Historicon 2021 Convention Recap
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2021
- Historicon 2021, held November 10-14, is now officially in the history books! So what was the first HMGS convention in nearly two years like? Our club hosted lots of game sessions this weekend and took plenty of video of the event. We're excited to bring you a full recap of the show, including highlights of our favorite games, old grognard gripes about the venue, and interviews with attendees.
Any grumbling aside, we had a blast this weekend and the gamers who attended were clearly excited to be back to in-person events. The crowd was light for an average Historicon but very much on par with a typical Fall In show. The vendor hall was surprisingly full and the HMGS volunteers did a great job all weekend long. If you missed Historicon 2021, check out our full recap for details!
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Thanks for the kind words about my Dad's Rorke's Drift game! He has been working on it for two years (was supposed to debut at Historicon last year). British won first game on Friday and Zulus managed to win the second game on Saturday!
Woul love to see an AAR on the Zulu win and how they managed that!
@@billmasters385 was a combination of bad luck by the British and good leadership by Zulus.
Zulu players focused all their forces on one side of the table and overwhelmed British around the hospital. British were not quick enough to react to bring more forces over from the store house and the kraal.
I loved your dad's attention to detail and took plenty of photos of his game terrain. Definitely one of the top games in this year's Historicon!
@@HardingWE Excellent. I really enjoyed hearing how the Zulus could have prevailed. It really demonstrates just how masterful and lucky the British soldiers were that day. That table design was awesome as well in the pics that I saw.
This was my first historicon, I just passed the bar and went with my dad. It was an amazing time so many awesome looking games that inspired me to finish my Punic wars armies and play some age of Hannibal. My favorite game was the siege of maiden hill. Romans vs Brits on an amazing table with two great gamemasters who helped my dad and I have a blast trying to take the fort
Great to hear! Conventions are an ideal place to find inspiration and motivation, as you get to see all the hard work other players invested to build their boards. I always come away inspired and excited to get back to my painting bench and return to old projects.
Sorry but do you mean Maiden Castle just outside Dorchester in Southern England? I am looking at it now through my kitchen window. Small world eh?
This Historicon was absolutely everything I was expecting and then some. Such a wide and varied collection of games of all types. As an absolute newcomer to wargaming it left an incredible impression, and I will admit that the Vietnam games put on by Tom and Ed may have turned me onto collecting my first miniatures ever. It was great to meet some of the LWTV guys there, and I'll remain hopeful to attend an HMGS event again sometime next year.
This was my first Historicon ever, and I had an absolute blast. It had an energy completely unlike any other gaming convention that I've ever been to. The concept of games run for people who are new to the game was so refreshing, I signed up for 5 different games that I had never played, and had great gaming experiences and great social experiences at each table. Definitely coming back and bringing my friends.
That is awesome to hear! We met quite a few gamers who were attending their first HMGS event. Glad to hear you had a blast and will be back! Our guys have been attending these shows for 10+ years as a club and still enjoy them.
I played in Mile's Stalingrad game. It was a blast, hopefully I can get my hands on the rules and cards.
Holy crap, when did you guys hit 40k subs? I could have sworn you were lower, but I'm glad to be wrong! Some day I'll get into wargaming myself, but for now I'll just have to live vicariously through you guys!
That Leonardo Da Vinci gametable. I spotted that round tank - must have in something so whimsical. Looked super fun.
It was great to finally see you guys in person and have a chance to game you yall. On top of that meeting the Little Warriors (The little wars tv patrons) was amazing. The community that was built by you guys is amazing. It didn't feel like I was meeting everyone for the first time, it felt like meeting up with friends you haven't seen in a while.
Also I think the favorite game I participated in is a tie between Tom's Charlie Company game and Miles' Stalingrad game. Both had me very impressed. Hope y'all enjoyed my gift to y'all! Cheers!
SBG
Well met, sir, well met
Tony Marano right back at you Tony. Believe it or not the Agincourt game was the first video I’ve seen from you guys and watching you sit in that muddy fields and discuss the long bow intrigued me enough to jump in to your channel and see what everything was about. One last thing, it’s absolutely amazing when you get to meet the people you look up to in the hobby and they’re not complete assholes. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me and just being a good guy all around.
@@Blueqoose The pleasure was all mine sir. I enjoyed getting the chance to meet.
@@Blueqoose Hopefully we'll see you at Historicon this summer
Definitely a great weekend! Some of those tables were beyond what we expected. Can't wait until the 2022 convention.
Great video chaps, it's always good to see how you guys on the other side of the pond run conventions.
