cant believe a gangster, tough, funny, hood series rebooted into this hipster white boy rich cringey nerd friendship crap justin bieber trash. they should rename this game and make proper saints row like in the old days. lucky i never bought it. i "downloaded" it today and play for 30 minutes and uninstall it and hoop back to SR 2 and SR 3 Remastered to clean my brain
ehh.... no. I wanted an over the top gangster game with a good urban story again. I didnt want the sci-fi parody game. That wasnt SR either. The reboot at the vey least is about gangs, even if its story and protagonists are wayy off. Saints Row hasnt had a good story since SR2. SRIVs that barely made sense, and GOOH's was them trying too had to be funny at all times. They had their problems too, that the reboot just adopts but changes the look of.
My top list is change Sr R is not the 4th anymore but lower The bad games 7 sr Gat out of hell 6 agents of mayhem 5 saints row reboot The oke games 4 saints row 4 3 saints row the third The best games 2 saints row the original 1 saints row 2
I played the story srR 2 times and i say it is worst than saints row 4 Saints row 1 and 2 wil always be the better ones They don't have to bring back Johnny Gat But at least they could created believeble gangsters Kinzie was not my favorite in 3 and 4 but i liked her more than Neenah i like sr3 and sr4 version of Shaundi more than Neenah but sr2 version of Shaundi is better
@@WHATaOG Disney makes a lot of adult stuff just under different names because they own a lot of companies. They make Mayans MC because they own FX and that show is dark af.
after volition called fans on twitter terrorists for not liking the game and saying they were "updating the game for modern audiences" and removing the saints row humor, I lost all respect for them. It sucks we aren't ever gonna get a good GTA competitor again since rockstar is sitting down fine milking cut GTA 5 singleplayer DLC for 9 years now with little effort and high profit. But this should be a lesson in why trying to cater to people that don't enjoy your game and attacking said fans for not liking your game is a bad idea.
I lost all respect for them when they praised reddit mods for what they were doing censoring criticism, and denying content creators review copies who they knew were not going to like it. But this game is so disappointing, because its story sucks, and there is nothing that feels actually gangster about it all. It feels like they probably just watched breaking bad once, and then tried to do that but given it a hipster twist, when nobody wanted that. Where are the other things about being a cool gangster? The hot women, the street cred, the clubs, the drugs, the hip hop scene, whatever. I dont know who this game was made for, and they wasted a perfectly good window to set the standard before GTA6 but they didnt listen to fans and flat out said we were a loud minority that the didnt want in their fanbase anymore, before that bitch deadlysteph went private.
@@mrcocoloco7200gta fanboys and fans are different fans are just people who like the game and fanboys are the people who defend rockstar no matter what
and now volition got absorbed into another studio because of this release well we told them what we wanted but ignored us and calling us haters for not liking this “repoop” can’t say i feel sorry for them.
Yeah I don't feel bad for Volition, they get what they deserve And I hope that piece of shit CM manager DeadlySteph gets fired We had IdolNinja as a CM manager, and he was a million times better than Steph, and was overall a better human being, RIP Mike Watson aka IdolNinja
The didnt listen to us since SRTT, so I saw it coming. It finally backfired on them. But this team has shown to be just incompetent in programming and ignorant to what this reboot was expected to be. They even ignored the SR1 anniversary for this shit.
"Ah no no… That's not how this book is written. The Saints legacy ends here, not with a bang, but with a whimper." This what happens to not only to this series to the studio itself
Bruh all they had to do was take saints row 2 and ad a new mission dlc and then just do that like fallout 3 Bethesda is honestly the goat whenit comes to sequels
Mafia 3 portrayed perfectly how 3 members of opposing gangs would act if they had to work together. The first time Cassandra (Haitian mafia), Burke (Irish mafia) and Vito (Italian mafia) meet they almost kill each other if it weren't for Lincoln and they spend the rest of the story at each other's throats which is believable since not long ago they were enemies. This reboot expects us to believe that the members of ruthless gangs get along as if they were college students.
@@mohdadeeb1829 tbf the game was down right unplayable at time. Heck for a while I couldn't even finish the game because of a bug in the last mission. But the voice acting, characters and story were just as great as they always are in Mafia games.
@@wevon8233 yeah at least Lincoln is actually terrifying gangster unlike soy boss example like Lincoln hang a man and moment where he cut Saul s brother s throate and he hung he's brother s body in status and where he burns a man this are things the boss would do I
@@mohdadeeb1829 Well to be fair, when most of the gameplay is same set of missions for like 75% of it, and other is the cutscenes, unique missions and whatever else, its kinda understandable. Granted DLC's were mostly laid out better, tho not with strong as stories.
@@mohdadeeb1829 since SR1, the car customizing shop was called "Rim Jobs", which is not only a reference to working on car rims, but also a sexual innuendo. Then in SR Reboot, they changed it to "Jim Robs", because of the character that owns the place, but the sexual innuendo is gone. The same thing happened with the fast-food chain Freckle Bitches, a parody of Wendy's, featuring a scantily-clad redhead woman. Now it's "FB's", because that was deemed offensive.
@@NathanielClay funny thing, 3 is actually the only one I played, but after watching Pro play both 1 and 2, I missed out on what we got, it’s a shame volition will never make remasters of SR 1 and 2, I don’t even care if they would’ve looked bad, just as long as it runs well and doesn’t have much crashes or frame drops, but as Volition said themselves, they’re a different company now
@@NathanielClay Too bad its campaign really sucked after the first playthrough. Too many activities forced into the main story and the lack of an actual character story outside of Angel. SRTT was disappointing, with the bland world, nothing to interact with, barely anything to do outside the story and nothing new because all the activities are in the main story. They messed up what SR2 did perfectly.
@@GeteMachine Yeah it was super hit and miss, I can't lie though they were fun. I actually found a lot of the side activities, like Genki and ragodoll minigames more replayable. The assassination missions are OK.
I was thinking the same watching a lot of this game footage. Listening to dialogue, watching cutscenes. I was sitting here thinking: "No way were the devs being serious here. They MUST be mocking ultra-progressive hipsters. They can't be serious." Unfortunately, they *were* serious and this game is no parody.
I'm convinced we need another blazing saddle's for the modern age. We need a game that is so over the top offensive and just rips into everybody in a funny way. I kept thinking: "Wow wtf? What Merc talks like this? Bro what the fuck are these clown ass characters." I would make a DLC where you play as the old boss with Gat Shaundi and Peirce from SR2 come in hearing about these clowns taking their name and the whole goal is to destroy the new saints completely and take over their assets. You fight cringe boss and his friends and kill them to take the city back over as "The Boss".
The reason the map doesn't feel alive is simply bc the devs don't have any lives in the real world outside of Twitter, so they don't know what ppl would even be doing outside
I like the idea of the characters being in separate gangs because it add something unique. Somehow, they mess it up. Like instead of being them friends, they could have make them rivals until they are abandoned from their own gangs and they decided to work together to form the Saints. Imagine a movie where a blood, crips, a neo Nazi, and a Latin King are abandoned by their gangs and they are force to work together to defend them. Volition easy could have did that better.
I think the logical story they could have had from that was to say have the enemy gangs go after them because they're traitors and still keep the blood in blood out thing or for whatever reason their gangs wants to confront them over debts owed, and not over student loans obviously but in real life over money, they owe from say drug or sex trafficking, and they work together because they're afraid of their gang leaders at first. The Boss could have been a soldier for a normal security group (not a futuristic one) but his squad was killed or something fighting with the enemy gangs who have military level gear like some irl cartels. Then the Boss quits due to survivors guilt, then they form a new gang on a common goal, form respect for each other, learn about each other through their old gang roots and take out the other gangs in the same spirit of the original games. None of this start up stuff, no waffle maker bs, no cats, no cat waffles, no artifacts. The Nuhalli could have just been the head honcho kingpin.
1:27:22 This section of Professional talking about how he would change the story is great. But what I would choose the main villain to be is not a corrupt police chief, but instead Eli. I saw that hint in the stupid money fight scene & I thought that could've been foreshadowing. Eli betrays the Saints for not going with his plans & not being appreciative, so he sets up the ambush in the church & joins the Marshall. The game ends with the Boss killing Eli, & afterwards, he/she becomes a heartless savage like the OG boss
I don't know of the top of my head how it would work, but if you wanted a twist villain, Kevin would be the last one if suspect. Have the chick (I forgot her name already) be a sacrificial lion, and Eli hardens into a Dex like character that maybe would betray us in the sequel, or be galvanized into a loyal homie.
@@R30STV All the characters are cringe. But if you rewrite the story in a more dramatic finish, then I can see Eli as an under appreciative brains behind the Saints, being misused because he's a pacifist & sort of the weak link. But the more the boss takes him out shooting, the more he has the urge to be like the others. But the others don't want that because he's better at being the brains & not a gunman. Conflict ensues & Eli ultimately decides to turn on the Saints, making him an unexpected tragic character
Bruh this boss wouldn’t kill eli and same goes for Eli can’t kill the boss and woudlnt consider it cause then they can’t LARP and K A R A O K E together
The main reason the opening of SR2022 is so weird is we're given very little investment into the player and his friends's backstory. In most open world games including Saints Row they introduce characters typically fairly gradually and have stories exclusive to them. Like in GTASA right at the start of the game, Ryder, Big Smoke and Sweet all have missions that define their characters and their relationship with CJ. Like CJ has Tagging up Turf with Sweet where they spray graffiti. And it portrays Sweet as reliable and their relationship is clearly really strong. There's also Ryder with Ryder where you get a haircut with him and hold up a pizza place. Big Smoke has missions like Drive Thru and others later. Each of the characters in that game feel very distinct and part of that is the player spends a lot of time with them alone. In SR2022 they keep telling you the player is friends with these people but I never really understand why or what their relationship is actually like.
What’s actually good about the idea of the characters starting in different gangs but later forming the Saints is actually how the gang was formed in the first game. Julius was originally a Vice King, but when he thought the gang had gone soft he decided to leave and form the Saints. And 1:04:00 who the hell thought this was a good idea?!
Rather than the cringe rant the Boss has at the beginning, they could have ranted to themselves on how they can be a better leader than Gwen. Considering the Boss was able to secure the Nahualli their own way, I could see the Boss begin to show how they want a leadership position. This would later play out when the Boss wants to make his own gang as the leader of it. They know they are capable of being a leader and they can get the job done.
They’re a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to killing and a bit inconsistent, like one minute they’re fine with killing, the next they’re just looking at it like it’s the worst thing ever
@@GeteMachine well you get to kill most of the idols collective, that is if we’re counting them as leaders, but yeah that’s another thing that ticked me off, you don’t get to have the satisfaction
I'm thankful to have such an awesome TH-camr who goes above and beyond for their own fans. I'm not angry you took this long to get this video out, as good things come to those who wait. As somebody who loves Saints Row since the moment I played SR1 and SR2, and even took a risk on SRTT and SRIV and ended up really enjoying them in the end (GOOH as well), I was so damn disappointed with the reboot from the moment Volition went with game journos/SJWs/college kids/whoever over actual gangsters/badasses/interesting characters. Volition treating their fans like garbage didn't help and the "t-word behavior" comment was the last straw for any chance I had in playing this game. Thank you for playing SRR so I don't have to, and thank you for making this review as a whole.
The game just erased too much of the cool satirical hip hop stylishness I hoped from a reboot. I just couldnt believe how Volition couldnt handle criticism, and acted ilke they made this game jus for themselves, game journalists and kids, while they didnt care what fans thought.They said they werent going to back down when people saw the charcters it to be bad, and it was. I just wont support them or this game and now it seems like their arrogance pretty much was their downfall. They were so tough against fans but act like such cowards from game journalsts who convinced them to hate their old games.
