I received my DNA test and found out while I’m mostly Han Chinese, I have Manchu/ Mongolian DNA in me as well. Knowing that Manchu culture is dying made me realize how unique this part of my DNA is. I will always embrace my Manchu genetic!
@@anonymouslyanonymous5987 You should start a non profit organization dedicated to restoring Manchurian history and traditions? Without help from the rest of the world this civilization could be lost to time.
i don't blame the manchu for the qing dynasty and china becoming "backwards" in the 20th century, in fact i think early qing had some of china's better rulers. however the manchu language and culture were put on the sacrificial altar when the manchu crossed shanhai pass into china. the manchu themselves said that china is meant to be a multiethnic empire and that manchu have just as much of a right as han chinese to rule the entirety of china. this idea was forced onto china on threat of death (along with the hotly debated queue hairstyle). so why is anyone surprised when the descendants of manchu turned out to have adopted mainstream chinese culture, which is largely han culture? i think the language and culture is worth preserving, but its demise shouldn't be anyone's surprise.
I agree with what you said. By the late Qing Dynasty, the Manchus living in Beijing had already lost proficiency in the Manchu language. The Manchus would Sinicize, and everyone would seek to Westernize; people would definitely choose a more convenient and affluent lifestyle.
From what I read, even though the Manchus took over China the Manchu language wasn't really used during the Qing Dynasty. Besides, It would be hard to convert such a big country to reading, writing and speaking Manchu when Mandarin was already difficult.
@@moonrisehowler1842 well not quite, the manchu language was made officially china’s national language in qing dynasty, and so it was used for every piece of government files hence today there are tons of them in different parts of china.
@@huhuhuhu2470 oh, interesting. i did know from reading _Empress Orchid_ , a biography of Empress Dowager Cixi, important documents and readings (wedding vows, decrees, etc.) would be read both in mandarin and manchu. the book mentioned that manchu wasn't as spoken as often as mandarin, but it seems like manchu prevailed in text more than in speech. it has been a while since i read the book, though.
Thank you for making this video about Manchu people and Manchu culture! As a person with Manchu heritage, I feel sad to loose my language and culture. The only connection I had with my Manchu background is some random things my grandma used to tell me.
Mustafa Alam it’s a shame for you to blame the victim individuals, not the bullying government. Look at Uyghurs’ situation in China now. You will have a better understanding.
Your culture is the most beautiful of all the cultures of previous dynasties, Beautiful costumes from head to toe, so unique and it is known to outside people of China as Chinese Culture.....Han people cannot claim to be theirs. Amazing and Awesome culture.
@@annc4260umm, the Manchus lost their language since the Qing, what the hell does that have to do with the current government? Don't even compare the Manchus today to the Uyghurs, the Manchus are integrated into the mainstream culture already. It's like comparing French Americans to native Americans in the US back in 1900.
@@NikhileshSurve North Asians have a low civilization when they rule over a country that has a higher civilization they will assimilate, It's been happening for thousands of years and not just in China
Manchu will always live. Their language probably on the brink of extinction. However they already abandon them even during the Qing era. In fact, like it narrated in the video, Manchu influences on todays Chinese culture runs deep. The Qing Dynasty remains one of the popular subject in Chinese pop culture, and the so called Chinese traditional clothes that knows troughout the world like qipao or cheongsam or changsan actually comes from Manchu origin. It's sad to see the Manchu language on the brink of extinction. But there will always be people who work to preserve that. And even if it died, the Manchu will still alive in some form. In fact, the modern Beijing dialect of the Mandarin language is the "new" Manchu language since it was the language that spoken by the Manchus during the Qing Dynasty while the Han especially in the South speaks Cantonese or Hokkian. So don't worry. Manchu will always live.
@@CooltasticOG I think he's talking about 那英 Na ying, a very famous singer in china who was said to be a descendent from the manchurian Nara clan, the same clan that dowager cixi was from. After the fall of Qing dynasty, the manchus changed their surnames to chinese looking ones, i suppose the Na in her name is related to her clan.
The so-called “Mandarin” that is wildly spoken today has strong influence from Manchu. Try talking to southern people in their native tongues, it’s like a foreign language
JT Wu not really,southern dialects had been hard to understand for people who lived in central or northern China for more than one thousand and hundreds years, according to ancient poets’ descriptions 唐 韓愈 《送區冊序》:「小吏十餘家,皆 鳥言夷面。」 唐代 柳宗元-------「楚越間聲音特異，鴃舌啅譟，今聽之怡然不怪，已與為類矣」--【與蕭翰林書】 唐代 崔沆-------「時循人稀可與言者」 唐代 劉禹錫 ------「蠻語鈎輈音，蠻衣斑斕布。」-- 【蠻子歌】 唐代 張籍---------- 「蠻聲喧夜市，海色浸潮台」--------------【送鄭尚書出鎮南海】 北宋 蘇東坡父子-----「南蠻鴃舌」 宋代 周去非-------「余又嘗令譯者以禮部韻按交趾語，字字有異」--【嶺外代答】 明代 徐霖------- 「中原雅韻何消記，南蠻鴃舌且休題。」 i’m from southern China
The Qing Manchus put strict sanctions to systematically oppress Han people. People who didn't follow Manchu dress code were publicly executed. The Qings tried really hard to destroy Han culture. Qing is also to blame for suppressing science and innovation, causing China to go from a dominant power to a poor and underdeveloped nation. It's one of the reasons why the Qing dynasty is looked down upon.
