It’s been nonsensical but they only do this to Black Americans. I never see this happen with Haitians, Brazilians, Bajans, or any other group with any history of displacement from the slave trade. Just because all these foreign groups want to migrate over here after we made it safe for melanated people to do so with our civil rights movement do not get to strip our identity because they’re confused about their own.
That's a general American outlook on the rest of the world though, not specifically Black American one to be fair. It's a US thing not to be inquisitive about anything outside the US. That's not a Black American invention, just a general US stance.
As a Black Dutch, applaud you for engaging in this convo. Having these convos daily with my fam in America. We all black, but we all ethnically unique. Unity in diversity. ❤
😂😂St. Augustine, Florida is considered the oldest continuously inhabited city in the United States, founded in 1565 by Spanish admiral Pedro Menéndez de Avilés. SHUTUP
Corrected : Eatonville, Florida is the oldest Black-incorporated municipality in the United States, established in 1887 by 27 Black men. The town served as a symbol of freedom and autonomy for Black Floridians and other Black Southerners during the Reconstruction era
@@krazyjnva2up2down55 - Sir, you might need to shut up. St. Augustine was founded by African Moors and Spanish conquistadors. Fort Mose is older than Eatonville and is the first Black community in the United States. Please stay out of Black folks' business.
We are not African bro, we are Black Americans . FBA. Why do some people have issues with Black Americans taking pride of our homeland. A Jamaican or Haitian person never have to answer what part of Africa they come from. They can stay Jamaican or Haitian .
@@destinywilliams8597 leave them, these guys are the most racist people ever, if America should be leave for them , they’ll destroy it without building anything
I love that you have these conversations in a respectful and educated manor. It’s rewarding for a FBA to represent us in other countries. They really think we are simpletons.
@@LondonMoneyCashEnterprisehe literally has no less than 25 videos in which he asks people from the UK and they say Americans are DUMB. But carry on being obtuse.
Thank you for making the distinction between heritage and nationality/culture. This is where I think people are getting tripped up or conflicted , rather. Thinking you either embrace or admit to one OR the other, when really BOTH are simultaneously true.
@sylviasworld9397 That's only specific to this person. Genealogy results may vary very much for each Black American. Black Americans who trace their ancestry using Genealogy aren't confused about who they are.
Stop pushing the guest back and let them speak. Nice to see you interview single people who are a bit older and educated rather than giggling 16 year olds
This is by far my favorite interview. The young man was remarkably intelligent and open-minded, engaging in meaningful discussion without resorting to insults or disrespect. Even amidst disagreements, he maintained a level of respect that is increasingly rare. This is how conversations should be-focused on understanding rather than degradation. It's a shame that we often reduce ourselves to insults when respectful dialogue can achieve so much more.
Adonis needs to do a much better job of listening . It’s annoying to hear you ask a question then cut the speaker off so that you can get “your” point across. Listening is definitely an art.
@@tonyarichelle8380 Why would I need to start my own channel? Are you insinuating that I shouldn't be able to make an observation and state my opinion?
personally i’ve noticed that AA have had prejudice towards africans. name calling has been a thing africans have had to endure for instance I have Nigerian relatives who went immigrated to America we get called names I heard of all sorts of names e.g. “African booty scratcher”. when black British people hear about this who are from African descent so it’s obviously going to cause a negative view towards African-Americans.
@damilolakomolafe6634 I wish y'all would stop that bs. All kids get teased for being different. And African booty scratcher is a skin tone diss. I've never been to Africa in my life, and I was called the same name. So annoying!!!
The difference is that African Americans are descended from Akan (Ghana), Igbo (Nigeria), Ewe (Ghana/Togo), Yoruba (Nigeria), Bakongo (Congo), Wolof (Senegambia) Etc… We are not wholly separate or divorced from the subsaharan African ancestors, who are our Nth great forefathers and foremothers. And neither is our African American culture. It has very real connections, very real roots in the African cultures, in which our African Ancestors were taken from. Also, genetically, very few African Americans have significant, if any Native/indigenous American Ancestry. Having significant indigenous Native American ancestry does not apply to most of us. I really wish that we were as interested in/Obsessed with dissecting and educating ourselves on the African roots/retentions of our African American culture (and genetics), as we are with upholding this ideal of a “Black American only” identity. I’m not arguing for pan-Africanism, here. I’m arguing for better education (and self directed education).
So the lie that very few Black Americans have Native Ancestry is one that continues to propgate because of a misnomer from Skip Gates. Especially when there are Black Americans who's family has been classified and reclassified numerous times. It doesn't even make sense from a cultural anthropological purview but that is a discussion for another day. One of the BIGGEST problems with your statement is that you clearly come from a school of though that romanticizes the continent and continental connections and does not expect Black Americans to deal with the reality that Africans were selling other Africans from different tribes to Europenas for CENTURIES into chattle slavery because they did not see each other as the same people nor did any groups across the globe because RACE was not a concept and ETHNICITY was the driving factor of identity. Which means the two Africans right next to each other didn't see themselves as the same but SOMEHOW an amalgamated people who experienced HALF A MILLENIA of ethnogenesis, are thousands of miles and centuries of culture and history removed are now the same as those on the continent?? If Black Americans are not interested in morphing their identity with the slave BUYERS who's blood they have why would the slave SELLERS who's blood they also have be any different? Why are we cannonizing groups who performed forgetfulness rituals to ensure that neither our ancestors nor their ddescendants returned to avenge their betrayal? Why are we trying to infantalize the continent and lioninze it at the same time when it comes to The transAtlantic Slave trade and accountability? The expectation that Black Americans obsolve Africans and hold Euopeans accountble is absurd. The shame associated with acknowledging African participation in the slave trade, a shame that is NOT ours BTW, is what led to the Black leaders of the day like Richard Wright stopping the publishing of Zora Neal Hurston's book "BARRACCON" from seeing the light of day for 80+ years. Having a first hand account of the savagery of the Dahomey Female Slave traders from one of their living victims Cudjo Lewis made this romanticinzed narrative impossible and they were also afraind that whites would use it to obsolve themselves of their own demonic crimes against us. Noboy should be let of the hook and we need to see our history for what it actually is, The idea that Black Americans obsolve red natives who also participated in our enslavement and who's blood MANY of us do in fact carry is also absurd. Black Americans get to be BLACK AMERiCANS just like Jamaicans get to be Jamaicans, Bajans get to be Bajans and Trinis get to be Trinis. We don't pretend the Chinese and Japanese are the same and ask them to go back to their ancient origins to the San people in South Africa but in order for everybody to attach themseelves to what we;ve done this is what Black Americans hear. The problem is because Black Americans researched and explored and created academia acknowledging our ties to the continent and folks saw that as an excuse to ERASE our unique ethnic identity in OUR COUNTRY and are now uncomfortable that we are pushing back. Folks write think pieces about US because of what we have accomplished in the world despite the centuries of trauma and want us to be the ONLY group in the Diaspora that doesn't claim our country proudly. That doesn't work for Black Americans that know their legacy. A legacy EVERYBODY ELSE gets to run here and eat off of while simultaneously disrespectig it.
@@NovemberReigne okay, I'm not sure who that is... I've not seen that episode. In all fairness, 'Adonis' doesn't seem to be too fond of 'UK Blacks' on observation, and unfortunately seems to only speak to those who are young who are not interested in knowledge of self/history or general knowledge etc, as opposed to speaking to a more mature crowd who may have more wisdom on things from the previous generations, 90s, 80s and 70s etc, like 2nd & 3rd generation Windrush folk. But maybe it's created just for entertainment purposes only. No one should be unnecessarily rude to anyone re: the man in the episode you're speaking about
Bruh, the US became a country in 1776. We were already here for centuries going back to when this was just a colony. There has been a continuous Black presence in the Americas since the 1500s. Ethnogenisis is the birth of a new ethnic group and that's what happened with us. My African mix is not found in nor does it originate on the continent of Africa or in one country or from one people, my DNA proves that. I cant point to one country outside of the United states and claim it as my country of origin. We are a blend west and central African people with varying degrees of European and indigenous American mixed in. That took place HERE meaning we are FROM HERE... We created a culture that is native to the Americas. We arent a lost people we are a new people native to the Americas. My dna shows that I’m linked to black American in the Carolina and Virginia because we’ve been here a half a millennia mixing and mingling. The problem is ppl don’t think of the US as a real country, it’s somehow made up or not real and is thought of as a land of immigrants when there are ppl like Black Americans whose family history is the history of America and predate the founding of new American countries like the USA, Canada and all of the Latin American and Caribbean countries. It’s actually quite disrespectful and dismissive of our history and culture. That’s part of the reason why ppl see no issue taking from our culture and disrespecting us at the same time.
@@destinywilliams8597 What are you talking about? If the slave trade started in the 1400s then isn't that centuries before 1776 aka the founding of this country?? Its simple math... Please read and reread carefully before commenting because you're comment makes no sense as a response to me. Nothing I said was inaccurate or denying African heritage. I didn't make anything "seem" like nothing. You simply misunderstand what you read. Who are these young ppl you're talking about and what does that have anything to do with my comment?What conspiracy did I reference? Are we not a mix of west and central African people? Is there one country outside of the US that we can claim as a country of origin? where's the fault in my statement? Im confused as to what about my comment triggered you. Please elaborate
As a Black American who does genealogy, these conversations are hilariously infuriating. They always claim we don't know where we're from. When, most of their current colonized countries are younger than my parents. We are well documented and can call our ancestors by name and location to 1860, for most. I got one on the 1790 census. The 1st census of the U.S. I got a documented Union soldier and I probably have more that I haven't found. Let's not discount our indigenous roots, either. Stop playin with us 🤣🤣
While not leaving out indigenous admixture we gotta highlight that our African and indigenous ancestors where two distinct people and black people was not here prior to slavery other than that hell yea the roots go farther on paper than Nigerians
Okay I've seen with you guys you don't understand what we mean by you don't know...... what I can say is its important to us but maybe not to u... I will try to briefly explain.... I'm Zimbabwean nd shona we trace our lineage back to even before we entered zimbabwe.... for example we r shona [tribe of bantu tribes in zimbabwe] in that tribe I'm Rozvi my totem moyo, this was done so we don't inter marry..... nd before that we were part of the Mutapa empire ..... before that we were different tribes with our chiefs before that we cake from the North nd settled in Tanzania to us we call it Tanganyika the start of a nation nd our language shona is similar to swahili not the same so there is the proof... after tanzania we continued south to zimbabwe .... in the expansion to extend mutapa some of our militants spread around southern africa we called them Karanga there r now called kalanga in South africa and Botswana basically they know and we know its oral history passed down so for us it's not 6 generations but thousands of years with archaeological proof... il tell u this there is another tribe of shona that r black isrelites they trace their journey from the middle east to down south still keep the traditions have kept them before the white man landed in Africa. I could write a book.