Enjoyed your Salute recap! Funny how three major shows all happened the exact same weekend--Salute, HCON, and Millennium Con in Texas. I haven't yet seen a video report on that last show but would like to!
@@LittleWarsTV Thank you! Yeah, I guess it was cos most places have lifted most of their Covid restrictions for now and there was a rush for people to actually meet up again! Salute was the third show I've been to in the last few weeks and there are more coming before the year is out.
I was one of the Zulu commanders in that game, I am in the red shirt in the video - look mom I am on TV! What an awesome game, very well done. Although I am a bit biased being a member of Lard America!
Greg, I agree with your comment regarding HMGS spreading their geographic footprint to Northern Virginia. I spoke to Doug Kline of BCT (Battlefield Terrain Concepts)
and he mentioned that quite a few more vendors and customers from the Southeast US would attend HMGS conventions (eg. Historicon) if they were held in a more centrally located venue. PS. Thanks for replying to my question regarding basing for 6mm ACW. Happy Holidays to you and the LWTV Club!
Great video and con. Loved finally meeting some of you guys. Keep up the awesome work.
It was really cool to meet so many online friends in person, putting a face to the usernames!
The Roman Chariot Race Saturday night i never almost fell out of my chair laughing while gaming EVER it was So Much Fun!
Ah I wish I'd been a part of that one!
Great variety of games. Hope to make the next one, depending on a return to regular scheduling. (Understandable that all the cons were postponed until later this year, but they all piled up together, many on the same weekend)
Had a great time a Historicon 2021 and Dream Pod 9 will be back for 2022. :-)
Aw man, I think I missed the Lardy room. I did catch Miles' explanation of his Stalingrad game. I was helping to TO the Firelock stuff down by the Phalanx booth, but I heard about the Stalingrad game from folks wandering by.
The venue really did suck. You guys were in a completely separate building, with your own registration - I hardly saw anyone. Do agree with Miles too - running those tournaments with a mask in a crowded room, my voice was shot by Day 2.
I look forward to the interviews and the rest of your recap coming up.
Great to see guys, finally getting back to normal, thank you🙏🏻
There was a collective sigh of relief palpable from just about everyone there....
Super glad to see in person stuff starting up again. Was pretty disappointed when Autumn Wars got cancelled this year. Hoping I can finally go to my first convention at Little Wars 2022.
Greg has more medals than a Soviet Fieldmarshal
Absolutely wonderful to see so much hobby activity from our friends across the ocean.
Lots of people spending time, helping charities and having a great time.
Quite a contrast from the advance impression on another hobby forum; over 800 mostly negative opinions (or 800 posts from 5 negative individuals).
Keep up the good work showing off the best of our hobby.
It's heartening to see people having fun, and some fine charitable work along the way.
Here's to an even better 2022.
Glad all of you were able to go. Looking forward to all of the videos. As for me, maybe next year. 😎
It was great getting back to a convention and playing games again. I was fortunate enough to get into Tom and Ed's Vietnam game on Saturday, it was fantastic!
Nice coverage as usual. Great quality.
Much appreciated!
It was awesome meeting you, guys! See you next time!
Very Cool! I am quite pleased that so many gamers showed up. Hopefully, our West Coast events will come back as well. Thanks for the info and inspiration, Little Wars TV.
I live close enough to this now that I can start going! Just moved to MD. Super excited for next time
Also I will never understand the pushback for mask wearing?
A nice overview of proceedings. Some very nice games and terrain. As I said on the Patreon page, the aquatic game looked superb
Great recap. Love to see more on that Team Yankee game.
I attended this weekend and I agree the set up bring as spread out as it was was a mixed blessing. I was there mainly for the Battle Front WW3 Team Yankee and Flames of War tournament. Luckily these were right by the vendors hall and flea market area. This however did dissuade me from visiting the other areas much more often than I would have liked. Hopefully future events will allow closer quarters. All told it was a win and it was great to be back in the gaming convention saddle.
Looks fun! Love your content! Joined you on Patreon. Hope you have some West Coast events!
Looks Amazing!!!! Love Team Yankee
Awesome!
hey i’m in there 😂 it was a blast returning after 7 yrs!
great show thanks
Thank you MIles, The location was terrible. Hotel needed to do more for the crowd that was there. Thanks to Little wars for the games, the meet up and the rules.
The location of this venue is quite good--right on the I-95 corridor, easily accessible to the turnpike, a major airport, and multiple highways. It makes a lot of geographic sense for accessibility...but yes, sadly the venue itself left much to be desired. If you're going to be at a 3+ day event, you want some walkable food options!
It is located 5 minutes from a PA Turnpike exit.
