@@yeecksd9744 tried that, not enough strip, and when the boss gets low if you cant Burst that last bit, he wypes you... Maybe with late game runes, but that kind of defeats the purpose.
Thank you. One thing that was discussed in my main guild: Why try to force b12 now instead of concentrating on artefacts first and then use those to ease the b12 requirements?
@@isseihyodo4358 For SF i got eirgar/Hwa/argen/raoq/fran, only fails when AI derps so hard you wonder how it ever could have programmed (like eirgar cycling between skill1 and 3). For PC i went verde/ariel/Rica/raoq/vero and kill the left turret first, i dont like the vero but he is my only dark tank, i have been lucky with getting a rica tho.
My problem with f2w teams is that while the monsters are easy to get, the rune requirements to make it a consistent team is much higher, so I end up using more 4* mons
Thank you bagelmon for the fast update video, keep up the good work, and yes, take a break in between the vids, you deserve it, we'll still watch them anyway! 😊
Me: *finally can clear giants and dragons b10* Com2us: *releases b12 dungeons* Me: 😐 Don't get me wrong, I'm excited we can finally have dungeons that guranteee 6* runes lul. But my old team can't survive (or barely survives) the new b12/b11 dungeons so im stuck doing b10. Rip my runes.
The update is bad, Now i am sad, Tho my account is close to endgame, I cant beat ug10 of new bosses on my main. C2u just wants us to cry, And sell us new packs that we have to buy. Its pay2win and will always be, All that is left for us to see... Eirgar is now part of the meta family. My runes arent shit, So dont fill your comment with it.
My runes are shit, tho, just like a lot of people's as well... and the new dungeon levels are making people like me just quit the game (even if I can clear b12s and whatnot)
What i learned from Artifact dungeons: for Fortress: get chiwu or dark vamp lord for buff block on early then easy nuke (pang helps). For Punisher: boss and towers attack dark mons so dots+ jultan super op combo straight for boss. Both under 1:30 avg
If you're early game there's nothing for you to look forward to in this update, everything requires good runes and good monsters. Even DH boss is near impossible to beat even with bump in stats. The only thing to really look forward to is the fact that b10s are now slightly easier to do.
Not even midgame players can beat the 2 new dungeons i could beat gb 12 and dragons b11 but the new dungeons only till b6 what is this even they make only content for lategame players this game sucks even more after the update
Bagel great video and advice for making a dragon team or a giant team, my problem is I'm all over the place lvling this random monster or giving these runes to these random monster and I dont no what's a good team to put together out of the monster I have available
That moment when u are playing for almost 5 years and quality of your runes are still pure garbage and you are not even able to beat dragon b11 :/ I was farming everyday and i can't get any good quality 6* 2/4/6 slot rune always 1 and 3 slot FML
@@WessauR But it is, when somehow i manage to get 2/4/6 slot it's always a flat stat. If summoners war had trade system i could easily exchange 11 3slot legendary runes for 1 decent 2/4/6 slot.
when com2us say they want you to have fun doing a dungeon manually using unique strategies according to your monster box they really just want to give you hell.
What stats does the GB12 team need to work? I haven't 2A'd Naomi or Kro yet but I fail often on GB10 with it after getting them all to 6 star maxed with maxed runes, just not great sets yet.
I was so frustrated that i had finally gotten an average time team for gb 10 only for this update to drop and add more floors but then finally after all that grinding i finally was able to do gb 12 and i feel so damn accomplished. I have way less rune quality than this but i came up with a bit of a different team for it which is fran, loren, shannon, acasis and naomi. Wanted to use kro but with all the atb push back from loren the dps from naomi was just way better for me
I just realized that my recently buffed Taor that I've been using in Caiross since 3 years ago has now been given a huge nerf because he just can't crank out damage against these new bosses like the FTP Sigmarus can with HP scaling damage. FeelsBadMan, RIP Taor 2020
You can't rely on vampire lord with 100 acc and max skilled against tormentor b10 because the iq of the ai of this game and the creator are the same. In arknights you can record what you're doing manually then auto it perfectly.