Black only exists in North America. No one else holds that status which puts us at the bottom of society. When they come to the US they get treated completely different.
My great, great, great-grandmother on my was Choctaw Indian. My grandma's mother was this dark skin woman with high cheekbones, a narrow nose, tight eyes, and curly long white hair.
The main distinction is that British black culture is influenced by African and Caribbean roots. American black culture evolved on its own in the face of slavery, and continuing inequality.
u could rlly same all these points for both sides tho. AA culture had to come from somewhere black British culture also comes from facing inequality. an example would be the Windrush generation where carribeans came to uk to work but were also faced with a lot of discrimination. they started an annual carnival which has become part of their culture and still happens today
@@khayawobill570 You have managed to miss the crux of my point and given a good example of it. Most black British are voluntary migrants from counties of rich generational heritage, with hundreds of years of food, language etc. They all know exactly where they are from and they love it, so much so we have the Nottinghill Carnival every year. Contrast the majority of black Americans after six generations of slavery, where has the culture arisen from? I’m no expert but I’d say zero influence from their homelands and all from their American white owners
Africans may not have things documented because that was a westernized thing. We do have a did called griots, which is an oral way of passing down your family’s history. Africa just has its own way of doing things. Our lineage is more tribal than nationality.
That's a secret code our blood who were taken away to the Caribbean, American and Europe don't know.they have to visit West Africa, Ghana to be precise and learn about their history and all this unanswered questions will be Answered
@@adoniscrashboom I don't have one in particular but a willingness and ability to to follow each thought through beyond just the surface level. I see a lot of misunderstanding and misrepresentations of American history and culture. It often feels like we're looked down upon but it's based on misunderstandings. I think you're changing some minds and helping to open up a more honest discourse.
Great conversation, I believe many Africans don't know that many of us have been here before the 400 slaves came here! And that's why many of us don't classify ourselves as Africans.
Yet you blame Africans for the slave trade. Some of yall don't classify as Africans simply because you don't want to be associated w Africa. And a lot of yall do, in fact, classify as Africans and are more africentric than African immigrants.
@@josephdesouse4320 No, the point is there are no pale skinned indigenous humans. The original Mexicans are black, and the original Americans are black.
@@ronnie2699science shows that it’s a lie. And by “science”, I mean the millions of black Americans who took DNA test: which traced them back to Africa. You cannot manipulate science to tell a lie.
As an African, I have always felt bad to what has happened to our fellow Africans during the Transatlantic slave trade. Unfortunately they have lost touch with their culture and roots in a span of 400 years. 400 years later it's extremely ignorant to say that Africans don't have a history. We know who we are, we are proud of our kingdoms and cultures , and most of us trace our lineages way before the 1600. We should cherish our cultural differences, and try to bridge the gap, instead of making content online for the main purpose of putting each other down.
A lot of Africans keep dragging this conversation as if they cant comprehend that the people their ancestors mostly sold were stripped of all African culture once they arrived to their slavery destination. They even purposely separated people from the same tribes so they dont speak in their language. How are people going to pass down family and cultural information in those conditions? Few did but not many. The US whites who were mostly British had little to no acceptance of African culture and villainized it terribly. Other Europeans like Spanish and Portuguese allowed for a bit more cultural retention. Also enslaved families were often separated so a young child sold away may not have gotten the chance to learn their family history. If you want people to accept that you can trace your lineage thru oral history by 400+ years then you have to accept that they cant trace their ancestors other than the ones in America.
Yall want to believe the false narrative of the slave trade so bad i feel bad for you africans who still colonized in yall own country yall have no source of power there. Yall flee to another country that dont want yall there at all.
The rest of the world not knowing how our ancestors identity was stripped during slavery is making me so mad. They really don’t know the magnitude of how bad slavery was.
Slavery is evil and the worst injustice ever done to humanity. However, the issue I have with so-called Black Americans is always looking for minor problems to antagonize other Blacks who are not Black Americans.
Adonis, Africans that migrate to the USA and their children that are born here aren't African American. This guy and his children would forever be Nigerian American if he became a citizen. We Black Americans have been called African American since the 1700s. As you know, we have been reclassified many times. Black Indigenous people of the USA were also classified as NEGRO/BLACK. Remember African American whether we like it or not is connected to OUR ancestors not his. Africans in the USA are not African American. They're Somalian American, Nigerian American, Ghanaian American, etc. Last, but not least, let's not forget that we have gone through an ethnogenesis that have made us a new people. Black Americans have DNA from 5-6 continents. All of our stories are different because of this. That's the beauty of being Black American. Black Americans are amalgamated people. Remember Black in the USA doesn't mean African. Not all Black Americans have ties to the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
We were not called African Americans until the 1960s, then adopted the term Black Americans in the 90's. They only continually change it because they know who we are and they do not want us to take our land back, like all the other countries. Even in the 60's, wytp knew there was a difference in Africans and the Indigenous people. I have always been proud of my Chickasaw heritage, even when they force colorism on us then for propaganda. It's truly funny how everyone is claiming our culture but no one know the true history and disrespects our accomplishments as a whole.
@@nap-pilisciousbrownie2508 Please do your research ma'am before responding. The first time we were called African American was in the 1700s. Have a nice day.
This was probably my favorite interview of yours with this young black man. I'm a Native Black American as well, so it's interesting to hear the perspectives of other black people in the diaspora.
Why can’t people except that we are American. My lineage is of the indigenous peoples of N America, European’s, NA’s & 1 African. Bloodlines matter & if his future gens procreate with Nigerian’s they’re still Nigerian by blood no matter where they are in the world.
I've seen and met actual Native American people. They are not Black. Some Black Americans may have admixtures with native Americans, of course, but please don't try to steal their identity and eclipse their existence. Native Americans also have their own heritage, languages and cultures which are SPECIFIC to them and it's not hip hop or ebonics, dear.
@@sylviasworld9397 Exactly, you met Native Americans not Indigenous Americans. Native Americans came from Asia, Europe, and other countries. The indigenous Americans were here prior to the Native American groups. Many indigenous Americans were forced into slavery and forced to reclassify themselves as negro, black, coloured, mulatto, etc. Descendants of Afro Indigenous communities don't have to steal from Native Americans. We're not the ones leeching off of other people and their cultures. It's exactly why the entire world is trying to act like Afro Indigenous aka Black Americans. Our culture is more diverse than hip hop. You would not be able to get on your phone if it wasn't for a black American who invented and patented the phone. Anything we create is part of our culture. Last I checked, a phone was hip hop or ebonics my dear.
Very good video and mature. Maturity is what turns this so called 'diaspora war' into very important and much needed conversations that will actually heal us around the globe.
You should look up the guy who send his dog saliva to a dna lab and it said he was from nigeria hahaha I have Arab and white friends who took a dna test and they also had Nigerian blood line lol
Yall need education about FBA bro 😂. Get your delineation in order then come back to the global diaspora table and TRUST that youre welcome like all the others. But dont project on others because you have to gather your own affairs if you dont want our help in achieving that.
Love this convo. Very respectful and lots of shared knowledge. Glad you called that out and explained it to let people know the hows and the whys of what you do. Keep it up man, good content.
Lemme help you Adonis i work in immunology and we do blood matching for stem cells. WE SPECIFICALLY can pinpoint black Americans and black ppl groups . At the DNA LEVEL. we specifically are amalgamation of Western African, indigenous and Western European. We are a NEW ppl group. Not bc of immigration but MISCEGENATION.
Dna shows you who your related too . Plz stop the crazy talk majority of blk americans are indigenous to america yall want us to be africans so bad its sickening what yall will say at this point .
Many of them don’t have birth certificates. Look into non foundationals celebrating their birthday on January 1st since they don’t know their actual birthday.
@vergespierre Brother idk about you but I’m proud of what my ancestors endured for me to here so I don’t care what none of them have to say they are most likely of Irish and other backgrounds who were slaves at some point also just not to the degree that my people faced but they were also so to even talk like it’s something to be ashamed of is bogus because I’m not and I’m proud of my people what they went thru and what they built In This country so they could kiss my ass!
@friendlyguy40 proud of it. Never leave out fighters. Unlike you, runner, yall run from the Chinese run from the British run from deodorant run to the red cross rice. And run to the white man.
@@tamarackboi92 I bet you thought you ate with that little comment 😂 You’ve only shown how little you know about the world around you. Which is exactly why Adonis videos highlight just how ignorant you CHOOSE to be!!! This country is not ours it is the land of our oppressors and you and YOUR people are worse than they are!!! You are the sellers of GOD’S true people. You shouldn’t boast yourself against the people who you want to be like so bad that you do anything just to be in the same sentence as us. Baby we are not the same. We are a royal people who not only survive, but persevere in the face of all adversity so much so that whatever we touch becomes gold! You cannot utter words that could ever cause us to move baby you abased. In the words of Nas, “Your are too short to box with god.” Have a seat and learn something
@@kwameopoku3576probably not true. But having said this, Adonis needs a different line of content. Brits in general think Americans are too happy and arrogant. That is not simply a black Brit perspective.
Amazing conversation and should be had more often and children thought correctly too, pure hearted that boy is, all the best to him, pleasure to listen ❤
The question is at what point did African Americans stop being African. The only difference between these two people is that one person’s family was forcibly moved from Africa and one person’s family chose to leave Africa. The interviewer is telling the truth about African-Americans building America, but it doesn’t negate the fact that at some point, his family came from Africa. This is why he skipped over the part when the gentleman asked him where his family was in the 16 or 1500s. African-Americans definitely have their own culture, but a lot of that culture is something that we brought with us to America.
