Dagger Duchess is, in my opinion, the worst thing that has happened to Clash Royale. She used to simply DENY half of the win conditions to the point that the META deck consisted on damaging the enemy tower without even crossing the bridge. Absolutely awful.
Actually there were two kind of decks, Giant/Lava spam (the only weakness of duchess) and some princess deck with rocket since dagger duchess couldn't do anything about these cards, same for xbow but giant is counter of xbow so xbow wasn't very popular.
Yeah she was such a toxic and pay to win card man. Really sucked. I didn’t even get to use her coz I only had her at lvl 10, so imagine how annoying it was for me to play in April 2024…
The thing is: every new tower troop is just gonna ruin the game until it gets nerfed Whenever a new tower troop comes out it'll be overpowered, and if a TOWER TROOP is overpowered it means it's a lot easier to defend, which means the game is gonna be a stalematey defensive hell that only becomes playable once double elixir starts and you can spam the cards that actually get through that tower troop
close, but I'm on the fence about it. Giant Poison and Phoenix were both horrible metas, changing their order in the vid makes complete sense, actually the only reason I put giant poison at the end was so that we would end on a nice nostalgic revisit to the past, it was a good way to end the video on something that OG players can relate to. But yes, phoenix was equally damaging.
@@epsilonclash I've watched videos about the Phoenix release meta and the night witch meta... But I still think the meta right after dagger duchess: 💀💀💀
A while ago, I saw a video of Orange Juice explaining how to use the executioner . Well, I know that the video is almost 7 and a half years old. I went in and started scrolling through the comments. I saw someone say in a comment 7 years ago that the Supercell strategy is clear. They add new super powerful forces, then people pay money for them, and after some days they do Nerf 😂 My brother actually predicted the future.
lol thats true, in fact, while researching for this video I kid you not, there was a video from ClashWithAsh where he made a skit about how CR releases broken cards 'by accident' sarcastically and talks about how they made the ghost op on purpose.
Allegations of them making broken braindead cards on porpuse have always existed, but I think they only started making them busted on porpuse Phoenix Monk and onwards. Maybe October 2019 was on purpose too but I'm not too sure, and while I'm sure they wanted champions on release to be really strong I'm pretty confident that archer queen wasn't meant to be THAT overpowered (like I bet they wanted all the champions to be about equally as good so everyone would spend money on all of them and not only on one at a time)
I don't really know if you can count the goblin machine thing as a meta as it only lasted for like 2-3 days, but it was definitely the darkest days Clash Royale has ever seen.
The slow effect on the Poison during the Goison era was also a lot more potent. Not only the effect itself was stronger, but it also affected attack speed (and spawn speed), while nowadays, it only affects movement speed.
yep. in fact, when they removed the slowdown of poison in late 2016 and kept its stats pretty similar, it actually killed the card, and everyone said it was overnerfed. So yes, the slowdown contributed to its overpoweredness.
The Elite Barbarians meta back in 2017 broke the game it was seen in literally every game and it took Supercell forever to nerf them probably one of the most unplayable metas
Yeah exactly if I included it in the video it woulda been a repeat of what I mentioned in my vid of worst balance changes so I decided against explicitly mentioning it
@@epsilonclash I don't think repeating the same point is an issue when it's relevant, maybe just give a quick summary of it and plug the other video while you're at it lol
A difference between Poison during the Goison Meta and the current Poison (which I think you did not directly mention): Poison back then not only made cards move slower, but it also made them ATTACK slower.
One other thing about season 4, many people wanted emergency nerfs. But, due to the Executioner being balanced every 5 minutes, Supercell confirmed they weren't emergency changing the cards.
yep. If i continued that section and tied it with the November 2019 season then I would declare it as the worst meta of all time. Because in November the executioner was godly.
@@epsilonclash didn't the executioner have some *unusual* characteristics? Such as his axe hitting entities behind him, sometimes his axe would just glitch away, and it was just BROKEN BROKEN overall??
@@HenryChen-vs8cc when executioner came out he was broken beyond belief then the spent the rest of his life span trying to find some purpose, he’s in his best place now
During the dagger duchess meta, you forgot to mention the princess/rocket cycle deck that was dominating because you didn't need to cross the bridge and deal with your opponent's duchess
yeah but its probs gonna surprise you what I think is the worst meta tbh, but giant poison is undoubtedly the worst imo. It was like the e golem meta but had like 6 op cards instead of 3.
3:17 The night witch was such a broken card back in the day that in my entire CR career, that meta was the only time I was ever able to get a 12 win in a challenge that wasn’t a special event. I quit right after the scam level 14 update, so I never got to play with OP champions or evolutions. And frankly, I’m not missing much either.
