Traveling with Firearms - how to properly pack them in your checked baggage.

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  • Ready to hit the road? Here are some tips tricks and the 'how to' for traveling with firearms.
    Disclaimer: Prior to travel, please check the TSA (Transportation Security Administration) Guidelines and your airline rules and regulations for update rules and regulations.

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  • @hyw079
    @hyw079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No TSA locks on the gun case. On your suitcase, yes.

  • @matthawksworth
    @matthawksworth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you say about a semi-hard case luggage that doesn't have a TSA lock (zip-tie thru zipper-pull holes)? It would be less conspicuous (and cheaper) but there's no lock. Would it invite theft? Thanks

  • @ad1683
    @ad1683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    TSA lock info is incorrect- . " Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock unless TSA personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks. " Do you really want anyone at airport who knows TSA locks master key combination access to firearm without your knowledge? This is how firearms get stolen .

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition
      Please read the TSA rules before you call me out and tell me I am wrong. I do this at least monthly now and I used to take 40 plus trips a year, which means I did it 80 plus times a year. Here is the direct quote from the TSA regulations.
      "You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks."
      There is no master combo for TSA locks, they must use a key that is only supposed to be kept by TSA personnel.
      If you think your padlocks keep someone from stealing your firearm, you should really look into that. Padlocks only keep honest people honest. Plus, they are only as good as the case they are in, the case itself is normally easier and faster to defeat than the lock itself.

    • @user11675
      @user11675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LangdonTactical excellent response

    • @bren.r
      @bren.r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LangdonTactical The TSA's regulations have no merit. Law is law my man.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bren.r I hear what you are saying, but then they have broken the law several times as they have cut locks off my cases many times. How often do you fly with guns?

    • @floridaman7
      @floridaman7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The TSA master keys were leaked years ago.

  • @BlaineNay
    @BlaineNay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I find it unacceptable that TSA procedures vary from airport to airport. Everywhere I go in the US, it's the same TSA -- why can't they all follow the same procedures?

  • @StoicJason
    @StoicJason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    All these years of flying with guns and I’ve never had to go to the Airline’s baggage claim office. It’s always just showed up on the belt with everyone standing around. No idea why I’ve yet to run across it.
    Also, Atlanta has one of the best processes for checking guns that I’ve found. You get to stand there a few feet from the agent as he checks the gun and you get to oversee him lock everything back up before you leave to go through security. That’s solid peace of mind when you’re heading to an important match or a class.

  • @disgruntled9296
    @disgruntled9296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    According to the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) that I printed March 11, 2021 (current as of 5/5/21), under CFR Title 49 Section 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals, (c)(2)(iv), "the container in which it is carried is locked, and only the passenger retains the key or combination". I see no provision for the allowance of TSA - recognized locks.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition

    • @bren.r
      @bren.r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@LangdonTactical The TSA's rules and regulations have no merit. They are not a legislative branch and do not make laws. Law is law and the commenter is correct.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OK, now you can carry explosives and incendiaries in your checked baggage?

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for this. I've also found it helpful to have the serial number of the firearm written down and kept in my wallet, just in case I need to file a theft report. While rare, things do go missing some times.

  • @mattyingling9020
    @mattyingling9020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrible advice on using TSA locks. Never use TSA locks on your gun case

  • @bryanbaker5942
    @bryanbaker5942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can solve all these problems. Drive to where you’re going.

    • @zenadventurer69
      @zenadventurer69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paris?

    • @philipwebb960
      @philipwebb960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zenadventurer69 You're going to travel in Europe with a firearm? Good luck, and don't say you've even heard of me.

    • @Sercer25
      @Sercer25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fly privately

  • @TrueSighted
    @TrueSighted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would not advise TSA locks in Oregon. Oregon law is very specific that you are responsible for the safety of your firearm at all times and liable for any misuse. And has gotten even more severe in it's policies lately. No one should be looking at, messing with, or touching your gun without you there. TSA locks may seem more convenient, but if something happens, it's your head on the chopping block, even more than the agent.
    I do think the carrying other extra locks with you is a valuable tip. Could save a lot of grief. Thanks for the vid, aside from the TSA locks bit, Highly educational. Appreciated.

