Trump was the greatest president of all time, and the election that he rightfully WON in 2020 was stolen. And here we are today. Ford truck prices are up 25-29% the last 3 years. Ram truck prices are up between 32-37% over the last 3 years, and that’s without Dealer markups…base model regular cab trucks cost now what a luxury truck cost 5 years ago. Doesn’t add up. The average price increase is 1.5% per year. The amount truck prices have gone up in the last 3 years, would normally have taken close to 20 years, going by history. Luxury trucks… that’s another topic I don’t even want to get into. Let’s just say the pussification of men is real. Roll down windows and vinyl seats, that’s a truck!
If you all actually understood all of the workings that go behind gas prices, you would understand Trump did not simply lower them himself. There was a combination of multiple factors that contributed to the low gas prices of that time and it wasn't due to Trump. He just took credit for it.
You can work on the new ones also you just need more than just harbor freight wrenches and you can delete them pretty easy, but yes 7.3s are awesome but they don’t come even remotely close to a 6.7 pulling a trailer
@@king7.3zf6lb7 you can do whatever you want to the 7.3 to improve power but alot of improvements have been made in the transmission that make the difference. I loved my 7.3 but it won't ever have performance of the 6.7
If the price is high or over priced of course bad time. But my F350 6.7 with its 740+ mile range per fill up and roughly 22+ MPG average w/wo trailer half the time. I love it. Can’t live without it, mentally.
@@BruceMyersLBZthat's why I plan on getting a diesel for rv pulling but I also want to use the truck for off road, so I'm trying to figure out which is best
Appreciated your straight forward answer to the question you are 100% correct on the maintenance of a diesel engines a lot of people don't know how much maintenance a diesel engine requires to keep them running smoothly 👍
I'm a professional diesel repair technician of 23 years. I can definitely say a diesel truck will cost you 2x more in maintenance than a gas in overall ownership. Not including replacing injectors, pumps etc! If you're not towing then don't buy it to be more manly. You will regret it.
You are never going to change the minds of a die hard diesel fanatic or gas man, I can only put in my 2 cents. Had a 2003 F350 duley with a old IDI 7.3 with a 5 spd with over 220,000 miles on it with no major component failures other than a alternator. Yes I changed out the POS glow plugs kept up with the coolant ph , did not pull anything over 10,000lbs and yes I was passed going up steep grades, but still getting high teens as a norm. Due to a medical mistake had to give up the 5spd so went to research a new tow rig. Ended up ordering a 2021 F250 due to the problems Ram and GM were having with their engines with their on demand engine fuel management systems. which turned into a 2022 model do to the component shortages. I still wanted the power and torque of the diesel but without the added maintenance down the road which is why I ordered it with the new 7.3 and 4.30 elock in the rear. All the towing capacity I need minus the 10,000 dollar option, just my 2 cents.
You're right- you can't change the minds of people making emotional decisions. Objectivity and math however shows a clear winner in terms of cost to buy, operate and maintain.
Something my FIL told me is to never buy fuel if the ground around the pump is too clean. Dirty ground means a lot of trucks means they go thru fuel more often.
#4 : Its not a matter of need, its a matter of a want I can afford. Although I will admit if fuel cost gets much higher the F350 will get parked more often.
It's really much more simplistic than most people make it out to be. If you're into towing frequently, then by all means, buy a diesel. They have far more torque, and are ideal for towing---this especially includes you trailer-towing crowd. But if all you do is haul loads in the back of your truck (or nothing at all), there's no reason for you to own a diesel--the increased cost of maintenence offsets the mpg gains
So I’ve been primarily a gas driver for my entire life. This main reason I’m looking into getting a diesel is the price of gas trucks. The half tons are almost the same price as diesel trucks On top of that they last longer, hold their value longer, and give you the extra freedom when you need to tow something.
I got the diesel for several reasons. The maintenance is more, but I need it to last longer than what the half tons are doing. Displacement on demand and torque converters spreading at 150,000 miles or sooner scares me. Of course I could have $10,000 worth of problems with the diesel. Hopefully I can be in the truck for 20 years or more.
Diesel is a way to go considering one can EASILY afford it. I own 21 lariat no payments, no I’m not a millionaire just semi truck owner operator without gambling issues and some investment knowledge. You have to use Pittsburgh Power max mileage fuel catalyst to eliminate soot and have maintenance free emission system and you’ll have bulletproof truck
@@matbob7249 so that actually helps? I'm in a '19 Volvo with a boom crane, already had have the dpf and shit changed and probably close to having another one done as well. High idle time just because of the crane but also no apu or anything.
