Austrian F1 GP Race Review 2024

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  • @lewis8552
    @lewis8552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Haas had such a great weekend. Before the season everyone thought they were going to be dead last and no where. Today they just beat a Red Bull.
    Not enough has been said at how well that team is operating this year given where they were last year, unable to last on the tyres. Doing an incredible job given their size as the smallest team on the grid.

    • @stuffeyy
      @stuffeyy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, I wrote them off at the start of the season but credit where its due they are doing a great job

  • @94notyou
    @94notyou 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    just looked at the incident again and Max didn't push Norris on the grass after the incident, he was going in a straight line the entire time and it was Norris who still had some air in the tire trying to get around Max and ended up on the grass himself.

    • @matthewd6306
      @matthewd6306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Your not allowed to say that, it goes against the Max Bad narrative. Were supposed to ignore when Lando forced Max off in Spain and forces him off in T3.

  • @thebanaap
    @thebanaap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a pretty good panel but it's missing the voice of reason Matt Trumpets who can act as a counterbalance to the man with the Hamilton poster removed 50 cm from his face who has a strong anti-Verstappen bias.

  • @bunkermunk1707
    @bunkermunk1707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    By his own admission Spanners strongly dislikes Norris. This is the first time in 5 years of watching Missed Apex that Spanners has EVER defended anything Verstappen has done on track. What we have here folks is a perfect example of the principal, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

  • @randyetc5801
    @randyetc5801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Max is making a difference between moving under braking and moving in the braking zone. As he said he moves when he isn't braking

    • @mrtruth5192
      @mrtruth5192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The rule is about reacting to the drivers behind.
      You can clearly see him waiting for the driver behind to Max his move...then max decides his line and brakes.
      That's the issue, any long term fan of racing can see why that isn't allowed.
      If every car did that, there would be no overtaking at all because every driver could legally block the car behind.

  • @JerRou89
    @JerRou89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I really like listening to your show, but the way all of you (except Spanners) bash Max into the ground is a bit unfortunate. We all know Max drives to the limit, sometimes right on it and sometimes over it. But isn't that exactly what we want to see? I really loved seeing some real action during the race, instead of a boring DRS passing fest.
    Also, how many "dive bombs" can you remember from Max where he locked his wheels, and lost total control several laps repeatly? It was cool to see Lando trying to pass Max, but it felt out of control. He lost his temper like he did in Barcelona, where he also lost the race because of that. You can obviously see he isn't ready to be a championship contender yet.
    Even if you say Max was getting a taste of his own medicine, why was it wrong when he did it to other drivers but now that Lando is doing it, you suddenly feel it's right? That's a double standard. Stay objective. If you didn't like it then, you shouldn't like it now.
    Bringing back 2021 (where Max and Lewis both crossed the line in several races) and saying Verstappen can't cope with pressure feels biased:
    First of all: why are we still talking about 3 years ago, come on guys?
    Secondly: if someone has proven they can cope with pressure, it's Max. There are countless races where he has shown this superbly. The fact that he doesn't give any presents to other drivers and drives to the max every time is one of his great qualities. For me, it's great to see and one of the reasons why he is at the level he is.
    Also, the "Verstappen rule" you often talk about in several episodes was deleted a few years ago.
    No, I'm not saying Verstappen is blameless, but Norris wasn't driving clean either. If you're really talking about 2021, you should know better. When Lewis started driving dirty, Max got dirty too. You reap what you sow.
    You should watch the anlayse from Peter Windsor, he analysed the situation very well without biased opions.

    • @benbennemans
      @benbennemans 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Lol, when did you start watching this show? It has and always will bash Max into the ground. Spanners is not defending Max. He cleverly presents weak objections from the more reasonable folks to the anti-Max pundits HE selected for the show, so they can take all the time to deal with them in the best way they can, hoping to defuse them. This influences the opinions and minds of people far more effectively. Spanners has never allowed a voice that sticks up for Max on his show. Spanners called Max a villain in a tweet for basically nothing (even Russell called it a racing incident, something that happens all the time, a friend from Norris), but the way Spanners goes after Max in his podcast, he might be one himself. Carrying this agenda for so long is not healthy.

    • @carolarouw4917
      @carolarouw4917 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I completly agree with you. Love the show, also to get different points of view. But the making Max the devil incarnated is sometimes a bit much.

