Malcolm McDowell (Soran) was also in last night's episode of Star Wars Rebels as Imperial Minister Veris Hydan, making one of the few actors to do BOTH a Star Trek AND a Star Wars project, an honor shared with George Takei, Brent Spiner, and Simon Pegg.
Wow, what great acting and script. Generations really is an under-appreciated Trek film. Despite it's plot holes, I still genuinely rank it in my top 3 or 4 Trek films. I feel this was the last good Trek movie, and it started to get hollywoodized and summer blockbusterish with First Contact. Picard and Co were never meant to be action stars; they were the philosophical bunch and thought their way out of problems rather than blast through them. The pacing and writing of the first 6 Trek films would have suited this crew much better. Oh by the way, Generations came out in 1994. What else came out that year, you ask? Forrest Gump, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Lion King, Legends of the Fall, Speed, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Dumb and Dumber, Interview with a Vampire, etc. Hands-down the best year in Cinema!
+Robert Baur absolutely, I love both of those films. Fight Club is an 8 for me (the ending was just a tad over silly for me to give it a 9, which is what it's closer to in my book anyways), and American Beauty is as good as Forrest Gump or Shawshank, which I both gave 10s. It's one of my favorite movies.
1982 - Star Trek II, Blade Runner, The Thing, Mad Max 2, Conan, ET, First Blood, Tron 1984 - Star Trek III, Temple of Doom, Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Terminator, 2010, Tarzan, Beverly Hills Cop
I personally think that they're both right and I live my life by Picard's quote about time.Far too many of us go through life not cherishing every moment and not respecting time,not budgeting it appropriately and accordingly and not using it wisely. I know because that was me at one point in my life so reaching that understanding of time is critically important for us as as mere mortal human beings.
Funny now to read all these comments of people waxing poetic about the passage of time and the connection they feel to the dialogue of Soren as it relates to their personal lives because some Physicists are now saying that time does not exist , it is an illusion . Good thing it took them so long to come up with that theory cuz that would have caused a rewrite of the script.
Don't forget, Soran is an El-Aurian, an extremely long-lived race. He's been obsessed with returning to the Nexus for decades, because it's the closest thing to heaven that exists.
If there was a nexus and the opportunity to join, I would be there instantly. Because time really is the worst predator there is. And I hate getting older infinitely
@@JohnDoe-de3km Well who's to say a place like that couldn't exist. Science thinks it has the universe all figured out, we haven't even explored are own oceans throughly yet. Even our own moon we seemingly gave up exploring.
I just turned 30 today. This has never seemed more relevant. It's like a train barreling toward me. I can run, but not matter what the train won't stop. There are no jump off points, no way to avoid it. Eventually, it will run me down. I'm not terribly old now. Many would say that I'm still very young, but I know what's coming. I know that in the end, everything that I've ever built and everything that I've ever loved with crumble and die. Every day is a another slow march to oblivion.
when i was younger, naive and innocent... i feared and hated our mortality... but now that i'm older, and have done many questionable things that i hope remain in the closet forever, i'm glad it all gets erased lol
"You know there was a time when i didnt know how to fly ....then the Borg came" That sent shivers down my spine *RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE THE COLLECTIVE*
"What if…we took you aboard the Enterprise, calculated a precise coordinate in space that put you a few meters in front of the oncoming nexus, and then _beamed you directly into space_ so that the nexus scooped you up before you died of suffocation or pressure?"
He was a sympathetic character even without having to see his family, because we can all relate to loss, and that we would give anything for just a few more moments with those who are lost...
I guess it depends. Soran makes immortality in the nexus sound like immortality in some kind of heaven or afterlife or like the Elysian fields from Greek mythology and Valhalla from Norse mythology and that,I can understand the appeal of and how it sounds so much better than death.Because even atheists and agnostics have said that they can understand the appeal of believing in an afterlife and the concept of something better than this world waiting for you after you die and living forever in this paradise/utopia on some other plane of existence. But if it were immortality like Connor McCleod in Highlander and living forever and having to see everyone you know,love and care about grow old and eventually die while you live on,unable to die,it almost makes immortality sound more like a curse than a gift and blessing.The movies Interview With The Vampire and The Wolverine(since Wolverine from the X-Men is practically immortal when you think about it)also presented immortality as being much more like a curse and not really being better than death at all.