My mother's .40% Manchurian and Mongolian ancestry. They then interacted with south east and west Africans. Then came to the America's. I am Chumash, Taos Pueblo, Cahokia, Mayan, and Nazca. With more recent ancestry coming from Mexico and the US.
Manchus were defeated by Japan and then England and then half ruled by Japanese. But Manchus ruled Chinese for almost 250 years, which put an end to Chinese civilization. At the time Manchus ruled Chinese, it was in fact Manchuria Empire, not Chinese Empire. But people tend to still call it China instead of Manchuria because Chinese are widely known in this world. Today, Manchuria is under China's rule and Russia's rule half by half. Manchu people do not have their own country today.
No, what put an end to Chinese civilization was the Xinhai Revolution of 1911, it transformed Chinese civilization to those of the West and turned Hua into Yi. The Manchus called their own empire Chinese Empire, not the Manchurian Empire. Han does not equal Chinese in Qing times, it is merely the commoner. Russians don't rule Manchus, they rule other Tungusic people, not all Tungusic people are Manchus.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 And you think there are no differences between Manchus and Japanese? According to what genetic studies? What Haplogroup does Japanese and Manchus share that other East Asians do not? Because most East Asians have the Haplogroup O-M175. Half the Japanese people have it, which shows that ethnicity and descent aren't directly related themselves.
Chinese is not a race but a name given to a people with certain characteristics sharing a common culture, influenced by different cultures that, over time, added to it. Manchurian culture is one such influence. If you say, that today, paper cutting is not Chinese, I will be very surprised. Similarly if you say Confucianism is not Chinese, as some Koreans have claimed, I will be even more surprised. Korea, had, for some long time, been a part of China and so did Vietnam. They, too, had left their influence and brought with them much Chinese influence into their now separate cultures. The Philippines, too, used to be heavily influenced by China before the Spanish occupancy with several parts ruled by Chinese, but not China directly. Sulu had wanted to be directly a part of China but was rejected by the Qing Emperor who preferred it to be just a vassal state. The famous Chinese Tang poet, Li Bai, came from a place which was Chinese once but now a part of Russia. History has changed the boundary from one side of the river to the other. If we were to define Chinese as a race, it would have to be confined to the original Han people. Cantonese, Hokkien and even Shanghainese would have to be excluded, effectively the bulk of Chinese today, in fact. Today, they all called themselves Chinese.
Nobody can claim 'purity' however the Cantonese, Hokkien and Shanghainese are not natives who got assimilated into Han but are Han that migrated south. Han Chinese is a race by the definition of race in the Oxford dictionary, people who share a culture, identity, language and history is a race/ethnic group.
zeiitgeist Two thousand years ago, Cantonese and Hokkien were a different people from the South, more closely aligned with Vietnamese. Hokkien, in particular, were made to migrate northwards to Zhejiang by the Han Emperor. Shanghaist, too, used to be the Wu (吴) people. Then at the end of the Song Dynasty and the beginning of the Yuan Dynasty, with the invasion of the Mongols, about eight hundred years ago, there was a mass migration of people southwards into today's Guangdong and Fujian. Over the centuries intermarriages with the local people in these areas gave rise to the present Cantonese and Hokkien. Today, although out of 56 ethnic groups in China, the Han Chinese are said to make up 90% of the population, many of this number are of a mixed race like Cantonese, Hokkien and those like Shanghaist located in the Zhejiang and Jiangsu areas.
There was no Cantonese or Hokkien back then, a lot of them were of another ethnicity, Miao, Thai, etc and during the big migrations from the North during tumultuous periods, the population of the south were driven out, one of them were the Thai who were pushed to where they were now during the 1000s, the Hokkiens and Cantonese took root during the Han times and multiplied from there, also keeping the period Chinese they used during their time. Also Y-Chromosome Haplogroup shows that most of the people in the region belong to O3 which is what they say Hans are whereas the 'natives' were O2 which means many of the descendants are migrants, some speculate there was a male extermination of the other ethnicity, but again I don't claim pure blood - that is silly but the southern Chinese cannot be considered another ethnicity just because they were not assimilated into the Han rather they are Han.