Plz soeak for yourself u are african iam an american damn these white oppressors did numbers on yall . They lied about blk americans heritage we are from the americas not africa
This argument is like the Chinese jamican, saying they are not Chinese, because they are Jamaicans and their ancestors goes a long way back in living in Jamaica. Indians in Trinidad feels the same way. But they are both right they are Jamaicans, and Trinidadians, but they are both from Chinese and Indian descendants. Just like the black people in both countries are of African descendants. Your nationality is of who you are. This is represented by the country in which you were born in. You can also obtain nationality from the same country by having citizenship of the country in which you choose to reside in if granted. Chinese or negro your nationality is not your descendants unless you wear born in the same countries as your Chinese, or Indian or African descendants. Descendants is a part of your origin it's like your bloodline the son is not the father and the father is not the grandfather but the grandfather is still a link. A lineage of the grandson.
Tether babble😂😂😂😂. We are FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS. Not Africans, Caribbeans or anything else. Our lineage started in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 🇺🇸
As a white American, it would be wild for someone to respond to me saying "I'm American" with "Yeah, But where are you really from" or "Man doesn't know he's Scottish."
Probably my favorite video that you put out so far. Cool guy, good conversation but you really gotta let him speak and let him finish. He would try to say something and you would jump in to prove your point. He’s your guest, he should speak without being interrupted.
Because he wanted to win every conversation. Whenever it's not going his way instead of learning or take sole corrections he will cut them short by jumping in. He should get more education and speak with proffessors of black history there in the UK.
@@iffysd9864 sorry to inform you of this, but you already have Pookies and Ray Ray’s. All races and communities of people have Pookies and Rays Rays in their mix . Black Americans also have doctors, lawyers, accountants, entrepreneurs’, educators etc. We have also have our own colleges and universities. They referred to as HBCU and we go to them and we graduate. But hate on hater.
I’ve traced my family here in America back to the early 1600s so far on 3 sides. Some were Yamasee Indians from Yemasse, South Carolina. Others were Choctaw (Chatah), Aniyunwiya (Cherokee), Blackfoot, Seminole, Creek, etc., but all classified as ‘negro.’ If we were all brought here as slaves, I don't know why I'm finding Black ancestors living all along the southeastern coast before any slave ship ever arrived 😂. The slave ship narrative is dead as far as I’m concerned.
Africans have been visting America for trade and so on way before the Portugese started slave trade in African. At a time in history Egypt was one of the most powerful nation in the world. Are we saying they don't travel to America and to far Asian for trade as merchants ? That was how those generation called the first start settling before slave. Some people just felt Africa was all gloom and doom before slavery.
@@doyin40 there were always indigenous people here and there is nothing wrong with that. For some reason pan Africans get upset at the thought of us being descended from black people indigenous to somewhere other than Africa. That’s an insecurity y’all will have to get over. I’m not going through all the history I know very well who I descend from
You sound like a nice person bro. Blessings to you King. Stay positive, blessed,and happy. Maybe later on in life i might run into u somewhere, connect, become friends and share testimonies and stories. Im always ready to meet/connect with people
My question to my black American brothers and sisters. As an American, do you feel that you have more in common with a white Americans than you do than other black folks that aren’t from America? Curious question
I'm black American. I tend to relate more to carribeans than I do west African immigrants. Probably because of carribeans culture to black American culture especially within the last few decades. It depends really
@@Liampeters248 I can get along with anybody of any ethnic group. I don't see the reason to pretend that we are culturally similar to a random person from Timbuktu. That just isn't true.
@@williamloud7350 no one’s pretending bro but it’s alright to acknowledge one another with respect and dignity. All these videos on TH-cam literally AA vs Africans, I’m very confident that other races are more discriminative to AA’s in the states than Africans. If anything we sympathise for AA’s but it’s also good to acknowledge that life in Africa in comparison to America is very different. Do you know what it’s like to finally get an opportunity to make something of yourself nor your blood line? Most Africans mind their business because they’ve been given a once in a lifetime opportunity. It’s literally equivalent to brothers getting drafted in the league bro so they ain’t got time for distraction, I’d also say by nature Africans are quite people who mind their business and I’m sure when certain events in the states happen, AA’s say Africans don’t care nor or are sell outs, where as AA’s forget that Africans don’t have the confidence to speak or stand up, they’d rather keep quite and keep moving. Best way to defeat ignorance is to not pay attention to it
Please introduce these ppl with this POV to the word Ethnogenesis and tell them the definition. Our enthongenesis began 500 years ago when different Africans from different cultures and regions were forced to live together and speak a new language and develop a new culture and eventually blended together. I’d also like to add that the countries these people claim in Africa weren’t even unified countries when we were taken. They would’ve have known what Nigeria, Ghana or any of these counties were because they didn’t even exist yet. How are you Nigerian but I can say I’m American when Nigeria only been a country since 1900?
Also, they need to have their own conversations about who they are because anytime a continent practiced enslavement, been pillaged and ravaged by war for hundreds of years they get moved around also. A-lot of those African ethnicities (or tribes) are not native to the countries they live in now; that’s why they are referred to as SubSaharan now although they all were not native to the subsaharan. Their DNA test are showing these facts too.
I don't see the relevance of the argument that Nigeria wasn't even named as such, or that your lineage in the US goes back 500 years unless you are related to the 2% of Americans of native-American lineage, otherwise you are not native Americans. It matters not that you don't know which part of the African continent your family originally came from, your origins are still from there. What have censuses got to do with that? That is the issue many here have with the claim.
@@OldWolflad it’s relevant because it’s true. Facts don’t care about your opinion or feelings. I think that until people respect this fact then many are going to continue to take an issue. This issue is with them and not the truth of what I’ve said. If people can proudly proclaim pride in belonging to countries in African that were established in the 1800s during the Berlin Conference and that be respected then people should also respect the fact that there are people outside of Africa who descend from multiple distinct African ethnic groups forced together who intermixed over centuries and developed a new shared culture, history, language and genetic admixture. That makes us a new and distinct ethnic group. I’ve taken the DNA test, i can’t claim one group in central or Western Africa because we are a blend of so many. That blend didn’t take place on the continent therefore our African mixture is native to the Americas. This shouldn’t be controversial. 1+1=2
@@tylineburgos8879just because your DnA cannot be traced back to any specific African country doesn’t negate the fact that most black peoples DNa lineage does originate from Africa. Of course over a few centuries people mix and lineage becomes diluted. But it is not a fact that this makes your DNA American.
@@OldWolflad you’re misunderstanding the reason for me bringing up DNA. The mix happened here therefore it’s native to this land.. you’re not gonna give a person a dna test on the continent and get the same mixture because our combo is an american combo. Never once have I said my race was anything but what it is. My ethnicity however does not originate in Africa even if [most of] my ancestors do. What birthed our ethnic group is the transatlatic slave trade and our history in the Americas. Our ethnicity is native to the Americas not to the continent of Africa. This is not to mention the varying degrees of European admixture within the black American community. My grandmothers family is from Virginia and they’re all fair. She has two “black American parents and 4 grandparents and yet her DNA is 49% European because their community was mixed and continued to marry other mixed ppl. There are some in our ethnic group who are more Europeans biologically than African but they’re still black Americans ethnically. That’s not the case with me or every black American, I’m 88% African and there is a wide range amongst us depending on the region. My father’s family is Gullah/geechee and my mom decends from mixed race free ppl of color in Virginia. Our history is our history. Why can’t we simply embrace who we are and how we came to be without being shamed for it or accused of trying to be anything but what we are and who we are… ppl online always project a false shame in being African or of African descent whenever we try to acknowledge our history and culture. There’s no shame or denial but there is a desire to be acknowledged and respected for who we are. Our ethnicity is just as valid as the Yoruba, or the Akan all of whom have an origin story aka ethnogenesis
Just wanted to add some points here about the topic around 15:00. I don't know how it works in Nigeria but in South Africa we can trace our families lineages through decades because surnames came from clan names. Obviously it gets murky the further back you got but so does most history. Also all of Britains colonies helped build and fight for Britian so we did also contribute and not just migrated.
NO RACE IS A MONOLITH - WHITE, BLACK, ASIAN, OR ETC. White ethnicities: English, Irish, Scottish, Italian, Romanian, German, etc. Black ethnicities: Black Americans, Aboriginie, Brazilian, Hatians, Jamaicans, etc. Asian ethnicities: Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Thai, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. African tribes/ethnicities: Akan, Dahomey, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Somali, etc. Polynesian ethnicities: Samoan, Tongan, Hawaii, Etc. Native Americans: Apache, Navajo, Cherokee, Pawnee, etc.
He is amazing I love him, he is one of the smartest people. I love how he tried to understand, while also trying spend his view, but he was kind about it and not cutting anybody off, which is very appreciated
Racially I’m black, nationally I’m American, culturally I’m American my ancestors were African. He is racially black nationally British, culturally British, ancestry is Nigerian
I like how he listened to understand rather than respond/argue. The man from Congo wasn’t really trying to understand and kept interrupting/not answering the questions.
He is Black British with Nigerian heritage, or British-Nigerian We straddle two worlds and cultures. We identify with all that we are born from and in us. It's our factual reality and we don't fight it but rather embrace it.
I just wanted to share this with you…many of the African American lineages are grouped into larger groups of lineages called haplogroups. Y-DNA haplogroups most commonly found in Africa include A, B and E, as well as subgroups of other haplogroups. So we can actually go back to where we were taken from in Africa. I’m Charleston, SC apart of the Gullah Geechee culture. Most of our ancestors were descendants of these African communities across the diaspora the have been shown genetic admixtures from Central West Africa, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Bights of Benin & Biafra. So we can go further back even with this information too
Africa controls NOTHING on the continent and Europeans and Asians control their economy. European Languages are the OFFICIAL languages of these countries and their names and borders were also created by Europens. And although they outnumber Europeans in the BILLIONS they have been dominanted by them because of greed tribalism and corruption. You need to READ a book cause this asinine fantasy of FREEDOM when their children are losing arms and legs in mines digging for European companies is embarrassingly stupid.
What annoys me is no one would ask a white person who says they're American where are you really from? And some people can't fathom the idea that America is not by default a white country.
