(Late Game Runes) NB12 CRACKED - Consistent, Stable, 53 Sec Average! : Summoners War
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video me I'll walk you through the theorycraft and rune requirements of my NB12 team. This team has not failed once in 6 hours of consistent farming, and has only gone over 1m 10s three times. Artifacts will also help to speed this time up as well (I have none yet).
Most runs are in the 50-59 second range, and the best time is 42sec so far :) This will be the last NB10 video for a while - I'll try to find a more mid-game ready team next week.
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I'm glad there's a disclaimer late game runes.
I honestly think this team will be attainable for a lot of people in a month or two. I'm probably overkilling it a little bit (or maybe a lot!). I haven't really tested for a bottom. With a while of farming B12s at 100% 6* drop rate, along with artifacts, and what is "end-game" will be very different a month from now :p
@@XennialGamer Yup I agree. with the new b12 6* only drops and the artefact. it will be a lot easier in the future. Keep up the good content, XG!
Love you vids. The amount of details that you put into them makes a difference.
Thank you Chris, I sincerely appreciate this comment!
Nice XG! I subbed Deva in for 2nd Shaina (i don't have 2 Shainas built) and it works, ~ 1:15 - 1:40. Shaina on swift to set up def breaks for rest of team. Does fail from time to time (still need to grind some runes).
Nice, really glad it worked!! :) You might try subbing in a Colleen over the Deva. I suspect you'd have about the same time range but with no fails for now, and then when you get the runes boosted (or build a 2nd shaina) you can swap back for the faster runs.
Wow great minds think alike! First few mins it’s the same as what I was doing on stream. Hehe nice. Full credit to you I didn’t think of the second shaina over deva. Prob because I didn’t want to mess with my main shaina.
Hahaha not surprising at all! :P I did test a heavy Julie team before this one also, but it was too inconsistent. You can trigger the AI and clear waves quickly, but couldn't defense break the boss reliably enough
would be interesting to see your db12 team!
Db12 , atleast for me , seems to be by far the most difficult one of the new b12s.
Yeah I focused on NB12 first because I had no mana, and I needed to farm quickly haha. I'm going to hopefully work on a DB12 team tomorrow. Looks like I have to buy ALL the frr tickets :(
I just subscribed to you. I wasn't subscribed and I have been getting your video notifications for a week now. So I figured it was a sign. Good video!
Haha that's awesome man, thanks for subscribing and for the comment! :) I appreciate it!
hello XG.. thanks again for the video.. since Im stuck on this level, now I can find the best solution.. I'm pretty sure I will pass this time..
tumbs up XG 👍
Glad I could help Bobby, good luck making the team! :)
The artifact substat that increases damage by attacking together will probably be huge for teams like this. Excited to see to what degree rune requirements will be mitigated by artifacts in perhaps only a month or two!
100% agreed. Crit damage boosts for skill 1/2 also will make a big difference! I got an artifact with 11% CD on S1, and 7% CD on S2 on my Raoq now. Only the 2nd artifact on the team, the average seems ot have sped up by about 2 seconds, and I don't think it's gone over a minute since I put on the artifact.
Thanks for the team. I replaced one shaina with Martina and it works perfekt. Thanks :)
Woot that's awesome man, really glad it helped!! :)
Thanks for the vid! inspired by your team and currently im bringing shaina sabrina two talias and raoq, average 1 min, 98% success rate. Do you think bringing one more shaina would make the team more stable?
Btw look forward to your other dungeon teams!
Heya GQ, yes I was running your team for a while, and the change to a second shaina over the second talia brought me to 99.9% success rate and also faster runs :). I think I can still speed the team up further too if I invest different runes. The team I am running now is very high rune "quality" but I am not using any of my own best runes, nor am I using any violet - either of those changes would speed it up opn average.
Adding a second Shaina instead of Kro made my team very consistent. I also use at least 75K effective HP on each twin. Having 2 shield sets on the team is also a great way to get to the boss with full HP on the team.
This is awesome to hear, thanks for sharing Joe!!! :)
I don’t have max towers nor do I have really good runes, i tried your team but failed sometimes, so im using Talia (L), Sabrina, Shaina, Raoq, Colleen and it works pretty much like your last team! Still need to do some r5 and get more hp and damage on runes to make it stable, but works! Eventually I’ll try my second Talia for Colleen!