There was also the egolem, executioner, sparky meta, battle healer meta. Executioner did a musketeer shot worth of damage per tick, meaning one throw was 2 musketeer shots worth of splash damage. Also golem clone meta. Golem did absurd amounts of death damage, night witch spawned 4 bats, and lumberjack rage radius was still big, around 5 tiles I think. Also the balloon meta. Lumber loon, miner loon cycle, lumber loon freeze, anything balloon. Balloon + death damage would almost 2 shot a tower, leaving the tower at only 10-15% hp, and lumberjack rage radius was still big. Also the musketeer meta. Musketeer miner cycle was strong, but ppl were putting the musketeer in any deck. It shot every 0.9 or every 1.0 seconds and had a first hit speed of 0.1 or 0.2 seconds, meaning it could clear a skeleton army no problem. It shot and it didn't stop shooting. And I could be wrong or misremembering, but I think it did more damage as well. If it did, it was almost wizard or both ticks from the executioner level of damage per shot. Also, ik it's very difficult to go through the entire game's history in detail and with accuracy, but I didn't see any mention of earthquake during the mirror egiant meta. Earthquake was definitely a more popular choice over the rocket, bc it let your egiant connect through buildings, was less risky to play, and did the most damage per cost than any other spell in the game besides for rocket. In fact, the earthquake was so strong during that meta, there were defense only decks at the top of ladder that used tesla ice wiz tornado for defense and earthquake log and poison were the win conditions. Not even a miner, just spells bc earthquake and spells in general did so much damage during that time that you didn't a miner or anything else. Supercell even eluded to the defense only and throw spells deck during the balance change they nerfed earthquake. Great video. I'm sure it took you a long time to make it :)
yeah I assume you are talking about November 2019 right? I should have included that. And yes, EQ was super strong during e-giant meta, which I failed to talk about. I was really tryna keep every section less then 3-4 min but yeah i made mistakes. Thank you for the feedback!! I can only imagine how long it took for you to type it all out. I appreciate the effort!!
In the giant evo bomber section, he shows an Arena 1 deck for an example of how the giant was able to fit in so many archetypes I don't know if this was a joke or not.
Wow this video is really well made, for a second I thought this video was from a channel with millions of subscribers. Keep it up! It's only a matter of time that you'll get to a million!
Y'all remember giant skeleton royal hogs mother witch archer queen mirror deck? It was a literal pandemic. Devs had to revert lvl 16 mirroring due to that deck and nerf other cards too
The goblin machine and curse have to have been the most braindead and broken cards to ever be released, but they didn’t even get a meta since they were locked behind goblin ladder, and were nerfed in like 2 days
I’m surprised metaknight wasn’t mentioned because while it wasn’t a top ladder crusher, it was insane in midladder and everyone had it or a counter to it
Yep, I shoulda mentioned it but I knew there would be comments of people saying “oh you’re just bad at the game coz u can’t counter mk” so I kept it out 💀
U reminded me how old im by mentioning E barns meta, that was the most cheese way to win, if enemy had bad starting carts u could just rush his king tower.
I think one of the current year or late 2023 metas has to be the worst one imo (though I wasn't playing during the original Giant Poison era so I don't know how bad that one was). Phoenix Monk Mirror and October 2019 specially were absurdly toxic but they were at least a shock to the system after the meta was relatively stale for a while, but now there's just an absurdly broken toxic meta literally every meta. Instead of the broken meta being somewhat refreshing after a stale meta the broken meta IS the stale thing. Like me and many others even those who play fully casually are just bored of "broken new P2W thing comes out and dominates a season" for the 15th time. Specially bad for the metas where dagger duchess was broken, since having a tower troop that good means that it's inherently going to be harder to get through and win which means a lot of matches are gonna feel like a complete stalemate and that's just gonna be a lot more boring and frustrating.
Yeah, I’m not a fan of where the game is headed tbh. Even tho metas were brain dead in the past they never really felt pay to win like they do now. It’s a weird feeling
@@epsilonclash not only that most braindead metas before were the exception, and honestly often were refreshing in a way after a stale meta. Nowadays they took a complete left turn to the direct opposite direction, now the meta is completely different and completely braindead broken 80% of the time and you bet that the new shiny card you need to buy and level up is gonna be the number 1 card that season
I play on high rangs and there is only two types of decks now: mega knight + firecracker or hog + firecracker. And you lost game after game in sudden death because of the cheap damage that she does. Nothing changes since firecracker is out. Dunno why the devs can’t nerf it. At least do the fire rate like the princess has. Why my main card, princess is so bad in compare with firecracker, and she’s been that bad for years already.
thing is the firecracker isn't actually that much of a problem in top ladder, because in the end she is pretty easy to counter. Its in midladder shes an issue because many players don't really know how to counter her in mid ladder.
there arent many people that played back in 2016 around anymore, but I promise that Goison was actually unplayable. Especially since those cards were reallly accessible compared to other bad metas. EVERYONE was running it and it was soooo much better than everything else
While brief, I think Goblin Machine mirror was one of the generally most brain dead (whoever gets the most goblin machines down wins), but I’d hesitate calling it bad since it was fun watching rockets exploding all over the place and troops blowing up.
In my Opinion the wirst Meta was the Day one Goblinmachine, becouse it was so Broken that no other Deck than Goblinmachine miror was even playable. If you player even the best metadeck Form bevor you habe no Chance and the five other cards than Goblinmachine mirror and goblincurse were just there to fill your Deck. I think no one talkes about it becouse it took onely one Day,but it was just skillless.
I played the game right after release and stopped when the E Barbs were OP, my favorite card was the Witch. I started playing again in late 2023 and it's sad how I missed the only time Witch was viable
True but I never had any problem getting to top 500 every season. Lumber loon bowler freeze is my oldest deck. There was a time when people considered it toxic but now as it doesn’t have any evo's or champs it's one of the most balanced decks out there and it counters almost everything. Because of the bowler. At this point in time, the bowler is the best counter to almost every broken card.
yeah theres been a trend where the bowler has been a counter to every broken ground card. Its probably because the bowler is able to do so many things like knockback small troops, do area damage and hit multiple targets.