Needed a truck in 2012. Paid 6 grand for a used 99 Cummins Dodge with 190,000 miles on it. Finally put money in it 2 years ago and last year. Now 260,000 miles on it. 5 reasons to keep an old Dodge diesel. 1 Paid for. 2 Don't care if it gets a dent. 3 Tows anything hitched up to it. 4 Uses same amount of fuel empty or towing 10,000 lbs. 5 Goes in snow up to the front bumper.
Diesel has unfortunately become a high maintenance girlfriend... seems fun at first but most people will eventually grow tired of it and realize that it's not worth the effort (or money). Diesel engines are a unique upgrade in the sense that they require so much more effort to maintain, on top of being less reliable due to emissions equipment and 3x the cost in service. No other consumer vehicle suffers from anything like this when going for the top performing engine. I'd love for Ford to sell a supercharger or twin turbo option for the 7.3 gasser.
That's why I bought an 01 7.3l Ford when I got my diesel. If I needed the super heavy towing ability of the 6.7 that would be one thing, but the 7.3 is insanely reliable
@@robperkins2674 diesel costs $1.75 more per gallon where I live. There is no trade off; diesel costs more per mile to drive now. Even when diesel was cheaper you'd have to put 100-300k miles on your truck to get the 8-10 grand back, which doesn't account for the increased service and maintenance costs
@@sly9263 I’ll keep my old good dog thanks never a new diesel truck for me way out of my reach when she dies I’ll think about what’s next but the way that truck runs I won’t have to worry about it for a long time and got a grocery getter so fuck Joe Biden
Hoping to get one soon. My dealer found one sitting in Kentucky, built and waiting for shipping. Someone else ordered it and sounds like he's backing out. Almost the exact 2022 that I built online. ;-)
Good considerations, Im considering letting my diesel go for some of those reasons.. Politics are playing a big part, fuel costs are artificially inflated, they figure if they make it so expensive, they can force you electric.. All done on purpose.. sad state we are in..
I had a 2016 Chevy Colorado 2.8 diesel. I was tired of all the emissions crap on it and the constant regens with the 6000.00 stupid dpf filter. I traded it for a Ford Ranger
Lots of conspiracy theories. There is no conspiracy to get you to switch to electric, just brainless assertions. The truth is that everyone is hitting the road and supply is down because of the war in Ukraine. Capitalism 101: decreased supply and increased demand = price increase. FYI electric vehicle charging prices are also rapidly increasing for similar reasons.
Biden started that as so ashe was elected by closeing XL pipeline and prices started its climb the Trudeau in canada put a carbon tax on 70 percent then after they the fake news media say its the war in Ukraine bullshit leaders that care more for migrants than residents in both countries.
Even with everything listed I would still purchase a diesel over an electric vehicle 💯! Over gas engine most likely but not 100%, I could always put a turbo on a gas V8 and be semi happy.
@@edwinhermanson8842 Fade what? It’s literally going to be law. Very soon the only vehicles that will be sold will be electric. Like within the next 15-20 years. It’s not just a fad, unfortunately.
Great beginning of this video, 👌 Anybody paying commercial prices for diesel engines is insane. Diesel fuel is a by-product of making regular fuel. Too many people have forgotten this...
I bought my 2008 E350 6.0 powerstroke before 2021 That's been deleted and studded and I love it as long as the diesel prices don't go $3 higher than the regular gas so if it's $4.40 a gallon for regular as long as it doesn't go over $7 a gallon it's still cheaper because I'm getting 21 mi per year gallon versus my 13 miles to the gallon.
I have a 2006 Duramax extended cab, with under 90,000 miles and in perfect shape. Seldom use it but from what I learned from you, it must be worth much more than a non diesel. No additives needed other than a little into the fuel.
I find in my area most guys buy a diesel is just to show off for the buddies. I went with a 6.0 gas truck after my 06 dmax gave me tons of issues not engine issues but truck issues but I found unless your towing alot or hauling alot it isn't worth the extra price for diesel. And then on top of that. You have the bs to deal with the emissions stuff which isn't cheap. So the reliability of diesel has gone down hill due to that and it's to the point unless you want to take a chance at deleting the emissions which is against the law and could end up giving you a giant fine it's better to go with gas. Besides if you have a truck it's made to work not haul kids around to soccer practice. Most gas trucks today can pull a heavy load without breaking a sweat. Do you good milage? No but again you bought it to work.
Diesel. Ha. I’ve had my 6.7 since 2014. Aside from changing the seal on the vacuum pump cover, *knocks on wood* I have not had a single issue with the truck motor-wise or much else in 149k miles. I did delete it, though. (It also has the banks ram-air intake, and the diff cover. Good choices.) It has been under a-rod’s care for the last couple of years now basically as well.
I have owned several diesels. Just not worth it. Back when Ford had the 7.3 diesel engine, it was truly bulletproof. In today’s world, the maintenance costs and cost of fuel just are not outweighed by the hassles. The 7.3 Godzilla is a worthy engine for anyone towing heavy.