That's awesome bro, glad you were able to make it work with the Colleen!! :)
I love the disclaimer. Thats how you put title. Thank you!
Very welcome :) I do think most mid-gamers can reach this team within a month or two if they're farming B12s regularly, the rune drops are just so insane. Even on slower runs (which works out well, you spend fewer crystals for more good runes and more mana).
@@XennialGamer i agree b12 is really good. Although my runs are not fast like yours. Still managed to get those legend runes. Ill save all of your videos when i have enough rune to run your team. Thank you again.
Shaina, Sabrina, Thalia, Raoq and HWAHEE does it for me.. I'm a mid player and I need sustain.. Plus, hwahee multi hit helps a lot on the main boss
Ahh nice yeah, Hwahee making a comeback into the meta!! hehehe Glad it's working for you, makes sense :)
Pc10 and sf10: you are out of this meta you have no use anymore
Nb12: that's a lie you can still speed whoop me, your owners won't make you puke your devilmons
Twins: yey
Wow really like your contents it makes sense watching you hehehehe been an avid fan and watcher ;) hehehehe and is the dark homun good in the new dungeons?
Thank you!! I really appreciate that :) Unfortunately my Dark Homunculus is not skilled. I think it MAY have some uses - but I am not some of the people who can test those uses hehe
Content is idol... No doubts.. great lots of options helps a lot.. variety of teams...
Only difference is u don't give boss a turn and in my runs boss don't give me either too if I miss once😅😂😁🤪🤣 ...
Rune quality bro rune quality
But I cleared the NB 12 not close to ur time as above I mentioned rune quality bro.... Hahahaha 😅😆🤣
No complains u r after all Professor X ... Only one question bro my speed tower is 9 ..what speed should I put in my units total of 150 minimum or 180.... Great showcase...well explained... Enjoying learning from Pro's... Thanx & congrats....
Really appreciate your support Garv! :) WIth level 9 speed tower you'd need 155speed on Talia I believe instead of 153.
thanks man i put all on violent works great ;))
Woot niiice! Yeah I figured all vio would work too, but I was being stingy and trying to save my vio for my PVE units haha. I'm so mana poor right now I expect to be farming NB12 mostly for the next cpl of months at least (faster runs, more mana per run)
@@XennialGamer Yeah, here is a little update. I am running Shaina, Deva, Raoq, Sabrina, Talia(L) in this order with two shield sets on Raoq, Sabrina and the other three have revenge runes (+all vio). I did at least 200 runs with only one fail. The fastest run was 43sec, the slowest 1:10 min, avg: 53,85sec. So i think thats pretty decent. Thanks again for your Team and hopefully u get good runes. :-)
@@janada1933 Wow that's awesome, and I really appreciate the update! Seems like we're nearly identical in fastest and average :). I did actually have my first fail today, but it was probably over 1000 runs by then. I can live with 1 in 1000 hehehe.
sick stuff
@Xennial Gaming , the damage you are missing from the roaq can also be archieved by giving the shainas a tiny bit more damage right ? Like it is easier in getting a bit more damage on the weaker monsters by even just using a diffrent set than revenge or something
In theory I could get it from the second shaina (not the first). But I don't really think I need it - as soon as I have a chance to farm artifacts, I don't even need decent substats. All I need is an artifact with +100 atk and it should be enough hehe
Just one thing to note the shainas are prob doing damage when raoq teams up and also when Sabrina pulls them on her turn. Cutting corners on them is possible but prob not ideal.
100% true :) But I'm figuring that Talia will clean up the mid-boss either way, so it's just some occasional fluff damage on the boss (unless you run the Raoq in vio, then it could matter more)
you can replace one of the Shainas with a fran and you still will get sub 1 min . What it's differece NB12 from NB10 is that the mid boss has more speed , and the aoe does more damge so you need more tankness
You'll hit best times of 1 minute for those who can't match the rune quality for sure!!! :) But the average will be 20-30 seconds slower overall
Well I guess it is time for me to finally go back to dragons to farm some runes, the rune requirements do seem high but seems super achievable with the better rune drop rate.
Hehehe - good luck bro. I'm also positive it can be run with lower quality runes, especially on the Shainas. I just don't know "how much lower" so I posted it as a late game team.