There never were in the first place. The Manchus were a confederacy of different Tungusic tribes who intermarried heavily with the Mongols and Han Chinese from the start. "Manchu" was always more of a political label than ethnic identifier so you could be born Han and be given the label "Manchu" at a later age. Meanwhile actual people of Jianzhou Jurchen descent like the Xibe were NOT considered to be Manchus.
Manchus changed their names to Han Chinese. 100s of thousands of Han Chinese were sent to Manchuria to populate the land so the Russians would think its China not Manchuria. But you can see the Manchu features are different from the Han Chinese, Manchu will look like any Mongol tribes and Koreans.
After Manchu Empire crumbled and pretty much erased themselves, new China was on bend to erase it more with vengeance. During new Mao china, Manchus had to adopt Chinese names, who had totally different language. Manchus were just too few to stand for themselves after big fall from grace. They were less than 1 in 1000.
well, they were the last dynasty so ofc they're gonna be more technologically advanced than the others. But if you are talking about cultural influence or technology that shaped the world it would probably be the Tang, Ming, or Han
@@gon5392 I disagree. The Qing were the largest and most powerful dynasty China ever had. And they at least did make some contact with the west. The others didn’t want any part of it.
Mongol Chiuud the government of China bought a hole tons of musics from a Japan company, they pretty much bought the copyright of everything while even don't know what and where these songs are and come from, they even used a song from Yoruga no Sora緣の空, and this is a R18 GALGAME about Brother and sister incest and ends up by close relatives get married, they kinda just used it's music in television news (imagine CNN using pornfilm musics), they kinda just find a music with some kinds of emotion, like smooth or excitement, and just use it.
Mongol Chiuud It's a Japanese music company who got copyright of every music, and Chinese government just bought their product which is license to use their music library, it's more like a Spotify thing, not for personal use but for products of big companies and governments,
Hopefully someday, Manchuria, along with Tibet, Xinjiang, and Inner Mongolia, will all gain independence and form their own nations. Manchuria will be allowed to teach the Manchu language to everyone.
If you are literate to search wiki encyclopedia, you will find Han population accounted more than 90% of Manchuria. In Inner Mongolia, Mongolian population makes up less than 20 % of the whole population. Your claim is just like a drunkard's nonsense. I was born in Shenyang and lived there for 3 decades, the largest city in Manchuria and travelled all over three provinces in Manchurian. Manchuria is just a name. Can you imagine a land with 95% inhabitants being Han Chinese be independent? If you utter your claim in Manchuria, you will be treated as a mental patient. In the late 19 century and 20 century, even the powerful Russian empire and Japan empire couldn't rule Manchuria for long time. You know why? That was because there were 4000 Han Chinese immigrants in Manchura. Now there are 100million Han Chinese there. I hope you could visit and witness the Inner Mongolia and Manchuria to watch your daydream evaporate.
@@francoislee1658 okay, how about take a portion of the northeast, and whichever Han are living in the area can swap places with the Manchu that are living in other places in China. And if that idea is too unrealistic, make it similar to how Israel and Palestine was in 1948, where some parts were mostly Palestinian Arab, while some parts were mostly Israeli Jewish. The Han that live in the north east can stay, but all the sparsely populated land should be utilized to build a manchu state, and then encourage all Manchu to migrate to the sparsely populated land.
To sum up: they were the first muslim-turkic nomadic people who came from northern side of asia. Now I understood why chinese translator in istanbul said that we were blood brothers of somewhere of china.
I was in Changchun a few weeks ago and I've managed to meet a few Manchus. I even taught them some Manchu phrases, including "thank you" (baniha), to get them to keep in touch with their ancestral heritage. 😁
The difference between all these cultures that conquered other territories (Manchu people invading Han China, Turco-Mongol of the Mughals invading India etc.) is that they actually assimilate into the culture of the territory they conquered. The Manchu empire that would be the Qing Dynasty became more Chinese than Jurchen/Manchu, and the Mughal Empire became more Indian as their conquerors adapted and assimilated into the ways of the people that now live under their rule. It's not like colonizing countries like France, Britain or Spain who instead of assimilating into the culture they completely wanted to replace it with their own (Spain and Portugal have done this for pretty much forever but France and Britain would get into this whole gimmick of "replacing" culture later on). I guess that today it's just that there are many Manchu people but have become closer to the Hans, the culture that their ancestors assimilated into. Of course they brought with them some traditions, but if they fade away it's just a result of centuries of assimilation.
Better go home and sleep ! Why so stubborn care of it? My culture is yours and your culture is mine. You and I also on the same ship. If sink everyone will sink.
well manchus ruled china for about 300 years or so, and the language was made one of the official national languages for china hence. All qing dynasty documents and files were written in manchu and chinese, and so as long as there is written records left the language will not disappear.