    • @mrtruth5192
      @mrtruth5192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your last paragraph completely confirms your bias. "When lewis started racing dirty, max did too".

    • @danilicious2308
      @danilicious2308 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mrtruth5192nice way to admit you've got no actual argument against his comments, so you resort to this

  • @jinnie9880
    @jinnie9880 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love Christian’s input on the podcast! Hoping to see him more often on the show

    • @FrogmanKouki
      @FrogmanKouki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Always love seeming him on the podcast, I love his humor.

  • @matthewd6306
    @matthewd6306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    @19:50 "Max was given sufficient room" what a load of BS. This guy has a massive hate bonet for Verstappen. Lando left 0 room for Max and forced him off, if Max didnt go off track then Lando would have crashed into him. Similar to what Lando did to Max in Spain last week yet that was Actually dangerous. Pushed Max into the grass at 180mph. As for the crash intself Max left plenty of room for Lando, something Lando didn't do. And he didnt move under braking. Go back and look at the areial shot.

    • @nathansteele2788
      @nathansteele2788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Max isnt gonna love you back dude

  • @jameskane6124
    @jameskane6124 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Some of these comments are detached from reality. Love the show guys, keep up the great work.

    • @danilicious2308
      @danilicious2308 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of the comments in the show are just as detached. I like the show, but this time they're nothing but a bunch of turnips.

  • @matthewd6306
    @matthewd6306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It was a racing incident. As for the collision I give it 60% Max 40% Lando fault. But Lando Dive Bombed Max twice to where Max had to take evasive action, something Max has done before and was Heavily criticized for. The difference here is Max is mature and seasouned enough to move out the way and not be so stubborn. Lando also drove Max off the straight in Spain and wasnt penalized. Max mentioned it in the radio but dropped it. No crying about it. Lando needs to grow up. He's also to blame for what happened.

    • @ToneHelix97
      @ToneHelix97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Max needs to shut up about dive bombing for about 3-4 years. Only then the score can get even on that statistic, and then we will talk about dive bombing.

  • @JoshFarrar-xr7ri
    @JoshFarrar-xr7ri 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spanners, I’m a big fan of the show. I appreciate that it’s a fan show and that the panelists bring their biases. But I think you’re getting extra flack on this one because Stuffy is foaming at the mouth with blatant bias toward anyone that’s a challenger to HAM. Max is immature? And he’s incapable of handling a challenge? (In the “correct” way, presumably?) Did anyone see the last five races? This is hyperbole and undermines his credibility. And when the other panelists just nod in approval, it makes it seem like the purpose of the panel is to shit on Max. But I give you lots of credit, Spanners, I think you knew that was coming and you diligently defended the counter position. I’ll certainly keep coming back. But maybe give Stuffy some notes 😉

    • @missedapexf1
      @missedapexf1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The negative comments are just the normal practice if that part of the Verstappen fan base. Been getting it for years and years. It won't have any effect my content

    • @thelexer76
      @thelexer76 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@missedapexf1that’s fine but even Norris backtracked from his post race comments. The comments on Max were well over the top

  • @Surfsaus
    @Surfsaus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The FIA cost Piastri a race win. He wasnt over the track limit line in qualifying (the whole car needs to be over the line and the back wheel was clearly in) which wasn't needed in the first place as there was a gravel trap. Lando needs to learn some patience, you dont beat max going gung ho and getting emotional. All Lando needed to do was sit in the drs behind max until the final lap in which case max's tyres would have dropped off a cliff.

  • @matthewd6306
    @matthewd6306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    @24:50 Whats this guy's opinion of Lando forcing Max off into the grass @ Spain at 180mph. Should that be a disqualification? Or is that ok because it wasnt Max pushing a driver off? Genuine question for these haters.

    • @missedapexf1
      @missedapexf1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We all think that was bad

    • @rk-wy8pu
      @rk-wy8pu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@missedapexf1 Well you didn't end up making a one hour video about that one then and asking for penalities??? Hypocritical much?

  • @matthewmanzi9504
    @matthewmanzi9504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Watching the overhead shows it was a racing incident between max and lando. Sucks as they are my two favorite drivers but neither were giving the other any inch and they came together. Lando had room but would have been pushed to the edge if he moved over and max did move left but that is the normal line for that corner. Great racing and it’s too bad tires got pinched.