After a certain point life would be an endless tiresome bore. There would be no goals, no real challenge. It only seems wonderful, the truth could be something far worse.
@@JR-ju3kj That's a nice way to wax poetic about immortality. But the truth is you may be perfectly happy living for a 1000 or 10,000 years, unfortunately we can't ask a true immortal how they feel, claiming "immortality is a curse" is realy just a way of claiming "sour grapes"...I can't have it, so it must be bad
@@mainstreetsaint36 Based on what? If Alexander the Great lived today would you say he would have no new place to conquer? If Columbus lived today would he have nothing to explore?
I’ve enjoyed more as time goes by. I’ll comment on something here that probably gets little notice, but I really like this location and the set pieces. Rocky outcropping in a desert is always a great place to shoot imo. And the whole walkway, stairs and metal grills. I don’t THINK this was an existing site, so I’m sure art department had to build this AND make it sturdy enough to hold the actors. It’s GREAT.
Tolian Soran: "You know there, was a time when I wouldn't hurt a fly. Then the Borg came, and they showed me that if there is one constant in this whole universe, it's death. Afterwards, I began to realize that it didn't really matter. We're all going to die sometime. It's just a question of how and when. You will, too, Captain. Aren't you beginning to feel time gaining on you? It's like a predator. It's stalking you. Oh, you can try and outrun it with doctors, medicines, new technologies, but in the end, time is going to hunt you down and make the kill. Jean-Luc Picard: It's our mortality that defines us, Soran. It's part of the truth of our existence. Tolian Soran: What if I told you I found a new truth? Jean-Luc Picard: Masks, being afraid, and not living your life? Tolian Soran: Time has no meaning when you wear masks, are afraid, and stop living your life. The predator has no teeth." Star Trek Generations 1994
If we're going to argue sci-fi nerdshit...well...basically it took the Enterprise with all its "might" to keep the ship from crumbling while the rift went across the entire deck and swept Kirk along with it. Had Kirk simply "fell out" of the ship he would've died in the vacuum of space. You need to be alive to get in. Either Sauron or Gainan explains sometime in the movie why he couldn't just take a ship in to get to the Nexus, mostly that it'll be destroyed and him killed before the transfer.
Their proximity to the Nexus itself fixes that issue. A human can survive the vacuum of space for about 10 to 15 seconds. The pressure differentials between the section Kirk was in and space could have thrown him out with enough speed to get inside the Nexus within the 10/15 second window.
Not a plothole - Kirk never got sucked out of the breach into the ribbon because the ribbon, via that surge, came to him, albeit in a very destructive way through the hull.
Not once did Picard retort that Soren, being an El Aurien, would still be alive long after a Human like Picard is dead. So stop complaining about time. That's like a 40-something Human having a mid-life crisis in front of an Ocampa!
Because the ships they were on could not indefinetly stay in the Nexus. At the start of the movie, those El-aurian ships that were caught in it's wake were tearing apart, and Soran only survived because Enterprise B beamed him out in time.
As Data said in stellar cartography: Every ship which has approached the Nexus has either been severely damaged or destroyed. Flying a ship into the Nexus, the ship would likely explode (killing the occupants) before the Nexus-effect can take place and shift the occupants into the Nexus. The Enterprise-B was lucky to escape with a hull-breach, compared to the refugee ships, which were destroyed. By changing the path of the Nexus to intersect with Viridian III, Soran hypothesized (correctly) that he would be directly exposed to the Nexus, with nothing around him to explode etc, for long enough to be shifted into it. Note how the gantry which he went to, was quite a distance from either the missile launcher or his command center's computers... And of course, once the Nexus passed, the planet itself was destroyed...
