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  • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
    @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @fosterdawson7339
      @fosterdawson7339 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ryan, at 3:10 what is the Sprite and Banana challenge??

    • @kylehill
      @kylehill ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have it and it's fantastic. Recommend.

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fosterdawson7339 use your imagination!

  • @mikegiannakopoulos6819
    @mikegiannakopoulos6819 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    At 9:08 Nick doesn't need to pay 5 for Yuriko. Commander tax is applied for each time you have CAST your commander from the command zone, not for each time it has died. As Nick used her Ninjutsu ability to get her onto the battlefield her "Hardcast" cost remains 3.

    • @hydracollector3588
      @hydracollector3588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i come to say that

    • @ETdotG
      @ETdotG ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oops I should have read comments before posting lol

    • @Kishimyu
      @Kishimyu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I play Yuriko and did not know that. Good to know.

    • @Theronxz
      @Theronxz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I did not know that and assumed it was each time she reentered the command zone. Thanks for letting me know as I will definitely use that in the future.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Theronxz No, it's only for casting it from there. Here's the rule:
      903.8. A player may cast a commander they own from the command zone. A commander cast from the command zone costs an additional {2} for each previous time the player casting it has cast it from the command zone that game. This additional cost is informally known as the “commander tax.”

  • @taylorchamplin379
    @taylorchamplin379 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Pretty sure he missed the line where student enters as omnath to draw his entire deck. Was a punt

    • @thevp_ssb.
      @thevp_ssb. ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Even if he was afraid of Conc Sphinx, there's a line where instead it comes in as Tasigur, mill the deck, and then come in as Thassa's for the win.

    • @connorl0204
      @connorl0204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Con sphinx isnt a may and that combo runs at instant speed. He couldve forced ashani to draw out before he decked himself then kept going.

    • @iambensummers
      @iambensummers ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@connorl0204 Con sphinx is a may. It makes sense that they would word it this way because otherwise, two Sphinxes on the battlefield would kill both players.

    • @connorl0204
      @connorl0204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iambensummers to be fair, that would probably be a good thing. Youd have to be pretty silly to do that on purpose anyway, but theres so many ways to efficiently kill a sphinx so you could just draw your deck and kill one

    • @Dracomandriuthus
      @Dracomandriuthus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thevp_ssb. if he was afraid of cons sphinx he just puts the omnath draw trigger on the stack, then puts student in as a sphinx

  • @quinnmarshall8794
    @quinnmarshall8794 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I might not be up to date on my rules here but I don’t think the game should be over?
    With seedborn muse on the battlefield, Shawn untaps and has mana to spend during Ashani’s upkeep, meaning he can activate Tasigur, making a deal in order to return noxious revival to save both himself and whomever he made the deal with.
    I know this assumes two things; one that anybody would be willing to risk the deal (given that Shawn can choose to save only himself), and two that noxious revival has not been exiled, but I find both of these assumptions at least moderately likely.
    Regardless this was a great game, thanks for the content!

  • @r3dmanMIC
    @r3dmanMIC ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Couldn't Nick just draw his entire deck copying Omnath? Sure, Ashani will have his in hand too, but Nick would have infinite mana and Ashani wouldn't, or he could Ninjutsu the student into Sphinx in response to the Omnath trigger to force Ashani to not draw. Or he could student into Thoracle with an empty deck and win that way. Still, fun game!

    • @thevp_ssb.
      @thevp_ssb. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun alternate line, use Tasigur to mill the library, then Thoracle to win. Lol.

    • @Theronxz
      @Theronxz ปีที่แล้ว +9

      To put it simply as I addressed this in the top comment. I was only allowed to connect with Yuriko cause I said I was going to make a meme play and not go for a win. So, I honored that agreement and did not commit to winning the game even though I could have. I did not think about the Tasigur mill line though as VP suggested. That I am going to keep in mind if it ever comes up again.

    • @thevp_ssb.
      @thevp_ssb. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theronxz Sounds good! Good ole agreements.

  • @ETdotG
    @ETdotG ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:07 I think that yuriko cost only 3 to cast since the 1st time it was an activated ability, so tax did not increase on any cast before.

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I would never think Draco be cast on this stream

  • @thevp_ssb.
    @thevp_ssb. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even with the Conc Sphinx in play to maybe stop possibly looping with Omnath for student, he could've instead come in as a Tasigur, use Tasigur effect to mill the entire library, and then come in as Thoracle at the end. Lol.

    • @thevp_ssb.
      @thevp_ssb. ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Win without ever leaving combat. Lol.

