example, obviously), thus you believe in your version of a creator.
It follows then that if someone could demonstrate a reasonable, believable progression of steps that could start with the big bang and lead to Bengal tigers, then that belief would be forced into question. Whether or not this explanation is the truth, there would then be another believable explanation of why Bengal tigers exist other than that they were created. At this point what is there to convince me of one explanation (a creator) over another (natural, unguided processes)? Why should I believe in your version over the other?
To depart from the hypothetical, there is evidence, observable and replicable, of many of the steps in the explanation of how the universe likely progressed from the big bang to how it is now through natural processes. There are also good explanations for the pieces that we don't have direct evidence for that continue to match up with how we see reality working as we continue to learn about it. There is far too much to go into to cover the specifics here, but the explanations and evidence are there to find if you go looking for them.
Thus, the argument that it's unreasonable to believe that, for example, a Bengal tiger came about naturally, when these reasonable explanations exist, really falls apart. My questions from before then still remain: Why do you believe in intelligent design and in your version of it in particular? To put it another way, why is it ludicrous to believe that what we see around us came about unguided based on lifetimes worth of evidence and supportable explanations instead of believing in a creator (setting aside the question of then which creator is the correct one)?
Again, I apologize for the walls of text, but these are complex questions.
@@talpine1225 My answer to both those questions is faith and common sense. For me to believe that a piece of wood left on a workbench long enough would one day become a guitar, doesn't fly. There has to be a designer and a builder/maker. An eyeball is so complex it would have to take a master designer and builder/maker for something like that work the way it does. I believe in that/my maker with every part of my being. I have felt the force of his power/Love, which I cannot see. Just like I can feel the force of gravity when I fall off a latter, which I can not see. I don't have to see gravity to know it exists.
"You want me to just ask my question?" 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Tyler really seemed confident that he had something. He didn't have anything.
“Why do I have to show evidence?”
So long as you have no intention to be taken seriously, there's no need to show any evidence at all.
And so long as you have no intention to show any evidence at all, there's no need for anybody to take you seriously.
I have a pet dragon living in my back yard, but I don't have to show any evidence of it. Now I expect everyone to believe that I have a pet dragon.
@@dx1450
I have a unicorn that says your dragon is bullshit.
This could get complicated.
@@TheSufferBrothers2 Oh yeah? Prove it! Oh wait, you don't have to...
@@TheSufferBrothers2 I mean....thats basically the argument when you ask about the many, MANY other gods that have been invented over the years and point out that their arguments are just as good at proving them. Its the equivalent of that kid in Primary School and his everything proof shield.
@@marcusreading3783
Oh yeah, we had a kid like that at our school. "I do have a girlfriend - you wouldn't know her, she goes to another school".
And the same principle applied to that kid as applies here - you don't have to provide evidence that your girlfriend / god / dragon is real, so long as you don't want to be taken seriously.
My unicorn is real though. You wouldn't know her, she lives in a different town.
I love how the caller had moments of pause and clearing his throat. He literally didn’t know what to say when Dave and Matt fired back at him. Would love to have a beer with Matt/Dave one day. Good stuff! 👍🏼
It’s good that he pauses. That means he’s listening, and most of the time he was. He was answering, not just continuing his script.
I've had a beer or 2 with Matt. Convention pub crawl. Made him a balloon hat.
He wore it. I had pix. I lost the (device with the) pix.
So maybe it didn't happen.
He’s not thinking he’s trying to find what Matt said on the script so he can give the counter that the script says to.
I find it funny that these callers dont realize that if their god does exist then he is trolling them hard. Either he encourages them to call in and embarrass themselves, or he doesnt stop them from embarrassing themselves.
You would think that a god that carries the traits these people believe would be able to pick his best and brightest apologists to call in. Yet the only ones that show up are not competent enough to be alternates of team failure.
Right said God. I am the creator of time, the universe and humanity. But I can't be bothered explaining myself so will you represent me on TH-cam tonight? Or rather these people think they can represent God, arrogance or what?
If Tyler were going to drive from New York to Miami, he'd go by way of California.
