How to Legally Check In Your Gun and Firearms with Delta Airlines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2021
- Whether you are a hunter, sportsman, or simply don’t want to be a victim of the latest criminals who ignore gun laws, this video hopefully entertains you. As lawful gun owners that continue to be punished with more laws for each criminal, this video is a quick explanation on how I was able to legally fly with my firearm in the United States with Delta Airlines. Other airlines have similar processes. As always, please check with your state laws, airline policies, and the TSA for the most up to date info. Don't forget to like and subscribe!
Steps I follow:
1) Know the laws, federal, state, city jurisdictions (departing and arriving)
2) Know the airline rules
3) Check-in process, use the right case and locks, empty your magazines, empty the chamber, all ammo in the manufacturer's ammunition box
4) Check-out process, collecting your luggage with the Delta baggage ground agent. Have your ID and luggage tag.
Gun case
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Small locks
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Excellent! Will use in 2 days.
How did it go?
@@permaculturefarmfamily8447 flawless through Delta. Thanks for the great video!!
FYI...It's a violation of 49 CFR § 1540.111(c)(2)(iv) to use TSA approved locks on a case containing firearms. It doesn't matter what the screener said to you (there is no such thing as a TSA "agent").
While their website does say you can use TSA locks OR non-TSA locks, their website is not correct and does not carry the force of law (nor does their website override 49 CFR § 1540.111(c)(2)(iv)).
Further, if you happen to also be transporting Title II firearms, it's also a violation of 26 U.S. Code § 5861(d) for the TSA to access the case without the owner present.
It’s not just read tsa web site and understand lock manufacturing - the templates exist in manufacturers design plans. It doesn’t mean every lock is a violation, including TSA locks. DOJ approved TSA language on the TSA web site which specifically states that TSA locks are okay, and that your statement is absolutely wrong. People like keyboard warrior skills on TH-cam and not reading or engaging with DOJ, which is harder.
Thought it was going to be complicated…this is a lot easier than expected given you follow their guidelines. Thank you!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS SIMPLE!!!!!! I'm gonna share this.
Thanks for the demonstration!
Very helpful, thanks for all the details 🙂
Thank you Sir. I have not flown with a weapon as a civilian in over 30 years. I was not sure how much has changed.
Thank you for the informative video, I will be traveling in 6 days and using your information. Thank you
Great video! Thank you for this.
Thanks so much. About to use in the morning.
This is very helpful thank you
Good Information
Thank you
Thanks… Need a .45 at my ranch in Montana when I’m there… It’s remote so don’t want to leave there when I’m away…
Good info. Never flew with a firearm and I will be going to Vegas in December. Today, in Vegas, a nutcase stabbed 8, killing 2 and it reminded me that I need to bring my protection to Sin City.
Currently getting info now. I’m going to Vegas in May and want to be prepared
Bring your ccw every where you can. It's a hassle worth taking.
just a quick question is it posable for a regular box for the ammunition if you dont not have the box for the ammunition?
Since this video title specifically mentions Delta, viewers should be aware that at least at some airports Delta is enforcing a policy different from that listed on their website. Previously it has always been acceptable (and apparently still is with all other airlines) to use a large hard sided container, such as a Pelican case, for your luggage and simply place the gun in this along with other items (clothes, camera equipment, etc.) and lock the whole case. On Delta’s website this option is explicitly listed as allowed: “Firearms must be packed in a locked manufacturer's hard-sided container specifically designed for the firearm, a locked hard-sided gun case or a locked hard-sided piece of luggage.”
However, I have seen reports from others, and also experienced myself, that for the last several months Delta has not been allowing this option. Instead, they are requiring that you use a small locked case that then is placed inside your unlocked luggage, even though their site goes on to say this: “Handguns may be packed in a locked hard-sided gun case, and then packed inside an unlocked soft-sided piece of luggage. However, a Conditional Acceptance Tag must be used in this case.”
If you don’t know this before you get to the airport and try to check your locked hard sided luggage with a gun inside, but not also inside a smaller locked gun case, you will be turned away. If you can’t return to your car and leave your gun behind, and get back in time, you will miss your flight and not be eligible for any refund of your fair.
While using this method to fly with firearms is legal and has been very popular with people who either transport multiple firearms, or other valuable equipment along with their firearm, for decades, and even though their own written policy still posted on their website explicitly allows it, Delta is barring this method of transport at least at several, if not all, airports.