This film was panned because the everyman could not be courageous enough to grapple with these high minded concepts. I wish intelligancia hwld monopoly over this world ....Rather than knee jerk stupid people emotions
Why didn't guinan just have picard find Soran in the Nexus and tell him what she told him that he could just leave Whenever and he could have made sure to have already left his planet with his family so the borg never destroted his ship 🤔
Soran doesn't want to leave the Nexus, even if it's to save his wife and child... because he realized that even if he saved them, time would have killed them anyway, and also him... what happened changed him and his priorities, Soran is a man chasing one thing only, immortality
Many years ago, DC Comics published a retrospective on Scotty’s life, and I particularly remember one thing he said there: “When you’re younger, time drags like an eternity… “When you’re older, time flashes by, dragging you kicking and screaming towards eternity.”
If the Nexus go through the galaxy every 39 years and Soran was denied entry in 2293 and this year is 2371 then what happened in 2332? Why didn't he try to get in that year??
I think the implication is that he did through some other method and failed. Hence the line, "I've spent 80 years looking for another way...believe me this is the only one."
+Felamine They only assimilate what does not resist them. Since the El-Aurian were a highly advanced civilization, it is possible that they resist they Borg to the point, where the Collective decides that it is better to destroy them. What you can't control because it is to strong, you must destroy in order to survive.
Soran how did you get into the nexus before? In a ship? Are you seeing a pattern🤣🤣🤣 just take one of the enterprise shuttles and wait no need to blow this star up now hey,let’s go have some earl grey while we wait 😅
Takers and fakers and talkers won't tell you Teachers and preacher will just buy and sell you When no one can tempt you with heaven or hell, you'll be a Lucky man Alan Price - Oh Lucky Man, Alfie Darling. 1975. Now make my The Transporter joke Alfie Darling - not - Not Grace Darling. Said the light house keeper. Alfie Elkins.
"...there was a time when I wouldn't hurt a fly... then coronavirus came, and it showed me that if there's one constant in this universe, it's the one."
I hate this movie😡! Shatner should not take this role even the producer said Kirk character will die off screen anyways. Let them do it if they wanted to at least i wont see my favorite captain a hero died in such situation !😡😡😡 Bill should follow his peers denied to take part. Spock, McCoy and Sulu are wiser in this decision. Last i hate this StarTrek VII! Glad the box office did not turned out well😂😂😂! Evil story plot! Last. I dont like Picard the ugliest balt guy in universe! He killed Kirk in a way!!! Picard should be the DEAD one!😬
This is up there with the great monologues in film. I love the script and the acting. Patrick Stewart and Malcolm McDowell are both fantastic actors.
You cannot ignore the fact that Alexander Siddiq from DS9 sounds exactly like his uncle Malcolm.
Holy crap, I did not know those two were related. Learn something every day
@@Tubanapoleon Blew my mind as well. Then it seemed strangely obvious.
Looks like him too
I thought he sounded like Malcolm McDowell
Malcolm McDowell is an underrated actor and under used
Malcolm McDowell (Soran) was also in last night's episode of Star Wars Rebels as Imperial Minister Veris Hydan, making one of the few actors to do BOTH a Star Trek AND a Star Wars project, an honor shared with George Takei, Brent Spiner, and Simon Pegg.
I met him many years ago and he is such a pleasant man who can play the most amazing villains
You mean Filoni's failed fanfic.
I used to think Malcolm McDowell is Sting. Lmao
same😂
Me too. I also thought Jonathan Frakes was in Congo (it was really Tim Curry).
"It's our mortality that defines us Soran. It's part of the Truth of our existence"
"I like to think of time as a companion that goes with us on the journey".
+Tranquil JOE "It reminds us to cherish every moment for it will never come again"
Yeah, a companion who ages you and takes everything you love away.
@@RiaRadioFMHD773 "What we leave behind is not as important as how we lived"
@@michaelj.r457 What quote is that?
@@saberiandream316 from the ending scene between Picard and Riker.