13:56 Well done, Dave, for summing up this entire call with just two words: "Pretzel logic"! 🏆
Once I heard 'necessarily' this turned into a presuppositional argument.
It's not difficult to spot cattle chute apologetics, and Tyler is not a bit subtle about fishing for a gotcha question. He's not reading from a script, so much as a flowchart.
That's what the whole true/false question premise was about. He was hoping to snare them in a gotcha question.
Growing up in the South and yet not being hugely familiar with cattle chutes directly, the use of that expression to describe this kind of apologetics is quite apropos
When they begin with “I don’t want to waste any time…” you know they are about to do a preamble from stupid-town.
This callers laughter...speaks volumes
Nervous laughter with moments of smug laughter, a sign of someone whom is confident in their delusions and scared to examine them.
Facts don’t care about your faith…. I really don’t know how the heros of the “Atheist Experience” can keep repeating this in different ways, for years, without going crazy…
Pictures don't change with insults either.
G is an incomplete whole with one square angle drawn in Earth.
O is a Whole measure.
D is a split whole with two square angles drawn in Earth.
Sacrificed, Holy measured.
You know why theists call in wanting Matt and his co-host to DISprove God? Because they all know, deep down, they can't PROVE God.
Yep. If they could they would, and wouldn’t bother asking people to validate their personal feelings on a matter of fact.
And because disproving God to the point of 100% watertight is impossible in much the same way as disproving leprechauns to the point of 100% watertight is impossible. They have to milk that unfalsiability armour for more than it's worth.
Yeah, if you can't prove the things you believe, then try switching the burden of proof. "Well, you can't prove it's NOT true!"
They don't have 1 piece of evidence for any god, let alone proof of their god.
The deity concept is indeterminate. Perhaps a unknowable unknown, describes this...
Once upon a time, this kind of person had the power to execute anyone who disagreed with their nonsense "logic" at any stage.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing.
Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 You made a positive claim that "In order for anything to be made, it takes an intelligent designer." Unproven assertion. It might be true or it might not be. There's no proof. It's like someone saying "There's life on Europa." Unproven. You can't build a story on this without proving it.
"Can we assume that this is an adequate definition for God?" No! Why would we assume that? It's just something that human beings have made up out of whole cloth and stapled specific characteristics onto their imaginary friend without actually demonstrating that any of it has any validity in reality. This is why they are limited to these absurd philosophical arguments because they have absolutely nothing of value to say. It's the one thing that these people simply can't get through their heads. You can't just define your deity into existence!
He was presupposing a god. And then, clearly, he was trying to get around the Burden of Proof problem he has.
"Hahaha, you can't disprove god..." lmfao
You can't disprove the claim of invisible pixies in my grandmothers garden
I can..................WHERE THE FUCK IS HE!!!!!!!!!
Absence of your perception of God does not disprove gods existence. Educate yourself about what proof is.
@@chuckybang it also doesn't prove it. You're whole "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" isn't a sufficient reason to embrace something as true. Afterall, there's absence of evidence for lots of things, including, invisible 5 headed dragons at the centers of all galaxies. Doesn't mean that they don't exist there.....should I then accept it as true merely because "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence"? Nonsense!
@@coffeetalk924 Where did I say that was reason to embrace something as true? Go ahead and find it, I'll wait.
I can't believe we are still dealing with this stupid god issue in the 21st
century.We have got to free ourselves from this ridiculous addiction.
Honestly
Why do you think everyone should think like you?
@@hosannapraisegod9286 you are right if everyone believed like me their probably wouldn't be The Atheist Experience to enjoy.however thanks for the comment cheers Mick.
@@hosannapraisegod9286 Lol the Bible asks YOU to make everyone think like YOU.
@@DatHombre show me the verse that says that.
Watching Matt and the dude back and forth was so confusing but theist was definitely reading a script, Matt was so fast to follow along and unpick their tongue twister and be able to use it back at him with deadly precision.
So good to see Dave again, he’s a treasure
Tyler summed up every caller to AXP when he said "why do I have to give evidence for God"?
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing.
Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 Faith plus nothing is nothing
@@pmtoner9852 Wrong. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. A lot of people think they know better than God/Jesus Christ. Man is finite (limited), God/Jesus Christ/the Holy Spirit is not. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Jesus said, "Blessed are they who have not seen, yet believe" (have faith). Without it one will never please or see/know God.
@@paulgemme6056 where you see faith I see credulity and an unwillingness for critical thinking.
@@pmtoner9852 At a very young age, I saw all around me so much evil, hatred, cruelty, bitterness, anger, revenge that I began think critically. Because of my critical thinking I discovered that there is place where there is no evil, hatred, cruelty, bitterness, anger, revenge, etc. Absent from the body present with the Lord. This world (wicked, evil world) is not my home. Just telling as many people as I can about the treasure I have found. His name Is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the King of Glory! My forever home.
"let me tell you what I think about the burden of proof"
Wow Ive never facepalmed so hard 🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤦
Totally disagree with Matt. I think "If God exists then God exists" is absolutely proof of... no wait... Philosophy is hard!
Moment he knows his argument is going to be defeated in next statement, he just is like "Lets back it up"
That made me laugh considering he hadn't gotten very far.
The most astounding thing to me to this day is that these otherwise "intelligent" people who supposedly have reasoning capabilities can perform astounding mental gymnastics and circular reasoning that a 4 year old would use to argue with their parents and somehow still think they have a valid argument or premise...
The truth is the truth.
These are people whom asked questions as children (because all of their assertions are childish and the sort even a child would question) and got fed bullshit for answers. They accepted those answers from their authority figures and never learned to question them. Indeed, most often they are discouraged from asking questions.
Went forced to confront the things they were told to believe and question them, they shy away because it requires the thinking they were discouraged from and threatens to take away the foundation of solid answers they believe they were given.
Eight Minutes and Twenty Three seconds into the Video, Tyler gets to the question he actually wanted to ask, but wasted ALL of our times by running through his preamble and nonsense questions first, this is EXACTLY what they told him to do at the beginning of the video.
42!! the answer is 42!!!!
As an answer to the great question 42 is as plausible as those proposed by those who call the show.
Has anyone ever noticed when someone says they're going to hurry up and get right into their points take the longest to do it?
Pastor: Here Kid, call in to Atheist Experience and read this rambling nonsense, good luck!...Tyler: M'Kay Pastor!
"But then can I stop receiving your holy stick in my mouth?"
Pastor: o come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant- oops I’m sorry did you say something?
I'm also embarrassed for Tyler as he seems to be an adult who cannot follow a simple logical thought process. I hope that Tyler has not graduated from a college without some proficiency in critical thinking.
He sounded like a Presup hoping to work a script, using folksy Southern mannerisms to disarm Matt/Dave. It didn't work. 😅
@sal - Logic is essential to determine that the talking serpent (it wasn’t a snake) would have been most likely allegorical. Logic also would indicate that we have no idea whether the serpent ‘talking’ was even audible. Logic would suggest that it’s possible the ‘talking’ was a temptation of thought. Temptation always begins in our mind, as a thought.
@@ianalan4367 Whatever you say Ian Alan
Most will not agree with me but I consider Matt to be the most patient radio personality during the decade or two. I would have hung up on 99% of the callers in less than 60 seconds. The rest at 150 seconds.
That Matt is more patient than you does not mean that he's more patient than every other "radio personality" for the last couple of decades. He's obviously not as patient as a number of the other hosts on AXP.
Sadly, matt has been losing his limits of patient since some time ago.
I guess that is normal after expending so much time listening to the same baseless theist assertions.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing.
Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
paul gemme Refer to my previous statement.
I do disagree. I enjoy Matt destroying a professional in a debate format and generally agree with everything he says regarding these topics but for many of these calls he won't let the caller get to their main point because he is so picky about not letting any nonsensical argument go. I get that he doesn't want to let people spew their nonsense forever but he needs to be able to let them make their main point.... then tell them why they are wrong. Dave Warnock tried to get this caller to say their main point a few times. Matt is also so knowledgeable and such a dominant force that he often overshadows his co-host. So, he knows his stuff but he gets so aggressive with the callers, wanting them to speak properly that he won't let them get to the point. Most callers are not comfortable in a debate format and cannot argue their beliefs to a debating level. They simply hold a belief that they can't believe others don't agree with.