I had a 2006 Chevy 1 Ton dually that had a big service bed on it that I used for work and also towed a 38 FT toy hauler with that I put 125000 K on no problems with it!! The new ones aren't dependable any more it's something all the time DPF DEF
Everyone says the 7.3 is bullet proof lol but they don't actually have one or if they do they don't use it for work. I've had 3 6.7s all ran over 250k before I got new one and never had to do anything beyond normal maintenance but I do delete which is very easy to do on these.
I love my 2022 6.7 Cummins HO but in hind sight a 6.4 Hemi would have been a smarter decision for me. I agree 100% with everything you said. And I hate the DEF, EGR BS!!
I made the mistake of buying a new gas 6.4 in 2020. Hated everything about it especially fuel costs. That truck drank an obscene about of fuel. Traded it in for another diesel after 6 months and won't make that mistake again.
@@Motleymick Def lasts quite a while unless you're always hooked to a trailer. Go buy you a 6.4 and I promise you'll be looking for a way out almost the day after you buy it. Looks practical on paper, that's why I went that route but in practice, a world apart from that diesel.
I have a 2018 Cummins 6.7 that I just got deleted today. It’s a completely different truck. That DEF, EGR and DPF is pure poison for a Diesel engine. So glad I had it done.
It is my daily driver and I lease a a camper for the family because we don't get out often enough to own one. I like the Push bar, people actually give you room on the road. I like that.
Considering gas and diesel is roughly the same price these days, my deleted 6.7 gets better mileage than most half tons, so fuel prices aren’t a factor
Just paid 5 grand for an 03 6.0. A few dings but the engine is in great shape with 200,000 miles on it. Was a farm truck used by the farmer to get around the farm and check on his crews. Never been more than 50 miles away from the farm since it was bought new.
Never owned a diesel, don't know anything about then pre DEF or not, I always wanted one though. I appreciate the tips an information you give in this video.
I’ve got an 08 F350 with the 6.4. Had the new designed heads, dog delete and egr delete. Bruns like a top. You really need to have a use for it. I’ve got two trailer both in the 16,000 range so the diesel is perfect for towing. When I don’t tow it sits. Plus the drw is a pain to park. One thing you didn’t mention is the cost due to the quantity of oil and cost of filters. I wouldn’t work without one.
Ok man you don’t need to add a fuel additive at every Fill up. And if you get fuel at Costco, 76, Shell, reputable fuel stations you won’t have a problem with that. Adding a fuel additive would be like every 15 to 20,000 miles. I usually add a few additive to my truck on one full tank before I change my fuel filter and I change my fuel filter every 20 to 25,000 miles. And I use a wicks fuel filter that filters down to 2 µm and it has a synthetic media. And with today’s trucks I would highly recommend switching to Amsoil. I have gained 2 miles per gallon from stock just by switching my engine oil transmission oil transfer case oil in front and rear differential oil. If you use a Amsoil signature series you can easily go 15,000 miles between oil changes. Amsoil says you can go 25,000 miles between oil changes but I do 10 to 15,000 miles because I do a lot of Intown driving and heavy pulling. And if you take care of your diesel truck knowing how diesels operate knowing how the emission system works you won’t have any problems with your emission system. With today’s vehicles the way that they’re engineered is around emissions they’re not like the trucks eight years ago and older. The new diesel engines are 100% engineered and designed around emissions. Unlike before they put emissions on engines that were not designed for it that’s where the problem started. Today’s diesel trucks if you take care of them and definitely not putting the cheapest fuel you can find in them they will last you a lot longer than a gas vehicle and give you better fuel Konomi than a gas pick up. I have a 3500 Rear Wheel Dr. pick up diesel and I get on average on a 300 mile trip 3.2 miles per gallon better than a friend of mine with his 1500 pick up. If the same year.
Now that sounds more like it. I have to believe what you are saying makes perfect sense. I’m about to buy a Chevy with the 3.0 and hope that engine will treat us right. So far all reviews say that it’s so. Thanks for your input.
@@hammer-r the 3.0L is so different then the 6.6L. They are good but not as good as the 6.6L I know some about that engine and what I do know is if you want a truck with the 3.0L and you can afford the 2500HD or the 3500HD with the 6.6 I would do that before I would get the 3.0L. And if you do decide to get the HD truck get the 2017 to 2019 L5P engine with 6 speed Allison transmission not the 10 speed.
@@hammer-r with the 3.0L it has a timing belt not a timing gear set which I do not like and it’s on the back of the engine on top of that. And it has a start stop feature which is terrible for diesel trucks and the emissions systems. Manufactures say that is not true their design to turn on and off constantly to save fuel but I got Proof that is not correct. Along with a bunch of other things that I’m not a fan of. But it is better then the gas engines and Ford and dodge smaller diesel engines.
