I live in the EU and we seem to get so many more cars compared to the US, and if they are not available from the dealer we can always get them trough 'gray' imports (like the US trucks that aren't sold by the dealers). I really don't understand it.
The Prelude design is a home run. It’s absolutely sexy. The Powertrain is promising too, but the important factor is price and availability. Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, and even BMW can’t seem to sell enough sports cars. I have high hopes for the Prelude though.👍
Lets be a big btxh and cry about what people like lol god forbid we get an affordable 2 door ya know what people have been wanting for years yall just cry @aurorajones8481
@@bearclaw5115It’ll be awesome is the Prelude could be the spiritual successor to the affordable CR-Z. Then I think it would be really popular. The problem with sports cars is their slightly expensive price. The Supra and Z are too expensive.
Well Prelude and Civic don't really compete. But could explain why they killed the Accord Coupe. 😡 But ig Accord coupes did kill Preludes back in the day. 😂
@justdashie1132 Yeah but how there's like 30 near me. Everyone made was sold and at a higher price than the 4 doors. So I don't get how the lost money. Especially with the 2 Door 8th and 9th Gen Accords 🤝 everyone of them sold off a lot in less than 6-7 months.
@@TheBasher-_- Switching the factory line from their Sedans causes pauses in production taking away from their better-selling sedans. I prefer coupes either way. Honda couldn't make enough civics to satisfy dealer needs a few months ago.
If the First gen insight, civic hybrid (briefly), and CR-Z had manuals as hybrids…. …The new Prelude can have it too. If it doesn’t have a manual, then Honda is making a mistake.
Those all used the IMA hybrid system, which was much simpler and less efficient and only helped the car get off the line. The current Honda e:HEV hybrid is a two clutch system. Not sure how they'd integrate a manual into that when it allows the 2nd drive motor to drive the front wheels alone. I think this may be where development of the electronic manual shifter comes in.
I would like to see 276hp combined power from engine and electric motors , under 3,300lbs, priced under $50k before insane markups, offer a 6 speed manual as an option, and make some damn steering feel and I will buy one
Where are you getting 10 mpg from? If it weren't a hybrid, it would likely be in the realm of the GTI or Civic Si. Those cars get around 30 mpg in mixed driving. Christ, even a 20 year old V8 powered Corvette gets 20 mpg in mixed driving.
I’m ok with hybrid done right. If done correctly it is better than all the cookie cutter EV’s. The significant increase in price is what is going to suck. This car is already going to be marked up outta my reach any though. 💩 🤷♂️
This Prelude will be a low volume technology demonstrator for the next gen hybrid system which will eventually be incorporated into Honda's current V6 models. It will be sold at a premium due to low volume and I wouldn't be surprised if it's shelved after a few years. Honda will use lessons learned from issues consumers have with this powertrain to incorporate into the next gen Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Passport, which will be built in much larger volumes.
I've got my Thin Mints and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! At 12:19 - Who here would like to see Honda make a "retro" Prelude with a modern hybrid drivetrain, offered with both automatic or manual transmission, an analog gauge cluster, and with simple, easy to use manual switches and knobs? What I don't get is why in 2024 is a simple analog car considered a big ask?
Will it be a Prelude in name only? Every car company regurgitates names but the resulting cars have little to do with the originals. For instance, the Ford Mustang Mach-E. The glass is half empty, not half full.
@davidhunternyc1 Ford still builds and sells the Mustang. The Mach E is a totally different vehicle that is meant to cater to a different demographic. This new Prelude looks like it should still have the same coupe formula but with a more modern power train.
@curtfox91 At 20 years old, it was my first car, and I drove mine pretty hard often, too. That AWS was awesome. I sold it to a buddy of mine for $ 5000 CAD, and I regret doing it ever since.
Honda made the 7th gen civic hybrid with a manual. I had a 2005 and it was a blast to drive with that little bit of extra torque. Plus the 50-60 mpg was always nice.
It really doesn’t. Similar front doesn’t make the whole car look like a Prius. It’s a sporty looking coupe. A 2 door Prius would still have that dorky cheese wedge shape
To make things interesting and to hearken back to the the Mk3 Prelude, I would love to see a four-wheel steering system re-introduced. It was a super popular option on the 1988 model. And getting it to work seamlessly with the rear e-AWD? Piece of cake.
I have the Prius Prime. It shares most things with the Corolla Platform, like the M20 engine and suspension. 100hp over the last Gen, same MPG, and full independent suspension, but performance wise the Prius has famously uncrackable ECUs. Honda Hybrids on the other hand have been cracked and tuned. This thing has the potential.