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate to tell you, but once you give your suitcase over to the Airline, you are no longer in control of it. I have had my locks cut more than once by TSA, and guess what kind of locks they put back on the case? Both your suitcase and hard-sided case are just keeping honest people honest. They do not stop people from getting to your stuff.

    • @TrueSighted
      @TrueSighted 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernestlangdon3075 That was my point. You have deniability if you give a legal transporter a locked case right before you board a flight, especially if its a lock that can not be easily opened, and thats intended to be kept closed; than you do if you take a case that you expect to be opened outside of your presence and hand it over. As far as I am concerned, I will not allow anyone to inspect a case with my firearms in it, outside my presence. And if they do, I have a legal objection and legal protection if something bad happens as a result.
      Oregon laws are not friendly to gun owners lately, and we have enough risk. We have more infringements being proposed right now, that are in direct violation of our constitutions, both Oregons and the nations. We cant afford to be unspecific. Or to let others mess with our firearms when we are not in direct possession. The current gun laws are also a violation of our constitution, regardless of claims to the contrary, and make no sense at all, many are direct violations of the orders of the supreme court. But for the moment, its the way it is. We just have to survive it.
      Its a mess. And theres no representation for the actual citizens and residents here who just want to be left alone. If you don't have a lot of money, or are not some extremist leftist, you have no representation left at all anymore.

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TrueSighted Very good points, I see where you are coming from. That is solid reasoning.

    • @redwall1521
      @redwall1521 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe this is federal law, so by this guy advising that you put TSA locks on both the suitcase (not really a big issue) and the smaller gun case itself (this is the big issue), he is opening up a whole can of worms. This video is NOT good advice.

    • @seasparrow7427
      @seasparrow7427 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrueSighted who's fault is it that we're in this big mess?
      I'm a responsible gun owner who goes by the rules, who thinks the rules aren't strict enough. You cannot tell when a human goes crazy. But you can stop a crazy human from buying a gun.
      I'm all about the 2A, but you need to make people responsible for their selling and buying of guns. Period.

  • @KaBar762
    @KaBar762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It’s been a couple years since I’ve flown with a firearm. In the past you couldn’t use the TSA locks to secure your firearms. When did that change?

    • @josephl2586
      @josephl2586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah I don't think it changed. Not allowed to use TSA locks...

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephl2586 Please go read the TSA regs! See the direct paste from the TSA regs and read the last line.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition
      It is written directly into the TSA regulations.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry, it did not paste.
      www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition

    • @josephl2586
      @josephl2586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LangdonTactical thanks for pointing me to the link. It's seems to be contradictory to say "Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock" but then "You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks."
      Nice that there's the option at least?

  • @bxodyssey
    @bxodyssey ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, are you suggesting to lock your suitcase with a TSA lock and a NON-TSA lock on the gun box?

  • @armedmariner
    @armedmariner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love flying Southwest with a firearm. I've done everything exactly as Mr. Langdon describes and I've never had an issue with them. At the destination end it just comes right out on the belt and I grab and go. I've had good luck with Delta too. United people seem "prickly" about it. Haven't tried American. I got called back once to unlock...so Ernest's thoughts about a TSA lock are good...I just don't know where to get them. At that time the TSA person just wanted me to open it in their presence to verify I followed the rules. Which I did. Typically if I'm carrying a semi-auto I just strip the thing into frame, slide, barrel, rod and spring. Easy to do and easy to put back together. If a TSA person sees that they know I'm trying to help them do their job. Why not? I did not know that you could carry multiple loaded mags in a pouch like that. Good tip Ernest. I always carry my handgun in a hard case inside my checked suitcase as described. The worst thing that ever happened to me was I was about to enter the TSA security line and I did a self-pat-down and realized "oh SNAP I have my Seecamp in my pocket!" Haha. I had to go back out to my truck and ditch it. But I'm always early at the airport anyway so no biggie. I have a boss who had same thing happen to him with his own Seecamp. Those little buggers are small. Last point. I have nightmares thinking about flying through a mid point airport on the way to my destination and then having the destination flight cancel. Then I gotta worry about my gun. Especially if I'm in a city like Chicago! So, I choose to fly Direct Flights whenever I can and I look around for friendly Red State airports as my midpoints...makes sense to me.

