What if he stays on and helps them destroy the IP? cause that is a very good possibility that Cavil loves GW more then the Lore and is ok with making the changes as long as it GW making them. Him leaving the project is just a rumor still so we don't know.
As soon as its official it's time to #BoycottgamesWorkshop Let the company fall to oblivion, then initiate a hostile takeover and buyout and purging this heretical garbage, maybe even get cavill in on the buyout Its time for the next step in the fight against the agenda The first company boycotted, bought out by the consumers and returned to normalcy from the woke message
it's time to #BoycottgamesWorkshop Let the company fall to oblivion, then initiate a hostile takeover and buyout and purging this heretical garbage, maybe even get cavill in on the buyout Its time for the next step in the fight against the agenda The first company boycotted, bought out by the consumers and returned to normalcy from the woke message
Fuck em Both. Hell Greese them up and feed them all to Slaanesh. The show wouldn't be Warhammer 40k. Could never be really Warhammer 40k. Given the lore.. and vastness of what is 40k.. your only going to get may be 20% of 40k, in a hour long episode.. If they had starred the show back in the 90s.. they might be close to 60% by now.
@@Lostinthesauce280 Im here hoping for an R rated 40k series, but the fact is it wont have the same humor as The Boys so its unlikely it will be as graphic and therefore watered down. Hope I'm wrong but its a two big greedy corpos trying to target the general public, we're not the target audience so best hope Warhammer+ keeps pumping out series.
For real, does Amazon not realize that one of the major themes in 40k’s universe is religious fanaticism? Of course not, they don’t because they don’t care about the source material.
Right, every earth faction kinda sees Emperror like a god, his soldiers are ready to die for him. If this isnt religious then I dont know what is. Sisters of Battle and Silence are no different, does Amazon think that those female factious should be talking about feelings and rainbows, while durring nights they have pillow fights. They dont want ot use those for some retarted reasons like "too religuous" or "women beign forced to be silent is sexist". So what do they expect, shouting Karens that fight for their foodstamps or something.
@@kalzonenuDota’s a highly competitive MOBA, so the lore’s like one of the least important factors to its success. 40k’s popular because the lore is sick. This is not a good comparison.
No, they’re taking out a strong man that stand on his values. People higher up want us weak. That’s why every male character these days is a bumbling idiot or gay. They don’t want young boys to have good male role models. Those kids will grow up to stand against the thrants
wtf is wrong with Hollywood. Cavill is literally the perfect Superman, the perfect custodes, the perfect Witcher, not only because he is basically a demigod himself, but also loves the source material.
Source Material doesn't matter to Insane Progressive Morons. Source Material when it comes to History or Fantasy to them is just a template that isn't set in stone but it's just a free space to do whatever to it. Oh there haven't been any Gay character? They add some. Or sees very Popular Female Figures that dress provocatively changes their sexuality into being a Lesbian or Bisexual. It's all because of Self Inserts. Some moron at Amazon can't handle biological Facts that both Reality and Fantasy have to adhere to if it's to be perceived as good. Males/Men are Physically Superior to Women because we're built differently to do more physical labor. But to them Physical Inferiority means Mental Inferiority. So Men have Superman, Women demand their own version they couldn't settle for Wonder Woman so they created Captain Marvel whose named sake is based on a White Male Character. Space Marines and Custodes are all Male because that's just common sense and even though both are based in a Fictional World that doesn't mean that just because it's Fictional means you can arbitrarily change something into something which it's not and when people come to defend their territory gets Insulted by being Labeled a Gate Keeper or Gate Keeping as if defending what's yours is considered a negative thing. We say No this is our House you can't do what you want you abide by our rules or leave. They say I'm going to do it anyways and then proceeds to oppress themselves on everyone and everything disregarding your houses rules becomes a Squatter and then claims squatters rights. And then when you finally have enough and say pack your shit I'm through with you crap leave or I'll throw you out. They act like the victim and they find someone whose bigger and more stronger than you whose sympathetic to them and has them turn the tables making you the oppressor then you find yourself getting kicked out of your own house by people who should have never been there. That's how almost every Fan of Fantasy/Sci-Fi shows feel after they go Woke and turn to sewage. Sorry but Spraying Fa-breeze isn't going to be enough to change the perceptions of Sewer and Home as the same thing.
All of these major companies are tied to blackrock and vanguard. All of the Executives are being paid to push this DEI agenda on absolutely everything they produce. The real question is why?
@@Cipher00007 I don't know man. GW, although strong armed, did comply with Amazon. I think GW didn't want to but "had no other choice" by working with Amazon
What really pisses me off is they had reasons for not using Sisters of Silence/Battle, but then they turn and go "Well those are our only options so lets just change things". They purposefully ignored Female Eldar, Tau, Humans in the guard, Inquisitors, Adeptus Mechanicus, and so on just to push a message that didn't need pushing cause it was already there.
i rreally thought warhammer was safe but now i realize theyre even trying to change christianity or destroy it in the process. Of course they wont stop at entertainment this shit is like a spiritual war ngl elite world view meets reality type shit
Since GW wants to introduce women in a Brotherhood, then where are my brother in the Sisters of Silence? Or a transgendered Sister of Battle? Where is MY "representation and inclusion" in the Sisterhoods? No, not being serious.
@@youngturtle69 Yep, its 100% a spiritual war. Karl Marx said they had to replace the church. Paulo Freire said the prophetic (marxist) church had to replace traditional churches. The UN's Robert Muller (not the FBI director) said the UN international project needed to unite and replace the various religions of the world under one world religion. Extreme herecy.
they wont fix, GW will go down in flames. GW wanted these changes and have been trying to make them for years now. Now that they have Amazon and Cavil to blame they will just go along with all of it.
It's time to #BoycottgamesWorkshop Let the company fall to oblivion, then initiate a hostile takeover and buyout and purging this heretical garbage, maybe even get cavill in on the buyout Its time for the next step in the fight against the agenda The first company boycotted, bought out by the consumers and returned to normalcy from the woke message
@MrWhateverfits Yeah, I think they'll do just fine. They were obscure once before, doesn't matter if it happens again. It's largely a childish issue that you can ignore, like me, because 40k is actually full of bad writing. It's about toys and art at the end of the day. Not your politics. GW want money. Do any of you paint? Or just bitch about some lore you know half arsed? You know the female space marines from the 80s?
I stopped playing gw years ago. There are better Wargames to play and i didn't like their direction. I think most people are not upset at the lore change itself. It's how it was lazily implemented. People like 40k for the deep and interesting lore, so any changes or retcons should of been just as deep or interesting. I'm reading fans write up better ways for female custodies than what GW did
Except, if you want it to be a successful show you need to appeal to more people and warhammer can't compete with other shows with outright racism or sexism.
@@bobdole3996 Except this, based on numerous examples over the last decade alone, does not work. If you change it for broader marketing you piss off and probably lose the people that love it already. And the changes you make most likely aren't going to make it appeal to many that didn't already have interest. This is niche source material. All you are going to do is ruin it for literally everyone involved and then blame the fans of the source material for the failure, decrying a toxic fanbase.
@aestos8673 as a marvel(comics) fan I agree. But that is the nature of cinema. It is the worst medium for storytelling. Because of Hollywood's profit model and need to appeal to the masses. I could list millions of issues and inconsistencies with Marvel cinematic universe and the comics. Like black Widow is only there for eye candy. But while things like that sucked. The first movie and some others were cool and it was cool seeing some of the heroes I read about in comics visualized on screen. My point is if you want a Warhammer movie you're going to have to accept what comes with it. Also, pray it's not successful like Marvel movies otherwise female custodes will be small changes compared to the fuckery to come.
The SOB are too religious? Bro, that’s like saying “we can’t make a movie about the crusades because they are too religious!” WARHAMMER is quite literally a giant holy war waged by multiple religiously fanatic factions, it’s basically the crusades cranked up to a billion…
If you haven't noticed, Hollywood has done exactly that already. To be clear, I'm agnostic, but I have eyes and ears. When was the last time Hollywood made a movie that respected Christianity as a net positive? Christians are more ridiculed, derided, persecuted, and made into bad guys than white males in most Hollywood movies. Sure, they'll portray Muslims as virtuous and morally good people, but never Christians.
Factions as in internal imperial factions or are you also including the other races because no other species has religious zeloutry as a main theme besides humanity.
@@Adrian-Trivani Most main parts of the story or plots include the giant faction of the god emperor, occult people also quite technically worshipping something else, the rift that they use to travel has demons and demon gods. I feel like there is numerous aspects that all have their own religion. Too water that stuff down causes catastrophic changes to multiple pieces of really good lore and story. it's not some random niche aspect you can tweak whenever you feel like it. especially if you're doing it in complete disregard like they are doing because some factions that have religion quite literally also get their power through faith and devotion etc.
@@Adrian-TrivaniUm, you do realize the entirety of the Chaos factions straight up worship the Dark God's, don't you? They are every bit the religious zealots the Imperium of Man is, but instead of worshipping the Emperor, they worship His evil counterparts. Which is saying something in itself, seeing as Emps isn't exactly the posterboy for the forces of light and righteousness...
Huh, fair, i was completely wrong about this. I was thinking only of the major factions and completely disregarded chaos, didn't know what the logic i used was for chaos.
At this point, I trust Cavill more than I trust GW when it comes to Warhammer. If he ends up leaving the project, I'm not bothering watching. I have better things to do than be lectured to by an imbecilic cult.
Given that the Imperium _is_ an imbecilic cult...were you trying to do a thing, there, or are you one of those guys that doesn't think Starship Troopers was a satire?
the problem is they dont care about the lore they only care about taking beloved and famous franchises but they sell on name recognicion alone thats why we have all these shitty adaptations and why the people in charge dont care about the source material they just wanna make theyr own garbadge and slap a famous name on it so it sells better than theyr garbadge would otherwise
Right? A badass veteran sergeant who has faced the terrors of the universe while only being a normal human. Way fuckin cooler than the powersuit factions anyway, imo.
@@roberttanguay8532 They're gonna keep it simple and focus on humans almost certainly. Which is a shame, since 40k offers so much more than that. But they don't have the confidence to introduce that complexity I'm sure. Not sure why Darktide had to go that route, though. Such a wasted opportunity.
@@Levitiy lol mmkay hoss. Sure, they necessarily experience high casualties, but the expendability of IG is often overblown for comedic effect moreso than a basis in reality. They're the first and often last line of defense for the Imperium and do the brunt of ALL the work in its defense. For 10,000 years they've been Player #1 to stop demons, aliens, and other human factions. DESPITE being normal humans, they're the heavy lifters. It takes millions of them to do the work, and many won't make it, and they do it anyway. No matter the reason -- that's fucking badass. No clue what you mean aby "play faithfully into the faction." The Guard IS the human faction. It sounds like you're saying a soldier who died on the beach in Normandy wasn't a badass because he wasn't a Navy SEAL or something vapid like that.