@@Jc-bo1uu yea not a fan of stop start for a diesel. In fact you need to run idle an engine after a drive to cool down the oil and the turbo. Stop start does no good for the turbo.
Excellent comments on the negative points of owning a diesel. I was hoping the EPA would come to their senses and weight the good against the bad, but with the present way of thinking "climate change" regarding everything, it's not going to happen!
It was hard passing on the 6.7 when I ordered my 2022 F-250, but I had a lot of the same thoughts on why TO and NOT to buy. For me, looking out long-term with maintenance vs. initial buy-in, it just made more sense to go with the 7.3 gas engine. Also, with Ford production the way it is right now…I wasn’t willing to potentially wait 8 months to a year for the 6.7. MPGs might not be up there with the Powerstroke (getting 15-16 avg), but I love the power and torque I’m getting out of the 7.3 Godzilla! Both are great options though! Great video, as always!
The 7.3 makes 475 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 rpm. The big three diesels make between 910 and 1075 at somewhere between 1600 and 1750 rpm. All the diesels put out equal or greater horsepower than the 7.3's 430 HP in spite of spinning far less rpm. THIS is why to buy a diesel to tow/haul heavy loads, especially if you "love power and torque".
@@HalfCrazy520 I do appreciate the information, but the point is I don’t NEED a diesel. I might want one, and I might like it better than the 7.3…but it’s not a necessity. For the everyday stuff that I do 90% of the time, the power and torque of the 7.3 is more than sufficient. Remember it wasn’t long ago that diesels had less horsepower and about the same torque as my 7.3 and they did work just fine. As for the high RPMs, the motor is built to operate in that range and I’m okay with that thing singing at higher RPMs!
@@beardedautomedia2261 Sounds like justifying why you settled for the gasser.... You "love the power and torque" because it's "sufficuent"? If you don't NEED a diesel then there's no reason to buy one and there's no need to justify that decision to anyone.
As a die hard diesel fan... I agree with all points. I was at a ford dealer the other day: Pretty base F450 MSRP $84,000 + ADM (adjusted dealer markup) $15,000. Raptor, + ADM $29,950 on top of sticker... WILD. I'll continue loving on my L5P dirtymax lol
Been driving the 2017 GMC 3500 Denali, Dirtymax L5P/Allison for several months now. It's quiet, it's fast as stink considering it weighs 8850 lbs as driven, and it gets great fuel mileage for a heavy duty truck. A hundred grand for a new truck? Oh, hell no.
Thanks for buying a ford. I was wanting to buy a 2023 diesel but we truly have not been making many lately. Makes me wonder if the government is trying to force us to not build any, anymore. They don’t tell us anything but I’d say they’re gonna be expensive af this year.
A couple or few years ago I went hunting for a diesel truck and found a really nice Dodge Ram 2500 with the last of the 5.9 Cummins diesel engine . It the early 2007 . I'm the 3rd owner and it had 135,000 miles on it . I've been a mechanic all my life and have worked on and driven big rigs and trucks . Anyway , I knew what to look for and at when buying a truck . It's been a 5th wheel camper hauler all it's life for rich people until I bought it and it's spotless ! Damn thing looks and drives like new ! I got lucky as I almost gave up looking for my truck . It's the Mega Cab which I like in several ways except it has the turning radius of a dang School bus . But I love my 07 Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab 5.9 Cummins diesel truck with extra air bags for more weight . I bought it because the great condition it's in and got a heck of a deal on it plus it will last me till I die , so it's the last vehicle I'll ever buy . If you take care of your truck , it'll take care of you . A Cummins diesel engine will last me a million miles before it's time to rebuild it . It pulls my trailers great and does what I need , so I'm happy . By the way , Cummins is owned by Caterpillar , but they keep the two names and companies separate as both are known and used around the world . So for marketing reasons the kept the 2 names .
Same situation for me , 2007 ram mega cab but i have the 6.7 . I'm the 3rd owner and bought it from a diesel mechanic. Spotless and perfectly maintained. Should be my last truck purchase!
@@ericliebmann1087 Congratulations Eric . Please let me know how your engine holds up . Also if I may ask , what mileage does your truck have and if you have to do any repairs to your truck ? If I'm not mistaken , your truck requires DEF or am I mistaken ? As my truck with the 5.9 doesn't require the DEF .