I think Honda benchmarked 02-06 Honda Accord V6 Coupe. (Prelude Spiritual Successor) That car had a single overhead cam 3.0L V6 with VTEC connected to a 6MT that was reminiscent of the NSX. Very similar proportions and styling, vehicle weight, expected powertrain figures. I’d like to hope Honda can create a lively hybrid powertrain that can comply with 20 years worth of emissions and fuel economy regulations. I’m fine with the car losing top end torque. There’s no need to have 90 mph feel like a comfortable cruising speed.
I'm really looking forward to this release. My hopes are high for Honda to get it right. The previous 1.5 litre turbo engine was a huge letdown over on the civic, despite early enthusiasm. I think the hybrid will be great if the old CR-Z was a sort of "rough draft" of such an implementation (used to drive it quite a bit and enjoyed it).
Last week i took my old Honda to my local dealer (change oil,safety check, & all that good stuff) Pacific Honda Beretania St, Honolulu Talked to the service advisor a little about the S2000, so i asked him about the Prelude, He said it's a 2025 model, & because it's a hybrid, it will be sent to N America (& hopefully that will include Hawaii) let us pray
When can we expect Honda to announce the official power numbers for this new Prelude? Honda said this new Prelude will be a joy to drive, so this cant be only 204 hp. I'm guessing it will be between 225 - 250 hp.
If this is marketed just right it will sell like hotcakes .. We need cheaper coupes, coupes are dying and its sad because not everyone wants an SUV and not everyone wants a Sedan .. We literally only have 3 coupes under $50,000 and thats sad
Presenting a Honda Prelude Concept with Brembo brakes make me think that it's gonna be +280hp but this is confusing because they want to keep the 2.0L NA...
Agreeded. If honda is using all the same stuff as the accord, then it's not a prelude for the future. Honda needs to step up their game for the new sports cars. Sure, they have the civic type R, but it's a 4 sedan. Bring back the coupe and the three door hatch sports cars.
From someone who drives an Acura Hybrid RLX I can tell you all 377 horses are fun to drive. Nothing quite like it zero to 60 under 5 secs with 340 lbs of torque and still get 30 MPG. Yeah its fun and can scar the ....right out of ya if your not careful.
My money is on them giving it an electric turbo like the new 911…they had previously stated that they would be the first to bring that tech to mass production… looks like Porsche beat them to it but that’s my guess
Imo, for this car Honda should completely skip the 1.5t and hybridize the 2.0t. The 1.5 has a bad reputation among many. Regardless of any recent updates to it.
Prelude never got Type R treatment... how the hell is Honda marketing this as supposed performance flagship (I think that's their marketing intention...)? They are repeating the same mistake they made with CR-Z. Only proves that Honda doesn't know what they want, nor what customers want. As much as CR-Z was an interesting car, it was utter failure for good reasons. I think every company is forgetting what "sports" car is in the middle of SUVification era, and Honda is definitely a forerunner in that.
Honda US seems very off lately with lack of availability and dealers not caring much competing with Toyota anymore. The timeline for these is 2026, by that time we will have Celica and MR2.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Preludes as I had a first generation, which unfortunately rotted away to oblivion. I’m not warming to this one, perhaps because preludes were notchback coupes and this one with its lift back design, looks very Toyota Prius-ish. Maybe when I see it in person I might like it more.
Great job on this video, I think you spotted a few very important aspects about this car's development and role in Honda's line up. A showcase for Honda's new technology. Awesome.
I wish they would make a fun hybrid with like 50 miles on pure EV mode and remaining on gas with regen that way the electric motors can give you instant torque to make it fun enough to get a sporty feel while being able to switch over to hybrid mode later on
I loved my 98 Prelude. I also loved my 13 G37x with AWD & 325 hp. Now I love my Mustang Ecoboost, & I doubt the new Prelude hybrid will have more than 220 hp. Give it NSX power & a decent price, & it would be considerable.
Prelude was always a funnel of tech from the NSX that way it could go to the masses. Examples Vtec was developed on the NSX but Vtec was put in the Prelude first so the average person could have. The first car with SH that helped develop Diff technology. Hybrid can be fun if done right
Honda had the 90s: CRX, Civic Si,R, Del Sol Si, Prelude Si, S2000, Accord Coupe V6 MT, Acura Legend Coupe, and NSX... that's 9 exciting models that were built for enthusiasts and beloved by enthusiasts. Honda 2024: Civic Type R and its sister the Integra both the same car and we still had both in the 90s you could round up to 10 cars if you count the integra as a separate model. Thats 9 cars down to 1 left. Pathetic.
