Hey TFL, the headlight control is not for adjusting according to the darkness outside, it was a timer. The longer the line, the longer the headlights would stay on after you turn off the car. The time would be up to 3 minutes.
Agreed! Not just indestructible, but you will start seeing these at car shows very soon. This summer in fact, as I’m taking my 1993 Lincoln Town Car to the local show in June.
@@maxschlotter4596 The response I get around town has been epic. People so quickly forget about what we used to think of as "Normal". I can hardly drive it anywhere without at least one conversation.
What sold me on these cars was seeing 15 year old models in Saudi Arabia going 80 miles an hour in extreme heat and dusty conditions and were poorly maintained but just kept going and going. So I bought a 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis with 87k miles on it and I love it.
I just bought a 1998 128k Grand Marquis beater with a clean title for $1200. AC works, heater core leaks, the seat is ripped, but I absolutely love it. It drives incredible.
I absolutely love my 2011 LS Ultimate Grand Marquis (33,500 original miles). The air ride suspension is so comfortable on long rides. It may look like a grandpa car, but that's OK for this grandpa 🤙. And yeah its true, I'm often mistaken for a police vehicle and have people move over and slow down on the highways for me.
@@earlscheib7754 That depends.....some other places still has the Crown Victoria on the police Fleet. There's a few places that also has the Grand Marquis on the fleet
@@earlscheib7754 I still see in service police vehicles like this to this day in more rural police departments, a lot of them are still being used also as administrative or detective type vehicles, not necessarily pursuit or patrol.
Memories...This was my Dad's last car. He had a very low mileage '98 Grand Marquis LS in wedgewood blue with a stone gray interior. You just floated down the highway in silence, and it really didn't handle badly for such a large cushy vehicle. In hindsight I wish I would have kept it because it was his and it would probably still be floating along today.
When my Mom was told by her doctor that she couldn't drive any more, I bought her 2000 LS from her. It's so effortless to drive! I'm planning to drive it as long as I can. Parts availability and fuel are the only variables I know of at the moment. It's the only thing I have left of her.
My ‘97 crown vic was honestly the best car I ever owned. I moved my family from Sacramento CA to Dallas TX in that car. We pulled a 6’x12’ enclosed trailer the whole way. Also my family consisted of my wife and I, 4 children, a dog and a cat. The car was an absolute soldier.
I'm sitting in a 97 Crown Victoria right now. I do doordash with it and even though I'm on Long Island in New York, it actually has zero rust underneath. this car was very taken care of and needs nothing but regular maintenance to basically last forever if you protect it from rusting. they just need the plastic intake manifold replaced after 100,000 miles and probably catalytic converters. I blocked off the EGR with a piece of soup can 😁 it's old enough that it's a safety only inspection.
Great buy! I have a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria LX, formerly LAPD detective vehicle. It's got over 150,000 miles on it and still going strong. Long live the Panther platform!
I have over a million miles on Crown Vics and Grand Marquis. I've been driving them for over 30 years. I am a recently retired mechanic for a large municipal fleet services department. The Ford Panther cars were by far the most reliable make and model of vehicle I ever worked on. Just keep them maintained and they will run forever. I currently have a 2006 Grand Marquis that I bought with 97,000 miles on it. It now has 287,000 miles, and still runs fine. I recently bought a 2007 Grand Marquis with only 36,000 miles on it in like new condition, to replace the 2006 with when it finally wears out. Yes, I paid $9000 for it, but I consider that a whopper of a bargain. My ex wife paid $35,000 for a new 2022 Hyundai Accent, and it is a terrible car, at least for me. It is very difficult to get in and out of, and is the most uncomfortable car I've ever been in. It's noisy, the seats are hard as a rock, and it feels like it has no suspension. By contrast, the Grand Marquis is smooth, quiet, the seats are super comfortable, the suspension makes it feel like you are floating on a cloud, it's big, easy to get in and out of, has a V8 engine, rear wheel drive, body on frame construction, and a solid rear axle. It's 2.73 rear axle and overdrive allow it to cruise at 65 mph at just above idle. It's built like a tank. No squeaks or rattles. Parts are cheap and plentiful, both new and used, and should be available for a long time to come, considering just how many of these cars were made.
My 1997 Grand Marquis has 255k miles and is my daily driver. I'm the third generation of my family to own it. The car has served my family for 26 years and still runs fantastic. What is so commonly overlooked about these cars is the potential for relatively fantastic fuel economy. The fact that I can achieve 26-27 mpg on the highway is a testament to how fuel efficient the Ford 4.6L engine really was.
My Panther of choice is the Marauder with the 32V 4.6. Friend of mine had a supercharged one. That thing was fast when you wanted and a boat when you wanted to cruise. @5:25... Ford built a longer wheelbase Panther called the Lincoln Town Car "L". That's the one for rear seat legroom.
These cars are almost indestructible, we ran these as cabs in Boston they never died just worse over time amazing cars! I now own now a P71 09' SAP package ex secret service car means loaded for police model, mine is faster than you might think but its really about its durability. I get over 20mpg's always, and by 09' it had 250hp and almost 300ft lbs and tranny is different.