They didn’t want sisters of silence because they couldn’t speak? What, are they discriminating against mutes? Mutes aren’t worthy of representation to them? Not in the almighty checklist are they? Hmmmm?
They didn't want Sisters of silence because they're handicapped They didn't want sisters of battle cause they're zealot fanatics that gets wet when a custodes or space marines comes around They didn't want female inquisitors that are badass, cool and have a sht ton of planet destroying arsenal on their command cause they would make women too violent or Commit warcrimes And they don't want female Guardsman cause they will only follow orders from most likely male commissars, space marines and custodes Basically if they're going to be a female that is under a male they won't add it, so case and point they probably didn't even want female custodes what amazon wanted was probably female primarchs :V and that's even worst because they're literally called sons of the emperor, if they wanted to be even more wild hell they would've made the emperor an empress ffs
Wow, I really appreciate You contextualizing that line. I completely glossed over their dismissal as I was so focused on the exclusion of the SoB. A silent character would be reminiscent of classic silent films to me. Humans communicating nonverbally is fairly universal.
I think Amazon doesn't realize, that warhammer is a dystopia, not some fancy good world sci-fi like star wars or star Treck... It's meant to be shitty, unfair and that Noone would want to live in that world..
@@someoneElse4229 not being diverse is part of the dystopia... The world of 40k wouldn't be as horrific as it is, if it would be more diverse... And it's meant to be that horrific.
@@StupidWisdom That doesn't address HOW diversity detracts from the grimness. Women can be just as depraved, indoctrinated, tortured, and miserable as men, in my experience. I think they'll fit right in.
I think by this point, Henry Cavill has to be the director AND the main character of his own show/movies, just like Ryan Reynold has been doing to respect original sources
@@orctriharRyan Reynolds played Deadpool in X-Men:Wolverine, which was pretty much a character assassination (character in the movie is totally opposite to character in the comics), he fought hard until they allowed him to make the Deadpool movie with his own script, which was much more true to source and a huge success, now he's making the "third" (he said it's not Deadpool 3, but it's the third movie with the character) with Deadpool amd Wolverine, with Hugh Jackman playing Wolverine again.
Ugh, Amazon is so unbelievably tiresome and rediculous. They had a golden goose here, a Warhammer 40K show with *Henry Cavil* for fucks sake. But they piss it all away for the sake of diversity like they did Rings of Power, or the Witcher. The true definition of insanity, that.
its the soclaists. they want to push DEI etc so they can destroy things that they can't control and make it political so non socialists cant escape from it and then some. its all political.
Thing is, they don't care about success in terms of money or popularity, not even IP value. The only thing that matters to them is politics and power. In that sense, they believe they are winning.
@@Sorain1Khrone cant get off his throne, Nurgle got scaredinto anothee house,tzeech made Malal take hisplace and she who smacks literally cant do athing unless youlet her in. Evil can do minor things cuz of it collected Mass but it upto Us tostop them. Defy them and Make new stuff. Without sillh choasdogs. 😂
Read my comment above. It is not insanity. It is "The grand scheme of things" being pushed by BlackRock Corporation. Take out God, the constitution, the bill of rights, family values, groom little children to mutilate their genitals, accept the new reality. (read the book 1984 ...... it is happening right before your eyes.)
Imagine being someone trying to enjoy a fictional universe. Tourists insert themselves into said space, start changing it. Then when you say anything you are the threat and the enemy. Predominately male spaces, women enjoy these fictional universes too but it’s a space where guys can escape the grindstone that is the modern world. Stories of Brothers fighting against insurmountable odds and sacrificing everything for what they believe in. Stories that inspire you and make you ask questions of morality. People used to look at fictional characters and aspire to try emulate their resolve and ideals. The hero’s journey made manifest. Not anymore. It’s a sad state of affairs.
also no one is stopping you from doing this. literally nothing has changed. old warhammer still exists, got knows the tabletop wargaming community isn’t exactly oversaturated, even now 😂 if you don’t think you’ll like the show, don’t watch it, but stop complaining about shit that has no effect on how you personally enjoy the hobby
@@goblinsuburbits very obvious. He's a fan and he cares about 40k. No fan would allow a company notorious for turning franchise to crap overnight to use their beloved story
@@Beeaannsss are they getting rid of existing books? are they supervising your home games to ensure that you play in accordance with any changes they make? if not then i really don’t see the issue here
Cavill being attached to it was THE selling point since he's been hugely outspoken about his life long passion for Warhammer having played it since he was a kid. Amazon seriously underestimated his nerd cred
What are they going to do check your people’s ethnicity? In that case i have four workers who identify as puerto rican, bob is sally, and Gregory is 70% german and 30% of African descent.😂
@@jeffs3119 you're not wrong, but I can understand not playing ball with anybody that asks dei questions. We might end up regretting it the way things are looking right now though 🤷♂️
@@SunTzuLaoAs someone who does actual DEI focused research, this shit pisses me off. A business can only be as diverse as its applicant pool. And a small business is going to be more specialized and have a small applicant pool. Amazon and governing agencies force quotas because it's easy and cheap. But increasing DEI starts with getting people to actually seek those opportunities and cultural biases against certain fields of work exist. If Amazon wants a diverse company machining their parts, they should pump money into education and outreach that makes exposure to that field possible for those who are less likely to encounter it. Maybe stop cutting shop class from core curriculum....
@@alajononon there's a meme I love that shows women deciding between two booths. One says STEM and the other says genders studies. All the women go to the gender studies booth and start waving signs about the need for more women in STEM.
@@74rocktiger74 heh. Doesn't work as well anymore now that there's lots of women in STEM and STEM academia is very focused on increasing diversity and accessibility. I'm a geochemist focused on Astrobiology. My MS advisor was a woman. My mentors at my NASA internships were women. I got into DEI research recently because I have ADHD and I'd like to add my perspective in trying to figure out how to be more accessible for people whose brains don't work as well with traditional academic learning. So one of the women on my PhD committee helped me devise a project. She's a paleontologist but also does DEI work to bring more people into the field of Geology. She's who showed me it's more about getting people interested and removing economic barriers than having quotas.
That’s gotta be heartbreaking for Henry Cavill. Imagine being a huge fan of the game, getting a role for the show, and then finding out diversity will shit all over it. That’s crazy.
@@JanFWeh the moment he did that it would make him unemployable aka blacklisted on political grounds etc. he has to go to pure political right wing sites and become political or it will be a matter of when before the socialists get him to submit to them.
I don't understand how people are missing this? Cavills favs are the custodians Cavill gets to do a big 40k series Probably involving the custodians (see 1) No womxn in the custodians CHANGE THE LORE Now write women into the show!
@@josephmarkese8563 I agree with him - what do you wanna see? Thousand Sons, CSM, Slaves To Darkness, Disciples of Tzeentch? I don't mind female Custodes but I mind what it stands for - stupid change (and I only collect Tzeentch-aligned stuff!) not good change. Warhammer has a lot of amazing female only factions like both Sisters factions. While female Custodes are no problem for me, they will change more of it cause woke fools never stop. Gotta stand your ground NOW.
I think people admire henry for his conviction and his love for the source material (which Hollywood execs and show runners seem to despise), and when he sees it going south and the disrespect, he nopes out. He may not have had the most successful career (by being screwed by the industry) but his integrity is what wins him the fans. Like literally everyone loves him and will throw money at his projects, but Hollywood are too stupid and waste him
When are they going to realize that Cavill essentially represents our/actual fan opinions on sticking to lore, and that ignoring him leads to the shows bombing spectacularly.
@@aarondecelle9532 Something that lures people in with good intentions that slowly warps into something malicious that becomes unrecognizable to the original goals, but compels people to stay anyways? Honestly, yeah, that does sound a lot like chaos.
Amazon's narcissistic virtue signaling destroys everything they touch. To them nothing is sacred, everything is simply a profitable propaganda megaphone. My expectations and concerns appear to be manifesting precisely as I hoped they wouldn't. What an absolute injustice to what could've otherwise been potentially one of the coolest adaptations ever. Is it so hard for these people to shut up and stick to source material?
I feel bad for Henry, poor fella can't get a break. First Netflix, now betrayed by Amazon. Although, I love the fact that he stands his ground for what is right. I salute you Henry!!!
I won't be buying official Games Workshop merchandise until they revoke the femstodes retcon. If GW had come out at the start and said that it was a retcon I would have been observably less pissed about it. But then they had to gaslight. They changed the lore and had the balls to say that they didn't.
only way that happens is GW to be politically purged of all left wing thought and more and embrace the right unconditionally. all places must either be opposing the socialists in all forms uncondtionally or they become socialists themselves inevitably. all one or the other.
@@TheManofthecrossit’s a very imperial mode of thinking. And no company would ever be stupid enough to do it. Frankly they are just less scared of you.
@@codyvandal2860 no, but they’ll make more money reaching to a wider audience successfully then they ever will appealing to you. Successfully is a key word, but you propose a way that keeps that from happening, and they’d rather try. Not to mention you’d gut GW itself more than you’d think. You really think purging all left just changes the guy in charge of their twitter?
Henry Cavill is the definition of born in the wrong generation. Imagine how much he could've achieved if he had this much platform as he has now in mid 2000s
As soon as I learned Amazon was involved my heart dropped. I honestly wish that they had never tried to adapt 40k. Amazon saying "SOB are too religious" sums it all up. They have no interest in representing this universe correctly. I am 51 books into the heresy/SOT. If 40k goes off the rails I'll likely just put it down after this series ends.
Poor Warhammer. As if the Sisters of Silence/Battle, the female Assassins, the Tech-Priestesses, the Imperial Guard female soldiers and the Eldar/Tau female warriors aren't enough. We fans must respond to this intolerable corruption like this: Waaagh! There are so many amazing strong female characters in Warhammer that everyone likes because they are beautiful and well written. This other stuff is just giving the dog the bone and then everything else follows.
@@icarusdoe6209 the whole purpose of the sisters of battle was kind of to be strong until someone came along and no diffed the sisters to show how powerful the villain is. Ya know, like almost all factions.
Both protect the Emperor of Mankind, one a Golden Brotherhood and one a Golden Sisterhood, but none being better than the other. Tyberos, known as the Red Wake, is also a silent type (a very dangerous silent type).
Boycotting HARD with this one! Enough is Enough, not one more dime for Any of these companies that Choose ESG, Forced Diversity, DEI, or Putting Stock holders like Vanguard or BlackRock OVER the Fans to sustained them or helped them grow into what they are now!
The ultimate arc would be henry ditching the show and having a crowd funded project that had huge success. Would be a symbolic moment and would be the nail in the coffin. We dont need you, we can do it ourselves and itll out perform your bullshit.