I like listening to Matt and guests because of the way they know logical inference and so on. I could listen to this all day.
I am sorry, but they wouldn't know logic if it bit them in the ass. Philosophy is not Matts strong suit .
I find it interesting that theist callers seem unfamiliar with the basics of logic and they can get overly hostile when asked for evidence to support their claims.
Whoa! Thank you for the reference to 1st Peter, 3:15. I so often encounter theists who will simply refuse to address any issues I raise or answer questions I pose because they'll accuse me of being insincere, of hating god, of not having been touched by the holy spirit, and on and on, even quoting OTHER parts of the Bible that says the believer shouldn't waste their time with "people like me". Now, thanks to your reference to 1st Peter, 3:15 I at least have a response to that, saying "But wait, 1st Peter 3:15 TELLS YOU to answer my questions, are you going to disobey what the Bible says??" :)
No one follows God's word the bible because they have not been taught the truth.
Who are the true Christians today that 1 Peter 3:15 matters? When others demanded that a Christian where to give a reason for his hope, he was to do so “with a mild temper and deep respect .” Though questions might be propounded in an insulting manner, the Christian would present his reasons with calmness and gentleness. A true Christian is not cowed because of fear of men nor is he a pacifist. The Christian should take as an example the angels, who, though greater in strength and power, never present accusations in abusive terms.-2Pe 2:11.
When someone calls in & hasn't actually read their book . Its narcissism.
Why do they want us to believe in a book they haven't even read?
@@dx1450 tribalism , they want everyone on their team
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing.
Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@@paulgemme6056 all your BS comments have been totally debunked .maybe you should watch the videos rather than pausing and going straight to the comments .
@@Grande.biggly All the videos are about the same thing over and over again. How God/Jesus does not exist. I just plant seeds (gospel seeds) about the good news. If the seeds fall on good soil (a humble heart) then the seed may take root and grow, grow and produce fruit ( share the good news).
The speed of Matt cutting trough the bullshit makes most callers wordless. And it's clear here again as the caller is confused ever more.
At first I thought I'm hearing Ray Comfort. Not only the voice and the accent is similar, but also Ray really loves him some yes/no questions.
Haha the instant revved engine throat clear at the beginning made me bust out 😂
The absurd shit theists dream up in order to justify their delusion that supernatural gods exist is astounding !
This call was a classic example.
It really was. They can't find enough hoops to jump through to believe this insane nonsense. It is scary to witness what theism does to the human brain.
@@andreasplosky8516 Agreed !
"what's your point"
"i'm trying to do it as efficiently as I could..."
proceeds to ramble about nothing
Tyler-NC you are really really really bad at thinking.
Tyler- "I don't want to waste your time"
One nonsensical 15 minute preamble later...
“I know that’s a lot for one sentence.” No, Tyler it was simple (albeit incorrect) and not a lot for one sentence.
Tyler "I'm not sure what you mean" - exactly
This is written on Tyler's t-shirt!
@@stevereichert1292 lol
No matter what this gentleman says or how he words it does not make god exist. These bizarre word games are just silly. In all of his questions you could just take out the word god and put in the word “nature.”
Tyler is someone to stay way far away from 🤣
It's funny how religious types very often argue that there must be a God and an after-world otherwise what is the meaning/purpose of life. Of course, those same people wouldn't dream of applying the same "meaning of life" argument to say, the existence of a mouse...or even a dog...or ape.
"Things exist, therefore, god."
That's all I could get from the caller, and that makes no sense at all.
You can’t explain at all how things exist.
Dave Warnock is a giant in this episode. The whole thing.
If god is a necessary being that necessary cannot cease existing, then he cannot be almighty.
oooouuu....that gets interesting. Can an all powerful being make himself not exist? Can he create the universe while not existing? Can he bring himself into existence from nothing?
It’s a paradox, just as achille and the tortoise. That’s what happen when you play with absolute. Yawn.
