How to SAFELY Transfer Propane from 20# Tank | Refill ANY SIZE
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- Discussing the method i use to transfer LP or Liquid propane between steel cylinders of any size.
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Chilling it is not a myth it makes it faster
Good video informational Been refilling my little tanks now few years. That’s what I was telling my dad to use my hose and it would be better. Ur tank upside down on bench and little tank on floor. Thanks stay safe
Thanks for watching!
I'm sorry but you have no idea what you are doing. Warm the tank you want to drain then invert it so you are draining out liquid propane not gas.If the pressures equalizes open the purge valve on the tank being filled and the tank your draining will push more propane through till its empty. This should only take about five min. Its just physics.
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Exactly. You should barely be releasing gas to atmosphere. Keep the liquid warm and the receiver tank cool. If you are transferring from a large tank chill the small receiver tank...
You want to transfer liquid. Opening the vent is a cheat. The goal is to barely release gas if done properly (including the hose). You paid for that gas, don't blow it all out into the air. That's like pouring gas without a funnel and trying to get max fill.
Can be convenient for a small 1 pound propane torch bottle. But for 20lbs, that is another story... The small purge valve is the key! Thanks!
Yes when filling with liquid propane that purge screw is your best friend. Thanks for watching!
Great looking vise !! 😮
since the TARE weight was known,,,weighing the poundage of contents is feature of the scale. no brainer! Thanks for the video.
You bet!
There is a pressure relief valve on the 20 pound tank that you use with a flat screwdriver to do the same thing you did with the little bottle let the air out and the gas in You just do the same thing flip the one bottle over and put the other 1 on the floor and open the pressure relief valve with a screwdriver when the white liquid propane comes out it is full tighten it down and shut it off.
You are exactly right !
The dude who posted the video argued with someone that you'll lose liquid propane lmfao. Dudes.... not smart lmao
Interesting John! Now, let’s get working on the ‘Vette!!!
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Yes i agree they are in the works. Researching / Picking out the right cam takes alot of patience. Most likely it will be a Brain Tooley Racing stage 3 or 4. Thanks for watching!
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@Titus Tyson i watch on FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
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2min video stretched out to 2 hours
what it's name propane transfer or what?
for those asking how to complete the hose, the 1# to 20# adapter fits on the end of the hose to give you 2 20# ends :) The link to the hose is for only the hose, but just buy a 1#-20# adapter and you're good to go!
I am glad you vented the 1# bottle while filling. So many people try to remove it from the 20# tank and vent it then reattach it. All they are accomplishing is venting propane and not actually getting any more fill. You did it right.
Thanks for watching!
attach when you're not busy.... let that 1lb bottle sit over night. no need to bleed any air.
as long as you're venting it and
@@JohnFrancoNHwhat's the purpose of transferring from one tank to the other when you can use the same tank wherever you use the other one at do you just like to play with butane
And somebody was right you have
I do something similar to dump 40 pound cylinders into my 200 pound tank. Cool the receiving tank and crack the bleeder, invert the donor tank and warm it. Important where home delivery is 2x cost at gas station...
Thank you for your comment! My RV is set up in a great fixed location but I can't get delivery. My plan is to stop using the two 40lb tanks connected to my RV system and use those tanks to fill my tank that's installed on the motorhome frame. I now have the proper method in mind.
Your comment confirmed that his 20 to 20 tank transfer method wasn't correct.
Hello, I'd like to hear a little more on your technique. How do you invert the 40lb, I was thinking of adapting an inversion table but I wouldn't have the height, unless I put it on a stand. how do you cool your receiving tank?
well, you wouldn't catch me dead doing this experiment that close to my corvette! but still cool video, thanks.
This was excellent and you do it correctly. Do the chill method then you don’t have to mess at all with the OP valve. Messing with that OP valve just brings all sorts of other issues that you can eliminate completely and still get a 70 to 80% with the chill method on one or two attempts. I love that scale you have very nice. Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching!