My idea of a story would've been like this: You start up as nothing but a broke teenager with no education, no proper housing or anything. You live around the neighborhood with your friends and you guys known to be some small time criminals in there. At first, you'll start doing basic stuff like robbing stores, stealing cars, etc And by time, you'll start getting involved into more shit and you'll end up robbing one of the gangs, stealing a big shipment of drugs from them. That will piss off the gangs so much and they'll start attacking, maybe kidnapping one of your homies to build up the conflict and you'll have to rescue him. After that, your boss will get kinda pissed off from these and he'll take a decision to wipe them out and take over their areas. Then at this moment, one of your friends will reach out to some poor guys they know from the neighborhood similar to johnny gar's recruitment mission from SR2 and you'll bring them into the gang as foot soldiers. After that, the boss will form his own gang however, it will not be the 3rd Street saints at first, you'll start off as an unknown crew that rocks black instead of purple and you'll start doing some stuff to increase your gang's reputation. You'll start dealing drugs, attacking enemy gangs, taking over enemy territories and people will start taking notice of your gang and they'll start joining you and by the time you take down the first gang, your gang will be much stronger than it was and the boss will eventually do some sort of a meeting similar to the one in SR2 and announce the gang as the third Street saints. After that, you'll start going after the stronger gangs. There'll be 3 other different gangs after taking down the first gang and you'll need to weaken them, steal their business and attack their leaders to finish them off. And you'll see how these gangs crumble apart when you attack them and how your gang develop around the story. After you take down the first gang that owns saints row, your gang will turn from a weak crew of criminals to an actual gang called the 3rd Street saints After you take down the three other gangs before attacking Marshall, your gang will turn from a gang to a full on cartel with members rocking more expensive cars and weaponry And after you take down Marshall, you'll basically become the kingpin of your city and in the final cutscene. Your character will sit in a balcony, watching his city while smoking a Cuban cigar, showing himself how he turned from a small time gangster to a kingpin That would be cool
Stilwater is one of (if not) the best open world maps ever created. I mean there’s so much diversity in every district, so much enterable buildings and secret hideouts it’s insane.
And the range of activities performed by the NPCs was very impressive for the time - skateboarding, reading books, having romantic moments, and in rare occasions, suicidal NPCs jumping off of cliffs. All these activities performed by the NPCs made Stillwater feel alive, whereas Steelport didn't have any of that and thus felt dead. And contrary to what the female 1 voice sometimes says, the people of Stillwater were much better looking than the people of Steelport.
@@Mr-Green0ot a big thinker are you? Being a ganster requires some strong will and strong arming people. Your typical leftoid Starbucks lover is not strong and resents people who are strong. Most physically strong people are men.
The point of The Nahualli is that he represents the old Saint Row series, namely 1 and 2. The current Boss and his friends are the current developers and this title. The interactions between the two is basically the currents dev acknowledging the originals by introducing him as a badass........just like the original Boss. He kills Sergio because the original Boss killed the bosses in the older games. He is written to try and be friends with the current Boss and their crew because the current devs want this game to stand along side the older titles. Nahualli then tries to bury the current Boss (with the devs saying that older fans prefer Saints Row 1, 2 and maybe 3) and kidnap their friend kidnaps (this time the devs saying that those titles would surpass this one) and him getting killed at the end (the dev's ego as a whole saying that this title is the superior one in the series). And also, the speech at the church during the gang's formation in this game is Voltition (The Boss) talking directly to us, the audience (the Saints members) about how they feel about the franchise as a whole.
Getting beaten up to join a gang is a very realistic aspect of being inducted into one. Hazing/initiation rituals like that are ubiquitous with criminal organizations it's just how they operate.
This was so worth the wait. Im talking bout the review not the reboot. Excellent pacing, great presentation and amazing pointers here. Your review is amazing . Top notch quality Professional. You nailed it man. Its honestly disappointing and quite embarrasing to be a saints row fan now with this new volition in charge and the reboot
I don't know if I could make it through five minutes of this game without my head exploding- yet you've managed to dedicate so much time, effort, and research into this review. Massive props to you.
30 minute mark is where i had to quit. i couldn't bear to keep listening to that awful game dialogue... i commend The Professional for actually finishing the game lol
This is why gamers are going back to older games,simple easy and fun and made sense. We got the EA boss telling us for BF5 “if you don’t like the game don’t buy it” ….we didn’t. You have the days gone dev bitching and crying about players not paying full price for games at launch but…87% if games don’t come out fully finished and are riddle with bugs. Then cyberbug lied to everyone secretly not showing real gameplay…last of us part 2 paying journalists to write fake reviews to bump up the rating and ofc the fan base is COMPLETELY divided because of the choices made in the writing and how the story played out now…this company is …actively lashing back out at customers and fans of the games because there in denial. I’m done ranting and I’m beginning to lose faith in video games.
I wouldn't say all of the classics were perfect back then, there was still a good amount of shovelware on all sorts of platforms. But it was the time when big companies pushed a lot for great games, when they tried to innovate and come up with something that's actually good or is even pushing the boundaries of the genre they were working in. There were tons of great games every year, and while there were certainly still stinkers alongside them, the great hits always outnumbered them. Now? It's certainly not the same... We still get some great games here and there, but there's nowhere near as many as there used to be before. Most of the games releasing these days are actually quite average, and those in large amount are the fabled triple-A titles that used to be bringing in much innovation to the industry before. Well... Let me tell you something. Today, most corporations push profit over creativity. They squeeze out as much of the most scumbag corporate tactics in the video gaming industry as possible in hopes of earning maximum profit. They don't even care if the games they're making are bad and they receive them a massively negative reputation amongst the customers, they'll be fine so long as they find themselves rolling in cash from all the most bland design choices, crunched developers, DLCs, microtransactions and broken launches. People unaware of the industry at large fall into the predatory schemes of those corporations. They essentially enable all of them to continue doing this because they're not going to stop buying those games. EA continues to push awful live-service soccer titles with heaps of microtransactions and scumbag decisions every year because casual players buy their games and microtransactions anyway, or in other words, the casual players enable EA's predatory behavior. It's because people are complacent with mediocrity that we get more of it shoveled into our faces. The mobile market especially is a huge example of that, it's practically consumed by the greed of scummy developers and corporate executives. I see games such as Cyberpunk 2077 and Saints Row Reboot as corporations thinking they are geniuses who are ready to fool all the customers to get as much profit as possible. CD Projekt Red not only lied, but literally SPAT into our faces with all the stuff they've been doing behind the curtains and closed doors. In fact, they were so willing to do it, the shallow apologies they've delivered after the game's launch showed just how much they only cared about the money. There's absolutely no excuse to what they've done, they were the most deserving of what was coming to them. And even though they've patched out a lot of bugs over those past two years, that doesn't change the fact that they still lied and that they still allowed this entire mess to happen to begin with. It especially doesn't help them because their lies are still out there on the Internet and in the game itself. CD Projekt Red earned good bank with this and is already making a ton of games for the future, dropping Cyberpunk 2077 after just one DLC. They've never delivered on their promises, so neither will they try to in the future. I will never forgive them for this, and I will never forget about what happened to this huge disaster of a video game launch. While Volition's Saints Row 2022 wasn't necessarily lying to it's fans, they were not holding back on punching them all in the faces, taking a dump on their beloved franchise that was already run into the ground and lying in it's casket, closing the lid and hammering in the final nails just before covering it all up with dirt and sand... all while out in the middle of the desert, hoping it'll be forgotten by everyone. This is the kind of world we live in now. The world where corporations have become so savage over the years that they are willing to deceit everyone to earn a bigger paycheck for their yet another yacht and mansion sets. And not only just that, because they're ready to even go as far as attack their own customers just because they were not willing to eat up the turd that was offered up to them on the silver platter and which was somewhat nicely decorated but was also still just a turd. I suppose today's Volition were right in something. The people and the industry have changed... ... And for the worse.
Bottom line fellas I’m sure we’ve been playing games for a while long enough to know what a good game is. GameStop was still good enough to go in there for them to pester us with “would u like to sign up with us for a power up rewards card ”,long enough to at least once in our life…blow on the back of a game cartridge to only put back into the gaming console to not work for the 11th time,DLCs was extra content …not content that should’ve been already put into the game with major patches behind it. My point since I’m sure a majority of us are in our 20s and we know a good game when we see it and today and most of them are absolutely abysmal
Also don't forget the songs in Saints Row 2 in the game they are amazing. That song introduced me to bands like Deftones, Taking Back Sunday, My Chemical Romance (I listened to their songs before and I didn't know the name of the bands at the time) and Paramore (the main source of where I first heard her song Misery Business).
I couldn’t even watch the playthrough for the cringe but i still left a like for his dedication to survive the cringe and i hope this is the last “saints row”video because i had to watch the entire SR2 playthrough to remember how good this franchise used to be and also thanks pro for the amazing review it was very well done.
I watched the reboot playthrough just to see The Professional's reactions to the cringe, but I did not enjoy watching the actual story. This review was well put together though and hopefully The Professional gets plenty of attention from the video.
The old Saints Row are awesome back in the mid to late 2000s and the only people who has ever remembered Saints Row 1 & 2 is us! I think it’s time we should give the whole world a wake up call and respect the old style of Saints Row 1 & 2.🤘🏽⚜️
That carlos scene it always hits me hard. Saint 2 will always be the king of the saints games. And props to you professional I honestly dont see how ya can stomach playing it, couldn't pay me to play it. Glad I listened to the other saints, I didn't listen when came to gta online on pc and oh boy. And if they don't fix it, the will never see another dime from me. Voting with my dollar, Not supporting companies that hate its customers or bleed them dry.Thank you for your video professional!
As someone who has never played a Saints Row game, this "reboot" has accomplished only one thing - making me want to check out the previous games and appreciate the effort put into them. I now have Saints Row The Third on my PS4, but I will consider playing the first two and maybe the fourth one as well in the future, even though I have heard of how batshit crazy it is. So, thank you, Volition. Hope you guys are proud of yourselves and also super excited now that you got merged with Gearbox as a result of your spiteful and disrespectful attitude towards your fans.
Do you know what could have been a big twist for this game? If Nahualli killed the boss and his friends after they suggested they have Team Building exercises. Afterwords, he buries the boss and his friends, YOU become Nahualli and work to take over the city with your crew. And it would be revealed that the beginning scene of the game was just a dream that the boss had one night, and it really didn't happen. But, of course, asking a twist like that would be too much for Volition to handle.
When you said you go and take revenge on the gang’s territories and just killing and destroying a bunch of things for Neenah but then there’s never a reaction from the gang’s perspective is actually wild to me
The Warriors game by Rockstar actually had story where Cleon and Vermin are part of Destroyers gang. They get betrayed by leader and form The Warriors gang. It's very good game and it's based on The Warriors movie but actually expands story more.
I've been thinking about it these past months and I slowly come up with how I could make these characters and gangs better and more badass. The player: I still think that he works okay as he begins with Marshal (not the whole cringe stuff of course). But unlike in this game in my story the four characters would live in the same apartment, but just don't tell each other that they're in different gangs, and they may not even be full members off the gang maybe they're associates. The player is with Marshal at the beginning, but like with the mission in the museum something could happen that causes the player to get fired. Maybe instead of some Codex, he had to guard a bank full of money or gold, and all three main gangs (let's say Marshal is more like Ultor, and there could be a fourth gang) attack the place, knock out the player and steal everything. He gets fired and is devastated. But this is about the same time that he finds out about his friends being in the other gangs, and he considers beating them up until he has to save them and how that happens I'll explain now. Nina: She's still similar to how her role as a mechanic is in the gang, but she's also a bit like Jessica in Saints Row 2 at the start and his the girlfriend off the gang's boss at the beginning, and at the start of the game she begins to suspect he's cheating on her which turns out to be true. This causes her to snap and murder several members before confronting Sergio. Sergio being a sadistic guy that he is, dumps her in the trunk of her car and has her tossed into a cliff. This is were the player hears about this and decides to save her. Eli: Now, I'm making his character very different and also make up an additional fourth gang that could like a maffia like the Ronin and the Vice Kings from the first two games. They're a gang that control the areas around midtown and the casino strips, which is also how they make their money. Eli is like an accountant, banker or administrator that helps them with money laundering and such, but not involved with fire fights and such. However, at the start of the game he's caught by the feds and his gang refuses to help him since they can erase any connection with him and so they leave him to his fate. Once again, the player finds out and has to murder the police team that's about to bust Eli's office. Kevin: I'm also kind of changing the idols here, instead of communist anarchist, they're kind of like the Rollers or Sons of Samedi or even the Luchadores that like to push their associates around. And Kevin could be made like Veteran Child who does drug dealing for them, but is never given a fair cut because he has some skeletons in his closet with gambling, cheating and drug use and the idols use that to push him around. Eventually he can't take it anymore and badly injures one of the bosses, but is then kidnapped and about to the executed. The player finds out and also rescues him. At the end of these missions where you save the three others, and you come back together at home. At first the characters don't get along so well until the players steps up and says: Alright you motherfuckers, listen up. I don't care where you came from or what flag you carried. We've been in the same old shit for years, and we all found our own way into getting out of it. But why should we do it for ourselves if we can combine our powers together to get of this live of bills and poverty. (Or some quote like that). Finally you also have Nahualli, and how I would re write his character is like this. He's the leader of a gang that gets exterminated by Marshal at the beginning of the game. His gang lives in the badlands and desert, and Marshal wants to evict everyone violently to start drilling for oil there. After you rescue Nahualli he becomes your mentor like Julius, but also tell some wise words. You think you're the first one to take a step against the big men of this stinkin nation, that have more interest in themselves instead of the common man. We're all the same people in a mad world, outcasts who have lost their lives due to wars and corruption. Prostituted and dumped by pimps like Marhsal. At the end of the game he could also still betray you, but have the same motivation as Julius. He believes you've become the guy you fought against, but he's also a hypocrite like Julius. He was fine with drugs and prostitution, but developed a conscience too late.