As African from Congo DRC, I can promise y'all only Nigerian and Ghanaian care about black American claim Africa , I don't know cause 1 billion of us in Africa don't care about y'all lineage etc y'all can be wherever you want real African people don't care like Ethiopia, somalia, Morocco etc,, we clearly don't care 🙌👏
I wish the conversation of why the vast majority of AA don't know where there heritage. We not talking about how the enslaved literally stripped our ancestors of their language and culture. AA culture is the culmination of all the Africans who lost their culture from the various tribes (for lack of a better word)
@matt52sayow Not to mention, a lot of those islanders were dropped off at those islands before the boat came to America. So what African country are their people from?
This is why I say he chooses uneducated people to have these conversations with. Because anyone with the slightest bit of education would know that during slavery, African countries did not exist. There were empires, kingdoms, territories but no countries. It’s ridiculous to think that a brutally enslaved people would know exactly where they come from in Africa. This is why I find him intellectually dishonest. These conversations should be had with people who are knowledgeable on the subject
African Americans scientifically have a DNA phenotype that is unique. Take me for instance. My DNA is a mixture of Nigerian, Ivory Coast, Cameroon , Mali, Senegal and about 10 percent mixture of European and Scandinavian. Most black Americana have a similar mixture.i have found documented evidence imy ancestors dating back to 1700s in America. This includes the white men on both sides of my family that had children with their likely enslaved women 175 years ago. So when u say “dont know” we know or can fond out to a certain extent
@@n.e9364he said exactly what u just said. I dont understand how he was dishonest. Almost verbatim he said how African countries were arbitrarily drawn and named. Zimbabwe at one time i believe was called Rhodesia after Cecil Rhodea. The notorious British explorer who basically called black people apes incapable of of creating structures like the Great Zimbabwe.
It’s almost as if some black Americans don’t like to be associated with Africa, it’s particularly black Americans, they love the American identity so much, the Chinese just recently traced there origin back to Africa, how much more a black person in America?🤷🏽♂️ carry with you what ever label you want to carry but remember African was born in you, you were not born in Africa ✊🏾
🧐I sometimes feel they would prefer to be labelled Americans instead of African Americans. The only people that can change that are the USA lawmakers !
Because we don’t speak any African languages , never been there , don’t eat African food, don’t practice African culture , yes we have African dna but our ancestors were slaves who lived in America since wen so why would I say I’m African ?? I fw yall tho but we are black American which is soulaan we built a culture within America.
@@Antt-u7jI don't speak any African languages either. Depending on where the British guy in the video is from, he may also not speak his parents language. I do eat food from African countries (Nigeria, Ghana , Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya etc but also , Indian, Chinese, Jamaican etc. It makes no effect on my DNA though. If I have an ancestry test those countries won't show up unless I have ancestry from there. If you have ancestry from African countries they will show up in your ancestry results whether you indulge in the food, culture or not. The US may not, though. Does it mean your legitimate claim to the country you are in is invalidated, of course not but both are true. Your origin and your current identity. A White American with German ancestry may say the EXACT same thing as you though.
@@MEENA-uq3yxThe poster could simply mention his/her tribe without saying the continent and you'd know roughly where they are from , their language, their food, their traditions, their traditional dress etc. They don't even have to say the word "Africa" . In fact that word alone tells you very little. If you say Ashanti, Ewe, Zulu, Xhosa, Yoruba, Igbo, Fulani.....You've already been told a whole lot about that person's heritage and culture. White people did not come up with those names/titles. Which I think was the point being made.
It’s very easy to let people talk But as a host it my job to keep people on the topic In this video you might not notice it so easy But I had to round back 3 times to stay on topic We kept jumping down the rabbit hole 😅😅😅
Asking descendants of American slaves where they come from in Africa is nonsensical at this point.
It’s been nonsensical but they only do this to Black Americans. I never see this happen with Haitians, Brazilians, Bajans, or any other group with any history of displacement from the slave trade. Just because all these foreign groups want to migrate over here after we made it safe for melanated people to do so with our civil rights movement do not get to strip our identity because they’re confused about their own.
We are not African, that was a lie told to our grandparents and parents to get us to disconnect from the land. We are American Indians.
@@profitablepat9374Stop the self hate
@@GeronFletcher self hate? I love myself enough to find out who I am and dispel the lies that people are still trying to perpetuate to this day.
@@profitablepat9374 that’s funny man. You somehow think your ancestors and cousins aren’t from Africa it’s just insanity. We have eyes.
I think the difference is in Europe they are participating in an existing culture. Here in America we created the culture.
Bingo! We were in America before it was a country & people can’t fathom that lol
This is like a damn "unknown full time job." We can spit out water and ppl will take it run wit it😂😂
White people created not you black Americans 😅
But America was created by Europe. So whose culture is it really?
@@tdogg1157 ours
But most Black Americans don’t have any views on Blacks in the UK. I don’t even think we think about it.
That's a general American outlook on the rest of the world though, not specifically Black American one to be fair.
It's a US thing not to be inquisitive about anything outside the US.
That's not a Black American invention, just a general US stance.
Exactly, an arrogant nation
@@coleyounger6498and they invented all the technology
@@boomboombaby9140no they stole their technology from the resources of other people
@@coleyounger6498you mad we don’t pay attention to you? Weird
As a Black Dutch, applaud you for engaging in this convo. Having these convos daily with my fam in America. We all black, but we all ethnically unique. Unity in diversity. ❤
Thank You Wow what part of this video did you enjoy the most ?
Suriname?
Who say we are black ?
@@westkingston3135 We say we are Black.., I’m Black and I’m Proud ✊🏿
(Black American.. Non Immigrant)
@@adoniscrashboomi agree with the guy on tick tok all this FBA B1 C5 is nonsense..
The first African Americans established the oldest city in the US in 1565 (St. Augustine, FL). We've been on this landmass for a very long time.
😂😂St. Augustine, Florida is considered the oldest continuously inhabited city in the United States, founded in 1565 by Spanish admiral Pedro Menéndez de Avilés.
SHUTUP
Corrected :
Eatonville, Florida is the oldest Black-incorporated municipality in the United States, established in 1887 by 27 Black men. The town served as a symbol of freedom and autonomy for Black Floridians and other Black Southerners during the Reconstruction era
The American aborigines are now being called black/ African Americans.
@@krazyjnva2up2down55 - Sir, you might need to shut up. St. Augustine was founded by African Moors and Spanish conquistadors. Fort Mose is older than Eatonville and is the first Black community in the United States. Please stay out of Black folks' business.
@@MsJay-cr1id Right! And some of the Spanish Conquistors were Black too not to be confused with the African Moors.
We are not African bro, we are Black Americans . FBA. Why do some people have issues with Black Americans taking pride of our homeland. A Jamaican or Haitian person never have to answer what part of Africa they come from. They can stay Jamaican or Haitian .
He knows. He speaks on it often.
lol ignorant akata
facts
@@davidleandro7026you not like us lil fella
@@destinywilliams8597 leave them, these guys are the most racist people ever, if America should be leave for them , they’ll destroy it without building anything
I love that you have these conversations in a respectful and educated manor.
It’s rewarding for a FBA to represent us in other countries. They really think we are simpletons.
Who thinks your simpletons?
@@144chosenit’s projection
@@LondonMoneyCashEnterprisehe literally has no less than 25 videos in which he asks people from the UK and they say Americans are DUMB. But carry on being obtuse.
That's because fba are simpletons and tariq nasheed is capitalizing on that however african Americans on the other hand very intelligent 😊
@@elzyofficial9087 projection*
People tend to dismiss the fact that Black Americans have been here for over 6 generations. Like us saying we’re American isn’t accurate.
You mean (14 generations) the 1600s.......6 generations is only to 1860-70.
6 generations is a great grandparent that is NOTHING. Black Americans go back 14 generations and more
Nah you're all just too ignorant to even think about it
I can trace my family back to 1735. Genetically I am predominately African, but culturally I'm American.
Thank you for making the distinction between heritage and nationality/culture.
This is where I think people are getting tripped up or conflicted , rather.
Thinking you either embrace or admit to one OR the other, when really BOTH are simultaneously true.
@sylviasworld9397 That's only specific to this person. Genealogy results may vary very much for each Black American. Black Americans who trace their ancestry using Genealogy aren't confused about who they are.
Exactly, black folks in America are American now. What’s the problem. Black folks in Africa are African. When you touch water your hand get wet. Crazy
@@thegoodgirl6935 African Americans are Americans
Same I'm negropean= 🇺🇸
Stop pushing the guest back and let them speak. Nice to see you interview single people who are a bit older and educated rather than giggling 16 year olds
This is by far my favorite interview. The young man was remarkably intelligent and open-minded, engaging in meaningful discussion without resorting to insults or disrespect. Even amidst disagreements, he maintained a level of respect that is increasingly rare. This is how conversations should be-focused on understanding rather than degradation. It's a shame that we often reduce ourselves to insults when respectful dialogue can achieve so much more.
Yes definitely interview more mature people
Thank you Nigerian King the best video so far
It's definitely the best, they both did great 👍🏿
Adonis needs to do a much better job of listening . It’s annoying to hear you ask a question then cut the speaker off so that you can get “your” point across. Listening is definitely an art.
Verging on rude
That's what happens when you begin in a defensive mode. Assuming that the other party has come to fight you, somehow.
Really? I actually thought it was the opposite. He gave the other guy alot of time to talk
Maybe you should start your own channel. Peace!
@@tonyarichelle8380 Why would I need to start my own channel? Are you insinuating that I shouldn't be able to make an observation and state my opinion?
There were so called blacks in America before Columbus, and we are still here. We are aboriginal and do not come from Africa.
Stop chattin
There were not stop making shit up
We come from both continents, matter fact we got some Asian in us too.
Some of us do, majority of us do not
@@YurrahAlHadiThats cap bru take a dna test
Black Americans goes back to the 1600s - GENERATIONS - HUNDREDS OF YEARS !!!!
Exactly
Further then that
Me Nigerian 'My Yoruba Tribe' we go back thousands of years
@@edwardbanjo5146 and? America is a younger country. Do you want a cookie for your old tribe?