Tranny is the same AODE4 you’ll find across the CV family. The sport models or the handling package came with duals and a crossover pipe ( same exhaust system as the police models) The P71 crown Victoria police package was equipped with the same trans but it had an updated torque converter with a higher stall speed. Increased line pressure and its biggest thing was an enhanced cooling package for the trans. The bump in engine performance is a combination of the freer flowing dual exhaust ( standard CV single pipe and muffler was good for about 190, the sport package with duals bumped it to 210 and some pulley tweaks and front of engine weight reduction got it to about 220 but a single pipe 99 and up wasn’t much over 210). Police models often had a police exclusive chipset to deliver the extra speed and power ( in many cases final versions of the P71 left police service with their police exclusive chipsets intact). The most defining feature on a P71 CVPI will be its cooling system they weren’t built to outrun a suspect, they were built to outlast the suspects car. Police departments couldn’t replace the CVPI fast enough when those charger police packages came out. Now 4 months into 2023 they’re stockpiling chargers as this is the final year for mopar muscle. As of this fall the ford explorer will be the last factory offered police package ( the dodge ram, Chevy Silverado and ford F-150 police trucks are basically the same base model big engine truck you can buy off the lot)
These have a few things to look out for. The air shocks in these tend to have the height sensor go bad ( it’s a little arm that’s attached to the axle. It’s supposed to shut the compressor off after it reaches ride height. Age and corrosion can Bork the sensor and it will just max out the rear height. Though it’s easy to replace). Next thing to go bad in these is the shift linkage. The linkage can move out of place which can damage certain gears. They’re easy to tighten up. Next is the brakes, being a ford these things can literally eat brakes. The issue is the rotors are too small for the car though this can be corrected with police car brakes or drilled and slotted rotors which will keep you from warping rotors by having better cooling. The final issues revolve around the power window motors and drilling into the trunk. These cars use cable driven power window motors and the cables to on occasion “ bind up”. This can be a problem if the window is down as you have to disassemble the door to “ force “ it back up, replacing the motor can be a real pain as well. The trunk has a weird shelf in it which has nothing on it, this is where the gas tank is located ( on these cars the tank is placed vertically just ahead of the rear axle. Police units have a fire suppression system there as in a serious enough rear collision the axle can be driven forward hard enough to puncture the tank and cause a spark. ) other things to watch for is bad seem repairs and excessive “ wandering”. Those are indicators of possible serious crash damage ( my 1993 was crashed in Florida early in its life and was repaired rather then totaled. It explains why the front brake calipers groaned when you released the brake, the car needed constant attention to stay straight and the trunk leaked) my second car was a 1999. It didn’t have the issues of the 1st one but it did have a few. The best thing I can say about them is they’re a full frame American barge with a soft suspension and depending on age comfortable seats. The Lincoln town cars and grand marquis are my bet for finding a solid panther car that’s not been hammered to hell or beaten to death by a young kid. Some crown Vic’s are good too but you gotta be sure it wasn’t clobbered or run hard and neglected. The ex cop cars are the ones everyone seems to want, don’t buy one unless you know it’s full history. Cops are some of the worst car beaters out there and since a patrol car ain’t theirs. Alternatively fire chief cars are a good buy as they don’t get used all that much either. Provided you got one that’s not rotted to the core or ridden hard and put away wet they can last. Again my suggestion if you’ve got a Grand Marquis or an ex police crown Vic, buy the Mercury. It was probably only driven once or twice a week and was usually parked off the street or kept in a garage. ( my dad who retired close to 12 or 13 years ago hardly drives anymore. ) the panther is one of the few domestic cars that will go to 300,000 or 400,000 miles provided rot doesn’t take it first
@@speedracerjeff I wouldn’t consider a 1/4 time of 15.6 and a zero to 60 of under 6.5 seconds “ slow” for a car that tips the scales over 4,000 pounds. The marauder used the 32V SVT cobra engine which had 320 horsepower stock though it did lack the supercharger of the cobra as the roots type blower wouldn’t fit with the hood down. A centrifical supercharger will however fit and can give a nice 50 plus horsepower boost. Sure a marauder will never match a muscle car for brute power but how many muscle cars can comfortably haul a family and still have enough power and creature comforts to be practical?
@@matthewcaughey8898 they were slow 20 years ago and still slow today lol. I own 2 vehicles that are more comfortable and more luxurious than a Marauder and are also faster… my tune only 2005 Escalade LQ9 6.0 AWD runs high 14s in the 1/4. And I have a 600hp 2003 E55 AMG Benz that has Airmatic struts, rides comfortably and does low 11s in the 1/4, with warming and massaging leather seats to boot… But if you like that Taxi cab Ford look then good for you.
I drove a ton of these cars and I liked the 06+ the best personally handling and performance wise. I forget what year they got electronic throttle bodies, I think 03 or 04 but they sucked whatever year the first ones were. There was a bit of a delay between pedal and throttle but the later ones didn't do that. The 06+ did have one slightly annoying thing, it would bog slightly if you threw it around a corner. I don't know if it was some form of traction control or what. Still liked the 06-12 the best
...while retaining the neutral handling of a cop car. My 2000 makes me giggle it's so effortless to go through corners at a good clip... Without any drama.
I love my 2004 Town Car! I just bought it a month ago with 54,000 miles on it. I had a 2007 Town Car in the past and everything was still in perfect working order when I sold it with 150,000 miles. I’ll be keeping this 2004 for a long time hopefully since I’m currently waiting to trade my 22 RAM Laramie 3500 HO Cummins for a 23 Ford F350 HO platinum dually and want to drive the Town Car regularly unless I’m pulling my 20,000lbs fifth wheel camper
These cars are great and very reliable! The 2003 and up had revised suspension and frames. So these would be a better choice. Anyway, you cant go wrong with the panther plafform!
@@bldontmatter5319 you can buy a kit online that comes with a compressor, 2 air bags, 2 shocks, and the solenoids for $400. The air suspension on panthers has always been relatively inexpensive to fix
In September 2003 my dad took my friend and I to Conan O’Brien’s 10th anniversary special. We were just high school kids. He rented a car and it ended up being a gold grand marquis. The ride was so comfortable and made the trip that much more memorable. He also got pulled over briefly in it by NYPD for taking a right on red. Legal in CT where we’re from, not legal in NYC. Great memories. It looks way smaller now that I daily drive a W140.
Been driving a 2010 ultimate edition for 2 years now. One of my favorite cars I've ever owned. No modern car soaks up highway miles like a panther body. I average 23 mpg with about 70/30 highway/city driving
I love my 99 grand marquis, just finished doing valve cover gaskets, intake manifold and replace the ac compressor, at 183k miles and a few bumps it runs like new, these cars are so easy to work on, I do all the maintenance myself.
I've damn near run my 2v 4.6 Mustang out of oil while pushing it to redline. When I did a pi head swap every cylinder still had the factory cross hatching. It's approaching 200k miles on the bottom end now making quite a bit more power than original
Great car. But Ford placed the heater core behind the passenger side dashboard ... they will go up at around 150k, they all do and it takes forever to swap, mechanics hate doing it too... On the plus side i was able to get 28-30 on an almost all highway 2 hour drive i used to make once a week. I loved the digital dash and watching the instantaneous mpg. Also the door keypad means you will never need a locksmith... and if you stop to run in the Wawa you can leave the AC on for your pup and not need extra keys. I had a 2000 model and it served me well, only the fuel pump stranded me in 5 yrs.
The 2002 and earlier panthers have a better ride quality, the 2003 and up have better handling. To me, the ‘95, ‘96, and ‘97 Town Cars have the cushiest seats. You are spot on about the long engine life being a product of being understressed with low horsepower - do not hot rod the engine!
