Hellcat Stage Kits are Finally Here! This is How it Works!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Dodge recently announced that the Hellcat Stage Kits have finally been fully carb approved and will be arriving at dealerships soon. I have important details as to which kits will be coming out and when. I also touch on exactly how they work and how much power each kit makes. Finally, a way to increase your power and keep your factory warranty. What do you think about the Hellcat Stage kits?
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Talked with my local Dodge parts dealer today. He told me the pre-stage/stage 2 kit for my 22 Super Stock is on the way. Hope to schedule the install later this week.
Let me know..I have a demon.
I agree I need to find a broker for my SuperStock
I was wondering if the redeye kits worked for the ss’ but I’m gonna hold off til tht stage 3 comes out for them.
Pre-Stage/Stage 2 kits have officially been installed on my 2022 Super Stock. BlueBonnet CDJR has done 5 installs in the past week. On the list for Stage 3 kit if/when available.
@@keithmcnease4297 have you drove it yet?
Please when direct connection does have the kits for our 392 post a new video letting everyone know and what will the HP be ,thanks.
Great job X. Would love to see Dodge put out stage kits for the 5.7 since they take mods so well. And there are a lot more of them on the roads
Excited to see what they come out with for the 392 and would like to hear your predictions on what the stages or gonna be for 392 think that would be an interesting video for all the 392 and 1320 guys !!
We get nothing 💯
That would be messed up
If they give us a stage kit push up to 580 hp that would be perfect and I’m ready for it
Sadly it's going to be a while. And maybe boost us to 500hp even. Which to me is fine
It’s there. Check DC performance. I think stage 2 kits get you 600whp.
I’m interested in the 392 stage kits…hopefully they materialize.
Yup, me too. If not I will probably go with Southwest Speed.
Can't see them offering much.
Stage 1 - Mopar cold air intake and catback exhaust.
Stage 2 - above plus 180° thermostat with 93 octane tune and transmission tune.
Stage 3 - camshaft, ported intake manifold? I doubt it
@T/A TUDE since they partnered with ARH I'm hoping a custom tune and headers will be part of the stage kits
@@brewaire doubt the stage 3 lmao dodge isn't that cool
@@FLYxxBOY that would be a dream come true
I’d rather spend the extra money for a Forza stage 4R upgrade, which adds 1000HP with suspension upgrades to handle the extra power which is a must.
True, that’s from Tim Kuniskis. It doesn’t seem to make sense since the engines are identical. But that is the current stance by Dodge.
1000 total...
Great info Racerx and I’m happy for the Dodge owners out there. Gotta be nice to feel some love from the manufacturer
This will last a few months then Dodge will stop selling the staged kits. They did same thing with the SRT-4 staged kits. Once Dodge stops selling the gasoline powered hellcats they will stop selling the kits.
I think dodge will continue to sell the stage kits because the platform is bigger than the srt4(badass) ....This is how they are going to please the fan base while they switch to electric....There has been talk about a stage 3 kit as well....
Wrong
I wonder if you put higher octane in the Scat would it up the power?
HA I bought a skittle from Dodge and had stage 2 with toys 😂. The IC sprayer & ECU was legit tho!
@@csanders3287shell v-power is the best
The stages are basically pulley , intake and maybe TB , you will get another extra 100 hp nothing too big
They include a reflashed ecu too.
A hundred horses can drop you up to a full second at the 1/4 mile strip
Just talked to a DC dealer WRT my 2021 Redeye about getting a pre stage and stage II kit. Will be approximately $5300 for both when factoring in labor...
I’m late but labor was supposed to be included.
Won't see them for the Durango or TrackHawk 😢They took way to long to get them out and warranty would be gone before I would even get it done. Pretty much limits the appeal to the last couple of model years and only Challengers at the moment. If you don't have warranty left it's a really tough sell given the price.
U can extend a factory warranty through dodge.