Haven't played this game consistently for like 4 years, however I never used any meta deck and stuck with my own self made deck basically since I had the cards that consists of Poison, Mega minion, Electro wizard, zap, ice spirit, dark prince, battle ram and Pekka. My winrate is crazy good with 1222 wins, 826 3 crowns and 485 losses since the game was released. Wish it was like it was 4-6 years ago when there wasn't all this cancer of new towers and crazy OP units with goofy abilities.
@@RandomHandle837 They were good already without the evolution. The evolution just wasn't as good as other evolutions, so they received buffs until they could defend an entire push for 1 elixir + counter-push potential.
Surprised there was no mention of Earthquake Mirror cycle meta, not only was it super braindead broken, but it was the best counter to Elixir Pump Mirror forcing its usage even higher!
I Played CR daily from June 2017 to July 2023 , experienced almost 50 different metas, and ofc there has been so many toxic ones, so many bad ones that still were kinda fun, few balanced/not so bad ones But for me the worst meta one by far that was literally unplayable was the 2019 October meta, the egolem release season, there was waay too many very broken cards at the same time ( egolem / witch / night witch / executioner / wall breakers) not to forget that these made many other cards be better in a toxic way (fisherman / rage / lumberjack / poison / sparky...)
One thing every broken cards was this strong is mostly cycle decks, just cycle your strong 4 elixir and you pretty much win games. They should just make power levels according to elixir costs, its understandable that skarmy can counter a pekka but a knight or ice wiz to solo a pekka in defense alone was too effective itself.
Drill in the dagger duchess meta was more of a counter meta deck that relied heavily on the op bomber since drill wouldn’t get damage if they placed a knight night witch ball or even barbs on it, drill wasn’t op and didn’t even receive any buff for yonks
One of the most quiet yet op metas ever was the 2022 goblin drill meta. When mighty miner was first released and the 4 instead of 3 goblins buff was first introduced, this deck took so little skill. You would drill and might miner same lane and u basically had a free tower. It worked even better with that fact tornado was extra strong at the time.
I played back in 2017-2018. One of the last new cards I saw was giant goblin. Game was still fun then, but I'd already been playing it for like a year. It was time to move on. I'm astounded to learn that people like Orange juice and surgical goblin are still playing this game six years later.
@@epsilonclash I was getting bored of the game, yet I was still playing it quite a bit every day due to its addictive nature. I figured I'd be better off just dropping it entirely. It seems I was right about that.
To be fair, little prince was a card that was given out for free to players no matter their trophies or level. Since it was a champion too, many people will use it resulting in its high 75 percent usage rate.
yes but keep in mind that was grand challenge usage rate, so despite getting it for free over 75% of players were using it in GCs as well. Its insane tbh lol
You forgot to add executioner on his release dude was full of glitches like mini stun and hitting behind his back plus tornado made it even more broken
Yooo amazing video. ❤ i would love to ask where you found that 2017 data since im a big math nerd and love watching them but i never found them on royale api. Thanks
It was just searching on reddit and seeing what people talked about In terms of usage. For instance, there was a reddit post that I used to find night witch stats in release and in that someone mentioned she had a 43% usage rate. It’s not easy but it’s worth it in the end
Imagine if all cards had all the nurfs taken off and every card with every buff piled up and every card is at its peak who knows what would be the top deck or cards
Competitive games don't really need to have a meta, like smash bros ultimate on release, all characters were equally viable and matchups weren't too favoured towards one character
I don‘t know why, but the op Night Witch was the best time for CR, it was funny and I would say that my favourite times were when an innovative Card like Night Witch or Egiant was strong for a shorter time. I think everybody loved that first op Night Witch Meta, because it was sth new. My most hated Card of all time is Drill and that is the reason why I say, every time this Card was strong and Drill was never a bad card I hated the meta and Drill is one of the reasons why I have deleted my account and would never play this game again! Egiant was my second most liked card behind Monk!
yeah but it was only really an issue in top ladder for a couple of weeks, after that it became a broken midladder card. All of these metas affected top ladder equally to midladder. If that was the case, i could have included mega knight or hog rider since they are also infamous mid ladder cards. Hope that makes sense!!
The elixir meta is by far the worst one in my opinion, combined with the prince and pekka, made me uninstall the game and not play it for 3 years straight, horrible how long it took for the elixir pump to be nerfed
I was going to say the worst meta was mirror egiant golden knight and earthquake was bad but nothing was worse than dagger duchess it genuinely made the game so unfun
you forgot the goblin machine mirror meta back when the goblin path was added, i know supercell nerf it 3 days later but that reveals how BROKEN it was for 5 elixir it was so insane and stup1d that all the deck was spirits and goblin machine mirror, doesn't need any support, almost the hp of a 7 elixir card and the rocket cleaning firecrackers, musketeers, even inferno dragons in 2 rockets also the goblin rocket was doing 528 to crown tower in level 11, making 1056 damage always in 1x elixir, easy win in 3 pushes for me it was personally annoying hearing baby sounds on the most broken card just because supercell wanted a bald bastard on the arena, its just nonsense you can tell me the legendary fire bird fenix its meta, a giant dude armored with iron and a battery its meta, two crazy blonde man who trained years and years are meta but you can't tell me a baby with his *wood toy* its meta, literally the goblin machine should die to a fire spirit or to a pekka in 1 hit, the other ones are more . . . justified why they were meta
I wouldn't say forgot, since I played when it first released and I know how stupidly strong of a card he was, but I wouldn't say its a meta. I see where u are coming from, but I would say its more of a phase that the game went through rather then a full blown meta. But yes, for those couple of days the game was at an all time low of toxic and braindead
The mirror needs to be upgraded, you can't even use it after a champion to copy the previous card to the champion The fact that the mirror has extra lv2 is not the problem, the problem is that lv1 is 10% more statistics and that is too much, but this will never change right not lv15?