As reliable as Toyotas are, the Crown Vic is still my standard for long term reliability. So many of them had long lives as police cars, and then went on to have a SECOND long life as a taxi. They just keep going. When I bought my first car, I very seriously considered a Crown Vic. They're spacious, they're reliable, and they're cheap. If I find myself in need of a new car at some point, I will once again consider a Crown Vic. They're just cool cars.
I love my panther. daily drive it in Sweden, where gas prices are insane. Comfort is superb, and i really enjoy driving it every day. It's a 2000 MGC LS but with single exhaust so "only" 200hp, but it's enough. With "only" 120000 miles it's a fun and comfortable car to drive. I'd like to have that steering wheel though, i only have cruise control on mine. The 2000 MGC has the traction control button in the glove box, btw. A yellow button, unlabeled...
I remember the Lincoln town car was such a cruiser. Rolling around in high school in my buddy's dad's car bumping biggie lol. Now it's a classic, damn? I feel my age.
I was involved in a wreck & needed q ride while I was waiting on the insurance payout. Bought me a P71 panther body & drove her HARD! Full send over speed bumps in a parking lot to test the "police package" suspension lol. It took it like a champ! Sold her for exactly what I paid for her once I got my settlement.
Dude speaking of Toyota my 99 4Runner is on its last legs I just picked up a 5th Gen TRD OR. My grandpa had two GM's and they were freakin awesome. I've been thinking of getting a project car or just some beater sedan to get on the side. This is now on my watchlist!!
We bought a new one in the late 1990s. It always ran okay, but weird stuff kept happening. First the odometer broke, then the turn signals went haywire-till we tracked down the short-next the radio refused to turn off but what turned me off was when the driver’s window refused to close. Minor stuff I agree but we also found random plastic bits on the floor from time to time. We replaced it with a six-year old (‘96) I-30 which was not only more fun and comfortable, but also very reliable.
I had a 98 Cartier Town Car which made more power than normal panthers and took premium. Loved that car. Im probably going to get another while I still can.
1986-1991 with the Trailer Tow III Package and 351W will run rings around any of the later ones IF you put the right tires on. My 89 was custom ordered that way by me. The 351 was only $185, and the towing package a very cheap $550, both in Canadian dollars. The 1¼ inch front antisway bar really worked, and the 1 inch rear really did the rest of it, preserving the geometry of the trailing arms. Better yet, though, would be to take the Panhard Rod off a 77-79 Thunderbird and put that in. Simpler and more effective than the Watts Linkage.
@@dewarkhodern9990 Yeah, I know that the P71 and P7B fanboys get all confused about municipal service vehicles being some sort of supercar. Then after they cut off the mufflers and stack a throttle spacer on there they still in the 16's at the drags. The best way to enjoy the panther cars is as the big comfortable cruisers that they are.
I still own a 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis and it's funny you say it's third generation because I've had three generations in my family drive that car. My father-in-law bought it new and drove it until he passed away and then I drove it from 2013 to 2018 and my son has been driving it since. We replaced the transmission but otherwise the car is perfect. Needs about a quart every two weeks so not so bad. It's a very comfy car and has that power when you need it
They are also fairly simple to work on with reasonably-priced repair parts. Install a 2 1/4 or 2 1/ 2-inch exhaust you get a nice boost in the seat as far as horse power 😉.
Alternator , water pump , plugs, all done in under an hour once you find your tools. Big part of the appeal to me, you might want to check out the 96 t birds as well same set up except has irs.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss We can say the same thing of the Panther Platform of the very early 1990s and also 1980s. Their reliable as long as you take care of them
After moving to Vegas, I picked up a used Crown Vic. A few weeks later, a friend came up for a festival and we hung out after his flight then I dropped him off at the Casino he was staying at. After he grabbed his bags some dude walked up and tried to get in as I started to drive off. He started yelling at me for "refusing a paying fare" and he wanted to speak with my manager. I told him to get stuffed and leave me alone because it was my personal car. Security guard comes up and asks what the problem is. Dude rants about the "cab driver (me apparently)" refusing a fare. Security guard asks me what the problem is, I told him that I am in my personal car (even has veteran plates on it) and that I just dropped my friend off at the casino and this guy runs up to my car and tries to get in then throws a fit over me telling him to "Get stuffed" and trying to drive off. Security guard looks at my rear bumpers, looks at the other guy and says (while pointing at my plates),"You blind or something? There's no cab registration, no advertisements, and no on duty light. This *IS* his car, and you should call for an actual cab and leave him alone." So yes, if you live in a US tourist trap city and own a Crown Vic or Grand Marquis that is bone stock, people MAY try to get into your car. You have been warned.
2002 and older smear a huge glob of chassis grease on the bump stops to prevent the loud popping sounds in a parking lot with the steering wheel cut as sharp as it can turn- do this at each oil change. watch the engine oil level, these can burn a quart every 1,500 miles or so... do an intake manifold every 10-13 years and a blend door actuator every 10-13 years. OEM only... drop the transmission pan and a new filter and 5 quarts of new transmission fluid every 45,000 miles. reuse the OEM pan gasket. these are easily 500,000 mile cars with no problems....
My '96 T-Bird has the 4.6L. It has 155,000 on it right now. Hope to make 300 without any major issues. I'm probably going to have it opened up in the next year to check on the timing gears and chains and to replace the timing chain guides.
My 97 had the 4.6. Fun fact: Power Improvement intake manifold from the 99-04 Mustang will fit with a few parts swapped (gaskets, coolant valley pipe, etc) wound up swapping that on mine when my stock intake manifold failed. Did some other modifications to the car and it was pretty quick for a heavy car.
My tbirds 4.6 was still running strong at 220,000 miles. I never opened the motor up, just replaced the intake manifold when it failed. Only reason I got rid of the car is the windshield cracked, went to replace it, and saw rust all on the windshield frame. Would have been more expensive to fix then the car was worth (have to weld in new metal for that and its a structural point in the car). The transmission did fail at 160,000, so I put in a fully rebuilt one in. Did it in my driveway which was a PITA but was manageable.
The bad part of the 98-02 is the intake manifold was plastic, so they would handle heat worse than the rest of the block and crack after a while. In 03 it was replaced by a metal unit.
Actually they had the plastic manifolds all the way through their end of life in 2011. The big change in 03-04 was the 'PI' version which made a bit more power. The sad part is ford has stopped making replacement manifolds so the ones that are left have jumped in price... or you have to use a crappy dorman one which fails much more often
It was indeed updated in '03 but only a small part of it was changed to aluminum. They all still crack eventually, just not as quickly as the '02 and older version.