They have them for us charger boy’s, but man I wish I could afford a hellcat Durango
Hopefully, it can be retrofitted to work on my '85 Dodge Aries K
Hope the come out w kits for the scat and rt hopefully bare minimum the tuner
@9:53 why don’t they just leave California out the mix for now, and figure out a workaround for them afterwards?
The stage kit is the run of the mill diablo. I went ahead and did hp tuners....dyno checked at 845 chp. Courtesy of our friends in Virginia. Also, duel fuel pump and 1000 cc injectors and cooler thermo and plugs and pullys raising smush to 14.5 lbs. MY first run I had to fish out my nuts from my pelvis.
Hopefully us 392 boys get blessed. I’ll take a little bump to 500hp and I’m golden
This is a smart move from Dodge. It adds value to the purchase of applicable vehicles. I mean, who doesn't want more power? With an applicable warranty, no less? Direct connection. Hooking people up!
I wonder if you could add direct connection to anything with the hellcat engine? (Trackhawk,Durango,TRX)
Jeez I wish I could afford to buy a red-eye! What a time to be alive.
Remember the Scat Pack stages back in 2016. They were factory direct packages for the 392 and 5.7... Dodge also claimed that those stages would not void the warranty, but my local dealer told me flat out that even with the stage kits, changing any internals on the OEM engine would result in denied warranty claims. In other words, the warranty is not voided but broken engine parts due to failed aftermarket components of any kind would not be covered under warranty repairs. Also, be fully aware that the cost of the kits do not include labor to have them installed.
Great information. Thanks bud! Now I’m not even sure if I want to do it for my hellcat Durango (if they ever make it available).
SIDENOTE: I noticed you are wearing a nice button down “Mopar Direct Connect” shirt.
Is RacerX coming back to Dodge?? Showing some brand loyalty?? 😄. Love your Dodge content. Keep it up. 👍🏻
Wonder if they'll ever offer scatpack stage kits.
Yes they are coming
@@RacerX9 Do you know what the stage kits for the scatpack consist of?
Probably stuff that doesn’t really do anything for the 392 because we all know the 392 is close to factory perfection.
@@williamrose7184 you can tune, cam, headers and get a decent amount of hp. Just expensive
Dodge hates the scatty guys for some reason....only thing that matters to them are the fkn hellcats...
give the 5.7 some love
Glad to see this! Still have to search although subscribed.
Good stuff buddy! BUT this CARB compliant stuff we should put an end to not vindicate their authority by delaying products release until "certified" Al
Racer X does it again.
Great Video! Very cool that you are a Central Florida TH-camr!
Pretty sure there are more RT/Scatpacks out there than hellcats. By like a lot! Wouldn’t it be smarter to put something out for the larger crowd?🤔
It takes more parts, money and effort to make more power out of those N/A cars compared to the supercharged models.
@@sleepy_ipl exactly! Dodge would make significantly more off of the NA crowd.
Yeah beware cause I had the stage 2 kit installed by a power broker on my challenger Redeye and a week after installing the supercharger stopped putting out any boost. Now my car has been at the dealer going on 3 weeks and they’ve been going back and forth with engineers to figure out a solution. Seems to be the pulley. 2 failed pulleys in a row and now they are going to put the stock pulley back on cause they can’t figure out the root cause of the problem. Just be prepared that you may have issues after installation.
What about the TRX?
I know this was a month ago and maybe I am too late. How many people read the instructions on the stage 2 or hellcat stage 1. It tells you that you need tools that were not automatically shipped, and hardware and gasket kits to complete the upgrade. Guess what is on backorder. So now I just got in the main gasket kits for the redeye and still waiting for the hellcat kits and various hardware. Oh and I ordered them right around the time of this video.
Oh yeah, still waiting on the tools.
Mopar or no car! Unless it’s a Chevy 😅. (Man I love those Hellcats tho)
I would not expect much from the 392 unless they come out with a stage kit that includes forged pistons.
Can you do a video on what the stage kit for the 392 would intel? Being that you said the 392 engine is already optimized from the factory
Hopefully they don’t forget about the Durango srt and hellcats
That’s what I’m saying……have you heard anything yet?
