I think you forgot something what happened to the previous Mrs. Claus when this guy took over? Did she spontaneously combust? Dust away like Spiderman? Was she brutally murdered saw style when her husband/Santa before died?!?
@@undertaletimetravler3635 Go off the logic of the 3rd movie if a Santa is caught or wishes to never be Saint Nick at all the Mr. And Mrs. Claus are put back in their old lives before they became the magical beings
I've always been befuddled, when the closed caption subtitles meant for the deaf, will put up the closet appropriate word, if a glass drops a d breaks, you're made aware of it with ..." breaking glass " If you have zero frame of reference, you have no idea what that sound would be
yeah, what about that? did she bite the big one when the old santa did? did she get evicted when the elves found out? did she get turned into an elf? was she already and elf and she got demoted to worker? is she just kind of hanging out somewhere mourning her dead husband while his murderer wears his old clothes and talks down to his old minions?
A: What happened to the old Mrs. Clause when the old Santa died? Was she knitting a stocking then just then, dissappear? B: Does the new Mrs. Clause have to put on the old ones robes and become immortal until someone assassinates Scott? Or does she not and can therefore die in 30 years and then he has to find a new wife?
I've always assumed in the first film that the Santa Tim replaces doesn't actually die, he's just incapacitated and can't do the job. Which is why he disappears with a wave because he knows he's going to be fine and so when he disappears in front of him, he reappears at the North Pole, grabs his wife says his good byes to the elves and gets to live out his retirement. It's
Ya know what, I'm really happy to hear the sins that rip into things like Subtitles and stuff meant to help people that re subpar ON OFFICIAL RELEASES. Sure, on TV and maybe on a bootleg website or disk I don't expect full subtitles - or even good ones. But on the OFFICIAL DVD and other releases, there is really no excuse for the poorly neutered subtitles. It's just ... I consider these actual, sincere, legitimate sins [not just the funny ones we've come to love this channel for] and it's absolutely thrilling to see them pop up because they NEED to be addressed. Even if the movie is like the 40th home alone or something, they should at LEAST have the accessibility correct.
I am not deaf, but my parents can be quite hard of hearing sometimes, so we almost always watch movies with the subtitles on. I've noticed that many movies have inaccurate subtitles, and that drives me up the wall!
If he was angry about Scott being more of a dad to the elves than him it would make sense, if he was angry that he never sees him anymore it would make sense anything other than “I can’t tell my friends my dad is Santa” would’ve made sense as to why he’s harbouring resentment
@@mrcritical6751 I thought that was kind of implied, though. like, the principle mentions that he's absent from Charlie's life so his acting out and Scott not knowing about it makes sense, while Charlie knows that it's because his job is so unique and all-encompassing that others his age wouldn't fully get how much it affects him. he could definitely lie about the details though to still be able to talk about the issue and find peers he relates to in that way. or was that just me assuming there was more to the situation than just Charlie being upset about being the only one to know his dad is Santa?
@@washedblue Charlie talks about how keeping Scott’s secret made him feel like his whole life is built on keeping secrets which started his acting out, although I can also see Charlie acting out being done to try and get his dad’s attention especially when he continues to mess with Carol because he’s probably annoyed Scott came back but is focusing more on finding a wife than with being with him
One thing I want to know is how does that snow globe thing work, I mean the first one established that it can let him see his dad "anytime day or night", at at the end it shows that him shaking the bulb doesn't make Santa instantly appear but have to travel there... So Unless your dad's a total dick, HOW IN THE F DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH HIM! As far as anyone knows, you can force your dad to see you anytime you want, whats this BS about not being able to tell people about your dad being Santa clause. I get it sometimes holding onto a secret can be hard but how is that specific one hard, what are people laughing at you because only your step dad shows up at your events?
He didn't kill the Santa that guy fell off the roof and disappeared. There's also a fan theory that previous Santa hated his job and wanted out. It goes on to say that he made too much noise hoping to get caught so he could get out of the whole thing. It makes a bit more sense then the whole I wish I'd never been Santa at all thing from the third movie.
I've always wondered what happened to the previous Mrs Claus. Did she disappear when Santa did when he fell off the roof? Did the elves boot her out before Scott got back to the north pole? The thoughts that keep me awake at night.
2:06 He can paint that tree with spray paint. He would however need a hard edge or tape to achieve those crisp lines. (no change to the score, just clarifying)
Why was Carol/Mrs Claus depicted as old in the closing credits, yet she's apparently back to her old appearance by the third movie? That never made sense to me.
@@rosssapp6990 I feel like that’s a “we didn’t write the plot to accommodate for it” problem. Having Carol looking like a fat old woman in a plot where she has to be 1. Pregnant and 2. Meet up with her parents and hide the truth about her and Scott’s life isn’t exactly a plot that can work when she’s as old as them and wouldn’t look pregnant at first glance
I agree with almost everything the one thing that just keeps jumping out at me was the comment about the hat on the Velociraptor toy. It's a kangaroo that's why it had the Outback hat on still stupid but makes much more sense when you realize it's kangaroo not a dinosaur lol
Also he wasn't holding the naughty/nice list when he asked for it, he was holding the rulebook that Curtis gave him. Seems like CinemaSins is guilty of its own accusation in this video. Also Scott knew Principal Newman longer than a few weeks. He's met with her before this movie which they both comment on during the p/t conference scene. Also he's Santa and thus has intimate knowledge of everyone's lives, so he knows her better than an average person would in this situation.