The method we particularly use here is using a small locked case inside the luggage. So it shouldn't be a problem. Long arms such as rifles typically are allowed in the longer hard-sided containers.
Flying into and out of New York City seems to be very tricky due to the varying laws. I want to take my weapon down south for a hunt but I’m skeptical
Don't. Please tell me you didn't. NYC required a license for everything.
@@randomstuff508 I didn’t. I was going to fly out of macarthur airport Instead
@jeffreywashington5461 that's good lol. NYC sucks.
did you need any firearm related id / permits ? I live in chicago, illinois . so it's a bit different
We don’t fly AND carry to states that require those, so nothing has been asked of us.
Thank you for this very clear and thorough video! Much appreciated
I'll be using the info here. I have a question. Will there be any complication if my firearm is the ONLY thing I'm checking? I'll have a carry-on, but no checked luggage other than my firearm. As long as it's properly secured they should accept as is by itself, correct?
Rifles are checked in by themselves since they don't fit in luggages. As long as they fit and they don't open if someone forcefully tries to open it, you'll be fine. The lock should be fit to where it doesn't allow just a random Joe to take the firearm through brute force.
I'll be travelling with a secured pistol only. No luggage and not a long gun. Will they check the pistol case on its own and transport it that way?
@@robdanner3833 Yes it will be fine.
How did the experience turn out for you? I'm in a similar situation wanting to fly my CC but all my essentials are in my carry on.
@@shinymarshtop2 It couldn't have been easier. As long as you verbally declare at the counter and follow instructions it'll be smooth. I think the worst part is having to go to baggage claim when you land and retrieving your weapon. Depending on where you are and who you get, it could take a while and you might get treated with a little bit of "distance". I used my own locks without any issue.
What about long guns such as shotguns? Would that be considered another checked bag since you can’t fit it inside your normal luggage?
You can find their instructions on the web site, key differences are the size and usually involves hard shell case that's separate from your normal luggage.
Did delta charge the gun as a separate checked in luggage? Bc I have 2 and spoke with customer service. She didn't give me certainty on what it would cost, but told me that just the gun case alone was a 3rd checked luggage
It would be a piece of luggage and the answer to your question is highly dependent on your fare, baggage allowance, and any special perks like credit card / free luggage perks or loyalty status.
What if I’m transporting to Africa. How does that work with the country it’s going to??
Going with your firearm to other countries is another layer of paperwork and export laws. Here’s a good start: www.ice.gov/investigations/astp/faq
Does the firearm have to be registered under your name in order to fly with it ? I bought mine 3rd party and haven’t the need to register it under my name
For my travel they did not check who owned the gun, receipts, etc. In fact, it is illegal for any government entity, or public or private individual to knowingly keep any list, record, or registry of privately owned firearms or any list, record, or registry of the owners of those firearms per Florida Statute §790.335(2).
What if I don’t have the original box of bullets but I have a different bullet box for other ammo
Just needs to be an ammo box.
so , when its time to claim my luggage when i get off my flight. Since i have a firearm in it. It wont be transported to the normal luggage claim? I would have to go somewhere different ?
Depends on the airport and airline. Delta in many cases isolates it for the passenger. Other airlines will just leave it on the normal luggage area like everyone else.
@@permaculturefarmfamily8447 Okay Nice , I'm flying delta. i always fly delta
Would this apply to travel to Puerto Rico since it’s US territory?
Check with lawyers, but quick search shows PR has reciprocity with 14+ states, so the answer is as always “it depends”.
What if a thief or something steals my gun and they try to fly out of state with it, does delta check if its stolen? Like how do they know the person is the rightful owner or are they not worried about all of that.
Delta wouldn’t know what’s stolen or not in any luggage compartment for any luggage item. They don’t check if a laptop is stolen nor a gun or any other item. Their job is to fly you and your luggage from point A to B.
I always heard to use padlocks that TSA CANNOT access?
Nope TSA said they are fine with it (read tsa web site) this false notion that they can’t access your luggage with some other random lock is false. In fact, they have every right to break your case to inspect.
I meant the locks on the weapon case.
@@frklein1 TSA.gov provides guidance for this that their locks are allowed. You can read through the comments below for further discussion.