Wow, what great acting and script. Generations really is an under-appreciated Trek film. Despite it's plot holes, I still genuinely rank it in my top 3 or 4 Trek films. I feel this was the last good Trek movie, and it started to get hollywoodized and summer blockbusterish with First Contact. Picard and Co were never meant to be action stars; they were the philosophical bunch and thought their way out of problems rather than blast through them. The pacing and writing of the first 6 Trek films would have suited this crew much better.
Oh by the way, Generations came out in 1994. What else came out that year, you ask?
Forrest Gump, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Lion King, Legends of the Fall, Speed, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Dumb and Dumber, Interview with a Vampire, etc.
Hands-down the best year in Cinema!
+farfolomew 1999 maybe a runner up American Beauty, Fight Club, The Matrix,
+Robert Baur absolutely, I love both of those films. Fight Club is an 8 for me (the ending was just a tad over silly for me to give it a 9, which is what it's closer to in my book anyways), and American Beauty is as good as Forrest Gump or Shawshank, which I both gave 10s. It's one of my favorite movies.
First Contact is great, as much as Generations.
Robert Baur Damn you’re right, that’s pretty good year too. I love all three of those as well. Hmm, let’s just give it to the 90s as a whole
1982 - Star Trek II, Blade Runner, The Thing, Mad Max 2, Conan, ET, First Blood, Tron
1984 - Star Trek III, Temple of Doom, Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Terminator, 2010, Tarzan, Beverly Hills Cop
Soran is right. Time is a predator. However I agree that Picard that time is a companion that goes with us all our lives and to cherish every moment.
I personally think that they're both right and I live my life by Picard's quote about time.Far too many of us go through life not cherishing every moment and not respecting time,not budgeting it appropriately and accordingly and not using it wisely.
I know because that was me at one point in my life so reaching that understanding of time is critically important for us as as mere mortal human beings.
Funny now to read all these comments of people waxing poetic about the passage of time and the connection they feel to the dialogue of Soren as it relates to their personal lives because some Physicists are now saying that time does not exist , it is an illusion . Good thing it took them so long to come up with that theory cuz that would have caused a rewrite of the script.
Too romantic. Things are.
I love the themes of this film!!!
Soren' s character was inspired by the spaceman in Bugs Bunny. The similarities, including the iron grates and bridges, are uncanny!
Say what you will about the movie, it was refreshing to have a villain with a motive like Soran's instead of the usual revenge plot villains.
In this case I think Picard is the villain. I agree with Soran.
@@overratedgm5713 Because blowing up an entire star system and millions of people in it to live in a fantasy world is the act of a hero, alright.
@@thelaw6267 Amen!
Don't forget, Soran is an El-Aurian, an extremely long-lived race. He's been obsessed with returning to the Nexus for decades, because it's the closest thing to heaven that exists.
He's the same race as Guinan
If there was a nexus and the opportunity to join, I would be there instantly.
Because time really is the worst predator there is. And I hate getting older infinitely
Soran is more than just an El-Aurian
he’s a mad scientist but he’s not insane
@@JohnDoe-de3km Well who's to say a place like that couldn't exist. Science thinks it has the universe all figured out, we haven't even explored are own oceans throughly yet. Even our own moon we seemingly gave up exploring.
@@denisgauthier9191 Mad, but not insane?
It is the best few minutes of the film. By far. I love the banter.
I just turned 30 today. This has never seemed more relevant. It's like a train barreling toward me. I can run, but not matter what the train won't stop. There are no jump off points, no way to avoid it. Eventually, it will run me down. I'm not terribly old now. Many would say that I'm still very young, but I know what's coming. I know that in the end, everything that I've ever built and everything that I've ever loved with crumble and die. Every day is a another slow march to oblivion.
Dude you're 30 not 50. Chill
It's our mortality that defines us, Middleton. It's part of the truth of our existence.
Ya'll need Jesus
I mean that's why it was written. Time and mortality, like Picard says, has been a truth of our existence
when i was younger, naive and innocent... i feared and hated our mortality... but now that i'm older, and have done many questionable things that i hope remain in the closet forever, i'm glad it all gets erased lol
I love Star Trek. I love this movie. I like the villain. He always plays perfect villains. (A clockwork orange, MONK, The Mentalist...)
