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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a comparison review between the Leatherman Charge Plus TTI VS Free P4 multitool. I like to review knives and fidget toys, focusing on the look, the sound and the feel. Enjoy it!
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I had both tools. Originally had the Charge TTi but gave it to my dad when the P4 came out because I thought I would like the P4 better. Big mistake. I missed the bit driver more than I thought. I also used the hook on the serrated blade quite a bit. I ended up given my P4 to my step son and bought another TTi.
Hehe I understand, I’m also a fan of the bit driver!! Often I use it with the extension, really useful
@@Fablades YES! I bought the ratchet driver when it came out and I love it.
Sold my Charge TTI big mistake just bought another one 👊🏽👊🏽
Right on!! I know that feeling eh
The saw on the Charge is no joke. I have cut 5" diameter trees by rotating around the trunk. fast and sharp, with good pull-cut and chip ejection.
Oh yea, it’s a beats!
Leatherman Free P4 v Leatherman Charge +TTI
You cannot watch any TH-cam videos on multitools without claims that the P4 or the TTI is the best everyday carry.
So, since I have both TTI + multi flat driver bit set (will call this the “set”), and the P4, I decided to carry both in leather pouches on my belt, and use them both for the same tasks.
TTI: Weighs 351g with pouch and set.
P4: Weighs 296g with pouch.
Task 1. Walking dog in open paddock. Noticed that the screw bolt in a small shackle on collar was loose.
a) TTI to rescue.
1. Step on dog lead to keep dog there.
2. Open pouch.
3. Remove TTI.
4. Use two hands to open the handles.
5. Look to see which handle had the screwdriver bit holder.
6. Use finger nail to open the (locking) bit holder.
7. Pull out flat head/phillips bit to see the FH driver on other end.
8. Note that the FH driver was too big.
9. Put this bit in pocket.
10. Extract “set” from pouch.
11. Locate small FH driver bit.
12. Extract this bit.
13. Put set into pouch
14. Insert into bit holder
15. Tighten screw. Done!
16. Remove small FH driver bit from bit holder.
17. Retrieve set from pouch.
18. Replace small FH driver in set.
19. Place set into pouch.
20. Retrieve FH/Phillips bit from pocket
21. Replace this into bit holder.
22. Two hands to unlock bit holder.
23. Fold bit holder into handle.
24. Two hands to close handles.
25. Replace TTI into pouch.
26. All done. Ready to move on.
b) P4 to rescue.
1. Hold shackle with L hand.
2. Open pouch and remove P4 (One hand only. = OHO)
3. With R hand thumb flip up 4 small tools. (OHO)
4. Select small FH driver. (OHO)
5. Open fully to lock position. (OHO)
6. Tighten screw.
7. Release lock and replace small driver. (OHO)
8. Replace P4 in pouch.
9. All done. Ready to move on.
WINNER FOR TASK 1: P4, by a huge margin.
Task 2: Removing cloth label from towel.
a) TTI to rescue
1. Open pouch, remove TTI.
2. Open handles to access tools. (Two hand operation = THO)
3. Identify handle with scissors.
4. Use thumbnail to open scissors to lock position.
5. Rotate scissors from fully open to operating position (THO)
6. Use scissors to cut label.
7. Rotate scissors to fully open position.
8. Unlock scissors, fold into handle. (THO)
9. Close handles (THO)
10. Replace TTI in pouch.
11. All done. Ready to move on.
b) P4 to rescue.
1. Open pouch, remove P4
2. Identify scissors.
3. Open scissors. (OHO)
4. Open blades with thumb.
5. Cut label
6. Fold scissors into handle (OHO)
7. Replace P4 in pouch.
8. All done. Ready to move on.
WINNER: P4, easily.
Task 3. Opening lid of tin of contact cement.
TTI went through most of the stages of Task 1 to extract the large FH driver/pry bar. This was largely a two hand operation. Steps 1-8.
P4: open pry bar (OHO), use, replace. Steps 1-5, OHO.
WINNER: P4. Easily.
So, which one would I want to carry for all those little ordinary jobs that one encounters all day long?? In other words, which one for every day carry?
ANSWER, AND EASY WINNER: P4.