@@MGrey-qb5xz I am only half a fan, but I can say that if there is a fan project being funded and Henry Cavill is behind it, then the Warhammer community will have his back. plus the point that MGret-qb5xz is making is that a fan made Warhammer show will do better then what amazon will make. it's just a matter of fact.
but... but.... SISTERS OF SILENCE!!!! Custodes fight shoulder to shoulder with the legendary Sisters of silence! THAT'S A WHOLE DAMN GROUP OF FEMALE REPRESENTATION! Use it!!!!!
They want women and people of color to be strong , empowered and loud. Yet they didn't understand that in Warhammer , nobody has power in the grim future.
pretty simple rule... If you take the concept of something already established... STICK WITH IT, don't rewrite it to fit your narrative... shouldn't really be that hard... If something have a fan base, they like what is. Not necessary what you make.
For real. With the rise of Helldiver's 2, Palworld, and several other "double A" games, people getting sick or "triple AAA media" is starting to produce small-folks doing something about the garbage high budget films.
Henry should make his own studio or get one that is willing to do the right thing and leave all the woke shit behind. The problem is they wouldn't have enough money, I think the only reason Henry works with them is cause they have the money to do the CGI etc.
@@KnudAutlermannTrue. Media in general has become stale and soulless. In their attempt to reach all audiences all the time it feels like games and media are artificially pumped out at a factory than by people who actually care about creating art and entertainment. These massive companies should be giving smaller budgets to smaller teams of people developing video games or filming movies/shows with 10x more freedom they get now. The passion in the project is lost more and more the further up the corporate ladder something has to go. I despise AAA gaming more than anything and hope people are right about a crash on the horizon. Helldivers, Baldur’s Gate, Lethal Company, etc all coming out so recently and shitting on AAA games gives me hope
This is so cringe and disingenuous. I hate when these companies keep making women feel like the little sister the parents forced the older brother to play games with.
That’s a good way of putting it. They had every opportunity to make women included in a lore-friendly way, but opted for the most disruptive way of doing it for multiple reasons. It’s the same thing that I and a lot of people have said about multiple franchises: I don’t want people to feel excluded, just don’t make a poorly written, poorly planned retcon as the solution.
*_There's no problem with strong, powerful, women being represented in Warhammer 40K..._* Sisters of Battle, inquisitors, Imperial guard, etc. Had the script sought to represent them in the story everything would have been fine. But no... They had to undermine and subvert the Lore of the 40K universe by putting women where they didn't belong. Enough with this woke $&^+ Hollywood! If you're "writers" are incapable of sticking to the world lore, fire them and find some who can.
Totally agree and it’s not just this is across the board Witcher and movies and video games rather than just making strong female roles with out changing people that are by law male
@@altelt802it’s more so the fact that they refuse to use the lore that is already there and instead change what is already established for decades to push the WOKE agenda which is receiving such backlash as it’s retconning what is one of the most beloved factions by the actual players, admittedly I personally don’t play the game and are more so interested in the lore so I’m not gonna argue about any of this.
Warhammer never had equal representation. But that’s not the point the real issue is that they changed the lore, a shit ton of lore to appeal to 2% of the audience of the game. Real idiot move to push diversity. There are about 1000 other things they could have done to achieve a better result like making female guardsmen, which is lore accurate and makes sense.
Sisters of Silence are Females that can keep up with Custodes due to their discipline, training and pure badassery. GW should've expanded their lore and made the focus on the fact they are females who can do everything their male counterparts can do without the need for being enhanced. Technically thats makes them better but that wasnt enough for the tourists and activists.
It actually fits with their regular modus operandi. They always ignore the real strong women (Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor and so many more lesser known ones) in media (and reality too) and only push artificial ones, that need so much help from in-universe tech or magic etc. and out-universe plot help, that a toddler could beat the big bad with that much assistance. So ignoring the relatively mundane women which got to where they are by their own efforts, for ones that got just handed everything comes as no surprise whatsoever.
They should just call them the Sistrans of Silence and explain that they're actually usually men and the face guard is to hide the beards and manly chins. Yaaaas, clap. Slay.
The reason that they hate Cavil (and why Sam Witwer has been quiet as of late ?), is because he is a fan, and as a fan, knows the source material, and also as a fan who is also an actor (if not a Face-Actor) he WILL Happily forcibly-book-check them on wokian bullshit and blatant alterings of the framework-lore of said franchise-universe, especially when their agenda is to precisely and irrevocably ruin and destroy said framework-lore (and thus alienate fans of said franchise, thus ruining and destroying the franchise).
Honestly I am thinking since GW are the ones changing the lore, at the behest of amazon or not, Cavil will just go with it cause he loves GW more then the lore. I hope it wont and he does keep his Tegrady but at this point most likely he will just finish one and then quit. Only by then the people will have turned on him.
If Henry took his ball and went home, I don't think it would be very hard for him to get a new gig doing anything.😊 Even If he went to the Home Shopping Network I would actually buy some things.
That's crazy that GW ordered CA to remove repeater handguns from total war unit because it was not lore friendly (such trivial thing), and now Amazon will change important things in lore because they need to put their strong gay trans woman in the show
Pretty much the same. I can think of a single instance where I saw something woke and still said that overall it was good. The woke part was still immersion breaking though. Most of the time though, the woke part comes at the cost of quality, and so I get some garbage trying to preach BS political views at me. Not worth wasting my time, so I simply avoid it.
All the woke crap is pushing me back to classic games. Gunna pirate the shit out of ps1and 2, Xbox, gamecube games in a few weeks. I'm kinda done with it.
Some woke is fine as long as it's not at the expense of the product you know like what we normally use to do all the time's and it was normal we can't become just as bad of those cultist people with the whole it's my way or the highway type of thing.
You can have all female things, you can have all minority things, so why is it an issue to have an all male group in something. The message comes across as it’s okay to be anything “except this thing”
Imagine you are going to a hardware store to buy a hammer, but the cashier insists that you will buy a screwdriver with a barcode for a hammer. You cannot change the lore and characters , then expect people will just go and buy it cos its a totally different thing!
You new here, aren't you ? GW has constantly changed their lore. Were you here in 2015 when they took off the entire Warhammer Battle and replaced it by crappy Age of Sigmar. Plus, you can still buy only male custodes. I don't even think they have minis of female custodes. Do you even play custodes ? Do you even play WH40k or any miniature game from GW ? I'm asking to see if they will ever care about your whining.
@@rpersen He represents the fanbase as a very public figure they can try to crucify or get to bend the knee to "own" the rest of us, or to bird-dog the popular intellectual properties that still have "too many of the wrong kind" of fan.
@@DogfaceSquirrel its all political. its the socialists and the left they want us all dead our way of life destroyed and more so we have nothing to go back to.
Hollywood is just ruining every male-dominant series from superheroes, to star wars, witcher, this. There are woman in all those series, strong woman. But they choose to change lore to feminize anything man
Unless that group of men is a bunch of members of "the Tribe" and their common goal is murdering their twentieth-century foes...hmm...really gets the noggin joggin
We're at the stage of cinema where what 5 men can do is done by 1 woman like wtf??? The next generation of men is growing to literally hate women and feminism and all that trans bullsht, ever wondered why statistics show that Western men move to eastern countries to find families? Cause fck wole women bullsht. People are so sick of it
It's messed up that seemingly everything Henry Cavill gets involved with somehow turns into patronizing garbage. Because he DARES being a MAN (straight and white too, of course) who actually wants to make a good product. The fact that the Custodes were the ones to be changed, knowing they're his favorite faction is quite a gross "coincidence" too.
his agent keeps setting him up with these mentally ill studios and companies, sounds like he needs a new team which understand the times we are living in
They can't stand him because he shows all the traits they know they don't have. He is strong and good looking he's educated a gentleman British, white and a decent actor who cares about the projects he works on. He has principles and sticks to them while they are sad sick evil people slaves to money and the favour of their corporate masters.
Warhammer 40k is a richly textured universe built upon decades of lore, art, and gameplay that has captivated fans worldwide. The setting, which is grim, dark, and often brutal, serves as a backdrop for epic battles and intricate narratives. Proposing changes solely to cater to one demographic, such as women, risks diluting the essence of what makes Warhammer 40k unique and beloved by its existing fanbase. Here are a few reasons why altering Warhammer 40k solely to make women feel more included might not be advisable: 1. **Authenticity**: Warhammer 40k has established a distinct identity over its long history, characterized by its grimdark aesthetic, over-the-top violence, and morally ambiguous factions. Changing this to fit a specific demographic could compromise the authenticity of the universe and alienate the existing fanbase who appreciate it for what it is. 2. **Artistic Integrity**: Games Workshop, the company behind Warhammer 40k, has a responsibility to preserve the artistic integrity of its creation. While inclusivity is important, it shouldn't come at the cost of compromising the original vision of the creators or the immersion of the established fanbase. 3. **Diversity Already Exists**: While Warhammer 40k may have been initially dominated by male-centric narratives and imagery, the universe has evolved over time to include diverse characters and factions. From the powerful Sisters of Battle to the enigmatic Eldar, there are already numerous strong female characters and factions within the lore. 4. **Inclusivity Through Expansion, Not Revision**: Instead of changing existing aspects of Warhammer 40k to appeal to specific demographics, Games Workshop can focus on expanding the universe to include more diverse perspectives and narratives. This approach allows for the organic growth of the lore while respecting its established foundations. 5. **Respecting the Fanbase**: The existing fanbase of Warhammer 40k has invested time, money, and emotional energy into the universe. Making drastic changes solely to appeal to a new demographic risks alienating this dedicated fanbase, potentially leading to a loss of interest and revenue for Games Workshop. In summary, while inclusivity is an important goal, it should be approached in a way that respects the existing lore, fanbase, and artistic integrity of Warhammer 40k. Rather than altering the core elements of the universe, Games Workshop can focus on expanding the lore to include a wider range of perspectives and characters, ensuring that all fans feel welcome without compromising what makes Warhammer 40k special.
@@logandelaharpe6362 Yes, but that would've been very foolish of him after the Witcher debacle. + he's an executive producer. Maybe he is ok with female Custodes and underestimates the fan reaction. Only time will tell.
I mean, Bequin is a pretty powerful female character in Eisenhorn, saving him multiple time. Outside of Eisenhorn, we have Saint Celestine as a supremely powerful female human character, who has nice interactions with Inquisitor Greyfax, another female human. On the non-human side, we could go into Yvraine's search for the crone swords (some expansion on this lore would be very welcome), or talk about the female Necron Overlord, Xun'Bakyr - the Mother of Oblivion. There's no shortage of powerful female characters. They just hate that men also have their own space.
Celestine would be a weird main character though. They could literally make up any badass female inquisitor, do an original story and as long as the aesthetics/lore is half-decent, and the story bearable, it'd be a hit. Rogue trader, a Sister's palatine/canoness/superior (even hospitaller could work and be very interesting), imperial officer, commissar, zealot,... there are so many great options to show off. No need to go big names like Greyfax as main characters if they want to avoid unnecesary issues while still having a female lead.