  • @mattgerrey1929
    @mattgerrey1929 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love seeing Tasigur, LOVE seeing Nezahal even more

  • @waynereed836
    @waynereed836 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to know why Shawn went for DC even though he knew that Noah had a counter ready for it? I do not think it was a misplay, I think he did it on purpose, I would just like to know his reasoning. You guys teach a lot about interaction and timings, one of the reasons I love your videos.

  • @Bcdeano
    @Bcdeano ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the reasons I like to run Life from The Loam in my Tasigur build. A little built in protection from that particular line of play. Just keep dredging...The Nezahal would have been tough though. Possibly getting forced to draw after loam in is in the hand

  • @koanos2448
    @koanos2448 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:15 Why did Ashani declare no blocks? Was there a deal being made? Was Yuriko unblockable?

    • @Theronxz
      @Theronxz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He agreed not to block cause I was going to make a meme play and not win the game. Which is why I was allowed to connect and why I didn't win the game off that infinite mana. Otherwise, I was just going to pass the turn and still lose on one of their turns.

    • @koanos2448
      @koanos2448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Theronxz Ah, now I understand. It wasn't mentioned in the narration so I was a bit confused, especially when you run high CMC cards that would have killed the table.

  • @horacecampbell8483
    @horacecampbell8483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:51 the birds was supposed to die from the -1/-1 but never did. Or did I missed something?

    • @Mad_Goblin_Engineer
      @Mad_Goblin_Engineer ปีที่แล้ว

      There was 2 birds. It was Ashanti’s bird that died

  • @kyleprentice4023
    @kyleprentice4023 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why didn’t Ashani cast windfall turn 1?

  • @koanos2448
    @koanos2448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just realized Noah's picture is a Green Jellybean! 🤣

  • @GodammitNappa
    @GodammitNappa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that noah's picture is a bean

  • @manuelito1233
    @manuelito1233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LMAO omnath's thumbnail is a jelly bean

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's never a good sign for the Yuriko player when "hardcast" and "Yuriko" are in the same sentence...

    • @connorl0204
      @connorl0204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair, its never a good sign when the yuriko player says hard cast to anything at all

    • @kingofrunescapepking
      @kingofrunescapepking ปีที่แล้ว

      Thing is, he had the win and punted it, once he made infinite treasures he could have had Student enter as a Tasigur to mill himself, then return it to his hand and ninjitsu it back in as a Thoracle

  • @Spulverin15
    @Spulverin15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would have gone for t1 wheel for sure!

  • @jaydenwatson5147
    @jaydenwatson5147 ปีที่แล้ว

    @13:47 How come the Abrupt Decay "countered" the Gilded Drake? Surely the Gilded Drake needs to enter the battlefield first, and then Ashani would have to play it in response to a different game action from Shawn?

  • @YetAnotherScrub
    @YetAnotherScrub ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that was a fantastic game. Somewhat like the commander games I might play, with a higher power level but the same chaotic slug-fest feel.

  • @FYLKINGJOKER
    @FYLKINGJOKER ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dammit nick! 👌👌

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was some battle! Nice game.

  • @Kazz1187
    @Kazz1187 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let’s go nezahal

  • @BigDirtyWon
    @BigDirtyWon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow thst was a fun one!

  • @Magnivore519
    @Magnivore519 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder if the Easter egg will go unbean.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like Ashani's printing of Deflecting Swat. Where did he buy it?

  • @orinmatthew
    @orinmatthew ปีที่แล้ว

    Honest question, at 5:09 the paco/Haldan player used a land from exile. I thought you couldn't do that. He only says, "you may play noncreature spells". Just curious.

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His wording was confusing on original printing, so they errata’d him to be more clear. It now says this:
      “You may play lands and cast noncreature spells from among cards you exiled that have fetch counters on them, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells.”

    • @orinmatthew
      @orinmatthew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PlayingWithPowerMTG oooooooo I had no idea. Haven't been able to play and didn't know that was a thing

  • @kingofrunescapepking
    @kingofrunescapepking ปีที่แล้ว +6

    About half my play group has these backpacks, they're incredible

  • @jessestanley4520
    @jessestanley4520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did the guilded drake ability fizzle if it still entered the battlefield? Doesn't abrupt decay destroy it and not counter it?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because both have to be on the battlefield when the ability resolves. It’s how the card has been errata’d.

  • @enzofortunato455
    @enzofortunato455 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait a sec, shawn cast thoracle, then activate talisman (maybe for evolution…y not for a counter?) and then consultation.
    He didn’t fight opponent fow but he protected nezahal?

  • @laicuan1
    @laicuan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    @7:27 can't cast force of will that way... card clearly says "from hand"

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The alternate cost says "exile from your hand". Not "cast from your hand". That's the cost, not the casting restriction. For example, you cannot escape Force of Will via Underworld Breach because Force of Will gained the escape of "3UU, exile 3 cards from your graveyard".