  • @randlecarr3257
    @randlecarr3257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video really helped me. Watched it two weeks ago, bought my TSA locks on Amazon in time to travel. Guns are here in my hotel now! Thanks this was helpful

  • @zenadventurer69
    @zenadventurer69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I believe you need to lock your gun in a case/suitcase for which you are the only one with keys/combination. I don’t think you can use the TSA locks…my understanding is no one but you should be able to get into your suitcase/gun case.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please read the TSA regulations. I would hope that you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt and go read them before calling me out. Here is the direct quote from the TSA regs. Please see the very last line, "Including TSA-recognized locks"

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition

    • @zenadventurer69
      @zenadventurer69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LangdonTactical Thanks for the clarification…this is for sure a change as this was a specific subject in a training we were in…also seconded by my nephew who is a supervisor for TSA. To your point, the agents themselves aren’t totally in alignment.

    • @97mustangcobra
      @97mustangcobra 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Keep seeing these comments and Ernie's response. This is directly from his link:
      "Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock unless TSA personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks."
      So TSA lock is NOT required. If they want it opened, they are to call you to open it. If you have TSA lock, they can open it without you, but they are not supposed to. You should be present if it is to be opened. If they cut your lock to open, I would immediately report it at airport and then examine gun in their presence. If you have TSA lock, you may not know if it was opened and therefore you are less likely to open and examine it for damage.

  • @bubblegump5410
    @bubblegump5410 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    they told me NOT to use tsa locks

  • @halfheart3360
    @halfheart3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you store your firearm in a TSA locked, hard pistol case inside a locked soft piece of checked in luggage are you still within compliance?

  • @snowgorilla9789
    @snowgorilla9789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for an up to date version of what to expect

  • @Whitpusmc
    @Whitpusmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My experience has been that very often airline employees don’t know the procedures and rules of their airline. I usually print out the rules from the airline website so I can show the employees. They often try to take the keys from you which is kinda funny because, ah, how do I unlock it when I get to where I’m going?

    • @Phlfwlr
      @Phlfwlr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s good advise

    • @Whitpusmc
      @Whitpusmc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Phlfwlr I learned this the hard way having to argue with staff with firm yet ridiculous convictions over what should be done with firearms in checked baggage.

  • @dr.omar.insights2000
    @dr.omar.insights2000 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any special advice for California Airports? Like asking for gun registration...etc?

  • @jimwoods8957
    @jimwoods8957 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Possibly out dated but wrong about a number of things! Not going to get you in trouble but overkill! Check with TSA and the airlines.

  • @davidbuurma9309
    @davidbuurma9309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My understanding is that you should NOT use the TSA locks. It is against the law for TSA to open you gun case without you being present.

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you hand your suitcase over to the Airline, they can do whatever they think is necessary for the safety of the flight. If they cannot find you, they will cut your locks off of the bag to inspect it. It has happened to me more than once. I hear what people are saying about not using TSA locks and that you are supposed to maintain control of the key or combo, but I am also here to tell you all that does not matter. It is a padlock at best. They have a universal key called a bolt cutter. Once you hand the suitcase off to the airline, you no longer have control of who has access to your bag or what it inside it. Locks only keep honest people honest. They do not stop people from stealing or keep TSA out of your bags.

    • @mrdubachery
      @mrdubachery 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ernestlangdon3075if they choose to cut my locks, that's their choice. But I'm going to do my part and ensure that someone would HAVE to cut my locks to take my firearm. Same reason we put locks on anything.

