Safe Steel Fortress Speed team! 45-50 Sec AVG! (summoners war)
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- A team the majority of players can make! Disclaimer, Times correlate to your rune quality. Using 4 nat 3s and 1 Vampire lord i have created an Amazing speed team!
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****update**** if you build zinc and vamp lord on 3x will runes success rate with lower rune quality will be amazing! Something i forgot to mention is that you want your ZINC max skilled!!! You can farm scenario for skill ups.
Thanks for the team! I've been trying to get zinc skillups since the new update, 6* 2.5 mons already and only dropped 2 living armors ;_;
The scenario thing for skillups... well... you can... but... the drop rates are SOOOOOO garbage you might aswell use a different unit for the time being... I spent about 10 refreshes getting 1 skillup and i have a feeling i got lucky because im not the only one having this problem
Ah yes the drop rate is bad for sure. You could do it while grinding XG to be more efficient though.
Awe man hopefully the luck turns around or u summon some.
This is the same team I've been running. It's about 95% for me since my runes and towers aren't at your level. When zinc derps or gets resisted and vamp uses S3, if the boss then targets vamp or stuns him it usually wipes. This dungeon is really frustrating because it's 100% reliant on landing a single debuff, which can be resisted or monster AI just fails. Then the dungeon just starts snowballing.
I've found that replacing Kro for Fran is slightly safer but obviously much slower. However at the point where kro is needed the dungeon is already won and the debuff was landed, so maybe for people who aren't as end game as you it would be a safer option.
Jimirio just put up an update if you can move zinc and vamp to 3x will runes, that should close the gap on the fails.
@@aceditgaming4764 Okay I'll do some reruning this weekend and try out. I ended up failing 2 in a row after derps and switched to Fran (L) Zinc Loren Brandia(or kro) and Raoq. I noticed the vamp lord hardly ever saved the runs from zinc derp/resist, so the new lineup so far hasn't failed, it has enough sustain for zinc to cycle skills and get S3 back up.
With triple will it should be ever better.
Awesome bro! Yes don’t be afraid to make changes to any comps I show, that’s what I aim for, to help you guys understand the concept and work with what you guys have!
Sure but my main gripe with that is the player is literally required to build 2nd Loren and 2 Fran! Sure if player have BJ5 Loren ... USE HER HERE!
I already have both and I do not want to make them slower at all! You want both of them to be as fast as possible for both GB12 and DB12! For Necro very fast Fran is not really needed as player can use something else, Colleen or maybe even Sharman (Light Griffon) as I've seen it in one of the videos for very fast Necro B12 runs
Great Team bud, works like a champ and got me my fastest time yet, well done! [Crushed Bagels, Islands, and SeanB]
Amazing comment, thank you very much. Happy farming.
Oh solid u just nailed it 35 seconds great team and great runes YoYo style awesome showcase bro I wish I had those runes but u deserves them better & more.... Zinc is the key factor in that team ... I congrats u guys gave a lot of content don't even took complete sleep .... Thanx Professional Ace....
Thank you very much bro! YO YO styled this dungeon!
you always give the best teams! always work! after trying other set ups from other youtubersi finally found your vids. Thank you
Thanks man, this team worked very smoothly for me. Mine is running between 0:45-1:10 but I guess it's because of my inferior rune quality. I just put some random runes on some units so I will improve it more, I just have to farm more mana because I'm broken right now. Anyway, for me best team so far.
Awesome to hear this and I know the mana broke feeling all to well.
Thanks for the turn idea I didn’t want to re rune so my turn order isn’t quite the same but got me down 30 seconds to 1:02 excellent video
Awesome!
As a fellow streamer I just want to say you are by far one of the best on TH-cam and I always refer people to your guides. Keep up the great content! -Fitandgames
Oh bro thank you so so very much! Glad to hear, I was actually lurking on your stream a few days ago. Keep up the good work!
This Team is genius man, great content :)
Thank you Very much!
Awesome team. I can't wait to try it out! My Chiwu has the Intelligence of a potato, so hopefully this works team works better than my current team 😄🤘
Im positive it will! I ran pung for a while and hes just as bad as Chiwu.
Chiwu, pungbaek and Eirgar, i ran all three and they still didnt use their s2! ARRRRGGGHHHH!