Two great actors.
Such good actors. And this scene of the film is amazing.
Very underrated star trek movie 🎥 👌
I have to agree with Soran on this one.
"You know there was a time when i didnt know how to fly ....then the Borg came"
That sent shivers down my spine
*RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE THE COLLECTIVE*
Throughout time and history, fiction and reality, there have been no more true words spoken than those by Dr. Tolian Soran.
Holy crap, It's sting.
"What if…we took you aboard the Enterprise, calculated a precise coordinate in space that put you a few meters in front of the oncoming nexus, and then _beamed you directly into space_ so that the nexus scooped you up before you died of suffocation or pressure?"
That's like wanting to be struck by lightning by simply standing outside in a storm. It might hit you… or it might not.
@@kamdan2011 Remember the thruster suits from the first movie? Yeah.
I like soran’s attire
..and haircut
I wish they could have shown Soran's family. Maybe he would have been a sympathetic character.
He was a sympathetic character even without having to see his family, because we can all relate to loss, and that we would give anything for just a few more moments with those who are lost...
And maybe even a bit of the old "in-out-in-out".
Probably wore B'etor out on that Bird-of-Prey. After 1000 years of life, he likely forgotten more about pleasure than she'd ever know.
I agree with Doctor Soran on this immorality is better than death.
I guess it depends.
Soran makes immortality in the nexus sound like immortality in some kind of heaven or afterlife or like the Elysian fields from Greek mythology and Valhalla from Norse mythology and that,I can understand the appeal of and how it sounds so much better than death.Because even atheists and agnostics have said that they can understand the appeal of believing in an afterlife and the concept of something better than this world waiting for you after you die and living forever in this paradise/utopia on some other plane of existence.
But if it were immortality like Connor McCleod in Highlander and living forever and having to see everyone you know,love and care about grow old and eventually die while you live on,unable to die,it almost makes immortality sound more like a curse than a gift and blessing.The movies Interview With The Vampire and The Wolverine(since Wolverine from the X-Men is practically immortal when you think about it)also presented immortality as being much more like a curse and not really being better than death at all.
After a certain point life would be an endless tiresome bore. There would be no goals, no real challenge. It only seems wonderful, the truth could be something far worse.
@@JR-ju3kj That's a nice way to wax poetic about immortality. But the truth is you may be perfectly happy living for a 1000 or 10,000 years, unfortunately we can't ask a true immortal how they feel, claiming "immortality is a curse" is realy just a way of claiming "sour grapes"...I can't have it, so it must be bad
@@mainstreetsaint36 Based on what? If Alexander the Great lived today would you say he would have no new place to conquer? If Columbus lived today would he have nothing to explore?
"My world has been yet destroyed, captain. Yours too. The difference is that you enjoi that. But someday you'll understand".
*Picard:* _"Number one, send out a subspace distress message to Tank Girl! ... We have a situation!"_
Soran to Picard: Don't you deserve a future free of war, and fear, and terrible uncertainty?...of course you do.
We all do.
Picard vs Alex.
A heroic and noble gentlemen vs a vulgar and thuggish psychopath.
What a ying and yang.
Who's Alex?
@@FingerGunProductions Alex Da Large, the one character Malcolm McDowell is best remembered for.
@@ShadowSonic2 No silly that's doctor Tolian Soran
This is great acting.
Soran reminds me of the original MaCoy in City on the edge of forever , he said , need;les doctors,sutures ,oh the -------
I’ve enjoyed more as time goes by. I’ll comment on something here that probably gets little notice, but I really like this location and the set pieces. Rocky outcropping in a desert is always a great place to shoot imo. And the whole walkway, stairs and metal grills. I don’t THINK this was an existing site, so I’m sure art department had to build this AND make it sturdy enough to hold the actors. It’s GREAT.
Gummy bastard in the Nexus that can't find his dentures.
For me this was the best all around Star Trek movie. Excellent.😊
Man they used to really know how to write dialogue for Star Trek.