  • @RayDoyouagree
    @RayDoyouagree 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never heard that you need a lock on a hard sided suitcase that contains the locked case containing the gun

  • @mrdubachery
    @mrdubachery 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TSA locks on your gun case is BAD advice. Only you sbould be able to unlock your gun case and they should ask you to do that when you declare it, and only call you back if there are issues down the line at x-ray.

  • @amiedavis5257
    @amiedavis5257 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the ammo need to go in a separate bag all together? Southwest allows two checked bags. I was planning on putting the ammo in one lock box and my gun on another checked bag. Is this what i need to do?

  • @youngmanaful
    @youngmanaful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do magazines need to be empty?

  • @martyedmondson8548
    @martyedmondson8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great info. I travel quite a bit with a pistol. I pack the pistol, sans magazine, field stripped in a hard case lock box. That way, no questions asked, everyone who can see it knows its unloaded. Magazines and factory boxed ammo in a separate hard case lock box.

    • @EEE-fn5pr
      @EEE-fn5pr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you because none of these videos (including this one) tells you where to actually put the ammo.

    • @skubasteveskilla3316
      @skubasteveskilla3316 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEE-fn5pr Have you flown yet? Do I need to get a seperate suitcase for the lock box?

  • @BlaccBoii
    @BlaccBoii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why tf are the tsa padlocks that are used to lock away guns built weak ??? 🤔

  • @RazorTube55
    @RazorTube55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From United Airlines website - "The locked hard-sided container holding the handgun may be placed inside an unlocked soft-side piece of luggage"

  • @hakurei06
    @hakurei06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You must maintain exclusive control of the lock hard sided case containing the firearm. it CANNOT be secured with a TSA lock. if your hardsided case is inside of a suitcase, the suitcase can be secured with a TSA lock. If your only hardsided case *is* the suitcase, the suitcase must be secured with a lock with which only you have the key, and the TSA is not permitted to cut the locks. if they wish to inspect the contents of your luggage containing firearms, they must contact you and open the case in your presence. (in practice, the TSA will do whatever the fuck they want, but this *is* illegal).

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are correct. But they do have a key. It's called bolt cutters, and I can tell you from experience that they are not afraid to use them. I have had my locks cut several times by the TSA. They do not "have" to contact you. Once you turn your bag over to the airline, you are authorizing them to inspect that bag as they see fit. I hear what you are saying, and you are not wrong. I am just telling people what I have found to be the most consistent and trouble-free way to travel after 30-plus years and thousands of fights.

  • @teller1290
    @teller1290 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You say twice that the "agent at the gate" will be happy (if the pistol is in ANOTHER hard- sided case). Just to get terms right, I always assumed by "the gate" you meant beyond the ticket counter. I thought all firearms had to go in checked baggage, which I assume was near the ticket counter. (Pardon me, I haven't flown since '09 but have a flight coming up on 12/8).

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are correct, and we can see how that would be unclear. Ernest is speaking about the Agent at the Ticket Counter where you check in your baggage.

  • @arthurdevera9373
    @arthurdevera9373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where to buy TSA padlocks?

  • @PG-BuySellTrade
    @PG-BuySellTrade ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question, if I have a locked, hard sided case INSIDE of my locked run of the mill suitcase is this ok? Or should I have a hard walled suitcase as well as hard sided locked case for my gun?

    • @No_Diddy_TV
      @No_Diddy_TV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I need to know

    • @PG-BuySellTrade
      @PG-BuySellTrade ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@No_Diddy_TV I flew from PDX to Phoenix sky Harbor Airport, using a hard sided lockable case inside of a normal suitcase. Best to have TSA locks on the suitcase and your own padlock on the gun case. Hope this helps!

    • @No_Diddy_TV
      @No_Diddy_TV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PG-BuySellTrade thank you bro I’m bout to fly from PDX to MCO (Orlando Florida) will 2 normal locks work (1 on hard gun case and 1 on normal suitcase?