I have a 1999 5thgen Honda Prelude with a 5-speed manual shift sitting in my driveway, and I I would trade my Lude for a boring ass automatic EV/hybrid.
There was the crv hybrid build challenge not to long ago, where they basically pushed the limits of hybrid engines, its definitely for racing but that means there capable of doing it
The only thing that concerns me is interior packaging, which granted Honda usually is pretty good about. Since I am fairly confident it's not going to be a hatchback, it's going to need to show me it has a wide-aperture trunk and an easy-access back seat. If so: sale. I don't need peak performance. I just need something that's going to facilitate me sitting in traffic without wanting to off myself.
I wish Honda would built big engines like V8s & V10s fuse there hybrid technology into 1, that why we could have high performance cars and full efficient at the same time
Im thinking curb weight will be around 3,000-3,300 lbs, 2.0T with a hybrid and FWD. All that should put it in the ranks with the Elantra N and Mustang Ecoboost(speed wise). Around 225hp would make sense (250+ would be fun.). 0-60 in around 5 secs. Probably will drive like an Audi TT
My first Honda was a Prelude, then 2 Legend Coupes, then 2 CL-S 6 speeds. I've slowly had to give up coupes, manuals, 6-speeds and Acura. The new Integra doesn't work for me, don't want turbo. I hope Honda brings it with the new Prelude tho I will probably not go back to small coupes now. Also, I enjoy your reactions but I find less enjoyment of your Honda reactions, vs the mighty Toyota and your Camry crush. But I guess I'd agree; for me, Honda will never match the fun of the Acura coupes at those ICE price points but they had the best shifters I ever drove.
I hope Honda keeps making series hybrids rather than going the Toyota route. I have a new hybrid Accord and love the powertrain. The only thing I would prefer is for the engine driven gear ratio to biased 5 mph higher than it is now.
Sans the 11g Accord, the new Civic Hybrid seems very promising in terms of fun, too. More power and torque than the old L15CA, and a great chassis to begin with. Honda knows how to make their cars fun to drive in general, I reckon. I wouldn't be afraid of the Prelude not being fun. The 11g Accord Hybrid I heard handles well in the corners, it's just the lack of power that made it more of a miss than a hit.
If the weight of the new Prelude is relatively low like the CR-Z, they don't need a crazy hybrid powertrain (160-200 hp 1.5L hybrid will be more than enough).
I thought the nice looking Prius(es) were tuned to be "pretty fun" - electric motors have that torque so people should be able to sprint to the next red light just fine.
Mercedes-Benz W206 C300's 48V ISG mild hybrid is really good: 1. hope you get to test drive one on/off screen. 2. Honda can instead do mild hybrid because: A. they will be the only Japanese mild hybrid provider in the U.S. B. They do it like AMG does in F1.
3:06 An HR-V Hybrid would be a huge improvement to a really practical hatchwagon that only gets mediocre gas mileage in its current form. 45mpg+? Bring it on!
11:1013:3815:15 I like you Kirk. You're just a car guy in general, regardless of powertrain. I too hope Honda goes with eAWD at minimum to demonstrate to see just how close they can get to that instant torque curve under a hybrid powertrain setup. Although I don't know if it means .....reintroducing turbocharged. But it's not like we know any other way to get more hp out of a 4 cylinder. My working thought is that Honda could take inspiration from Toyota', where introducing the plug-in design but upping the electric motor and battery just enough to put the performance curve into its own category. Toyota could have done this at anytime, but they just haven't yet since the Prius line isn't synonymous with performance...yet. That can change with Toyota' approach to their Tacoma Hybrid and i-Force MAX.
Maybe Honda is going to drastically tune the power train to be more responsive and performance driven. They've done it before with the K series engines in the mid 2000s different cars with a K were tuned according to their intended purposes. The E Axel sounds good since low weight might not be a priority like the Civic Type R. If its just Front Wheel Drive it will be the same as all the previous Preludes....low weight is important too though.
The new Civic hybrid sounds pretty fun (...for a run-of-the-mill hybrid). Could this be a precursor to the next gen Civic Si (hybrid)? I'm happy to see the industry evolving into fun efficiency!
14:00 Honda's series hybrid system definitely makes for worse fuel economy, but I don't think it's the reason for the responsiveness issue. Toyota's hybrids have the same issue, and it's that the engine just keeps shutting off and the battery will only give you about 40hp instantaneously. You can keep the engine running in a Prius by putting it in B mode, and it makes the throttle response noticeably better.