    • @stuffeyy
      @stuffeyy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You cannot move into a space that is occupied by another car regardless of whether it is the racing line. Max got penalised for that by the stewards.

    • @matthewmanzi9504
      @matthewmanzi9504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually after rewatching after hearing what Peter Windsor had to say, mac didn’t move under braking but went straight once he entered the braking zone. Really looks like a racing incident to me and the penalty is really because Lando got knocked out it if the race. Not how they are suppose to give them but that’s how it’s always done.

    • @Jongo1
      @Jongo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@matthewmanzi9504 Did he go through the on boards? I've watched them about 20x now it's clear as day Max slows down in the braking zone, THEN turns. This being for the incident he was penalised for.

    • @Dragonpuncher123
      @Dragonpuncher123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jongo1 He did, but Max' argument (that Spanners also semi makes here) is that he is only moving after he is done breaking. If that is actually allowed under the rules is something we still don't know for sure.

  • @thesaintscorner4490
    @thesaintscorner4490 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The only one who knows how to drive wheel to wheel vs max is Charles Leclerc❤

  • @elizabethfrancisco4050
    @elizabethfrancisco4050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spanners’ Missed Apex of the week was music to my ears!!!

    • @arjenkersing
      @arjenkersing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It ruptured my eardrums. 45 minutes of pure max bashing... you feel the hatred coming through the mics...

  • @matthewd6306
    @matthewd6306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Vettel did the same to Lewis in 2018 at turn 3, and Sainz did the same to Max just last year except Sainz forced Max so wide in the entry to t3 that Max had to go over the curbs. Max left more than a cars width in entry, did he "mOvE uNdEr BrAkInG", technically yes. He moved about half a meter as he opened up the corner. Did he Squeeze Lando? Absolutely not. Fuck off with this "MaX cAnT gO wHeEl tO WhEeL" BS. Every driver on the grid has done the exact same thing without incident. Lando was being childish and stubborn and didnt move, yet Max moved 3x for Landos dive bombs and he moved when Lando pushed him off into the grass in Spain which was 10x more dangerous yet nobody seem to care.

  • @rensvanderploeg1945
    @rensvanderploeg1945 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Funny, everybody loves the divebombing of Ricciardo, now find excuses for Lando, but still finds it bad of Verstappen doing it. It is bloody F1 racing

    • @mrtruth5192
      @mrtruth5192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Max himself was on the radio complaining about the divebombs.

  • @luciddaze248
    @luciddaze248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the 100's of million dollars in Mexican red bull drink sales are more significant than sponsorship.. did some research but hard to put a figure on it.

    • @chrisgreen3100
      @chrisgreen3100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      perez brings $16m ?

  • @bmwman63
    @bmwman63 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Call me wrong, You won't be the first. I just think the C4 is liked by teams more than the C3. It just seems this year, teams has shown a little hesitancy in going to the C3. They like to wait for another car to put them on and see how they do.

  • @manuag3886
    @manuag3886 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great analysis

  • @SakibLH44
    @SakibLH44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Awesome work and very fair analysis. Love you guys!

  • @madjayax731
    @madjayax731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This clashed happen because the steward back there in 2019 said to Max what was actual wrong was right. If you say right to the wrong doing a person does, he will keep doing it.

  • @HuffleZPuffle
    @HuffleZPuffle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My god, these comments. Thank you for the reasonable analysis of this incident, I hardly think there's unreasonable hate of bias in these arguments. It's absolutely fair to say that moving under braking and blocking is against the rules and how F1 drives all agree to race -- driving in a way that violates the rules isn't clever or brilliant driving, it's jist unfair and starts to come across desperate when you look at the context. Completely agree on punishing unsportsmanlike behavior.
    Missed Matt this show though

  • @minimead368
    @minimead368 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you listen to the onboard audio of max’s car engine, it’s dropping through the revs before he then moves in reaction to Lando, proving max moved under braking, in the braking zone, in reaction to Lando’s move

  • @antonysnook4932
    @antonysnook4932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to see what goes on in the stewards room. Sometimes i think they fall asleep and have a afternoon nap during the Grandprix.