I use a team in the order Julie Shaina (L) Raoq Sabrina Talia. Get Julie to reduce crystals to less than 30%, Shaina perfect AI AOE, Raoq clears golems. Consistent 45-55 times.
Hmm very interesting, that was the exact team I tested before I came up with this one lol, but it was inconsistent for me. I kept getting stuck on the boss when Sabrina missed defense break, and it would turn into long runs or fails
2 shainas is the key to this run. the def break is consistent
Exactly :)
@@XennialGamer nice team. my team instead of 2nd shaina i use the light chak for dots and def break. but still shainas then best def breaker here.
thanks you reun
i'm running exactly the same team becouse that was my team for nb 10 and on nb 12 it works for me like 99% win ratio so you don't need late game runes with that high quality but if you lacking some dmg you can always put same artifacts
but i'm running 4x vio set and 1 of my shaina is 3x shield set
That's actually really useful info - and kinda funny you had this team down already! :) What is your average time? Does rune quality affect run speed?
(I honestly assume that this team can be done by a lot of people with lower rune quality - but I get hit in comments a lot when I show high quality runes, and since I hadn't tested down I just decided to call this one late game hehe)
Xennial what about a second 2A Raoq instead of the second shaina? Or would we miss multihits on the bossstage?
I tested with the second 2a Raoq actually :p It failed on both tests LOL
@@XennialGamer Ah ok then i wont bother testing it by myself :) testing the team so far with 2 shield sets because i dont have the tank stats on my mons and only one revenge set on shaina and works like a charm 20 Runs in and no fail so far; averages around 56 seconds by now so happy :-)
@@joshuawatjen8863 Woot so happy to hear that, there's literally no better feedback I can hear then this! :)
Nice... I'm jealous :)
NOTICE ME SENPAI! you really gotta pick up some trash artifacts to just get the flat atk bonus, this really matters! I got my quad twin+lushen team working with this strategy :) (downside:for now, just on necropolis) :(
Oh i forgot this info: my lushen cant clear the wave, he doesnt have artifacts jet, but it works on 50~85seconds!
Hehe I'm working on it. I did two 7 hours streams since the update started, and I've been working on getting out teams for content, so I fell a bit behind :p But I got both of my PC and SF speed teams set up last night. Now I just need mana to actually enchant them :p Artifacts definitely fail at a higher rate than runes - it's taking me like 800k mana to +12 each
Do you think swap one shaina with abigail non awaken will destroy boss shield faster ?
I think that team would be much less consistent, though it might work. When Abigail derps or has her S2 on cooldown, she does the same 3 hits as Shaina - but then you lose all the benefits that Shaina has on the waves. In theory, a perfect run with Abigail might be a faster top time, but the overall average would probably be noticeably slower. I'd actually go with Deva over Abigail. (Side note: on NB10 I tested both Abigail and Shihwa for months, and Shihwa is also about 2 seconds per run average faster, because of the branding, and better turn cycling of her skills)
@@XennialGamer thank you for the explanation, i tested run it with abigail because she is the i got now, not have second shaina or raoq (put her on crappy fight runes).
And she did it , best time 51 sec , longest 1min 15 sec 😁
@@hendriho3468 Oh wow, that's awesome Hendri!!! Really glad you got a fast team set up now!! Thanks for letting me know :)
Question instead of raq could you replace him with kro?
I don't think so. Raoq's AI is "perfect" he will always use his teamup when it's available, which helps turn cycle a lot. He's also more reliable damage - Kro may not do much because he scales to debuffs.
I'm running shaina,roaq,sabrina,talia and colleen fastest time is 1:02 with the longest being about 1:35.. tried adding another dd in place of colleen but couldnt make it work, one kept dying.
In a few weeks of farming non-stop 6* drops (plus artifacts) you might be able to swap out the DD. For now, 1m 15s average seems pretty good :)
I can't even get a dam Shaina n a maruna to summon
Ooof that hurts man, I'm sorry :( I hope you get the Shaina soon. Maruna too, but Shaina is far better!
@@XennialGamer yea i hope the first one i get is shaina also
Its faster than my nb 10 team xD
Hehehehe
hey i met you before :D
Hmmm. I'm very curious when/where. But if you mean RL, I'd rather not discuss it in comments either haha. Are you in our Discord server? discord.gg/zNxXDB8
u r talking on many stream u know
i got 32 sec necro b12 team:)
Niiiice!! What's the team? :p
Would this work with double shaina, sabrina, bailey or Maruna?