Looks beautiful! Would be nice if it was the 2.0T, 6spd or 10spd auto + RWD and maybe have the e-Drive on the front; but certainly not likely; has to have more power to carry the name and be fun to drive
HILARIOUS but the 79 Prelude off to the side (AND yea I had a 79 manual) WAS WAY better looking than the proposed return new toy thing-e-me-bobby which is the subject of the video.
I got a Honda CR-V hybrid ad.. how fitting!
Please come to the US... I apready went to my local dealership and asked when preorders start. The rep looked at me like i was crazy 😂
It will be built in Ohio :P
I live in the EU and we seem to get so many more cars compared to the US, and if they are not available from the dealer we can always get them trough 'gray' imports (like the US trucks that aren't sold by the dealers). I really don't understand it.
@@KirkKreifels oh I didn't know! That's awesome! Then they have no choice 😂
@@KirkKreifels I'll go steal one in Marysville if they don't sell it here
@@KirkKreifels There were certain JDM cars made in the us but were only shipped to asia. Like some forms of honda accords
The Prelude design is a home run. It’s absolutely sexy. The Powertrain is promising too, but the important factor is price and availability. Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, and even BMW can’t seem to sell enough sports cars. I have high hopes for the Prelude though.👍
I saw it at the LA Auto show and even though it's very small, I very much liked the design.
The design is awful and it won’t sell because of that sadly
@@MikeForsytheokay Mr I know what the future holds and only my opinion matters
@@porfiriato84I love the design too. And the fact that it’s small makes it even more exciting because cars like the Z have grown too big.
They sell as many sports cars as they make... they choose to make SUVs instead because they're a bigger money maker via options
I'd gladly take a hybrid sports car over a full electric one
If they can reduce weight, EVs produce most power.
@@jackdaniels2905 and then it snows/rains/thunders
@@jackdaniels2905 they also produce the most weight? there's a balance to everything but hybrids need to get better
If anyone can make a FWD car fun, Honda can, Hybrid or not.
Honda and Hyundai now lol
Lets get excited about this diet water! Its zero calory, zero taste... LETS PARRTY! Ive been wanting this all my life. 🤣
Lets be a big btxh and cry about what people like lol god forbid we get an affordable 2 door ya know what people have been wanting for years yall just cry @aurorajones8481
@@aurorajones8481joke’s on you, I like my water with zero taste, in fact I paid a lot of money for a filter to do just that. The prelude looks badass
This car is needed in this economy. Just like the Accord and Civic Hybrids. Not to mention the Prius and Model 3.
CR-Z is a great car. They are super cheap on the used market and tons of fun. Love it.
Maybe I should read the comments before posting mine 😊
Yup! Love mine. Way more fun than the specs suggest.
@@bearclaw5115It’ll be awesome is the Prelude could be the spiritual successor to the affordable CR-Z. Then I think it would be really popular. The problem with sports cars is their slightly expensive price. The Supra and Z are too expensive.
@@bearclaw5115Yeah, they are quite underrated.
Crz are amazing and a bargain to grab at the moment. Amazing on the milage too
I see why they discontinued the civic coupe.
Well Prelude and Civic don't really compete. But could explain why they killed the Accord Coupe. 😡 But ig Accord coupes did kill Preludes back in the day. 😂
Honda, lost money on selling two door coupes.
@justdashie1132 Yeah but how there's like 30 near me. Everyone made was sold and at a higher price than the 4 doors. So I don't get how the lost money. Especially with the 2 Door 8th and 9th Gen Accords 🤝 everyone of them sold off a lot in less than 6-7 months.
@@TheBasher-_- Switching the factory line from their Sedans causes pauses in production taking away from their better-selling sedans. I prefer coupes either way.
Honda couldn't make enough civics to satisfy dealer needs a few months ago.
No, Honda lost money competing their own coupes. Acura’s alike. Hopefully they’ve learned from it
If the First gen insight, civic hybrid (briefly), and CR-Z had manuals as hybrids….
…The new Prelude can have it too. If it doesn’t have a manual, then Honda is making a mistake.
i agree, 100%
Those all used the IMA hybrid system, which was much simpler and less efficient and only helped the car get off the line. The current Honda e:HEV hybrid is a two clutch system. Not sure how they'd integrate a manual into that when it allows the 2nd drive motor to drive the front wheels alone. I think this may be where development of the electronic manual shifter comes in.
