WARNING ⚠️ Japanese Pokémon Boxes are Mapped!? Let’s find out
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- Rumor has it that the latest Pokemon Blue Sky Stream booster boxes are mapped! Meaning you can predict what packs contain hits and what does not simply by where they are placed in the box.
Well, we don't just trust rumors. Today, we put it to the test. Can we predict which packs of Pokemon Blue Sky Stream will have a hit?
Let's find out.
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Are there any patterns you can see in those boxes?
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Only pattern i saw is that all SR were on the right side of the box. Maybe its a thing?
You're bad for this hobby, making videos like this for clout 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Every Japanese and Korean box can be weighed, they are very easy to weigh. I don't normally do the insert ones though. Been doing it for years. Before anyone comments mine are always labeled light when selling.
Pat what's your po box address
Is it just me or did the first 2 have 15 hits?
I find it weird how Japanese packs no longer contain card inserts that prevented this weighing situation. I know people got around it but at least it made things a bit more difficult. Now it turned into a free-for-all. Also, Pat. Don't lie. We all know you just wanted to open more of this awesome set! Lmao.
Haha, it was a double duty video - reveal the truth and open more of a fun set! 😁
The answer is Japanese cards didn't really start to be faked until recently I started with Japanese after my vintage days and when I started just about a year ago boxes were going for 50$ plus 24-30$ shipping and you never had to worry because it came directly from Osaka from a reputable distributor
The Japanese market it totally different to the international 1
those code cards did nothing to help
Because they made cards have variable weight instead
YESSSS, please weigh evolving skies when it comes out, cause I see people locally selling single packs of English sets and I feel like they could be weighed, even though a green code is heavier than a white code, I still wonder!! Thanks Pat this video was awesome!!
I got scammed a lot buying singles, packs were weighted for sure
I think that only works at japanese sets, what scammers do at ours sets is open a booster box (wich usually has a certain number of hits) and when they take the hits just sell the other packs, so if u buy single packs u still can have a hit but is way difficult because of that.
You can still weigh them I'm pretty sure that the packs that contain full arts are still heavier, could be wrong but.... The way they make the textured cards makes them heavier still, so unless the code cards in those are even lighter they probably weigh a fraction more
Can’t weigh. I did a test with my brother. The code cards are weighted to throw it off. One I opened a holo on a “heavy” pack that was 1.5 grams heavier than a rainbow rare. What actually happens is these people buy a couple booster boxes. They grab a random pack and open until they hit the rainbow or full art trainer. Then sell the other 15-20 maybe even 30 packs depending on how “lucky” they are (I say lucky because F*** people selling out their booster boxes knowing the only valuable pull is gone)
@@chiefbig6459 u have to determine the variables.they most definately are weighable.heavy is only guaranteed hit in 3 card packs.10 card packs is more tricky. you have to figure it out.
I just got back into Pokemon cards after about 25 years away from it. Its absolutely insane how dark the underbelly of this hobby can get. As far as people scalping, stealing etc..
yes it takes away a lot of fun just because you always have to look behind the offer and hopefully it will be a sealed original product without scalping or manipulation through weighing etc. :(
They also busted a tcg store selling Pokemon cards because it sold fordged cars last year. I think it was in Tokyo? It literally was run by Yakuza too.
yea just buy the official stuff and dont worry about the other stuff
You can absolutely weight any and all Japanese packs from modern era. I have done it for my own self to see because I wanted to make sure I don’t buy from someone scamming me and ya it’s extremely easy to weight them so PSA do not buy single Japanese packs from eBay please don’t you will get light packs!
I sell loose packs on eBay and I would never recommend anyone buy loose Japanese packs from any source.
I have one source on Amazon that I buy japanese packs loose from because I always get hits, I'm afraid to buy anywhere else
only detective pikachu promo packs because of all holos :D
As always, the transparency and honesty rocks. Thanks for passing on the info and keeping it real.
Honestly the realest Pokemon tuber out there! You always ask relative questions and ones which benefit the community. You are always looking out for the smaller guy which is rare for someone as successful as you, we all appreciate you man ❤️
No
Realest?
This kind of info is greatly appreciated. Scammers already know all the tactics to rip people off. Newer collectors need to educate themselves with this kind of info to protect themselves.