Briefly, why:
• P4: one handed operation.
• All tools accessible from outside of handles, so don’t have to open the handles to get at tools.
• All tools needed are all ready to use. NO fiddling with tool set.
• No tearing at little nail hooks to open the tools. Just flip up with thumb.
• Both are Leatherman tools, so both have excellent build quality.
• P4 much lighter. See weights at top.
• TTI is 2mm narrower than P4.
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I hope that this helps you to make a decision on your everyday carry.
Awesome choice!!
On the OTHER hand....
Further thoughts on Leatherman Free P4 and Charge TTI side-by-side comparison.
(NOTE: A "multitool" = the tool itself plus any attachments, eg, driver bits, saw, file, etc that can be carried in the multitool pouch. If you have to go to your toolbox to get an attachment or accessory, then you DO NOT need a multitool. Just use the normal tools in the toolbox.)
I was visiting a friend during my above comparison of the L. Free and Charge TTI.
1. Their garage door remote control needed a new battery, which we had, but the Free had no tools to fit the tiny Phillips head screws. The Charge's micro driver did the job, as did the #0 Phillips head bit in the driver bit set.
Charge scores 1, Free, 0.
2. The front brake caliper on his bike needed adjusting. Needed 5mm hex driver. Charge TTI's bitset had 5mm hex driver. Insert in bit holder, job done. Free had no tool to fit, and recessed hex nut eluded Free's pliers.
Charge scores 1, Free 0.
3. 2cm wood chisel needed sharpening. (V hard steel, fine edge).
Charge's diamond file did the job. Free's file too coarse to put edge on chisel. Would not even mark it.
Score: Charge TTI: 1. Free: 0
Conclusion: The Free has convenient one handed opening of limited tools.
Charge has all the gear, even though you have to do a bit of fiddling to set it up for each job.
FINAL ASSESSMENT:
Overall WINNER: Leatherman Charge TTI.
Decisions, decisions!
Hey thanks for the detailed comment! Love it, and I agree with you, the Charge has the edge on the Free, but I think the people needling one hand accessibility will keep leaning towards the P series. Thanks for your contribution!!!
@@Fablades Hi Fablades. I have a collection of about 25 Leatherman, Gerber, Victorinox, SOG, and knock-off multitools. All of which points to one thing: there is no perfect multitool! The Charge TTI can do just about everything that the P4 and others can do, with the exception of the L Crunch, with its excellent locking pliers. It is all a trade-off between form and function, and function and convenience. I think the Charge + bitset has probably more function than the others, but not the convenience.
I guess I'm still waiting for someone to produce the perfect multitool! You have handled more multitools, and have far more experience than I have... What do you think? Cheers.
I agree, the perfect multi tool doesn’t exist yet..that’s why I have a few, and the important thing is to be able to choose the right tool for the right job. The Surge can be used with many bits and many saws, very versatile. The Charge being more compact and light, but at the same time almost as complete, offers a valid alternative when weight and size are important.
Love my p4. With little practice can open every tool with one hand. When first got it, broke tip on knife first week. Replaced it with no problem. It'd be nice if p4 had s30v steel blade.
Nice!! Yes indeed, imagine even S35VN 🤯
I wish Leatherman would release upgrades for the Free series. Like a tti model with an s30v or 154cm main blade + titanium handles. A cerakoted model would also be great.
Totally agree, an steel update would be cool
nice comparsion. Very detailed. After a year I didnt notice this line hook on charge TTI :D
When choosing multitool one of the most important question is - what kind of tools we need. On charge TTI the only tool i dont use is serrated blade. Love it, never leave house without it
Great video and comparison. I have been trying to decide which one to buy and this video helped me make my decision. Going with the Charge + tti.
Awesome great to hear that!!!
I've had the charge Ti (without the crimpers) for years. Can open it one handed too. I hope they update the the P4 to have less hotspots, add a Bit driver, a black dlc version.
That would be nice! Also I noticed that with time the handles are loosing their stiffness
Made this decision a few weeks ago. Decided on the Free P4 because I preferred the locking mechanism of the tools. Mods from people like Zapwizard will fill in the slight gap in tools. The knife steel made no difference to me because I almost always have a pocket knife anyway. Would sure love a factory titanium Free with a replaceable diamond file and bit driver...