It is working WONDERFULL for me!! Really thnx! u are amazing, sharing ur link in my guild
Guillermo Mallo awesome to hear!!!! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the vid, forgot zinc did that lol, also fought you on siege that rakkan is a beast
Hey no problem, hoping to help people as much as possible. Hehe that’s the first compliment I’ve gotten on rakan. Thanks man
Thank you for the team, Ace.. inspiring runes 😍
You’re welcome and like I said in the vid don’t focus on the runes to much. Use what you have the concept will make your team work just at a different pace.
@@aceditgaming4764 yes will definitely try it out. 💪
Do you think it will work if zinc move second after the Eirgar? Not much mana left after the big shift haha 😂
@@lindadaniel88 Preferably first. Eirgar's AI is -50 IQ and will almost NEVER s2 as an opener. What happens then is the 2 buffs get placed and if Zinc misses his block beneficial, you're gonna have to hope you don't get stunned or one shot.
@@SANavodKa so true haha. 👍thanks 🤗
This man's videos need more views!
Thanks 😊
Solid team. I've tried all the block beneficial monsters and I've found Zinc and unawakened Dark Mystic Witch to be the most reliable AI wise. Eirgar has some serious issues using weaken as well and the pioneer brothers who also refuse to use their S2. The vampires will almost always S3 if it's up instead of S2 as well.
I have a problem with Chiwu, tried running this dun(sb10) it took me 30mins bec I run this dun took a shower and when I came back I was surprised it's still ongoing and noticed Chiwu keeps spamming 1st skill only. I think it's broken.
@@joerellemacababayao9127 Yeah, the pioneer brothers have major AI issues. They'll always use S3 when it's up and S1 the other 99% of the time.
Zinc is great because he does 3 hits, so he has a higher chance to apply it.
So i tried this team, i runed some units better than yours or close to the same, had the same sets and turning and i just couldn't seem to get it past 90% consistency. I also built your safe PC10 team and i swapped the Kro here for the Peng and i havent failed since and its ran about 1:00 - 1:25 every run. If youre struggling making this team try doing this :)
Zinc and if possible vamp on 3will should fix the issue, updated the pinned comment.
A simple yet beautiful team it melts that boss pretty awesome.
Definitely does!
Sup Ace dropped by to smash the like button
Thank you sir!
Now I remembered why I was building a second Loren hahaha thanks for reminding me 😂
Haha awesome!
you are the best !! thanx for this team
Thank you too for the support!
Nice will be testing out! Btw should i take Jultan or Miho from the event? Don't have any of them
Hmmm miho is used more imo. I’d go with her.
Miho is a pvp mon, and jultan is now a PC10 MVP for pve content. Jultan for pve progression, Miho for pvp aggression. You decide.
@@Hlaku sounds like jultan might be the better choice as of now :/
Jultan is being used for endgame speed runs though if u can rune it well then take him. You don’t need him though for pve. I guess it depends what u prioritize pve or pvp.
@@aceditgaming4764 thanks man! Appreciated:)
A guildie did a 30 sec run with Lushen, Loren, Kro, Luna and unawakened dark mystic witch.
i saw a 0:26 in dungeon discussion raoq instead of luna
Oh very nice I heard about it going to try it next probably, my witch is 5* still needing skill ups.
Been telling people for the longest that zinc is an absolute unit, bout time he found a niche.
Hes legit here!
Ty for this ultra ez team safe
Welcome
GODLY RUNE
Cochian told me to check out your videos he's from the guild I'm in and joined yours. I apperciate the video little slower than yours at 1m 5 secs is the best but so far its 100% and I appreciate the advice! As i type this 1st fail hahah!
Hehe I’ll be updating this video soon. I’ve noticed some stuff to make it better. 3x will on zinc makes it even safer.
But you do want 216 speed on him minimum though as this way he moves twice before right tower. It tunes perfectly so that if he missed turn 1 he applies turn 2 and tower gives boss a turn providing a free strip for your team.
Just so you know, zinc does roughly the same damage having him spd def def with decent crit rate due to his low multipliers.
Knoodz yea I figured he doesn’t need cdmg so much.
Alright I was close to figuring this team out by myself this time haha, but thank you!
Glad I could help! They say great times think alike... XD
I picked lyn already.... I'll try sleeping Gina though. Thanx for the great info as always.
Very welcome good luck
Thank you Ace!
You're welcome!
Amazing 👍, looks super f2p friendly Thank you
Is zinc on vio okay ?
Actually with feedback I recommend 3x will now. Lower rune quality was failing. 3x will on him and vamp if possible will fix the issue.
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Hey guys,
the team does not work for me. The successrate is only around 50-60%, it fails once both eigar or zinc derps or dont land block effects, there is no comeback really.