Don't forget that in Nanhan Mountain City, Li zong（조선 인조） knelt down and called "Dad Huang Taiji, you are slaves for thousands of years, you are descendants of Malays, and even genetically different from North Korea. Shameful people, don't lie."
Many Manchurians along with other Chinese were used as live experimental objects by the Japanese military under Puyi's rule. And almost all the agricultural and industrial products were controlled by the Japanese and ship back to Japan. One of the reasons why their number becomes so small is slaughtering and starvation during the Japanese occupation.
Except that Puyi didn't really rule, he was just a puppet for the japanese. And the experiments were kept really secret, I doubt Puyi knew of their existence.
Hans were the assimilations of over a hundred or more ethnicity (Qin, Yen, Han, Chi, Chu, Wei, etc) throughout the few thousand years of Chinese history. All people were recognised as "Han" during the Han dynasty & thereafter.
@@rickychang2893 These Kingdoms were consisted of the same people. Baiyue peoples were more distinct and their bloodlines descended to the ethnic minorities such as Zhuang, Wa, Dai, Li and Kam etc.
It was such an adventure making this film and learning about Manchu people in China. A big thank you to CGTN for featuring our film!
Congrats!!
Luchkow Loved your show!!!!
Good film but I wish it was longer w more details
I received my DNA test and found out while I’m mostly Han Chinese, I have Manchu/ Mongolian DNA in me as well. Knowing that Manchu culture is dying made me realize how unique this part of my DNA is. I will always embrace my Manchu genetic!
@@anonymouslyanonymous5987 You should start a non profit organization dedicated to restoring Manchurian history and traditions? Without help from the rest of the world this civilization could be lost to time.
i don't blame the manchu for the qing dynasty and china becoming "backwards" in the 20th century, in fact i think early qing had some of china's better rulers. however the manchu language and culture were put on the sacrificial altar when the manchu crossed shanhai pass into china. the manchu themselves said that china is meant to be a multiethnic empire and that manchu have just as much of a right as han chinese to rule the entirety of china. this idea was forced onto china on threat of death (along with the hotly debated queue hairstyle). so why is anyone surprised when the descendants of manchu turned out to have adopted mainstream chinese culture, which is largely han culture? i think the language and culture is worth preserving, but its demise shouldn't be anyone's surprise.
In my opinion, Cixi should be blamed for making China "backwards" and making child Puyi as an emperor.
@@XfromDarkHorse which is why there is a saying, when a woman holds on to too much power in court, the empire will start to crumble.
This is what happens when a minority conquers China. They neglect their culture and embrace the Han culture
I agree with what you said. By the late Qing Dynasty, the Manchus living in Beijing had already lost proficiency in the Manchu language. The Manchus would Sinicize, and everyone would seek to Westernize; people would definitely choose a more convenient and affluent lifestyle.
Tbh, you can find more Manchu culture and Manchus in Beijing.
What's the music
@@KishoreKumar-cs6dd 欢沁
@@舒芙蕾-z2x English
What about Manchu language, music and dance?
not to be rude but the manchu language is extinct
From what I read, even though the Manchus took over China the Manchu language wasn't really used during the Qing Dynasty. Besides, It would be hard to convert such a big country to reading, writing and speaking Manchu when Mandarin was already difficult.
@@moonrisehowler1842
This is why you shouldn't conquer China.
You end up adopting Chinese at the end.
@@moonrisehowler1842 well not quite, the manchu language was made officially china’s national language in qing dynasty, and so it was used for every piece of government files hence today there are tons of them in different parts of china.
@@huhuhuhu2470 oh, interesting. i did know from reading _Empress Orchid_ , a biography of Empress Dowager Cixi, important documents and readings (wedding vows, decrees, etc.) would be read both in mandarin and manchu. the book mentioned that manchu wasn't as spoken as often as mandarin, but it seems like manchu prevailed in text more than in speech. it has been a while since i read the book, though.
That's it, non existing eagles and cutting paper? Didn't they have opera and theatre and music and sports and books and philosophy?
So good, thank you for doing this small documentary 🙏🏼😍
I prefer voiceovers because the subtitles are too small to read .
So, the vampire dresses in popular culture are actually Manchurian traditional dress?
Thank you for making this video about Manchu people and Manchu culture! As a person with Manchu heritage, I feel sad to loose my language and culture. The only connection I had with my Manchu background is some random things my grandma used to tell me.
Mustafa Alam it’s a shame for you to blame the victim individuals, not the bullying government. Look at Uyghurs’ situation in China now. You will have a better understanding.
Your culture is the most beautiful of all the cultures of previous dynasties, Beautiful costumes from head to toe, so unique and it is known to outside people of China as Chinese Culture.....Han people cannot claim to be theirs. Amazing and Awesome culture.