I would like to see 276hp combined power from engine and electric motors , under 3,300lbs, priced under $50k before insane markups, offer a 6 speed manual as an option, and make some damn steering feel and I will buy one
FWD or AWD
@@Pkan957AWD please
If they do the 1.5L hybrid + electric rear axle + a manual, Honda, take my money.
Honda used to have Sport Hybrid AWD on Acura RLX, MDX, and NSX. They might used the similar technologies for the prelude
Yep. Torque vector motors for rear!
For those complaining about hybrid. I’m actually a fan of it. who wants to get 10 mpg in this economy.
If you're complaining about the economy, wait until we actually have a downturn.
Where are you getting 10 mpg from? If it weren't a hybrid, it would likely be in the realm of the GTI or Civic Si. Those cars get around 30 mpg in mixed driving. Christ, even a 20 year old V8 powered Corvette gets 20 mpg in mixed driving.
I’m ok with hybrid done right. If done correctly it is better than all the cookie cutter EV’s. The significant increase in price is what is going to suck. This car is already going to be marked up outta my reach any though. 💩 🤷♂️
it would most likely be an inline 4 or 6 if it was combustion, it would still be as cheap as charging your car...
Lol 10 mpg? Bro like come on basically any power train honda makes would get 30ish plus in this car
This Prelude will be a low volume technology demonstrator for the next gen hybrid system which will eventually be incorporated into Honda's current V6 models. It will be sold at a premium due to low volume and I wouldn't be surprised if it's shelved after a few years. Honda will use lessons learned from issues consumers have with this powertrain to incorporate into the next gen Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Passport, which will be built in much larger volumes.
I've got my Thin Mints and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! At 12:19 - Who here would like to see Honda make a "retro" Prelude with a modern hybrid drivetrain, offered with both automatic or manual transmission, an analog gauge cluster, and with simple, easy to use manual switches and knobs? What I don't get is why in 2024 is a simple analog car considered a big ask?
Probably related to costs, it's cheaper to throw a tablet into the cabin.
I had a 91 Prelude SR with the manual and the 2.1 L engine. Loved and missed that car so much! I'm so excited to see this new Prelude.
Will it be a Prelude in name only? Every car company regurgitates names but the resulting cars have little to do with the originals. For instance, the Ford Mustang Mach-E. The glass is half empty, not half full.
@davidhunternyc1 Ford still builds and sells the Mustang. The Mach E is a totally different vehicle that is meant to cater to a different demographic. This new Prelude looks like it should still have the same coupe formula but with a more modern power train.
I had the same model 91 si omg i loved it so much blew my motor was unable to find another force to sell. But man it was damn good
@curtfox91 At 20 years old, it was my first car, and I drove mine pretty hard often, too. That AWS was awesome. I sold it to a buddy of mine for $ 5000 CAD, and I regret doing it ever since.
2.1 engine??? They made a f22 an f23 an h22 and an h23 never had a 2.1 lol...the h22a is the holy grail big block last manual vtec b4 I vtec
Honda made the 7th gen civic hybrid with a manual. I had a 2005 and it was a blast to drive with that little bit of extra torque. Plus the 50-60 mpg was always nice.
Put some power n speed into it, Honda. And you have my money.
It looks like a 2 door Prius.
At least it’s not an SUV
It really doesn’t. Similar front doesn’t make the whole car look like a Prius. It’s a sporty looking coupe. A 2 door Prius would still have that dorky cheese wedge shape
It looks like a Civic coupe, which isn't a good thing.
@@SIIKAP1it’s clearly front toyota, side chevy cavalier, rear fake porsche
@@MikeForsythe reach harder
Never wanted such car so much. Old prelude was such an underdog
I agree with you with the E-AWD but should also have 4WS as they pioneered that in the 90’s. By the way, the white Prelude is gorgeous!!
To make things interesting and to hearken back to the the Mk3 Prelude, I would love to see a four-wheel steering system re-introduced. It was a super popular option on the 1988 model. And getting it to work seamlessly with the rear e-AWD? Piece of cake.
I have the Prius Prime. It shares most things with the Corolla Platform, like the M20 engine and suspension. 100hp over the last Gen, same MPG, and full independent suspension, but performance wise the Prius has famously uncrackable ECUs. Honda Hybrids on the other hand have been cracked and tuned. This thing has the potential.
I think Honda benchmarked 02-06 Honda Accord V6 Coupe. (Prelude Spiritual Successor) That car had a single overhead cam 3.0L V6 with VTEC connected to a 6MT that was reminiscent of the NSX. Very similar proportions and styling, vehicle weight, expected powertrain figures. I’d like to hope Honda can create a lively hybrid powertrain that can comply with 20 years worth of emissions and fuel economy regulations. I’m fine with the car losing top end torque. There’s no need to have 90 mph feel like a comfortable cruising speed.