@@jackofblades4374 he had the list before he had the rulebook though, didn't he? like, the list disappeared during a cut and was replaced by the book and then he asked for the list again? at least, that's what i assume cinema sins is sinning. i haven't watched the movie in years :(
@@erxs no they never gave him the list until he asked for it. He was never supposed to check it because they knew he wasn't capable of making appropriate decisions. He was just supposed to fill in and fool the other elves into thinking Santa hadn't left the north pole until Scott got back. None of the other elves even knew about the Mrs. Clause, it was something Curtis stumbled on while he was reading the rules. Based on the number of snowglobes in the third movie, there have been a LOT of different Santas (scott said he had a couple million snowglobes, each representing a past santa), and it seems like most don't last long enough for the Mrs. Clause to even matter. They didn't want to start a panic and wanted to keep all the elves on track to finish their work in time for Christmas. So they made toy santa and didn't tell the other elves about the Mrs. Clause.
@@jackofblades4374 My question is: How bad is the education system at the North Pole? Even a rookie elf could tell Toy Santa from the real one! Maybe they just shrugged and said, "I'm just an employee, not my problem."
Is it bad that I liked this movie more than the first? I actually liked the romance between Santa and the principal, I liked the scene where he gives the school faculty gifts from their childhood, and I thought the evil Toy Santa was hilarious. At least it isn't a mess compared to the third film.
@@Shippou011 Honestly, while I liked the time travel plot of the third film, I feel like a lot of the first half of it, with Frost sabotaging Scott's life, could have been cut down considerably. We spend way too much time in that film watching Scott basically going through a mid life crisis and the time travel plot, the plot that this movie advertised and that I was excited to see, started too late into the movie and wrapped up too quickly in my opinion. If I were to fix one thing in TSC3, I would cut a lot of the first half of the film out and film more of the third quarter where Scott experiences the altered present, like really hammering in how bad the changed future is and his journey to save the future.
you like what you like! tbh, upon rewatching it as an adult, I didn't care for the romance because of how short and forced it seemed, especially for something as monumental as finding a Mrs. Claus (and her not knowing this) but I get that that isn't uncommon in romcoms. the scene of him giving out presents to the faculty was fantastic, though!
Super Unpopular Opinion: I like them all. All 3. Yep, I understand it’s definitely nostalgia affected, and there are things I dislike in every movie. But I can’t help but enjoy these films and watch them every time I get the chance!
Unpopular Opinion: I actually really enjoy this movie and I think it’s a great sequel. I watch it every Christmas season in a double feature with the first movie. Less said about the third movie, the better.
why do you like it? bec Charlie aged a bit? Tim allen looks EXACTLY like a santa ? the girl in this was hot as hell....don't forget Judge Reinhold being second fiddle to Ho Ho Ho
The reason why they didn't go over the matrimony with Tim Santa in the first place, is that they haven't had a Santa last this long to need to know the Mrs. Clause.
A bit disappointed in the writers of this for not pointing out that the North Pole is just over 2000 miles from Russia and Santa could have just mail ordered a bride and saved all the trouble.
The Peter Boyle cameo is even weirder when you consider he had a cameo in the first movie as Scott Calvin's boss. Did he fall victim to the Father Timeshare? Also, if Santa has the power to just make toys then why does he need the elves? Sure, his magic is limited for the duration of this movie, but what about the rest of the time?
The problem I have with Charlie is that he acts like him not being able to tell people his dad is Santa Clause is such a big burden. But literally him telling people his dad was Santa clause caused his dad to lose visitation rights and people didn't believe him at all. If he were to tell people now they would not only not believe him but make fun of him about it too.
Hell kids made fun of him even when he was a little kid and told them, in the first movie after he says “my dad is Santa, he killed the last guy and took his job” a kid makes a joking comment about how he’s gonna throw Scott off a roof and steal his clothes
I'm not gonna lie, i liked it. Same with the original. I hated the third but still, two out of 3 isn't a bad record. I realize that both movies brought some rather disturbing implications. Like how murdering Santa makes you the new Santa, and how you HAVE to be married to continue being Santa, and how cupid could have just hit a random normal woman with the arrow and had her bonded to Santa for life, but they're still not the worst Christmas movies i've ever seen...they're not even the darkest or most disturbing. This is one of those movies where, if you just don't question anything and go along for the ride, you can have a good time.
I wondered when The Santa Clause 2 was going to be sinned. There were some sins I'm glad were mentioned. Hope to see a sins video for the third movie soon.
7:50 "I THINK SANTA FEELS A LITTLE BUZZ!!" 16:54 "YOU ARE A SAD, STRANGE LITTLE MAN!!" Ya get it? Because Tim Allen portrayed Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story franchise. My favorite lines in the movie.