Dont waste ur time on this game you have no chance if ur a casual player it takes really alot of time to progress now they have added even more stuff to farm and grind they must think all sw players have no life or something
You should use the wind mystic witch for the wind dungeon, I don't know if you already have her built but she doesn't seem too bad and is pretty much your only option on f2w
i quit summoners war for a few reasons 1 was pve was boring, this looks like a challenge now. i shall dabble in this game for a while. still want them to make our rune and storage slots bigger!
I think it should be okay to build an "Only Raid Team" on this account to overcome the language barrier. It's not his fault that he can't communicate with chat, and build this account to its maximum potential.
If anyone is looking for a steel fortress b10 speed team and has pungbaek, eirgar pung loren fran raoq is working really well for me. Failed only twice in 30 runs so far and 1:03 best time.
Did someone already testet Gemini as Loren replacement ? (cause of passiv..) begal if your are interested in an acc to show difference between db12 team with twins and no twins can lend mine to you
why do they have buff like , deal 1000000000000000000000000000 dmg but at the same time the monster in t he dungeon also have 1000000000000000000000000000 HP? isnt it finally be the same as if it isnt buff if the monster in the dungeon have "normal" stats as the other dungeon? anyone know? is it just a gimmick? i dunno how to explain what im trying to say -_- , i hope someone understand
me: gets twins. twins: slowly vanishes out of meta
For real tho! I was gonna get shaina from event but now I don't know anymore
Emberlyn Crow I did get Shaina from event haha
Wdym? They are still good for rifts, nb12 and you can use water twins, Loren fran verde for db12
@@yeecksd9744 tried that, not enough strip, and when the boss gets low if you cant Burst that last bit, he wypes you... Maybe with late game runes, but that kind of defeats the purpose.
You obviously don’t play enough
I have t played in a year f2p and I had every normal element 4 star and below
Bagel: yeah that's totally buffed stats
Tomato: oh really that's normal numbers for me
Bagel I really love the fact that you do all the update info really fast, I need opinion and you are always there xD
he is speed. i agree tho, i always need help and like i open youtube and help appears in the form of a video
Why does it make so much sense that this guys viewers still say "xD"
@@bevin3259 literalmente es esta runeado a speed!!! jajajajaja
Giant B12: 10:49 / Dragon B12: 13:15 / Necro B12: 15:26
Absolute legend.
That gb12 looks unstable, if one of the crystals doesn’t go out, the whole team goes 🚮
the db12 looks more unstable if loren doesn't strip ur fucked.
When bagels f2w account has better runes than my 5 year old main account F
big mood
True..
Same. Kinda makes me wanna quit altogether
@ My main account is 6years old I used to farm 14hrs straight for about 3years and my runes are still bad.
@@Smug-Senpai This means you don't know how to keep and roll the right runes.
Thank you.
One thing that was discussed in my main guild: Why try to force b12 now instead of concentrating on artefacts first and then use those to ease the b12 requirements?
I am having trouble with artifact dungeon so i am mainly doing b12 which i can do
Because artefacts dungeons are harder?
@@antonysouza978 They aren't that hard tbh, i got stable 1.30min to 2min safe teams for both as a F2P player
@@cherriagana what monsters do you use
@@isseihyodo4358 For SF i got eirgar/Hwa/argen/raoq/fran, only fails when AI derps so hard you wonder how it ever could have programmed (like eirgar cycling between skill1 and 3).
For PC i went verde/ariel/Rica/raoq/vero and kill the left turret first, i dont like the vero but he is my only dark tank, i have been lucky with getting a rica tho.
You are a really dedicated person bagel. I adore you for that. Thank you for your hardwork troughout the years and may your channel grow even further.
My problem with f2w teams is that while the monsters are easy to get, the rune requirements to make it a consistent team is much higher, so I end up using more 4* mons
"Now we can farm db12 gb12 nb12..." Still stuck in level 10 in all three cuz runes...