Both are pretty good options, the P4 has its tricks up the sleeve for sure! 😉
@@Fablades the tanto tip on the serrated blade is definitely a super nice feature. The reality is my suburban life isn't very demanding when it comes to tools, so this basically just for fun. Can't go wrong with either option
I agree I pulled my saw blade and swapped in a diamond cut file.
The charge tti tools also lock.
You didn't mention / notice that the friction on opening the pliers of the Charge actually is also pushing a cam into place to lock the blades in the handle.
Yes absolutely!! You are right thanks for clarifying that 🙏
Outstanding review. Tried many multi tools. Always went back to the Leatherman Wave and Wave+. Nothing fit the bill for me like the Wave so I upgraded to the Charge TTI. Can't leave home without it.
Hey thanks!!! Glad you found it useful
do you like the wave+ or charge tti better?
The tool I have used the most after the pliers is the file. The Free P4’s nail file seems mostly useless. The Charge Plus TTi has some real improvements over my old Wave like opening the pliers locks the main tools in, Better knife steel and the bit drivers. The P4 has fancy opening but actually is mostly a down grade from the look of it. If you have many situations where one handed plier opening is important or need a heavier duty pliers but can’t fit a surge in your pocket, then it may be good.
Well said, thanks for watching 👊
I much prefer and purchased the Charge plus.
Good choice!!
That one blade on the surge is definitely a clip point and on the P4 looks like a drop point to me if it was a one cliff it wouldn't have any tip at all just saying great video
I have every Learherman buy the Charge tti you will be much happier with your purchase. The Free series in my opinion isnt as solid as the Wave, Charge , Supertool 300 and the champion of all the Surge
Thats just my opinion but in reality as long as you have a Leatherman on you you’re more prepared then the guy without one or the guy carrying a Gerber or SOG lmao.
Yes the Surge is also my favourite, especially when don’t mind the extra weight
I have the charge tti for.over 10 years never leave without it. Best multitool
Hey thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the content :)
If edc i use p4, camping use charge tti, at home and work i use surge, all i like, thanks review
Oh yea perfect setup 😉
@@Fablades because all no same function, cannot compare, in the world not 1item can use everything, good reviews 👍
Thanks man!!
Buy both of them ❤
I have busted the removable belt clip from the charge a bunch of times. Caught it on a seatbelt once, also caught it on some random object I was walking by. The lip at the entry point is raised a fair amount, and catches easily. It's thinner steel, and the narrow, hourglass-like top concentrates flex forces, as the thicker steel around it resists the bending. I am no engineer, but I suspect the straight steel of the Free clip would distribute the load FAR better.
Very good pint, I think that too
@@Fablades I should have also mentioned my charge is about to go back for repair, because as you predicted, I snapped the pliers. I tried to pry something with one side of the jaws, and it busted right off. Now that's not how they are intended to be used, but the force I applied was pretty low, so it was disappointing. Maybe they'll send me the Charge+ with the replaceable wire cutters, mine is one generation back.
Good too know, thanks
@@EricLS The pliers with the replaceable wire cutters are even weaker haha
Maaan, that quality of the video. Stunning. Do you mind sharing what do you shoot on? Very nice. All tools looks like Rolex items ;-) Thank you.
Lol thank you sir! I just used an iPhone 11
The p4 there is a video you can add the bit adapter
But just wanted to give my opinion on the p4, I thought it was too big so I got the p2 and love it, I do hvac and a one handed multitool is amazing
Dude thank you so much for that comment. It’s what has kept me from making my purchase. Lmao. My wife gave me a $200 gift card for leatherman and I’ve been struggling between the TTi and P4 because of the bit adapter. If I can purchase seperate, I’m sold on P4. Also though checkout the “Bolster” Costco exclusive.
Exceptional video. Very detailed. Thank you.
Hey thank you! Happy you liked it 🙏
Ruler is good for measuring bolt heads and tires tread wear
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P4 is flawed should be no friction in plier joint you should be able to hold horizontally and tool should fold shut with no assistance. TTI only flexes until contact with underside stuff, crimps come out fine. So called weakening hole,is for hooking any kind of wire that will fit in it. It does this well do to chamfered edges. 😉
Awesome thanks for the insight 🙏
I went with P4 and removed saw and installed diamond cut file . Don't like the antiquated fingernail opening method on tti.