@@annc4260umm, the Manchus lost their language since the Qing, what the hell does that have to do with the current government? Don't even compare the Manchus today to the Uyghurs, the Manchus are integrated into the mainstream culture already. It's like comparing French Americans to native Americans in the US back in 1900.
You deserve worse. Your people's idiocracy cost china dearly!
@@blackrose_111 the han never claimed anything from the manchus! We hate them to the core.
What about the language? Language is just as important or perhaps even more important aspect of any culture.
Language was lost to time because the majority spoke the Chinese languages and dialects.
@@sheepuswoolius That sounds unfortunate.
Weren't the Manchus ruling China? Why did the Manchus stop speaking their own language?
@@NikhileshSurve North Asians have a low civilization when they rule over a country that has a higher civilization they will assimilate, It's been happening for thousands of years and not just in China
@@anomalianomali5080 What are some other examples?
@@NikhileshSurve Wei dinasty in China and Mughal in south asia
Manchu will always live. Their language probably on the brink of extinction. However they already abandon them even during the Qing era. In fact, like it narrated in the video, Manchu influences on todays Chinese culture runs deep. The Qing Dynasty remains one of the popular subject in Chinese pop culture, and the so called Chinese traditional clothes that knows troughout the world like qipao or cheongsam or changsan actually comes from Manchu origin. It's sad to see the Manchu language on the brink of extinction. But there will always be people who work to preserve that. And even if it died, the Manchu will still alive in some form. In fact, the modern Beijing dialect of the Mandarin language is the "new" Manchu language since it was the language that spoken by the Manchus during the Qing Dynasty while the Han especially in the South speaks Cantonese or Hokkian. So don't worry. Manchu will always live.
And we spit on the manchu everyday.
Long live Manchuria! Riders of the North.
There is at least one singer who was a Manchurian princess.
Who?
@@CooltasticOG I think he's talking about 那英 Na ying, a very famous singer in china who was said to be a descendent from the manchurian Nara clan, the same clan that dowager cixi was from. After the fall of Qing dynasty, the manchus changed their surnames to chinese looking ones, i suppose the Na in her name is related to her clan.
The so-called “Mandarin” that is wildly spoken today has strong influence from Manchu. Try talking to southern people in their native tongues, it’s like a foreign language
JT Wu not really,southern dialects had been hard to understand for people who lived in central or northern China for more than one thousand and hundreds years, according to ancient poets’ descriptions
唐 韓愈 《送區冊序》:「小吏十餘家,皆 鳥言夷面。」
唐代 柳宗元-------「楚越間聲音特異，鴃舌啅譟，今聽之怡然不怪，已與為類矣」--【與蕭翰林書】
唐代 崔沆-------「時循人稀可與言者」
唐代 劉禹錫 ------「蠻語鈎輈音，蠻衣斑斕布。」-- 【蠻子歌】
唐代 張籍---------- 「蠻聲喧夜市，海色浸潮台」--------------【送鄭尚書出鎮南海】
北宋 蘇東坡父子-----「南蠻鴃舌」
宋代 周去非-------「余又嘗令譯者以禮部韻按交趾語，字字有異」--【嶺外代答】
明代 徐霖------- 「中原雅韻何消記，南蠻鴃舌且休題。」
i’m from southern China
你爸爸 thanks for making my case for me.
@@jtwu8931 lol
Alex sorry to hear that. My grandmother was of Manchuria decent from Peking.
JT Wu 傻B
Those shoes belonged to the concubines in the harem . Not the emperor .
song at 7:00 Once upon a time in America??
I am Tamang but same like manchu , miou, wa , zhuang and tibetain ....
WTF! You still haven't found the purpose of anything.
I'm a han myself, but qing dynasty was one of longest dynasty in Chinese history. Manchu culture is so rich, it should be kept, preserved and live on.
x zhou I prefer Tang or Ming Dynasty anyday!
The Qing Manchus put strict sanctions to systematically oppress Han people. People who didn't follow Manchu dress code were publicly executed. The Qings tried really hard to destroy Han culture. Qing is also to blame for suppressing science and innovation, causing China to go from a dominant power to a poor and underdeveloped nation. It's one of the reasons why the Qing dynasty is looked down upon.
@grimm reaper han chinese and manchus don't have the same culture
@@Hboogie182 The Qing followed the Ming dynasties isolationist views
We have the Qing dynasty to blame for the destruction of Han culture and opium war. Qing imposed hair queue and qipao are fugly to say the least.
很高兴看见了一张视频长春市和满族艺术。记了我住在长春的时候很高兴，东北人是很友好的。
My mother's .40% Manchurian and Mongolian ancestry. They then interacted with south east and west Africans. Then came to the America's. I am Chumash, Taos Pueblo, Cahokia, Mayan, and Nazca. With more recent ancestry coming from Mexico and the US.