Veteran here ,DEF is for civilian use , the military trucks dont have it ,why ? The government knows it's not dependable and you dont want your tanks in limp mode on a battlefield
true its for the people that depend on them for work and transportation let them pay for DEF and obscene fuel prices and big repair bills right just so it can regen and come out the tail pipe anyway
I have a 2012 that I considered trading along with my F150 for a 22 Platinum F350. No more massaging seats though, which is the reason for a Platinum. Going to stick with my 2012 and make the short bed work for us instead. It's deleted and disaster prevention kitted. Rebuilding the front end to eliminate DW, and pulling the bed to repair the rust. No DEF, no DPF, Runs great, just getting rust underneath.
I just wanted to know your reasons. Our oldest son has a 2002 F-350 CC 4X4 dually with the 7.3L Power Stroke. He’s added a performance chip plus it’s straight piped. He loves his work truck, it’s a towing beast. But like you said price per gallon, you’ll need a 55 gallon barrel full of $100.00 bills just to fill up. You’re talking about new truck prices & dealerships markups, I’d walk away & not be foolish
I had the same 2002 F250 with 7.3 & the perf chip. it was so awesome! I had to sell it due to overseas tour. But right now honestly I know I could not afford that fill up. Good video. thx!
@yk2sunshine I'm about to buy a 00 250 7.3 diesel 6 speed manual, tuned, with a flatbed. I deff found a needle in a haystack condition truck but with only 1k miles on engine and trans I can't afford to say no.
I just removed my sled deck and swapped back to the factory wheels on my 2020 Ram 3500 Cummins because it’s leaving soon. My 7.3L gas F-350 was built at the beginning of May and should arrive here June 9th.
I have both and the diesel is cheaper to run in the long run gas 8mpg diesel 18mpg. Better resale I see the old diesel trucks selling for more than they costs brand new
Love my 2000 f250 7.3 235,000 trouble free miles, only needed a alternator and a water pump, I let mine idle 5 to 10 minutes to cool down also, after towing my trailer home up hill,
I guess it depends on what your pulling unless your pulling 15,000-40,000lbs no need to go to a diesel. I got a 80gal tank in a v10 motorhome probably weighs 20,000lbs and haven't had any problems going up mountains roads driving across the country. It would cost me at least $100 more to fill my tank if I had a diesel. That adds up if your going cross country.
Got a 6.2L 350 after a decade using a tent, then buying a trailer. I see lots of diesel trucks pulling 10k or less trailers. Most of them don't look used for much else (like me). We mostly tow the trailer for camping 1-5hr trips. A bunch of neighbors have the same or smaller rig and a diesel truck they drive to the office or leave in the driveway. Some pull 10k rigs with eco 150's which I think is risky down hills, but doable. Stepping up to 250/350 gas seems the best choice for folks like us. But if I were out west and driving up those longer/steeper hills, I'd go with a 7.3 gas or a diesel. Hoping the e-trucks get that range and charge time addressed by the time I'm ready for my next one.
In the heartland of the US, gas is currently at or even under $3/gal. but the cheapest diesel fuel is over $4.50, a diesel/gasoline price ratio that is far higher than it has ever been. Even on the west coast, where gas prices are above $4/gal., the diesel/gas ratio is so high that a gas HD pickup costs less per mile than its diesel counterpart, even when towing. There are several underlying factors pushing this (none of which show any sign of abating anytime soon, and may even get worse). The biggest factor is simply supply and demand. US refineries are producing nearly the maximum fuel oil/gasoline ratio possible (max #2 fuel oil component is ~40%) from crude oil. Demand for diesel fuel is inelastic because the entire agricultural & transportation infrastructure runs on fuel oil (even jet aircraft, which run on kerosene, aka #1 fuel oil). Battery electric vehicles are starting to replace gas-powered cars, but they aren't going to replace many heavy trucks any time soon. And the disruption of natural gas supply in Europe will likely cause to more heating oil to be consumed in Europe this winter.
I switched from a Ram 6.4 hemi to a Cummins. No more high rpm pulling a tiny trailer lol. Gassers have emissions bs also and when that lifter or camshaft goes good luck getting a new motor this year!
Just stumbled across your page and love the truck brother. You should do a video for us newbies. I’m interested in owning a diesel but don’t know much about them at all. Maintaining, the little tips and tricks, adding the additive when you fuel them, etc. I think that’s something that would be very beneficial for newbies like me. Just a suggestion.
If you look back I’m sure he’s done a few videos on different topics that you mentioned. I’m not sure what they’re titled but should be anything with the F350 in them. They’re probably a bit more spread out that way but it’ll give you an excuse to binge a little. But your suggestion is definitely a good one though. Have all the basics wrapped up in one video.
These days there is no reason for regular people to buy diesel. When diesel and 87 were the same price it made sense, but now gas here is 2.67 and diesel is 4.49 so there is certainly no savings and it actually costs more to drive a diesel than a gasser.