The original releases are so much better. The color here is too green. I love the warm colors of this sequence, prior.
In reality there is such a place, just outside the universe, time as no meaning there.
Or in another dimension altogether
Heck I don't blame him
1:48
alex vs picard epic batle
Time has no meaning there, and so neither do you.
And? Meaning is important?
This is really a nice scene
Tolian Soran: "You know there, was a time when I wouldn't hurt a fly. Then the Borg came, and they showed me that if there is one constant in this whole universe, it's death. Afterwards, I began to realize that it didn't really matter. We're all going to die sometime. It's just a question of how and when. You will, too, Captain. Aren't you beginning to feel time gaining on you? It's like a predator. It's stalking you. Oh, you can try and outrun it with doctors, medicines, new technologies, but in the end, time is going to hunt you down and make the kill.
Jean-Luc Picard: It's our mortality that defines us, Soran. It's part of the truth of our existence.
Tolian Soran: What if I told you I found a new truth?
Jean-Luc Picard: Masks, being afraid, and not living your life?
Tolian Soran: Time has no meaning when you wear masks, are afraid, and stop living your life. The predator has no teeth."
Star Trek Generations 1994
The Nexus sounds good!!
If we're going to argue sci-fi nerdshit...well...basically it took the Enterprise with all its "might" to keep the ship from crumbling while the rift went across the entire deck and swept Kirk along with it.
Had Kirk simply "fell out" of the ship he would've died in the vacuum of space. You need to be alive to get in. Either Sauron or Gainan explains sometime in the movie why he couldn't just take a ship in to get to the Nexus, mostly that it'll be destroyed and him killed before the transfer.
Their proximity to the Nexus itself fixes that issue. A human can survive the vacuum of space for about 10 to 15 seconds. The pressure differentials between the section Kirk was in and space could have thrown him out with enough speed to get inside the Nexus within the 10/15 second window.
1:56 - People credit Morpheus from the Matrix, but he never said "What if I told you..." It was Generations which gave us this line.
This is a weak movie, but the cnversation here is one of the few postive things in it.
This is a good conversation.
_El tiempo es el fuego en el que nos quemamos todos_
Hmm if there's no other way into the Nexus then how did Kirk get their..... Oh yeh fell out of the Enterprise... Little plothole i think
Not a plothole - Kirk never got sucked out of the breach into the ribbon because the ribbon, via that surge, came to him, albeit in a very destructive way through the hull.
there was a time when i would notify
ii made T out as a centaur . | Believe; me.
Access-9/8
0:00 victimitis is desth.
Not once did Picard retort that Soren, being an El Aurien, would still be alive long after a Human like Picard is dead. So stop complaining about time. That's like a 40-something Human having a mid-life crisis in front of an Ocampa!
STALKING YOU! DOCTORS
I never got why they had to shift the path of the Nexus. Why not just fly into like before?
Because the ships they were on could not indefinetly stay in the Nexus. At the start of the movie, those El-aurian ships that were caught in it's wake were tearing apart, and Soran only survived because Enterprise B beamed him out in time.
@@MrGiselbart but the Nexus wave passes over in a few seconds, which seems to be enough to take Soran there.
As Data said in stellar cartography: Every ship which has approached the Nexus has either been severely damaged or destroyed.
Flying a ship into the Nexus, the ship would likely explode (killing the occupants) before the Nexus-effect can take place and shift the occupants into the Nexus. The Enterprise-B was lucky to escape with a hull-breach, compared to the refugee ships, which were destroyed.
By changing the path of the Nexus to intersect with Viridian III, Soran hypothesized (correctly) that he would be directly exposed to the Nexus, with nothing around him to explode etc, for long enough to be shifted into it. Note how the gantry which he went to, was quite a distance from either the missile launcher or his command center's computers... And of course, once the Nexus passed, the planet itself was destroyed...
@@TimParker-Chambers Thanks for the thoughtful response. Seems like a reasonable answer.
Wow this is....good?!