@@jonvanwyk2026 No it doesn’t violate the law, most locks have manufacturer templates and going anal over that isn’t where the DOJ landed with the advisory on literally tsa.gov
Do you have to have a lock on your regular luggage bag?
No but a TSA lock on those would be helpful imo.
Do I need my ccw or conceal carry license or just my regular driving license ID
Pistol permit etc?
Normal ID that’s part of checkin process. Obviously make sure you know local laws in your jurisdiction.
How does this process work if you have a layover? I'm flying with a firearm for the first time soon, also on Delta.I have a layover in Salt Lake City.
The primary issue is the worse case scenario: you are on a layover and you are in a jurisdiction that doesn’t respect gun rights, and somehow the flights are cancelled and you need your luggage with you for the temporary hotel stay. Outside of that, layovers have no extra concerns or steps. (As always, check with proper legal counsel for advice.)
@@permaculturefarmfamily8447 so the luggage is just transferred to the next plane, or do I have to re-check my bag into tsa?
@@secondlibertygunclub924 its auto transferred no need to recheck
@@permaculturefarmfamily8447 thank you!
@secondlibertygunclub924 if you get into a situation btw where you are staying overnight, outright refuse to take back your luggage.
Don't even touch your bag. Tell them to reroute it for you.
Do your checked luggage , have to be a tsa luggage ?
No it does not. As long as you follow these steps in the video you will be perfectly fine. I just did this back in June. And I used this video as a guide. Went extremely smooth. Even got me ahead of all the long check in lines because I was the only person in the specialty line.
thank you, takeing a AR-15 and a .45 to Ukraine with me, needed to know the rules on taking them
This only covers domestic travel not international rules. There's plenty of firearms in Ukraine if you need it, just pick it off an orc.
No empty mag allowed in gun?
They like them separated. Every airline might have their own guidance on this though.
Wrong. TSA locks are for regular luggage. Use real locks that only you have the key for with firearms
Read tsa.gov then go ahead and email them along with DOJ for being wrong vs your word then
No TSA locks on the case. Locks that open with a key that only you have.
Let us be glad that we have videos like this that can help correct opinion with real facts. TSA locks are allowed. TSA says so. Law says so. Blogs, Internet opinion, etc do not mean they are law or TSA. www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition
@@permaculturefarmfamily8447 I stand corrected. I went to the TSA website and it says that you can lock the hard case with TSA locks. Not advisable but complies with the law.
@@hernanenutube Yep and by law, they are required to pay you up to $3,800 worth of damages for luggage under their care. Make sure to declare the value as you check in and you'll be fine.
@@permaculturefarmfamily8447 actually everytime you fly with tsa locks you are commiting a felony. Federal law states that the owner of the luggage maybe be the only person able to open the case (holding the key).. i doubt they enforce this, but also tsa agents steal guns more than you'd think
@@travisburt1317 key templates to make your key pre-exists, just because TSA has more master templates vs yours doesn’t make it a felony. And yes carrier has liability. Many issues can happen from point A to B but these are covered.
FYI received a comment "You need to use non-TSA locks" - this isn't true per real law 49 CFR 1540.5 vs random blog.
You can use TSA locks and it's by the far the easiest as multiple accounts of firearm cases being opened, pried by TSA are common. They had to tell the passenger to get off the plane. Ultimately, passengers were not able to fly, and airlines do not reimburse these types of missed flights. For the ultra paranoid, best to carry multiple sets of locks as necessary if you want to feel safe.
The TSA web site further states, "You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks." www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition
49 CFR 1540.111 (c) (2) (iv) -“The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the passenger retains the key or combination.” Using TSA approved locks would be in violation of this law being that you are no longer the soul retainer of the key.
@@douglasrobertson325 The manufacturer has made an individual key for your individual lock. Make sure you're the only one that has it. Just because manufacturers may have master keys, or secret combinations to open certain electronic locks, that doesn't violate the fact that your individual key is in your possession for your individual lock. Not to mention the TSA.gov statement which goes through legal and DOJ review on guidelines outlines TSA locks are acceptable. You are free to make a clarification request with the DOJ to argue your point though, it is within your right as a citizen.
Thank you for addressing this! I've seen so many videos with people commenting that TSA locks are not allowed. I've reread the TSA website a million times wondering where people are getting this from.
@@Amber-kc1gt Yes, it’s a horrific misconception pushed by randoms who are no doubt trying to be helpful. But they are also just plain wrong.