  • @jensenchase7774
    @jensenchase7774 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Sevinne’s reclamation only copy when cast from the gy once it has resolved?

    • @thehivemindshow
      @thehivemindshow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it creates the copy on resolution

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Big Blue Dino

  • @SrDonJugo
    @SrDonJugo ปีที่แล้ว

    Ashanti can't cast FoW from exile for it's alternative cost... That can only be done from hand 7:40

    • @jorahthecat4518
      @jorahthecat4518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Force only requires you to discard a blue card from your hand, it doesn't say anything about where it can be cast from

  • @Tbonesteakayaya
    @Tbonesteakayaya ปีที่แล้ว

    At 9:55 Shawn could not have activated Wishclaw Talisman as it can only be activated at sorcery speed.

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It can be activated at instant speed, but only during your turn.

  • @089Memo90
    @089Memo90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tuuuuesday yay :)

  • @thegamev
    @thegamev ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Couldn't nick win with the Sakashima's Student loop?
    After making a million treasures he can start copying omnath and draw his deck

    • @drdavidchacon
      @drdavidchacon ปีที่แล้ว

      Ashani would have his entire library in hand as well, but nick would still have infinite mana so yeah I'm pretty sure he would win.

    • @thevp_ssb.
      @thevp_ssb. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@drdavidchacon you can actually avoid Conc Sphinx for the win by instead milling the library with Tasigur, then Thassa's Oracle on field for the win.

    • @tiltedsaltmine2262
      @tiltedsaltmine2262 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thevp_ssb. Tasigur isnt on the field when he makes infinite mana, though you can respond to the first conc sphinx trigger with another ninjitsu of student becoming conc sphinx, either you both draw your deck with conc sphinx, or you just continue the omnath draws, then the last student becomes the thassa thats on the field and doesnt need to be cast, avoiding counter spells, and have your entire deck in hand to counter the stifle effect, if someone runs it.

  • @thisandablunt
    @thisandablunt ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain how abrupt decay on gilded drake causes the etb effect to fizzle?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you read the errata, it says drake has to be present to make the exchange.

  • @Vagrantlol
    @Vagrantlol ปีที่แล้ว

    if you have infinite mana and no cards why would you copy Draco instead of Sphinx?

  • @ecclesiaandune687
    @ecclesiaandune687 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i feel like this is a bit of an unpopular opinion but i love seeing yuriko!

  • @tobynburke4959
    @tobynburke4959 ปีที่แล้ว

    could the tasigur player not talk one of them into giving him endurance 2x so he could save them and himself? He had a seedbornemuse

  • @dasfabelwesen
    @dasfabelwesen ปีที่แล้ว

    Strange game, technically you should wheel the opponents after milling their lib to win the game by leaving enough cards in the lib. Much safer.

  • @Odaff33br
    @Odaff33br ปีที่แล้ว

    The birds of noah was killed but it stay on battlefield

  • @yoshiman9521
    @yoshiman9521 ปีที่แล้ว

    i feel like if i was at the table and omnath tried to put that intuition pile in front of me i would tell him to get something else for the other 2 cards or you dont get FoW and we both lose on the spot

  • @torlarpnimsrisukkul556
    @torlarpnimsrisukkul556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ashani should've used Mindbreak Trap for Breach.

    • @marcellusjordan5681
      @marcellusjordan5681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He probably didn't draw into it until Noah casted Swords targeting Nezahal and drew two cards from the Nezahal trigger

  • @seankeane769
    @seankeane769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn’t gilded drakes effect still go off when it etb’s even though it’s destroyed?

    • @HeyApples
      @HeyApples ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @dave7592
      @dave7592 ปีที่แล้ว

      No because Gilded Drake has to be "exchanged"

  • @assael2
    @assael2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Birds of paradise shouldn't have been killed by that copy bridge prowler?

  • @taylorchamplin379
    @taylorchamplin379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or even thassa to scry his whole deck and get a win con to draw with yuriko

  • @ohyeahiexist1372
    @ohyeahiexist1372 ปีที่แล้ว

    when announcing the players' hands, you are saying "london mulligan" right? also I just noticed that the players are on webcams and not in the same room LOL

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    again, I must insist cEDH players start playing Eldrazi titans in all their decks to stop dying to brainfreeze

    • @jinshootingstar
      @jinshootingstar ปีที่แล้ว

      You will still die to Breach on one way or another, no reason to run a dead card for that.

  • @entertainmentinc9735
    @entertainmentinc9735 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ashani threw the game but not doing a turn 1 wheel.