That is the opposite of 'terrible'.
The hotel layout...the walking back and forth was terrible.
Yes....grind that axe.
The amenities were poor.
@@LittleWarsTV Physical location was good, the venue and the way that they handled things were awful. in that sense the "location" was not good.
@@Kevin_Kennelly see my response to Little wars.
Glad you guys were able to do that. Can’t wait until their are no restrictions, so I can be there myself.
Very nice video, sadly I was unable to attend but it was so nice to see so many friends gaming in the video.
We'll catch you there next time, Bill!
A bunch of us from southern Ontario wanted to come but it was not practical with COVID restrictions. I held CONsolationCON in my house as a sop. Fun but not in the same league and no opportunity to spend money on figures I'll never get around to painting.
Hi Mike, I agree. Up to almost the last minute the US government wasn’t accepting of mixed vaccinations. But I’ll say Hi to you at Hotlead ‘22.
you guys are great
Looks like you guys had a lot of fun. I earnestly anticipate seeing more about that Leonardo da Vinci game, looks awesome. Also, the Punic Wars series, for Peons like myself who cannot support your Patreon. Cheers.
News about the Pyrrhic War series will be forthcoming soon!
I hope to go to something like this in the future.
First went to Historicon in 1995. Lord I miss it, haven't been back since 1998
My little slice of sanity.
I've been attending conventions since 1964 and the Essex Hotel in Philadelphia. I have to agree that this location isn't the best (although convenient for me). I didn't get to see many of the games due to their being so spread out. I felt that this year's convention was better than some in the resent past. But, it still was a little disappointing. Some major vendors were missing, sure I order a lot of my hobby items on line, but I like to see the stuff before I order.
Thanks for the rule set. Getting that just get me to do a game of Vikings vs. Native Americans.
Keep up the good work.
Awesome! One day, one day….
look's Fantastic with lot's of people attending and enjoying the show, I've seen some footage of this year's Salute held on the 13th, and it looked empty, maybe in the end it was a bad idea to have
Salute due to Covid and should have been put back till next year
Great update guys, maybe get across the pond one day :-)
It could happen
Love the video content and you guys sharing your experiences and insight on the convention. So where do you think the possible alternatives for next years event will be?
For Historicon next summer the venue will be the downtown Lancaster PA Marriott, an absolutely AWESOME venue that is truly fantastic. Fall In, a year from now, will likely be back at the Valley Forge Casino, though it sounds like HMGS is reconsidering their future options at this site. The problem is that they don't have a lot of good venue options for places that can handle a couple thousand people with the kind of table/space needs we have. If the shows were smaller (like 500-600) their would be tons of options. And if the shows were larger (5k+) they could afford some of the bigger, pricier East Coast venues. But we are in a tough middle ground for HMGS to balance size/space/cost requirements.
Loved to be back gaming with friends I have not seen for year, played mostly CY6 but checked out other games. Donno what the issue is for LW with the venue. Yes, staffing shortages, like everywhere. Walked around like everybody else, no problems. Certainly, beats walking around half dug construction site at the Host where some people actually got hurt. Food issues? Not at all- Italian, Chinese and Dunkin on premises, also pricey chop house and hot dogs at entrance. I stayed off site and very nice hotel with breakfast, so no food issues at all. Would like to return to this venue, as my group of gaming buddies also had no issues. Good luck with Ocean City, MD, Nobody I know is going there for CW.
Hard to pick a favorite game. Peter Landry's WoG games are always a super fun time. Peter Panzeri's extravaganzas are great, and Eben Emael was fantastic. The Triumph Marathon game by Rod Cain was excellent. I honestly didn't have a bad game all weekend. This was my first "Historicon" as i usually attend Fall In. Great video recap. Face to face gaming was great. So when is the next con?
When the Leonardo da Vinci game is being shown, we hear background music. Is that the same music from the TH-cam show "Tasting History" with Max Miller?
No idea! It's a free track from TH-cam Audio Library, and I think it was called Baroque Coffee House? Maybe they use the same free track. Music options are always limited on TH-cam if you want to be safe and not trip the content ID match for using copywritten material.
I haven't been there since the changes but the one time they had it here years ago I thought it was the best location. I preferred it over all the others.
Amazing looking games. Funny story, I remember taking a trip to America years ago and managed to time it with historicon. If I remember correctly it was across two sites and I couldn’t believe how angry the Americans got that they had to walk about 200 yrds between the venues and were demanding transport.
One of the games you mentioned you would be running was a game on the War of Attrition. How did that one go, and do you have any footage of that one? As an Israeli, I'm very curious.