I think you should pick up that 20 redeye and start doing stuff with it for the channel!!!😎
do getting the upgrades through dodge allow it to be able to reflect on the dodge performance pages where it says POWER: xxx HP
Yup.
@@Megatron797 would definitely love to see that
It's the last year we're making v8s. Well let you get stage kits now!
Hey Paul, as usual my comments are far between. I’ve been chomping at the bit with anticipation for these stage kits to become CARB compliant. Literally the weekend before they became available I had my Hellcat serviced and answered the dealership survey experience with the comment “forget about CARB compliance, we owners could care less about CARB”. Then boom! Available, LoL.
Anyway, I have a serious question you would be the best to ask. Stage 1 for my Hellcat, or nitrous? If I invest in a second intake with a nitrous injector I can avoid voiding the warranty? Also, it’s power for the weekend warrior, not always on. Is the stock computer able to adjust for nitrous? Or, Stage 1 AND nitrous? I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to get out there to find the info we all wish we had time to get. As always, thanks and stay safe brother.
So, I have a 22 jailbreak Redeye, stock it is 807hp, what will stage two do for it?
Same 885 - there's nothing special about your jailbreak and it having an alleged 10 HP over the "normal" redeye - it's a tune change just like the 717 they started to do for normal hellcats - same engine, same internals, same everything lol..the tune that brings it to 807 would be replaced by the tune that pushes to 885 with the added components of the kit (and race gas)
What about the RAM TRX? Will it get stage kits, too?
It’s not likely based on what I see
@@RacerX9 That sucks for us TRX owners. Maybe someday 🤞🤞 Thanks for the reply.
I guess i still have a couple months before 2023 end before kit would be available hopefully. 23 hellcat jailbreak i have
I think its a great idea.. BUT.. its so damn expensive for not a huge jump in power… drive the damn thing 36,000mi stock. Then give er the beans! Pulleys,tune and such and make 1000+ HP for a much better price! I see a huge cash grab on the Direct Connection.. not a fan
The reason why they finally got these stage kits now is because they can't sell those over sticker hellcats. They need 💰 😂
They’re still selling like hot cakes, what are you talking about 😂🤡💀
Dodge makes nothing from over sticker sales... Why do people have such dumb takes?
@@obungapyramid5525 yea used
@@terricandelaria3766 did I say dodge?🤔
@@obungapyramid5525 naaa the 2023's sitting on lots ma boy
Great video! something to think about I have the 2019 challenger hellcat🤔
I doubt that the 392’s will gain much, if and when they have kits for it. Unless they’re offering a cam, head parts and headers.
Challengers get all the love from the Dodge before any other car in the lineup they always do this and it’s even worse if you’re a lower trim
@RacerX ? Anything yet on those stage kits for us scat pack 392 owners
Your wrong hellcat stage 1 tune and pulley 757 is on 93 octane. Boost is going up from 11.6 psi to 13.6 psi. Yes on the redeye going from 14.5 psi to 16.5 psi you need 100 octane. Just think about it Racer X. If a Redeye can make 797 807 hp on 93 octane fuel. At 14.5 psi. Boost. I guarantee you a hellcat at 13.6 psi boost 757 can be attained with 93 octane.
So maybe I missed this whole part but what is the install labor? I feel like that's always where they stick it to us. Otherwise almost sounds to good to be true.
I got added to the list to do the stage one on my Hellcat (717hp) and it's 2 hours of labor so the pre stage, stage one, and labor is around 2500 at my dealer
Do they give a price for install, or does that price include install
You do great work 👏
Looking at getting a Jailbreak Challenger. Would these work on it? Great price for the performance.
But for about $5k you can get 850whp
I say throw the warranty away especially if your close to that threshold hold lol or out of warranty
For 3,500 you’ll easily be at 830-850whp it’s very simple to get the hellcats to that range, now for redeye’s it’s even cheaper to get to 850whp.