Saints Row 2 was the peak of the series. Easily accessible for anyone, even a kid could just play it (although you wouldn’t want them to). The first game is good, but not half as good as people want to remember. The gameplay, difficulty, and frustrating mechanics made it difficult to just relax and enjoy. 3 was the biggest disappointment because it came off the back of 2, and it downgraded everything, from building interiors, to all the random side character that made the original city more alive. Saints Row 1 had all this stuff. 4 was fun. But it wasn’t Saints Row.
Here’s the thing about the karaoke: it CAN work for a gang but ONLY if it’s not mentioned in the main story, or if it is VERY LITTLE. Think about the yakuza games for instance: amazing storylines and a fairly accurate representation of the Japanese mafia (as accurate as you can make a game where you beat people up with motorcycles), and yet you can do karaoke as a mini game and it doesn’t seem out of place at ALL because karaoke is a big part of Japanese culture and you expect hardened criminals to still have some down time and have hobbies like normal people. Saints row on the other hand rather than have it be a side activity or a small throwaway line they just shoehorn it into the plot and have it be something the characters frequently do and will talk about DURING their criminal activities.
Yakuza also does it in a fitting way. Kiryu is a stoic guy who can't just cry about issues because he is always protecting someone. But he uses Karaoke to cope and express emotions that he can't express otherwise. He never interrupts the plot to go sing while his friends are kidnapped because the plot is always focused, even if the side content is wacky.
1:03:26 Anyone remember that episode in regular show when the guys need a car to go to “Jim Bros burritos” and once they get a car it was owned by a criminal and he was hiding in the car since the 70’s and tries to steal their burritos and when mordecai punches him, he dramatically gets knocked out, this scene reminds me of that.
And that was a reference to the end of a 70's Turkish movie "Karate Girl", when the heroine shoots the antagonist over and over in an over-dramatic death scene. It even does the zoom-in on thr King's face, like in Karate Girl. All we're missing is a red screen with the word "Son", and it would be a shot-for shot remake of that scene.
Haha exactly or they coulda been part of a movie since in 3 they were in the movie buiseness but volition didnt try every avenue clearly they just rebooted it cause they tried to say that johnny gat was seen as a bad person so they litterally tried to erase all the proper gangsters to suit there new shit game with trash characters which makes it seem like they want nice gsngsters
1:27:17 Well, in my case, Professional, I would have write it like this: The characters are not student kids, they are in their late 20's. The cringe Boss will have the personality of the OG Boss (scary, intimidating but at the same time carying deeply about his homies); Kevin would have more the personality of Gat, combined with a more authenthic anarchist belives; Neenah would have the personality of Lin, but with a more sensible side like Carlos; Eli would still be the unexperienced nerd member and the brains of the gang, but he also would grow up in the story to become also a good fighter like Pierce; and Nahuali would be like the friendly and more fair and reasonable version of Maero (having both of him and his entire gang as a loyal and trustworthy allie, like Mr. Wong, to help the Saints to fight the other factions). The Marshall would be more like an old style cowboy version of Merryweather, without the futuristic stuff; the Panteros would be more like a combination of Los Carnales and The Brotherhood, trafficking both with vehicles and drugs; the Idols would be more like the factions from Mad Max, so primitive and savage, outside of the civilization and more like an authenthic anarchist gang. My story would start with the four main characters seperated in different apartments but still from the same building. The characters would still being members of the different rival gang (The Boss as a Marshall mercenary; Neenah as a Panteros gang member; Kevin as an Idol anarchist), but this time the characters would distrust each other at first, being in a break of war. However, Eli would interfier on their conflict, convincing them to make peace truce, in order to avoid unworth it problems with the law, which it's not gonna benefit anyone at all. A few months passed and the characters are starting to have some dislikes about their own gangs. The Boss would realize how sellfish and *sshole is actually Atticus with his people; Neenah would realize how paranoid and irrational is starting to become Sergio due to his drugs; Kevin would also realize that the Idols are just hypocrites, judging all the time about capitalism and money, but using the capitalist system to make money to benefit their gang, but making pointless all their entire anarchist ideology. Then the 4 characters would start to have financial problems, to the point to move on all of them into the most rundown apartment in the building as roommates, making them more uncomfortable and paranoid than before. But Eli would still be the peacemaker, convincing the 3 of them to live together, as long that they never talk about their respective gang businesses between each other and keeping in secret from their gangs about the fact that they are living now together in the same room. More time passed out, and the 4 characters are actually starting to like each other, realizing how much they have in common, being very alike at the same time. But then their friendly interactions would bring them consequences. Atticus would fire the Boss in the same way that in the final game; Neenah would be betrayed by Sergio due to his paranoia; and the Idols would discover later that Kevin was living with their enemies in the same apartment, so they would send troops of Idols to kill him for a suppose betrayal. After everyone where kicked out one way or another from their respective gangs, that's when they make the Saints, but without all the cringy missions around the game, and more similar to the ones from SR 1, 2 and even a few from 3. Then when the Saints realize that they are still a small gang, compare with the rest of the other factions, they would need the help from another small gang to defeat their enemies. That's when the Boss helped Nahuali to help him getting out of the Marshall prision, after he captured him. But this time Nahuali is not gonna be an insane creepy stalker (nor a possible p*dophile), jealous of the Cringe Boss. He would be a little hostile with the Boss, after he captured him, distrusting him and the Saints at first. But then he would realize how much of potential have the Saints as gang, and his loyalty and friendship, without being so infantil and cringe. Nahuali would use his gang to gave the Saints additional back up for their gang wars and when their gang friendship start it to become much bigger, Nahuali would accept to asimilate his gang and himself with the Saints, making one and much bigger gang, and also gaving to the Saints a few advises to make them much capable to fight. Also Myra would still betraying Atticus, after she realized how careless was with her, compare with the Boss. But this time, Myra also would become a mentor and even a possible mother figure that the Boss never had (which in my own point of view, the Boss' childhood and lack of good parenting was of the main reasons that he became a cold blooded sociopath). Myra also would help the Boss to be more human and also more compationed and sensible with his gang and the people around him, in order to not become into another Atticus that use purple instead of blue. Atticus would be defeat in the same way that in the final game, but Myra now would become an official member of the Saints, convincing a good part of the Marshall staff to make reforms in the company, which that would make the Marshall company to assimilate with the Saints, so the Saints can use the Marshall company as cover for their illegal actions. The Boss would have a fight with Sergio, similar like the first one from Maero, but then he wouldn't manage defeat him, and that's when Nahuali came to rescue him. The main Idol leader would be defeated probably in a same way as the antagonist from the most recent movie of Mad Max, just as a little reference to that movie. The final boss, would be a corrupt chief of police, which he is the one who kidnapped the Boss' friends, including Nahuali and Myra, infiltrating into the Saints HQ, disguised as another Saint gang member, in an attempt to kill the Boss, similar like Nahuali did, but without all the cringe flashback sequence. At the end, the Boss would kill the chief of police and his entire corrupt division, saving Kevin, Neenah, Eli, Nahuali and Myra, while he and his entire friends are looking up the city that all of them own now, being much more meaningful than the final game.
Please pitch this idea to a game company so that way they can make a Good Game And improve saints row and even Make a game to rival GTA Because saints row Was actually A rival to The GTA series
The fast travel in El Dorado is the El Dorado sign itself and not The Varmint sign. The Varmint is a collectable for the HQ walls and probably confuses people because of being so close to this fast travel point
The whole thing with her crashing the car on the billboard onto the police car convince me that the devs watched too much of the new fast and furious movies
Makes me very happy to see someone finally read the context of Steph’s reply to my tweet, most creators haven’t been doing that, but for more context, she was talking about people making fake idolninja twitter accounts and spamming her and another community manager(s) basically over and over calling the game shit. I don’t think “terroris behavior” is an appropriate word choice because people aren’t doing this for political or religious gain, they’re pissed off, I think “harassment” would’ve been a better word choice. -Alecfisher
@@princesslyna4120 Yeah that honestly made the Brotherhood storyline for me. I love the Ronin story but that's sort of Gat's revenge story, and tbh you don't have much of an emotional connection to Aisha herself, its mainly sympathy for Johnny personally. But Carlos struck personally since he helps you at the prologue, and you can tell through the missions that it's personal for the Boss.
@@averymicrowave1713 + Monroe is much worst than Shogo. I never even thought that Shogo was evil. He is just a victim of his own father. Very similar situation with Thor and Odin from God Of War series. Kazuo always treated Shogo in the worst possible way and he never cared about him. I always feel bad for young sons of gangsters. If they had a really good and caring father. They also would be much better people. Same thing with Giorgi from Mafia 3. I know that they did horrible things but they were raised that way and they are young.
As i said before, to me the Nahuali treason was bring up at the last moment when the script was being made (i suppose in the first version Nahuali didnt betray you). Someone believe the betrayal was cool and added it, programmed it and then the developers find themselves against a dire situation: there was no way the gang would survive the Nahuali. So they come up with this cheap scene and "i will protect better our friends" crap. I want to believe this, because if they truly believe the reason goes on with the Nahuali personality they have some serius logic issues...
nah his betrayal was very "smartly" (smartly in quotes because of how obvious it was) hinted, I don't blame you for not getting the hint since any sane person would sleep through the fuckin cutscenes, but when the boss was moping around after being fired he bought a bunch of knives, one of them called a, and i kid you not "Judas 3000" and the same knife in question the boss gifted nahuali.
@@tonyshum5569 no, what i mean is the nahuali was show as a cold and methodologic person. I have to believe that because he spend like 30 minutes with 4 weird randoms now he is really worried about them? Yes the treason was highly hinted but the reason of the treason is still stupid. I mean if he did it in order to take MC empire would be fine. But theres the problem that the gang wouldnt survive tje nahuali (at least not without plot armor)
SR4 was the first Saints Row game I've ever played and little did I know it's actually a gangster game. I had so much fun playing that game that I replayed it over and over again. Same goes for SR3. I love the customization, the story, the characters and the cool weapons. When I finally played SR2, I was mind blown on how gangster that game was. I had trouble with the final mission, but overall it was great. I can even go inside buildings unlike SR3 & SR4. Also I like how each gang has their own cutscenee and story. I never played the original Saints Row game cuz it doesn't have a PlayStation version of it. I played GOFA and AOM, but I wasn't having that much fun and didn't complete it. When I played Saints Row 2022, I wasn't having fun but I completed it and stop playing it altogether. Even though I like the customization and some weapons, I was really disappointed with this game. I can't take this people seriously, the rival gangs don't have their own cutscenes, I hate the dialogue, I was feeling like playing Fortnite, I can't go into buildings, the story didn't make any sense and the DLCs were terrible. Neenah is the only one I see who has potential and more badass unlike the rest of these guys. Someone please tell me why Eli is wearing a suit like he's either going to a high school prom or work at a fancy restaurant? Nobody wears a suit on a daily basis unless they go to work. I like the vibe of the Idols, but they killed it for me. Who are the Idol Collective? What are they're names? I like that every single person except for Ell is in their own separate gang and they will eventually come together, but there's a better way to do it if you do it right. This isn't Saints Row, this is Shit Row. This is not the game I would play multiple times and it's not even fun like SR4. I know SR4 isn't that gangster, but cut them some slack. At least SR4 is fun unlike Shit Row. Volition r'nt to blame cuz they want to go in the direction before Saints Row 3 and how Shandi's character changed. It's Deep Silver's fault cuz they want a new direction because of how the world is today and it failed miserably. Don't fix things that aren't broke.