I feel your pain
Thank you bagelmon for the fast update video, keep up the good work, and yes, take a break in between the vids, you deserve it, we'll still watch them anyway! 😊
Me: *finally can clear giants and dragons b10*
Com2us: *releases b12 dungeons*
Me: 😐
Don't get me wrong, I'm excited we can finally have dungeons that guranteee 6* runes lul. But my old team can't survive (or barely survives) the new b12/b11 dungeons so im stuck doing b10. Rip my runes.
Yeah i feel you. I think maybe I'll sacrifice damage for hp cuz my dps only have plus 3k health. So frustrating trying to change my runes from b10
@@thelos3999 That's probably why they gave us free rune removal event :/
RIP my dragons b10 team like 80%
yeah and those new dungeons are difficult
b11 doesnt guarantee 6* runes fair warning
Veromos be like: "my time has come"
seriously, he help me make safe g/db12 auto team
Do you remember when we killed giant stacking 9 DoTs? Thoose times came back for some of us...
Orochi has him rune back
Gb10 starter team was still vero bernard shannon darion and bella 😂
The update is bad,
Now i am sad,
Tho my account is close to endgame,
I cant beat ug10 of new bosses on my main.
C2u just wants us to cry,
And sell us new packs that we have to buy.
Its pay2win and will always be,
All that is left for us to see...
Eirgar is now part of the meta family.
My runes arent shit,
So dont fill your comment with it.
My runes are shit, tho, just like a lot of people's as well... and the new dungeon levels are making people like me just quit the game (even if I can clear b12s and whatnot)
Its just p2w in pvp.
Its easy to progress in pve as f2p.
@@ruxbon exactly
nice poem
What server are u on
Here it is! We've been waiting for this video! :)
I was waiting for that video before logging in my acc 😅 love your videos!
What i learned from Artifact dungeons: for Fortress: get chiwu or dark vamp lord for buff block on early then easy nuke (pang helps). For Punisher: boss and towers attack dark mons so dots+ jultan super op combo straight for boss. Both under 1:30 avg
The second stage of the dimensional boss should have a cooldown for the revive...
yeah because then you wont have to rely on one specific monster's survival
First time I seen the thumbnail on this video I yelled "Thats what im talking about Bagel!"
Hey Bagel! What Team did you use for 2A Dungeon?
If you're early game there's nothing for you to look forward to in this update, everything requires good runes and good monsters. Even DH boss is near impossible to beat even with bump in stats. The only thing to really look forward to is the fact that b10s are now slightly easier to do.
Not even midgame players can beat the 2 new dungeons i could beat gb 12 and dragons b11 but the new dungeons only till b6 what is this even they make only content for lategame players this game sucks even more after the update
giants 10:50
Dragons 13:09
necro 15:26
runes 17:48
Is zinc allowed for your free to win? You can get him in the event. He can help you do the wind artifact b10
Bagel great video and advice for making a dragon team or a giant team, my problem is I'm all over the place lvling this random monster or giving these runes to these random monster and I dont no what's a good team to put together out of the monster I have available
That moment when u are playing for almost 5 years and quality of your runes are still pure garbage and you are not even able to beat dragon b11 :/
I was farming everyday and i can't get any good quality 6* 2/4/6 slot rune always 1 and 3 slot FML
Can't be possible
@@WessauR But it is, when somehow i manage to get 2/4/6 slot it's always a flat stat. If summoners war had trade system i could easily exchange 11 3slot legendary runes for 1 decent 2/4/6 slot.
Total Overdose yes! I get more flat stat 6 star leg runes than I get the atk% hp% cd% 6 star leg
Oof, because D12 is much much worse.
I got sub 1 min D11 but I can't even beat D12 at all so far.
well you're in luck because the b12 dungeons give 100% chance for 6* rune if it drops a rune
I love your videos but I have a question. When everyone pre-registered with the email when will we get the scrolls?