I'm really looking forward to this release. My hopes are high for Honda to get it right. The previous 1.5 litre turbo engine was a huge letdown over on the civic, despite early enthusiasm. I think the hybrid will be great if the old CR-Z was a sort of "rough draft" of such an implementation (used to drive it quite a bit and enjoyed it).
Last week i took my old Honda to my local dealer (change oil,safety check, & all that good stuff) Pacific Honda Beretania St, Honolulu
Talked to the service advisor a little about the S2000, so i asked him about the Prelude,
He said it's a 2025 model, & because it's a hybrid, it will be sent to N America (& hopefully
that will include Hawaii)
let us pray
I would love to see Honda to get the hybrid chops back.
Stunning looks in white! Sub-6 sec to 60 and I'm sold.
When can we expect Honda to announce the official power numbers for this new Prelude? Honda said this new Prelude will be a joy to drive, so this cant be only 204 hp. I'm guessing it will be between 225 - 250 hp.
If this is marketed just right it will sell like hotcakes ..
We need cheaper coupes, coupes are dying and its sad because not everyone wants an SUV and not everyone wants a Sedan .. We literally only have 3 coupes under $50,000 and thats sad
Oh the fun I had in my former Prelude Sh back in school!!!
They should bring back the Legend in the 1992 body style and sell it as it was then rather than bring back the Prelude. People are ready to go retro.
That's acura full-sized sedan.
@@ii_dynasty i’m only saying if they could bring back one
@ericB3444 Yeah, but that's their Lexus Ls, G90, and S class competitor.
@@ii_dynasty Acura lost its identity when it dropped the legend and the Integra. One is back, but the bigger one is not.
@@ii_dynastyI thought it was more like GS, G80 and E class in terms of price
They dont learn, Toyota is crushing the sports cars, trucks, suvs and the ev. Honda really needs to just do what they do best
Real world economy of my Civic Advance is 58mpg average across every gallon of fuel.
Had mine here in UK since May 2023. Superb car !
Let’s start a petition for Honda to bring the Prelude here 🇺🇸 who’s with me 🙋🏽♂️ . I’ve owned an 85 red 87 blue and a 90 with 4WS red
If the first gen of this prelude has awd with an e-axle I will be buying one
Presenting a Honda Prelude Concept with Brembo brakes make me think that it's gonna be +280hp but this is confusing because they want to keep the 2.0L NA...
I guess it’s like the gr86 where they have brembo but like 220 hp or something
We don’t know they want to keep
it 2.0 with only 200 hp. Why give it those beefy brakes for it to be slow? Let’s hope it’ll be 260+
It's also supposed to be a hybrid so it might have a good bit of power from the electric motor.
Happy owner of 2015 CRZ 6MT
Congrats! Hope you get a lot of government benefits for being the smallest minority
Agreeded. If honda is using all the same stuff as the accord, then it's not a prelude for the future. Honda needs to step up their game for the new sports cars. Sure, they have the civic type R, but it's a 4 sedan. Bring back the coupe and the three door hatch sports cars.
From someone who drives an Acura Hybrid RLX I can tell you all 377 horses are fun to drive. Nothing quite like it zero to 60 under 5 secs with 340 lbs of torque and still get 30 MPG. Yeah its fun and can scar the ....right out of ya if your not careful.
My money is on them giving it an electric turbo like the new 911…they had previously stated that they would be the first to bring that tech to mass production… looks like Porsche beat them to it but that’s my guess
Imo, for this car Honda should completely skip the 1.5t and hybridize the 2.0t. The 1.5 has a bad reputation among many. Regardless of any recent updates to it.
Prelude never got Type R treatment... how the hell is Honda marketing this as supposed performance flagship (I think that's their marketing intention...)? They are repeating the same mistake they made with CR-Z. Only proves that Honda doesn't know what they want, nor what customers want. As much as CR-Z was an interesting car, it was utter failure for good reasons.
I think every company is forgetting what "sports" car is in the middle of SUVification era, and Honda is definitely a forerunner in that.
Their not. The Civic Type-R is remaining their flagship.
This is just supposed to be a fun cheap car like the 86 and Si.
Honda US seems very off lately with lack of availability and dealers not caring much competing with Toyota anymore. The timeline for these is 2026, by that time we will have Celica and MR2.
I have a 2015 crz and it's so much fun. I have no doubt this prelude will be ever sportier.