    • @PG-BuySellTrade
      @PG-BuySellTrade ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@No_Diddy_TV that may work but the problem is this, IF tsa wants to inspect your gun case itself while you’re already at your gate (they can do this to ensure the case is up to standards) and they can’t get into your actual suitcase, they will call you all the way from your gate to go open it for them which can be a big risk if you’re about to board. Safe bet is to buy some cheap tsa locks from local Fred Meyer or something and just use those on the suitcase itself so that tsa can look at the gun case if need be. They should NEVER need to open your gun case without you present, after you already show them it’s unloaded and properly secured in the lock box when checking the bag to begin with.

    • @No_Diddy_TV
      @No_Diddy_TV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PG-BuySellTrade perfect thank you bro not only is this my first time flying I’m going to be bringing my gun so you’re really helping me out , another question, when I walk in what do I need to do first ? I heard I need to go to the machine and get my tickets first then go to wherever Delta is at and declare my firearm is that correct ?

  • @hunkim4327
    @hunkim4327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gun case doesn’t need to have a lock? Only have a TSA lock on the outer case? Conflicting info from other sources. Also you said “take chance with the loaded mags” isn’t assuring.

    • @bren.r
      @bren.r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah don't listen to this guy, listen to the law. TSA locks are unlawful. Remember, the TSA isn't a legislative branch of government, thus does not create laws. When you're in a court room, the judge is going to care what the law says, not TSA's silly law-breaking rules.

  • @robertjohnson3855
    @robertjohnson3855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u pack an unloaded firearm in checked bags coming from Czech republic to Salt Lake City, Utah? Just a “yes” or “No” please?

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say NO. That is international travel and the US customs agents will have a fit, even it the Czech Republic will let you fly with it.

  • @tick123tock
    @tick123tock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Regarding the ammunition, they are allowed to be transported in the plastic ammo boxes such as the Dillon 100 round boxes. You don't have to come up with factory ammo boxes just to transport them. Either way, it's good practice to tape closed the lids of the boxes as they have a funny way of opening during flight.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is true, and both good suggestions. Also, I would not recommend flying with bulk pack ammo, even though it is "original factory packaging."

    • @chadlloyd1807
      @chadlloyd1807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LangdonTactical Does the ammo need to be separate from the gun? As in not in the same case?

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chadlloyd1807 It can be in the same case.

  • @garrett4971
    @garrett4971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have talked to both TSA and Allegiant Airlines and both have told me that plastic containers like those from Plano and MTM (see their 50 round and 100 round boxes) would work fine.

    • @aimeelangdon5402
      @aimeelangdon5402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent! Yes, some airlines do accept those!

    • @garrett4971
      @garrett4971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aimeelangdon5402 all of them should tbh

  • @jamesjeff4952
    @jamesjeff4952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do I need a gun liscence for this? Or just as long is concealed the right way like this video?

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, there is no license for traveling with firearms in the US. You have to follow TSA and the airline rules.
      That said, you must still comply with local regulations in the state and city you are flying to.

  • @garrettwelborn3037
    @garrettwelborn3037 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throw an apple air tag in there too.

  • @raychelfitzgerald5308
    @raychelfitzgerald5308 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the only video I've seen that said TSA locks, every thing I've read said do NOT use them

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most say not to use them, and by the letter of the law, they are correct. But I have also had my locks cut off several times by the TSA to inspect my bags. They replace them with TSA locks every time. They, TSA, already have the key to your locks. It's called a bolt cutter, and they are not afraid to use it.

    • @raychelfitzgerald5308
      @raychelfitzgerald5308 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LangdonTactical ugh this is so stressful, I'm flying into Sacramento and driving with my mom to Wahpeton ND, and then flying back to Texas from there. I have a conceal carry license and US Lawshield (I keep my CCL current because it's easier to buy a gun)

  • @jessemartinez8920
    @jessemartinez8920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for putting this video together for us Mr. Langdon

  • @Bklynpimpstress
    @Bklynpimpstress 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tsa locks are not good to put on gun cases to many people will have access to opening your case with the universal tsa key..