Here are my runes, they are on par with the ones in vid in most cases:
imgur.com/a/Nu58OAV
If someone got suggestions if I do sth wrong, feel free to post here. Thanks!
Check pinned comment. 3x will zinc is much better. Although with your runes there is no way it should be failing that much. Are your towers maxed? If not u may need more surviveability. Fran over vamp could do the trick but will be slower.
wow. just wow. thanks!
Loren moving last is genius. Im gonna build this.
Awesome good luck, check pinned comment for updated build on zinc.
Im using the same time actually! But my runs are around 1:50-2 mins instead, im guessing it bc my zinc is still 5* and my kro and raoq dont do that much time. Hopefully in time with artifacts and better runes ill be able to achieve ur time.
Edit- realized ur zinc and vamp lord are also built on dmg while mine are tanky lol, makes sense why my runs are still slow.
There u go, yea it actually makes a diff, specially because of the team ups.
nice got my new best time on first try using team
Awesome to HEAR!
Good stuff! Now ya know!
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Thank you.
My record in sf12 is 27s, with a manual team. Someone in ghost guild has 17s @.@
But the safest fastest team i use to auto is zinc>loren>pung>hwa>kro... the suppressive atb control from loren and hwa is amazing. 32s record with that comp
Oh very nice! i can see how that works.
Looking forward to see punisher fast run mid gamer edition and the new content in dimention
I did the dimension midgame already. The fast punisher on midgame will be a ways off need to make some other units.
Brig-light Pirate captain] has been great for me , always uses hes 3rd skill block. + has a def break.
Nice! I don’t have him built or I would have tested him, although I do prefer zinc as he does fluff damage and aoe def break to speed up the waves.
Suprised you're using vamp lord, I thought his AI was bad? I heard Pang is really good because she extends the debuffs on the enemies
@@adik.5432 that's the same as any beneficial block monster
@@mainaste ah okay, yeah im gonna go with a dark witch
Exactly what Stephen said. The att buff and lead makes it faster plus back up block and the vampire effect for sustain.
This has been so annoying for me lol. I pulled a zinc wayy back in the day and regretted feeding him because they buffed him shortly after. Haven’t been able to pull him since. The same exact story for Miho. If this dungeon had dropped before I chose miho for the event I would’ve been fine.
Ah man so sorry to hear this. Hopefully he comes back soon.
will try this build. ty
Nice! Good luck on arti drops!
@@aceditgaming4764 wow u r replying? thanks. btw can u show case ur team for the punisher crypt as well? im stuck both dungeon at b8.
@@aceditgaming4764 im sorry u already did it. just found the video.
Mine is not as successful. It works most of the time but in the scenario where both derped and right after loren boss stuns both zinc and eirgar, it will fail.
Check pinned message, if u can switch to 3x will success rate will go up quite a bit.
I've seen ur recent videos but this got ur sub from me :)
Ty very much
I'll try, was using my violent loren, thanks :)
Nice good luck check pinned comment for updated build for zinc.
hi may i know what do you mean by the dungeon itself only need 24% accuracy?
You only need 24% accuracy to be able to land debuffs. No matter what everything is the game has 15% resistance. So for example these guys have 39% resist, therefore only 24 accuracy is needed.
Good team btw..pretty safe
Ty sir it’s working great!
Aced it! Thanks :)
You got it!
Idol
you know!!!!
why does mine keep derping tho? When it derps, sometimes it can still win but often times they get stunned by towers for 2 turns.
Maxed towers, almost same stats as yours except with speed but the speed tuning is still the same way, zinc eirgar loren fully skilled.
I tested it with 100 runs, it had a 78% success rate, average time 55s.
What am I doing wrong?
im pissed the fk off too, same stats but my zinc uses s3 all the time in stages before the boss but when he gets to the boss he fking uses s1 twice in a row multiple times. this is like 65 percent for me cause of how stupid the ai is.
I’ll be updating this. For now I’ve found 3x will on zinc is way better. Doesn’t need to be on cdmg. Spd def def. he does need 216 speed minimum it seems. As it gives him 2 turns before right tower moves. Allowing him to apply block and then tower gives boss a turn. Providing a free cleanse of debuffs.
just put in fran over kro. makes the runs 1 min or 1min 30 but at least you don't waste energy
@@aceditgaming4764 just put zinc on 2x will since i didn't have enough will to spare and its already failing a lot less. If anything zinc doesn't even need def def on 4 and 6. You can just stick anything on him to give him 216 speed since the damage is mainly coming from other units.