I remember reading a war hammer book that featured some members of the Sister’s of Silence. They use sisters that have not taken their vows to communicate outside of their order. Was that too hard? I mean it made them more interesting to me as characters. That they had that level of nuance.
For the record, the Sisters are BAD ASS! You missed out here Amazon. Congratulations. Also Henry leaving any show is often a good sign he is warning us.
I've only watched the first 2 seasons of the Witcher, but even in the 2nd one he wasn't a lead actor based on screen time. Only netflix is able to make a show about witcher and not show witcher and instead push agenda for people who don't even watch the show.
It's big corpos we are talking about, when do they care for the lore of the stories? All they care about is money... which is ironic, since you think at this point they should realize that actually making something that the fans of those franchise will be profitable, instead of trying to cater for everyone (no one's) and make a gamble that 99% fails.
"update outdated concept to appeal to a modern audience" - that sentence hit me the most. Not watching a woke desaster show is one thing, but how many of us are willing to acutally quit their Amazon account - that´s what we should do. Same applies to NF and Disney.
it's so weird that they say "we gonna change this because of the fans" like what the fuck are you even thinking? do they really think fans will appreciate changes in the lore of beloved franchises? it's so stupid that all these people (star wars, marvel, DC and all the wokes) are sitting on franchises that could potentially generate billions just by doing what the franchise say. why the fuck would anyone waste hudreds of millions in a productions that goes completely against what the fans say?? the only logical reason is the g-ay mafia in hollywood and usa in general
Exactly. They don't want money, they don't want popularity, they don't want to make something beloved or that will last. They only want 'a small offering of earth and water', they want all to bow down to them.
He was til a similar company like sweet baby ink joins the convo and insert woke sht sweet baby was the company for games to make them woke i bet there's also one for movies
They’re not doing it because they’re too dumb to learn from their past mistakes. They’re doing it because they’re evil and look to destroy anything heroic or manly. They want young boys to have no strong male role models so they grow up too soft to stand against their tyranny
The sister of silence were supposed to be the custodes variants of female warriors, they even fought back to back proving they are worthy of such consideration. If amazon wanted female custodes they just should've brought them
what do you expect from Amazon? they have clearly not learned from the past and are just repeating history all over again, and as you point out, it makes no sense for Warhammer 40K. they had everything they could want, but used non of it
It's not good enough cause they want a female stronger than space marine and equal to the golden boys hell if they revealed primarchs give or take they'd make the 2 forbidden/forgotten primarchs female just because they will never make a show that has men more powerful than a female so they have to make them equal, What a fcking joke
They hate sisters of battle because its a group of real women, they dont care about real women, just want make false female protagonism and destroy the idea of organization and positions in society
Not only are the Sisters of Battle an all-female faction, they are one of the most badass factions in the entirety of 40k lore. If Amazon wants strong female representation, they need look no further than the faction that mortals and chaos both fear and respect.
everyone saw what happened after the witcher lost henry canvill? i would think they would learn from that never involve politics or change the plot to a video game. gamers are heavily
Makes you think how bad their writers are if they cant figure out a way how to insert female characters into a existing lore. Sounds like bloody amateurs to me.
Even fanfic writters are better than them lol besides none of them read/watch the lore (even as a casual).... So how would they know that they could just put like idk... a sister of battle or a female guardsman on the story to help alongside the ultramarines?
@@Brekhald If that's what they want, they STILL have other options: female psykers, female assassins with the right preparation, hell, even female guardsmen operating heavy weaponry.
poor Henry just can't get a break. "Why won't you let me save you?!" And yet the corpos are hellbent on catering to people who are not even the target audience, happy to alienate actual fanbase (because they are, apparently, not welcome in the first place)
They don't want to use the Sisters of Battle because they're "too religious"? Bruh, all of warhammer40k is super religious. It's part of the whole overarching theme!
Without Cavill there is exactly a 0% chance of me watching the show
We must protect and support one of our fellow nerds
What if he stays on and helps them destroy the IP? cause that is a very good possibility that Cavil loves GW more then the Lore and is ok with making the changes as long as it GW making them. Him leaving the project is just a rumor still so we don't know.
Until they undo this I won't watch it or do anything with warhammer, buy, build or paint.
As soon as its official it's time to #BoycottgamesWorkshop
Let the company fall to oblivion, then initiate a hostile takeover and buyout and purging this heretical garbage, maybe even get cavill in on the buyout
Its time for the next step in the fight against the agenda
The first company boycotted, bought out by the consumers and returned to normalcy from the woke message
it's time to #BoycottgamesWorkshop
Let the company fall to oblivion, then initiate a hostile takeover and buyout and purging this heretical garbage, maybe even get cavill in on the buyout
Its time for the next step in the fight against the agenda
The first company boycotted, bought out by the consumers and returned to normalcy from the woke message
GW better realize that we're here for Cavill's Warhammer, not for Amazon's Warhammer.
Fuck em Both.
Hell Greese them up and feed them all to Slaanesh.
The show wouldn't be Warhammer 40k. Could never be really Warhammer 40k.
Given the lore.. and vastness of what is 40k.. your only going to get may be 20% of 40k, in a hour long episode.. If they had starred the show back in the 90s.. they might be close to 60% by now.
Amen brother
at this point i dont even need him to act, we need him to direct!
@@Lostinthesauce280 Im here hoping for an R rated 40k series, but the fact is it wont have the same humor as The Boys so its unlikely it will be as graphic and therefore watered down. Hope I'm wrong but its a two big greedy corpos trying to target the general public, we're not the target audience so best hope Warhammer+ keeps pumping out series.
I agree BTW, but at the same. Time I guess it's Amazon. Giving the billions to run the show so they don't really have a choice
“They rejected the sisters of battle because they are too religious”
That alone shows how disconnected they are from the source material
Bro they rejected my space waifus it's a bad day or Amazon. Id rather use aliexpress not even gona cap
Having hope in Amazon's Warhammer makes someone more disconnected from reality than Amazon is with the source material.
religion is like one of the biggest subjects in 40k wtf
I think that should be enough to call the studio discriminatory
Waiiit... don't you get cleansed in the Imperium if you're religious?
Sisters of Battle are too religious? Warhammer 40k is basically a holy war. Everything is religious.
For real, does Amazon not realize that one of the major themes in 40k’s universe is religious fanaticism? Of course not, they don’t because they don’t care about the source material.
It's not that they are religious. It's that they worship a white man as God Emperor.
Right, every earth faction kinda sees Emperror like a god, his soldiers are ready to die for him. If this isnt religious then I dont know what is. Sisters of Battle and Silence are no different, does Amazon think that those female factious should be talking about feelings and rainbows, while durring nights they have pillow fights. They dont want ot use those for some retarted reasons like "too religuous" or "women beign forced to be silent is sexist". So what do they expect, shouting Karens that fight for their foodstamps or something.
They gonna make Sigmar transgender with some pronaunce
it tells the type of people amazon hires
The Film industry is insane. Henry Cavill should create his own studio and specialize in game and book adaptations.
👍
That's the idea of the year.
YES
Good idea.
Kickstart this idea now
*Changes the lore to pander to those who don’t even like the franchise* “where did all the fans go?”
QUIT complaining Dota have done that for over half a decade now.
@@kalzonenuSo what?
@@kalzonenuDota’s a highly competitive MOBA, so the lore’s like one of the least important factors to its success. 40k’s popular because the lore is sick. This is not a good comparison.
At this point, everyone in Hollywood, Netflix, Amazon, etc. Are just straight up disrespecting Henry and it's disgusting.
where has cavil said he is upset
They think they're better than him and you.
it's cause Henry is a true fan of the franchises he wants to play in and woke hollywood hates fans
No, they’re taking out a strong man that stand on his values. People higher up want us weak. That’s why every male character these days is a bumbling idiot or gay. They don’t want young boys to have good male role models. Those kids will grow up to stand against the thrants
They are disrespecting all of us, and I put even Warner Bros into this. Henry is the only Superman that i want to see in a movie.
wtf is wrong with Hollywood. Cavill is literally the perfect Superman, the perfect custodes, the perfect Witcher, not only because he is basically a demigod himself, but also loves the source material.
That are that fucking stupid and drunk with agenda/ideology.
Source Material doesn't matter to Insane Progressive Morons. Source Material when it comes to History or Fantasy to them is just a template that isn't set in stone but it's just a free space to do whatever to it. Oh there haven't been any Gay character? They add some. Or sees very Popular Female Figures that dress provocatively changes their sexuality into being a Lesbian or Bisexual. It's all because of Self Inserts. Some moron at Amazon can't handle biological Facts that both Reality and Fantasy have to adhere to if it's to be perceived as good. Males/Men are Physically Superior to Women because we're built differently to do more physical labor. But to them Physical Inferiority means Mental Inferiority. So Men have Superman, Women demand their own version they couldn't settle for Wonder Woman so they created Captain Marvel whose named sake is based on a White Male Character. Space Marines and Custodes are all Male because that's just common sense and even though both are based in a Fictional World that doesn't mean that just because it's Fictional means you can arbitrarily change something into something which it's not and when people come to defend their territory gets Insulted by being Labeled a Gate Keeper or Gate Keeping as if defending what's yours is considered a negative thing. We say No this is our House you can't do what you want you abide by our rules or leave. They say I'm going to do it anyways and then proceeds to oppress themselves on everyone and everything disregarding your houses rules becomes a Squatter and then claims squatters rights. And then when you finally have enough and say pack your shit I'm through with you crap leave or I'll throw you out. They act like the victim and they find someone whose bigger and more stronger than you whose sympathetic to them and has them turn the tables making you the oppressor then you find yourself getting kicked out of your own house by people who should have never been there. That's how almost every Fan of Fantasy/Sci-Fi shows feel after they go Woke and turn to sewage. Sorry but Spraying Fa-breeze isn't going to be enough to change the perceptions of Sewer and Home as the same thing.
He's the hero they need, but not the one they deserve.
All of these major companies are tied to blackrock and vanguard. All of the Executives are being paid to push this DEI agenda on absolutely everything they produce. The real question is why?
Because he's Str8 White Male with a Brains? 😂
changing the codex so u can allow amazon to basically insult the intelligence of the fan base is so grimey man
its Nurgle levels of nasty and toxic, IMO.
@@Zoie3x8 no its worse since Father Nurgle gives blessings while this is a cures...
Hollywoke doesn't deserve Henry Cavill
Indeed.
No, they don't, but he's the hero we need.
Yes. Always love a celebrity who puts the audience first.
Neither do his woke co-stars, apparently. Was really excited for Cavill’s new movie but now, after seeing Alan Richardson’s meltdown…not so much.
Yeah, someone with passion instead of someone that wants to make a product
"If I cannot save 40k from your failure Games Workshop, then let the Galaxy BURN." - Henry Cavill
this essentially would be if the horus heresy was reversed somewhat, where the emperor was corrupted and horus is the good guy.