Loved my '88 GM. I put so much love and care into that car. I had just put on new tires, brakes, all new fluids, battery, etc. when I ended up having to quickly sell it to a family member for peanuts because I had to move out of state and wouldn't have parking. Later found out he just let it sit and rot and eventually junked it. He never even moved it from the spot where I had parked it eight years earlier. 😔
You literally underestimate the Mercury Grand Marquis. Especially the GS and LS. The Grand Marquis is actually the "sweet spot " of the Panther Platform vehicles. Plus, you can literally get one with factory chrome-trim add-ons. And Mercury doesn't exist anymore. Keep that in mind.
Camry and Crown Vic (Panthers in general), top of the line in similar ways but… Panthers are rwd, v8’s, body on frame. Nothing a Camry can compete with!
U r a good brother. That is one sweet ride. Keep fluids clean and filters changed, and you, too, will get 500,000 miles or more out of that beast. Keep an eye out on any cracks/leaks on intake manifold. Those things are notorious for wearing out across the front coolant jacket behind alternator. $3,000 in today's market is a bargain. Happy motoring.
Mine (model 2003) has a little bit over 368k kilometers, on the original Engine, still pulling great, traveling an average of 10k to 15k kilometers per year, just the regular mainteinance AND a few mid (i would say) repairs...awesome car
Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Buick make good sedans that was under powered to last. Like all cars if you take care of them they will last longer than expected. But for the money they are a better buy than Toyotas or Hondas.
I prefer the Crown Victoria's, they are ever so slightly more simple plus the styling.. and I love the black interior in the police cars. Plus no carpet.
Hey youngster get yourself a 1960;s Dodge Dart slant six . those were unkillable. overheated to the point when trying to add creek water to the cooling system it spit it back out at you. eventually you could get it to take it when it sat for a little while . Add a few baseball hat full of that water and then you are on your way. No adverse effects it just kept running for years. That same creek water would get you home in the transmission. next day pull the tranny pan new filter new fluid , same thing keep driving it for years. Teenage years were fun.
I count the Ford Aerostar with the 3.0 V6 among one of the best unkillable vehicles ever made, of which I’ve owned several. My 1996 XLT is strangely one of my favorite vehicles ever owned. It is still quite cherry. Not even close to the proliferation of the Panther design, they were prolific and with basic good maintenance one of the most reliable vehicles Ford ever made…
I worked out of a AreoStar cargo van with a Mazda 5 speed manual & 3.0 V6. My cousin bought it new in 1988/1989 for his hardwood flooring sanding and refinishing business here in swfla. Fun van to drive with manual trans.
The ford Aerostar was a 2wd mid or long bed ranger under the body. It shared a similar design to the S-10 based Chevy Astro van which shared their DNA with the Mazda B series trucks
I’d still say the series 2 3800 Buick powered cars with the supercharger were prob the best cars ever made but these cars are also a hard to beat beater
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My Grand Marquis has 467,000 miles and still runs like a clock. GREAT VIDEO!
You give me hope! I'm at 267,000....😅
Hey TFL, the headlight control is not for adjusting according to the darkness outside, it was a timer. The longer the line, the longer the headlights would stay on after you turn off the car. The time would be up to 3 minutes.
Agreed! Not just indestructible, but you will start seeing these at car shows very soon. This summer in fact, as I’m taking my 1993 Lincoln Town Car to the local show in June.
I’ve been taking my 92 TC to car shows since 2016 and back then they were hesitant to even let me in now they take me in with open arms !
@@maxschlotter4596 The response I get around town has been epic. People so quickly forget about what we used to think of as "Normal". I can hardly drive it anywhere without at least one conversation.
What sold me on these cars was seeing 15 year old models in Saudi Arabia going 80 miles an hour in extreme heat and dusty conditions and were poorly maintained but just kept going and going. So I bought a 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis with 87k miles on it and I love it.
I just bought a 1998 128k Grand Marquis beater with a clean title for $1200. AC works, heater core leaks, the seat is ripped, but I absolutely love it. It drives incredible.
I absolutely love my 2011 LS Ultimate Grand Marquis (33,500 original miles). The air ride suspension is so comfortable on long rides. It may look like a grandpa car, but that's OK for this grandpa 🤙. And yeah its true, I'm often mistaken for a police vehicle and have people move over and slow down on the highways for me.
yes renamed "grandpa" car!
They haven't been used in police service in over a decade
@@earlscheib7754 I know, yet even today I had a group of cars slow down on the interstate behind me and refuse to pass... Kinda funny.
@@earlscheib7754 That depends.....some other places still has the Crown Victoria on the police Fleet.
There's a few places that also has the Grand Marquis on the fleet
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I still see in service police vehicles like this to this day in more rural police departments, a lot of them are still being used also as administrative or detective type vehicles, not necessarily pursuit or patrol.
Memories...This was my Dad's last car. He had a very low mileage '98 Grand Marquis LS in wedgewood blue with a stone gray interior. You just floated down the highway in silence, and it really didn't handle badly for such a large cushy vehicle. In hindsight I wish I would have kept it because it was his and it would probably still be floating along today.
When my Mom was told by her doctor that she couldn't drive any more, I bought her 2000 LS from her. It's so effortless to drive! I'm planning to drive it as long as I can. Parts availability and fuel are the only variables I know of at the moment.
It's the only thing I have left of her.
You were smart to keep it! They're wonderful, dependable cars.@@johngregory4801
It's so weird to think that these can be a classic car now
U R OLD!
Yeah I am older then the mullet z/28 😅
If you're in your 30's almost anything from our childhood can be considered classic 😢
Its better qualoty than a lot of the new stuff
They are an old car,,, classic??? 😂😂.
My ‘97 crown vic was honestly the best car I ever owned. I moved my family from Sacramento CA to Dallas TX in that car. We pulled a 6’x12’ enclosed trailer the whole way. Also my family consisted of my wife and I, 4 children, a dog and a cat. The car was an absolute soldier.
Was it falling apart when you got rid of it or just wanted something different?
I'm sitting in a 97 Crown Victoria right now. I do doordash with it and even though I'm on Long Island in New York, it actually has zero rust underneath. this car was very taken care of and needs nothing but regular maintenance to basically last forever if you protect it from rusting. they just need the plastic intake manifold replaced after 100,000 miles and probably catalytic converters. I blocked off the EGR with a piece of soup can 😁 it's old enough that it's a safety only inspection.
Great CANADIAN car when it was made. Assembly line was in St.Thomas Ontario. Southern Canada 🇨🇦
Great buy! I have a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria LX, formerly LAPD detective vehicle. It's got over 150,000 miles on it and still going strong. Long live the Panther platform!