I don’t think I’ve ever had a negative thought about black British people lol. I don’t know where this beef even came from lol
personally i’ve noticed that AA have had prejudice towards africans. name calling has been a thing africans have had to endure for instance I have Nigerian relatives who went immigrated to America we get called names I heard of all sorts of names e.g. “African booty scratcher”. when black British people hear about this who are from African descent so it’s obviously going to cause a negative view towards African-Americans.
@@damilolakomolafe6634 yea I’ve heard jokes towards Africans in the 90’s mostly. But not black Brit’s
@damilolakomolafe6634 I wish y'all would stop that bs. All kids get teased for being different. And African booty scratcher is a skin tone diss. I've never been to Africa in my life, and I was called the same name. So annoying!!!
@@southernblackbelle33 facts
@@southernblackbelle33they are soft. we grew up “cracking jokes”.
The difference is that African Americans are descended from Akan (Ghana), Igbo (Nigeria), Ewe (Ghana/Togo), Yoruba (Nigeria), Bakongo (Congo), Wolof (Senegambia) Etc…
We are not wholly separate or divorced from the subsaharan African ancestors, who are our Nth great forefathers and foremothers.
And neither is our African American culture. It has very real connections, very real roots in the African cultures, in which our African Ancestors were taken from.
Also, genetically, very few African Americans have significant, if any Native/indigenous American Ancestry. Having significant indigenous Native American ancestry does not apply to most of us.
I really wish that we were as interested in/Obsessed with dissecting and educating ourselves on the African roots/retentions of our African American culture (and genetics), as we are with upholding this ideal of a “Black American only” identity.
I’m not arguing for pan-Africanism, here. I’m arguing for better education (and self directed education).
So the lie that very few Black Americans have Native Ancestry is one that continues to propgate because of a misnomer from Skip Gates. Especially when there are Black Americans who's family has been classified and reclassified numerous times. It doesn't even make sense from a cultural anthropological purview but that is a discussion for another day.
One of the BIGGEST problems with your statement is that you clearly come from a school of though that romanticizes the continent and continental connections and does not expect Black Americans to deal with the reality that Africans were selling other Africans from different tribes to Europenas for CENTURIES into chattle slavery because they did not see each other as the same people nor did any groups across the globe because RACE was not a concept and ETHNICITY was the driving factor of identity. Which means the two Africans right next to each other didn't see themselves as the same but SOMEHOW an amalgamated people who experienced HALF A MILLENIA of ethnogenesis, are thousands of miles and centuries of culture and history removed are now the same as those on the continent??
If Black Americans are not interested in morphing their identity with the slave BUYERS who's blood they have why would the slave SELLERS who's blood they also have be any different? Why are we cannonizing groups who performed forgetfulness rituals to ensure that neither our ancestors nor their ddescendants returned to avenge their betrayal? Why are we trying to infantalize the continent and lioninze it at the same time when it comes to The transAtlantic Slave trade and accountability?
The expectation that Black Americans obsolve Africans and hold Euopeans accountble is absurd. The shame associated with acknowledging African participation in the slave trade, a shame that is NOT ours BTW, is what led to the Black leaders of the day like Richard Wright stopping the publishing of Zora Neal Hurston's book "BARRACCON" from seeing the light of day for 80+ years. Having a first hand account of the savagery of the Dahomey Female Slave traders from one of their living victims Cudjo Lewis made this romanticinzed narrative impossible and they were also afraind that whites would use it to obsolve themselves of their own demonic crimes against us. Noboy should be let of the hook and we need to see our history for what it actually is, The idea that Black Americans obsolve red natives who also participated in our enslavement and who's blood MANY of us do in fact carry is also absurd.
Black Americans get to be BLACK AMERiCANS just like Jamaicans get to be Jamaicans, Bajans get to be Bajans and Trinis get to be Trinis. We don't pretend the Chinese and Japanese are the same and ask them to go back to their ancient origins to the San people in South Africa but in order for everybody to attach themseelves to what we;ve done this is what Black Americans hear. The problem is because Black Americans researched and explored and created academia acknowledging our ties to the continent and folks saw that as an excuse to ERASE our unique ethnic identity in OUR COUNTRY and are now uncomfortable that we are pushing back. Folks write think pieces about US because of what we have accomplished in the world despite the centuries of trauma and want us to be the ONLY group in the Diaspora that doesn't claim our country proudly. That doesn't work for Black Americans that know their legacy. A legacy EVERYBODY ELSE gets to run here and eat off of while simultaneously disrespectig it.
This is the best response i have seen so far.
There’s always that high iq comment that everyone intentionally brush past. This would be it.
This guy is being very polite to you, he has manners and is diplomatic...
He was way more polite than that Congolese British guy who was so angry and combative towards African Americans. He was so hostile to Adonis too.
@@NovemberReigne okay, I'm not sure who that is... I've not seen that episode. In all fairness, 'Adonis' doesn't seem to be too fond of 'UK Blacks' on observation, and unfortunately seems to only speak to those who are young who are not interested in knowledge of self/history or general knowledge etc, as opposed to speaking to a more mature crowd who may have more wisdom on things from the previous generations, 90s, 80s and 70s etc, like 2nd & 3rd generation Windrush folk. But maybe it's created just for entertainment purposes only. No one should be unnecessarily rude to anyone re: the man in the episode you're speaking about
Bruh, the US became a country in 1776. We were already here for centuries going back to when this was just a colony. There has been a continuous Black presence in the Americas since the 1500s. Ethnogenisis is the birth of a new ethnic group and that's what happened with us. My African mix is not found in nor does it originate on the continent of Africa or in one country or from one people, my DNA proves that. I cant point to one country outside of the United states and claim it as my country of origin. We are a blend west and central African people with varying degrees of European and indigenous American mixed in. That took place HERE meaning we are FROM HERE... We created a culture that is native to the Americas. We arent a lost people we are a new people native to the Americas. My dna shows that I’m linked to black American in the Carolina and Virginia because we’ve been here a half a millennia mixing and mingling. The problem is ppl don’t think of the US as a real country, it’s somehow made up or not real and is thought of as a land of immigrants when there are ppl like Black Americans whose family history is the history of America and predate the founding of new American countries like the USA, Canada and all of the Latin American and Caribbean countries. It’s actually quite disrespectful and dismissive of our history and culture. That’s part of the reason why ppl see no issue taking from our culture and disrespecting us at the same time.
Profound and so accurate
Perfectly said!
👏🏾
@@destinywilliams8597let them know my people was taken from Africa
@@destinywilliams8597 What are you talking about? If the slave trade started in the 1400s then isn't that centuries before 1776 aka the founding of this country?? Its simple math... Please read and reread carefully before commenting because you're comment makes no sense as a response to me. Nothing I said was inaccurate or denying African heritage. I didn't make anything "seem" like nothing. You simply misunderstand what you read. Who are these young ppl you're talking about and what does that have anything to do with my comment?What conspiracy did I reference? Are we not a mix of west and central African people? Is there one country outside of the US that we can claim as a country of origin? where's the fault in my statement? Im confused as to what about my comment triggered you. Please elaborate
Black Americans aren't observing Black British people like they observed Black Americans.
But you the one going to London and asking dumb questions.
As a Black American who does genealogy, these conversations are hilariously infuriating. They always claim we don't know where we're from. When, most of their current colonized countries are younger than my parents.
We are well documented and can call our ancestors by name and location to 1860, for most. I got one on the 1790 census. The 1st census of the U.S.
I got a documented Union soldier and I probably have more that I haven't found.
Let's not discount our indigenous roots, either.
Stop playin with us 🤣🤣
That's why they identify by tribe i.e. Yoruba, Nigerian, alot of African Americans have Igbo, Nigerian dna
Black American here. How can I trace my ancestry/census?
While not leaving out indigenous admixture we gotta highlight that our African and indigenous ancestors where two distinct people and black people was not here prior to slavery other than that hell yea the roots go farther on paper than Nigerians
Okay I've seen with you guys you don't understand what we mean by you don't know...... what I can say is its important to us but maybe not to u... I will try to briefly explain.... I'm Zimbabwean nd shona we trace our lineage back to even before we entered zimbabwe.... for example we r shona [tribe of bantu tribes in zimbabwe] in that tribe I'm Rozvi my totem moyo, this was done so we don't inter marry..... nd before that we were part of the Mutapa empire ..... before that we were different tribes with our chiefs before that we cake from the North nd settled in Tanzania to us we call it Tanganyika the start of a nation nd our language shona is similar to swahili not the same so there is the proof... after tanzania we continued south to zimbabwe .... in the expansion to extend mutapa some of our militants spread around southern africa we called them Karanga there r now called kalanga in South africa and Botswana basically they know and we know its oral history passed down so for us it's not 6 generations but thousands of years with archaeological proof... il tell u this there is another tribe of shona that r black isrelites they trace their journey from the middle east to down south still keep the traditions have kept them before the white man landed in Africa. I could write a book.
Black only exists in North America. No one else holds that status which puts us at the bottom of society. When they come to the US they get treated completely different.
Aye he’s black and Navajo, I’m black and Ute foundational black Americans 💪🏽
My great, great, great-grandmother on my was Choctaw Indian. My grandma's mother was this dark skin woman with high cheekbones, a narrow nose, tight eyes, and curly long white hair.
FBA AllDay!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@@altovise14you're black
The main distinction is that British black culture is influenced by African and Caribbean roots.
American black culture evolved on its own in the face of slavery, and continuing inequality.
u could rlly same all these points for both sides tho. AA culture had to come from somewhere black British culture also comes from facing inequality. an example would be the Windrush generation where carribeans came to uk to work but were also faced with a lot of discrimination. they started an annual carnival which has become part of their culture and still happens today
@@khayawobill570 You have managed to miss the crux of my point and given a good example of it.
Most black British are voluntary migrants from counties of rich generational heritage, with hundreds of years of food, language etc. They all know exactly where they are from and they love it, so much so we have the Nottinghill Carnival every year.
Contrast the majority of black Americans after six generations of slavery, where has the culture arisen from? I’m no expert but I’d say zero influence from their homelands and all from their American white owners
@@khayawobill570but carnival happened in the Caribbean. They simply transplanted a west Indian cultural festival.
Africans may not have things documented because that was a westernized thing. We do have a did called griots, which is an oral way of passing down your family’s history. Africa just has its own way of doing things. Our lineage is more tribal than nationality.
