1967 Porsche 911 Video 27 Undercoating part - 4 / Final application process on the pan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2017
- Final part in the undercoating segment for this series
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Masking and prep tips on preparing the pan for undercoating
Conclusion of all paint work prior to cut and polish!
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Awesome series…. Thanks
The flashlight worked so well you kept it on ! 👍🏻
Congratulations Mike on completing the painting process! I look forward to the next steps.
Hi John
Thank you=) Its a great feeling and looking forward also to moving on
Its been a long haul!
Hi Mike, thanks so much for the shout out. Just started going through your videos for the second time and ran across your new post. Love reviewing your tips. Picked up things I had missed the first time. Very motivational videos. I live in Florida so right now we are dealing with 90's every day. I'm trying to find someone to help me with the metallic paint which I hope to do this fall or early spring. Will be looking forward to your upcoming videos with regard to parts. That's what I'm toying with now. Again thanks for the your effort in producing these videos and answering questions. Much appreciated.
Frank
Hi Frank
You are very welcome its my pleasure=)
Florida is a great place to live! Summer time is tough getting any paint work done..its amazing how seasonal restoring cars is.
Im wishing you the best of luck finding a someone to help you with that metallic paint work..
I think you will really enjoy the process once it gets rolling
911s are gorgeous in metallics.
Will keep the videos coming=) at the moment I'm bogged down with work
and the extreme heat in Las Vegas but getting very close to assembly
Thanks for tuning in and lots of luck with the painting!!
I am very much looking forward to the assembly phase Mike. The car looks terrific.
Hi Brett
Thanks
Me too bud! definitely ready to move on..the heat is going to break records this week.grrr
Im not ready for summer!!
Great job Mike. Had a 1966 912 back in the day that needed the same treatment.
Hi Michael
Thanks! What a great car..would be great to bring her back=)
Great job Mike!
Thanks Greg!
Just found these videos. Fantastic. Keep it up!
Thanks Corey and welcome to the channel!
Good luck Frank.
A work of art.
Thanks you
I think the original engineers and craftsman were truly the artists..Amazing they could create this almost 60 years ago
flawless
Thanks Feeesh=)
Great job
Hey Phil!
Thanks=)
One thing about this undercoat is that done right it works amazing. But if any moisture gets behind the under coating it stays there and actually does more damage than not sealing it at all. But just absolutely gorgeous car
Hello Dogleg
Thank you
Yes for sure undercoating and moisture are mortal enemies
It was the original undercoatings on these early cars that did just that
Many resting in the graveyard as a result of that condition
Hi Mike, if I can give you advice, leave polishing as one of last steps. When you will assembly this car, it is possible that there will be some scratches or other damages and it will hurt you when something happen on a perfectly polished bodywork.
Hi Michal
You have an excellent point and some very sound advice! I will bring this up on the next video of pros and cons of going too soon.
However on this build I need to take advantage of the rotisserie for proper block sanding. The other panels will wait until it is time to final assemble.
They are in the shop and best left unpolished for the duration for this reason.
We will be using full protection during assembly and a white gloves approach=)
Hi Mike, that thing is sure looking purdy, coming along real well !!! Try and get er done for winter so after a good rain you can go out and drift that little fella, a little lubricant (water) on the tires will let them step out real nice in a tight corner ha. Just kidding, kept up the good work and hope to see you soon. Ate at Fillipi's last night, then walked Grand Ave. to look over all the cars. Kind Regards, Gary
Hi Gary
Thanks..not sure we'll be drifting her in the rain..haha
Would have to buy a lift to clean it! Lift not a bad idea though=)
Cruisin Grand is on.. facebook.com/cruisingrand/
Ill be back there next month for work and visit
Lets hook up and check out some cars! Im still trying to get the timing right for Nitro night..
Will give you a call soon as I have more solid timing
Any progress on the SS Chevelle since last last time?