P71?
@@speedracerjeff No, just the regular LX with Handling & Performance Package. Undercover vehicle!
05... The weird antenna year
@@juliogonzo2718 Ha, indeed! And the year with new steering wheel but old no-tach gauge cluster!
I have over a million miles on Crown Vics and Grand Marquis. I've been driving them for over 30 years. I am a recently retired mechanic for a large municipal fleet services department. The Ford Panther cars were by far the most reliable make and model of vehicle I ever worked on. Just keep them maintained and they will run forever. I currently have a 2006 Grand Marquis that I bought with 97,000 miles on it. It now has 287,000 miles, and still runs fine. I recently bought a 2007 Grand Marquis with only 36,000 miles on it in like new condition, to replace the 2006 with when it finally wears out. Yes, I paid $9000 for it, but I consider that a whopper of a bargain. My ex wife paid $35,000 for a new 2022 Hyundai Accent, and it is a terrible car, at least for me. It is very difficult to get in and out of, and is the most uncomfortable car I've ever been in. It's noisy, the seats are hard as a rock, and it feels like it has no suspension. By contrast, the Grand Marquis is smooth, quiet, the seats are super comfortable, the suspension makes it feel like you are floating on a cloud, it's big, easy to get in and out of, has a V8 engine, rear wheel drive, body on frame construction, and a solid rear axle. It's 2.73 rear axle and overdrive allow it to cruise at 65 mph at just above idle. It's built like a tank. No squeaks or rattles. Parts are cheap and plentiful, both new and used, and should be available for a long time to come, considering just how many of these cars were made.
My 1997 Grand Marquis has 255k miles and is my daily driver. I'm the third generation of my family to own it. The car has served my family for 26 years and still runs fantastic. What is so commonly overlooked about these cars is the potential for relatively fantastic fuel economy. The fact that I can achieve 26-27 mpg on the highway is a testament to how fuel efficient the Ford 4.6L engine really was.
It has enough torque to keep the revs extremely low on the highway. Same story with the Corvette getting crazy good mileage on the highway.
My Panther of choice is the Marauder with the 32V 4.6. Friend of mine had a supercharged one. That thing was fast when you wanted and a boat when you wanted to cruise. @5:25... Ford built a longer wheelbase Panther called the Lincoln Town Car "L". That's the one for rear seat legroom.
These cars are almost indestructible, we ran these as cabs in Boston they never died just worse over time amazing cars! I now own now a P71 09' SAP package ex secret service car means loaded for police model, mine is faster than you might think but its really about its durability. I get over 20mpg's always, and by 09' it had 250hp and almost 300ft lbs and tranny is different.
Tranny is the same AODE4 you’ll find across the CV family. The sport models or the handling package came with duals and a crossover pipe ( same exhaust system as the police models) The P71 crown Victoria police package was equipped with the same trans but it had an updated torque converter with a higher stall speed. Increased line pressure and its biggest thing was an enhanced cooling package for the trans. The bump in engine performance is a combination of the freer flowing dual exhaust ( standard CV single pipe and muffler was good for about 190, the sport package with duals bumped it to 210 and some pulley tweaks and front of engine weight reduction got it to about 220 but a single pipe 99 and up wasn’t much over 210). Police models often had a police exclusive chipset to deliver the extra speed and power ( in many cases final versions of the P71 left police service with their police exclusive chipsets intact). The most defining feature on a P71 CVPI will be its cooling system they weren’t built to outrun a suspect, they were built to outlast the suspects car. Police departments couldn’t replace the CVPI fast enough when those charger police packages came out. Now 4 months into 2023 they’re stockpiling chargers as this is the final year for mopar muscle. As of this fall the ford explorer will be the last factory offered police package ( the dodge ram, Chevy Silverado and ford F-150 police trucks are basically the same base model big engine truck you can buy off the lot)
16 sec 1/4 mile is “faster than you might think”…. 😂
@@speedracerjeffmy 09 P71 runs 15.3 15.4 in the 1/4 bone stock
@@roberth912 not bad for bone stock. My 97 Mustang GT 4.6 wasn’t much quicker lol.
@@speedracerjeff lol now I have a Caprice that runs mid to high 13s
These have a few things to look out for. The air shocks in these tend to have the height sensor go bad ( it’s a little arm that’s attached to the axle. It’s supposed to shut the compressor off after it reaches ride height. Age and corrosion can Bork the sensor and it will just max out the rear height. Though it’s easy to replace). Next thing to go bad in these is the shift linkage. The linkage can move out of place which can damage certain gears. They’re easy to tighten up. Next is the brakes, being a ford these things can literally eat brakes. The issue is the rotors are too small for the car though this can be corrected with police car brakes or drilled and slotted rotors which will keep you from warping rotors by having better cooling. The final issues revolve around the power window motors and drilling into the trunk. These cars use cable driven power window motors and the cables to on occasion “ bind up”. This can be a problem if the window is down as you have to disassemble the door to “ force “ it back up, replacing the motor can be a real pain as well. The trunk has a weird shelf in it which has nothing on it, this is where the gas tank is located ( on these cars the tank is placed vertically just ahead of the rear axle. Police units have a fire suppression system there as in a serious enough rear collision the axle can be driven forward hard enough to puncture the tank and cause a spark. ) other things to watch for is bad seem repairs and excessive “ wandering”. Those are indicators of possible serious crash damage ( my 1993 was crashed in Florida early in its life and was repaired rather then totaled. It explains why the front brake calipers groaned when you released the brake, the car needed constant attention to stay straight and the trunk leaked) my second car was a 1999. It didn’t have the issues of the 1st one but it did have a few. The best thing I can say about them is they’re a full frame American barge with a soft suspension and depending on age comfortable seats. The Lincoln town cars and grand marquis are my bet for finding a solid panther car that’s not been hammered to hell or beaten to death by a young kid. Some crown Vic’s are good too but you gotta be sure it wasn’t clobbered or run hard and neglected. The ex cop cars are the ones everyone seems to want, don’t buy one unless you know it’s full history. Cops are some of the worst car beaters out there and since a patrol car ain’t theirs. Alternatively fire chief cars are a good buy as they don’t get used all that much either. Provided you got one that’s not rotted to the core or ridden hard and put away wet they can last. Again my suggestion if you’ve got a Grand Marquis or an ex police crown Vic, buy the Mercury. It was probably only driven once or twice a week and was usually parked off the street or kept in a garage. ( my dad who retired close to 12 or 13 years ago hardly drives anymore. ) the panther is one of the few domestic cars that will go to 300,000 or 400,000 miles provided rot doesn’t take it first
The 03-04 Mercury Marauder is the one I like. Neighbor had one that was a sleeper.