That's a secret code our blood who were taken away to the Caribbean, American and Europe don't know.they have to visit West Africa, Ghana to be precise and learn about their history and all this unanswered questions will be Answered
We know and that is more proof that we’re different.
@@stenson05😂😂😂😂😂😂. Exactly. Oral traditions are like mythology. WE HAVE DOCUMENTED PROOF. They have STORIES 😂😂
@@Ronin-FBA you got proof that you were someone’s property. Congratulations
@@stenson05 I never said we were the same culturally. But we are still black regardless.
This was a much more in depth conversation that needed to happen. Love it dude. Keep it up!
Thank you so much what line or question was it that hit you the most in this interaction?
@@adoniscrashboom I don't have one in particular but a willingness and ability to to follow each thought through beyond just the surface level. I see a lot of misunderstanding and misrepresentations of American history and culture. It often feels like we're looked down upon but it's based on misunderstandings. I think you're changing some minds and helping to open up a more honest discourse.
Great conversation, I believe many Africans don't know that many of us have been here before the 400 slaves came here! And that's why many of us don't classify ourselves as Africans.
it's not "you" it's one of your ancestor , and you have more african slave ancestor than the rest
So u guy are tobe not kenta kunte
Yet you blame Africans for the slave trade. Some of yall don't classify as Africans simply because you don't want to be associated w Africa. And a lot of yall do, in fact, classify as Africans and are more africentric than African immigrants.
@@josephdesouse4320 No, the point is there are no pale skinned indigenous humans. The original Mexicans are black, and the original Americans are black.
@@ronnie2699science shows that it’s a lie. And by “science”, I mean the millions of black Americans who took DNA test: which traced them back to Africa. You cannot manipulate science to tell a lie.
As an African, I have always felt bad to what has happened to our fellow Africans during the Transatlantic slave trade. Unfortunately they have lost touch with their culture and roots in a span of 400 years.
400 years later it's extremely ignorant to say that Africans don't have a history. We know who we are, we are proud of our kingdoms and cultures , and most of us trace our lineages way before the 1600.
We should cherish our cultural differences, and try to bridge the gap, instead of making content online for the main purpose of putting each other down.
A lot of Africans keep dragging this conversation as if they cant comprehend that the people their ancestors mostly sold were stripped of all African culture once they arrived to their slavery destination. They even purposely separated people from the same tribes so they dont speak in their language. How are people going to pass down family and cultural information in those conditions? Few did but not many. The US whites who were mostly British had little to no acceptance of African culture and villainized it terribly. Other Europeans like Spanish and Portuguese allowed for a bit more cultural retention. Also enslaved families were often separated so a young child sold away may not have gotten the chance to learn their family history.
If you want people to accept that you can trace your lineage thru oral history by 400+ years then you have to accept that they cant trace their ancestors other than the ones in America.
We ...don't..care..
We feel no need to bridge a gap. There is no Gap. Black americans are happy being black Americans.
You forgot to mention your people helped round us up and sold us into slavery because your people knew that we aren't the same!!
@@vsperatos Clap for yourself
No one asked😒
Yall want to believe the false narrative of the slave trade so bad i feel bad for you africans who still colonized in yall own country yall have no source of power there. Yall flee to another country that dont want yall there at all.
The rest of the world not knowing how our ancestors identity was stripped during slavery is making me so mad. They really don’t know the magnitude of how bad slavery was.
Slavery is evil and the worst injustice ever done to humanity. However, the issue I have with so-called Black Americans is always looking for minor problems to antagonize other Blacks who are not Black Americans.
U dnt know how bad colonization was either i dunno y blk Americans think we have to care bout them u are not the blks in the world
Cos they’ve made it Disney the slavery things…..
Adonis, Africans that migrate to the USA and their children that are born here aren't African American. This guy and his children would forever be Nigerian American if he became a citizen.
We Black Americans have been called African American since the 1700s. As you know, we have been reclassified many times. Black Indigenous people of the USA were also classified as NEGRO/BLACK. Remember African American whether we like it or not is connected to OUR ancestors not his.
Africans in the USA are not African American. They're Somalian American, Nigerian American, Ghanaian American, etc.
Last, but not least, let's not forget that we have gone through an ethnogenesis that have made us a new people. Black Americans have DNA from 5-6 continents. All of our stories are different because of this. That's the beauty of being Black American. Black Americans are amalgamated people.
Remember Black in the USA doesn't mean African. Not all Black Americans have ties to the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
but the vast majority will be
@OldWolflad Black never meant African. That's the point. Not all Black American ancestors were brought over on a ship. FACTS.
This. Ethnicity can't not be immigrated into. We're black American our ethnoigenesis started here. Even at the allele level.
We were not called African Americans until the 1960s, then adopted the term Black Americans in the 90's. They only continually change it because they know who we are and they do not want us to take our land back, like all the other countries. Even in the 60's, wytp knew there was a difference in Africans and the Indigenous people. I have always been proud of my Chickasaw heritage, even when they force colorism on us then for propaganda. It's truly funny how everyone is claiming our culture but no one know the true history and disrespects our accomplishments as a whole.
@@nap-pilisciousbrownie2508 Please do your research ma'am before responding. The first time we were called African American was in the 1700s. Have a nice day.
All Black people are not the same, different countries, cultures, traditions
We're still all black
@@c_2519skin color isn’t culture
@@c_2519 doesnt matter. We're not the same
@@keywill1728 ur the reason why we're so divided
@@c_2519 why u keep saying we? Black Americans has nun in common with Africans beside were black. We don't even look the same
This guy just said Chinese and Japanese people look the same! What the hell is he talking about?
This was probably my favorite interview of yours with this young black man. I'm a Native Black American as well, so it's interesting to hear the perspectives of other black people in the diaspora.
Why can’t people except that we are American. My lineage is of the indigenous peoples of N America, European’s, NA’s & 1 African. Bloodlines matter & if his future gens procreate with Nigerian’s they’re still Nigerian by blood no matter where they are in the world.
He didn’t even answer the question
I've seen and met actual Native American people. They are not Black. Some Black Americans may have admixtures with native Americans, of course, but please don't try to steal their identity and eclipse their existence.
Native Americans also have their own heritage, languages and cultures which are SPECIFIC to them and it's not hip hop or ebonics, dear.
Oh Brother …
@@sylviasworld9397 Exactly, you met Native Americans not Indigenous Americans. Native Americans came from Asia, Europe, and other countries. The indigenous Americans were here prior to the Native American groups. Many indigenous Americans were forced into slavery and forced to reclassify themselves as negro, black, coloured, mulatto, etc. Descendants of Afro Indigenous communities don't have to steal from Native Americans. We're not the ones leeching off of other people and their cultures. It's exactly why the entire world is trying to act like Afro Indigenous aka Black Americans. Our culture is more diverse than hip hop. You would not be able to get on your phone if it wasn't for a black American who invented and patented the phone. Anything we create is part of our culture. Last I checked, a phone was hip hop or ebonics my dear.
If not even white ppl are from America what makes u think u are
Very good video and mature. Maturity is what turns this so called 'diaspora war' into very important and much needed conversations that will actually heal us around the globe.
Can't argue with the American gentleman they seem to have a more definitive history going back at least 400 year's with their documented census. .
My brothers took their DNA, and our paternal DNA says we're Igbo Nigerian. We've been here since 1700s. Am I still Nigerian?
Listen the guy interview is mixed race he is not real black am understand him
You should look up the guy who send his dog saliva to a dna lab and it said he was from nigeria hahaha I have Arab and white friends who took a dna test and they also had Nigerian blood line lol
They need education on Founding Black American
@@user-MssMiE notice the conversation start normal then they go into the same talking point rants lol 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
Yall need education about FBA bro 😂. Get your delineation in order then come back to the global diaspora table and TRUST that youre welcome like all the others. But dont project on others because you have to gather your own affairs if you dont want our help in achieving that.
@@urbnctrl ok cool and just make sure he doesn’t bring those white boys to the table
Found what exactly?
American is named after Amerigo Vespucci so you sound a bit dunce there.
Yep! Adonis asked a very simple question. They can never give the simple answer
The Nigerian guyz skooled you bro
Love this convo. Very respectful and lots of shared knowledge. Glad you called that out and explained it to let people know the hows and the whys of what you do. Keep it up man, good content.
let him speak and get on with his day DAMN🤣
Lemme help you Adonis i work in immunology and we do blood matching for stem cells. WE SPECIFICALLY can pinpoint black Americans and black ppl groups . At the DNA LEVEL. we specifically are amalgamation of Western African, indigenous and Western European. We are a NEW ppl group. Not bc of immigration but MISCEGENATION.
Dna shows you who your related too . Plz stop the crazy talk majority of blk americans are indigenous to america yall want us to be africans so bad its sickening what yall will say at this point .
You’re a really passionate brother. Your engagement is really good will be watching much more . Thank you ✊🏾
Your breakdowns are top tier. Keep doing the good work! 🙏🏾
This was a good interview! Marvelous seems like a good dude!
Many of them don’t have birth certificates. Look into non foundationals celebrating their birthday on January 1st since they don’t know their actual birthday.
😂 right they come to America and all of there bdays be January 1st and can lie about there age
@@vicepres02 manut bol
@@friendlyguy40lol we were never slaves but prisoner of wars
@vergespierre
Brother idk about you but I’m proud of what my ancestors endured for me to here so I don’t care what none of them have to say they are most likely of Irish and other backgrounds who were slaves at some point also just not to the degree that my people faced but they were also so to even talk like it’s something to be ashamed of is bogus because I’m not and I’m proud of my people what they went thru and what they built In This country so they could kiss my ass!
@friendlyguy40 proud of it. Never leave out fighters. Unlike you, runner, yall run from the Chinese run from the British run from deodorant run to the red cross rice. And run to the white man.
I think this was one of your greats as of yet. You need to keep this guy around bc he was extremely interactive. Love this conversation 🫡🫡
I have never sat and thought about not one living African. EVER!!!!!!!!
Yeah that’s ya problem. Cuz y’all getting wiped out in ya own country
@@tamarackboi92 I bet you thought you ate with that little comment 😂
You’ve only shown how little you know about the world around you. Which is exactly why Adonis videos highlight just how ignorant you CHOOSE to be!!!