I finally got My 22 Superduty with a 7.3 Gas engine for a lot if the reasons you brought up in the Video Yes I owned a 6.7 Superduty before and I do miss the power ..... I dont miss the maintenance costs etc.... I did Delete and tune that truck myself and had no more check engine lights or problems
Right I’ve owned several diesels a few new ones and I traded in my 2018 duramax for a 2020 3500 dually with the 6.6 gasser from GM it tows my 17k 5th wheel Reese goose box upgrade just fine and I tow a gooseneck trailer that averages between 15-18k occasionally for side work. I do miss the power from a diesel but do I need it no this gasser handles the weight just fine and with basically no maintenance cost.
Yeah I'm with you dude if I needed a full sized truck to tow shit with I'd get a f250 With that same godzilla motor preferably a tremor trim Old school big block no turbos no superchargers no fancy computers does the old school gasoline gas guzzling big block It will use a lot of gas but it will outlast the diesels for sure
I assume this mean only the larger trucks with larger diesels, not smaller diesels like the Duramax. As far as fuel prices, they go up and down. If you plan on holding onto it as a useful vehicle, you'll end up paying less than now.
“Nothing like an old diesel” Fixed that for you. These newer diesels even deleted and straight pipe just don’t have the same bald Eagles that they use too. The 5.9 Cummins and 6.0 Powerstroke were prime diesels. Even at idle they just sound badass not to mention straight piped nothing touches them. these new diesels stock are as quiet as my gas saver 99 honda civic
I know for myself, I would not at all ever buy the new diesel trucks. Over the years I've owned Cummins, Powerstrokes, and the Duramax. I've owned them during years when the engines were terrific. Now because of the EPA, as we all know, the engines are so choked down, complex, and vastly more expensive to maintain, not to mention the cost of the diesel option over the gas, and all of this regarding the diesel is only getting worse. All the trailers that I've pulled and are pulling the gas trucks can do as well, with alot less headaches and breaking my wallet. I spent many years as a crude oil trucking supervisor and saw first hand the damage the EPA restrictions have caused on the big diesels and it is only getting worse. So for me it is just no longer worth it to go through the headaches, I'll simply enjoy my gas engine and still get the job done.
@@kuyaali956 agreed, I bought a 05 gmc sierra, hd2500, slt, 4 door, long bed 2 years ago for 7,500. It had EVERYTHING wrong with it that I didn't know about. Even though I did every test I knew about, to establish blown head gasket ect. Dumped about 30k into it. Now I have a 700hp LLY Duramax with 210,000 ish miles on it. It's the absolute balls. I realize that I took a beating on the whole thing though. Either way... if the frame is good, rods are good, pistons are good. Some funds... will give you a phenomenal OLD TRUCK. Rolling coal and all that haha.
@@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083 I almost bought an older one for 15k, luckily I had a die hard diesel fan with me to check it out. He was able to tell from start up that it was going to be a bad buy. He found so many hidden things the seller tried to cover up. Me? It sounded like a diesel so it sounded fine to me LOL I ended up just getting a 2021. I can deal with the emissions. Wish I didn't. But didn't want to put whole bunch of money into something that may not of been worth it. Glad yours did though.
@@kuyaali956 if you go to my channel I have a brief video showing all I did to mine. I left out a few important details in the video but if you watch the video... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what I did. I copied "Truck Master" basically lol. Minus the traction bars, big lift(only kryptonite stage 3 leveling kit and full kryptonite ultimate front end package) and not bigger turbo but my lly has a 63.5 already from the factory so... I did 30 over injectors. My hot tune is +200 hp. I'll share the link here. If it doesn't work you can find it easily. It's my channel name and video titled "modified my duramax(or truck) a 🤏)
Well, it's a good thing I have a 2006 Dodge 5.9 Cummins 3/4 Ton Long Bed that requires no def, has no EGR, requires no Smog Tests and runs like a CHAMP!!! I average around 10.8-11.3 MPG Towing the 5th Wheel Toy Hauler loaded with the Rzr Turbo S & all the goodies and I wouldn't trade it for a brand new one. I keep it well maintained & it still looks sharp as a tack IMHO. I've had it so long it feels like a part of my existence lol
Diesel use to be cheaper then gas since diesel was a byproduct of gas. I have a 2002 F250 with a 5.4 gas engine. The truck is paid for and I fixed many things from replacing the engine replacing the transmission along with other repairs. The body has been fixed so I have around 17k in it. I can definitely tell it works my truck when I'm pulling my 32' trailer.
Just got my f-250 last week,, ordered in March,, was hoping it would take 6 months to get and allow the fuel prices to go down,,, but it showed up only 8 minutes weeks after ordering. Lol, I did get $7,800 off of sticker ($3,000 was ford rebate) so you don’t have to pay sticker, just takes finding the right dealer.