Henry Cavil confirmed one of the missing Primarchs
Amazon not Games Workshop
@@Cipher00007 I don't know man. GW, although strong armed, did comply with Amazon. I think GW didn't want to but "had no other choice" by working with Amazon
@@KnudAutlermann then they will go broke, just like Budweiser. and all who go woke.
Without Cavill there is exactly a 100% chance of me *NOT* watching the show.
I would watch it, but from pirated source
@@ishlazz1307 and waste ur time watching female custodes
They couldn't showcase the women that are already in 40k lore , nope they had to make sure a male only faction had women.
The curse of DEI
What really pisses me off is they had reasons for not using Sisters of Silence/Battle, but then they turn and go "Well those are our only options so lets just change things". They purposefully ignored Female Eldar, Tau, Humans in the guard, Inquisitors, Adeptus Mechanicus, and so on just to push a message that didn't need pushing cause it was already there.
i rreally thought warhammer was safe but now i realize theyre even trying to change christianity or destroy it in the process. Of course they wont stop at entertainment this shit is like a spiritual war ngl elite world view meets reality type shit
Since GW wants to introduce women in a Brotherhood, then where are my brother in the Sisters of Silence? Or a transgendered Sister of Battle? Where is MY "representation and inclusion" in the Sisterhoods?
No, not being serious.
@@youngturtle69 Yep, its 100% a spiritual war. Karl Marx said they had to replace the church. Paulo Freire said the prophetic (marxist) church had to replace traditional churches. The UN's Robert Muller (not the FBI director) said the UN international project needed to unite and replace the various religions of the world under one world religion.
Extreme herecy.
Vote with your wallet people. It won't be the first time we've "bullied" an entire studio to fix something stupid.
they wont fix, GW will go down in flames. GW wanted these changes and have been trying to make them for years now. Now that they have Amazon and Cavil to blame they will just go along with all of it.
It's time to #BoycottgamesWorkshop
Let the company fall to oblivion, then initiate a hostile takeover and buyout and purging this heretical garbage, maybe even get cavill in on the buyout
Its time for the next step in the fight against the agenda
The first company boycotted, bought out by the consumers and returned to normalcy from the woke message
@MrWhateverfits Yeah, I think they'll do just fine. They were obscure once before, doesn't matter if it happens again. It's largely a childish issue that you can ignore, like me, because 40k is actually full of bad writing. It's about toys and art at the end of the day. Not your politics. GW want money. Do any of you paint? Or just bitch about some lore you know half arsed? You know the female space marines from the 80s?
I stopped playing gw years ago. There are better Wargames to play and i didn't like their direction. I think most people are not upset at the lore change itself. It's how it was lazily implemented. People like 40k for the deep and interesting lore, so any changes or retcons should of been just as deep or interesting. I'm reading fans write up better ways for female custodies than what GW did
If GW doesn’t go back on the change, I wouldn’t be surprised, look at every 40k book for the past 3 years, just pure woke garbage.
Warhammer is literally a world of zealous followers, killers and racists, thats the lore dont change it.
*Speciests, nobody's racist in Warhammer, lmao. Clown. No time for that with Xenos who want to brutally annihilate you at every corner
Like real world 🙋🏻♂️
Except, if you want it to be a successful show you need to appeal to more people and warhammer can't compete with other shows with outright racism or sexism.
@@bobdole3996 Except this, based on numerous examples over the last decade alone, does not work. If you change it for broader marketing you piss off and probably lose the people that love it already. And the changes you make most likely aren't going to make it appeal to many that didn't already have interest. This is niche source material. All you are going to do is ruin it for literally everyone involved and then blame the fans of the source material for the failure, decrying a toxic fanbase.
@aestos8673 as a marvel(comics) fan I agree. But that is the nature of cinema. It is the worst medium for storytelling. Because of Hollywood's profit model and need to appeal to the masses.
I could list millions of issues and inconsistencies with Marvel cinematic universe and the comics.
Like black Widow is only there for eye candy.
But while things like that sucked. The first movie and some others were cool and it was cool seeing some of the heroes I read about in comics visualized on screen.
My point is if you want a Warhammer movie you're going to have to accept what comes with it. Also, pray it's not successful like Marvel movies otherwise female custodes will be small changes compared to the fuckery to come.
The SOB are too religious? Bro, that’s like saying “we can’t make a movie about the crusades because they are too religious!” WARHAMMER is quite literally a giant holy war waged by multiple religiously fanatic factions, it’s basically the crusades cranked up to a billion…
If you haven't noticed, Hollywood has done exactly that already. To be clear, I'm agnostic, but I have eyes and ears.
When was the last time Hollywood made a movie that respected Christianity as a net positive?
Christians are more ridiculed, derided, persecuted, and made into bad guys than white males in most Hollywood movies.
Sure, they'll portray Muslims as virtuous and morally good people, but never Christians.
Factions as in internal imperial factions or are you also including the other races because no other species has religious zeloutry as a main theme besides humanity.
@@Adrian-Trivani Most main parts of the story or plots include the giant faction of the god emperor, occult people also quite technically worshipping something else, the rift that they use to travel has demons and demon gods. I feel like there is numerous aspects that all have their own religion. Too water that stuff down causes catastrophic changes to multiple pieces of really good lore and story. it's not some random niche aspect you can tweak whenever you feel like it. especially if you're doing it in complete disregard like they are doing because some factions that have religion quite literally also get their power through faith and devotion etc.
@@Adrian-TrivaniUm, you do realize the entirety of the Chaos factions straight up worship the Dark God's, don't you? They are every bit the religious zealots the Imperium of Man is, but instead of worshipping the Emperor, they worship His evil counterparts. Which is saying something in itself, seeing as Emps isn't exactly the posterboy for the forces of light and righteousness...
Huh, fair, i was completely wrong about this. I was thinking only of the major factions and completely disregarded chaos, didn't know what the logic i used was for chaos.
At this point, I trust Cavill more than I trust GW when it comes to Warhammer. If he ends up leaving the project, I'm not bothering watching. I have better things to do than be lectured to by an imbecilic cult.
Given that the Imperium _is_ an imbecilic cult...were you trying to do a thing, there, or are you one of those guys that doesn't think Starship Troopers was a satire?
Please.. the odds of your really watching that show was slim as is.
@@Eldeecueread the book, dont just watch the movie ffs.
@@Eldeecue Starship Troopers book was awesome! Movie was cheap satire and just pew pew pew and humans getting ripped apart.
Why would you watch to begin with? Anything attached to Amazon is going to suck
If Amazon isn’t happy about the lore, then they need to pick a different project
the problem is they dont care about the lore they only care about taking beloved and famous franchises but they sell on name recognicion alone
thats why we have all these shitty adaptations and why the people in charge dont care about the source material they just wanna make theyr own garbadge and slap a famous name on it so it sells better than theyr garbadge would otherwise
"They want a female in power armor who is powerful outside of her armor"
meanwhile, the Imperial guard...
Right? A badass veteran sergeant who has faced the terrors of the universe while only being a normal human. Way fuckin cooler than the powersuit factions anyway, imo.
Meanwhile in Comora and Any Craftworld 😊
@@roberttanguay8532 They're gonna keep it simple and focus on humans almost certainly. Which is a shame, since 40k offers so much more than that. But they don't have the confidence to introduce that complexity I'm sure. Not sure why Darktide had to go that route, though. Such a wasted opportunity.
@@Tiger74147 Badass? Enlisted Imperial Guardsmen are fodder. That doesn't play faithfully into the faction.
@@Levitiy lol mmkay hoss. Sure, they necessarily experience high casualties, but the expendability of IG is often overblown for comedic effect moreso than a basis in reality. They're the first and often last line of defense for the Imperium and do the brunt of ALL the work in its defense. For 10,000 years they've been Player #1 to stop demons, aliens, and other human factions. DESPITE being normal humans, they're the heavy lifters. It takes millions of them to do the work, and many won't make it, and they do it anyway. No matter the reason -- that's fucking badass. No clue what you mean aby "play faithfully into the faction." The Guard IS the human faction. It sounds like you're saying a soldier who died on the beach in Normandy wasn't a badass because he wasn't a Navy SEAL or something vapid like that.
They didn’t want sisters of silence because they couldn’t speak? What, are they discriminating against mutes? Mutes aren’t worthy of representation to them? Not in the almighty checklist are they? Hmmmm?
They didn't want Sisters of silence because they're handicapped
They didn't want sisters of battle cause they're zealot fanatics that gets wet when a custodes or space marines comes around
They didn't want female inquisitors that are badass, cool and have a sht ton of planet destroying arsenal on their command cause they would make women too violent or Commit warcrimes
And they don't want female Guardsman cause they will only follow orders from most likely male commissars, space marines and custodes
Basically if they're going to be a female that is under a male they won't add it, so case and point they probably didn't even want female custodes what amazon wanted was probably female primarchs :V and that's even worst because they're literally called sons of the emperor, if they wanted to be even more wild hell they would've made the emperor an empress ffs
they are short-sighted and skewed. Fricking hypocrites
Wow, I really appreciate You contextualizing that line. I completely glossed over their dismissal as I was so focused on the exclusion of the SoB. A silent character would be reminiscent of classic silent films to me. Humans communicating nonverbally is fairly universal.
They can't be girl bosses if they can't spout their nonsense so there's that...🤷♂️
@@AkinaGhostthey dont care about minority groups, they care about destroying male spaces and male roles. Corporations War on Men
I think Amazon doesn't realize, that warhammer is a dystopia, not some fancy good world sci-fi like star wars or star Treck... It's meant to be shitty, unfair and that Noone would want to live in that world..
And that imperium is not a light warriors but religious fascist state.
Necrons are techno fascist state.
Orcs...well, they just have fun.
How does diversity detract from that?
@@someoneElse4229 not being diverse is part of the dystopia... The world of 40k wouldn't be as horrific as it is, if it would be more diverse... And it's meant to be that horrific.
@@StupidWisdom That doesn't address HOW diversity detracts from the grimness. Women can be just as depraved, indoctrinated, tortured, and miserable as men, in my experience. I think they'll fit right in.
I think by this point, Henry Cavill has to be the director AND the main character of his own show/movies, just like Ryan Reynold has been doing to respect original sources
What do you refer to ?
I just start to learn and want to know more about it, maybe I already know about it but not that pzrt
@@orctriharRyan Reynolds played Deadpool in X-Men:Wolverine, which was pretty much a character assassination (character in the movie is totally opposite to character in the comics), he fought hard until they allowed him to make the Deadpool movie with his own script, which was much more true to source and a huge success, now he's making the "third" (he said it's not Deadpool 3, but it's the third movie with the character) with Deadpool amd Wolverine, with Hugh Jackman playing Wolverine again.
Ugh, Amazon is so unbelievably tiresome and rediculous. They had a golden goose here, a Warhammer 40K show with *Henry Cavil* for fucks sake. But they piss it all away for the sake of diversity like they did Rings of Power, or the Witcher. The true definition of insanity, that.
its the soclaists. they want to push DEI etc so they can destroy things that they can't control and make it political so non socialists cant escape from it and then some. its all political.