I think constraints of real life meant that Dave wound up running the Iran-Iraq war scenario twice as he didn't feel he had adequate prep time to do the other scenario justice
Was my first historicon, I really loved finally seeing games in real life! My autistic little brother came along and did get hassled by the mask patrol, though
I went to a Historicon at that venue years ago, and it basically chased me away.
It stinks I could not go because my wheel chair pusher could not make it and that venue is tough for me had a hell of fall and still in my head.
Perhaps a time traveling Allarus Terminator from the far future goes back in time to retrieve an ancient artifact to save the Imperium. The Allarus Terminator would be able to one shot Vietnam era Tanks with its Castellan Axe if it get too close.
That would be an interesting game 😁
Men with beer and gaming. What is not to love?
Wish I could have gone but I had to build a playset in the backyard for my daughter's birthday. Maybe next year 🤷♂️. Are you guys gonna be at #PAXUNPLUGGED in December?
We aren't there in an official club capacity, but at least a few guys from our club are planning to attend, yes!
@@LittleWarsTV Maybe we'll see you:-)
anyone got info on that paleo game. i need to read that lol. even a full name maybe?
It takes me 25 minutes to get from my driveway to the Valley Forge Con Center.
That being said, the 'walking back and forth' makes me long for the Lanc Host.
You can blame HMGS for the layout of that place.
I think HMGS would have been happy to return to the Lancaster Host for shows, but after the completion of what felt like a decade-long renovation, the Host jacked their event rates way up. The Host is fairly choppy as well (with a long walk to the dealer hall) but I think the veterans are at least more familiar with it.
Looks fun. I’ll have to talk my wife into going one day haha
If she's not a gamer my advice would be Historicon 2022. The hotel is very nice & the neighborhood is full of boutiques, bookstores, restaurants, galleries
Oh man,I want to get into Sharp Practice.
A very fun game. One of our favorite Lardy game systems.
I think this is the first time where you brought an interview where Firelock Games was mentioned. You guys are missing out on some great historical gaming systems from them.
2019 @ Historicon we talked with them & gave away a copy of Blood & Plunder. Hard to believe it's been that long since we've had Cons.
We are certainly familiar with them and multiple guys in the club own stuff for Blood & Plunder. Firelock is one of the best US-based historical gaming companies out there right now, no question.
Wait discord yall got discord?
We do! We have a very active private server for our patrons!
Never have an event at that space again it sucks
This is one of the few things that suck about Alaska, can’t easily get to gaming conventions
Great intro for LWTV. One thing that was painfully obvious, the HWG hobby is seriously skewed towards fat old white dudes. As a fat old white dude, I would love to see expansion and inclusion of more youthful players. players of colour, and female players. Diversity can only improve the long term success of the hobby.
I lived Vietfuckinnam. Pass on the game.
I want to see a star wars and lord of the rings.
Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg, Fredericksburrrrrrrrrg!
Go back to Fredericksburg please HMGS
It certainly had some advantages, though we can't pretend that Fredericksburg was ideal either. Every location seems to come with compromises, but that's just how it is. I do think HMGS would be wise to spread out their footprint to a wider geographic area, including northern VA.
Great video. Are Josh and Tony drinking Mimosas?? How gay! "Not that there's anything wrong with that"!!
Firstly, mimosas are awesome. Secondly, that's actually a beer one of our patrons brought us to try. The only thing we had to use for glassware were leftover plastic champagne flutes from our patron reception on Friday night!
@@LittleWarsTV LOL! I stand corrected! And yes.......Mimosas are awesome.
Love your channel...you lost me though with agreeing with the mask mandate. SORRY. Mandatory NO...Voluntary YES.
Glad they had yous wear masks.
Not everyone felt that way, but the organizers of the show were in a tough spot. No matter what they decided, people were going to be upset. There are other conventions here in the US requiring proof of vaccination (PAX Unplugged, a huge board game show, for example), so the masks seemed like a fairly low bar by comparison.
@@LittleWarsTV i just don't want none of yous to get sick you know? If you guys go down what am I gonna watch in TH-cam? Lol
That's a lot of grey hairs and bald heads among the attendees. For all the talk of if historical wargaming is dying out or not, that's a worry to see.
The membership of HMGS definitely leans older, even by historical wargaming standards.
Hey, hey, hey... I resemble that remark 😉
I hope someday to go to one, but as long as masks are involved, well. I can't breathe in those. So I guess that lets me out.
No, masks being required was NOT the right decision, and that is testified to by the fact that all four of you are sitting there talking sans masks. Why? They aren't necessary.