dagger dutches was the worst because she was on the field the entire game and made Rocket Cycle and beatdown the meta, not to mention the broken evolutions
To be honest, the poison recent nerf isnt good. An epic spell dealing less damages than a fireball isnt a good idea. And dont forget that the poison takes 8 seconds to deal all its damages while the fireball just rushes to the tower. So yes, obviously, it will deal more damages than the fireball which in my opinion totally makes sense. Maybe I'm saying that because I play poison, but I think that having rare cards better than epic cards isnt a good idea. Another example is how e barbs are broken and can just clap almost every card in the game inclunding champions, and guess what, it's a common card. It's the same for the evomved firecracker, hitting a troop in the middle of the areana when you're on the left side to hit the tower on the right side and still manage to deal at least 200 damages and kill troops is more than overpower3d
yeah rarities don't really mean much anymore, but I see you're point. Poison is a special card tho, its ability is honestly pretty legendary tbh, its consistent damage compared to instant damage of the fireball, if that makes sense.
My issue with this subject is bias. No matter who you ask you'll get bias. Ask cycle players? Beatdown metas are bad. Ask beatdown players? Control metas are bad. Such is the way of things. Its a decent video, tho i dont fully agree with all the metas used, or at least the reasons given. Personally i hate modern cycle as i think its low skill, but that's just an opinion. So yeah, good vid, but keep bias in mind and also the mindset of players plus the game state outside of the meta.
Haha yeah but when I saw “worst” I mean the most universally hated meta. Technically speaking there is no such thing as a worst anything just a universally hated thing.
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@@Intergalactic80ah yes i remeber when the infamous dictator dyed his hair orange and started balding on the top
Dagger Duchess is, in my opinion, the worst thing that has happened to Clash Royale. She used to simply DENY half of the win conditions to the point that the META deck consisted on damaging the enemy tower without even crossing the bridge. Absolutely awful.
Actually there were two kind of decks, Giant/Lava spam (the only weakness of duchess) and some princess deck with rocket since dagger duchess couldn't do anything about these cards, same for xbow but giant is counter of xbow so xbow wasn't very popular.
@@BIELOpdb true. Fucking awful nonetheless.
Short period where gob machine recked challenges 🤫🤭
Yeah she was such a toxic and pay to win card man. Really sucked. I didn’t even get to use her coz I only had her at lvl 10, so imagine how annoying it was for me to play in April 2024…
The thing is: every new tower troop is just gonna ruin the game until it gets nerfed
Whenever a new tower troop comes out it'll be overpowered, and if a TOWER TROOP is overpowered it means it's a lot easier to defend, which means the game is gonna be a stalematey defensive hell that only becomes playable once double elixir starts and you can spam the cards that actually get through that tower troop
Don't have to watch video, I already know it's phoenix. Literally all the meta was phoenix mirror
close, but I'm on the fence about it. Giant Poison and Phoenix were both horrible metas, changing their order in the vid makes complete sense, actually the only reason I put giant poison at the end was so that we would end on a nice nostalgic revisit to the past, it was a good way to end the video on something that OG players can relate to. But yes, phoenix was equally damaging.
@@epsilonclash I've watched videos about the Phoenix release meta and the night witch meta... But I still think the meta right after dagger duchess: 💀💀💀
The meta right after goblin machine and goblin curse were realesed is even worst in my opinion, but lasted only a single day.
What about goblin machine goblin curse mirror pump
No the worse meta was duchess meta... And in actual decks it was post nerfed ebarbs or double egaint cycle
A while ago, I saw a video of Orange Juice explaining how to use the executioner . Well, I know that the video is almost 7 and a half years old. I went in and started scrolling through the comments. I saw someone say in a comment 7 years ago that the Supercell strategy is clear. They add new super powerful forces, then people pay money for them, and after some days they do Nerf 😂 My brother actually predicted the future.
lol thats true, in fact, while researching for this video I kid you not, there was a video from ClashWithAsh where he made a skit about how CR releases broken cards 'by accident' sarcastically and talks about how they made the ghost op on purpose.
Allegations of them making broken braindead cards on porpuse have always existed, but I think they only started making them busted on porpuse Phoenix Monk and onwards.
Maybe October 2019 was on purpose too but I'm not too sure, and while I'm sure they wanted champions on release to be really strong I'm pretty confident that archer queen wasn't meant to be THAT overpowered (like I bet they wanted all the champions to be about equally as good so everyone would spend money on all of them and not only on one at a time)
explain night witch and heal spell then....
I don't really know if you can count the goblin machine thing as a meta as it only lasted for like 2-3 days, but it was definitely the darkest days Clash Royale has ever seen.
yeah i was thinking about it but they killed the card in legit a week 💀
I played a grand challenge that day and every opponent I repeat every opponent had it
that card is the reason i stopped playing this game
It was technically a meta since meta stands for "Most Effective Tactics Available" and it indeed was, the most effective card before the nerf
The slow effect on the Poison during the Goison era was also a lot more potent. Not only the effect itself was stronger, but it also affected attack speed (and spawn speed), while nowadays, it only affects movement speed.
yep. in fact, when they removed the slowdown of poison in late 2016 and kept its stats pretty similar, it actually killed the card, and everyone said it was overnerfed. So yes, the slowdown contributed to its overpoweredness.