Interesting. I am from Kazakhstan and I did my dna test and I am 46% Manchurian and Mongolian lol
you are dirty
@@zhanmeneev3955 Because in the Qing dynasty, manchurian and Mongolian often had political union marriages.
누르하치가 살던땅에 꼭 한번 가보고 싶습니다!
Manchus were defeated by Japan and then England and then half ruled by Japanese. But Manchus ruled Chinese for almost 250 years, which put an end to Chinese civilization. At the time Manchus ruled Chinese, it was in fact Manchuria Empire, not Chinese Empire. But people tend to still call it China instead of Manchuria because Chinese are widely known in this world. Today, Manchuria is under China's rule and Russia's rule half by half. Manchu people do not have their own country today.
No, what put an end to Chinese civilization was the Xinhai Revolution of 1911, it transformed Chinese civilization to those of the West and turned Hua into Yi. The Manchus called their own empire Chinese Empire, not the Manchurian Empire. Han does not equal Chinese in Qing times, it is merely the commoner. Russians don't rule Manchus, they rule other Tungusic people, not all Tungusic people are Manchus.
@@markemailonly3114 Japanese are genetically related to the Manchurian.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 All east Asians are genetically related.
@@markemailonly3114 There are still differences.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 And you think there are no differences between Manchus and Japanese? According to what genetic studies? What Haplogroup does Japanese and Manchus share that other East Asians do not? Because most East Asians have the Haplogroup O-M175. Half the Japanese people have it, which shows that ethnicity and descent aren't directly related themselves.
wow the first guy, they interview didn't have brown eyes like most chinese.
Title of beginning music?
Background music??
At 06:20 it's romanian traditional music. LOL
Chinese is not a race but a name given to a people with certain characteristics sharing a common culture, influenced by different cultures that, over time, added to it. Manchurian culture is one such influence. If you say, that today, paper cutting is not Chinese, I will be very surprised. Similarly if you say Confucianism is not Chinese, as some Koreans have claimed, I will be even more surprised. Korea, had, for some long time, been a part of China and so did Vietnam. They, too, had left their influence and brought with them much Chinese influence into their now separate cultures. The Philippines, too, used to be heavily influenced by China before the Spanish occupancy with several parts ruled by Chinese, but not China directly. Sulu had wanted to be directly a part of China but was rejected by the Qing Emperor who preferred it to be just a vassal state. The famous Chinese Tang poet, Li Bai, came from a place which was Chinese once but now a part of Russia. History has changed the boundary from one side of the river to the other.
If we were to define Chinese as a race, it would have to be confined to the original Han people. Cantonese, Hokkien and even Shanghainese would have to be excluded, effectively the bulk of Chinese today, in fact. Today, they all called themselves Chinese.
Nobody can claim 'purity' however the Cantonese, Hokkien and Shanghainese are not natives who got assimilated into Han but are Han that migrated south. Han Chinese is a race by the definition of race in the Oxford dictionary, people who share a culture, identity, language and history is a race/ethnic group.
zeiitgeist Two thousand years ago, Cantonese and Hokkien were a different people from the South, more closely aligned with Vietnamese. Hokkien, in particular, were made to migrate northwards to Zhejiang by the Han Emperor. Shanghaist, too, used to be the Wu (吴) people.
Then at the end of the Song Dynasty and the beginning of the Yuan Dynasty, with the invasion of the Mongols, about eight hundred years ago, there was a mass migration of people southwards into today's Guangdong and Fujian. Over the centuries intermarriages with the local people in these areas gave rise to the present Cantonese and Hokkien.
Today, although out of 56 ethnic groups in China, the Han Chinese are said to make up 90% of the population, many of this number are of a mixed race like Cantonese, Hokkien and those like Shanghaist located in the Zhejiang and Jiangsu areas.
There was no Cantonese or Hokkien back then, a lot of them were of another ethnicity, Miao, Thai, etc and during the big migrations from the North during tumultuous periods, the population of the south were driven out, one of them were the Thai who were pushed to where they were now during the 1000s, the Hokkiens and Cantonese took root during the Han times and multiplied from there, also keeping the period Chinese they used during their time. Also Y-Chromosome Haplogroup shows that most of the people in the region belong to O3 which is what they say Hans are whereas the 'natives' were O2 which means many of the descendants are migrants, some speculate there was a male extermination of the other ethnicity, but again I don't claim pure blood - that is silly but the southern Chinese cannot be considered another ethnicity just because they were not assimilated into the Han rather they are Han.
This Manchu man has blue eyes. Interesting.
Who gave you the confidence that Manchu represents the Northeast.