Another step beyond what you showed here is that most Japanese boxes usually only have one "special rare" card, whether it be an alt art or rainbow. The scammers weigh the packs, rip the heavies until they pull that one card then they may pepper in one of the leftover heavies per X amount of packs they're selling so they don't blatantly look like they're ripping you off.
PSA: If you're going to buy loose packs, make sure it's from a reputable source like a trusted game shop or subscription box. Always safer to save up those extra dollars and just buy a sealed box.
Thanks Pat! You always deliver epic content! Both entertaining and educational.
People gonna start getting weighing scales when they gonna buy Pokémon cards now
They already have
Really interesting video to watch. All modern Japanese packs are weighable. There is no need to map this box. Only buy loose packs if you’re doing art sets. Stay safe everyone!
Buying in box or on store will be the safest way, if your planning on opening some packs.
Hey mukKi!
@@ihpokemonopenings Sup Isaiah !
I've been getting Japanese Sun and Moon booster boxes for a month or two and completed sm10, sm10b, sm11a with one booster box each! Not including secret rares, I was incredibly surprised
I’ve thought about getting some Japanese boxes to open on my channel! Something about Japanese cards are just so cool to me.
If this is true, I’m not buying packs on eBay ever
You should never buy loose packs online anyway *unless* its from a seller that you really trust that has a reputation to uphold.
it is. He did it right in front of us. make me wonder about pretty much every other set......
Ye lol
Werid how I pulled multiple secret rares from lots of single packs I bought off of eBay a few months ago.
@@blueyfilmzz thats awesome and great that you found an honest seller but implying it doesn't happen is foolish.
The third box you opened had 2 SR cards which is possible but rare, nice box! Also thanks as always for this information and congrats on the hits.
Wait till you get all the newer boxes after like a week after a new box comes at any poke center, they are stacked and worth more usd than the same card in American letters because it’s from a different continent,in Japan American ones are rarer.
With your first method, if we are talking strictly in terms of hit, we would need to open at least 10 Boosters to see if there is any pattern, and the second method of sorting the packets is scary.
Why I personally dont like to buy loose packs.
10, 12, and 28 all had hits, but we would need more data to confirm these to be hot spots.
and 5
Thank you so much for that!! The wife and I are new to the scene but always thought this was something that was do-able. We eventually got a scale because we got screwed here now there. Now we’re only buying Lost origins, silver tempest atm but did notice when ST first came out we weighed every pack in 1 box and they were weighable. I heard they fixed that but who knows for sure.. thanks!!
I'm not going to deny I made a huge mistake with this! I live in Japan and the packs sell like hot cakes so hard to buy anywhere. Found a small shop selling individual packs behind a glass cheaply and thought wow! Bought a bunch of them to find they'd all be duds....I was so disappointed. I thought people that opened the packs only for the rare ones and sold off the dud packs but didn't know it was so easy... :( Now I have a massive ton of singular common cards lol
It didn't show that the box was mapped but it definitely showed that the secret rare comes on the right side of the box and after 18 usually,just what I noticed.
also packs 5, 10 and 28 seem to be guaranteed to have a hit
I haven't collected pokemon cards since the 90s but i still enjoy watching theses vids.. you do it with so much passion and authenticity im glad i found you 😁
Some random guy with a printing machine: "Okay guys we need to print some common cards and less rare cards."
People on the internet:
6:44
"this is a hot one here 🥵"
*[ EXPOSED ]*
The fact that you’re thinking that makes YOU the exposed one 🤣
Smash
Thanks for the heads up! I was gonna pull the trigger on some English Pokémon GO loose booster packs. Guess I'll have to stick with the boxes/sets/tins....
Holy cow. Thank you for this information. Ive been thinking of getting specifically eevee heroes packs and am glad i didnt now. Was already cautious about things online and this just shows more why.
Yeah, some vintage sports cards sets you can predict what’s in the box and where by opening the first pack because the sheets were cut and inserted in order. I still remember being excited to see a Duckworth card because that meant Jordan was next in the pack back in like 1989.
I thought people knew this? Never buy lose japanese packs off ebay unless you are collecting artsets and not going to open them
This really helped a lot man, thanks! Know I can be more careful when buying singles.