I was looking for this comment. That’s exactly what happened and I guess someone wasn’t paying enough attention to the movie to know and sinned it anyway.
Even if it's technically not a Christmas movie, I wonder if we'll finally get "EWW Rise of the Guardians" before the year ends (or at the very least around next Easter) lol
You should sin "Santa Claus: The Movie" from 1985, with Dudley Moore as an elf and John Lithgow as an evil toy company executive. It's a real turd -- probably the worst Santa movie ever made.
You're forgetting Santa Claus and The Ice Cream Bunny. Worst production values and the most annoyingly wretched soundtrack ever. You will hate gazoos after this.
My mother and brother both hard-of-hearing so growing up everything had closed captioning on in our house and I specifically remember catching those captioning errors on the DVD. And playing those shity DVD games that came with it lol
At least the Elves were SMILING in this movie and looking like they were ENJOYING their work. In the third movie they looked downright MISERABLE, even before scary Jack Frost Santa took over.
Unless he didn't have the job long enough to need to get one. This movie takes place years after the first one, if the Santa from the first movie was only Santa for a couple years, he would never have had the Mrs. Clause invoked on him.
Charlie's tooth has nothing to do with Scott's wedding it is however how they got to the North Pole. He pulled out a tooth to get the tooth fairy there.
2:11 I mean if you start with the outline using one of those can hose attachments, then overlay the green as a “fill in” stencil style you could do lines like that. But for an amateur, even myself, yeah not happening.
It's a kangaroo, not a velociraptor toy dingus. A cowboy kangaroo apparently. One sin for you. Also Scott and Carol knew each other for years. That was made clear.
I think I almost died when he told the kid to slide the fuck out of the bow-tied chair. It was so deadpan, like he seriously couldn't believe he had to say it.
Here's a big sin you missed. Where the hell is the previous Mrs. Claus? The fact she is nowhere to be found and never mentioned has some disturbing ramifications. Like, does she die the moment Santa does? Are their lives literally tied and that if one dies the other does too? If that is the case what if she died before Christmas and as a result killed Santa but there was no one nearby to take over? Could an elf do it? If her life isn't tied to his in a shared death does that imply that the elves just get rid of her? Is the old Mrs. Claus just sent out on a chunk of ice or something? Or did the prior Santa some how find a way to stay Santa for years without needing a wife? None of this is ever explained. Honestly there could have been some interesting elements with a former Mrs. Claus being alive, she could despise Scott for murdering her husband, or the exact opposite and she treats it like nothing ever happened and it scares him how nice she is to him despite killing her husband. follow up sin. Does the whole kill them and replace them rule apply for the other holiday figures? Have their been multiple Easter bunnies? How horrifying is that transformation? What about father time? Does replacing him just make you age into the oldest person alive even if your a kid? That could be nightmarish.
wish you'd sin an Ernest movie.... Seriously, I love those movies, specially when Ernest goes to jail and I just couldn't figure out why, but evil Ernest taught me all about Stranger Danger like no other.
The number of comments and stories i see if people bagging on this movie because he has to 'force' a woman to move there and marry him, when it's pretty well established that it has to be a willing participant, and when it comes down to it, he needs a woman to save Christmas. Also, Curtis explains he got their via jet pack and it didn't work anymore
He was Santa for enough time for Charlie to age 8 years, and no one told him about the Mrs. Clause. And 28 days until his deadline was when he was told.
He can fix the toy because he's F***ING SANTA HE'S A TOY MAN IT'S SOMETHING THAT ANY SANTA CAN DO also like you said in the first movie he worked in toy manufacturing he would definitely know his way around toys
Movie deserves an additional twenty sins for replacing the cool, confident, and generally useful Bernard with his bumbling cartoon nitwit of a twin brother
Have you...never been to public school? Parents can come and check their kids out of school at will, not to mention that after a huge disciplinary meeting like that, even if the kid is ultimately not expelled, they are usually sent home for the rest of the day.
Outtakes are here: th-cam.com/video/YPS20_kUzGk/w-d-xo.html
I think you forgot something what happened to the previous Mrs. Claus when this guy took over? Did she spontaneously combust? Dust away like Spiderman? Was she brutally murdered saw style when her husband/Santa before died?!?
Do the movie Klaus next
@@undertaletimetravler3635 Go off the logic of the 3rd movie if a Santa is caught or wishes to never be Saint Nick at all the Mr. And Mrs. Claus are put back in their old lives before they became the magical beings
Can you please do
"Everything wrong with They Live"
I've always been befuddled, when the closed caption subtitles meant for the deaf, will put up the closet appropriate word, if a glass drops a d
breaks, you're made aware of it with ..." breaking glass "
If you have zero frame of reference, you have no idea what that sound would be
Okay but the scene at the faculty party where all their faces light up when he gives them childhood toys is kind of heartwarming
Definitely my favorite scene in the movie
@@harrisonho8934 mine too.
Likewise, it's always been one of my favourite moments too, seeing them rediscover their inner children again!