You know, I gotta take a moment to be honest about something here: I've watched quite a lot of Saints Row reboot reviews from several different people. Big channels and small channels. It seems like these videos came from genuine fans of the series and people that have played games for years and years. To see reviewers rip this game a new one in their own ways while on the same track at the same time really is something. In my opinion, this is probably the worst I've seen a franchise take a turn for the worst. If not THE WORST, it's the worst I've seen in a long time.
The Constant State of Disbelief on your Facecam was the only thing that made these SR22 Clips bearable hahaha. Great Review, had a blast watching the entire Thing!
“Playa” would obliterate “the boss”, but the reason why the past games were better is because that was before wokeness took over, like the pronouns and bringing up student loans, etc., everything is more sensitive and filled with political correctness now unfortunately. It is true when they say “Go Woke, Go Broke” because that’s exactly what happened to Volition, but they don’t learn lessons, so until we stand up to the woke radical leftists, we’re gonna get more games like this. Wokesters can bash this comment all they want, it will not effect me and i wont reply.
I totally agree with you TheProfessional about this game. Additionally I wonder if they have even done any research how gangs operate in the US at this age of time (they did pretty extensive work how gang culture works when they were creating Saint Row 1 back in 2006). Before buying this video game I did watch a lot of educational videos on youtube how the gangs smuggle illegal items/people between borders, what kind of posts they have on social media (some of them show up their weapons made from pure gold, or even their outfits with masks/tattoos on to intimidate their rivals gangs), and how they are making transactions to sell out illegal substances. The setting of this game is even really interesting since a lot of trafficking is happening between the US - Mexico border, and a lot of gangs ways to get on this action. Unfortunately we got bad written story, bad main character, and lifeless city. Few things were interesting in this game, but unfortunately is just overshadowed by so many negatives, with a unstable game. My final score is 3,5/10. Ps. I guess that GTA Online will be able to sell more subscriptions/shark cards, and GTA VI won't have any problems with sales (even if they will realase a total buggy game), since Rockstar (Take-Two Interactive) have now monopoly on crime games.
They did their homework in SR1 but clearly didnt for this game. I mean the story doesnt make sense for a gangland title, if not stupid. Like gangs fighting over a museum artifact like this is tomb raider, or the characters being friendly hipsters while the enemy gangs look more like generic factions from Fortnite, and none of the urban street culture or hip hop feel that the stuff came form. They dint even consider doing cartels or something. They went with... larping, and waffle makers. They looked at this game and actually thought this was better than SR1 or SR2.
It could’ve been a satirical game like any gta game where for this games cringey story case: Twitter users do form a gang and of course they do their misadventures and as they form their criminal empire, there’s benefits and there’s consequences for their actions and they will have to realize what their actions caused around Santo Ileso and actually own up to themselves about it. A sort of coming of age crime story.
You summed up the criticism of the developers very well. But I think it reflects very accurately today's society in general and especially on the internet. Everyone is immediately offended when they are criticised and appropriate criticism is immediately labelled as "hate". I think society has become far too sensitive in recent years due to social media. Of course, there are also people who really overdo it and genuinely insult others, as in this case. But I think the developers are making it far too easy for themselves here by putting all of us in the same category and labelling all of us who weren't satisfied with the game as "haters"....
It would be bad if we were labelled as haters, but they crossed a mile and now we're officially terrorists in their eyes. Like, what the fuck? Not only it doesn't make sense but it's also SUPER DISRESPECTFUL FOR THOSE WHO SPENT MONEY ON THIS JUNK.
I don't understand why you'd do this, build a casino district and have not a single one that's enterable or interactable, it would have been nice if one business you could build been like your own little gambling place, but no Also I'm not sure if it is a feature but It would've been cool if when a sandstorm hit you'd lose notoriety faster
This is like a Crowbcat video but with commentary, nothing else can be added to this review, it's brilliant and well put together. Well done Professional.
Uhhh, the introduction to Saints Row 2022 sounds like something straight out of Ride To Hell. Amazing video, so impressed you could play through this dumpster fire and do all the side content too.
After replaying this game really recently I've come to best conclusion I can make as a fan and just a player in general. The game exudes this "I'm so quirky" energy. The amount of outdated terms and desperate appeal to an audience I'm not even sure existed in the first place is mind melting as well as the random missions that are ACTUAL story missions like going to get a toy for Kevin from Freckle Bitches, Art for Neenah, getting your mail back and some others that escape me. The dialogue and characters connection to it is not only fractured but also very fake considering games like TV shows and movies have world's that in essence have to "convince" you that the world's exist and the people exist within it. The tone and overall story is very strange as well as it doesn't exactly tell a story or convey a message in the least. And taking an educated guess to that, I would say friendship triumphs over all, but that doesn't really make sense considering this is a game about building a criminal empire. Who knows, but that's just my two sense.
I haven't played the game but I tried the Boss Factory. From an artist's perspective, the human anatomy is atrocious. The whole 'gender-neutral' setup creates make-belief bodies that defy human biology. For example hip joints curve inward like a man, yet the thigh gap has a very feminine persuasion. Women look like men (flat hips, broad shoulders) and men look like women (narrow waists, wide thighs). The masculine/feminine slider does little to mitigate this. If you sometimes get this uncanny vibe over the unclear gender of a character, this is why. It's an androgynous, fictional paradise. No matter how hard you try, your character WILL have aspects of the opposite gender. It completely defies science and reality. The usual suspect websites like Kotaku gave high praise to the non-binary customization system, no surprises there. Child-bearing hips? Not in this universe. Women will probably notice these issues more than men. I pray game developers don't continue this trend for the sake of appeasing a small minority of Twitter users. Anyway thanks for the review, Patrick. You put a lot of effort into it. I'm not going to be playing this game, I'll stick with the older games in the franchise. I heard Volition has now merged and became a support studio for Gearbox instead, so who knows if we'll ever get another SR game that fans want.
Boot hill could've been a side gamemode akin to the roguelike style of games that became very popular and liked lately. The whole idea of the mission is that you find random weapons as you progress and they could've turned that into a more polished version where the weapons are ACTUALLY random and you even get random upgrades and permanent progression for more runs making it very replayable and fun, even akin to mercenaries on resident evil.
After watching this video, I loaded up Saints Row (2006) and drove to the nearest movie theater with all my homies to watch some of the cutscenes. Volition clearly had ambition back then. Saints Row (2006) had the best voice acting, city, activities, and even multiplayer compared to this game. Some fun times.
Things that could’ve improved the SR reboot: Make the main characters less cringe. Also have antagonist gangs perspective. And also make the setting of Santo Ileso more alive. Maybe have some towns or small cities in the surrounding desert area. Maybe even have the larpers turn into some mad max bandit gang event. Maybe have each character some development
I really liked the panteros and Idols as a Concept I just wished they had more moments plus those gang cutscenes really give each rival their own personality and How their rivalry is increasingly growing and each gang gets desperate
That fact that volition would rather be merged and destroyed than just listening to their fans is really telling. I have zero sympathy for volition and hope gearbox completely liquidate the company
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The Good: It Ends
The Bad: It Begins
The Cringe: Everything in between
Yup, I agree with you
Plus they should’ve remastered Saints Row 2 instead of releasing this trash 🗑️
"Its like a bunch of Twitter users, trying to form a gang !"
Hahahaha that is so accurate. Good one
cant believe a gangster, tough, funny, hood series rebooted into this hipster white boy rich cringey nerd friendship crap justin bieber trash. they should rename this game and make proper saints row like in the old days. lucky i never bought it. i "downloaded" it today and play for 30 minutes and uninstall it and hoop back to SR 2 and SR 3 Remastered to clean my brain
somehow aliens and superpowers in an open world crime game doesn't seem so bad anymore, oh how times change.
Maybe saints row 4 will age like fine wine. It wasn’t a right time to drink the booze when it’s recently made.
To be fair, I love the dialogue and writing of SR4, but the plot is way out there. Still my second favorite behind SR2 though.
ehh.... no. I wanted an over the top gangster game with a good urban story again. I didnt want the sci-fi parody game. That wasnt SR either. The reboot at the vey least is about gangs, even if its story and protagonists are wayy off. Saints Row hasnt had a good story since SR2. SRIVs that barely made sense, and GOOH's was them trying too had to be funny at all times. They had their problems too, that the reboot just adopts but changes the look of.
My top list is change
Sr R is not the 4th anymore but lower
The bad games
7 sr Gat out of hell
6 agents of mayhem
5 saints row reboot
The oke games
4 saints row 4
3 saints row the third
The best games
2 saints row the original
1 saints row 2
I played the story srR 2 times and i say it is worst than saints row 4
Saints row 1 and 2 wil always be the better ones
They don't have to bring back Johnny Gat
But at least they could created believeble gangsters
Kinzie was not my favorite in 3 and 4 but i liked her more than Neenah i like sr3 and sr4 version of Shaundi more than Neenah but sr2 version of Shaundi is better
Just like BadgerGoodger said. Saints Row 2022 is like Saints Row on Disney Channel.
More like the Disney remakes,soulless,boring,and greedy.
Nah leave Disney alone they can still make good stuff when they let hood people writers a chance
@@WHATaOG Disney makes a lot of adult stuff just under different names because they own a lot of companies. They make Mayans MC because they own FX and that show is dark af.
@@zelloguy true didn’t think about that. They have some good cartoon for young adults too
@@WHATaOG yep
after volition called fans on twitter terrorists for not liking the game and saying they were "updating the game for modern audiences" and removing the saints row humor, I lost all respect for them. It sucks we aren't ever gonna get a good GTA competitor again since rockstar is sitting down fine milking cut GTA 5 singleplayer DLC for 9 years now with little effort and high profit. But this should be a lesson in why trying to cater to people that don't enjoy your game and attacking said fans for not liking your game is a bad idea.
I lost all respect for them when they praised reddit mods for what they were doing censoring criticism, and denying content creators review copies who they knew were not going to like it. But this game is so disappointing, because its story sucks, and there is nothing that feels actually gangster about it all. It feels like they probably just watched breaking bad once, and then tried to do that but given it a hipster twist, when nobody wanted that. Where are the other things about being a cool gangster? The hot women, the street cred, the clubs, the drugs, the hip hop scene, whatever. I dont know who this game was made for, and they wasted a perfectly good window to set the standard before GTA6 but they didnt listen to fans and flat out said we were a loud minority that the didnt want in their fanbase anymore, before that bitch deadlysteph went private.
whenever a company says they are gonna update their product for modern audience, it basically means product is gonna be garbage
Tell em
Why would they bother when no other franchise can match them quality wise....
@@wfanking1187 saints row 2 beat gta 4
Rest in peace Saints Row this series deserves better
I know I wish Volition never listen to those annoying GTA fanboys back in 2008 bro but its over but they deserve it at this point goodbye volition 😢
@@alazaythegamer6636 Some GTA fan Boys. Some actually like this game, but not me.
Wym? I can just go play 3. It's not destroyed
@@mrcocoloco7200gta fanboys and fans are different fans are just people who like the game and fanboys are the people who defend rockstar no matter what
@@shadowviper5160 So they're Rockstar Fanboy instead. lol
and now volition got absorbed into another studio because of this release well we told them what we wanted but ignored us and calling us haters for not liking this “repoop” can’t say i feel sorry for them.
Repoop 🤣😂
Yeah I don't feel bad for Volition, they get what they deserve
And I hope that piece of shit CM manager DeadlySteph gets fired
We had IdolNinja as a CM manager, and he was a million times better than Steph, and was overall a better human being, RIP Mike Watson aka IdolNinja
The didnt listen to us since SRTT, so I saw it coming. It finally backfired on them. But this team has shown to be just incompetent in programming and ignorant to what this reboot was expected to be. They even ignored the SR1 anniversary for this shit.