God is supposedly the greatest possible being. A God that does not exist & can create everything is obviously greater than a God that exists & can create everything. Therefore God does not exist.
He also can't be omniscient and have free will, which is my favorite paradox
Drinking coffee from my red cup. Any existing god needs to be at least that convincing as my Red Cup before I could contemplate worshiping it. LOL.
Why is it a red cup and not blue or green
If Tyler learned some logic, he’d understand that Matt’s position has nothing to do with his failure to prove his imaginary gods exist.🙈
For all we know, the big bang was a god that exploded and we're living in its corpse. Could satisfy Matt's idea of it no longer "existing" and yet still creating everything. It was frustrating listening to the caller failing to understand the hole in his logic even when it was explained to him.
That's possible. It's equally possible that something else happened, some natural process not involving a god, and we're living in its "corpse" or better to say residue of that natural process.
The Cosmic Microwave Background radiation would probably be a good example that sort of residue. (If we instead had found the skeleton of some huge dragon spread across billions of light years of space, we'd be trying to figure that out instead. But, significantly, that's not at all the sort of thing we find. Instead we see remnants of simple and energetically plausible, but still amazing, physical processes. We don't see mythic creatures.)
The CMB is certainly a kind of "corpse" and we don't even have to speculate about its existence. It's an evidential fact. Though I doubt that it answers everything, still, a lot of work has gone into mapping its structure, in hope of gaining insight into some meaningful feature of the early universe.
Alas, this sort of careful, data-driven, forward inquiry into the true origins of the universe are not what the caller wants to engage with. He's already got his "answer": now all he has to do is come up with some way to justify it. Too bad that honest investigation doesn't work that way.
Seems like alot of work... and is probably not that complex. Just word salad, and going nowhere. There isn't anything there.
The CRAZY thing is I use to believe in CRAZY religion/god. I just gave the nonsense a pass until I really did an examination and quit blindly following along.
In order for anything to be made it takes an intelligent designer and a maker/builder. What some scientists and all atheists don't understand is the power of God/Jesus. It takes someone who has a spiritual relationship with God/Jesus, one who has born of the Spirit, born again, born from above, one who has excepted the free gift of eternal life. That's the only way one is able to understand the power of God/Jesus and his plan of salvation. No religion needed. just faith, faith plus nothing.
Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
paul femme You did not just start off with the Watchmaker's fallacy...😂 Now go away troll!
You know, if I had dance around with all kinds of hypotheticals and what-ifs and pseudo philosophy in order to justify my position, I would seriously consider re-examining my beliefs.
I remember back when I was a Christian all the mental hoops I made myself jump through in order to explain logical contradictions within the religion.
Can we all please stop using a capital G for god?
Sadly, no. Not until Christians come up with an actual name for their supreme being.
I just use a capital P for Prove it lol
Eh. I don’t really mind. I use capitol letters for fictional characters sometimes. Sometimes I’m lazy and I don’t. I like to use capitol G when talking with believers, because it’s just one more way you can be courteous without conceding anything.
@@AllThroughALife There's a few names for God in the bible, the most common is YHWH or Yahweh.
@@TrettinR - That name was withdrawn from use in about 500 BC. There are several other names mentioned as well, but there are rules associated with them once used. That's why they just use "God" now... because that makes perfect sense, right?
" I thought I was calling to ask you questions" it's AXP not AMA
Tyler could win a tap dancing competition.
That noise he makes every couple minutes.....must be a demon trying to escape his body.
This conversation was so funny. It was more of a test in logic. Unscrambling the logic is very funny but Matt was right onto it.
These people call using terms they just cannot comprehend.
The secret to life the universe and everything, is a dirty little secret. It's that there is no secret and everything that exists fulfills its purpose.
It's about the journey, not the destination.
Just because something exists doesn't make it evidence for your claim or proposition. Facts can be evidence for one thing but not evidence for some other things.
Trying to be Darth Dawkins.
Is that guy still around?
@@AllThroughALife He'll be straw manning until he dies. Yes, he's still around. The big question is why?