Has watching eww not taught you anything? Jeremy is a soulless monster
@@kickhuggy Ya but he's our soulless monster
The biggest sin that bothered me about the movie is we heard nothing about the previous Santa's wife.
yeah, what about that? did she bite the big one when the old santa did? did she get evicted when the elves found out? did she get turned into an elf? was she already and elf and she got demoted to worker? is she just kind of hanging out somewhere mourning her dead husband while his murderer wears his old clothes and talks down to his old minions?
Her life must be tied to Santa. Since he lives on and on and on, if he is 500 when he dies she goes out to.
Very strong point there!
The old santa sucked so maybe he was also new to the job lol
when Santa dies... She dies..................... thats in the fine fine fine FINE print at the bottom of the Santa Clause...😆🤣
A: What happened to the old Mrs. Clause when the old Santa died? Was she knitting a stocking then just then, dissappear?
B: Does the new Mrs. Clause have to put on the old ones robes and become immortal until someone assassinates Scott? Or does she not and can therefore die in 30 years and then he has to find a new wife?
She turned into a Befana and stuck a broomstick into her P!#$% to fly high and beyond.
@@TheGrmany69 well then
And how did the elves not know? Heck in the first movie the one who makes hot chocolate said she’s like a thousand years old.
I've always assumed in the first film that the Santa Tim replaces doesn't actually die, he's just incapacitated and can't do the job. Which is why he disappears with a wave because he knows he's going to be fine and so when he disappears in front of him, he reappears at the North Pole, grabs his wife says his good byes to the elves and gets to live out his retirement. It's
The end credits show Carol old and looking more like a traditional Mrs Clause so I think she has the same immortality as Scott
Ya know what, I'm really happy to hear the sins that rip into things like Subtitles and stuff meant to help people that re subpar ON OFFICIAL RELEASES. Sure, on TV and maybe on a bootleg website or disk I don't expect full subtitles - or even good ones. But on the OFFICIAL DVD and other releases, there is really no excuse for the poorly neutered subtitles.
It's just ... I consider these actual, sincere, legitimate sins [not just the funny ones we've come to love this channel for] and it's absolutely thrilling to see them pop up because they NEED to be addressed. Even if the movie is like the 40th home alone or something, they should at LEAST have the accessibility correct.
I am not deaf, but my parents can be quite hard of hearing sometimes, so we almost always watch movies with the subtitles on. I've noticed that many movies have inaccurate subtitles, and that drives me up the wall!
I’m so glad you sinned Charlie. I’m always like “Oh, boohoo” when he cries over not being able to tell his friends his dad is Santa.
I know, right? What teenager is actually crying over this? I never understood it. It's disturbing, really.
If he was angry about Scott being more of a dad to the elves than him it would make sense, if he was angry that he never sees him anymore it would make sense anything other than “I can’t tell my friends my dad is Santa” would’ve made sense as to why he’s harbouring resentment
@@mrcritical6751 I thought that was kind of implied, though. like, the principle mentions that he's absent from Charlie's life so his acting out and Scott not knowing about it makes sense, while Charlie knows that it's because his job is so unique and all-encompassing that others his age wouldn't fully get how much it affects him. he could definitely lie about the details though to still be able to talk about the issue and find peers he relates to in that way.
or was that just me assuming there was more to the situation than just Charlie being upset about being the only one to know his dad is Santa?
@@washedblue Charlie talks about how keeping Scott’s secret made him feel like his whole life is built on keeping secrets which started his acting out, although I can also see Charlie acting out being done to try and get his dad’s attention especially when he continues to mess with Carol because he’s probably annoyed Scott came back but is focusing more on finding a wife than with being with him
One thing I want to know is how does that snow globe thing work, I mean the first one established that it can let him see his dad "anytime day or night", at at the end it shows that him shaking the bulb doesn't make Santa instantly appear but have to travel there... So Unless your dad's a total dick, HOW IN THE F DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH HIM!
As far as anyone knows, you can force your dad to see you anytime you want, whats this BS about not being able to tell people about your dad being Santa clause. I get it sometimes holding onto a secret can be hard but how is that specific one hard, what are people laughing at you because only your step dad shows up at your events?
The scene where Scott warms up a dull Xmas party by giving everyone gifts from their childhood was very heartwarming for me.
I love that part!
That's the bit I have always remembered. I still tear up a little every time.
Seeing is believing believing in Seeing
A liiiiittle bit creepy tho lol
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I'm not even deaf and it annoys me when the subtitles don't match what's being said.
Well i doubt you’d know what was actually being said if you were deaf
@@robynnhoud That just makes it much worse
If you're not deaf, why have subtitles on in the first place?
Deaf people aren’t the only ones who use subtitles. Auditory processing disorder makes subtitles very nice.
@@TheKrensada auditory processing disorder
He didn't kill the Santa that guy fell off the roof and disappeared. There's also a fan theory that previous Santa hated his job and wanted out. It goes on to say that he made too much noise hoping to get caught so he could get out of the whole thing. It makes a bit more sense then the whole I wish I'd never been Santa at all thing from the third movie.