They gave us the middle finger, so their higher ups gave one to them. Sent them off to a company with an awful ceo. Ironic.
They still have jobs sadly lol. They work in Gearbox now. Probably gonna make Borderlands 4 woke af too
The Saints Row Franchise Deserved Better.
U deserved better…….
Yeah but it’s fucking Volition we’re talking about here.
I hope gearbox saves it, because volition got shut down worked into gearbox
Agreed man. I miss the old volition and saints row
Games now days are made for profit, there is no passion and love for video games and it sucks
"Ah no no… That's not how this book is written. The Saints legacy ends here, not with a bang, but with a whimper." This what happens to not only to this series to the studio itself
Kid named: whimper
Killbane's cryptic message.
Bruh all they had to do was take saints row 2 and ad a new mission dlc and then just do that like fallout 3 Bethesda is honestly the goat whenit comes to sequels
This moment when you know. Killbane was right.
REBOOT IS DEATH.
Mafia 3 portrayed perfectly how 3 members of opposing gangs would act if they had to work together. The first time Cassandra (Haitian mafia), Burke (Irish mafia) and Vito (Italian mafia) meet they almost kill each other if it weren't for Lincoln and they spend the rest of the story at each other's throats which is believable since not long ago they were enemies. This reboot expects us to believe that the members of ruthless gangs get along as if they were college students.
@@mohdadeeb1829 tbf the game was down right unplayable at time. Heck for a while I couldn't even finish the game because of a bug in the last mission. But the voice acting, characters and story were just as great as they always are in Mafia games.
@@wevon8233 yeah at least Lincoln is actually terrifying gangster unlike soy boss example like
Lincoln hang a man
and moment where he cut Saul s brother s throate and he hung he's brother s body in status and where he burns a man this are things the boss would do I
@@mohdadeeb1829 I need to get 2 and 3
@@jakestan1185 and you should also get the mafia remake really amazing game to
@@mohdadeeb1829 Well to be fair, when most of the gameplay is same set of missions for like 75% of it, and other is the cutscenes, unique missions and whatever else, its kinda understandable.
Granted DLC's were mostly laid out better, tho not with strong as stories.
The story feels like a bad sitcom made by an 80 year old. It's like watching that video of the big bang theory without the laugh track.
Lmao even 80 yr olds can write a better story
LOL! more like a bad sitcom made by an 18 year old...
Big Bang Theory wasn't this bad
Like in the Freddie Mercury vs. Frank Sinatra ERB, this game is a "soundtrack to a vasectomy"
@@mohdadeeb1829 since SR1, the car customizing shop was called "Rim Jobs", which is not only a reference to working on car rims, but also a sexual innuendo. Then in SR Reboot, they changed it to "Jim Robs", because of the character that owns the place, but the sexual innuendo is gone. The same thing happened with the fast-food chain Freckle Bitches, a parody of Wendy's, featuring a scantily-clad redhead woman. Now it's "FB's", because that was deemed offensive.
Saints row 1 and 2 fans to 3, 4, and GOoH fans when the reboot came out: “Perhaps we treated each other too harshly”
True, 3 was a solid game despite it's shortcomings, I can replay that game a ton of times if I wanted to
@@NathanielClay funny thing, 3 is actually the only one I played, but after watching Pro play both 1 and 2, I missed out on what we got, it’s a shame volition will never make remasters of SR 1 and 2, I don’t even care if they would’ve looked bad, just as long as it runs well and doesn’t have much crashes or frame drops, but as Volition said themselves, they’re a different company now
GOOH is still bad imo and SRIV isnt a gangster game at all. I'll pass on that.
@@NathanielClay Too bad its campaign really sucked after the first playthrough. Too many activities forced into the main story and the lack of an actual character story outside of Angel. SRTT was disappointing, with the bland world, nothing to interact with, barely anything to do outside the story and nothing new because all the activities are in the main story. They messed up what SR2 did perfectly.
@@GeteMachine Yeah it was super hit and miss, I can't lie though they were fun. I actually found a lot of the side activities, like Genki and ragodoll minigames more replayable. The assassination missions are OK.
I swear this game is a parody, there’s no way they were seriously thinking this was what we wanted the new Saints Row to be.
Facts Man
I was thinking the same watching a lot of this game footage. Listening to dialogue, watching cutscenes. I was sitting here thinking: "No way were the devs being serious here. They MUST be mocking ultra-progressive hipsters. They can't be serious."
Unfortunately, they *were* serious and this game is no parody.
I'm convinced we need another blazing saddle's for the modern age. We need a game that is so over the top offensive and just rips into everybody in a funny way.
I kept thinking: "Wow wtf? What Merc talks like this? Bro what the fuck are these clown ass characters."
I would make a DLC where you play as the old boss with Gat Shaundi and Peirce from SR2 come in hearing about these clowns taking their name and the whole goal is to destroy the new saints completely and take over their assets. You fight cringe boss and his friends and kill them to take the city back over as "The Boss".
They want money from us for this game.
This is insane and terrible.
The reason the map doesn't feel alive is simply bc the devs don't have any lives in the real world outside of Twitter, so they don't know what ppl would even be doing outside
😂
I like the idea of the characters being in separate gangs because it add something unique. Somehow, they mess it up. Like instead of being them friends, they could have make them rivals until they are abandoned from their own gangs and they decided to work together to form the Saints. Imagine a movie where a blood, crips, a neo Nazi, and a Latin King are abandoned by their gangs and they are force to work together to defend them. Volition easy could have did that better.
That’s actually a much more interesting idea than what they did in the reboot
I think the logical story they could have had from that was to say have the enemy gangs go after them because they're traitors and still keep the blood in blood out thing or for whatever reason their gangs wants to confront them over debts owed, and not over student loans obviously but in real life over money, they owe from say drug or sex trafficking, and they work together because they're afraid of their gang leaders at first.
The Boss could have been a soldier for a normal security group (not a futuristic one) but his squad was killed or something fighting with the enemy gangs who have military level gear like some irl cartels. Then the Boss quits due to survivors guilt, then they form a new gang on a common goal, form respect for each other, learn about each other through their old gang roots and take out the other gangs in the same spirit of the original games. None of this start up stuff, no waffle maker bs, no cats, no cat waffles, no artifacts. The Nuhalli could have just been the head honcho kingpin.
Da game is just is piece of rubbish, not one aspect is handled competently
Saints row ip needa be free from embracer
Cause as long as it stays owned by embracer we gon keep gettin asset flips
1:27:22
This section of Professional talking about how he would change the story is great. But what I would choose the main villain to be is not a corrupt police chief, but instead Eli. I saw that hint in the stupid money fight scene & I thought that could've been foreshadowing. Eli betrays the Saints for not going with his plans & not being appreciative, so he sets up the ambush in the church & joins the Marshall. The game ends with the Boss killing Eli, & afterwards, he/she becomes a heartless savage like the OG boss
I don't know of the top of my head how it would work, but if you wanted a twist villain, Kevin would be the last one if suspect. Have the chick (I forgot her name already) be a sacrificial lion, and Eli hardens into a Dex like character that maybe would betray us in the sequel, or be galvanized into a loyal homie.
Na can’t take Eli seriously he’s cringe
@@R30STV All the characters are cringe. But if you rewrite the story in a more dramatic finish, then I can see Eli as an under appreciative brains behind the Saints, being misused because he's a pacifist & sort of the weak link. But the more the boss takes him out shooting, the more he has the urge to be like the others. But the others don't want that because he's better at being the brains & not a gunman. Conflict ensues & Eli ultimately decides to turn on the Saints, making him an unexpected tragic character
Bruh this boss wouldn’t kill eli and same goes for Eli can’t kill the boss and woudlnt consider it cause then they can’t LARP and K A R A O K E together
@@EternalNightingale exactly Eli is corny an nothing gonna change it accept the fact srr failed
"I'd rather play as a scary gangster boss than cringe boss"
Wise words pro
4/10 is way too generous. This is a 2/10 at best.
The main reason the opening of SR2022 is so weird is we're given very little investment into the player and his friends's backstory. In most open world games including Saints Row they introduce characters typically fairly gradually and have stories exclusive to them. Like in GTASA right at the start of the game, Ryder, Big Smoke and Sweet all have missions that define their characters and their relationship with CJ. Like CJ has Tagging up Turf with Sweet where they spray graffiti. And it portrays Sweet as reliable and their relationship is clearly really strong. There's also Ryder with Ryder where you get a haircut with him and hold up a pizza place. Big Smoke has missions like Drive Thru and others later.
Each of the characters in that game feel very distinct and part of that is the player spends a lot of time with them alone. In SR2022 they keep telling you the player is friends with these people but I never really understand why or what their relationship is actually like.
What’s actually good about the idea of the characters starting in different gangs but later forming the Saints is actually how the gang was formed in the first game.
Julius was originally a Vice King, but when he thought the gang had gone soft he decided to leave and form the Saints.
And 1:04:00 who the hell thought this was a good idea?!
Pro's reaction to that scene was priceless
Rather than the cringe rant the Boss has at the beginning, they could have ranted to themselves on how they can be a better leader than Gwen. Considering the Boss was able to secure the Nahualli their own way, I could see the Boss begin to show how they want a leadership position. This would later play out when the Boss wants to make his own gang as the leader of it. They know they are capable of being a leader and they can get the job done.
They’re a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to killing and a bit inconsistent, like one minute they’re fine with killing, the next they’re just looking at it like it’s the worst thing ever
That would have been better than the boss yelling about big balls
@@aldusty2734 Gameplay wise, you don't even actually get to kill any of the bosses in this game yourself.
@@GeteMachine well you get to kill most of the idols collective, that is if we’re counting them as leaders, but yeah that’s another thing that ticked me off, you don’t get to have the satisfaction
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I'm thankful to have such an awesome TH-camr who goes above and beyond for their own fans. I'm not angry you took this long to get this video out, as good things come to those who wait. As somebody who loves Saints Row since the moment I played SR1 and SR2, and even took a risk on SRTT and SRIV and ended up really enjoying them in the end (GOOH as well), I was so damn disappointed with the reboot from the moment Volition went with game journos/SJWs/college kids/whoever over actual gangsters/badasses/interesting characters. Volition treating their fans like garbage didn't help and the "t-word behavior" comment was the last straw for any chance I had in playing this game.
Thank you for playing SRR so I don't have to, and thank you for making this review as a whole.
Same waifu
who's your favourite Waifu?
@@LostMCClaude important question here
What is your favorite waifu you took mr waifu
The game just erased too much of the cool satirical hip hop stylishness I hoped from a reboot. I just couldnt believe how Volition couldnt handle criticism, and acted ilke they made this game jus for themselves, game journalists and kids, while they didnt care what fans thought.They said they werent going to back down when people saw the charcters it to be bad, and it was. I just wont support them or this game and now it seems like their arrogance pretty much was their downfall. They were so tough against fans but act like such cowards from game journalsts who convinced them to hate their old games.
I have a strong respect for the effort you put into this video. You basically made a movie. Let’s get this video to 1mil ✊
My idea of a story would've been like this:
You start up as nothing but a broke teenager with no education, no proper housing or anything.
You live around the neighborhood with your friends and you guys known to be some small time criminals in there.
At first, you'll start doing basic stuff like robbing stores, stealing cars, etc
And by time, you'll start getting involved into more shit and you'll end up robbing one of the gangs, stealing a big shipment of drugs from them.
That will piss off the gangs so much and they'll start attacking, maybe kidnapping one of your homies to build up the conflict and you'll have to rescue him.
After that, your boss will get kinda pissed off from these and he'll take a decision to wipe them out and take over their areas.
Then at this moment, one of your friends will reach out to some poor guys they know from the neighborhood similar to johnny gar's recruitment mission from SR2 and you'll bring them into the gang as foot soldiers.
After that, the boss will form his own gang however, it will not be the 3rd Street saints at first, you'll start off as an unknown crew that rocks black instead of purple and you'll start doing some stuff to increase your gang's reputation.
You'll start dealing drugs, attacking enemy gangs, taking over enemy territories and people will start taking notice of your gang and they'll start joining you and by the time you take down the first gang, your gang will be much stronger than it was and the boss will eventually do some sort of a meeting similar to the one in SR2 and announce the gang as the third Street saints.