@@aceditgaming4764 just did the 3x will on zinc , made the runs a lot safer. Thanks for this!
Ty
Very welcome
7:45 he is not applying the defense break because his skill 2 doesnt have 100% activation. Getting over 25% acc would make NO DIFFERENCE
edit: well... it would make a difference. You would have to trade overall stats for unnecessary acc and thus you would have a worse zinc lol
Great point, i admit i missed that its not 100 percent activation.
This team still has a lot of fails through multiple refreshs... You made it out like it was extremely safe
It does depend on rune quality unfortunately but put your zinc on 3x will and that will help for sure with success rate.
I'll keep at it 👌
Zinc good AI? Very debatable.
better than others, may have been a better choice of words lol
not trying to hate ,but loren vio procs into strip is very viable
Yes but with vio procs boss also dishes out stuns every 5 turns if he has buffs. Also loren strip isn’t 100%, so for stability I went no vio and to free up my gwar loren and recycle my bj loren who adds fight sets as well. Vio will work though as well for those who don’t have 2.
zinc Ai is good, it just that sometimes the skill is not ready or miss due to (res and acc thing)
yea this is where the team ups from kro and Raoq come into play. Even though, team still works when he doesnt hit it turn 1. Vamp can do it also.
@@aceditgaming4764 Yup agreed. proper Spd tuning/turn order is important. vio runes is not ideal and should be minimized as it might creates inconsistency, except for certain units like raoq .
Exactly with vio procs come more stuns on boss.
whats the p2w version of this. Can Kro be daphnis
Nah tested him and daphnis derps to much.
@@aceditgaming4764 anywhere else I can use kro, though? Feels bad 2aing him just for sf.
I dont need him in pc and db btw
I use in giants and dragons myself. But Yea u can just replace him with a heavy damage dealer with def break on s1. Brandia comes to mind but her her def break is 50% kro is 90%. Also the issue is when she derps it’s bad. When kro derps he teams up. So it doesn’t hurt as much.
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I have to build another slow Loren or increase all my other units speed to move before my already fast loren? hell no XDDD
guessing you dont do bjr5 eh, thats the good part. It uses the bjr5 Loren so alot of people already have her built.
@@aceditgaming4764 nope i absolutely do not XD
:)
Hi can you explain the minimum 24 accuracy?
The boss has 39% resistance (you can look for the mined data on reddit, google b12 stats). There is always a 15% chance to resist, so 24% acc is all you need (39-15)
Awesome job at explaining it. Exactly what tiago said
What heppens when rezist come into play? cause smells like wipe
A double resist/ derps does indeed result in a wipe more often than not after further testing unfortunately. No way around being resisted.
@@aceditgaming4764 i figured out the fastest way xD manual :) always 45-55sec only once rezisted per 40-50 runs
Haha if u have the patience not bad.
3:52 Wrong! Worst case scenario is you lose!
touche'
Dont even need Eirgar, i use Verde L fran loren zinc naomi.......doesnt derp
Ah very nice team.
guess I am getting zinc over light drunken master
There you go! Definitely!
Must be nice having Zinc haha no lying all alternatives are bad and inconsistent ..
ah, did you already pick something else from the event?
Dark mystic witch is more consistent
I’ll give it a shot with mid game runes
do let me know how it goes.
Bro you dont like gina?
I didn’t have her built. I started building her but now I don’t need her. She won’t speed this up at all, she’s more for slower reliable teams.
Trump doesn't
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She is actually classified as attack type unit. In terms of damage probably way better than Zinc if she would be built for it.
Just DO NOT awake her!
666 views when I go to watch - Noice.
Hehe yea vid is performing really well. Its an awesome team.
Should loren not move before double wolves..first like btw 2nd comment
Short answer is it speeds up the waves with her moving last.
How do you def break ?
@@mamamoolover2534 Did you even watch the video before you question?
Clearly in the video Raoq is the def breaker. Raoq goes first before Kro's big nuke. Raoq has def break on s1 and s2 potential teamup with Loren &or Kro that both have def break on theit s1.
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@@RukoS-xy6jo I though you need 85 acc for that ..surely both doggies don't have required acc..and team up may not take loren..I just wanna know how it's working?
@@mamamoolover2534 How its working? But it is working. Thats why the title said Average 40-50 sec. If it did not def break in turn 1, it just cost you additional time.
zinc for me pls
good luck getting him.
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Hey orange
@@aceditgaming4764 lol :))
Not the fastest, someone do it with 28 second
Yea I’ve heard.