Marauders are slow lol
@@speedracerjeff I wouldn’t consider a 1/4 time of 15.6 and a zero to 60 of under 6.5 seconds “ slow” for a car that tips the scales over 4,000 pounds. The marauder used the 32V SVT cobra engine which had 320 horsepower stock though it did lack the supercharger of the cobra as the roots type blower wouldn’t fit with the hood down. A centrifical supercharger will however fit and can give a nice 50 plus horsepower boost. Sure a marauder will never match a muscle car for brute power but how many muscle cars can comfortably haul a family and still have enough power and creature comforts to be practical?
@@matthewcaughey8898 they were slow 20 years ago and still slow today lol.
I own 2 vehicles that are more comfortable and more luxurious than a Marauder and are also faster… my tune only 2005 Escalade LQ9 6.0 AWD runs high 14s in the 1/4.
And I have a 600hp 2003 E55 AMG Benz that has Airmatic struts, rides comfortably and does low 11s in the 1/4, with warming and massaging leather seats to boot…
But if you like that Taxi cab Ford look then good for you.
98-02 are the best! Upgraded rear suspension but still has the steering box setup. Drives like a true land yacht
I drove a ton of these cars and I liked the 06+ the best personally handling and performance wise. I forget what year they got electronic throttle bodies, I think 03 or 04 but they sucked whatever year the first ones were. There was a bit of a delay between pedal and throttle but the later ones didn't do that. The 06+ did have one slightly annoying thing, it would bog slightly if you threw it around a corner. I don't know if it was some form of traction control or what. Still liked the 06-12 the best
...while retaining the neutral handling of a cop car. My 2000 makes me giggle it's so effortless to go through corners at a good clip...
Without any drama.
I love my 2004 Town Car! I just bought it a month ago with 54,000 miles on it. I had a 2007 Town Car in the past and everything was still in perfect working order when I sold it with 150,000 miles. I’ll be keeping this 2004 for a long time hopefully since I’m currently waiting to trade my 22 RAM Laramie 3500 HO Cummins for a 23 Ford F350 HO platinum dually and want to drive the Town Car regularly unless I’m pulling my 20,000lbs fifth wheel camper
So true!
Awesome ride for what it is!
A true under appreciated is the Mercury Maruder! All black!
The auto lamp in my grandparents town car adjusts the time the lights stay on after you turn the car off
These cars are great and very reliable! The 2003 and up had revised suspension and frames. So these would be a better choice. Anyway, you cant go wrong with the panther plafform!
Revised suspension as in air bags that cost 500 a pop to replace
@@bldontmatter5319 No way. I replaced both of mine with Arnotts for $650.
@@bldontmatter5319 you can buy a kit online that comes with a compressor, 2 air bags, 2 shocks, and the solenoids for $400. The air suspension on panthers has always been relatively inexpensive to fix
@@nickys1008 The height sensor will always go first
@@nickys1008 Ok and my shocks were 1/5 the price for 4. Still INSANELY expensive by comparison
My dad had the exact same car...2000'.. some of my favorite cars!! Thanks Brenden!!! Never thought I'd see this on TFL..
Just bought an 03 last month. You are spot on
In September 2003 my dad took my friend and I to Conan O’Brien’s 10th anniversary special. We were just high school kids. He rented a car and it ended up being a gold grand marquis. The ride was so comfortable and made the trip that much more memorable. He also got pulled over briefly in it by NYPD for taking a right on red. Legal in CT where we’re from, not legal in NYC. Great memories. It looks way smaller now that I daily drive a W140.
Been driving a 2010 ultimate edition for 2 years now. One of my favorite cars I've ever owned. No modern car soaks up highway miles like a panther body. I average 23 mpg with about 70/30 highway/city driving
I love my 99 grand marquis, just finished doing valve cover gaskets, intake manifold and replace the ac compressor, at 183k miles and a few bumps it runs like new, these cars are so easy to work on, I do all the maintenance myself.
Panther platform cars are the best! My dad has had an ‘88 Town Car for over twenty years that he’s the second owner of!
I always liked those rims. The digital dash is a nice bonus.
I would stay away from the digital dash. If it ever failed it would be hard to replace
I've damn near run my 2v 4.6 Mustang out of oil while pushing it to redline. When I did a pi head swap every cylinder still had the factory cross hatching. It's approaching 200k miles on the bottom end now making quite a bit more power than original
Mine once spit out a coil and still drove on the highway and got me home. She now has 162k miles and still runs very well! 😊
Love the modular fords
$3K is a steal for that car...
Great car. But Ford placed the heater core behind the passenger side dashboard ... they will go up at around 150k, they all do and it takes forever to swap, mechanics hate doing it too... On the plus side i was able to get 28-30 on an almost all highway 2 hour drive i used to make once a week. I loved the digital dash and watching the instantaneous mpg. Also the door keypad means you will never need a locksmith... and if you stop to run in the Wawa you can leave the AC on for your pup and not need extra keys. I had a 2000 model and it served me well, only the fuel pump stranded me in 5 yrs.
I was close! lol I guessed Crown Vic when I saw the thumbnail. 🤣
That shape is forever in my conscious 😂
My 03 Grand Marquis which is 200 miles under 100k is mechanically flawless. Best cars ever made hands down
The 2002 and earlier panthers have a better ride quality, the 2003 and up have better handling. To me, the ‘95, ‘96, and ‘97 Town Cars have the cushiest seats. You are spot on about the long engine life being a product of being understressed with low horsepower - do not hot rod the engine!
that Silhouette is Unmistakable! long live the panther platform!🔥
As reliable as Toyotas are, the Crown Vic is still my standard for long term reliability. So many of them had long lives as police cars, and then went on to have a SECOND long life as a taxi. They just keep going. When I bought my first car, I very seriously considered a Crown Vic. They're spacious, they're reliable, and they're cheap. If I find myself in need of a new car at some point, I will once again consider a Crown Vic. They're just cool cars.
Toyotas aren't that reliable!
The Dodge Dart/Plymouth Valiant platform of the 60s and 70s were the true unkillable classics, especially if it has a slant six.
So were the old Ford straight sixes.
I love my panther. daily drive it in Sweden, where gas prices are insane.
Comfort is superb, and i really enjoy driving it every day.