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're not wrong, but at that point, someone has your gun box and they already have access. Most padlocks are easily deferrable as are most hard side pistol cases. They only keep honest people honest. If they have access and intent, it will not matter what locks you have on the case.

    • @Bklynpimpstress
      @Bklynpimpstress 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LangdonTactical your absolutely right about that

  • @vmanshooting
    @vmanshooting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video. I feel a lot better hearing this material from a reputable trainer

    • @redwall1521
      @redwall1521 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's misinformation in this video.
      It's against federal regulations for TSA to be able to access your firearm without you present. This guy talks about putting the TSA approved locks that TSA agents have the master key to, this would violate those federal regulations and put you in a lot of trouble. This video is bad advice.

  • @marcoglara2012
    @marcoglara2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding breakdown

  • @jimmymcgill5572
    @jimmymcgill5572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the box of 50 rounds need to be in the same case as your gun, or can it be just in your suitcase? You didn’t clarify

  • @jasonmartinez7582
    @jasonmartinez7582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question. I travel with a large pelican case for my personal checked luggage. Can i keep my 2 firearms in the 2 glock cases. And boxes of ammo in original boxes . And then store those glock cases and ammo in my pelican case with locks on it.

  • @learnwithjahsun
    @learnwithjahsun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know if you can travel from mainland USA to Puerto Rico (US Territory)? I'm having a hard time finding updated information. Thanks!

  • @sheraznasirkhanbhatti5707
    @sheraznasirkhanbhatti5707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful lessons

  • @Do4SelfRecords
    @Do4SelfRecords ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the knowledge. I will be traveling with my 🔫

  • @lescocat1501
    @lescocat1501 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luggage containing firearms, do not go on the main carrousel.

  • @thegrimreaper819
    @thegrimreaper819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about revolvers and especially the original ammo box which is Not flat? They are Big!

  • @MDpolo
    @MDpolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful information. Thank you for sharing.

  • @randomperson-bk7sk
    @randomperson-bk7sk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I’m related to this guy. Probably by extended family

  • @Eseell
    @Eseell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a note on ammunition weight limits, 11lbs is a common limit but not actually a statutory requirement. For example, Alaska Airlines allows up to 50lbs of ammo on continental US flights.

  • @LYLEWOLD
    @LYLEWOLD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, I too was going to ask about using TSA locks but in reading comments you already covered that. Thanks for the update.

  • @KW-vp9sy
    @KW-vp9sy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was the best video have seen on this topic, well done

  • @WhoamI20233
    @WhoamI20233 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I’ve got a large vault gun case made by pelican. I wouldn’t be fine putting my rifle and several pistols in the same case ?

  • @1982sketcher
    @1982sketcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ernie, you might want to addendum that rules on the book don't apply when flying to NY or CA

  • @adc968
    @adc968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you say he talks with his hands? I have a sneaking suspicion . . .

  • @francisgarner1751
    @francisgarner1751 ปีที่แล้ว

    How often do worker still weapons!!

  • @Marcus_Woodard
    @Marcus_Woodard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video needs an update. It’s bad advice to tell people to use TSA compliant locks on their firearms. And it’s been pointed out several times in the comments.

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not sure why people are so interested in making this an issue. Do what you want, but I am telling you from experience, if they cannot get into your bag, they will just cut the locks. Are they supposed to wait for you, call you, etc? Yes, but it does not always go as planned. You can use non-TSA locks if you like, I never said that you had to use them. I have literally done this thousands of times over the last thirty-plus years, and I have had much fewer issues once I switched to TSA locks. Once that bag leaves your control, just because you have the keys, does not mean it will keep bad players out of your bag. Don't kid yourself into thinking your pelican case or other hard-sided luggage will keep people out. Not to mention that I can break open most "hard-sided" pistol cases with only my hands. You do what you want, but bottom line, the gun is out of your control once you hand it over to be checked in with the airline, regardless of what kind of locks you put on the case.