It really sux that people open and sell the packs that there's no hits in. Me and my daughter can't afford a full booster box and we buy loose packs instead makes sense now that we pull really bad cards 🙄
I am sorry for you man...I know how you feel I bought a bunch of singular packs and they were all duds... :(
Now that we know certain boxes have sr and certain boxes don’t I wonder if people are weighing boxes to se which ones have a slight heavier difference.
I think that wouldn't work. I think overall the weight of the box wouldn't change very much by such slight differences
The english cards usually have different weighted code cards to make the weights similar, since I didn't see code cards that could be a reason for the weight differences we see
I guess a justified use for weighing packs could be for youtubers to sort of stage their videos in an entertaining manner if that makes sense
I saw some info about this a while ago with Magic cards. At least with Magic, I believe once box patterns had been mapped, those using the system would open a couple of 'reference' packs in order to find out where on the map they were, and once they had established their position they could figure out which of the rest were the high value packs.
Thank you Pat for another very informal video! I also hope this brings a lot of awareness to the community so that buyers can be careful. Appreciate you Pat and keep up the great work!
Hi
Love the feeling of opening packs
same but now im obsessed
Evolving skies are somewhat mapped energy wise. So if you do an energy break the same energies will appear every box on each side in the same place.
I appreciate all that you do for the hobby I just recently got into it for my grandson I’m also here in Florida so grateful for all the Info you’ve been giving me keep up the great work
That speed up sound of opening a pack is so satisfying
Chiming in late, but I opened 3x boxes of Korean 151 set, 1st box I didn't pay attention, but 2nd and 3rd box were very obviously mapped exactly same. I noticed weird pattern already with 2nd box, and then I opened 3rd box exactly the way so that I would open the SR pack as final one of the set, and it was exactly as I assumed it would be. Obviously I won't say how it was mapped but it was mapped.
Another thing scammers do is open packs from box until they hit the SR and then rest of the packs are set aside and sold as loose packs. Rule of averages says that most of the time they hit SR middle of the way so they can still sell half of the packs as loose packs with no SR. This is why Japanese and Korean packs should only be bought in sealed boxes and never loose packs. Good thing is sealed boxes are much cheaper than English counterpart and you're additionally guaranteed some hits in each box (but also limited number of good hits).
There use to be a card shop near me that would weigh packs. They'd opened the packs and sell the cards and keep the lighter packs in the box for sale. They'd also knowing buy stolen cards to. It got out that one of their employees was stealing from kids and selling the cards to the shop and they knew he was doing it. So they shut down to try to avoid being sued.
Thank u for spreading this knowledge; u have been a huge boost to the pokecommunity here on TH-cam! 💪
Excellent video. Heavy packs clearly had 100% hits. Light packs were 0% hits. I'd stay completely clear of any single packs not sold by a reputable store from japan sets with 5 cards in the pack. Please, for your safety and wallet.
unlike other youtubers who just mention what to collect for best investment or how much money made out of selling cards. you are so great to mention the dark side of the hobby. keep up the great job!
Great idea! You should do it with all the sets. 😁
honestly putting code cards in the packs at random would probably stop this whole weighing thing all together but im new to the pack opening scene so ther might be a reason they dont do that i have no idea
Wouldn’t you want a large sample size to really test the theory of mappable packs? MTG has a history of mappable boxes in various sets and sometimes the mapping is pretty complex and has multiple variables
Pat while modern era English cards are not able to be weighed efficiently, the recent reprint of DAA and VIV for various collection boxes have the code cards rushed and not properly filtered. That means that you can get a UR in green code packs and a regular rare in white code packs. This is not a for sure way of weighing them completely but, allows for about 1/3 URs to weighed out because the heavier green code is in some of the UR packs and the lighter white codes being in some regular rare packs.
Yeah I've seen that in some of the Chilling Reign packs - green code cards, but an ultra still inside. Not sure what to make of that on the Pokemon company's side of things.
I can tell you for a fact that even today, big sellers will go through and weigh out for personal and sell off the rest. Could be a reason why blisters seem to have more hits? I swear the ones I've been getting from best buy lately are ALL dud packs which caused me to wonder as statistically that shouldn't happen if your opening enough cards
Same, someone probably weighing all of them before stocking
6:50 "this is a hot one!"