It's a 2000 MGC LS but with single exhaust so "only" 200hp, but it's enough. With "only" 120000 miles it's a fun and comfortable car to drive.
I'd like to have that steering wheel though, i only have cruise control on mine.
The 2000 MGC has the traction control button in the glove box, btw. A yellow button, unlabeled...
I remember the Lincoln town car was such a cruiser. Rolling around in high school in my buddy's dad's car bumping biggie lol. Now it's a classic, damn? I feel my age.
Just Horsepower mentioned?
It's not always about horsepower, it's about Torque
Facts
These grandma cars were so good at being a big American sedan. They would run almost forever.
2011 grand marquis/crown vic/town car are the newest 'cars' you can buy with a bench seat.
Technically the 16 Impala Classic is the very last sedan sold in the US to offer front bucket seats. The Panthers were the penultimate.
interesting, love the bench seats and column shifters. it's the only way to drive
I was involved in a wreck & needed q ride while I was waiting on the insurance payout. Bought me a P71 panther body & drove her HARD! Full send over speed bumps in a parking lot to test the "police package" suspension lol. It took it like a champ! Sold her for exactly what I paid for her once I got my settlement.
You found one! Awesome. I really want a Marauder.
Dude speaking of Toyota my 99 4Runner is on its last legs I just picked up a 5th Gen TRD OR. My grandpa had two GM's and they were freakin awesome. I've been thinking of getting a project car or just some beater sedan to get on the side. This is now on my watchlist!!
We bought a new one in the late 1990s. It always ran okay, but weird stuff kept happening. First the odometer broke, then the turn signals went haywire-till we tracked down the short-next the radio refused to turn off but what turned me off was when the driver’s window refused to close. Minor stuff I agree but we also found random plastic bits on the floor from time to time. We replaced it with a six-year old (‘96) I-30 which was not only more fun and comfortable, but also very reliable.
If you find a nyc taxi crown vic it was special and sat on the town car chassis. It too received 5in longer rear door for rear legroom
I had a 98 Cartier Town Car which made more power than normal panthers and took premium. Loved that car. Im probably going to get another while I still can.
I'v had 2 Grand Marquis thru the years, loved them both. Plenty of power for me
03 and up would have been a MUCH better choice with the improved frame and front suspension.
The 2002 and earlier have a better ride quality. These cars are not corner carvers, but yes the 2093 and up panthers do handle better.
1986-1991 with the Trailer Tow III Package and 351W will run rings around any of the later ones IF you put the right tires on. My 89 was custom ordered that way by me. The 351 was only $185, and the towing package a very cheap $550, both in Canadian dollars. The 1¼ inch front antisway bar really worked, and the 1 inch rear really did the rest of it, preserving the geometry of the trailing arms. Better yet, though, would be to take the Panhard Rod off a 77-79 Thunderbird and put that in. Simpler and more effective than the Watts Linkage.
@@Thomas63r2 People got to realize that these are NOT sports cars 🙄
@@dewarkhodern9990 Yeah, I know that the P71 and P7B fanboys get all confused about municipal service vehicles being some sort of supercar. Then after they cut off the mufflers and stack a throttle spacer on there they still in the 16's at the drags. The best way to enjoy the panther cars is as the big comfortable cruisers that they are.
I still own a 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis and it's funny you say it's third generation because I've had three generations in my family drive that car. My father-in-law bought it new and drove it until he passed away and then I drove it from 2013 to 2018 and my son has been driving it since. We replaced the transmission but otherwise the car is perfect. Needs about a quart every two weeks so not so bad. It's a very comfy car and has that power when you need it
We have a P 71 2004 here in South Africa that we got from Saudi Arabia 160 000km runs great and will be my first car (in several years xD)
It ate the streets of NYC for me for 10 years without a hitch. Only sold it becauseI moved. Have a 2001 Lincoln TC hearse now with 65K
I loved those cars.
They are so comfortable to drive.😍😍
I have a 06 mercury grand marquis and I love it and I never have any problems with it great cars!
There's nothing cooler than a Grand Marquis
Nice review on the super reliable, old Grandpa Marquis! 👍 I've heard about these.
I have a 2009 Crown Vic P71 with 135k miles, amazing daily driver 👍
They are also fairly simple to work on with reasonably-priced repair parts. Install a 2 1/4 or 2 1/ 2-inch exhaust you get a nice boost in the seat as far as horse power
😉.
Alternator , water pump , plugs, all done in under an hour once you find your tools. Big part of the appeal to me, you might want to check out the 96 t birds as well same set up except has irs.
I think these are the best cars ever made!! Great video
All Toyotas are overrated. Ford's panther platform is seriously underrated.
Older toyotas and hondas arent overated. They cost a little extra in the used market but in my expirience its well worth it.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss We can say the same thing of the Panther Platform of the very early 1990s and also 1980s. Their reliable as long as you take care of them
The headlight controls are for how long the lights stay on after you shut it off.
I remember renting these in Florida on family trips when they were new
After moving to Vegas, I picked up a used Crown Vic. A few weeks later, a friend came up for a festival and we hung out after his flight then I dropped him off at the Casino he was staying at. After he grabbed his bags some dude walked up and tried to get in as I started to drive off. He started yelling at me for "refusing a paying fare" and he wanted to speak with my manager. I told him to get stuffed and leave me alone because it was my personal car. Security guard comes up and asks what the problem is. Dude rants about the "cab driver (me apparently)" refusing a fare. Security guard asks me what the problem is, I told him that I am in my personal car (even has veteran plates on it) and that I just dropped my friend off at the casino and this guy runs up to my car and tries to get in then throws a fit over me telling him to "Get stuffed" and trying to drive off.
Security guard looks at my rear bumpers, looks at the other guy and says (while pointing at my plates),"You blind or something? There's no cab registration, no advertisements, and no on duty light. This *IS* his car, and you should call for an actual cab and leave him alone."
So yes, if you live in a US tourist trap city and own a Crown Vic or Grand Marquis that is bone stock, people MAY try to get into your car. You have been warned.
Ford really needs to bring these back the car you buy before you die
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WEDNESDAY EVERYONE...
2002 and older smear a huge glob of chassis grease on the bump stops to prevent the loud popping sounds in a parking lot with the steering wheel cut as sharp as it can turn- do this at each oil change.
watch the engine oil level, these can burn a quart every 1,500 miles or so...
do an intake manifold every 10-13 years and a blend door actuator every 10-13 years. OEM only...
drop the transmission pan and a new filter and 5 quarts of new transmission fluid every 45,000 miles. reuse the OEM pan gasket.
these are easily 500,000 mile cars with no problems....