  • @TheRPM87
    @TheRPM87 ปีที่แล้ว

    He lost me at can’t take it on the plane

  • @mr-qm7on
    @mr-qm7on ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a Glock case okay to use for tsa

  • @gmro-ronosinski5102
    @gmro-ronosinski5102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Ernest for the tips and guidelines. 💯👍🏼

  • @Phlfwlr
    @Phlfwlr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the ammo and the gun be in the same suitcase, but separately as in not in the guns hard case, but just sitting in the suitcase the hard case is in?

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, they can be in the same suitcase, the ammo needs to be in "original manufactures packaging" or in the magazine in a magazine case or pouch that protects the ammo and magazine. Bottom line, they don't want a box of loose ammo rolling around in your suitcase. No zip lock bags or the like.

  • @keywellcoinsmafiametals8726
    @keywellcoinsmafiametals8726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I have to store the box of ammo inside the locked case with the firearm? Or can I have it in a bag sitting separately with my socks and underwear.

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ammo can be in a different bag with other stuff.

  • @justjess5518
    @justjess5518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I put my firearm in a hard case that is locked, then place the entire case in my luggage?

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe you can according to TSA rules. I would recommend that even your soft case has a lock. Remember, all of this is just to keep honest people honest, it will not stop someone with any serious intent. If I can get the smaller locked hard-sided case out of your luggage easily, I can take all the time I need to get into it later.

  • @Amber-kc1gt
    @Amber-kc1gt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm having trouble finding a straight answer on this. Can you have your unloaded pistol and a loaded magazine in the same locked hard sided case? Or do both the pistol and magazine have to be unloaded with ammo packaged separately? This is what I found on the TSA website and I'm having trouble understanding the implications:
    "Firearm magazines and ammunition clips, whether loaded or empty, must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm"
    www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition
    To me that sounds like I'm able to have a loaded magazine in the case transporting the ammunition, just as long as it's not in the firearm. Help please!

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, they can be in the same suitcase, but they must be separate from the firearm. Also, the airline gets a say here. If the magazines are loaded, they need to be in individual pouches that secure the end of the magazine and keep the rounds from popping out. They cannot just be loose in your bag or case. The best bet to keep everyone happy is to have the ammo in an ammo box that keeps the rounds secure and separate, i.e. the factory 50-round boxes.

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've flown in and out of Detroit,DC, Portland,Sea/Tac,Atlanta,LAX,Boston Logan, Tampa,Phoenix and a few others over the last 15 years with my gun and never used a TSA lock. I have never had a single issue or delay and have always accompanied my checked baggage to the TSA checkpoint. I also have a clear shipping pouch stuck to my guncase with my cell and flight info,airline and TSA regulations so I can be contacted or refer to the actual letter of the law. I have never needed it or been contacted.

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are correct, and most of the time that is the case. But in some airports, the TSA checkpoint where they inspect bags is in a secure area and you are not allowed to go there. They have to come to get your keys from you to inspect the bag. I have been doing this for almost 30 years now, my first trip checking guns was in 1992 when I was still on active duty and was sent to a civilian shooting school. It has actually gotten easier since 9/11 as the rules are more clear-cut now. You do not half to use TSA locks, but it can make your life much easier. If I am using a pelican case, I do not use them as they are not durable enough in most cases. But if I am using a hard-sided suitcase, I use the built-in TSA lock on the bag and quality TSA locks on the box inside. I have had my locks cut off of my bag more than once. I also have my contact info on my bag as well, but that would require them to look for it. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. These are just suggestions based on my experience, YMMW, you do you.

  • @joefw2446
    @joefw2446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic... Thanks!

  • @spencerjohnson1499
    @spencerjohnson1499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool video. I have not traveled on a plane in over 15 years. ill drive to the state i wish to visit. 😊

  • @michaelfay794
    @michaelfay794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u Sir.