There are no more pure blood manchus anymore
There never were in the first place. The Manchus were a confederacy of different Tungusic tribes who intermarried heavily with the Mongols and Han Chinese from the start. "Manchu" was always more of a political label than ethnic identifier so you could be born Han and be given the label "Manchu" at a later age. Meanwhile actual people of Jianzhou Jurchen descent like the Xibe were NOT considered to be Manchus.
It doesn’t matter, Manchus were far fewer, and is not a single race nation of manchu
no one is pure blood. What the hell does that term even mean
Manchus changed their names to Han Chinese. 100s of thousands of Han Chinese were sent to Manchuria to populate the land so the Russians would think its China not Manchuria. But you can see the Manchu features are different from the Han Chinese, Manchu will look like any Mongol tribes and Koreans.
His shoes ? It is a girl shoes ! How can a chinese channel can allow such mistake !?
Thx, bro
Mongol empire, capital was at Beijing so mean mongol also Chinese but did different ethnic group!
this where mandarin comes from the language. All us side chinese dialects got conquered.
After Manchu Empire crumbled and pretty much erased themselves, new China was on bend to erase it more with vengeance. During new Mao china, Manchus had to adopt Chinese names, who had totally different language. Manchus were just too few to stand for themselves after big fall from grace. They were less than 1 in 1000.
They already have chinese names during the Qing
Its the ROC that tried to erase Manchus, the PRC don't give a crud. In fact recently, its promoting Qing dynasty in all sorts of TV shows.
@@kenag2706 plus ... most of them speak chinese in late qing era.
The Qing was probably the most advanced of all the dynasties. And I loved their clothing.
well, they were the last dynasty so ofc they're gonna be more technologically advanced than the others. But if you are talking about cultural influence or technology that shaped the world it would probably be the Tang, Ming, or Han
@@gon5392 I disagree. The Qing were the largest and most powerful dynasty China ever had. And they at least did make some contact with the west. The others didn’t want any part of it.
Song dynasty reached pre-industrial level
@@calvinsuu1949 really? Did they have rifles and cannons?
@@bbr6444 gun powders, proto missiles, grenades and bombs, read the accounts of mongol-song war
Perhaps the training of eagles originally came from the ancient Egyptian worship of the falcon god Horus. 😊
I'm from Mongolia, I've been to China numerous times, but the big brother situation is too much for me, I would never visit China ever again.
CGTN why you used Japanese music from the Karate Kid films?.....lol
Mongol Chiuud the government of China bought a hole tons of musics from a Japan company, they pretty much bought the copyright of everything while even don't know what and where these songs are and come from, they even used a song from Yoruga no Sora緣の空, and this is a R18 GALGAME about Brother and sister incest and ends up by close relatives get married, they kinda just used it's music in television news (imagine CNN using pornfilm musics), they kinda just find a music with some kinds of emotion, like smooth or excitement, and just use it.
@@quanyuan6760 What does an American/Hollywood film have to do with you bringing up Japanese music? Anyways I know what you mean. I think.
Mongol Chiuud It's a Japanese music company who got copyright of every music, and Chinese government just bought their product which is license to use their music library, it's more like a Spotify thing, not for personal use but for products of big companies and governments,
Hopefully someday, Manchuria, along with Tibet, Xinjiang, and Inner Mongolia, will all gain independence and form their own nations. Manchuria will be allowed to teach the Manchu language to everyone.
You are humorous
Thank you
If you are literate to search wiki encyclopedia, you will find Han population accounted more than 90% of Manchuria. In Inner Mongolia, Mongolian population makes up less than 20 % of the whole population. Your claim is just like a drunkard's nonsense. I was born in Shenyang and lived there for 3 decades, the largest city in Manchuria and travelled all over three provinces in Manchurian. Manchuria is just a name. Can you imagine a land with 95% inhabitants being Han Chinese be independent? If you utter your claim in Manchuria, you will be treated as a mental patient. In the late 19 century and 20 century, even the powerful Russian empire and Japan empire couldn't rule Manchuria for long time. You know why? That was because there were 4000 Han Chinese immigrants in Manchura. Now there are 100million Han Chinese there. I hope you could visit and witness the Inner Mongolia and Manchuria to watch your daydream evaporate.
@@francoislee1658 so if Japan colonize China and make it 95% Japanese then it's part of Japan? Lol
@@francoislee1658 okay, how about take a portion of the northeast, and whichever Han are living in the area can swap places with the Manchu that are living in other places in China. And if that idea is too unrealistic, make it similar to how Israel and Palestine was in 1948, where some parts were mostly Palestinian Arab, while some parts were mostly Israeli Jewish. The Han that live in the north east can stay, but all the sparsely populated land should be utilized to build a manchu state, and then encourage all Manchu to migrate to the sparsely populated land.
Musei Manju!