After that, you'll start going after the stronger gangs.
There'll be 3 other different gangs after taking down the first gang and you'll need to weaken them, steal their business and attack their leaders to finish them off.
And you'll see how these gangs crumble apart when you attack them and how your gang develop around the story.
After you take down the first gang that owns saints row, your gang will turn from a weak crew of criminals to an actual gang called the 3rd Street saints
After you take down the three other gangs before attacking Marshall, your gang will turn from a gang to a full on cartel with members rocking more expensive cars and weaponry
And after you take down Marshall, you'll basically become the kingpin of your city and in the final cutscene.
Your character will sit in a balcony, watching his city while smoking a Cuban cigar, showing himself how he turned from a small time gangster to a kingpin
That would be cool
"...The cat is also massive cringe, and its name is Snickerdoodle... " 😆😂 Exactly!
This review is bang on the mark so far, 26 mins in.
Stilwater is one of (if not) the best open world maps ever created.
I mean there’s so much diversity in every district, so much enterable buildings and secret hideouts it’s insane.
one L though
Just looks very boring doe
And the range of activities performed by the NPCs was very impressive for the time - skateboarding, reading books, having romantic moments, and in rare occasions, suicidal NPCs jumping off of cliffs.
All these activities performed by the NPCs made Stillwater feel alive, whereas Steelport didn't have any of that and thus felt dead.
And contrary to what the female 1 voice sometimes says, the people of Stillwater were much better looking than the people of Steelport.
@@GTAVictor9128 exactly.
@@emma6648 It's a regular American city. How is it supposed to look?
Let’s just admit that the devs sat down and said “We can’t have hardcore gangsters cause of muh toxic masculinity”
Seriously? This is gangster game. We are not supposed to relate to these characters. We love them as characters. We hate them as people.
What the hell does toxic masculinity have to do with gangsters?
@@Mr-Green0ot a big thinker are you? Being a ganster requires some strong will and strong arming people. Your typical leftoid Starbucks lover is not strong and resents people who are strong. Most physically strong people are men.
@@Mr-Green0game would upset to many twitter people, Gotta make it soft now
Chuds
The point of The Nahualli is that he represents the old Saint Row series, namely 1 and 2. The current Boss and his friends are the current developers and this title. The interactions between the two is basically the currents dev acknowledging the originals by introducing him as a badass........just like the original Boss. He kills Sergio because the original Boss killed the bosses in the older games. He is written to try and be friends with the current Boss and their crew because the current devs want this game to stand along side the older titles. Nahualli then tries to bury the current Boss (with the devs saying that older fans prefer Saints Row 1, 2 and maybe 3) and kidnap their friend kidnaps (this time the devs saying that those titles would surpass this one) and him getting killed at the end (the dev's ego as a whole saying that this title is the superior one in the series).
And also, the speech at the church during the gang's formation in this game is Voltition (The Boss) talking directly to us, the audience (the Saints members) about how they feel about the franchise as a whole.
Getting beaten up to join a gang is a very realistic aspect of being inducted into one. Hazing/initiation rituals like that are ubiquitous with criminal organizations it's just how they operate.
excellent review Professional
This was so worth the wait. Im talking bout the review not the reboot. Excellent pacing, great presentation and amazing pointers here. Your review is amazing . Top notch quality Professional. You nailed it man. Its honestly disappointing and quite embarrasing to be a saints row fan now with this new volition in charge and the reboot
Yeah that's really sad man.
I don't know if I could make it through five minutes of this game without my head exploding- yet you've managed to dedicate so much time, effort, and research into this review. Massive props to you.
I mean, I manage to find fun. by not focusing on the story lol.
30 minute mark is where i had to quit. i couldn't bear to keep listening to that awful game dialogue... i commend The Professional for actually finishing the game lol
They tried so hard to make them the good guys and completely forgot that gangsters aren't good guys
Exactly.
I just played Saints Row 2 (so close to finishing) and realised how this game can even have the same name as that one.
This is why gamers are going back to older games,simple easy and fun and made sense. We got the EA boss telling us for BF5 “if you don’t like the game don’t buy it” ….we didn’t. You have the days gone dev bitching and crying about players not paying full price for games at launch but…87% if games don’t come out fully finished and are riddle with bugs.
Then cyberbug lied to everyone secretly not showing real gameplay…last of us part 2 paying journalists to write fake reviews to bump up the rating and ofc the fan base is COMPLETELY divided because of the choices made in the writing and how the story played out now…this company is …actively lashing back out at customers and fans of the games because there in denial. I’m done ranting and I’m beginning to lose faith in video games.
2022 has been a such bad year for gaming.
Hey. If you stick with classsics. You can never go wrong
@@SoraFan23 it’s very sad tbh.
I wouldn't say all of the classics were perfect back then, there was still a good amount of shovelware on all sorts of platforms. But it was the time when big companies pushed a lot for great games, when they tried to innovate and come up with something that's actually good or is even pushing the boundaries of the genre they were working in. There were tons of great games every year, and while there were certainly still stinkers alongside them, the great hits always outnumbered them.
Now? It's certainly not the same... We still get some great games here and there, but there's nowhere near as many as there used to be before. Most of the games releasing these days are actually quite average, and those in large amount are the fabled triple-A titles that used to be bringing in much innovation to the industry before.
Well... Let me tell you something.
Today, most corporations push profit over creativity. They squeeze out as much of the most scumbag corporate tactics in the video gaming industry as possible in hopes of earning maximum profit. They don't even care if the games they're making are bad and they receive them a massively negative reputation amongst the customers, they'll be fine so long as they find themselves rolling in cash from all the most bland design choices, crunched developers, DLCs, microtransactions and broken launches.
People unaware of the industry at large fall into the predatory schemes of those corporations. They essentially enable all of them to continue doing this because they're not going to stop buying those games. EA continues to push awful live-service soccer titles with heaps of microtransactions and scumbag decisions every year because casual players buy their games and microtransactions anyway, or in other words, the casual players enable EA's predatory behavior. It's because people are complacent with mediocrity that we get more of it shoveled into our faces. The mobile market especially is a huge example of that, it's practically consumed by the greed of scummy developers and corporate executives.
I see games such as Cyberpunk 2077 and Saints Row Reboot as corporations thinking they are geniuses who are ready to fool all the customers to get as much profit as possible. CD Projekt Red not only lied, but literally SPAT into our faces with all the stuff they've been doing behind the curtains and closed doors. In fact, they were so willing to do it, the shallow apologies they've delivered after the game's launch showed just how much they only cared about the money. There's absolutely no excuse to what they've done, they were the most deserving of what was coming to them. And even though they've patched out a lot of bugs over those past two years, that doesn't change the fact that they still lied and that they still allowed this entire mess to happen to begin with. It especially doesn't help them because their lies are still out there on the Internet and in the game itself. CD Projekt Red earned good bank with this and is already making a ton of games for the future, dropping Cyberpunk 2077 after just one DLC. They've never delivered on their promises, so neither will they try to in the future. I will never forgive them for this, and I will never forget about what happened to this huge disaster of a video game launch.
While Volition's Saints Row 2022 wasn't necessarily lying to it's fans, they were not holding back on punching them all in the faces, taking a dump on their beloved franchise that was already run into the ground and lying in it's casket, closing the lid and hammering in the final nails just before covering it all up with dirt and sand... all while out in the middle of the desert, hoping it'll be forgotten by everyone.
This is the kind of world we live in now. The world where corporations have become so savage over the years that they are willing to deceit everyone to earn a bigger paycheck for their yet another yacht and mansion sets. And not only just that, because they're ready to even go as far as attack their own customers just because they were not willing to eat up the turd that was offered up to them on the silver platter and which was somewhat nicely decorated but was also still just a turd.
I suppose today's Volition were right in something. The people and the industry have changed...
...
And for the worse.
Bottom line fellas I’m sure we’ve been playing games for a while long enough to know what a good game is. GameStop was still good enough to go in there for them to pester us with “would u like to sign up with us for a power up rewards card ”,long enough to at least once in our life…blow on the back of a game cartridge to only put back into the gaming console to not work for the 11th time,DLCs was extra content …not content that should’ve been already put into the game with major patches behind it. My point since I’m sure a majority of us are in our 20s and we know a good game when we see it and today and most of them are absolutely abysmal
Also don't forget the songs in Saints Row 2 in the game they are amazing. That song introduced me to bands like Deftones, Taking Back Sunday, My Chemical Romance (I listened to their songs before and I didn't know the name of the bands at the time) and Paramore (the main source of where I first heard her song Misery Business).
Never clicked so fast. I am ready
I couldn’t even watch the playthrough for the cringe but i still left a like for his dedication to survive the cringe and i hope this is the last “saints row”video because i had to watch the entire SR2 playthrough to remember how good this franchise used to be and also thanks pro for the amazing review it was very well done.
I watched the reboot playthrough just to see The Professional's reactions to the cringe, but I did not enjoy watching the actual story. This review was well put together though and hopefully The Professional gets plenty of attention from the video.
Truly the saints row series should’ve deserved better than the reboots direction of cringey characters and their actions.
Especially how the reboot had some potential especially in a southwest desert setting.
The old Saints Row are awesome back in the mid to late 2000s and the only people who has ever remembered Saints Row 1 & 2 is us! I think it’s time we should give the whole world a wake up call and respect the old style of Saints Row 1 & 2.🤘🏽⚜️
*mid to late 2000s
Saint row 2 is still a master piece in my opinion the game still hold up to this day.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 I agree. It’s truly the greatest gangster game of all times.
I played SR2 for the first time a few months ago, and honestly it felt like something was missing. It didn't feel like a complete game.
@@bigsmoke394 Why so Lad?
Earth blowing up in SR4 was even sadder than anything that saints row 2022 came up with lmao
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. The Professional has provided a movie for dinner.
It really makes you FEEL like a rent payer
With student loans.
That carlos scene it always hits me hard. Saint 2 will always be the king of the saints games. And props to you professional I honestly dont see how ya can stomach playing it, couldn't pay me to play it. Glad I listened to the other saints, I didn't listen when came to gta online on pc and oh boy. And if they don't fix it, the will never see another dime from me. Voting with my dollar, Not supporting companies that hate its customers or bleed them dry.Thank you for your video professional!
Carlos and Shogo death was the most emotional.
As someone who has never played a Saints Row game, this "reboot" has accomplished only one thing - making me want to check out the previous games and appreciate the effort put into them. I now have Saints Row The Third on my PS4, but I will consider playing the first two and maybe the fourth one as well in the future, even though I have heard of how batshit crazy it is.
So, thank you, Volition. Hope you guys are proud of yourselves and also super excited now that you got merged with Gearbox as a result of your spiteful and disrespectful attitude towards your fans.
Do you know what could have been a big twist for this game? If Nahualli killed the boss and his friends after they suggested they have Team Building exercises. Afterwords, he buries the boss and his friends, YOU become Nahualli and work to take over the city with your crew. And it would be revealed that the beginning scene of the game was just a dream that the boss had one night, and it really didn't happen.
But, of course, asking a twist like that would be too much for Volition to handle.
Marvel tier writing from you lmao, sometimes i wish fans would realize how fucking stupid their ideas are
@@Nobody44112 You know, you didn't need to be a jerk about it. Also, why did you bring Marvel into this? I wasn't even talking about it.
Nahuali would be one of the best characters if only he did that.
When you said you go and take revenge on the gang’s territories and just killing and destroying a bunch of things for Neenah but then there’s never a reaction from the gang’s perspective is actually wild to me
The Warriors game by Rockstar actually had story where Cleon and Vermin are part of Destroyers gang. They get betrayed by leader and form The Warriors gang. It's very good game and it's based on The Warriors movie but actually expands story more.
I like it how everybody was joking about paying student loans and then it came true
I've been thinking about it these past months and I slowly come up with how I could make these characters and gangs better and more badass.
The player:
I still think that he works okay as he begins with Marshal (not the whole cringe stuff of course). But unlike in this game in my story the four characters would live in the same apartment, but just don't tell each other that they're in different gangs, and they may not even be full members off the gang maybe they're associates.