This country is not ours it is the land of our oppressors and you and YOUR people are worse than they are!!! You are the sellers of GOD’S true people. You shouldn’t boast yourself against the people who you want to be like so bad that you do anything just to be in the same sentence as us. Baby we are not the same. We are a royal people who not only survive, but persevere in the face of all adversity so much so that whatever we touch becomes gold! You cannot utter words that could ever cause us to move baby you abased.
In the words of Nas, “Your are too short to box with god.”
Have a seat and learn something
Ive never sat down sn thought about one living BLACK American ever !!!!!
@@kwameopoku3576
And yet somehow you’re triggered….
@@kwameopoku3576probably not true. But having said this, Adonis needs a different line of content. Brits in general think Americans are too happy and arrogant. That is not simply a black Brit perspective.
Amazing conversation and should be had more often and children thought correctly too, pure hearted that boy is, all the best to him, pleasure to listen ❤
The question is at what point did African Americans stop being African. The only difference between these two people is that one person’s family was forcibly moved from Africa and one person’s family chose to leave Africa. The interviewer is telling the truth about African-Americans building America, but it doesn’t negate the fact that at some point, his family came from Africa. This is why he skipped over the part when the gentleman asked him where his family was in the 16 or 1500s. African-Americans definitely have their own culture, but a lot of that culture is something that we brought with us to America.
I personally stopped by not having the knowledge. I was born in Louisiana In America never been to Africa. I identify as a black American
Plz soeak for yourself u are african iam an american damn these white oppressors did numbers on yall . They lied about blk americans heritage we are from the americas not africa
Man I appreciate you so much. Thank you for your due diligence!!! Thank you for doing the work. Thank you for being FAIR✅
This argument is like the Chinese jamican, saying they are not Chinese, because they are Jamaicans and their ancestors goes a long way back in living in Jamaica. Indians in Trinidad feels the same way. But they are both right they are Jamaicans, and Trinidadians, but they are both from Chinese and Indian descendants. Just like the black people in both countries are of African descendants. Your nationality is of who you are. This is represented by the country in which you were born in. You can also obtain nationality from the same country by having citizenship of the country in which you choose to reside in if granted. Chinese or negro your nationality is not your descendants unless you wear born in the same countries as your Chinese, or Indian or African descendants. Descendants is a part of your origin it's like your bloodline the son is not the father and the father is not the grandfather but the grandfather is still a link. A lineage of the grandson.
Tether babble😂😂😂😂. We are FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS. Not Africans, Caribbeans or anything else. Our lineage started in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 🇺🇸
It’s not the same you cannot find fba genetic architecture in Africa
As a white American, it would be wild for someone to respond to me saying "I'm American" with "Yeah, But where are you really from" or "Man doesn't know he's Scottish."
But America is a country of immigrants and founded only in 1776, ya fool! Britain has older buildings than your country
Adonis went to the school of Yvette Carmel & Antonio Moore, “WHO YOU”
Y'all two look like straight up brothers.
And, excellent dialogue too!
This is beautiful bro. I could fuckin cry
I love these videos bro as a Black Brit. Keep them up, they are very entertaining and educational.
Probably my favorite video that you put out so far. Cool guy, good conversation but you really gotta let him speak and let him finish. He would try to say something and you would jump in to prove your point. He’s your guest, he should speak without being interrupted.
This!
Because he wanted to win every conversation. Whenever it's not going his way instead of learning or take sole corrections he will cut them short by jumping in.
He should get more education and speak with proffessors of black history there in the UK.
19:10 the difference is a lot of them migrated to the uk within the last century we been in the us for centuries
THEY NOT LIKE US!
That's a good thing lol we don't want to be pookies and ray rays
@@iffysd9864Pookies and Ray rays? Where did you learn that slang from? 🤣🤡🤡
@@iffysd9864yes your booty scratcher ass do😂
@@iffysd9864 sorry to inform you of this, but you already have Pookies and Ray Ray’s. All races and communities of people have Pookies and Rays Rays in their mix . Black Americans also have doctors, lawyers, accountants, entrepreneurs’, educators etc. We have also have our own colleges and universities. They referred to as HBCU and we go to them and we graduate. But hate on hater.
@@iffysd9864 don't flatter yourself yall definitely got em
Good Talk!
Not gon lie I learned some shit here today
Now, this was a much better conversation! Great job Adonis and Marvelous 💯
I’ve traced my family here in America back to the early 1600s so far on 3 sides. Some were Yamasee Indians from Yemasse, South Carolina. Others were Choctaw (Chatah), Aniyunwiya (Cherokee), Blackfoot, Seminole, Creek, etc., but all classified as ‘negro.’ If we were all brought here as slaves, I don't know why I'm finding Black ancestors living all along the southeastern coast before any slave ship ever arrived 😂. The slave ship narrative is dead as far as I’m concerned.
Facts We are aboriginal Americans 🦅
@@ThetrueAmericans.yessir! 🪶💯
Africans have been visting America for trade and so on way before the Portugese started slave trade in African.
At a time in history Egypt was one of the most powerful nation in the world. Are we saying they don't travel to America and to far Asian for trade as merchants ? That was how those generation called the first start settling before slave.
Some people just felt Africa was all gloom and doom before slavery.
@@doyin40 there were always indigenous people here and there is nothing wrong with that. For some reason pan Africans get upset at the thought of us being descended from black people indigenous to somewhere other than Africa. That’s an insecurity y’all will have to get over. I’m not going through all the history I know very well who I descend from
@@Monte777 you repeating the same point, you claim you descended from native black americans, nd where did they descend from?
I appreciate this young brother for defending foundational black Americans. The census point was really insightful.
good job ADONIS
You sound like a nice person bro. Blessings to you King. Stay positive, blessed,and happy. Maybe later on in life i might run into u somewhere, connect, become friends and share testimonies and stories. Im always ready to meet/connect with people
My question to my black American brothers and sisters.
As an American, do you feel that you have more in common with a white Americans than you do than other black folks that aren’t from America?
Curious question
I'm black American. I tend to relate more to carribeans than I do west African immigrants. Probably because of carribeans culture to black American culture especially within the last few decades. It depends really
Yes we definitely have more in common with white Americans than we do with any random person from a different country.
@@williamloud7350 glad to know, atleast now we can draw the line instead of trying to get along :)
@@Liampeters248 I can get along with anybody of any ethnic group. I don't see the reason to pretend that we are culturally similar to a random person from Timbuktu. That just isn't true.
@@williamloud7350 no one’s pretending bro but it’s alright to acknowledge one another with respect and dignity. All these videos on TH-cam literally AA vs Africans, I’m very confident that other races are more discriminative to AA’s in the states than Africans. If anything we sympathise for AA’s but it’s also good to acknowledge that life in Africa in comparison to America is very different.
Do you know what it’s like to finally get an opportunity to make something of yourself nor your blood line? Most Africans mind their business because they’ve been given a once in a lifetime opportunity. It’s literally equivalent to brothers getting drafted in the league bro so they ain’t got time for distraction,
I’d also say by nature Africans are quite people who mind their business and I’m sure when certain events in the states happen, AA’s say Africans don’t care nor or are sell outs, where as AA’s forget that Africans don’t have the confidence to speak or stand up, they’d rather keep quite and keep moving. Best way to defeat ignorance is to not pay attention to it
This was probably one of Adonis’ best videos 🔥 . And the guy he interviewed did a great job as well 👏🏾👏🏾
Please introduce these ppl with this POV to the word Ethnogenesis and tell them the definition. Our enthongenesis began 500 years ago when different Africans from different cultures and regions were forced to live together and speak a new language and develop a new culture and eventually blended together. I’d also like to add that the countries these people claim in Africa weren’t even unified countries when we were taken. They would’ve have known what Nigeria, Ghana or any of these counties were because they didn’t even exist yet. How are you Nigerian but I can say I’m American when Nigeria only been a country since 1900?
Also, they need to have their own conversations about who they are because anytime a continent practiced enslavement, been pillaged and ravaged by war for hundreds of years they get moved around also. A-lot of those African ethnicities (or tribes) are not native to the countries they live in now; that’s why they are referred to as SubSaharan now although they all were not native to the subsaharan. Their DNA test are showing these facts too.
I don't see the relevance of the argument that Nigeria wasn't even named as such, or that your lineage in the US goes back 500 years unless you are related to the 2% of Americans of native-American lineage, otherwise you are not native Americans. It matters not that you don't know which part of the African continent your family originally came from, your origins are still from there. What have censuses got to do with that? That is the issue many here have with the claim.
@@OldWolflad it’s relevant because it’s true. Facts don’t care about your opinion or feelings. I think that until people respect this fact then many are going to continue to take an issue. This issue is with them and not the truth of what I’ve said. If people can proudly proclaim pride in belonging to countries in African that were established in the 1800s during the Berlin Conference and that be respected then people should also respect the fact that there are people outside of Africa who descend from multiple distinct African ethnic groups forced together who intermixed over centuries and developed a new shared culture, history, language and genetic admixture. That makes us a new and distinct ethnic group. I’ve taken the DNA test, i can’t claim one group in central or Western Africa because we are a blend of so many. That blend didn’t take place on the continent therefore our African mixture is native to the Americas. This shouldn’t be controversial. 1+1=2
@@tylineburgos8879just because your DnA cannot be traced back to any specific African country doesn’t negate the fact that most black peoples DNa lineage does originate from Africa. Of course over a few centuries people mix and lineage becomes diluted. But it is not a fact that this makes your DNA American.