I really like the 2nd generation Insight, but it went away before I got back into the car market.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Preludes as I had a first generation, which unfortunately rotted away to oblivion. I’m not warming to this one, perhaps because preludes were notchback coupes and this one with its lift back design, looks very Toyota Prius-ish. Maybe when I see it in person I might like it more.
Great job on this video, I think you spotted a few very important aspects about this car's development and role in Honda's line up. A showcase for Honda's new technology. Awesome.
Its hard to get excited for any new release when dealerships are just going to make it up by 20k. Never going to pay make up no matter what it is.
I wish they would make a fun hybrid with like 50 miles on pure EV mode and remaining on gas with regen that way the electric motors can give you instant torque to make it fun enough to get a sporty feel while being able to switch over to hybrid mode later on
I loved my 98 Prelude.
I also loved my 13 G37x with AWD & 325 hp.
Now I love my Mustang Ecoboost, & I doubt the new Prelude hybrid will have more than 220 hp.
Give it NSX power & a decent price, & it would be considerable.
Prelude was always a funnel of tech from the NSX that way it could go to the masses. Examples Vtec was developed on the NSX but Vtec was put in the Prelude first so the average person could have. The first car with SH that helped develop Diff technology. Hybrid can be fun if done right
Looks like a great competitor for the new Prius.
Probably gonna be the next SI version the prelude!
Honda had the 90s: CRX, Civic Si,R, Del Sol Si, Prelude Si, S2000, Accord Coupe V6 MT, Acura Legend Coupe, and NSX... that's 9 exciting models that were built for enthusiasts and beloved by enthusiasts. Honda 2024: Civic Type R and its sister the Integra both the same car and we still had both in the 90s you could round up to 10 cars if you count the integra as a separate model. Thats 9 cars down to 1 left. Pathetic.
And these youtubers refuse to call them out on this. Instead glazing bullshit.
I have a 1999 5thgen Honda Prelude with a 5-speed manual shift sitting in my driveway, and I I would trade my Lude for a boring ass automatic EV/hybrid.
Honda offered a turbo for the crz hybrid I believe, which really helped
There was the crv hybrid build challenge not to long ago, where they basically pushed the limits of hybrid engines, its definitely for racing but that means there capable of doing it
The only thing that concerns me is interior packaging, which granted Honda usually is pretty good about. Since I am fairly confident it's not going to be a hatchback, it's going to need to show me it has a wide-aperture trunk and an easy-access back seat. If so: sale. I don't need peak performance. I just need something that's going to facilitate me sitting in traffic without wanting to off myself.
Prelude SI maybe?
Better be four wheel steering!
I wish Honda would built big engines like V8s & V10s fuse there hybrid technology into 1, that why we could have high performance cars and full efficient at the same time
Im thinking curb weight will be around 3,000-3,300 lbs, 2.0T with a hybrid and FWD. All that should put it in the ranks with the Elantra N and Mustang Ecoboost(speed wise). Around 225hp would make sense (250+ would be fun.). 0-60 in around 5 secs. Probably will drive like an Audi TT
My first Honda was a Prelude, then 2 Legend Coupes, then 2 CL-S 6 speeds. I've slowly had to give up coupes, manuals, 6-speeds and Acura. The new Integra doesn't work for me, don't want turbo. I hope Honda brings it with the new Prelude tho I will probably not go back to small coupes now. Also, I enjoy your reactions but I find less enjoyment of your Honda reactions, vs the mighty Toyota and your Camry crush. But I guess I'd agree; for me, Honda will never match the fun of the Acura coupes at those ICE price points but they had the best shifters I ever drove.
I wish honda made a SI insight back in 2000. A 120hp 1.5 would have made it sell like hotcakes
I hope Honda keeps making series hybrids rather than going the Toyota route. I have a new hybrid Accord and love the powertrain. The only thing I would prefer is for the engine driven gear ratio to biased 5 mph higher than it is now.
Big shout out to my first car. 1987 Honda prelude 380,000 mi before the body fell apart
Sans the 11g Accord, the new Civic Hybrid seems very promising in terms of fun, too. More power and torque than the old L15CA, and a great chassis to begin with. Honda knows how to make their cars fun to drive in general, I reckon. I wouldn't be afraid of the Prelude not being fun. The 11g Accord Hybrid I heard handles well in the corners, it's just the lack of power that made it more of a miss than a hit.
If the weight of the new Prelude is relatively low like the CR-Z, they don't need a crazy hybrid powertrain (160-200 hp 1.5L hybrid will be more than enough).