Not quite sure why on the small tank he turned the supply tank over to get liquid instead of gas, but on the 20 to 20 tank, he left the supply tank upright supplying gas only. Duh,
You have a like for the hose, but what about the other little adapter? Thx again
When you fill the 20 lb tank leave the top bottle upside down like filling the small green one pounder the bottom 20 pound tank has a screw in its valve that you open until the propane starts coming out or leeching turn the screw in the tank valve off and you will have the other top tank drained ! Real easy process !
How long does that usually take?
That's what i was wondering too. Any isnt he pulling liquid by upside down tank
Now doing the 20 pound to the 20 pound it's good to have one of those tanks painted black on the top half to absorb heat and the other 1 run a the other 1 run a hose of cool water over it as it's going will help it increase the Efficiency and get it done much quicker
good video and safety tips. thanks.... one question: why don't you tip source tank upside down with two 20# tanks, as you did for the 1# tank?
Cuz he doesn't know wtf he's doing. Flip the donor tank and just like the little bottle crack the relief valve and it'll fill with liquid and displace the air. Idk wtf he's doing heating stuff up this is dumb af
Thank you!
Needed that! 🙂👍
Great - Exact info / demo. EXCELLENT , Thank You ! I will use this method at my survival tipi camp /cabin , W. Colorado. ( I would suggest wearing safety goggles.) Mtn Mel, 59-82 Ret USN SERE / VN.
Seems to me that as opposed to showing people how to do it you were learning how to do it in front of us 😊
Thank you
When transferring to a 1 lb cylinder I always put it in the freezer. The colder the better the transfer. Then when it stops back it goes again in the freezer for at least 20 minutes. Usually get it full on the second round.
That works too. But more time consuming. Thanks for watching!
I live in a RV with a tank built in. since I never move the RV and I use a park bottle setup.
i have always wanted to store some propane in my RV tank just in case my park bottle runs out.
i am going to try to transfer some from my portable bottle to my RV tank bottle.
Thank you for the video, but you didn’t provide all of the equipment that you used. How do you get the double ended hose that fits a 20 pound tank on both sides? How do you get the gauge attached to the brass side of the hose? They both have threads.
What does it mean when no hissing sound during the transfer, yes the 1 pound take is empty. Thanks for your time
Looking for the right size Schrader Valve removal tool to get the valve loosened in a 1 lb tank. The one I got from Amazon doesn't reach down in far enough. Any ideas?
What about using a 20lb one into a massive rv tank?
Maybe open the vent on the emptry 20 lb like on the 1 lb to transfer without heat ????? thx for sharing
20# and similar (30, 40,...100 etc)have their tare weight stamped on them on the collar near the valve. You will also find the hydrostatic test date stamped there as well. If I remember correctly a tank is good for 10 years from original hydro test, then 5 years after each recertification and it can be recertified a maximum of 2 times for a total tank lifetime of 20 years.
Great info. Thank you!
I bought the hose in your link but I want to go 100lb full tank to 20 lb should be same as your 20lb to 20lb. What do you use for adapter to convert 1lb to 20? Thanks tried 3 stores today no luck.
Need to open bleeder valve on the tank being filled
ty for the post…
wondering why not just elevate the hot and put the receiving end in a cold bath to start ( or as u found out)
also it looked like your downhill had a belly in it as the video progressed
thx again
Do you need another fitting for a 20 to 20-pound transfer that is listed above? The fitting displayed is for a 20 to the 1-pound tank.
I bought this link for hose and I want 20 to 20, I haven't figured out how to connect like his video, 😢
does 1 lb tank have to be empty before I can refill it? I put an adapter on a 15 pound tank and screwed the 1lb mp tank on and nothing happen. when I weighed the mp tank it should 1.125 which did not change.
If you inverted the doner tank and then warmed the head space it would force the liquid propane to the receiver tank without relying on condensing with cold water.
Perfect 👌
How long does this method take to fill a 5lb tank?
My question is how do I use a forklift style propane tank it's got the liquid in it how do I use that to fill up my barbecue tanks
I'm trying to do an ASAP transfer or backup to my main 120 gallon tank ..I just checked the big tank and saw it was down to 5% ! I cannot get it filled for a week! I was told if it runs out, the propane company will have charge extra to purge and do leak tests etc before they can fill it. The only thing using gas is the pilot burner on my fireplace which is a pain in the butt to get relit so I want keep it going. I have a 30# tank that is full. I want to connect it to the bigger tank so it will continue supply gas to the pilot burner on my fireplace. Will there be any issues connecting the 2 tanks together thus adding the extra amount of propane to the system to keep it from running out before next week's delivery?