@@OldWolflad you’re misunderstanding the reason for me bringing up DNA. The mix happened here therefore it’s native to this land.. you’re not gonna give a person a dna test on the continent and get the same mixture because our combo is an american combo. Never once have I said my race was anything but what it is. My ethnicity however does not originate in Africa even if [most of] my ancestors do. What birthed our ethnic group is the transatlatic slave trade and our history in the Americas. Our ethnicity is native to the Americas not to the continent of Africa. This is not to mention the varying degrees of European admixture within the black American community. My grandmothers family is from Virginia and they’re all fair. She has two “black American parents and 4 grandparents and yet her DNA is 49% European because their community was mixed and continued to marry other mixed ppl. There are some in our ethnic group who are more Europeans biologically than African but they’re still black Americans ethnically. That’s not the case with me or every black American, I’m 88% African and there is a wide range amongst us depending on the region. My father’s family is Gullah/geechee and my mom decends from mixed race free ppl of color in Virginia. Our history is our history. Why can’t we simply embrace who we are and how we came to be without being shamed for it or accused of trying to be anything but what we are and who we are… ppl online always project a false shame in being African or of African descent whenever we try to acknowledge our history and culture. There’s no shame or denial but there is a desire to be acknowledged and respected for who we are. Our ethnicity is just as valid as the Yoruba, or the Akan all of whom have an origin story aka ethnogenesis
Just wanted to add some points here about the topic around 15:00. I don't know how it works in Nigeria but in South Africa we can trace our families lineages through decades because surnames came from clan names. Obviously it gets murky the further back you got but so does most history. Also all of Britains colonies helped build and fight for Britian so we did also contribute and not just migrated.
NO RACE IS A MONOLITH - WHITE, BLACK, ASIAN, OR ETC.
White ethnicities: English, Irish, Scottish, Italian, Romanian, German, etc.
Black ethnicities: Black Americans, Aboriginie, Brazilian, Hatians, Jamaicans, etc.
Asian ethnicities: Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Thai, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.
African tribes/ethnicities: Akan, Dahomey, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Somali, etc.
Polynesian ethnicities: Samoan, Tongan, Hawaii, Etc.
Native Americans: Apache, Navajo, Cherokee, Pawnee, etc.
He is amazing I love him, he is one of the smartest people. I love how he tried to understand, while also trying spend his view, but he was kind about it and not cutting anybody off, which is very appreciated
let the man talk. What type of interviewer is this
Best interview I’ve seen in a while !! Intellectual guest !!!!
New York hat, Nike sweater...
No way you claiming clothes
New York is in America soooo....
@donell307 you're dumb. If he was wearing an Adidas sweater, what are gonna say??
New here I love the content great work
Racially I’m black, nationally I’m American, culturally I’m American my ancestors were African. He is racially black nationally British, culturally British, ancestry is Nigerian
if your ancestors are african what countries in africa are they from?
@sonyahathaway9753 well said👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Ur not African
@@testok313 That info is not relevant in this instance. Knowing that they are from Africa is sufficient.
I like how he listened to understand rather than respond/argue. The man from Congo wasn’t really trying to understand and kept interrupting/not answering the questions.
He’s British
U are what raise u
His Nigerian parents raised him. He said it in the video.
I could’ve sworn he said his Nigerian parents raised him.
He is Black British with Nigerian heritage, or British-Nigerian
We straddle two worlds and cultures. We identify with all that we are born from and in us. It's our factual reality and we don't fight it but rather embrace it.
Finally an intelligent conversation
How are you all comparing a country with 67mil people. To a country with 333mil.people? It makes no sense💀
It depends on what you're comparing...
@@BigBlakMan-hr9mb nothing to compare when it comes to who made and started what. And who is copying
@@EV4LS1DE10MAN That makes zero sense
@@BigBlakMan-hr9mbnaw you js slow as hell💀
@@EV4LS1DE10MAN You're just internet babbling...
The only thing I would suggest is mabe letting the person ya interviewing finish their 1st thoughts 🤷🏾♂️
Black Americans are 14 generation's in North America/U.S. - They have multiple ancestry they can Not pinpoint 1 specific group of people or tribes
@funkybluestuff5519 More like 24 generations in the USA. Otherwise, I agree!
I just wanted to share this with you…many of the African American lineages are grouped into larger groups of lineages called haplogroups. Y-DNA haplogroups most commonly found in Africa include A, B and E, as well as subgroups of other haplogroups.
So we can actually go back to where we were taken from in Africa. I’m Charleston, SC apart of the Gullah Geechee culture. Most of our ancestors were descendants of these African communities across the diaspora the have been shown genetic admixtures from Central West Africa, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Bights of Benin & Biafra. So we can go further back even with this information too
Exactly but they seem to think there was nothing before America
Good guy in this video much love From America
He finally got a grown ass man in front of him. This man approaches teens who don’t know shit about the UK or the US to “catch” them for clicks.
@@kizz9391 I have tons of videos with grow men you are just not watching the full videos
That was the best interview I have seen in a while you both had great points which was a good look.
I mean having documents because yall were brought n sold don't make u greater the fact African didnt need papars is the true sign of freedom imo
Africa controls NOTHING on the continent and Europeans and Asians control their economy. European Languages are the OFFICIAL languages of these countries and their names and borders were also created by Europens. And although they outnumber Europeans in the BILLIONS they have been dominanted by them because of greed tribalism and corruption. You need to READ a book cause this asinine fantasy of FREEDOM when their children are losing arms and legs in mines digging for European companies is embarrassingly stupid.
Exactly, why would you need papers to show you are Igbo, Ashanti or Yoruba?
You don't need a document to tell you that you are male or female.
What annoys me is no one would ask a white person who says they're American where are you really from? And some people can't fathom the idea that America is not by default a white country.
And they real mixed up about it. They be like... Uhm German, Irish, I think English
Great job my FBA brother! Great conversation and breakdown of FBA history and culture!
As African from Congo DRC, I can promise y'all only Nigerian and Ghanaian care about black American claim Africa , I don't know cause 1 billion of us in Africa don't care about y'all lineage etc y'all can be wherever you want real African people don't care like Ethiopia, somalia, Morocco etc,, we clearly don't care 🙌👏
@@crazyasse3667You care enough to comment tho. 😂😂
Love This FBA Brotha! ⚫️🔱🔴🇺🇲
Aye frfr Shout out to this Nigerian Brother. Very Cool and Open minded Brother.
I wish the conversation of why the vast majority of AA don't know where there heritage. We not talking about how the enslaved literally stripped our ancestors of their language and culture. AA culture is the culmination of all the Africans who lost their culture from the various tribes (for lack of a better word)
1000% agree. its not like we chose to not know where we come from
@matt52sayow Not to mention, a lot of those islanders were dropped off at those islands before the boat came to America. So what African country are their people from?
This is why I say he chooses uneducated people to have these conversations with. Because anyone with the slightest bit of education would know that during slavery, African countries did not exist. There were empires, kingdoms, territories but no countries. It’s ridiculous to think that a brutally enslaved people would know exactly where they come from in Africa. This is why I find him intellectually dishonest. These conversations should be had with people who are knowledgeable on the subject
African Americans scientifically have a DNA phenotype that is unique. Take me for instance. My DNA is a mixture of Nigerian, Ivory Coast, Cameroon , Mali, Senegal and about 10 percent mixture of European and Scandinavian. Most black Americana have a similar mixture.i have found documented evidence imy ancestors dating back to 1700s in America. This includes the white men on both sides of my family that had children with their likely enslaved women 175 years ago. So when u say “dont know” we know or can fond out to a certain extent
@@n.e9364he said exactly what u just said. I dont understand how he was dishonest. Almost verbatim he said how African countries were arbitrarily drawn and named. Zimbabwe at one time i believe was called Rhodesia after Cecil Rhodea. The notorious British explorer who basically called black people apes incapable of of creating structures like the Great Zimbabwe.
I wouldn't mind seeing y'all sit down and expound on this topic more. Maybe with a visual aide too to help the slow people.
This would be such a great idea what did you like the most from this ?
Beautifully ✅ done. You are making a difference and bringing unity through understanding!
It’s almost as if some black Americans don’t like to be associated with Africa, it’s particularly black Americans, they love the American identity so much, the Chinese just recently traced there origin back to Africa, how much more a black person in America?🤷🏽♂️ carry with you what ever label you want to carry but remember African was born in you, you were not born in Africa ✊🏾
🧐I sometimes feel they would prefer to be labelled Americans instead of African Americans. The only people that can change that are the USA lawmakers !
Tell that to the dark skinned 🇮🇳s
Because we don’t speak any African languages , never been there , don’t eat African food, don’t practice African culture , yes we have African dna but our ancestors were slaves who lived in America since wen so why would I say I’m African ?? I fw yall tho but we are black American which is soulaan we built a culture within America.
@@Antt-u7jI don't speak any African languages either. Depending on where the British guy in the video is from, he may also not speak his parents language.
I do eat food from African countries (Nigeria, Ghana , Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya etc but also , Indian, Chinese, Jamaican etc.
It makes no effect on my DNA though. If I have an ancestry test those countries won't show up unless I have ancestry from there.
If you have ancestry from African countries they will show up in your ancestry results whether you indulge in the food, culture or not.
The US may not, though.
Does it mean your legitimate claim to the country you are in is invalidated, of course not but both are true. Your origin and your current identity.
A White American with German ancestry may say the EXACT same thing as you though.
Why would we we we were told that yall sold us.
Enjoyed this conversation
Thank you so much for your feedback back what was it about this interaction you enjoyed the most ?
Adonis be breaking that shit down with facts and logic. FBA ✊🏿
The best one yet!!!
Africas tribal names and norms are ancient. Adonis stop this tariq nasheed logic
Africa was named Africa by the Romans. You are embarrassing yourself
Huh 😅 I’m familiar with with tariq Nasheed even spoke with him
But this is not his logic
It’s just LOGIC
@@adoniscrashboom but you got that particular talking point from him adonis
@@MEENA-uq3yx what does that have to do with lineage and languages survivng from the beginning? You FBA dudes are deluded.
@@MEENA-uq3yxThe poster could simply mention his/her tribe without saying the continent and you'd know roughly where they are from , their language, their food, their traditions, their traditional dress etc.
They don't even have to say the word "Africa" .
In fact that word alone tells you very little.
If you say Ashanti, Ewe, Zulu, Xhosa, Yoruba, Igbo, Fulani.....You've already been told a whole lot about that person's heritage and culture.
White people did not come up with those names/titles. Which I think was the point being made.
Great interview 😁
One thing I would like you to do is let ppl talk instead over talking them. But I like what you do
It’s very easy to let people talk
But as a host it my job to keep people on the topic
In this video you might not notice it so easy
But I had to round back 3 times to stay on topic
We kept jumping down the rabbit hole 😅😅😅
@@adoniscrashboom Just let them finish their initial thoughts without interjecting.