Bro, you can see by the size of the car it's not going to weigh anywhere close to the CR-Z's weight. 400-500 more easy.
I thought the nice looking Prius(es) were tuned to be "pretty fun" - electric motors have that torque so people should be able to sprint to the next red light just fine.
i tried to get a cr-z with a manual 2 years ago but there were non in my area for months. just one automatic one. ended up with a '13 Si
I have one. Last time I took it out two different guys were asking me about the car.
There is a manual one in my area with almost 300k miles and the seller wants around 10k 😂
Mercedes-Benz W206 C300's 48V ISG mild hybrid is really good: 1. hope you get to test drive one on/off screen. 2. Honda can instead do mild hybrid because: A. they will be the only Japanese mild hybrid provider in the U.S. B. They do it like AMG does in F1.
3:06 An HR-V Hybrid would be a huge improvement to a really practical hatchwagon that only gets mediocre gas mileage in its current form. 45mpg+? Bring it on!
11:10 13:38 15:15 I like you Kirk. You're just a car guy in general, regardless of powertrain. I too hope Honda goes with eAWD at minimum to demonstrate to see just how close they can get to that instant torque curve under a hybrid powertrain setup. Although I don't know if it means .....reintroducing turbocharged. But it's not like we know any other way to get more hp out of a 4 cylinder.
My working thought is that Honda could take inspiration from Toyota', where introducing the plug-in design but upping the electric motor and battery just enough to put the performance curve into its own category. Toyota could have done this at anytime, but they just haven't yet since the Prius line isn't synonymous with performance...yet. That can change with Toyota' approach to their Tacoma Hybrid and i-Force MAX.
Toyota had eawd aka efour in 2003 in their alphard and estima vehicles.
Maybe Honda is going to drastically tune the power train to be more responsive and performance driven. They've done it before with the K series engines in the mid 2000s different cars with a K were tuned according to their intended purposes. The E Axel sounds good since low weight might not be a priority like the Civic Type R. If its just Front Wheel Drive it will be the same as all the previous Preludes....low weight is important too though.
The new Civic hybrid sounds pretty fun (...for a run-of-the-mill hybrid). Could this be a precursor to the next gen Civic Si (hybrid)? I'm happy to see the industry evolving into fun efficiency!
Good looking hybrid. Coupe life. No longer need to get a Porsche. And did I mention it’s a hybrid?
The NSX seems like a Honda hybrid that would be fun to drive.
Late 80s early 90s is the only prelude I will like it appears.
What’s exhilarating is a sports car that doesn’t cost a lot to run. I know Europe will get manual. US will probably not have as many 😒
Grazie honda per questa auto speriamo che arrivi in italia. A un prezzo ragionevole
Damn I was pretty sure it won't be coming to Europe, a surprise but a welcome one
Looks great, hope it's fun to drive, manual option, and liftback
That render 😍
If it drives anything like the cRZ take my money. Very cool.
14:00 Honda's series hybrid system definitely makes for worse fuel economy, but I don't think it's the reason for the responsiveness issue. Toyota's hybrids have the same issue, and it's that the engine just keeps shutting off and the battery will only give you about 40hp instantaneously. You can keep the engine running in a Prius by putting it in B mode, and it makes the throttle response noticeably better.
Looks beautiful! Would be nice if it was the 2.0T, 6spd or 10spd auto + RWD and maybe have the e-Drive on the front; but certainly not likely; has to have more power to carry the name and be fun to drive
HILARIOUS but the 79 Prelude off to the side (AND yea I had a 79 manual) WAS WAY better looking than the proposed return new toy thing-e-me-bobby which is the subject of the video.
I realize its probably a aero-efficiency thing, but its a shame Honda completely abandoned the roadster hard top look of all the previous models.
I hope we get this!
It probably has stronger electric motors. I drive the Honda Civic e:hev hatch right now, and love it (for the price).
Crz was slow.... But handled well. Fun to drive.
Hopefully Honda won’t mess the Prelude up like they did the Integra.
I'm a Honda guy but Toyotas hybrid systems are better, so they need to fix this and add more sportiness and fun like they had 20 or so years ago.
Giving it a manual or a 2.0t hybrid 10 speed with awd would be fantastic
Sounding like manual or CVT.
anyone else own a 5th gen prelude and totally disappointed with the direction they took with this 6th gen? it's a friggin' prius???
Hybrid efficiency with dynamic performance
I wish USDM got a Honda Fit Si. The Jazz Si is such a cool idea to me lol
Looks sick imo 😎
There may be some patents keeping Honda from using the same design ECVT technology that Toyota uses. 🤔