No more blood waiting ( to much headaches ) (UO)🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Dnt fought chinese people,we are also the lost brothers and sisters somewhere from china.Love china from north east India,Naga.
Here, my ancestors were Manchu lol
Did anyone else find it trippy that the Manchu grandpa's eyes are blue?
Mongolians had a bad impression of Manchus. Actually, they are our ancestors too.
Bad? Manchu royals and Mongol royals marries each other for hundreds years and a commoner said it’s bad, lol
@@huhuhuhu2470 Yeah, right?
@@turuus5215 poor people do exist in mongol community.
@@huhuhuhu2470 yeah, some typical rude Chinese troll.
To sum up: they were the first muslim-turkic nomadic people who came from northern side of asia. Now I understood why chinese translator in istanbul said that we were blood brothers of somewhere of china.
You're thinking of the Uighurs. The Manchus were Tungusic and practiced Tibetan Buddhism and shamanism.
Muslim?😂😂😂 dont make me laugh. East asian dont pray to an arab desert man
Manchu influenced the culture of the Han people. 满族文化影响了汉族文化。
His shoes ? it is a women shoe
I was in Changchun a few weeks ago and I've managed to meet a few Manchus. I even taught them some Manchu phrases, including "thank you" (baniha), to get them to keep in touch with their ancestral heritage. 😁
Sain baniha for doing a very good thing for manchu people.
thats cool haha
Baniha de age deo🤫🤫🤫
❤️❤️❤️
这是沼泽开路用的
这些割人的稻草。
real manchu would have unusual large nose
The han chinese genetically have large, wide heads, porcupine like hair, and narrow shoulders.
The difference between all these cultures that conquered other territories (Manchu people invading Han China, Turco-Mongol of the Mughals invading India etc.) is that they actually assimilate into the culture of the territory they conquered. The Manchu empire that would be the Qing Dynasty became more Chinese than Jurchen/Manchu, and the Mughal Empire became more Indian as their conquerors adapted and assimilated into the ways of the people that now live under their rule. It's not like colonizing countries like France, Britain or Spain who instead of assimilating into the culture they completely wanted to replace it with their own (Spain and Portugal have done this for pretty much forever but France and Britain would get into this whole gimmick of "replacing" culture later on). I guess that today it's just that there are many Manchu people but have become closer to the Hans, the culture that their ancestors assimilated into. Of course they brought with them some traditions, but if they fade away it's just a result of centuries of assimilation.
Better go home and sleep ! Why so stubborn care of it? My culture is yours and your culture is mine. You and I also on the same ship. If sink everyone will sink.
We already titanic by manchu..
No ,more manchu
i feel like the manchu language is going to end like hebrew
language will die but gets revived
well manchus ruled china for about 300 years or so, and the language was made one of the official national languages for china hence. All qing dynasty documents and files were written in manchu and chinese, and so as long as there is written records left the language will not disappear.
反清复明
No you can’t eat them
Their face looks the same in china..
My great grandmother was a Manchu princess but I just classify as Chinese.
Yes princess. My grandpa was a fujian farmer. 😂 We still speaks our dialect till today. 🤣
Free Tibet
Tibet is already free from endia
Go bath in some ganga
Tibet is already free from feudalism.
Qing is not China. Qing is Korea. Qing Dynasty is Kim Dynasty.
Fake news here!
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Kim in my hokkien dialect means Gold. Sio kim zhua. Burn hell notes for you.
哈哈哈！滿州人的文字和語言與高麗人都不同，神話故事也不同。你是小醜嗎？笑死人！
Don't forget that in Nanhan Mountain City, Li zong（조선 인조） knelt down and called "Dad Huang Taiji, you are slaves for thousands of years, you are descendants of Malays, and even genetically different from North Korea. Shameful people, don't lie."
Many Manchurians along with other Chinese were used as live experimental objects by the Japanese military under Puyi's rule. And almost all the agricultural and industrial products were controlled by the Japanese and ship back to Japan. One of the reasons why their number becomes so small is slaughtering and starvation during the Japanese occupation.
Rolland Ibrahim They aren’t that small, there are 10 million of them... they’ve just assimilated so you can’t tell them apart from the han
Except that Puyi didn't really rule, he was just a puppet for the japanese. And the experiments were kept really secret, I doubt Puyi knew of their existence.
@Jack Jacky yeah and the Koreans lived happily under Japanese rule, right?
Hans were the assimilations of over a hundred or more ethnicity (Qin, Yen, Han, Chi, Chu, Wei, etc) throughout the few thousand years of Chinese history. All people were recognised as "Han" during the Han dynasty & thereafter.
@@rickychang2893 These Kingdoms were consisted of the same people. Baiyue peoples were more distinct and their bloodlines descended to the ethnic minorities such as Zhuang, Wa, Dai, Li and Kam etc.