You should have shown purging the air out of the 1 lb tank for those unfamiliar with the process.
WHy do you not turn the source tank upside down for the 20 lb refill?
Good video but being a refrigeration tech. I would have made one thing clear that might get by people. There is always a temp. to pressure relationship. The higher the temp. the higher the corresponding pressure which you get, but regular folks may not.
Great point. Thanks for watching!
Next time put the tank your filling in a ice bath and flip the other one upside-down and the purge screwed helps alot
Yes the ice bath would help speed up the transfer, i just didnt have another bin laying around at the time of the video. The purge screw only works when pump in with true liquid propane, like at a refill station. Otherwise you will loose propane. The method shown works best with the screw closed. Allowing the gas to condense fully into a liquid. Thanks for watching!
@@JohnFrancoNH that's why you flip it like the little one I been filling a 100lb with ones I find off the side of the road
@@JohnFrancoNH That is not true !
Be sure the 1# cylinder is clean and free of rust, dirt, etc. Do NOT use Vaseline or any other lube to seal the connection as we do in plumbing projects oftentimes as if the cylinder gets warm enough to soften the lube then it can plug the orfice and lines to, as in my case, a Coleman lantern. Now I need to get it cleaned and have failed to discover the solvent that would work for me. Any suggestions ?
Also I need to fill #20 tanks from my 100# tank and cannot invert the larger tank as I'm not strong enough to manage it anymore. Is it possible to fill with the large ones standing up, maybe till it's partly/mostly emptied and I can handle it...?
They make a little Coleman red scale now that you put around the top and let it hang kind of like a fish scale And it's best to put those little green guys in the fridge or the freezer you're in the big boy out in the sun and they don't really just go much quicker And then I have 2 pieces that I use because you can just use the one little brass piece that has just the correct ends in about 4" long but I adapted that onto that onto the pressure gauge 1 so it's 2 pieces to make a dump to make a double redundancy safety so I got the gauge showing how fluid is and the scale to weigh it
Hardly any propane comes put of my big tank weather up right or upside down. It doesn’t even make that hissing noise when the little tank is connected. Think I have a bad adapter ?
you are transferring gas not a liquid. check all your connections
U can transfer the whole bottle by opening the bleeder valve
Question for the experts that may know, What about if you use a refrigerator vacuum and vacuum the empty bottle then turn the full bottle upside down and connect them wouldn't that be effective also? 😅
Now I'm going to go ahead... Repeat. Lol.
On the 20 pounder, you turned the source tank upside down. Therefore, the safety valve shut off. You need to try a hundred pound tank on its side into the 20
It would have been a lot quicker if you put the empty gas bottle, then connect to the full bottle and turn it upside down, the liquid will run into the empty bottle until you have enough in it.
Would you like to test propane refill hose with adapter ?
Good to know, especially for the small tanks but I think I'll just take my 40 lb. tanks to the refill station and get my neighbor to help me get them off the truck.
Where did you get the hose that connects two 20# tanks ?
The link doesn't work
Fixed. Thanks for the feedback
If you just connect a full 100lb cylinder to an empty 20lb, how full will the 20lb get without doing anything to it?
dont know i have never tryed, but something tells me it will not get full at all unless theres a large temp differential.
@@JohnFrancoNH As I have seen there are usually a couple connections on a stationary propane tank. One Gas and the Other liquid. If you use the liquid, bleed the 20 lb you should actually be able to over fill.
at 12 min I'd say you have to turn the source bottle upside down in order to transfer liquid a lot faster!
I'm an older woman that needs very simple steps showing me the exact item I need to buy and where I can get it. Need the exact name if I'm getting It from my Amazon.
I am trying to pull propane from my two hundred and fifty gallon tank to fill up my twenty gallon tank PLEASE HELP
Why not just flip the mother tank and hit the purge screw on the receiver?
Wont work.Thanks for watching!