  • @joejeans7913
    @joejeans7913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    newby question here when going to another state that doesn't recognize your CCW permit how do we carry to the firearms class? or do we dont do classes in that state. 15 round mags in CA? is it now legal?

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check the laws for the state in which you are traveling to.

    • @keitherickson3227
      @keitherickson3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in CA unfortunately. Firearms must be unloaded in a locked case while transporting. Magazines and ammo must be in a separate locked container and stored in a separate part of a vehicle than where the firearm is. Neither can be placed in an area where you can easily access it from where you are in the vehicle. Now say you stop somewhere with the firearms in the vehicle. The firearm must be locked in a case that is mounted to the vehicle. CA is 10 round magazines only.

  • @hughstinnette1771
    @hughstinnette1771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info; thanx.

  • @teddysurf
    @teddysurf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK I’m getting conflicting information on locks from different videos… Some video say the TSA actually prefers you to have non-TSA locks so the TSA agents can’t get to your firearms…?

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So TSA does not trust their people? At best it is a padlock and just keeps honest people honest. I have on several occasions been told by a TSA agent that it would be easier if I used TSA locks so they would not have to track me down to get my keys. I have also had my locks cut off even though I declared the firearm in the bag.

    • @teddysurf
      @teddysurf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernestlangdon3075 Someone told me to go early and don’t go through security until they’ve cleared the luggage containing the firearm? Anyway thank you for responding any and all information helps.

    • @philh1826
      @philh1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernestlangdon3075 I've been told not to lock the suitcase transporting the firearm, only the actual Hardcase carrying the firearm within an unlocked suitcase

  • @rfjohns1
    @rfjohns1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the suitcase need to be hard sided when putting your hard sided firearm case is placed in side it or is a soft sided suitcase ok?

    • @ernestlangdon3075
      @ernestlangdon3075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use a hard-sided pistol case in a soft side suitcase. Just make sure the suitcase is locked somehow as well as the pistol case.

    • @philh1826
      @philh1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernestlangdon3075 I do not see any provision to lock the suitcase and have never done so. I have the hard-sided, locked case that carries my firearm within a soft, unlocked suitcase.

  • @bamahi7142
    @bamahi7142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if your Pelican case has four loops to lock the case, do you need four TSA locks?

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First, you do not have to use TSA locks, you can use standard padlocks. Yes, all the locking holes have to have a locks in them. For a pelican case, you may want to stick with standard padlocks as they get beat up really badly and the TSA locks are more fragile in most cases.

    • @bamahi7142
      @bamahi7142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LangdonTactical Thanks!

  • @pizza7975
    @pizza7975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    solid info Ernest. I never lock my suitcase, only the gun case inside of it. I believe a thief would target a lock suitcase. Inconspicuous! i would also use a cable lock and secure the case to my gun belt or the suitcase. Also use the cable lock to secure case at hotel.

    • @redwall1521
      @redwall1521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DO NOT USE A TSA APPROVED LOCK FOR THAT GUN CASE. This is one of the parts of the video that this guy got wrong. It's against federal regulations to allow someone other than you to access it.

    • @teller1290
      @teller1290 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@redwall1521even the TSA agent!?!?

  • @blackshadow7429
    @blackshadow7429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation so far!

  • @toddfeltman3748
    @toddfeltman3748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shopping for TSA locks, Fosmon, an approved manufacturer, brags about the locks being made of "tough" Zinc alloy. Ummm.... Zinc is heavy, but a relatively soft metal that easily breaks apart. Not sure I'd be bragging about that *feature* LoL!

  • @philipwebb960
    @philipwebb960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the check-in area: "There's a pistol in my suitcase. Please have someone steal it."

    • @LangdonTactical
      @LangdonTactical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have literally done this close to a thousand times, my guns have never been stolen.

  • @novawave333
    @novawave333 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would never use TSA locks, ever.

  • @Punketeria1369
    @Punketeria1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great tips. I didn't know about TSA Locks.
    chEErs