How did you replace the saw with a diamond cut file?
So s30v knife blade vs 420hc? What's the difference?
Can I put a bit change on the p4?
420HC is a stainless steel that provides excellent rust resistance, ease of re-sharpening and medium edge retention. ... S30V is a high vanadium stainless steel with even higher edge retention, excellent corrosion resistance, and good toughness
i have p4 but now i want plus ti too :)
They are both amazing multi tools, very different design philosophy, but also similar in the packed features
@@Fablades i think ti plus is more for job or functionality and p4 is more for easy opening ergonomics.
@@Fablades i got charge plus ti. and i like it more than free p4 it holds in hand much better no sharp hot spots edges like on p4.. :)
I have a little bit of trouble getting to my pliers one handed. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong or that I'm about to break the tool, because there's a little bit of play in the handles. How can I fix it? The pinch doesn't seem to work
Oh maybe try to lube a bit the hinge? You shouldn’t be able to break the tool. The handles maybe need a break in period?
I actually like the blade shape better on the free
The more you open the charge the more free it will move, with a little oil it’ll flip like the p4 as does my super tool 300 after a year of hard use
Yes absolutely, they break in after some use, and become much easier to deploy. Brand new are pretty stiff
the p4 small tools are just garbage, like who needs 5 tools that are just small paint can openers, why didnt they put a proper metal/diamond file on it like most others.
Yea because of the internal space management due to the new design they sacrificed tool size
@@Fablades I’m an electrician by trade and looking for a multi tool to use at work but i just feel none really have what i want, i’ll probably end up getting the surge, i just wish i didn’t have to choose between the saw or file (since i’ll be keeping this in my bag or pocket not in the sheath) The smoothness of the one hand opening of the free is juicy though.
Yes I understand. At least with the Surge you have the option of switching the saw with the file 😉
@@Fablades Yeah that’s my thinking, tbh i need the file more anyway so to have a tool without a full size fill is a hard pass for me sadly. Really hope leatherman have some new releases this year, whenever that is?
Good comp review.
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
Thank you for the review. It was helpful.
Its a good review but could be better(at least for me) if you put more emphasis on comparing 'like features or tools' rather than comparing dissimilar features that share the same unit position. Maybe tool position within the unit is important to some folks - but I don't see much benefit.
Also, that small scale on the P4 would be good for measuring internal lengths - for example a blind hole depth or similar - whereas the scale on the Charge is good only for measuring external lengths.
But again, I appreciate your review. - Thanks
Hey thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the content :)
Are there anyone here carry both of these at the same time?
Good work, thanks for your effort. Great channel.
Thank you sir! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
In my opinion the charge is a horrendous waste of money!! The surge trumps it in all aspects… but that’s just me
Yea Surge gets more use, more versatile and complete, especially when weight and size are not an issue
@@Fablades well said. Love your videos too man, keep them coming
Hey thanks!! Happy you are enjoying the content 🙏 👊
I have both of these. I like the free series better than the charge titanium.
Nice! They are indeed very cool tools!!
i like my old TTI and it has the better Tools in it…
of corsa this isa very gooda video aa
Victorinox spirit the best!
Tti kicks the free into the dirt. The free is a toy the tti is a tool. Oh this is my second post lol
Yea some features of the free are very cool, but there is a price to pay, and the charge comes out a large a sturdier one
Surge and tti are the only two I will ever need, I don't see the point of the free series just like the tread both are a failure
Surge is just incredible, love it
Maybe move the mic away some, the smacking and mouth sounds really bother me. Otherwise a great review and awesome quality.
Sorry about that, not sure what happened there, usually audio is decent..glad you found it informative at least
@@Fablades Yeah, i sure did. I ended up choosing the Charge+ TTI because of your review :)
Mechanics and welders wont like it, becouse p4 magnet will atrack metal debris and its not easy to clean it. In my opinion.
Very good point! 🙏
High pressure water works great however haven't noticed anything in magnets after 6-12's with 7018,6010 in my stinger.