Needs to be a well ventilated area ie. outside 😮
I hate I hate it when guys say things that are incorrect saying the chilling method is debunked you bumped it doesn't have to be chilled to work but it goes much faster if you chill if you chill it and on top of that it goes much faster if you chill the green tanks and warm the big tank just by placing it in the sun it takes about 45 seconds to a minute to fill up a tank completely
Outstanding job thank you
Thanks for watching!
The easy way to transfer LP between tanks is to heat up the source tank with a propane heater. Heat the source tank until the internal pressure is 250 PSI. Then turn the source tank upside down, connect the empty tank, and open the valves. The higher pressure in the source tank will force the liquefied propane straight into the tank your trying to fill. A 20lb tank at normal outdoor temperatures will be 100-150PSI, with the source tank at 250 the transfer happens quickly.
You can buy fittings to put a pressure gauge on the end of a POL fitting, just make sure any fittings you buy are rated for 600PSI or better. The source tank should be constantly monitored during heating. The internal pressure should not exceed the pressure marked on the safety relief valve, it is often 375PSI but can be a lower.
Why not flip the tank upsidedown to drain into the tank you are filling with the hose connected between two tanks?
try it, it wont work
Why can't you transfer the liquid propane by turning the tank upside down?
Gravity it self does not supply enough pressure to fill another 20 lbs tank.
@@JohnFrancoNH false. I do it with mine all the time.
ok this maybe stupid, but why you put 2lbs in a 1lbs=16oz green tank i dont understand?
He didn't. The empty tank weighed 1 pound. He added 1 pound of propane.
The 1lb propane cylinders are weighed at 850 grams (1.86lb) from the factory, so filling to 2lb is actually overfilled. Not recommended to do this, because the law states propane cylinders must not be filled to more than 80% of their capacity to allow for thermal expansion. Not following this rule could mean the cylinder will burst, because liquid propane (like any liquid) cannot be compressed.
Where do I find that transfer hose?
Link in below video. Thanks for watching!
@@JohnFrancoNH that link does not work!! Please check it
@@JohnFrancoNH the link seems to be broken. Do you have another one? I've tried google with no luck really
This is a prime example of you tube smart.
I’m not sure if this is funny or frustrating.
A lot of these comments prove this too.
Please valves need to be opened all the way to seal the valve, they seal open all the way, all the way closed open the bleeder valve on the tank being filled
NEVER DO THAT IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE, OUTSIDE ONLY IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA!!!
wrong just put your doner tank valve down higher than your recepter tank it will run like water we used to transfer 47kg into my range rover tank took 4 minits
Is the physics out of the equation on this 20# tank to another 20# tank? Asking for a friend.
I'm pretty cheap so I get it, but if you have a FLIR and a Corvette, this is not making sense.
Holy fook dude, first you quote yourself (bad sign). Then you only get 1/2 tank on your second try. You should pull this video down as you are obviously not an expert.
Who else was screaming to flip the tank and open the purge valve.
Man is it hard to watch people that don't know what they're doing, didn't do any research and are showing other people how to do it.
Don't you want to first purge the gas out of the 1 pound
open the bleeder valve...
Great video explaining the worst possible way to fill a propane tank. Turn the donor upside down and you can drift fill any tank.
Then make a video of your own if im doing it incorrect. The method you describe requires you to open the bleeder screw which means you will lose propane. Think about that. I would like to see your method fill it to 100%. LOL Probably NOT going to happen.
Flipping the donor tank would definitely be a trick on a 500lb tank...
@@Bush63Master is the tank in the video 500lbs? It isnt.
@@JohnFrancoNH this shows how unfamiliar you are with the topic. With drift filling you dont open the bleeder screw.
Whatever dude i filled the tank didnt i? It still works dont get bent out of shape because im using a different method that has the same exact end result.
If you finally figured out how to successfully transfer with the one pound tank why would you think the physics would change with the transfer amount? Especially when you don't keep the supply tank upside down to push the liquid out instead of the gas? Just like venting on plumbing, air make up with heating and cooling, ect. No matter if it's a thunb over a straw or opening two windows in your house for cross ventilation. How much heating and cooling do you think they do at the local hardware store 🤔 smh.