Damn, that's dark. A suicidal Santa? Holy shit.
If he hated his job so much, why didn't he just use the escape clause and not f*cking kill himself
Have you watched The Santa Clauses yet?
I've always wondered what happened to the previous Mrs Claus. Did she disappear when Santa did when he fell off the roof? Did the elves boot her out before Scott got back to the north pole? The thoughts that keep me awake at night.
It’s possible that the previous Santa was still new to the job and hadn’t got to the point where he needed to find a Mrs Claus yet.!
2:06 He can paint that tree with spray paint. He would however need a hard edge or tape to achieve those crisp lines. (no change to the score, just clarifying)
Why was Carol/Mrs Claus depicted as old in the closing credits, yet she's apparently back to her old appearance by the third movie? That never made sense to me.
Because it would cost too much to have two characters in constant old age makeup and fat-suits fit most of the movie
They actually tried to get her in fat makeup in the next movie but they realized it just did not work. It was actually pretty funny.
Wait what?
@@rosssapp6990 I feel like that’s a “we didn’t write the plot to accommodate for it” problem. Having Carol looking like a fat old woman in a plot where she has to be 1. Pregnant and 2. Meet up with her parents and hide the truth about her and Scott’s life isn’t exactly a plot that can work when she’s as old as them and wouldn’t look pregnant at first glance
@Leonardo Santuario That doesn't excuse plot holes.
So... are we gonna address the "velociraptor" toy? That's a kangaroo, the hat must be an australian thing, IDK... 😂
Definitely an Australian thing - it's an Akubra, basically the Australian equivalent of a cowboy hat
THANK YOU!!!!
Australia is America and Canada's favorite brother along with New Zealand but they don't like India
It is actually called a Slouch Hat, worn by the Australian Army
I'm glad someone else noticed too xD
I agree with almost everything the one thing that just keeps jumping out at me was the comment about the hat on the Velociraptor toy. It's a kangaroo that's why it had the Outback hat on still stupid but makes much more sense when you realize it's kangaroo not a dinosaur lol
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that caught that.
Also he wasn't holding the naughty/nice list when he asked for it, he was holding the rulebook that Curtis gave him. Seems like CinemaSins is guilty of its own accusation in this video.
Also Scott knew Principal Newman longer than a few weeks. He's met with her before this movie which they both comment on during the p/t conference scene. Also he's Santa and thus has intimate knowledge of everyone's lives, so he knows her better than an average person would in this situation.
@@jackofblades4374 he had the list before he had the rulebook though, didn't he? like, the list disappeared during a cut and was replaced by the book and then he asked for the list again? at least, that's what i assume cinema sins is sinning. i haven't watched the movie in years :(
@@erxs no they never gave him the list until he asked for it. He was never supposed to check it because they knew he wasn't capable of making appropriate decisions. He was just supposed to fill in and fool the other elves into thinking Santa hadn't left the north pole until Scott got back.
None of the other elves even knew about the Mrs. Clause, it was something Curtis stumbled on while he was reading the rules. Based on the number of snowglobes in the third movie, there have been a LOT of different Santas (scott said he had a couple million snowglobes, each representing a past santa), and it seems like most don't last long enough for the Mrs. Clause to even matter.
They didn't want to start a panic and wanted to keep all the elves on track to finish their work in time for Christmas. So they made toy santa and didn't tell the other elves about the Mrs. Clause.
@@jackofblades4374 My question is: How bad is the education system at the North Pole? Even a rookie elf could tell Toy Santa from the real one! Maybe they just shrugged and said, "I'm just an employee, not my problem."
Is it bad that I liked this movie more than the first? I actually liked the romance between Santa and the principal, I liked the scene where he gives the school faculty gifts from their childhood, and I thought the evil Toy Santa was hilarious. At least it isn't a mess compared to the third film.
I liked it
If I remember correctly Rodger Ebert even said that he liked this one more than the original it has a great deal of affection towards it
@@Shippou011 Honestly, while I liked the time travel plot of the third film, I feel like a lot of the first half of it, with Frost sabotaging Scott's life, could have been cut down considerably. We spend way too much time in that film watching Scott basically going through a mid life crisis and the time travel plot, the plot that this movie advertised and that I was excited to see, started too late into the movie and wrapped up too quickly in my opinion. If I were to fix one thing in TSC3, I would cut a lot of the first half of the film out and film more of the third quarter where Scott experiences the altered present, like really hammering in how bad the changed future is and his journey to save the future.
you like what you like! tbh, upon rewatching it as an adult, I didn't care for the romance because of how short and forced it seemed, especially for something as monumental as finding a Mrs. Claus (and her not knowing this) but I get that that isn't uncommon in romcoms. the scene of him giving out presents to the faculty was fantastic, though!
The Third movie is like four movies in one (poking fun at the fact in LMS Jay Leno say these movies felt like six movies)
Super Unpopular Opinion: I like them all. All 3. Yep, I understand it’s definitely nostalgia affected, and there are things I dislike in every movie. But I can’t help but enjoy these films and watch them every time I get the chance!
Finally! Someone else who loves the 3rd too. Jack Frost is awesome and I love that movie !