Ah, my slowness technique, I haven't used this since the goison era.
I can imagine the sukuna saying this lol
The Elite Barbarians meta back in 2017 broke the game it was seen in literally every game and it took Supercell forever to nerf them probably one of the most unplayable metas
Yeah exactly if I included it in the video it woulda been a repeat of what I mentioned in my vid of worst balance changes so I decided against explicitly mentioning it
@@epsilonclash I don't think repeating the same point is an issue when it's relevant, maybe just give a quick summary of it and plug the other video while you're at it lol
A difference between Poison during the Goison Meta and the current Poison (which I think you did not directly mention):
Poison back then not only made cards move slower, but it also made them ATTACK slower.
One other thing about season 4, many people wanted emergency nerfs. But, due to the Executioner being balanced every 5 minutes, Supercell confirmed they weren't emergency changing the cards.
yep. If i continued that section and tied it with the November 2019 season then I would declare it as the worst meta of all time. Because in November the executioner was godly.
@@epsilonclash didn't the executioner have some *unusual* characteristics? Such as his axe hitting entities behind him, sometimes his axe would just glitch away, and it was just BROKEN BROKEN overall??
@@HenryChen-vs8cc those were at a different time, in 2017, another era when the Executioner was busted.
@@geometryemperor oh ok. Thank you for pointing that out, I was literally just guessing (I only started playing last year lol)
@@HenryChen-vs8cc when executioner came out he was broken beyond belief then the spent the rest of his life span trying to find some purpose, he’s in his best place now
During the dagger duchess meta, you forgot to mention the princess/rocket cycle deck that was dominating because you didn't need to cross the bridge and deal with your opponent's duchess
I don't think there is competition against October 2019 season, maybe the Phoenix spam meta could, but I stay with October 2019
yeah but its probs gonna surprise you what I think is the worst meta tbh, but giant poison is undoubtedly the worst imo. It was like the e golem meta but had like 6 op cards instead of 3.
@epsilonclash yes but that is EXACTLY THE THING October 2019 having less op cards imo made it so much worse
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Tbf it sounds like cods
Funny thing is I actually won my first GC playing minion horde bait in the Goison meta. One of the few things to "counter" it
3:17 The night witch was such a broken card back in the day that in my entire CR career, that meta was the only time I was ever able to get a 12 win in a challenge that wasn’t a special event. I quit right after the scam level 14 update, so I never got to play with OP champions or evolutions. And frankly, I’m not missing much either.
yeah it sucks to see this game die, i really want them to keep the game alive and healthy but its just not happening
Goison was so bad that even after all this time I remember it (especially the bowler version) ...
yep. Bowler really ended the debate about the worst meta
There was also the egolem, executioner, sparky meta, battle healer meta. Executioner did a musketeer shot worth of damage per tick, meaning one throw was 2 musketeer shots worth of splash damage.
Also golem clone meta. Golem did absurd amounts of death damage, night witch spawned 4 bats, and lumberjack rage radius was still big, around 5 tiles I think.
Also the balloon meta. Lumber loon, miner loon cycle, lumber loon freeze, anything balloon. Balloon + death damage would almost 2 shot a tower, leaving the tower at only 10-15% hp, and lumberjack rage radius was still big.
Also the musketeer meta. Musketeer miner cycle was strong, but ppl were putting the musketeer in any deck. It shot every 0.9 or every 1.0 seconds and had a first hit speed of 0.1 or 0.2 seconds, meaning it could clear a skeleton army no problem. It shot and it didn't stop shooting. And I could be wrong or misremembering, but I think it did more damage as well. If it did, it was almost wizard or both ticks from the executioner level of damage per shot.
Also, ik it's very difficult to go through the entire game's history in detail and with accuracy, but I didn't see any mention of earthquake during the mirror egiant meta. Earthquake was definitely a more popular choice over the rocket, bc it let your egiant connect through buildings, was less risky to play, and did the most damage per cost than any other spell in the game besides for rocket. In fact, the earthquake was so strong during that meta, there were defense only decks at the top of ladder that used tesla ice wiz tornado for defense and earthquake log and poison were the win conditions. Not even a miner, just spells bc earthquake and spells in general did so much damage during that time that you didn't a miner or anything else. Supercell even eluded to the defense only and throw spells deck during the balance change they nerfed earthquake.
Great video. I'm sure it took you a long time to make it :)
yeah I assume you are talking about November 2019 right? I should have included that. And yes, EQ was super strong during e-giant meta, which I failed to talk about. I was really tryna keep every section less then 3-4 min but yeah i made mistakes. Thank you for the feedback!! I can only imagine how long it took for you to type it all out. I appreciate the effort!!
great vid honestly. Really hit the two metas I hated the most. Night witch golem and egiant mirror metas.
In the giant evo bomber section, he shows an Arena 1 deck for an example of how the giant was able to fit in so many archetypes
I don't know if this was a joke or not.
Yea lol now I think about it I think I put the wrong image there 💀
Wow this video is really well made, for a second I thought this video was from a channel with millions of subscribers. Keep it up! It's only a matter of time that you'll get to a million!
That means a lot to me, thank you so much for the support!!