I love how Bagel keeps showing me his free to win account that looks way better than my main that i had for years lol.
Video begins at 10:50
I got finessed with the monthly boss.. i thought i beat it then 2 more bosses appeared
when com2us say they want you to have fun doing a dungeon manually using unique strategies according to your monster box they really just want to give you hell.
What stats does the GB12 team need to work? I haven't 2A'd Naomi or Kro yet but I fail often on GB10 with it after getting them all to 6 star maxed with maxed runes, just not great sets yet.
Supa OP Bagel, great job good sir!!
Bagel I saw you in an add for another gacha type game yesterday and asked myself if I’ve played summoners war lately 😂
I was so frustrated that i had finally gotten an average time team for gb 10 only for this update to drop and add more floors but then finally after all that grinding i finally was able to do gb 12 and i feel so damn accomplished. I have way less rune quality than this but i came up with a bit of a different team for it which is fran, loren, shannon, acasis and naomi. Wanted to use kro but with all the atb push back from loren the dps from naomi was just way better for me
I just realized that my recently buffed Taor that I've been using in Caiross since 3 years ago has now been given a huge nerf because he just can't crank out damage against these new bosses like the FTP Sigmarus can with HP scaling damage.
FeelsBadMan, RIP Taor 2020
10 reasons why it's not late to start playing summoners war: 1- We want your money
You can't rely on vampire lord with 100 acc and max skilled against tormentor b10 because the iq of the ai of this game and the creator are the same. In arknights you can record what you're doing manually then auto it perfectly.
lmao the creator iq, nice one
@@aditm4 i had to bring in chiwu with vampire, martina, loren and deva/shaina to make the runs sturdier.
Hey Jewbagel. Just want to know the speed of your monsters on db12. Thanks
I use the old school gb12 team, it’s slow but it’s working till now. Vero, fran, Loren, shannon and kro. avg time 2:30 but no failure till now
Speedybagel makes a comeback! Thats how we like it! 👌🏻🙌🏻
Hi I just started playing summoner War and watching your videos is helpful for a noob lol
Dont waste ur time on this game you have no chance if ur a casual player it takes really alot of time to progress now they have added even more stuff to farm and grind they must think all sw players have no life or something
Dragon Sky I notice that ngl but it’s fun I only play when I have time
You should use the wind mystic witch for the wind dungeon, I don't know if you already have her built but she doesn't seem too bad and is pretty much your only option on f2w
Who elses lushen decided to not work after the update lol
Awesome as always.
Light chakram will be very usefull for those b12 dungeons and light pirate captain will reck the wind dungeon
You are the man bagel! 🥯
Yeaaaah was waiting for this
Yeah I had some recording issues, so I didn't get it out asafp like I wanted to :/ next one coming soon though, already recorded just editing now :)
im interested to see if the fire inugamis are still going to dominate
Can't wait for the full Raoq doing db12 & nb12!!
didn't expect anything less Bagel !:)
"In that one" 😮
bagel, your mixing me up here
That dragon team with spectra is not 100%, coz spectra misses a lot her third skill and loren derps A LOT
I'm surprised loren striped TWICE. My loren NEVER strips even with max accuracy on dungeon
Oh hell yeah I'm early!also thanks for your sleep sacrifice bagel
i quit summoners war for a few reasons 1 was pve was boring, this looks like a challenge now. i shall dabble in this game for a while. still want them to make our rune and storage slots bigger!
The resistance on these 12s is crazy
Great, one more goal for me, I havent even completed gb10 yet qwq
Did people get the Pre Registration reward yet? I think it was 5 ms. i didnt
No Not out yet
i already retired almost 9 month, damn i eager to come back.
Don't, you wont be able to do any of the new content unless you're super end game.
@@swallowingacid ?????
@@swallowingacid what? Lol
I think it should be okay to build an "Only Raid Team" on this account to overcome the language barrier. It's not his fault that he can't communicate with chat, and build this account to its maximum potential.