The player is with Marshal at the beginning, but like with the mission in the museum something could happen that causes the player to get fired. Maybe instead of some Codex, he had to guard a bank full of money or gold, and all three main gangs (let's say Marshal is more like Ultor, and there could be a fourth gang) attack the place, knock out the player and steal everything. He gets fired and is devastated.
But this is about the same time that he finds out about his friends being in the other gangs, and he considers beating them up until he has to save them and how that happens I'll explain now.
Nina:
She's still similar to how her role as a mechanic is in the gang, but she's also a bit like Jessica in Saints Row 2 at the start and his the girlfriend off the gang's boss at the beginning, and at the start of the game she begins to suspect he's cheating on her which turns out to be true. This causes her to snap and murder several members before confronting Sergio.
Sergio being a sadistic guy that he is, dumps her in the trunk of her car and has her tossed into a cliff. This is were the player hears about this and decides to save her.
Eli:
Now, I'm making his character very different and also make up an additional fourth gang that could like a maffia like the Ronin and the Vice Kings from the first two games. They're a gang that control the areas around midtown and the casino strips, which is also how they make their money.
Eli is like an accountant, banker or administrator that helps them with money laundering and such, but not involved with fire fights and such.
However, at the start of the game he's caught by the feds and his gang refuses to help him since they can erase any connection with him and so they leave him to his fate.
Once again, the player finds out and has to murder the police team that's about to bust Eli's office.
Kevin:
I'm also kind of changing the idols here, instead of communist anarchist, they're kind of like the Rollers or Sons of Samedi or even the Luchadores that like to push their associates around. And Kevin could be made like Veteran Child who does drug dealing for them, but is never given a fair cut because he has some skeletons in his closet with gambling, cheating and drug use and the idols use that to push him around.
Eventually he can't take it anymore and badly injures one of the bosses, but is then kidnapped and about to the executed.
The player finds out and also rescues him.
At the end of these missions where you save the three others, and you come back together at home. At first the characters don't get along so well until the players steps up and says: Alright you motherfuckers, listen up. I don't care where you came from or what flag you carried. We've been in the same old shit for years, and we all found our own way into getting out of it. But why should we do it for ourselves if we can combine our powers together to get of this live of bills and poverty.
(Or some quote like that).
Finally you also have Nahualli, and how I would re write his character is like this. He's the leader of a gang that gets exterminated by Marshal at the beginning of the game. His gang lives in the badlands and desert, and Marshal wants to evict everyone violently to start drilling for oil there.
After you rescue Nahualli he becomes your mentor like Julius, but also tell some wise words.
You think you're the first one to take a step against the big men of this stinkin nation, that have more interest in themselves instead of the common man.
We're all the same people in a mad world, outcasts who have lost their lives due to wars and corruption. Prostituted and dumped by pimps like Marhsal.
At the end of the game he could also still betray you, but have the same motivation as Julius. He believes you've become the guy you fought against, but he's also a hypocrite like Julius. He was fine with drugs and prostitution, but developed a conscience too late.
Saints Row 2 was the peak of the series. Easily accessible for anyone, even a kid could just play it (although you wouldn’t want them to).
The first game is good, but not half as good as people want to remember. The gameplay, difficulty, and frustrating mechanics made it difficult to just relax and enjoy.
3 was the biggest disappointment because it came off the back of 2, and it downgraded everything, from building interiors, to all the random side character that made the original city more alive. Saints Row 1 had all this stuff.
4 was fun. But it wasn’t Saints Row.
True that.
This is by far the best way to explain the entire saint rows games in a nutshell.
Here’s the thing about the karaoke: it CAN work for a gang but ONLY if it’s not mentioned in the main story, or if it is VERY LITTLE.
Think about the yakuza games for instance: amazing storylines and a fairly accurate representation of the Japanese mafia (as accurate as you can make a game where you beat people up with motorcycles), and yet you can do karaoke as a mini game and it doesn’t seem out of place at ALL because karaoke is a big part of Japanese culture and you expect hardened criminals to still have some down time and have hobbies like normal people.
Saints row on the other hand rather than have it be a side activity or a small throwaway line they just shoehorn it into the plot and have it be something the characters frequently do and will talk about DURING their criminal activities.
Yakuza also does it in a fitting way. Kiryu is a stoic guy who can't just cry about issues because he is always protecting someone. But he uses Karaoke to cope and express emotions that he can't express otherwise. He never interrupts the plot to go sing while his friends are kidnapped because the plot is always focused, even if the side content is wacky.
Reese's in pieces Volition, you should've gave a damm
Facts dude
I love The Walking Dead’s Negan at the beginning lol 😂 and Rick Grimes is represented as the OG Saints Row Fans.
Me too it was so funny
True it was pretty good intro to this explaining of the game
@@rando105 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 my favorite part LMAO
@@stephortiz2417 professional work by the one and only professional 😎👍
@@rando105 yup he is
2 and a half hours good effort Packie👍
1:03:26 Anyone remember that episode in regular show when the guys need a car to go to “Jim Bros burritos” and once they get a car it was owned by a criminal and he was hiding in the car since the 70’s and tries to steal their burritos and when mordecai punches him, he dramatically gets knocked out, this scene reminds me of that.
And that was a reference to the end of a 70's Turkish movie "Karate Girl", when the heroine shoots the antagonist over and over in an over-dramatic death scene.
It even does the zoom-in on thr King's face, like in Karate Girl. All we're missing is a red screen with the word "Son", and it would be a shot-for shot remake of that scene.
Honestly, I like to think that SR3, SR4 and SR Reboot are just random dreams in Playa's (SR2) mind before he wakes up from the coma.
Haha exactly or they coulda been part of a movie since in 3 they were in the movie buiseness but volition didnt try every avenue clearly they just rebooted it cause they tried to say that johnny gat was seen as a bad person so they litterally tried to erase all the proper gangsters to suit there new shit game with trash characters which makes it seem like they want nice gsngsters
1:27:17 Well, in my case, Professional, I would have write it like this:
The characters are not student kids, they are in their late 20's. The cringe Boss will have the personality of the OG Boss (scary, intimidating but at the same time carying deeply about his homies); Kevin would have more the personality of Gat, combined with a more authenthic anarchist belives; Neenah would have the personality of Lin, but with a more sensible side like Carlos; Eli would still be the unexperienced nerd member and the brains of the gang, but he also would grow up in the story to become also a good fighter like Pierce; and Nahuali would be like the friendly and more fair and reasonable version of Maero (having both of him and his entire gang as a loyal and trustworthy allie, like Mr. Wong, to help the Saints to fight the other factions).
The Marshall would be more like an old style cowboy version of Merryweather, without the futuristic stuff; the Panteros would be more like a combination of Los Carnales and The Brotherhood, trafficking both with vehicles and drugs; the Idols would be more like the factions from Mad Max, so primitive and savage, outside of the civilization and more like an authenthic anarchist gang.
My story would start with the four main characters seperated in different apartments but still from the same building. The characters would still being members of the different rival gang (The Boss as a Marshall mercenary; Neenah as a Panteros gang member; Kevin as an Idol anarchist), but this time the characters would distrust each other at first, being in a break of war. However, Eli would interfier on their conflict, convincing them to make peace truce, in order to avoid unworth it problems with the law, which it's not gonna benefit anyone at all.
A few months passed and the characters are starting to have some dislikes about their own gangs. The Boss would realize how sellfish and *sshole is actually Atticus with his people; Neenah would realize how paranoid and irrational is starting to become Sergio due to his drugs; Kevin would also realize that the Idols are just hypocrites, judging all the time about capitalism and money, but using the capitalist system to make money to benefit their gang, but making pointless all their entire anarchist ideology. Then the 4 characters would start to have financial problems, to the point to move on all of them into the most rundown apartment in the building as roommates, making them more uncomfortable and paranoid than before. But Eli would still be the peacemaker, convincing the 3 of them to live together, as long that they never talk about their respective gang businesses between each other and keeping in secret from their gangs about the fact that they are living now together in the same room.
More time passed out, and the 4 characters are actually starting to like each other, realizing how much they have in common, being very alike at the same time. But then their friendly interactions would bring them consequences. Atticus would fire the Boss in the same way that in the final game; Neenah would be betrayed by Sergio due to his paranoia; and the Idols would discover later that Kevin was living with their enemies in the same apartment, so they would send troops of Idols to kill him for a suppose betrayal.
After everyone where kicked out one way or another from their respective gangs, that's when they make the Saints, but without all the cringy missions around the game, and more similar to the ones from SR 1, 2 and even a few from 3.
Then when the Saints realize that they are still a small gang, compare with the rest of the other factions, they would need the help from another small gang to defeat their enemies. That's when the Boss helped Nahuali to help him getting out of the Marshall prision, after he captured him. But this time Nahuali is not gonna be an insane creepy stalker (nor a possible p*dophile), jealous of the Cringe Boss. He would be a little hostile with the Boss, after he captured him, distrusting him and the Saints at first. But then he would realize how much of potential have the Saints as gang, and his loyalty and friendship, without being so infantil and cringe. Nahuali would use his gang to gave the Saints additional back up for their gang wars and when their gang friendship start it to become much bigger, Nahuali would accept to asimilate his gang and himself with the Saints, making one and much bigger gang, and also gaving to the Saints a few advises to make them much capable to fight.
Also Myra would still betraying Atticus, after she realized how careless was with her, compare with the Boss. But this time, Myra also would become a mentor and even a possible mother figure that the Boss never had (which in my own point of view, the Boss' childhood and lack of good parenting was of the main reasons that he became a cold blooded sociopath). Myra also would help the Boss to be more human and also more compationed and sensible with his gang and the people around him, in order to not become into another Atticus that use purple instead of blue. Atticus would be defeat in the same way that in the final game, but Myra now would become an official member of the Saints, convincing a good part of the Marshall staff to make reforms in the company, which that would make the Marshall company to assimilate with the Saints, so the Saints can use the Marshall company as cover for their illegal actions.
The Boss would have a fight with Sergio, similar like the first one from Maero, but then he wouldn't manage defeat him, and that's when Nahuali came to rescue him. The main Idol leader would be defeated probably in a same way as the antagonist from the most recent movie of Mad Max, just as a little reference to that movie.
The final boss, would be a corrupt chief of police, which he is the one who kidnapped the Boss' friends, including Nahuali and Myra, infiltrating into the Saints HQ, disguised as another Saint gang member, in an attempt to kill the Boss, similar like Nahuali did, but without all the cringe flashback sequence. At the end, the Boss would kill the chief of police and his entire corrupt division, saving Kevin, Neenah, Eli, Nahuali and Myra, while he and his entire friends are looking up the city that all of them own now, being much more meaningful than the final game.
Please pitch this idea to a game company so that way they can make a Good Game And improve saints row and even Make a game to rival GTA Because saints row Was actually A rival to The GTA series
I've Been so hyped for this review
I'm happy that you shouted out Flippy. He's a great Saints Row TH-camr.
The fast travel in El Dorado is the El Dorado sign itself and not The Varmint sign. The Varmint is a collectable for the HQ walls and probably confuses people because of being so close to this fast travel point
Professional being THE Professional again, a full 2+ hour video from one of the best content creators and it's not even Christmas yet...
Already off to a good start
Saints Row (2006): A decent game
Saints Row (2022): A decen't game
More Like Shit Game.
I've been waiting for this review for so long
The whole thing with her crashing the car on the billboard onto the police car convince me that the devs watched too much of the new fast and furious movies
Makes me very happy to see someone finally read the context of Steph’s reply to my tweet, most creators haven’t been doing that, but for more context, she was talking about people making fake idolninja twitter accounts and spamming her and another community manager(s) basically over and over calling the game shit. I don’t think “terroris behavior” is an appropriate word choice because people aren’t doing this for political or religious gain, they’re pissed off, I think “harassment” would’ve been a better word choice.
-Alecfisher
This Steph feels like Steph from Life is Strange True Colours. The same evil.
As far as emotional moments. Don't forget Aisha basically getting decapitated in front of Gat.
That part was so unexpected 😲😲😲the didn't really care that much 4 Iesha but damn. Don't even get me started on Carlos..
SR2 was a damn emotional roller coaster at times. It honestly made beating the gangs that much more enjoyable.
Never cared about Aisha. She was annoying but Carlos oh man. This was truly emotional.