Y'all remember giant skeleton royal hogs mother witch archer queen mirror deck? It was a literal pandemic. Devs had to revert lvl 16 mirroring due to that deck and nerf other cards too
The goblin machine and curse have to have been the most braindead and broken cards to ever be released, but they didn’t even get a meta since they were locked behind goblin ladder, and were nerfed in like 2 days
I’m surprised metaknight wasn’t mentioned because while it wasn’t a top ladder crusher, it was insane in midladder and everyone had it or a counter to it
Yep, I shoulda mentioned it but I knew there would be comments of people saying “oh you’re just bad at the game coz u can’t counter mk” so I kept it out 💀
U reminded me how old im by mentioning E barns meta, that was the most cheese way to win, if enemy had bad starting carts u could just rush his king tower.
I think one of the current year or late 2023 metas has to be the worst one imo (though I wasn't playing during the original Giant Poison era so I don't know how bad that one was). Phoenix Monk Mirror and October 2019 specially were absurdly toxic but they were at least a shock to the system after the meta was relatively stale for a while, but now there's just an absurdly broken toxic meta literally every meta.
Instead of the broken meta being somewhat refreshing after a stale meta the broken meta IS the stale thing. Like me and many others even those who play fully casually are just bored of "broken new P2W thing comes out and dominates a season" for the 15th time.
Specially bad for the metas where dagger duchess was broken, since having a tower troop that good means that it's inherently going to be harder to get through and win which means a lot of matches are gonna feel like a complete stalemate and that's just gonna be a lot more boring and frustrating.
Yeah, I’m not a fan of where the game is headed tbh. Even tho metas were brain dead in the past they never really felt pay to win like they do now. It’s a weird feeling
@@epsilonclash not only that most braindead metas before were the exception, and honestly often were refreshing in a way after a stale meta.
Nowadays they took a complete left turn to the direct opposite direction, now the meta is completely different and completely braindead broken 80% of the time and you bet that the new shiny card you need to buy and level up is gonna be the number 1 card that season
I play on high rangs and there is only two types of decks now: mega knight + firecracker or hog + firecracker. And you lost game after game in sudden death because of the cheap damage that she does. Nothing changes since firecracker is out. Dunno why the devs can’t nerf it. At least do the fire rate like the princess has. Why my main card, princess is so bad in compare with firecracker, and she’s been that bad for years already.
thing is the firecracker isn't actually that much of a problem in top ladder, because in the end she is pretty easy to counter. Its in midladder shes an issue because many players don't really know how to counter her in mid ladder.
I highly doubt your high rank if you can’t defend a hog.
there arent many people that played back in 2016 around anymore, but I promise that Goison was actually unplayable. Especially since those cards were reallly accessible compared to other bad metas. EVERYONE was running it and it was soooo much better than everything else
yeah, a lot of people tend to say phoenix meta but like goison was soo toxic its not even a joke
giant posion, no contest. if you played back then it was literally unavoidable
I had a great sleep after this. Appreciate it bro.
All good!! Always good to hear!
While brief, I think Goblin Machine mirror was one of the generally most brain dead (whoever gets the most goblin machines down wins), but I’d hesitate calling it bad since it was fun watching rockets exploding all over the place and troops blowing up.
I miss the Double Prince and Hog Freeze Meta
In my Opinion the wirst Meta was the Day one Goblinmachine, becouse it was so Broken that no other Deck than Goblinmachine miror was even playable. If you player even the best metadeck Form bevor you habe no Chance and the five other cards than Goblinmachine mirror and goblincurse were just there to fill your Deck. I think no one talkes about it becouse it took onely one Day,but it was just skillless.
was that even a meta though? Barely anyone had enough cards to fully upgrade it and before most people could obtain it, it was nerfed very fast.
Great video man
I played the game right after release and stopped when the E Barbs were OP, my favorite card was the Witch. I started playing again in late 2023 and it's sad how I missed the only time Witch was viable
Dagger Duchess meta was the absolute worst to me
True but I never had any problem getting to top 500 every season. Lumber loon bowler freeze is my oldest deck. There was a time when people considered it toxic but now as it doesn’t have any evo's or champs it's one of the most balanced decks out there and it counters almost everything. Because of the bowler. At this point in time, the bowler is the best counter to almost every broken card.
yeah theres been a trend where the bowler has been a counter to every broken ground card. Its probably because the bowler is able to do so many things like knockback small troops, do area damage and hit multiple targets.
Haven't played this game consistently for like 4 years, however I never used any meta deck and stuck with my own self made deck basically since I had the cards that consists of Poison, Mega minion, Electro wizard, zap, ice spirit, dark prince, battle ram and Pekka. My winrate is crazy good with 1222 wins, 826 3 crowns and 485 losses since the game was released. Wish it was like it was 4-6 years ago when there wasn't all this cancer of new towers and crazy OP units with goofy abilities.
Tower cards? Evolutions? DOUBLE evolutions? I'm glad i left this game a few years ago.
They are actually really cool when balanced
@@RandomHandle837Evolutions are inherently broken. They buff cards that aren't necessarily bad, like skeletons.
@@olasdorosdiliusimilius2174 Skeletons Evo needed like 4 buffs to become good, how is that inherently broken?
@@RandomHandle837 They were good already without the evolution. The evolution just wasn't as good as other evolutions, so they received buffs until they could defend an entire push for 1 elixir + counter-push potential.
Surprised there was no mention of Earthquake Mirror cycle meta, not only was it super braindead broken, but it was the best counter to Elixir Pump Mirror forcing its usage even higher!