No idea why Elizabeth Mitchell isn't a bigger star. She's a good actress and beautiful as all get out.
she was in 2007-09
“Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?” - Santa Clause 2 caption writers
Unpopular Opinion: I actually really enjoy this movie and I think it’s a great sequel. I watch it every Christmas season in a double feature with the first movie. Less said about the third movie, the better.
no wonder it's unpopular (jk)
I hadn’t seen the first one in 15 years since I was a kid and saw it on Netflix last year, I forgot how cheesy it was 😂
why do you like it? bec Charlie aged a bit? Tim allen looks EXACTLY like a santa ? the girl in this was hot as hell....don't forget Judge Reinhold being second fiddle to Ho Ho Ho
I loved it too ❤️❤️
Agreed. It’s overhated
"It's... Charlie." "Sheen? I thought he straightened out." That joke aged poorly, methinks!
Actually, I think it's funnier now than it would've been at the time of this movie's release.
That joke makes me really question why Scott thinks the elves would give him info about Charlie Sheen randomly
“Is that a jet pack?”
Tell me you don’t remember the first Santa Clause movie without telling me.
Tim Allen as the toy Santa is still so hysterical!
Yep
Lol
How did the "DeSantafication process has begun" line not get a sin?
Because the delivery is hilarious?
@@broadwaybaby8914 This is true. Good enough for a sin removal?
@@broadwaybaby8914 its a fantastic line to be fair
Spencer Breslin was doing an obvious Jim Carrey thing with that line read and it turned out to be genuinely amusing! 🤣
The reason why they didn't go over the matrimony with Tim Santa in the first place, is that they haven't had a Santa last this long to need to know the Mrs. Clause.
A bit disappointed in the writers of this for not pointing out that the North Pole is just over 2000 miles from Russia and Santa could have just mail ordered a bride and saved all the trouble.
now that would be one sexy woman lol and she woulnt mind the cold
Most underrated comment on the whole thing
Your genuine rage at this movie is hilarious. Best channel on TH-cam.
The Peter Boyle cameo is even weirder when you consider he had a cameo in the first movie as Scott Calvin's boss. Did he fall victim to the Father Timeshare?
Also, if Santa has the power to just make toys then why does he need the elves? Sure, his magic is limited for the duration of this movie, but what about the rest of the time?
i think it helps he has the beard disguise cuz u wouldnt recognize him.
i'm giving you a like for that funny pun
He probably wanted to get away from Marie
The problem I have with Charlie is that he acts like him not being able to tell people his dad is Santa Clause is such a big burden. But literally him telling people his dad was Santa clause caused his dad to lose visitation rights and people didn't believe him at all. If he were to tell people now they would not only not believe him but make fun of him about it too.
Hell kids made fun of him even when he was a little kid and told them, in the first movie after he says “my dad is Santa, he killed the last guy and took his job” a kid makes a joking comment about how he’s gonna throw Scott off a roof and steal his clothes
maybe thats why he keeps it a secret , fear of getting commited
"Whoever is hosting jeopardy today" absolutely killed me 😂
2:47
Cinemasins calls this toy a Velociraptor when it is clearly a Kangaroo.
*Ding*
I'm not gonna lie, i liked it. Same with the original. I hated the third but still, two out of 3 isn't a bad record. I realize that both movies brought some rather disturbing implications. Like how murdering Santa makes you the new Santa, and how you HAVE to be married to continue being Santa, and how cupid could have just hit a random normal woman with the arrow and had her bonded to Santa for life, but they're still not the worst Christmas movies i've ever seen...they're not even the darkest or most disturbing. This is one of those movies where, if you just don't question anything and go along for the ride, you can have a good time.
Me too! I loved this movie and the first one!
I’m the opposite, I can’t stand this one but the third is one of my favorites cus I love Martin Short.
The first one is my favourite, but I like all three of them and I watch them every year. The third one is definitely my least favourite though.
I like all three, but I like the third the least. Still watch them yearly though 😂
Santa Clasue:The Movie from 1985 is the Darkest Christmas kids film ive seen and its a fantstic film and so OTT with Litgow hamming it up to the last.
The evil dictator Santa is one of the few things I remember about this movie.
I wondered when The Santa Clause 2 was going to be sinned. There were some sins I'm glad were mentioned. Hope to see a sins video for the third movie soon.
The 3rd movie is just a crime.
I can't wait to see his reaction to Jack Frost hitting on Mrs. Claus' mother with hot chocolate and narcissistic serenades.
@@SaraRyderN7 I thought Martin Short was okay in it but yeah there should've only been the original.
I just finished Lost a couple days ago and “principal Juliet” had me dying
Did the sin guy call a kangaroo, a velociraptor? The hat was probably an outback hat because kangaroos, and Australia...
Cinema Sins sins: 1
It’s called a Slouch hat. Probably made by Akubra
yeah he did us aussies bad lol
7:50 "I THINK SANTA FEELS A LITTLE BUZZ!!"
16:54 "YOU ARE A SAD, STRANGE LITTLE MAN!!"