@Gliding Riders Lifestyle exactly!
I think I was quoted $10k for E85 build with a full fuel system with triple pumps, pulleys, ported, blower, bigger coolant tank, fuel injectors and a bunch of other crap like transfer case diffrent ECU lol
But that's if I wanted a 1000awhp build. But lack of e85 in my area gave me cold feet lol
He did tell me if I wanted to max out pump gas I wouldn't need as much and cost would be less then half
@@leopapio683 curious as to where that quote was from?
@@mariobellomo1021 killer performance KC!
@Mario Bellomo their on TH-cam, basically wanted to do what they did to the green trackhawk to my durango hellcat
Think there will be a 18” demon kit ?
Direct Connection just told me all stage kits are released for Challengers and Chargers. Shipping out this week. Interesting you were told the Chargers are later.
They don’t have a date for being delivered to dealerships to be installed so until then it will say TBD and chargers says in June
@@BlackEyeSRT confirmed today. They are already shipping for both Challengers and Chargers. Supply chain is lower for tge Charger variant, but is expected to pick up moving forward. Straight from DC in Michigan anyway.
@@01messer1 awesome brotha I appreciate you giving us the update imma take a look into what my dealer can get thank you
@@BlackEyeSRT sounds like Chargers will be slim pickings for a minute, but should take of shortly. Catalog won't be updated until more hit the docks. Good luck and happy hunting. Just happy they are at least moving now.
are these only for hellcats or how bout scatpack 392's stage kits?
Hey RACER X - Any news on the rumor that Hellcats will be offered with a manual again for the last half of ‘23?
Hopefully the RT boys get a kit too
Racer X, love the content!! By any chance are you aware of the 2020 challenger redeye 1st to 2nd gear shifting hiccup?? I'm wondering if this tuner will eliminate this issue that seems like every 2020 and newer redeyes are having. Would love to pick your brain on this topic
Predictions on Stage Kits for all us 392 folks? Stage-1, Stage-2, maybe a Stage-3? Pre-stage kit? Recognizing that the 392 cars are pretty well optimized in bone stock form. Hopefully, a Stage-1 would deliver at a minimum at least 25-30 more HP & Torque. A Stage-2 at least 50-55 more. Stage-3 at least 75-80 more. These are modest but noticeably felt increases for these 392 cars with emissions legal and warranty retained.
Hmmmm...a Stage-4 Track-only (forged pistons, upgraded rods, upgraded cam/heads, more?)?
Would love to see rt kits like this too. I voided my warranty 🫠 so it won’t help me but still would be nice to see.
What about the superstock and demon challengers.
Hopefully there isn’t a markup on Stage Kits, once the customer list starts backing up lol
What about the Super Stock Challengers, is that a separate kit too ?
So are they gonna make stage kits for the 392
I need this tune on my SRT 392😫
Any chance the Jeep Trackhawk will get a Stage Kit?
When is stage 3 coming out for Redeye. I rather wait and get prestage and jump to stage 3.
Not sure .. that one is TBD
Great video but, the hellcat stage one isn't high octane its just adds two lbs of boost and tuning for it. this is right from the catalogue "Includes Hellephant pulley (80.5 mm/3.17-inch dia) for 2 lb increase of boost over stock and high-performance factory-tuned calibration." It doesn't mention anything about high octane, I think the Stage two will be that with just a simple unlock code for the tuner.
That’s not what the documentation that Direct Connection showed me .. I could not show the pics in the video but I had the entire revised book to include price, specs, notes to dealers etc
Racer! Question for ya, kind have settled on either a 392 charger or a dark horse mustang. My dealer I go to now can order either one but wasnt sure what would to go for. Was kind of curious as to what one you'd recommend?
i'm going tomorrow morning, yes May 1 to my dealer to install the stages. i own 2021 dodge hellcat redeye widebody. i know you need the pre stage, but do i need to get stage 1 AND 2, or go starlight to stage 2. i believe i get the pre stage and stage 2, and skip stage 1, correct? or will i miss anything by not getting stage 1? thanks in advance
Has anyone had these installed yet? I’m still waiting and no update on shipping status. What install labor quotes are dealers telling owners? Mine is saying 9 hrs to change a pully and install air filter???