>Tries to use the same team for Dimension Predator
>Gets blasted
Runes definitely fucking matter, despite what Com2Us says.
If anyone is looking for a steel fortress b10 speed team and has pungbaek, eirgar pung loren fran raoq is working really well for me. Failed only twice in 30 runs so far and 1:03 best time.
Me, not using Fran nor Loren: *chuckles* I'm in danger.
i mean fran and loren are useless in the new punisher dungeon
But like for GB DB and NB12 tho
@@TheWitchChild
I only use Fran and its enough!
Shaina, Sabrina, Talia and Kro ... easy ~ 1 minute rune
Guessing Shaina 6*? What turn order and rune requirements? Also what dungeon? cx
Silia is op in steel fortress! I highly recommend using her
Bagel, could you please share min stats for DB12?
The video that i'm waiting for
For free to win, consider building Sylia, the wind Megan for crypt and guardian.
Giant's miniboss still has 10000% resistance
Master bagel sandwich pls do guide.. im stuck lol
Just put my team to shame with f2p. Can't do db12 yet so I guess artifact farming for me first. Love the content
Did someone already testet Gemini as Loren replacement ? (cause of passiv..) begal if your are interested in an acc to show difference between db12 team with twins and no twins can lend mine to you
yo JB? u probably dont know but to sleep is no crime :D
Meh can't sleep until I get like 2 more videos out :) Sleep isn't the priority :)
Wait you are so fucking fast I LIKE IT
This is what I'm waiting for
Need a video on steel fortress and punisher crypt teams
I feel the same when I couldn't do B10s
Can your main still quad raoq gb12?
I feel kinda cheated. They said gb12 will always give 6*. Then its like every 2 runs the 3rd always gets rune pieces or other non rune stuffs.
Team for Steel Fortress B10 I figured out is
Eirgar Fran Loren Kro Brandia
Finally I have a purpose to build my Brandia
this team doesnt work at all on dragon...
fire beast hunter does very good in steel fortress and now i am regretting of not even saving one of them☹
There's an sd for that.
You should be able to do the artifact ones with 3 stars Megan and the wind witch have block bene
the only update guide I watch
I don't care about the update,is autodungeons available yet? Or I still have to press start ?
Game has always had auto play but you mean the continues auto play. Not yet and they was only thinking about it
@@whocaresreallywho2464 yea that's what I meant,or like auto giants for example until no energy somthing like that
I just want to see if the quad roaq teams still work
Bagel not sleeping today :D
still having trouble with dragons and necro and i have decent runes a little help on making more reliable
for dhole, bring one midboss to low health, then the other, theb kill both
Are twins still viable in dungeons? I already quit the game but I have to know 😂
Not as much, still good for rift beast and necro, but not any new content
my quad spd runes all came from rune packs. but now that we get guaranteed 6* runes rune packs wont be as necessary tbh
why do they have buff like , deal 1000000000000000000000000000 dmg but at the same time the monster in t he dungeon also have 1000000000000000000000000000 HP? isnt it finally be the same as if it isnt buff if the monster in the dungeon have "normal" stats as the other dungeon? anyone know? is it just a gimmick? i dunno how to explain what im trying to say -_- , i hope someone understand
zinc for f2p block beneficial effects :D
What mobs can I replace for Imp and wind cat=??
Can someone explain to me how does he remove immunity from dragon?
Nice
i cant do the giant b12 pls help me (same team dont have the imp water
)
I AM SOOOO EXCITED FOR THE UPDATE I HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE IT WAS ANONCED I CANT WAIT
I need some counceling. 2 months in and no Naomi. Like wtf bro
I give up on the DH monthly boss because of Mr Dick and Ms Hole revive + cc resist mechanics...
I got a slot4 legend will hp% on my first run of necro b12 😁😁😁
Congrats!
Bagel build a 2a shaman (light griffon) he is a game changer in nb12 with +30spd full crd cr atk build.