My '96 T-Bird has the 4.6L. It has 155,000 on it right now. Hope to make 300 without any major issues. I'm probably going to have it opened up in the next year to check on the timing gears and chains and to replace the timing chain guides.
My 97 had the 4.6. Fun fact: Power Improvement intake manifold from the 99-04 Mustang will fit with a few parts swapped (gaskets, coolant valley pipe, etc) wound up swapping that on mine when my stock intake manifold failed. Did some other modifications to the car and it was pretty quick for a heavy car.
With the way the quality of new parts are now, if it runs I'd leave it alone. First rule of machinery is, if it works, don't fuck with it
My tbirds 4.6 was still running strong at 220,000 miles. I never opened the motor up, just replaced the intake manifold when it failed. Only reason I got rid of the car is the windshield cracked, went to replace it, and saw rust all on the windshield frame. Would have been more expensive to fix then the car was worth (have to weld in new metal for that and its a structural point in the car).
The transmission did fail at 160,000, so I put in a fully rebuilt one in. Did it in my driveway which was a PITA but was manageable.
The bad part of the 98-02 is the intake manifold was plastic, so they would handle heat worse than the rest of the block and crack after a while. In 03 it was replaced by a metal unit.
Actually they had the plastic manifolds all the way through their end of life in 2011. The big change in 03-04 was the 'PI' version which made a bit more power. The sad part is ford has stopped making replacement manifolds so the ones that are left have jumped in price... or you have to use a crappy dorman one which fails much more often
It was indeed updated in '03 but only a small part of it was changed to aluminum. They all still crack eventually, just not as quickly as the '02 and older version.
Loved my '88 GM. I put so much love and care into that car. I had just put on new tires, brakes, all new fluids, battery, etc. when I ended up having to quickly sell it to a family member for peanuts because I had to move out of state and wouldn't have parking. Later found out he just let it sit and rot and eventually junked it. He never even moved it from the spot where I had parked it eight years earlier. 😔
Poor car. ☹
Thanks Brendon, classic car/modern classic, compare to early 90s Roadmaster/Caprice line
You literally underestimate the Mercury Grand Marquis. Especially the GS and LS.
The Grand Marquis is actually the "sweet spot " of the Panther Platform vehicles. Plus, you can literally get one with factory chrome-trim add-ons.
And Mercury doesn't exist anymore. Keep that in mind.
I’ve always wanted to own one of these as my first car since my childhood. One day, I’ll be able to own and drive one of these!
You should have got him the LSE version with the floor shifter, bucket seats, handling package and performance rear gears.
Those are quite rare.
Yep those r great cars, 2 days ago I bought a 2000. Now I’m up to 3 panther cars
Camry and Crown Vic (Panthers in general), top of the line in similar ways but…
Panthers are rwd, v8’s, body on frame. Nothing a Camry can compete with!
U r a good brother. That is one sweet ride. Keep fluids clean and filters changed, and you, too, will get 500,000 miles or more out of that beast. Keep an eye out on any cracks/leaks on intake manifold. Those things are notorious for wearing out across the front coolant jacket behind alternator. $3,000 in today's market is a bargain. Happy motoring.
Mine (model 2003) has a little bit over 368k kilometers, on the original Engine, still pulling great, traveling an average of 10k to 15k kilometers per year, just the regular mainteinance AND a few mid (i would say) repairs...awesome car
Okay who else remembers the Mercury Cougar?
You know my buddies mom?
Had a ‘69.
The 90’s one is a pos
Your mom does.
Cool ride😊
Blacking out the car in the thumbnail was pointless, I could immediately tell it was a panther body 😂
Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Buick make good sedans that was under powered to last. Like all cars if you take care of them they will last longer than expected. But for the money they are a better buy than Toyotas or Hondas.
I have the same model & trim level. I love it.
I prefer the Crown Victoria's, they are ever so slightly more simple plus the styling.. and I love the black interior in the police cars. Plus no carpet.
Cool I owned a 2001 Grand Marquis , it was such a reliable and comfortable car .
Hey youngster get yourself a 1960;s Dodge Dart slant six . those were unkillable. overheated to the point when trying to add creek water to the cooling system it spit it back out at you. eventually you could get it to take it when it sat for a little while . Add a few baseball hat full of that water and then you are on your way. No adverse effects it just kept running for years. That same creek water would get you home in the transmission. next day pull the tranny pan new filter new fluid , same thing keep driving it for years. Teenage years were fun.
Great buy, thank you!
92 to 2011, but keep it on the down low. They are the best, and there's a boat load relatively cheap crown vic parts, but they are running out
I count the Ford Aerostar with the 3.0 V6 among one of the best unkillable vehicles ever made, of which I’ve owned several. My 1996 XLT is strangely one of my favorite vehicles ever owned. It is still quite cherry. Not even close to the proliferation of the Panther design, they were prolific and with basic good maintenance one of the most reliable vehicles Ford ever made…
I worked out of a AreoStar cargo van with a Mazda 5 speed manual & 3.0 V6. My cousin bought it new in 1988/1989 for his hardwood flooring sanding and refinishing business here in swfla. Fun van to drive with manual trans.
The ford Aerostar was a 2wd mid or long bed ranger under the body. It shared a similar design to the S-10 based Chevy Astro van which shared their DNA with the Mazda B series trucks
Excuse me the Aerostar shared some DNA with the Mazda as ford owned Mazda around then
Iirc, the back seat in a cop car has more space.
It is a bit "firm", since there's no padding, but you can hose it out!
07 Buick LeSabre with the 3.8! The 4.6 is also a crazy reliable engine. My friend has a f150 with over 300,000
We had 1984 grand marquis in 1996 my wife car from her Aunt that passed away with just 75,000 had the 5.0 v8 what is a great car.
they have a massive issue with the intake manifold tho...cant even find replacement OEM versions anymore
I’d still say the series 2 3800 Buick powered cars with the supercharger were prob the best cars ever made but these cars are also a hard to beat beater
Just bought a MINT 2007 Lincoln TC w/ 93,000 TODAY and drove it 2 Hours from Dealer to HOME...
I was a CADDY/OLDS man....
NOW I'M a BELIEVER!!!!!
I killed my 01. It was well past its expiration date when I bought it. Please take care of it a little
I got to bring my cassette tape with a wire attached, from the seventies, and my daughter attaches her phone to play her play list. Wowza!