  • @ben-g314
    @ben-g314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Bunch of whiners... this is exactly why the sport is popular now.. It all exploded after 2021. It has becoming extremely boring last years. Just be happy there is some drama. Everyone adores Senna but he did these same things..

    • @ramon1809
      @ramon1809 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😢biased softies

    • @ben-g314
      @ben-g314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After 2021 all the events where sold out.. miami and las vegas where added. Etc etc So yes F1 exploded after 2021. 2022 was a dissapointment from a neutral fan perspective and its in a downfall ever since... ​@@puckloki873

    • @hughesdan94
      @hughesdan94 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Stop listening if you don’t like it jeez!
      Yes the battles might be dramatic, but the majority of people want hard BUT fair racing.

    • @ben-g314
      @ben-g314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Im willing to bet that if Lando did what Max did. Everyone here would say that was epic. This is how you race Max. Great job Lando... he is learning to be WDC. In Austria you saw Lando is not ready for a title fight.... in my opinion it was hard and fair. Its called racing. You know why the Fia doesnt gives out penalties? Because it would kill all excitement ​@@hughesdan94

    • @joshflynn2173
      @joshflynn2173 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      max fan spotted

  • @terencetable1147
    @terencetable1147 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look at the onboatd from Verstappen: did he steer to the left?! Nopes, but oh no "Verstappen didn't mature the last 2,5 years"

  • @tomambrosio5527
    @tomambrosio5527 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I started watching until halfway through and then went back to it at the end and wad like "WTF?" I knew at that moment. I'd have to rely on Missed Apex to tell me whose fault it was.

  • @Ian-y9f
    @Ian-y9f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I'm sorry but you Brits are very disingenuous. All the races Max wins nobody ever discusses his driving, now 1 single movement out of his line and it's all hell breaking loose. So sad how you all can't recognize the ridiculous bias.

    • @missedapexf1
      @missedapexf1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I opened last weeks show talking about how his performance near perfect and praised the control of the final laps.

    • @Ian-y9f
      @Ian-y9f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can agree with you on that one. As the moderator I do see that you, while being an LH fan, have been providing some acknowledgement of Max recently. However, all of the guests you invite are staunchly against MV and barely mentions he is in the races until some so called adversity happens so they can talk negatively about his racing like today. You need to have more balance on your show.

    • @missedapexf1
      @missedapexf1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I'll just make the show I want to make.

    • @KennyWu24
      @KennyWu24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@missedapexf1hahaha. Perfect response. LoL. It is HYSTERICAL that people think they are that important where they’d have input over how you do a show. LoL. Make your own show if you want it a certain way. We watch because we like the content. Get over yourselves. Good lord.

    • @marianne1555
      @marianne1555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@missedapexf1 👋

  • @antonysnook4932
    @antonysnook4932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spanners nice tan you must of been somewhere hot. You cant get that kind of sun in England.

    • @missedapexf1
      @missedapexf1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can lol. WE had hot weather last week and I was mostly off work

    • @antonysnook4932
      @antonysnook4932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@missedapexf1 I am in Toronto Ontario Canada and it is 23c

  • @Roosie010
    @Roosie010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Spanners, loved watching your show for a few years, but this show was hatefull, especially the loser in the white shirt.
    What was Max supposed to do, let Lando pass because he is close? No. Driving close is one thing, but overtake is another thing, that's racing. Where did Lando had more speed or could place a clean overtake?
    Lando is a crybaby, knowing he's not good enough.

    • @ladyblabla3611
      @ladyblabla3611 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeah such a iritating person. He hates Max and cant stand he is the new goat. (look at the wall .he is a Lewis fanboy that still is stuck in 21)

    • @stuffeyy
      @stuffeyy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What was Max supposed to do??
      How about not move under braking which is against the rules and brake that trust between him and Lando. He is entitled to defend, but in a clean and fair manner as the rules allow, yesterday he didn't.

  • @philkakid5617
    @philkakid5617 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just don't understand the hate for George Russell! He's outqualified Hamilton 10-2 this season, is the only Mercedes driver to win a race since the regulation change, and yet he still gets so much stick! Why?!