Ya get it? Because Tim Allen portrayed Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story franchise. My favorite lines in the movie.
You think this one is bad? Oh ho ho ho ho, I don't think you can handle the third one, The Escape Clause...
What happened to the previous Mrs Claus and possibly their family when Tim Allen killed Santa?
It’s possible that the previous Santa was still new to the job and hadn’t got to the point where he needed to find a Mrs Claus yet.!
Seeing how the previous Santa was big enough of a klutz to fall off a roof and make too much noise I’m pretty certain he was new to the job
@@mrcritical6751 thats hillarious LOL
“Its Charlie.”
“Sheen? I thought he’d straightened out.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ha
Lol
Everything Wrong With A Christmas Story needs to happen this Christmas and Jeremy knows that he can’t ignore it!
Question: why did Jeremy go nuts with rage when the head elf said “It’s the Mrs. Claus?” Even for him that seems like a gross overreaction
Maybe the joke was way too cheesy. Kind of like a "dad joke" that goes too far. 4:25
Yeah, here's a question for you - WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PORNO SPAM REPLIES!?
bec its a cheap cheap cheap cheap ploy on words. its really bad abd basic comedy.
Ok I think I get it. It’s a pun on both Mrs. Claus the person, and the Mrs. clause the rule they’re talking about…yeah that’s kinda lame
It's the same pun that moves the plot of the first movie, so I guess that at least makes it consistent
The funny thing is that was watching this movie when I got this notification. Can anyone spell coincidence?
Coincidence
I'm not watching the movie, I'm actually watching the complete series DVD of jimmy neutron.
Koinsidense.
Coencidents
I hope you know this is a joke lol
I think not!!!
Honestly, I enjoy this more than the first movie.
Agreed
Me too!
If I remember correctly Charlie pulled his tooth so he could get the tooth fairy to bring him to the North Pole
I was looking for this comment. That’s exactly what happened and I guess someone wasn’t paying enough attention to the movie to know and sinned it anyway.
@@simgirl451 "hyper-observant" he says
@@simgirl451 getting lazy
Just to let you know that Curtis is played by the same actor that played Conrad in the atrocious Cat in the Hat movie
He was in "The Kid" before this, one of my mom's favorites.
In which Tim Allen was supposed to star but backed out.
That movie was horrifying
@@CrushingGrizzly98 so bad Dr Seuss’s widow forbade anymore live action movies based on his work
1:01 I'm actually impressed they got the "Defcon" system correct (with the numbers going down as the situation gets worse).
Even if it's technically not a Christmas movie, I wonder if we'll finally get "EWW Rise of the Guardians" before the year ends (or at the very least around next Easter) lol
You should sin "Santa Claus: The Movie" from 1985, with Dudley Moore as an elf and John Lithgow as an evil toy company executive. It's a real turd -- probably the worst Santa movie ever made.
Umm.Santa Claus Conquers the Martians has entered the chat.
@@jbvader721 Santa Claus Conquers the Martians was at least amusingly silly.
@@raydunakin Especially with the MST3K track.
@@jbvader721 MST3K makes it hilarious!
You're forgetting Santa Claus and The Ice Cream Bunny. Worst production values and the most annoyingly wretched soundtrack ever. You will hate gazoos after this.
I love how he just rolled off all of Tim Allen’s roles
2:16 Principal Juliet? Not sure if this was a mistake, or someone just really likes Lost!
My mother and brother both hard-of-hearing so growing up everything had closed captioning on in our house and I specifically remember catching those captioning errors on the DVD. And playing those shity DVD games that came with it lol
To quote a line with "Santa clause 2" "seeing is believing believing in seeing"
Love it when Jeremy goes off about the subtitles
I’ve watched this video three times in the last day or two, the line “fuck the deaf write fewer words” has made me laugh a little harder each time
2:50 sin off. I’m pretty sure that’s a kangaroo with a bush hat on.
"Velociraptor toy" is a kangaroo, and the hat is supposed to be the stereotypical aussie hat +1 sin for cinema sins
Ah yes, nice to see Tim Allen earning himself another house
I loved Tim Allen in this movie. When he hit his head on the file cabinet I lost it. That was the funniest thing to me as a kid
It’s still funny. Neil’s new age psychology crap was always annoying/boring.
At least the Elves were SMILING in this movie and looking like they were ENJOYING their work. In the third movie they looked downright MISERABLE, even before scary Jack Frost Santa took over.
The Burger King steals Santa's position.
Love that he knows the opening to Muppets Christmas Carol!
Something I've wondered is, if he needs to have a Mrs. Clause to be Santa, what happened to the old Santa's wife? He must of had one right?
Shhh we don't talk about it... Elf secret
Reindeer food.
Unless he didn't have the job long enough to need to get one. This movie takes place years after the first one, if the Santa from the first movie was only Santa for a couple years, he would never have had the Mrs. Clause invoked on him.
I’m beginning to think CinemaSins did not get along with his dad, and his dad was a BIG Tim Allen fan in the 90s and early 2000s.
*ding
I remember liking these movies as a kid…and then rewatching them as an adult and kind of hating them. It’s the Rankin Bass effect!