And here it is they made the dagger from a good card used in meta to the worst card that none uses
I Played CR daily from June 2017 to July 2023 , experienced almost 50 different metas, and ofc there has been so many toxic ones, so many bad ones that still were kinda fun, few balanced/not so bad ones
But for me the worst meta one by far that was literally unplayable was the 2019 October meta, the egolem release season, there was waay too many very broken cards at the same time ( egolem / witch / night witch / executioner / wall breakers) not to forget that these made many other cards be better in a toxic way (fisherman / rage / lumberjack / poison / sparky...)
yeah October 2019 was horrific.
One thing every broken cards was this strong is mostly cycle decks, just cycle your strong 4 elixir and you pretty much win games. They should just make power levels according to elixir costs, its understandable that skarmy can counter a pekka but a knight or ice wiz to solo a pekka in defense alone was too effective itself.
Drill in the dagger duchess meta was more of a counter meta deck that relied heavily on the op bomber since drill wouldn’t get damage if they placed a knight night witch ball or even barbs on it, drill wasn’t op and didn’t even receive any buff for yonks
Once they nerfed bomber the deck was thrown out basically, it still would work if the bomber was the same and the drill was still nerfed
Goblin machine + goblin curse... For like 5 horus when it came out 😂
One of the most quiet yet op metas ever was the 2022 goblin drill meta. When mighty miner was first released and the 4 instead of 3 goblins buff was first introduced, this deck took so little skill. You would drill and might miner same lane and u basically had a free tower. It worked even better with that fact tornado was extra strong at the time.
the fact that every deck then had valk/bowler/dark prince/ghost/log, even multiple of them, yet goblin drill was still an issue is insane
@@lightsama2463 exactly. Also this was pre rocket nerf so you could cycle rockets as well and they did 600 dmg
I played back in 2017-2018. One of the last new cards I saw was giant goblin. Game was still fun then, but I'd already been playing it for like a year. It was time to move on. I'm astounded to learn that people like Orange juice and surgical goblin are still playing this game six years later.
damn thats cool to hear, what made you quit in 2018?
@@epsilonclash I was getting bored of the game, yet I was still playing it quite a bit every day due to its addictive nature. I figured I'd be better off just dropping it entirely. It seems I was right about that.
12:49 "clash royale would be dominated by three overpowered cods"
Not the cods! 🐠🐟
hahaha bro I swear like the subtitles thing I use literally has no common sense. Cool to see it got some giggles tho
I like the name of your channel. When I discovered the origin of the name zeta division I was like OHHHHHHH
lol i dont play brawl stars but glad u like the channel name!!
To be fair, little prince was a card that was given out for free to players no matter their trophies or level. Since it was a champion too, many people will use it resulting in its high 75 percent usage rate.
yes but keep in mind that was grand challenge usage rate, so despite getting it for free over 75% of players were using it in GCs as well. Its insane tbh lol
Gotta love the Minecraft music in the background
And now we have rocket silo 2.9 in the rocket rumble challenge
April 2024 dagger duchess was actually fantastic for me. (I played Xbow so I never had to cross the bridge 😭😭)
You forgot to add executioner on his release dude was full of glitches like mini stun and hitting behind his back plus tornado made it even more broken
yeah I did, there are so many metas that I missed tbh
Where can you see the usage stats? Are they posted somewhere?
Yooo amazing video. ❤ i would love to ask where you found that 2017 data since im a big math nerd and love watching them but i never found them on royale api. Thanks
It was just searching on reddit and seeing what people talked about In terms of usage. For instance, there was a reddit post that I used to find night witch stats in release and in that someone mentioned she had a 43% usage rate. It’s not easy but it’s worth it in the end
“…And almost every time a new evo was released”
Evolutions, phoenix, goblin machine. There, saved ya 25 minutes.
my favorite gotta be the lv16 3m pump meta in 2021 💀
Yaay another banger video
Imagine if all cards had all the nurfs taken off and every card with every buff piled up and every card is at its peak who knows what would be the top deck or cards
At least we never had a true meta with the first version of the goblin machine, that would have been monk-phoneix meta 2.0
yeah lol it woulda been so bad
worst for me was the last one with Duchess tower hero... cut down on so many decks
Battle machine pekka for the short amount of time it was viable was the only usable option
Oh for first attack speed u could put a sword and like a 1st in a clock
Competitive games don't really need to have a meta, like smash bros ultimate on release, all characters were equally viable and matchups weren't too favoured towards one character
Clash royale is in his peak right now since the moment evos came out
Did goblin machine release not qualify because of how short it was?
yeah basically
Im surprised you forgot golem night witch clone. Or 3 musketeers.
Idk I feel like the mother witch meta deserves a mention. After her first buff she countered the swarm meta single- handley
Bro now uploaded ❤
Imma try my best to do at least monthly, but next year im gonna have much more time on my hands!!
Bro where is goblin machine meta?Okay it stayed short but worth to mention you know.
Yea I had it in mind, but it’s not really a meta, it’s more of a phase that the game went through.
Find a time period in clash Royale history without a broken no skill meta challenge impossible
thank you for making content that can replace gratz im tired of supporting creeps
B-but lumberloon
I don‘t know why, but the op Night Witch was the best time for CR, it was funny and I would say that my favourite times were when an innovative Card like Night Witch or Egiant was strong for a shorter time. I think everybody loved that first op Night Witch Meta, because it was sth new. My most hated Card of all time is Drill and that is the reason why I say, every time this Card was strong and Drill was never a bad card I hated the meta and Drill is one of the reasons why I have deleted my account and would never play this game again! Egiant was my second most liked card behind Monk!