  • @michaelhoeft483
    @michaelhoeft483 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The British fanboy podcast. The car with a tire off the rim pulled to the side and out of the fast lane at 15 mph but that was attempted Norris murder race ban material 😂

  • @barraboy7626
    @barraboy7626 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I listen to your shows on a podcast stream whilst driving to and from work. This ep really pissed me off to be honest! which led me to search it up on TH-cam to get my eyes on you mob...
    My assumption was right your all young pups and clearly have been watching F1 for a short time.
    Your British bias is pathetic and detrimental to your show.
    This was meant to be a review of the Austrian GP and all you spoke about was your GB fan boys and how Max beat up on them. OP finished 2nd in both the sprint and the race but your spoke nothing. LN got overtaken by Oscar outright and Lando couldn't get back past him. And for that matter couldn't get past Max.
    Again, you praised GR for his win yet OP drive from 7th to be up his backside filling his mirrors across the line.
    Danny Ric beat YS in last two races, what else can he do except start to beat his team mate which he's done back to back.
    Kick SP out of Red Bull and give Lawson a seat against Max.
    Look past your own nose and cover other drivers.
    Cheers🍻🐊

    • @missedapexf1
      @missedapexf1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol. 55 43 32 and 28

    • @barraboy7626
      @barraboy7626 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your reply confirms my suspicion, you are a spanner...

    • @michaelhansen2309
      @michaelhansen2309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@missedapexf1 I never would gave guessed Spanners! You don't look a day over 54! 😂 (just kidding)

  • @bearlikex
    @bearlikex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Bashing Max is not going to get you points. Yall soft.

    • @stuffeyy
      @stuffeyy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We are not "bashing" we are criticising a drivers actions that weren't acceptable as the stewards also deemed unacceptable hence the penalty. No driver is ever above criticism.

  • @marianne1555
    @marianne1555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks guys I never miss your podcast neither Stuffeyy F1 live Watchalong. 👍
    Thanks Richard for mentioning 2021, what irks me more is that nothing has been done to stop MV dangerous and bullying driving style except for F1XED channel
    As long as nothing officially is done to prevent this, Verstappen will continue.
    As he was in dominant car nothing happened for those 2 past years but he hasn't changed.
    Great jobs to all 😊

  • @mrtruth5192
    @mrtruth5192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bunch of cry babies in the comments, lol
    Relax! And remember, their opinions can't hurt you!

  • @ladyblabla3611
    @ladyblabla3611 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Lando is just not good enough. He will never be a world champion. Piastri will be.

    • @Vislow
      @Vislow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

  • @inviz88
    @inviz88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah Lewis had to give his place back to Sainz but why can't he get back past him? Hamilton fans are brainless.

    • @Alisisme
      @Alisisme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He had floor damaged that made him lost 3tenth per lap.

    • @philkakid5617
      @philkakid5617 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And whose fault was that?​@@Alisisme

  • @David19-26-l5s
    @David19-26-l5s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    King George

  • @mrtruth5192
    @mrtruth5192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Max is ultra talented, no doubt. He's one of the fastest f1 drivers in history.
    ...but his race craft generally sucks. 90 percent of his overtakes are "yeild or we crash dive" bombs. And 90% of his defenses are "yeild or we crash" blocking and or pushing people off track.
    But his defenders are insane, they dont see the irony in the rubbish that they spout.
    I mean just look at all these comments. The same people complaining about your take, are in the same breath complaining about landos dive bombs.
    So dive bombs suck (unless its max)
    They complain about lando pushing him off track, and think max should keep the position. (Unless max pushes lewis off track abu dahbi, and lewis keeps the position. Of course in that scenario, he should hand that back to Max).
    They like Max's yeild or we crash style antics. (Until some puts Max in a yeild or we crash scenario...cough...Silverstone...cough) 😂
    At the moment they seem to think moving while braking is perfectly fine when defending...but who wants to bet their opinion will change when lando starts doing that to Max.
    Much like you guys, while i dont want more of Max's style of racing, i can admit it's entertaining. And I don't blame Max at all, it's learned behaviour.
    On a side note. Keep up the good work guys. This is pretty much the only F1 podcast I listen to now and listen to it every week!

  • @David19-26-l5s
    @David19-26-l5s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scott is such a George russell Hater

    • @GloomGaiGar
      @GloomGaiGar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good! that means this podcast is real. No BS fence sitting