Thing is, they don't care about success in terms of money or popularity, not even IP value. The only thing that matters to them is politics and power. In that sense, they believe they are winning.
@@Sorain1Khrone cant get off his throne, Nurgle got scaredinto anothee house,tzeech made Malal take hisplace and she who smacks literally cant do athing unless youlet her in.
Evil can do minor things cuz of it collected Mass but it upto Us tostop them.
Defy them and Make new stuff.
Without sillh choasdogs. 😂
Read my comment above. It is not insanity. It is "The grand scheme of things" being pushed by BlackRock Corporation. Take out God, the constitution, the bill of rights, family values, groom little children to mutilate their genitals, accept the new reality. (read the book 1984 ...... it is happening right before your eyes.)
Witcher was Netflix, but yeah, same shit, different bucket 🙄
Imagine being someone trying to enjoy a fictional universe. Tourists insert themselves into said space, start changing it. Then when you say anything you are the threat and the enemy.
Predominately male spaces, women enjoy these fictional universes too but it’s a space where guys can escape the grindstone that is the modern world.
Stories of Brothers fighting against insurmountable odds and sacrificing everything for what they believe in. Stories that inspire you and make you ask questions of morality.
People used to look at fictional characters and aspire to try emulate their resolve and ideals. The hero’s journey made manifest.
Not anymore. It’s a sad state of affairs.
This "everything for everyone" mindset is just plain stupid.
i mean i kinda get what you’re saying but like… idk that there’s anyone in the warhammer universe who’s ideals you should try to emulate lmao
also no one is stopping you from doing this. literally nothing has changed. old warhammer still exists, got knows the tabletop wargaming community isn’t exactly oversaturated, even now 😂 if you don’t think you’ll like the show, don’t watch it, but stop complaining about shit that has no effect on how you personally enjoy the hobby
@@goblinsuburbits very obvious. He's a fan and he cares about 40k. No fan would allow a company notorious for turning franchise to crap overnight to use their beloved story
@@Beeaannsss are they getting rid of existing books? are they supervising your home games to ensure that you play in accordance with any changes they make? if not then i really don’t see the issue here
3D print your own figurines, photocopy or PDF's the books, rent your own spaces. You can totally continue the hobby without Games Wokeshop.
OPR!
Games WokeShop is dead.
And Sell your Minis. Every second Hand mini is Dollars less in gw‘s Pockets
100%. games workshop doesn't deserve your money
In the middle of printing out an entire krieg company. All 1000+ troops. Fuck GW
Cavill being attached to it was THE selling point since he's been hugely outspoken about his life long passion for Warhammer having played it since he was a kid. Amazon seriously underestimated his nerd cred
We were going to machine parts for Amazon, they sent a questionnaire wanting to know how many diversity hires we had, owner told them to piss off.
What are they going to do check your people’s ethnicity? In that case i have four workers who identify as puerto rican, bob is sally, and Gregory is 70% german and 30% of African descent.😂
@@jeffs3119 you're not wrong, but I can understand not playing ball with anybody that asks dei questions. We might end up regretting it the way things are looking right now though 🤷♂️
@@SunTzuLaoAs someone who does actual DEI focused research, this shit pisses me off. A business can only be as diverse as its applicant pool. And a small business is going to be more specialized and have a small applicant pool. Amazon and governing agencies force quotas because it's easy and cheap. But increasing DEI starts with getting people to actually seek those opportunities and cultural biases against certain fields of work exist. If Amazon wants a diverse company machining their parts, they should pump money into education and outreach that makes exposure to that field possible for those who are less likely to encounter it. Maybe stop cutting shop class from core curriculum....
@@alajononon there's a meme I love that shows women deciding between two booths. One says STEM and the other says genders studies. All the women go to the gender studies booth and start waving signs about the need for more women in STEM.
@@74rocktiger74 heh. Doesn't work as well anymore now that there's lots of women in STEM and STEM academia is very focused on increasing diversity and accessibility. I'm a geochemist focused on Astrobiology. My MS advisor was a woman. My mentors at my NASA internships were women. I got into DEI research recently because I have ADHD and I'd like to add my perspective in trying to figure out how to be more accessible for people whose brains don't work as well with traditional academic learning. So one of the women on my PhD committee helped me devise a project. She's a paleontologist but also does DEI work to bring more people into the field of Geology. She's who showed me it's more about getting people interested and removing economic barriers than having quotas.
That’s gotta be heartbreaking for Henry Cavill. Imagine being a huge fan of the game, getting a role for the show, and then finding out diversity will shit all over it. That’s crazy.
He should have known better after the Witcher.
Should have integrated a clause in his contract against bs like this.
@@JanFWeh especially considering its amazon, saw it coming from a mile away though I was really hoping to be proven wrong.
@@JanFWeh the moment he did that it would make him unemployable aka blacklisted on political grounds etc. he has to go to pure political right wing sites and become political or it will be a matter of when before the socialists get him to submit to them.
He went to she who sucks without a anti succfield.
You forgot to add the word “again”
If you don't know, it's personal for him. His army is the Custodes, it's what he uses on the TT matches.
I don't understand how people are missing this?
Cavills favs are the custodians
Cavill gets to do a big 40k series
Probably involving the custodians (see 1)
No womxn in the custodians
CHANGE THE LORE
Now write women into the show!
I know, it's like a slap in the face to him personally
Those people are onthologically evil!
Bro, the embers from the Witcher series haven't even cooled, and the next studio is ALREADY doing the same thing... ffs
That’s what I’m saying dude they literally had an example of what not to do or risk losing cavil yet they still did it anyway 😭
Henry Cavill is a real giga chad for fighting for the hobby and protesting against the Lore changes
where is this guys sources
He's not though. This isn't true.
The lore change isn’t because of Amazon the writers wanted it why do you think custodes are refers to in gender neutral ways
Reject woke embrace authenticity
Let's see you painted army then?
@@josephmarkese8563 I agree with him - what do you wanna see? Thousand Sons, CSM, Slaves To Darkness, Disciples of Tzeentch? I don't mind female Custodes but I mind what it stands for - stupid change (and I only collect Tzeentch-aligned stuff!) not good change. Warhammer has a lot of amazing female only factions like both Sisters factions. While female Custodes are no problem for me, they will change more of it cause woke fools never stop. Gotta stand your ground NOW.
@@WithGas of course they will change the lore started from having a female custodian part lol
I think people admire henry for his conviction and his love for the source material (which Hollywood execs and show runners seem to despise), and when he sees it going south and the disrespect, he nopes out. He may not have had the most successful career (by being screwed by the industry) but his integrity is what wins him the fans. Like literally everyone loves him and will throw money at his projects, but Hollywood are too stupid and waste him
When are they going to realize that Cavill essentially represents our/actual fan opinions on sticking to lore, and that ignoring him leads to the shows bombing spectacularly.
the script isn't even done and the ship is already sinking LMAO
It’s as if wokeness is akin to Chaos.
The ship is still under construction and it’s already understaffed and half under water, absolutely ridiculous.
@@aarondecelle9532 Something that lures people in with good intentions that slowly warps into something malicious that becomes unrecognizable to the original goals, but compels people to stay anyways? Honestly, yeah, that does sound a lot like chaos.
@@aarondecelle9532even chaos chokes and dies on this
Amazon's narcissistic virtue signaling destroys everything they touch. To them nothing is sacred, everything is simply a profitable propaganda megaphone. My expectations and concerns appear to be manifesting precisely as I hoped they wouldn't. What an absolute injustice to what could've otherwise been potentially one of the coolest adaptations ever. Is it so hard for these people to shut up and stick to source material?
I feel bad for Henry, poor fella can't get a break. First Netflix, now betrayed by Amazon. Although, I love the fact that he stands his ground for what is right. I salute you Henry!!!
DC had no problem giving him the finger either.
I won't be buying official Games Workshop merchandise until they revoke the femstodes retcon. If GW had come out at the start and said that it was a retcon I would have been observably less pissed about it. But then they had to gaslight. They changed the lore and had the balls to say that they didn't.
only way that happens is GW to be politically purged of all left wing thought and more and embrace the right unconditionally. all places must either be opposing the socialists in all forms uncondtionally or they become socialists themselves inevitably. all one or the other.
@@TheManofthecrossit’s a very imperial mode of thinking. And no company would ever be stupid enough to do it. Frankly they are just less scared of you.
@@kagato23 For now. Their products appeal to a very niche audience who spend hundreds of dollars on plastic toys. It's not Disney.
@@TheManofthecrossyou sound unhinged. Please define socialism and tell me how it relates to GWs retcon blunder.
@@codyvandal2860 no, but they’ll make more money reaching to a wider audience successfully then they ever will appealing to you. Successfully is a key word, but you propose a way that keeps that from happening, and they’d rather try. Not to mention you’d gut GW itself more than you’d think. You really think purging all left just changes the guy in charge of their twitter?
"they rejected the sisters of battle bc they are too religious"
the adeptus mecahnicus : all me to introduce myself
Henry Cavill is the definition of born in the wrong generation. Imagine how much he could've achieved if he had this much platform as he has now in mid 2000s
Since their founding, there have always been male Sisters of Silence
- T. Z. Eench
Lmao
This comment is totally underrated.
And maybe a little bit of slaanesh
Lmfaoo
I haven't even played 1 warhammer game, just watching warhammer lores on yt and this here is funny lol
As soon as I learned Amazon was involved my heart dropped. I honestly wish that they had never tried to adapt 40k.
Amazon saying "SOB are too religious" sums it all up. They have no interest in representing this universe correctly.
I am 51 books into the heresy/SOT. If 40k goes off the rails I'll likely just put it down after this series ends.
Poor Warhammer.
As if the Sisters of Silence/Battle, the female Assassins, the Tech-Priestesses, the Imperial Guard female soldiers and the Eldar/Tau female warriors aren't enough.
We fans must respond to this intolerable corruption like this: Waaagh!
There are so many amazing strong female characters in Warhammer that everyone likes because they are beautiful and well written.
This other stuff is just giving the dog the bone and then everything else follows.
@@icarusdoe6209 simp
@@icarusdoe6209 the whole purpose of the sisters of battle was kind of to be strong until someone came along and no diffed the sisters to show how powerful the villain is. Ya know, like almost all factions.
People some people will want transgendr in the factions you mention💀 idk why they cantjust focus on the lore.
Both protect the Emperor of Mankind, one a Golden Brotherhood and one a Golden Sisterhood, but none being better than the other.
Tyberos, known as the Red Wake, is also a silent type (a very dangerous silent type).
@@cesarerinaldi6750 well that would be a straight lie. Even spartan women understood their purpose, to make children.
Boycotting HARD with this one! Enough is Enough, not one more dime for Any of these companies that Choose ESG, Forced Diversity, DEI, or Putting Stock holders like Vanguard or BlackRock OVER the Fans to sustained them or helped them grow into what they are now!