I'm getting a 2022 dodge challenger widebody red-eye jailbreak so will I be able to get the stage kits for that car?
Is it a TBA date for Durango hellcat ?
You can get premium 93 octane with ethanol and premium 93 with zero ethanol. Not sure if that would make a difference in horsepower or not. I don't know about race tracks, but race fuel is kinda hard to come by at the pump.
Vp octane booste. Autozone and other similar stores. Cars run more precisely with higher octane. No knocks pulling timing.
Having the 10% ethanol is critical for horsepower and knock suppression.
What do they have for the 2023 Durango hellcat?
these cars are just WAY too expensive..who can afford them? The original muscle car Era was the TRUE muscle car Era...the idea then was to build affordable hi po cars for the masses and they did MANY... in ....HISTORIC... fashion. These new ones just wreak of money grabbing units few can afford. Its the opposite of what made the muscle car Era great and historic...the gouging in pricing of the modern muscle cars ruined what was a modern iteration of muscle cars...the original muscle car Era will always be known as the greatest...price gouging really soured the lastest batch of modern versions. The 60's-71' was and still is the Golden Era of the muscle car .
Should be picking up my 2023 1320 next week. First thing to do is remove the stock drag radials and replace with good street tires, probably all seasons type. Do you have any recommendations? Don't want to spend a boat load as this new Scat is being paid in full and funds will be a bit strained! What do you use on your Scat? Thanks.
Do you pay out of pocket or do they just add it to your overall price on vehicle ?🚗
I want to know why the stage kits don't void the factory warranty, but void the extended warranty.
Is anyone aware that slim body challenger hellcats dyno at the wheel 30+ more hp then the wide body ? I’m wondering with a stage 1 kit would that make them faster then a wide body red eye 🤔?
What is the dealership charging for the installation
Does anyone know if it will get rid of the hiccup between shifts?
If it does dodge needs to give me the pre stage kit for free
Do you need 88 more hp in one of those cars?
HOPEFULLY REDEYE STAGE 3 TBD WILL ADD E85 CONVERSION FLEX FUEL OPTION N OVER 950HP. IVE BEN ASKING 3 POWERBROKER DEALORSHIPS IN CALI FOR OVA 12MONTHS ON THESE REDEYE STAGE KITS,,,FINALLY GOT PASS CALI CARB CERTIFICATIONS🤣👍💯🎯 CANT WAIT 2 SEE WHATS REDEYE STAGE 3💯🎯🦾
Want a stage kit for my 2021 Dodge Charger R/T Plus. It has a HEMI engine V8.
Would love to just have 400 HP as 370 HP is good but just 30 more HP would be great. Speaking of gas, I can get 93 octane but it has up to 10% ethanol. I want 94 octane or better and NO ethanol added!!!!!!!!!
What about the r/t guys
Where do you get the 100 octane fuel? Does the car run on E85?
That's super dope.
Can you get a stage 2 kit and keep your LMI aftermarket intake?
Does Dodge have to install it for warranty to be void?
Well my hellcat jailbreak I ordered is not even built yet 😂
Are scatpacks gonna get any?
Yes I cover that a few minutes into the video
@@RacerX9oops, sorry I usually watch your entire videos, not sure where I missed it, rewatch again, lol
No worries
Will this work on 2023?
How about us with the hellcat redeye jailbreak charger 😢 with 807 hp do we get this pakage
Yes it’s coming
Anything for the Super Stock?
Are they gonna make them for rt ?
Dodge....2 years later(in that voice😂)
Do you think they'll offer the same E85 fuel system on the Demon 170 for the other vehicles?
*5yr/60k on the drivetrain warranty
Few owners have had problems with these direct connection stage kits missing items. For the price its not too great... like the way he K.D.A. all the time.