@@princesslyna4120 Yeah that honestly made the Brotherhood storyline for me. I love the Ronin story but that's sort of Gat's revenge story, and tbh you don't have much of an emotional connection to Aisha herself, its mainly sympathy for Johnny personally. But Carlos struck personally since he helps you at the prologue, and you can tell through the missions that it's personal for the Boss.
@@averymicrowave1713 + Monroe is much worst than Shogo. I never even thought that Shogo was evil. He is just a victim of his own father. Very similar situation with Thor and Odin from God Of War series. Kazuo always treated Shogo in the worst possible way and he never cared about him. I always feel bad for young sons of gangsters. If they had a really good and caring father. They also would be much better people. Same thing with Giorgi from Mafia 3. I know that they did horrible things but they were raised that way and they are young.
This is so well done pro it’s so impressive and I can see the passion you have with this franchise! Keep it up
At long last I know I'll enjoy this. Thanks professional and Happy Thanksgiving 🙂
As i said before, to me the Nahuali treason was bring up at the last moment when the script was being made (i suppose in the first version Nahuali didnt betray you). Someone believe the betrayal was cool and added it, programmed it and then the developers find themselves against a dire situation: there was no way the gang would survive the Nahuali. So they come up with this cheap scene and "i will protect better our friends" crap.
I want to believe this, because if they truly believe the reason goes on with the Nahuali personality they have some serius logic issues...
nah his betrayal was very "smartly" (smartly in quotes because of how obvious it was) hinted, I don't blame you for not getting the hint since any sane person would sleep through the fuckin cutscenes, but when the boss was moping around after being fired he bought a bunch of knives, one of them called a, and i kid you not "Judas 3000" and the same knife in question the boss gifted nahuali.
@@tonyshum5569 no, what i mean is the nahuali was show as a cold and methodologic person. I have to believe that because he spend like 30 minutes with 4 weird randoms now he is really worried about them? Yes the treason was highly hinted but the reason of the treason is still stupid. I mean if he did it in order to take MC empire would be fine. But theres the problem that the gang wouldnt survive tje nahuali (at least not without plot armor)
Don't be sorry its so long, we love the long vids! Great job man
Congrats on your dedication Pro. It was worth the wait. I can now watch and sleep easy at night.
That Bully Maguire rent scene is much better than the whole SR reboot dialog.
SR4 was the first Saints Row game I've ever played and little did I know it's actually a gangster game. I had so much fun playing that game that I replayed it over and over again. Same goes for SR3. I love the customization, the story, the characters and the cool weapons. When I finally played SR2, I was mind blown on how gangster that game was. I had trouble with the final mission, but overall it was great. I can even go inside buildings unlike SR3 & SR4. Also I like how each gang has their own cutscenee and story. I never played the original Saints Row game cuz it doesn't have a PlayStation version of it. I played GOFA and AOM, but I wasn't having that much fun and didn't complete it. When I played Saints Row 2022, I wasn't having fun but I completed it and stop playing it altogether. Even though I like the customization and some weapons, I was really disappointed with this game. I can't take this people seriously, the rival gangs don't have their own cutscenes, I hate the dialogue, I was feeling like playing Fortnite, I can't go into buildings, the story didn't make any sense and the DLCs were terrible. Neenah is the only one I see who has potential and more badass unlike the rest of these guys. Someone please tell me why Eli is wearing a suit like he's either going to a high school prom or work at a fancy restaurant? Nobody wears a suit on a daily basis unless they go to work. I like the vibe of the Idols, but they killed it for me. Who are the Idol Collective? What are they're names? I like that every single person except for Ell is in their own separate gang and they will eventually come together, but there's a better way to do it if you do it right. This isn't Saints Row, this is Shit Row. This is not the game I would play multiple times and it's not even fun like SR4. I know SR4 isn't that gangster, but cut them some slack. At least SR4 is fun unlike Shit Row. Volition r'nt to blame cuz they want to go in the direction before Saints Row 3 and how Shandi's character changed. It's Deep Silver's fault cuz they want a new direction because of how the world is today and it failed miserably. Don't fix things that aren't broke.
You know, I gotta take a moment to be honest about something here:
I've watched quite a lot of Saints Row reboot reviews from several different people. Big channels and small channels. It seems like these videos came from genuine fans of the series and people that have played games for years and years. To see reviewers rip this game a new one in their own ways while on the same track at the same time really is something.
In my opinion, this is probably the worst I've seen a franchise take a turn for the worst. If not THE WORST, it's the worst I've seen in a long time.
Get your popcorn everyone!
Perfect job 👍👌👌👌👌
1:27:17 even the professional himself has a better storyboard idea than the execs of Volition.
The Constant State of Disbelief on your Facecam was the only thing that made these SR22 Clips bearable hahaha.
Great Review, had a blast watching the entire Thing!
“Playa” would obliterate “the boss”, but the reason why the past games were better is because that was before wokeness took over, like the pronouns and bringing up student loans, etc., everything is more sensitive and filled with political correctness now unfortunately. It is true when they say “Go Woke, Go Broke” because that’s exactly what happened to Volition, but they don’t learn lessons, so until we stand up to the woke radical leftists, we’re gonna get more games like this.
Wokesters can bash this comment all they want, it will not effect me and i wont reply.
I totally agree with you TheProfessional about this game. Additionally I wonder if they have even done any research how gangs operate in the US at this age of time (they did pretty extensive work how gang culture works when they were creating Saint Row 1 back in 2006). Before buying this video game I did watch a lot of educational videos on youtube how the gangs smuggle illegal items/people between borders, what kind of posts they have on social media (some of them show up their weapons made from pure gold, or even their outfits with masks/tattoos on to intimidate their rivals gangs), and how they are making transactions to sell out illegal substances. The setting of this game is even really interesting since a lot of trafficking is happening between the US - Mexico border, and a lot of gangs ways to get on this action. Unfortunately we got bad written story, bad main character, and lifeless city. Few things were interesting in this game, but unfortunately is just overshadowed by so many negatives, with a unstable game.
My final score is 3,5/10.
Ps. I guess that GTA Online will be able to sell more subscriptions/shark cards, and GTA VI won't have any problems with sales (even if they will realase a total buggy game), since Rockstar (Take-Two Interactive) have now monopoly on crime games.
They did their homework in SR1 but clearly didnt for this game. I mean the story doesnt make sense for a gangland title, if not stupid. Like gangs fighting over a museum artifact like this is tomb raider, or the characters being friendly hipsters while the enemy gangs look more like generic factions from Fortnite, and none of the urban street culture or hip hop feel that the stuff came form. They dint even consider doing cartels or something. They went with... larping, and waffle makers. They looked at this game and actually thought this was better than SR1 or SR2.
@@GeteMachine So much potential wasted. Even Carnales gang from original Saints Row game would fit here perfectly.😥
huge props to you for making such an extensive review, it is greatly appreciated
I’m an hour into the video and I get the slight inkling the professional doesn’t seem to like the reboot lol
The fact that pro made fun of Twitter users is fuckin hillarious😂
It could’ve been a satirical game like any gta game where for this games cringey story case: Twitter users do form a gang and of course they do their misadventures and as they form their criminal empire, there’s benefits and there’s consequences for their actions and they will have to realize what their actions caused around Santo Ileso and actually own up to themselves about it. A sort of coming of age crime story.
I’ve been looking forward to this
You summed up the criticism of the developers very well. But I think it reflects very accurately today's society in general and especially on the internet. Everyone is immediately offended when they are criticised and appropriate criticism is immediately labelled as "hate". I think society has become far too sensitive in recent years due to social media.
Of course, there are also people who really overdo it and genuinely insult others, as in this case. But I think the developers are making it far too easy for themselves here by putting all of us in the same category and labelling all of us who weren't satisfied with the game as "haters"....
It would be bad if we were labelled as haters, but they crossed a mile and now we're officially terrorists in their eyes. Like, what the fuck? Not only it doesn't make sense but it's also SUPER DISRESPECTFUL FOR THOSE WHO SPENT MONEY ON THIS JUNK.
Happy thanksgiving to theprofessional and fans ❤
Thx
I don't understand why you'd do this, build a casino district and have not a single one that's enterable or interactable, it would have been nice if one business you could build been like your own little gambling place, but no
Also I'm not sure if it is a feature but It would've been cool if when a sandstorm hit you'd lose notoriety faster
This is like a Crowbcat video but with commentary, nothing else can be added to this review, it's brilliant and well put together. Well done Professional.
Uhhh, the introduction to Saints Row 2022 sounds like something straight out of Ride To Hell. Amazing video, so impressed you could play through this dumpster fire and do all the side content too.
The professional idea how he would have written it is 1000 times better then the crap we got
at exactly 40:40 your overlay and the guy with the hat almost line up perfectly.
After replaying this game really recently I've come to best conclusion I can make as a fan and just a player in general. The game exudes this "I'm so quirky" energy. The amount of outdated terms and desperate appeal to an audience I'm not even sure existed in the first place is mind melting as well as the random missions that are ACTUAL story missions like going to get a toy for Kevin from Freckle Bitches, Art for Neenah, getting your mail back and some others that escape me. The dialogue and characters connection to it is not only fractured but also very fake considering games like TV shows and movies have world's that in essence have to "convince" you that the world's exist and the people exist within it. The tone and overall story is very strange as well as it doesn't exactly tell a story or convey a message in the least. And taking an educated guess to that, I would say friendship triumphs over all, but that doesn't really make sense considering this is a game about building a criminal empire. Who knows, but that's just my two sense.
I haven't played the game but I tried the Boss Factory. From an artist's perspective, the human anatomy is atrocious. The whole 'gender-neutral' setup creates make-belief bodies that defy human biology. For example hip joints curve inward like a man, yet the thigh gap has a very feminine persuasion. Women look like men (flat hips, broad shoulders) and men look like women (narrow waists, wide thighs). The masculine/feminine slider does little to mitigate this. If you sometimes get this uncanny vibe over the unclear gender of a character, this is why. It's an androgynous, fictional paradise. No matter how hard you try, your character WILL have aspects of the opposite gender. It completely defies science and reality. The usual suspect websites like Kotaku gave high praise to the non-binary customization system, no surprises there. Child-bearing hips? Not in this universe. Women will probably notice these issues more than men. I pray game developers don't continue this trend for the sake of appeasing a small minority of Twitter users.
Anyway thanks for the review, Patrick. You put a lot of effort into it. I'm not going to be playing this game, I'll stick with the older games in the franchise. I heard Volition has now merged and became a support studio for Gearbox instead, so who knows if we'll ever get another SR game that fans want.
I 100% agree but this is just one of the issue lol the horrible game play story boring map everything is wrong with this game.
Boot hill could've been a side gamemode akin to the roguelike style of games that became very popular and liked lately.
The whole idea of the mission is that you find random weapons as you progress and they could've turned that into a more polished version where the weapons are ACTUALLY random and you even get random upgrades and permanent progression for more runs making it very replayable and fun, even akin to mercenaries on resident evil.
After watching this video, I loaded up Saints Row (2006) and drove to the nearest movie theater with all my homies to watch some of the cutscenes. Volition clearly had ambition back then. Saints Row (2006) had the best voice acting, city, activities, and even multiplayer compared to this game. Some fun times.
A lot of companies had ambitions back then...somehow something happen and the beloved companies now suck.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone 🥧 real fans will never forget the masterpiece that was saints row 1&2 those were the days 😭
Saints row might be dead but thanksgiving will always be good😊
Or at least the people who have played them or are going to play them
Actually the good ones were 1 and 3 people seem to forget that.
@@herrforesight-Satanisking Different Opinions Lad.
@@mrcocoloco7200 No
Things that could’ve improved the SR reboot:
Make the main characters less cringe. Also have antagonist gangs perspective. And also make the setting of Santo Ileso more alive. Maybe have some towns or small cities in the surrounding desert area. Maybe even have the larpers turn into some mad max bandit gang event. Maybe have each character some development
I really liked the panteros and Idols as a Concept I just wished they had more moments plus those gang cutscenes really give each rival their own personality and How their rivalry is increasingly growing and each gang gets desperate
That fact that volition would rather be merged and destroyed than just listening to their fans is really telling. I have zero sympathy for volition and hope gearbox completely liquidate the company