Damn I normally LOVE watching you tear apart all my favorite movies....but this one hurt a little extra
Let’s go this film is good but some things have gone really wrong😂
Indeed, it's a goodie, but has plenty of sins!
@@trinaq yes
I enjoyed all 3 of the movies, even going back years later lol...I also remember having a major crush on Bernard
This is funny so far, love ur content😂
Jeremy do you really think that toy was a velociraptor? It's clearly an Aussie kangaroo.
What's concerning is that the Blind Date's Santa shirt literally has Tim Allen's face on it
I noticed that too 😂
Dang Christmas really has Jeremy in the mood, eh?
😂😂😂😂
Charlie's tooth has nothing to do with Scott's wedding it is however how they got to the North Pole. He pulled out a tooth to get the tooth fairy there.
If he hates this sequel, I'd hate to see his thoughts of the third film that EVERYONE hates.
2:11 I mean if you start with the outline using one of those can hose attachments, then overlay the green as a “fill in” stencil style you could do lines like that. But for an amateur, even myself, yeah not happening.
The "whoever is hosting jeopardy today" joke killed me im ngl
I'm gonna have to give CINEMASINS a sin for mistaking a kangaroo toy for a velociraptor.
0:18 😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I love that reference!
It's a kangaroo, not a velociraptor toy dingus. A cowboy kangaroo apparently. One sin for you.
Also Scott and Carol knew each other for years. That was made clear.
I think I almost died when he told the kid to slide the fuck out of the bow-tied chair. It was so deadpan, like he seriously couldn't believe he had to say it.
Here's a big sin you missed. Where the hell is the previous Mrs. Claus? The fact she is nowhere to be found and never mentioned has some disturbing ramifications. Like, does she die the moment Santa does? Are their lives literally tied and that if one dies the other does too? If that is the case what if she died before Christmas and as a result killed Santa but there was no one nearby to take over? Could an elf do it? If her life isn't tied to his in a shared death does that imply that the elves just get rid of her? Is the old Mrs. Claus just sent out on a chunk of ice or something? Or did the prior Santa some how find a way to stay Santa for years without needing a wife? None of this is ever explained. Honestly there could have been some interesting elements with a former Mrs. Claus being alive, she could despise Scott for murdering her husband, or the exact opposite and she treats it like nothing ever happened and it scares him how nice she is to him despite killing her husband.
follow up sin. Does the whole kill them and replace them rule apply for the other holiday figures? Have their been multiple Easter bunnies? How horrifying is that transformation? What about father time? Does replacing him just make you age into the oldest person alive even if your a kid? That could be nightmarish.
It’s possible that the previous Santa was still new to the job and hadn’t got to the point where he needed to find a Mrs Claus yet.!
If I recall the first movie says he held the job for a few years, so he should have had too
They wew kangaroos not raptors lol explains the hat :P
wish you'd sin an Ernest movie.... Seriously, I love those movies, specially when Ernest goes to jail and I just couldn't figure out why, but evil Ernest taught me all about Stranger Danger like no other.
"Know what I mean, Vern?"
I remember watching this movie as a kid
That's not a velociraptor, it's a kangaroo.
The number of comments and stories i see if people bagging on this movie because he has to 'force' a woman to move there and marry him, when it's pretty well established that it has to be a willing participant, and when it comes down to it, he needs a woman to save Christmas.
Also, Curtis explains he got their via jet pack and it didn't work anymore
I can’t the only one who desperately wants the CinemaSins crew to sin “Tokyo Godfathers “ for the holidays!
He was Santa for enough time for Charlie to age 8 years, and no one told him about the Mrs. Clause. And 28 days until his deadline was when he was told.
I would love to see you do an EWW on my favourite Xmas movie - Santa Claus: The Movie.
Almost worth it for John Lithgow hamming it up alone. ;)
Hey,I love this movie.I wished they made part 4
2:17 the Principal Juliet line doesn’t get enough credit. That’s what I thought the first time I saw this too.
Rest in peace Peter Boyle.
Who's on shrooms, seeing a kangaroo with an australian hat and mistake it for a velociraptor...?
Next. Everything Wrong With the Santa Clause 3.
Yes.
Yes.
To me the biggest sin for kids is how the reindeer went from cool and realistic with personality and humour to complete trash
He can fix the toy because he's F***ING SANTA HE'S A TOY MAN IT'S SOMETHING THAT ANY SANTA CAN DO also like you said in the first movie he worked in toy manufacturing he would definitely know his way around toys
Movie deserves an additional twenty sins for replacing the cool, confident, and generally useful Bernard with his bumbling cartoon nitwit of a twin brother
Kids might having magic powers to detect santa
I was like, “YES, it is 100% part of Santa canon that kids can recognize him out of uniform.”
Have you...never been to public school? Parents can come and check their kids out of school at will, not to mention that after a huge disciplinary meeting like that, even if the kid is ultimately not expelled, they are usually sent home for the rest of the day.
Can we get 8 crazy nights next year
I totally got that Principal Juliet reference :D