Hold the Line!
yeah man this sucks
Wow I was so excited for this series and now im probably not even gonna watch it. Wtf Amazon just leave it alone.
The ultimate arc would be henry ditching the show and having a crowd funded project that had huge success. Would be a symbolic moment and would be the nail in the coffin. We dont need you, we can do it ourselves and itll out perform your bullshit.
sorry not a fan, don't need warhammer animation or tv show whatever, these are just passion projects which can do die or be their own little thing
@@MGrey-qb5xz I am only half a fan, but I can say that if there is a fan project being funded and Henry Cavill is behind it, then the Warhammer community will have his back. plus the point that MGret-qb5xz is making is that a fan made Warhammer show will do better then what amazon will make. it's just a matter of fact.
@@LB-hr9vu it will do better but it's not gonna be something so desperate for
Recruit the guy who did astartes!!
@VydijaRuksana he's in to stuff which nerds are in to
but... but.... SISTERS OF SILENCE!!!! Custodes fight shoulder to shoulder with the legendary Sisters of silence! THAT'S A WHOLE DAMN GROUP OF FEMALE REPRESENTATION! Use it!!!!!
They want women and people of color to be strong , empowered and loud.
Yet they didn't understand that in Warhammer , nobody has power in the grim future.
They want to be represented where men are not in general.
They change it to brothers of silence because thats woke
The activists didn’t read that part of the lore
There were always male sisters of silence 😉
pretty simple rule... If you take the concept of something already established... STICK WITH IT, don't rewrite it to fit your narrative... shouldn't really be that hard... If something have a fan base, they like what is. Not necessary what you make.
Amazon doesn't realize they need him more than he needs them
For real. With the rise of Helldiver's 2, Palworld, and several other "double A" games, people getting sick or "triple AAA media" is starting to produce small-folks doing something about the garbage high budget films.
Henry should make his own studio or get one that is willing to do the right thing and leave all the woke shit behind. The problem is they wouldn't have enough money, I think the only reason Henry works with them is cause they have the money to do the CGI etc.
@@KnudAutlermannTrue. Media in general has become stale and soulless. In their attempt to reach all audiences all the time it feels like games and media are artificially pumped out at a factory than by people who actually care about creating art and entertainment.
These massive companies should be giving smaller budgets to smaller teams of people developing video games or filming movies/shows with 10x more freedom they get now. The passion in the project is lost more and more the further up the corporate ladder something has to go.
I despise AAA gaming more than anything and hope people are right about a crash on the horizon. Helldivers, Baldur’s Gate, Lethal Company, etc all coming out so recently and shitting on AAA games gives me hope
This is so cringe and disingenuous. I hate when these companies keep making women feel like the little sister the parents forced the older brother to play games with.
That’s a good way of putting it. They had every opportunity to make women included in a lore-friendly way, but opted for the most disruptive way of doing it for multiple reasons.
It’s the same thing that I and a lot of people have said about multiple franchises: I don’t want people to feel excluded, just don’t make a poorly written, poorly planned retcon as the solution.
“The sisters of battle are too religious”
The black templars and the Kreig death corps: *”THATS HILARIOUS”*
*_There's no problem with strong, powerful, women being represented in Warhammer 40K..._* Sisters of Battle, inquisitors, Imperial guard, etc. Had the script sought to represent them in the story everything would have been fine. But no... They had to undermine and subvert the Lore of the 40K universe by putting women where they didn't belong. Enough with this woke $&^+ Hollywood! If you're "writers" are incapable of sticking to the world lore, fire them and find some who can.
I am tired of witnessing the bad (un)fanfictions of these "writers".
The writers got hired precisely because they would ignore the lore, and push the dei/feminist agenda.
Totally agree and it’s not just this is across the board Witcher and movies and video games rather than just making strong female roles with out changing people that are by law male
Games Workshop introduced the female Custodes, Games Workshop crafts the lore. So the show is lore accurate. Btw why u hate women? Kinda sus.
@@altelt802it’s more so the fact that they refuse to use the lore that is already there and instead change what is already established for decades to push the WOKE agenda which is receiving such backlash as it’s retconning what is one of the most beloved factions by the actual players, admittedly I personally don’t play the game and are more so interested in the lore so I’m not gonna argue about any of this.
Onto the next IP.
Everything must have equal representation for women...unless it's spaces dominated by women. Those are off limits to men.
Warhammer never had equal representation. But that’s not the point the real issue is that they changed the lore, a shit ton of lore to appeal to 2% of the audience of the game. Real idiot move to push diversity. There are about 1000 other things they could have done to achieve a better result like making female guardsmen, which is lore accurate and makes sense.
@@dabbingraccoons6416 There are Female Guardsmen already. The Imperial Army has Female Soldiers. Or did u mean just make a movie about them?
@@Binichmoses2 no more minis
Let's completely ignore countless strong female groups that are lore accurate and many people would love to see, in exchange for disingenuous DEI
Sisters of Silence are Females that can keep up with Custodes due to their discipline, training and pure badassery. GW should've expanded their lore and made the focus on the fact they are females who can do everything their male counterparts can do without the need for being enhanced. Technically thats makes them better but that wasnt enough for the tourists and activists.
Exactly bro. Well said.
It actually fits with their regular modus operandi. They always ignore the real strong women (Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor and so many more lesser known ones) in media (and reality too) and only push artificial ones, that need so much help from in-universe tech or magic etc. and out-universe plot help, that a toddler could beat the big bad with that much assistance.
So ignoring the relatively mundane women which got to where they are by their own efforts, for ones that got just handed everything comes as no surprise whatsoever.
They probably had a problem with the word silence.
They should just call them the Sistrans of Silence and explain that they're actually usually men and the face guard is to hide the beards and manly chins. Yaaaas, clap. Slay.
When they first announced that Amazon would do the Show, a lot of people sensed that it would end like this.
You dumbasses believe a post that ends with “trust me, my dad works at Nintendo” 🤦♂️
The reason that they hate Cavil (and why Sam Witwer has been quiet as of late ?), is because he is a fan, and as a fan, knows the source material, and also as a fan who is also an actor (if not a Face-Actor) he WILL Happily forcibly-book-check them on wokian bullshit and blatant alterings of the framework-lore of said franchise-universe, especially when their agenda is to precisely and irrevocably ruin and destroy said framework-lore (and thus alienate fans of said franchise, thus ruining and destroying the franchise).
Henry Cavil should take his ball(everythig he has on the show) and go home. also get a new gig until amazon pulls its head out of its own ass.
Honestly I am thinking since GW are the ones changing the lore, at the behest of amazon or not, Cavil will just go with it cause he loves GW more then the lore. I hope it wont and he does keep his Tegrady but at this point most likely he will just finish one and then quit. Only by then the people will have turned on him.
If Henry took his ball and went home, I don't think it would be very hard for him to get a new gig doing anything.😊 Even If he went to the Home Shopping Network I would actually buy some things.
@@MrWhateverfits yeah it would definitely ruin his image if he went along with it.
Calling Henry a “groomer” and then proudly displaying your woke trans literature in children’s libraries. Okay.
uhh i dont think warhammer is for kids
@@grunt3906 it isn't
They specialize in projecting.
@@grunt3906warhammer adventures cof, what we think doesn't stop them from doing something and now this is about to get worse
@@grunt3906I started playing Warhammer when I was 12 years old, and won battles against adults at my local hobby shop.
Female Rogue Trader
Female Guardsman
Female Inquisitor
Female Planetary Governor
Female Techpriest
Female Commande/Admiral
Sisters of Battle
Sisters of Silence
Amazon - No
That's crazy that GW ordered CA to remove repeater handguns from total war unit because it was not lore friendly (such trivial thing), and now Amazon will change important things in lore because they need to put their strong gay trans woman in the show
I mean there was a reason why the writers often refer to custodes in gender neutral ways
so on point. Clear whats going on
@tianlandahl4590 the customer are obviously big ass warmongering men tf you mean
@@tianlandahl4590 oh, yeah, like brotherhood. Funny the wiki changed the term after the Custodes Codex even though it's a gender neutral term.
Put a chick in it and make em gay!
Ultramarines vs Ghurlboz Orkz and multicolored polyneutral traitor netflix black templars
I don’t buy anything that has even the slightest hint of Woke in it.
Pretty much the same. I can think of a single instance where I saw something woke and still said that overall it was good. The woke part was still immersion breaking though. Most of the time though, the woke part comes at the cost of quality, and so I get some garbage trying to preach BS political views at me. Not worth wasting my time, so I simply avoid it.
same.
All the woke crap is pushing me back to classic games. Gunna pirate the shit out of ps1and 2, Xbox, gamecube games in a few weeks. I'm kinda done with it.
Some woke is fine as long as it's not at the expense of the product you know like what we normally use to do all the time's and it was normal we can't become just as bad of those cultist people with the whole it's my way or the highway type of thing.
so you dont buy anything?
even the food is woke now
You can have all female things, you can have all minority things, so why is it an issue to have an all male group in something. The message comes across as it’s okay to be anything “except this thing”
Imagine you are going to a hardware store to buy a hammer, but the cashier insists that you will buy a screwdriver with a barcode for a hammer.
You cannot change the lore and characters , then expect people will just go and buy it cos its a totally different thing!
female custodes where mentioned 2 years ago in a book .... no one lost their shit then why now ?
@@happydappie691 this is a straight up lie
You new here, aren't you ? GW has constantly changed their lore. Were you here in 2015 when they took off the entire Warhammer Battle and replaced it by crappy Age of Sigmar. Plus, you can still buy only male custodes. I don't even think they have minis of female custodes. Do you even play custodes ? Do you even play WH40k or any miniature game from GW ? I'm asking to see if they will ever care about your whining.
At this point it feels like they just hate Henry Cavill and want to ruin everything he loves
He represents common sense, of course they have to destroy him.
@@rpersen He represents the fanbase as a very public figure they can try to crucify or get to bend the knee to "own" the rest of us, or to bird-dog the popular intellectual properties that still have "too many of the wrong kind" of fan.
its all political.
@@DogfaceSquirrel its all political. its the socialists and the left they want us all dead our way of life destroyed and more so we have nothing to go back to.
Hollywood is just ruining every male-dominant series from superheroes, to star wars, witcher, this. There are woman in all those series, strong woman. But they choose to change lore to feminize anything man
If Henry Cavill leaves or there are female space marines I'm not watching the show.
*custodes
We have reached the point where it would be avant- guard to have a story with a group of strong men working together towards a goal in a movie.
Unless that group of men is a bunch of members of "the Tribe" and their common goal is murdering their twentieth-century foes...hmm...really gets the noggin joggin
Predator has been amazing for like 35 years
We're at the stage of cinema where what 5 men can do is done by 1 woman like wtf??? The next generation of men is growing to literally hate women and feminism and all that trans bullsht, ever wondered why statistics show that Western men move to eastern countries to find families? Cause fck wole women bullsht. People are so sick of it
“Gatekeeping” when people who dont even play your ip don’t like your ip..