This film was panned because the everyman could not be courageous enough to grapple with these high minded concepts. I wish intelligancia hwld monopoly over this world ....Rather than knee jerk stupid people emotions
Soran...The first Thanos.
Why didn't guinan just have picard find Soran in the Nexus and tell him what she told him that he could just leave Whenever and he could have made sure to have already left his planet with his family so the borg never destroted his ship 🤔
Soran doesn't want to leave the Nexus, even if it's to save his wife and child... because he realized that even if he saved them, time would have killed them anyway, and also him... what happened changed him and his priorities, Soran is a man chasing one thing only, immortality
@@sleepyskorpion He wasn't chasing immortality, he was chasing a freedom from the pain of his loss...
2 Borgs
I was cured, alright ❗
Many years ago, DC Comics published a retrospective on Scotty’s life, and I particularly remember one thing he said there:
“When you’re younger, time drags like an eternity…
“When you’re older, time flashes by, dragging you kicking and screaming towards eternity.”
CREDITS:
TM & © Paramount (1994)
Cast: Patrick Stewart, Malcolm McDowell
Screenwriter: Brannon Braga, Ronald D. Moore
Director: David Carson
If the Nexus go through the galaxy every 39 years and Soran was denied entry in 2293 and this year is 2371 then what happened in 2332? Why didn't he try to get in that year??
I think the implication is that he did through some other method and failed. Hence the line, "I've spent 80 years looking for another way...believe me this is the only one."
Good acting on Malcolm’s part. But of all the Star Trek movies created, this ranks at the bottom for me. Right down there with the very first one.
why doesnt soren just get a holoemitter to simulate his family
Soran was wrong. He could have just flown into it with a ship. He didn't have to destroy stars if he did let me know in the comments.
The ship would have been torn to bits.
spent an embarrassing amount of my life thinking that this was sting🤦♀
Since when do the Borg destroy planets? I thought they assimilated what lived on them.
+Felamine They only assimilate what does not resist them. Since the El-Aurian were a highly advanced civilization, it is possible that they resist they Borg to the point, where the Collective decides that it is better to destroy them. What you can't control because it is to strong, you must destroy in order to survive.
Sometimes they assimilate the people and destroy the planet in the process. Like when they scooped up the colony in Best of Both Worlds.
What we can’t assimilate we will destroy-the Borg
Two unapologetically British men who sound like Americans impersonating British accents
"You will too, Captain"
Then he gets made into a replicant. Jesus Christ, what the hell happened to Star Trek?
Excessive corporatizing, lol.
Won't lie, Soren is right is right.
Suing the devil, Gangster No 1...and so on ;)
NICE TRY
mm wudve been great in dr. who
Hilarious that Picard out ran time and death by becoming a synth. Thought it's our mortality that defines us? Man Kurtzman Trek is beyond god awful.
Soran how did you get into the nexus before? In a ship? Are you seeing a pattern🤣🤣🤣 just take one of the enterprise shuttles and wait no need to blow this star up now hey,let’s go have some earl grey while we wait 😅
Yak out of sync.
NICE TRY!
B Etor
Takers and fakers and talkers won't tell you
Teachers and preacher will just buy and sell you
When no one can tempt you with heaven or hell, you'll be a Lucky man
Alan Price - Oh Lucky Man, Alfie Darling. 1975. Now make my The Transporter joke Alfie Darling - not - Not Grace Darling. Said the light house keeper. Alfie Elkins.
"...there was a time when I wouldn't hurt a fly... then coronavirus came, and it showed me that if there's one constant in this universe, it's the one."
The only good dialogue in this piece of s*** movie
I hate this movie😡!
Shatner should not take this role even the producer said Kirk character will die off screen anyways. Let them do it if they wanted to at least i wont see my favorite captain a hero died in such situation !😡😡😡
Bill should follow his peers denied to take part. Spock, McCoy and Sulu are wiser in this decision.
Last i hate this StarTrek VII!
Glad the box office did not turned out well😂😂😂!
Evil story plot!
Last. I dont like Picard the ugliest balt guy in universe! He killed Kirk in a way!!! Picard should be the DEAD one!😬
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