I didn’t get a new diesel when I was looking for a new (I got a gas) on because of DEF, that stuff sucks, if I do get a diesel I’m getting a 2006 or older.
I have both a 3/4 ton gas and a 3/4 ton diesel, they both have a 32 gal tank. Without pulling a trailer I get 350 miles to a tank in the gas truck and 650 miles to a tank in the diesel. When pulling my trailer I get around 200 miles to a tank of gas and over 330 miles to a tank of diesel. While pulling my trailer the gas truck runs 4th-5th gear (of 6) the diesel uses all 6 gears with no problems. As far as the maintenance, the cost balances itself out to still be in the positive for the diesel, I will never buy another gas truck again or even a gas car for that matter it's diesel only for me.
Exactly. I’ve got a poor man’s diesel (‘17 Titan XD Cummins) and I get 18-19mpg combined and about 20-21mpg on the highway. If I’m on a country road doing 55 I get 25-26mpg. My old gasser never saw anything close to that.
Number 6: I don't give a fuck I always will drive a diesel I don't care about how much diesel is because I got money. I always keep up in maintenance on my diesel trucks. But I would like if sleepy joe can lower the gas and diesel prices down and also go to sleep and never ever wake up again.
Look besides a couple small boats and light camper, I don’t need my 350 and I probably wouldn’t have it- but Id never get rid of it for one reason alone, I feel so much joy passing by a storming liberal with a mask on in there car going 10 under the speed limit .
Regular gas currently in SW Ohio is $3.75 a gallon, Diesel is $5.50 per gallon FYI , wow I haven’t really paid attention lately that’s crazy I’m glad I own a gas truck,
I was thinking about getting a diesel as a daily driver, currently have a 2016 Nissan frontier, 17mpg, the dealership I work at has a 2011 dodge 2500 lariat for 30k, in debate
Lazy eye
Your comment=Lazy brain
Is that your moms nickname?
I can really go for a mean tweet and a dollar gas right now
Me too
Trump was the greatest president of all time, and the election that he rightfully WON in 2020 was stolen. And here we are today. Ford truck prices are up 25-29% the last 3 years. Ram truck prices are up between 32-37% over the last 3 years, and that’s without Dealer markups…base model regular cab trucks cost now what a luxury truck cost 5 years ago. Doesn’t add up. The average price increase is 1.5% per year. The amount truck prices have gone up in the last 3 years, would normally have taken close to 20 years, going by history. Luxury trucks… that’s another topic I don’t even want to get into. Let’s just say the pussification of men is real. Roll down windows and vinyl seats, that’s a truck!
If you all actually understood all of the workings that go behind gas prices, you would understand Trump did not simply lower them himself. There was a combination of multiple factors that contributed to the low gas prices of that time and it wasn't due to Trump. He just took credit for it.
@@religionlol7323you sound gay
My 99 7.3 runs perfect, I can work on it and no emissions BS. I don't need a race truck, just reliable ability to move whatever I need to.
You can work on the new ones also you just need more than just harbor freight wrenches and you can delete them pretty easy, but yes 7.3s are awesome but they don’t come even remotely close to a 6.7 pulling a trailer
Doesn’t take much to get a 7.3 into the realm of towing heavy stuff like the 6.7s do.
@@robertl9065 false
Not false, 2k in aftermarket engine upgrade and you have power of a 1st gen 6.7 no issues. And be simple and reliable
@@king7.3zf6lb7 you can do whatever you want to the 7.3 to improve power but alot of improvements have been made in the transmission that make the difference. I loved my 7.3 but it won't ever have performance of the 6.7
If the price is high or over priced of course bad time. But my F350 6.7 with its 740+ mile range per fill up and roughly 22+ MPG average w/wo trailer half the time. I love it. Can’t live without it, mentally.
I agree with your comments. The only reason why I keep my diesel is because it's paid for and not a daily driver. 👍
Same same, rv and gooseneck puller when needed.
@@BruceMyersLBZthat's why I plan on getting a diesel for rv pulling but I also want to use the truck for off road, so I'm trying to figure out which is best
That’s probably why your truck has a shit load of problems
@@ThatLow_Slow5.3 My truck has zero problems. 12 years running strong.
Appreciated your straight forward answer to the question you are 100% correct on the maintenance of a diesel engines a lot of people don't know how much maintenance a diesel engine requires to keep them running smoothly 👍
Agree with every point. I have a 2021 F550 service truck and opted to order with the 7.3 gas. No regrets.
I'm a professional diesel repair technician of 23 years. I can definitely say a diesel truck will cost you 2x more in maintenance than a gas in overall ownership. Not including replacing injectors, pumps etc! If you're not towing then don't buy it to be more manly. You will regret it.
I have zero regrets, but continue to tell people how to live
No regrets here either…. Family of diesel mechanics as well so yeah there’s that.