*says to a child*
I'm taking a guess in that the way scammers weigh packs is That the "good cards, aka the Holos, Vmax" ect weight slightly more than the regular cards. If that is the case, is it not possible to add something to the regular cards that would either make them weigh the same as a holo, or add in a throw off card that weighs more than the holo that can be in every pack that would throw off the scale
The reason there are different code cards is because they each weight differently, throwing off the scales
Amazing video! I always buy sealed boxes never singles but I know people that buy singles and I’m going to share your video with them. Keep them coming!
You know you can just shine a flashlight on the pack to see whats inside. All SR/UR/HR cards are on the fourth slot. You should try it. the packs are see-through for this set.
I would love to see the packs all weighed and ordered from heaviest to lightest, to see if there is a specific weight that you could say that anything lighter is a dud and anything heavier is a hit. Primarily as a frame of reference for people buying single packs. Because if I bought 10 packs, it would be hard for me to know what is heavy and what is light for each individual pack.
I am very sure that Japanese packs can be weighed, but there is also a way to find hits in Japanese packs without weighing them.
Since Japanese packs are 5-cards packs, it is actually possible to rub the packs with your thumb and other fingers and tell the difference between hits and non-hits. Since V-cards, VMAX, and Secret rares all have a different texture on the surface of the card, it feels different when the surfaces of the cards are rubbed against each other. Of course this will damage the card, but why would scammers care that?
I have been collecting for 6mths and already confirmed that weighing packs can easily predict the hits . Already only buy sealed sets and etb boxes . I reckon booster boxes will contain a lot of duplicate cards as they must print batches of certain ones . probably a store could get a delivery from the same suppliers and multiple boxes would feature duplicate good cards . buying from different stores should mix the hits as each store would have taken delivery at different dates and should then have been created at a different time and hopefully include a different selection of hits .
Thanks for letting us know about this issue.
Some people used to take scales to the walmarts and targets.
You can use pipeline metal detectors on the Japanese packs and those that the detector reacts to, are usually the ones with the rares or higher.
As someone who opens for myself and breaks Japanese Booster boxes all of the time. (100+ Shiny star V) (dozens of each of the last couple of sets like Eevee heroes) There is definitely no mapping of boxes I get Secret Rares in all sorts of places within the box and the hit range is always very different, (in placement). Japanese packs are very very weighable as you confirmed SR and Vmax are easily heavier cards and can easily be determined so only buy loose packs from trusted sellers. Great Video as always Pat :D
How Konami fixed the pack weigh in is by putting a hollow in every pack
u can just keep checking all packs
for hit by the extra weight
I'm never buying singles of Japanese pokemon. Local hobby shop had a bunch of different Japanese booster boxes selling single packs. I've heard rumors about weighing and I was too nervous to buy any. After seeing this I'm glad I didn't. It's hard to trust people these days. Not to mention they wanted $5 per Japanese pack.
Those aurora energy are worth more than almost every card sleeved.
Bruh the only reason why I would weight packs is when it’s vintage to decide wether or not to open it or keep it up for looks
The mapping happens in cases!
So if 1 box in a case has hit every 3rd pack lets say on one side, every box in the same case will have that pattern
Random boxes from different cases won't have the same hits pattern!
Weighing will work on Japanese packs but seems not to work on the North America side!
I watched a couple of your vids, but today you've earned my sub! Your vids deserves bigger ranges! All the best!
Thanks so much!
I have done this myself with booster boxes I open. Although it's not 100%, the lightest packs pretty much have nothing good in them. I really don't like it (been burned hard when ordering a bunch of individual booster packs from Japan), but it is cool when I open a box and can save all the cool cards for the end so the pulls just get better as I open more.
Vmax cards tend to be sorted pretty close to one another and also the stack that the Vmax containing packs also contained a full art card pack as well in 2/3 boxes you opened. Also the Holos seem to sort together as well, so if you have a lot of holos in the stack, you likely won't get a Vmax or a full art card pack in that stack.
I was in Japan a couple months ago and went to buy some card packs(no pokemon) the store clerk opened a new box and the first thing he did was to shuffle all the packs before letting me pick them.
I already knew that you can weigh packs for hits because I had 2 packs of the same set (i forget which one at moment) where one was heavier than the other, the lighter one was a standard hollow, the heabier one a hollow palkia
Thank you for the info! Can't imagine how many people have already been sold light packs...