The minecraft music is so good
Heal spell 3 musketeers meta??? That meta was so broken they had to nerf the heal spell to oblivion and then later delete it from the game.
Yeahhh tbh I actually took a small break from the game during that time so I didn’t even think about it, my bad
What if for April fools supercell brought back the strongest version of every card that would be funny to see which would be the strongest
that would make for such a fun gamemode lol. It would truly bring life back into this game
we're in the paywall meta
I think Void is what pushed wizard etc. out.
2016 RG not in the vid is crazy
yeah but it was only really an issue in top ladder for a couple of weeks, after that it became a broken midladder card. All of these metas affected top ladder equally to midladder. If that was the case, i could have included mega knight or hog rider since they are also infamous mid ladder cards. Hope that makes sense!!
The elixir meta is by far the worst one in my opinion, combined with the prince and pekka, made me uninstall the game and not play it for 3 years straight, horrible how long it took for the elixir pump to be nerfed
Imo
1.phoenix+monk meta
2.Dagger dutchess meta
3.Lvl 16 mirror
4.Crl 2023 meta
5.Giant meta
I was going to say the worst meta was mirror egiant golden knight and earthquake was bad but nothing was worse than dagger duchess it genuinely made the game so unfun
When newbies say "Phoneix was the most overpowered card!" Remind them 2017-2018 night witch can take out pekka
(pekka cant even have a shot on tower"
Nowadays night witch can still counter a Pekka with right timing.
@@BIELOpdb i just mean a support troop can took pekka. Imagine battle healer took pekka down
Phoenix was the more overpowered and versatile card overall but OG night witch was the most toxic
good video
If mirror is viable, then the mega is trash
you forgot the goblin machine mirror meta back when the goblin path was added, i know supercell nerf it 3 days later but that reveals how BROKEN it was for 5 elixir it was so insane and stup1d that all the deck was spirits and goblin machine mirror, doesn't need any support, almost the hp of a 7 elixir card and the rocket cleaning firecrackers, musketeers, even inferno dragons in 2 rockets
also the goblin rocket was doing 528 to crown tower in level 11, making 1056 damage always in 1x elixir, easy win in 3 pushes
for me it was personally annoying hearing baby sounds on the most broken card just because supercell wanted a bald bastard on the arena, its just nonsense
you can tell me the legendary fire bird fenix its meta, a giant dude armored with iron and a battery its meta, two crazy blonde man who trained years and years are meta
but you can't tell me a baby with his *wood toy* its meta, literally the goblin machine should die to a fire spirit or to a pekka in 1 hit, the other ones are more . . . justified why they were meta
I wouldn't say forgot, since I played when it first released and I know how stupidly strong of a card he was, but I wouldn't say its a meta. I see where u are coming from, but I would say its more of a phase that the game went through rather then a full blown meta. But yes, for those couple of days the game was at an all time low of toxic and braindead
No way bro forgot the Royale giant meta when RG could shoot at the bridge practically and shots only took 1 second!!!!
It was more of a mid ladder problem then overall the whole game but yeah
The mirror needs to be upgraded, you can't even use it after a champion to copy the previous card to the champion
The fact that the mirror has extra lv2 is not the problem, the problem is that lv1 is 10% more statistics and that is too much, but this will never change
right not lv15?
12:07 Not the arena 1 starter deck
Goison was the Vietnam of metas. Any other answer is by someone who didn’t face the cruelty that was goison.
dagger dutches was the worst because she was on the field the entire game and made Rocket Cycle and beatdown the meta, not to mention the broken evolutions
epsilon dan reform is making videos 🙀
lol what
E-giant mirror
Funny times back in the day
any meta in 2023 is bad
To be honest, the poison recent nerf isnt good. An epic spell dealing less damages than a fireball isnt a good idea. And dont forget that the poison takes 8 seconds to deal all its damages while the fireball just rushes to the tower. So yes, obviously, it will deal more damages than the fireball which in my opinion totally makes sense. Maybe I'm saying that because I play poison, but I think that having rare cards better than epic cards isnt a good idea. Another example is how e barbs are broken and can just clap almost every card in the game inclunding champions, and guess what, it's a common card. It's the same for the evomved firecracker, hitting a troop in the middle of the areana when you're on the left side to hit the tower on the right side and still manage to deal at least 200 damages and kill troops is more than overpower3d
yeah rarities don't really mean much anymore, but I see you're point. Poison is a special card tho, its ability is honestly pretty legendary tbh, its consistent damage compared to instant damage of the fireball, if that makes sense.
Are the subtitles automatic?
Kind of. I edit a little bit of them but they’re mostly auto
Peak content
thanks!!
My issue with this subject is bias. No matter who you ask you'll get bias. Ask cycle players? Beatdown metas are bad. Ask beatdown players? Control metas are bad. Such is the way of things. Its a decent video, tho i dont fully agree with all the metas used, or at least the reasons given. Personally i hate modern cycle as i think its low skill, but that's just an opinion. So yeah, good vid, but keep bias in mind and also the mindset of players plus the game state outside of the meta.
Haha yeah but when I saw “worst” I mean the most universally hated meta. Technically speaking there is no such thing as a worst anything just a universally hated thing.