Hey Mike, let me know when your down and we can hook up. Grand Ave. is fun, sometimes see our old buddy Sweeney in his 57 Chevy. Still pecking on the Chevelle, labor of love my friend. We'll talk story later. Mahalo
Hello Mike incredible work and wonderful explanations! I've been following because I am looking for the right 1969 911 to restore. I really appreciate the attention and research that goes into making making your project such an authentic restoration. I have a fairly similar mindset as well. I am currently doing a 1979 Camaro, base model, but I'm the second owner and it is a verified numbers matching car with all of the documentation, including the original build sheet, window sticker and original bill of sale, so I'm putting more money and time into authenticity than many would feel is prudent. It will not be 100% authentic because the interior was changed to black from the original blue and in my opinion is much more attractive so I'm staying black. Everything else I'm sourcing and restoring to original where I can to stay true to its roots. I expect to keep the car and will not show it for awards only for others to have a fun trip down memory lane. My question to you is regarding undercoating the topic of this video. My research has found second gen Camaro's only came with wheel well undercoating sometimes never any other place on the underside of the car. My car only has undercoating in the rear wheel wells. It will live out its life in Denver a very dry climate, not be out in wet weather or driven on sloppy roads. I am inclined to not undercoat anything but the rear wells. I would do it the same as you did for ease of cleaning and a lifetime of looking great. With what I have described for use, climate and no interest in winning awards how might you approach my situation. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for documenting it!
Hello C Gorgas
Your Camaro project sounds like a real jewel!
Im not sure what stage your restoration is in regarding bare metal to paint but if the base layers of primer include an epoxy sealer coat you should be fine not applying undercoating. Modern paint systems are superior to older technologies in sealing out the elements. If you have an epoxy sealer coat prior to finish paint pretty much nothing is going to get through that.
In that case the textured undercoating really is more cosmetic than functional
Beautiful work on this 911 dude. I’m starting a similar project. Where did you purchase the rotisserie? Or did you build it?
Hello North Park thank you and welcome to the channel
The rotisserie was made home built..There are a couple early videos in the series that go over the process with measurements
Its designed to work a s a system with a dolly of complimenting height.
Good luck with your project!
Greetings, What type of clearcoat did you use? Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.
Hello Andy
It was a blend of PPG 2021 Gloss and PPG 2060 Flat
70/30 ratio approx if I remember but you can mix the two at what ever ratio you want for desired sheen
70% 2021/ 30%2060
Good Luck!
What are you using for the undercoating?
Hi Gary
Im using Rust-Oleum brand..available thru Summit Racing
You can see comparable products on some of my other videos..
I recommend video 22 Finish paint part-4
also video 15 Undercoating process part-1 has some samples sprayed out
What is the undercoating you are using? Brand etc. Possibly Wurth?
It was Rustoleum brand shot from quart cans.. really nice to work with but nasty strong chemicals.
It was no longer available when searching for it last year. You may be able to acquire it from a supplier if they have some old stock but my thoughts are it was not EPA friendly and has been pulled form the market place.
You can now purchase new Rustoleum undercoating from spray cans but I have not tested any.
Good luck!
is this your car? or is this for a customer? if for a customer how much do you charge for this whole job?
Hello Cool
Yes this is my personal project and car. I am not for hire professionally to do this work. Are you looking for someone to do a restoration for you?
Restoration shops can be quite expensive and qualities ranging wide.
For some of the best work $300,000 to $400.000 and even higher is not uncommon. A typical restoration decent quality could run $100-200,000
depending how much metal work needs to be done and what state your car is in before restoration
Good Luck!
I keep hearing undercoating is bad.. it actually traps moisture next to the metal, promoting rust.
Hello cmscms
The information you are getting might be a bit misunderstood in
how they come to this conclusion.
Early Porsche's had severe undercoating issues related to exactly what you are mentioning. They sprayed asphalt based undercoating directly to the bare metal surface and over time it dried out cracked and became a moister trap for these early cars. Water and salt worked their way between the surface of the aged coating and bare metal. Early cars would be high candidates for severe body cancer because of this.
Later models this was corrected by dipping the cars in galvanizing materials and then applying the undercoating over the top for sound deadening.
For restorations we seal the bare metal first with epoxy primer and then apply the textured undercoating.
Its never recommended to apply undercoating directly to bare metal. A sealer should always be applied first in addition to body seams. I hope this helps=)
Good Luck!