Pat: "Let's weigh them"
*wild Pokemon Unite ad appeared
What? 😆
I’ve been noticing that some packs with hits have the same exact cards
with so few cards in the Japaneses decks it makes it much easier to weigh them.
This video is kinda old by now, but I just wanted to say that english Fusion Strike can be weighted. Atleast, when it first came out.
I often weigh packs and sell the light packs as light packs for a cheap price.
While this is a very interesting study and even though this is the newest set, I feel like it’s a bad sample to use because it’s been widely documented in the community to be riddled with factory error boxes. Boxes where you can get no SR or higher hit, or in extreme cases, 3 SR or higher hits. This is extremely uncommon in Japanese product, but no doubt caused by the very high demand for product and lack of quality control.
It's so sus
It's 30/60, 30 hits and 30 duds
It's 50/50
Honestly I’ve thought this for a while but I doubt the Pokémon company would do it but. Why not make the packaging vary in weight? Randomize the packaging to make it a bit heavier. I realize this is a lot to ask and would probably be a huge engineering undertaking but. If they made random packs packaging heavier. Say they added an extra layer of plastic or foil or whatever they use to wrap around the packs so it’s just that tiny bit heavier. Or the flap at the back. Make it thicker to make it heavier. I’m sure maybe someone will find away around this, but why not make it as hard as possible for people to predict. I doubt they’ll go through the effort though cause at the end of the day these people who flip and scalp just make them that much more money.
Once bought 10 packs online from a store, for my kids. All duds - had a feeling that they had weight them before sending them.
Since they also sell single cards, they could keep the good ones for themselves 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe it was just bad luck. But since then, we only buy sealed tins, boxes etc. Never bulk packs.
Hey I love your vids but where do you get you’re Pokémon packs?
I collect every oddish family card and I had to look at that awesome Medicham card real close to check if there was any there. I both like it and feel bad for my wallet when I spot it as a cameo in an expensive card.
Mapping is part of the game. I ordered lost abyss and managed to get a box with one full art in every booster and still only got the $2 v giratina out of one pack. It's part of the play as I understand giratina collects all pokemon and puts them in the alt dimension or something
Hi, not sure if you've already mentioned it but WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR SHIRT?
the same thing actually happened to me. i ordered 10 eevee heroes packs from someone because booster boxes for eevee heroes are expensive as we know and when i got them i was very disappointed. only came out the other side with 2-3 holos
This popped up on my feed, glad I watched it was very informative and helpful!!
Another idea you should of done with the scale was write down the the weights of each pack with yellow sticky paper to see if it made any difference if it was heavy or light that would of had a rare card in it.
If Japanese cards were worth more it would be crazy because back in the day they would put a holo in every pack and booster boxes had 60 packs.
so good when a streamer says "while i open this box i wanna tell you about" and not continue with sponsor but next video promo:D
I gotta say it...let's get more info on Chilling Reign ...why are pull rates SO abysmal? Can these be somehow mapped? Everyone who got the CR "apology" 3pack from Pokemon Center has noted ZERO pulls in the packs ...so they had to know which packs to send in these. That's the current suspicion anyway. 🤷🏼♀️
Someone claimed on Internet that they were using a very precise scale to find hollow packs. He said he was raiding all local markets with his friends and cherry pick those packs. I always wondered if it was be true or just an urban legend.
Definitely good to know. With Rayquaza being my favorite pokemon, I've been thinking of buying some Blue Sky Stream. I've never been into japanese cards so it'll definitely save me some money not getting scammed. Love your vids. Keep it up!
They should add blank cards to the packs without so they will weigh around the same as the good packs
The first video I saw of you wasn’t Pokémon related so I had know idea you were a Pokémon channel
I like the new Snom Skateboard
Thanks!
I believe it I haven't had a hyper rare that wasn't at the bottom in any of the sword and shield boxes
Thank you very much for going thru that experience for us, it shines light on a huge issue and therefore we'll have to rely on purchasing from more honest sources going forward.
The amount of effort Pat dedicates to this channel is amazing, so inspiring! Proud member of DPM
I might have just gotten lucky, but one time I opened a Japanese sun and moon from amazon and got a rainbow rare blastoise and piplup