@@nollattacykel - Because he loves hearing himself talk. That's about it.
Sentence 1 is wrong on based on the definition
If a "NECESSARY BEING THAT CANNOT STOP EXISTING..." does not exist
I would have asked for his definition of real, because it seems to me real means actually manifesting in physical reality. How was God real, manifesting in physical reality, prior to creating physical reality?
Hope your still with us for longer than u indicated Dave...
What a complete waste of time. 4:42
I was looking 4 gud and found he was hiding under my couch the whole time!
"Why do I have to show you evidence?" Sir why did you even call in to this show if you did not intend to show evidence?
Has a theologian or clergy ever called in? I'd love to watch that.
I've seen a few instances elsewhere. Their arguments are still uniformly fallacious, but the packaging is more professional. And absolutely nothing new is ever offered in the way of meaningful insight. It's quite sad, really, to find that all that scholarship has produced nothing better. Common themes are:
• You don't understand the subtleties and sophistication of faith. Alas, it would take too long to explain. (Mumbo jumbo fallacy.)
• You haven't sincerely tried to believe. (Peter Pan fallacy.)
• Claiming the moral high ground, on no evidence. Also, shaming. (Old school, but still very effective on survivors of religious abuse.)
• Various forms of Strawman Fallacy. (It seems that even among educated professionals, this is still just too irresistible not to try, even though it invariably backfires.)
• Various forms of Appeal to Emotion. (This works for the flock but somehow doesn't have as much traction with skeptics. As the difference of opinion becomes uncomfortable, can morph into "let's ease this conflict and find common ground by having you compromise.")
• Various forms of Appeal to Utility. ("Think of all the good that is done in the name of our religion, and how it couldn't conceivably be done simply for its own sake.")
• Various attempts to shift the burden of proof. (Often disguised within a Strawman, but still fairly easy to call out.)
• Affirming the consequent. (Usually introduced as a "hypothetical" which will later be quietly converted into a certainty.)
• Various Equivocation Fallacies. (Typically on faith, but also on purpose, creation, morality, consciousness, information, communication.)
i kinda want to see this guy's flow chart
I would ask Tyler is this argument the reason you are a theist? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no!!!! I never understand how they think these lame arguments are evidence for God's, the trees are no evidence for any God's and neither is his lame argument...🤗🤗🤗
Nice Condescending little chuckle that Tyler uses
Whoo hoo, I'm first! I must be a God!
Haha
@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 Can you prove that the bible is true?
@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 blow it out your @$$.
Ray!
When someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES.
@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 Reported as spam, per usual.
If Underdog created everything, then Underdog exists.
Why does Matt have co-hosts?
There's more to the discussion than what you just saw. There's back and forth before the call in portion.
Same reason Jesus had disciples lol
"I'd like simple true-or-false responses! If x doesn't exist, then y didn't come from x."
"False. x might have stopped existing after y happened."
"Ah, but this x doesn't work like that. This is a special x."
"Why?"
"... ... The Bible?"
"Back to school with thee."
What a maroon...😚
Ah, the old “I can’t hear you” ploy. Always gets old.
Matter was created by energy in the Big Bang.
if you say so
We don’t really know that for sure, « creation » doesn’t necessarily apply as a concept. Just as time, did it « start » at some point?
At some point all matter in the universe was concentrated at one point but we can’t really explore anything « before » that.
At least for now.
What is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
Matter doesn't matter to Matter.
@@chrisgraham2904 lol
@MattDillahunty 1:50 Exactly!
That is my favorite kind of Goddess: Disposablia, the Goddess that sacrificed her life so this universe could exist (Because of mysterious reasons we will never comprehend).
She gave us this universe, with NO gods (and blocks the tiring arguments hijacking the universe, life, morality, or whatever, to credit the god of their choosing ).
Blessed be Her!
Good lord. Listening to that guy give his argument was like listening to a small child tell you a story. He could have given that argument of his in 2 minutes.
When a religious person asks to ask instead of just asking a question, that's basically always a sign you are about to hear a script
Love Dave’s “there is something in the water today”
Dave Warnock, nailed it ....👍