So true!
Amazon seems completely clueless as to the demographic they're marketing should be focused on.
It's messed up that seemingly everything Henry Cavill gets involved with somehow turns into patronizing garbage. Because he DARES being a MAN (straight and white too, of course) who actually wants to make a good product. The fact that the Custodes were the ones to be changed, knowing they're his favorite faction is quite a gross "coincidence" too.
Starting to sound like they set a trap for him and want him to walk -I guess the narrative will be he left 2 shows and is hard to work with
his agent keeps setting him up with these mentally ill studios and companies, sounds like he needs a new team which understand the times we are living in
They can't stand him because he shows all the traits they know they don't have. He is strong and good looking he's educated a gentleman British, white and a decent actor who cares about the projects he works on. He has principles and sticks to them while they are sad sick evil people slaves to money and the favour of their corporate masters.
@@dug3557not like that will horribly backfire on them like just about everything they do. Good thing i have my popcorn ready.
It only seems that way since almost everything is patronizing garbage, Henry Cavil or not.
Warhammer 40k is a richly textured universe built upon decades of lore, art, and gameplay that has captivated fans worldwide. The setting, which is grim, dark, and often brutal, serves as a backdrop for epic battles and intricate narratives. Proposing changes solely to cater to one demographic, such as women, risks diluting the essence of what makes Warhammer 40k unique and beloved by its existing fanbase.
Here are a few reasons why altering Warhammer 40k solely to make women feel more included might not be advisable:
1. **Authenticity**: Warhammer 40k has established a distinct identity over its long history, characterized by its grimdark aesthetic, over-the-top violence, and morally ambiguous factions. Changing this to fit a specific demographic could compromise the authenticity of the universe and alienate the existing fanbase who appreciate it for what it is.
2. **Artistic Integrity**: Games Workshop, the company behind Warhammer 40k, has a responsibility to preserve the artistic integrity of its creation. While inclusivity is important, it shouldn't come at the cost of compromising the original vision of the creators or the immersion of the established fanbase.
3. **Diversity Already Exists**: While Warhammer 40k may have been initially dominated by male-centric narratives and imagery, the universe has evolved over time to include diverse characters and factions. From the powerful Sisters of Battle to the enigmatic Eldar, there are already numerous strong female characters and factions within the lore.
4. **Inclusivity Through Expansion, Not Revision**: Instead of changing existing aspects of Warhammer 40k to appeal to specific demographics, Games Workshop can focus on expanding the universe to include more diverse perspectives and narratives. This approach allows for the organic growth of the lore while respecting its established foundations.
5. **Respecting the Fanbase**: The existing fanbase of Warhammer 40k has invested time, money, and emotional energy into the universe. Making drastic changes solely to appeal to a new demographic risks alienating this dedicated fanbase, potentially leading to a loss of interest and revenue for Games Workshop.
In summary, while inclusivity is an important goal, it should be approached in a way that respects the existing lore, fanbase, and artistic integrity of Warhammer 40k. Rather than altering the core elements of the universe, Games Workshop can focus on expanding the lore to include a wider range of perspectives and characters, ensuring that all fans feel welcome without compromising what makes Warhammer 40k special.
BRAVO!!!
After what they did to LOTR, only an idiot would let them make a movie using their IP.
They should remake "Saving Private Ryan" but insert females so they feel represented.
Lol I'd watch that.
Saving private parts
Saving Private Rihanna
and watch how none of the female cast will die, and they'll only kill the "Nazi men", but save the Nazi women and turn them into "allies"
Bit of a difference between changing the lore of a fictional future vs. a real historical event.
"Sisters of Battle are too _religious!"_
**Inquisition noises intensifies**
Cavil is a huge Warhammer fan , Amazon should have known better than to try and fudge the lore.
Let's wait how he'll actually react.
This is just a rumour. He might do it anyways in which case I'll lose a lot of respect for him.
He may not have a choice contracts and such
@@logandelaharpe6362 Yes, but that would've been very foolish of him after the Witcher debacle.
+ he's an executive producer.
Maybe he is ok with female Custodes and underestimates the fan reaction.
Only time will tell.
I mean, Bequin is a pretty powerful female character in Eisenhorn, saving him multiple time. Outside of Eisenhorn, we have Saint Celestine as a supremely powerful female human character, who has nice interactions with Inquisitor Greyfax, another female human. On the non-human side, we could go into Yvraine's search for the crone swords (some expansion on this lore would be very welcome), or talk about the female Necron Overlord, Xun'Bakyr - the Mother of Oblivion. There's no shortage of powerful female characters. They just hate that men also have their own space.
Alizabeth Bequin, Kara Swole, Patience Kys, Arianrod Asw Sweydyr... Off the top of my head... Each of them are fucking awesome.
Celestine would be a weird main character though. They could literally make up any badass female inquisitor, do an original story and as long as the aesthetics/lore is half-decent, and the story bearable, it'd be a hit. Rogue trader, a Sister's palatine/canoness/superior (even hospitaller could work and be very interesting), imperial officer, commissar, zealot,... there are so many great options to show off. No need to go big names like Greyfax as main characters if they want to avoid unnecesary issues while still having a female lead.
I remember reading a war hammer book that featured some members of the Sister’s of Silence. They use sisters that have not taken their vows to communicate outside of their order. Was that too hard? I mean it made them more interesting to me as characters. That they had that level of nuance.
For the record, the Sisters are BAD ASS! You missed out here Amazon. Congratulations.
Also Henry leaving any show is often a good sign he is warning us.
If I'm Henry Cavill i will abandon ship already.
He has almost certainly signed a contract
@@logandelaharpe6362 so? that hasnt stopped thousands of producers to jump ship with failed projects, lol
He’s also an actor in the series and would have a far harder time just ditching
Henry is the last line of defense for an accurate movie
"They didn't learn from the Witcher's mistakes"
No, they didn't because they don't consider losing the male lead a 'mistake'.
I've only watched the first 2 seasons of the Witcher, but even in the 2nd one he wasn't a lead actor based on screen time. Only netflix is able to make a show about witcher and not show witcher and instead push agenda for people who don't even watch the show.
So they think an inquisitor would not be "enhanced" and would be weak and helpless without powerarmor? Do they even 40k?
It's big corpos we are talking about, when do they care for the lore of the stories? All they care about is money...
which is ironic, since you think at this point they should realize that actually making something that the fans of those franchise will be profitable, instead of trying to cater for everyone (no one's) and make a gamble that 99% fails.
"update outdated concept to appeal to a modern audience" - that sentence hit me the most. Not watching a woke desaster show is one thing, but how many of us are willing to acutally quit their Amazon account - that´s what we should do. Same applies to NF and Disney.
.....Is there a Brother of Silence too? what a bs
🤣😂.. it's the "They/Thems of Battle"!!
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How does a mega-corp kill a fan loved franchise? They slash them.
it's so weird that they say "we gonna change this because of the fans" like what the fuck are you even thinking? do they really think fans will appreciate changes in the lore of beloved franchises? it's so stupid that all these people (star wars, marvel, DC and all the wokes) are sitting on franchises that could potentially generate billions just by doing what the franchise say. why the fuck would anyone waste hudreds of millions in a productions that goes completely against what the fans say?? the only logical reason is the g-ay mafia in hollywood and usa in general
Exactly. They don't want money, they don't want popularity, they don't want to make something beloved or that will last. They only want 'a small offering of earth and water', they want all to bow down to them.
This woke bull shit has to go, I am getting so sick of this crap
I thought the one thing Cavill said is a must is he gets full creative control?
He was til a similar company like sweet baby ink joins the convo and insert woke sht sweet baby was the company for games to make them woke i bet there's also one for movies
The fatcat suits at Amazon have learned nothing from their Lord of the Rangs: The Rangs of Girl Power.
They’re not doing it because they’re too dumb to learn from their past mistakes. They’re doing it because they’re evil and look to destroy anything heroic or manly. They want young boys to have no strong male role models so they grow up too soft to stand against their tyranny
The sister of silence were supposed to be the custodes variants of female warriors, they even fought back to back proving they are worthy of such consideration. If amazon wanted female custodes they just should've brought them
What is wrong with Amazon????. Why can't they just make a show fans want?
They don't want to make a show fans want, or would make money. It's all politics with them.
Yet you have the whole sisters of battle being an entire female force, why is that not good enough....
what do you expect from Amazon? they have clearly not learned from the past and are just repeating history all over again, and as you point out, it makes no sense for Warhammer 40K. they had everything they could want, but used non of it
They're not the poster kids for the franchise Space Marines are. Female Custodes are a prelude to female Space Marines.
It's not good enough cause they want a female stronger than space marine and equal to the golden boys hell if they revealed primarchs give or take they'd make the 2 forbidden/forgotten primarchs female just because they will never make a show that has men more powerful than a female so they have to make them equal, What a fcking joke
They hate sisters of battle because its a group of real women, they dont care about real women, just want make false female protagonism and destroy the idea of organization and positions in society
It's not about making female spaces. It's about destroying male spaces.
Just like "diversity" means no white people.
Not only are the Sisters of Battle an all-female faction, they are one of the most badass factions in the entirety of 40k lore. If Amazon wants strong female representation, they need look no further than the faction that mortals and chaos both fear and respect.
Did they learn nothing from what happened with HALO?
Or Rings of Power.
Apparently not.
Henry Cavil is the people's champ. He is a nerd just like us. I wish i could tell him in person that we appreciate him for his dedication to his craft
everyone saw what happened after the witcher lost henry canvill? i would think they would learn from that never involve politics or change the plot to a video game. gamers are heavily
Anything that’s not remotely accurate to the source material is just fan fiction.
Makes you think how bad their writers are if they cant figure out a way how to insert female characters into a existing lore. Sounds like bloody amateurs to me.
Amateurs? They aren't even amateurs at that point
Even fanfic writters are better than them lol
besides none of them read/watch the lore (even as a casual).... So how would they know that they could just put like idk... a sister of battle or a female guardsman on the story to help alongside the ultramarines?
@@ashurad_fox5991 that's the point. Fanfic writers are the true amateurs. They aren't even writers.
@@Brekhald If that's what they want, they STILL have other options: female psykers, female assassins with the right preparation, hell, even female guardsmen operating heavy weaponry.
Some fanfic writer in the internet is better than actual show writers these days such a shame
poor Henry just can't get a break. "Why won't you let me save you?!"
And yet the corpos are hellbent on catering to people who are not even the target audience, happy to alienate actual fanbase (because they are, apparently, not welcome in the first place)
Nothing short of GW pulling the bogus lore and apologizing will get me to have anything to do with Warhammer again...ever
They don't want to use the Sisters of Battle because they're "too religious"? Bruh, all of warhammer40k is super religious. It's part of the whole overarching theme!
Didn't custodes have sisters of silence so why they adding female custodes