So I don't think it would work with Maruna, just not enough damage on the boss. Bailey is intriguing though. I don't have her, so I can't really say for sure. But her turn cycling and damage is legit. It seems worth testing if they give us another FRR on Saturday. In this situation, you'll have Bailey go third, Sabrina 4th and Raoq 5th (or possibly Baily second and move the second Shaina to third).
No promises here, really not sure of Bailey's damage output - but it seems like you'd clear waves faster than me at least, so it's just a question of if you can kill the boss fast enough.
@@XennialGamer thank you for the response. I will give it a try!
@@jerrid1983 Good luck!
would this team work with eirgar instead of the colleen in the last team you suggested or is the vampire not as strong as the heals from colleen?
Interesting question. I'm thinking the colleen heal will matter more - if you swap out the Talia you're basically planning for a slower fight. At that point, the colleen's lower cooldown will matter (that's why I didn't suggest Fran also)
@@XennialGamer Makes sense, thanx
u skilled raoq with devils?
I actually skilled him by farming skillups. AND I did it before they lowered the number of skillups required haha. I probably should've been rune farming, but I'm always so short on devils. Worked out, since I got a refund in devils :p
My 2nd Raoq though, I will skill up with devils. I just need to finish skilling up Pungbaek first.
Like by advertising late game runes
Can I run talia (L) Shaina Raoq Raoq sabrina?
Heya 0bu, I tested this team. It will work, but it wasn't 100% for me. The problem is that you only have 4 guaranteed hits before Shaina's turn, or 7 guaranteed hits before Talia's turn. It can be more with Raoq's RNG (scratch) or Team-up, but there will be runs where you don;t break boss's shield before Talia goes. On those runs, Talia can waste her deadly dance and do effectively 0 damage, and you'll wipe.
You can switch up the turn order btw (shaina -> sabrina -> raoq -> raoq -> talia) and you'll have 7 guaranteed hits before the second Raoq. But the waves will be slower, and Raoq's defense break activation of 80% before accuracy check will still result in fails
@@XennialGamer okay thx❤
Too late game for me :(
I have one of the oldest accts and over 100, 6 star highly coveted monsters. After years and years of grinding, my marriage kids and job don’t allow me time needed. Trying to sell acct but not sure how.
Sorry Robert, I'm really not sure. I've seen Jewbagel mention account sales in videos before. I don't have the connections he does hehe. Maybe try reaching out to him.
Xennial Gaming
Thanks for the response, I messaged on one of his videos. I downloaded game the month it came out and want someone to carry on. Your videos are great and helpful.
@@robertbegeal3894 I am sure I know people who'd be excited to HAVE the account. I just don't know how you'd go about selling it. I suspect it's a violation of Com2Us terms of service. Not sure. But if yuo decide you just wanted to give it away, I might be able to help with that. Could even do like a giveaway on stream and give you public recognition or something like that.
I'm definitely NOT asking you to do this or pushing for it btw. You put in 6 years :) I'm just mainly mentioning it because you said you'd like to see the account live on.
First I think
got a better team :/
Then Shar wit withe the world friend:)
Its the easiest dungeon among all
Yeah that's why I focused here first. The mana pain is real, and this was the easiest dungeon to get up a speed team on - it also gives the most mana. That's going to be important as we enchant artifacts ;)
@@XennialGamer true 👍😊
Late game premium runes to farm on 53secs? Think of all the "mortals"... Lots of players are leaving the game after this last update... my guild is g2 and we lost 4 already... Com2Us should nerf all dungeons otherwise I predict this game will be dead once and for all.
To be honest I feel like people are over reacting a bit. B10's also have a higher legendary drop rate and are no harder than they were before. Artifacts will take some time to farm but make everything easier in time, and the higher drop rates will also make everything easier to farm. If the new dungeons were "easy" to speed run today, they'd be pitifully easy a month from now when all of us have significantly better rune quality AND artifacts.
53 seconds for this team is about 18 seconds slower than my B10 - so I am now spending less crystals to recharge, and the rune drop rate is absolutely bonkers. The quality of runes that I'm selling now is like 10x higher than it was a week ago, simply because if I tried to roll every rune that seemed like it had potential, I'd be rolling every rune...