Not sure what surprises me more. The fact that the second half of this video was published or the comments from the sheeple gallery 😆😁🤣
I was wondering why he wasn't inverting the feeding tank to transfer the LPG rather than the gas form off the top portion of the tank.
I believe that his method is incorrect.
@@edwardlmills it works but consumes a lot of time, effort, and resources (heated water and cooled water). ..
@@edwardlmills newer 20lb tanks have a opd valve that wont let liquid out when inverted, so most of the time you need to do a vapor transfer as shown, if you have an old tank you can still flip it for liquid.
120 degrees???....in celsius this is boiling water.
What is a #20 omg this is going to be a nightmare 😮
Put 20# tank in sun and 1# tank in freezer and tank will fill fast.
Electric blower in an Ex environment.....
Great...
your moving the camra tomuch
My bad. Thanks for watching!
You should put the 1lb tank in the refrigerator for two hours before you refill.
That method is for the birds & it takes too long. I can fill it quickly and safely. Thanks for watching!
I worked for a propane company and never did we put bottles in hot water this is hilarious to me you do not need to change the temperature just the pressure needs somewhere to go It has nothing to do with the heat
How do you folks do it at the propane shop?
@Oahu FamilyFun open the pressure relief valve, fill the tank till white gas starts coming out, close the valve.
@@shaunsmuder1637 were you pumping the lpg into the empty tank or did you transfer the 20# to an empty 20# using the first tank flipped upside down method?
@Oahu FamilyFun why would you fill a 20lb from a 20lb? No we fill empty tanks from big bulk tanks but it's all relevant, lpg is a gas under pressure, temperature has nothing to do with it.
@@shaunsmuder1637 I was wondering in case there was a pin hole leak in a tank and it needed to be transferred to another. Thanks.
Completely clueless on how its done and making a video on trying to do it. Real smart.
The trick to transferring is the full bottle upside down and the receiving bottle upright.
The way he did the 20lb to 20lb tanks is wrong.
No... No.. no... 20 to 20 is not done with the source right side up.... Upside down it will transfer LIQUID... FAR FAR FAR faster. I use a splitter on the receiving 100 lb tank.(splitter placed for that purpose) connect and turn on the source.. and leave it. No need to even heat or cool anything if you don't mind it taking awhile.
My god man, you, no need to turn the tank upside down... What are you teaching?
You screwed up transferring the 2 20 pound tanks the tank in the hot water should ofnbeen upside down
NO because you want to transfer it as a gas then deposit it in the other tank as a liquid as it cools.
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You did it wrong.
Really? how come it works just fine for me...
You did do it wrong. Evaporating and condensing takes forever and youd need to continuously cool the receptacle. Turn the donor upside down and drift fill it.
@@vacamike You are 100% correct .
the absolute best way To transfer from one 20 gallon tank to another Is by first Wrapping the shipping tank in black with a black trash bag , inexpensive and efficient, Elevate At least twice the height of the tank on the receiving end place the receiving tank in the receiving tank in a container with ice Make sure the receiving tank is open Is before opening the shipping tank, Open the shipping tank slowly until it is completely open Let it flow until it's empty. If the receiving tank still is not full it's not full rinse and repeat shipping tank instructions If you're unsure how to determine the level of your receiving tank you can put hot water on it once it runs off you will see A-line form for just a moment or you can also feel because because the warm water will keep I'll keep the empty portion of the tank warmed to the touch but the propane filled portion will feel cool to the touch go to the touch relative to the other If you have a scale that is obviously more efficient and precise
Although it is not illegal to refill those non DOT 1 lb tanks, it is absolutely illegal to put in your vehicle and transport after you refill them.
(B) For cylinders manufactured on or after October 1, 1996: “Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).”
wow
Your commercial was too long.
zero control of that...thats all the youtube algorithm
You move too much the camera !!! It makes me dizzy !!! Put the camera in one place and bring the things to the camera !!! Or don't move the camera too much !!!
This video doesn't make a lot of sense
OMG get to the point😡
makes me want to cry how prehistoric this video is, sorry man, nice effort but many much better videos out there in you tube land... yikes...
BTW, why would you want to transfer from twenty to twenty???
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