Can't understand why anybody would want a diese truck unless they tow alot lt cost way more to fuel it hell even a cheap oil change is 100 bucks !!
A diesel truck is a man's truck. You drive what you want and we'll do the same.
You know he’s right!
You are never going to change the minds of a die hard diesel fanatic or gas man, I can only put in my 2 cents. Had a 2003 F350 duley with a old IDI 7.3 with a 5 spd with over 220,000 miles on it with no major component failures other than a alternator. Yes I changed out the POS glow plugs kept up with the coolant ph , did not pull anything over 10,000lbs and yes I was passed going up steep grades, but still getting high teens as a norm. Due to a medical mistake had to give up the 5spd so went to research a new tow rig. Ended up ordering a 2021 F250 due to the problems Ram and GM were having with their engines with their on demand engine fuel management systems. which turned into a 2022 model do to the component shortages. I still wanted the power and torque of the diesel but without the added maintenance down the road which is why I ordered it with the new 7.3 and 4.30 elock in the rear. All the towing capacity I need minus the 10,000 dollar option, just my 2 cents.
And no exhaust fluid
You're right- you can't change the minds of people making emotional decisions. Objectivity and math however shows a clear winner in terms of cost to buy, operate and maintain.
Only one problem the 7.3. I.d.i production was stopped in 1994 after that it was 7.3. Direct injection power stroke
@@sly9263
It’s easier to fool someone than convince them that they’ve been fooled. Once people make up their minds, that’s usually it.
Something my FIL told me is to never buy fuel if the ground around the pump is too clean. Dirty ground means a lot of trucks means they go thru fuel more often.
is something wrong with the pumps?? Why they leaking? Like going to the bathroom the damn urinals are wet all around cuz the dicks can't aim right?
#4 : Its not a matter of need, its a matter of a want I can afford. Although I will admit if fuel cost gets much higher the F350 will get parked more often.
If you need a diesel you can afford one. One would not buy a new one. Plenty of used ones that work well.
It's really much more simplistic than most people make it out to be. If you're into towing frequently, then by all means, buy a diesel. They have far more torque, and are ideal for towing---this especially includes you trailer-towing crowd. But if all you do is haul loads in the back of your truck (or nothing at all), there's no reason for you to own a diesel--the increased cost of maintenence offsets the mpg gains
So I’ve been primarily a gas driver for my entire life. This main reason I’m looking into getting a diesel is the price of gas trucks. The half tons are almost the same price as diesel trucks On top of that they last longer, hold their value longer, and give you the extra freedom when you need to tow something.
I love my diesel but still daily my gasser
I got the diesel for several reasons. The maintenance is more, but I need it to last longer than what the half tons are doing. Displacement on demand and torque converters spreading at 150,000 miles or sooner scares me. Of course I could have $10,000 worth of problems with the diesel. Hopefully I can be in the truck for 20 years or more.
Diesel is a way to go considering one can EASILY afford it. I own 21 lariat no payments, no I’m not a millionaire just semi truck owner operator without gambling issues and some investment knowledge. You have to use Pittsburgh Power max mileage fuel catalyst to eliminate soot and have maintenance free emission system and you’ll have bulletproof truck
They stink
@@matbob7249 so that actually helps? I'm in a '19 Volvo with a boom crane, already had have the dpf and shit changed and probably close to having another one done as well. High idle time just because of the crane but also no apu or anything.
Needed a truck in 2012. Paid 6 grand for a used 99 Cummins Dodge with 190,000 miles on it. Finally put money in it 2 years ago and last year. Now 260,000 miles on it.
5 reasons to keep an old Dodge diesel.
1 Paid for.
2 Don't care if it gets a dent.
3 Tows anything hitched up to it.
4 Uses same amount of fuel empty or towing 10,000 lbs.
5 Goes in snow up to the front bumper.
6 it’s probably worth about 20k in today’s economy so you made money on it
Damn 6 plus dollars a gallon,, I got nauseous yesterday filling my truck up here in Houston and it was $4.34 a gallon....
Worst I saw was 7 unreal
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA At $7 a gallon I'd park the truck..
I have options thank God..
Diesel has unfortunately become a high maintenance girlfriend... seems fun at first but most people will eventually grow tired of it and realize that it's not worth the effort (or money). Diesel engines are a unique upgrade in the sense that they require so much more effort to maintain, on top of being less reliable due to emissions equipment and 3x the cost in service. No other consumer vehicle suffers from anything like this when going for the top performing engine. I'd love for Ford to sell a supercharger or twin turbo option for the 7.3 gasser.
That's why I bought an 01 7.3l Ford when I got my diesel. If I needed the super heavy towing ability of the 6.7 that would be one thing, but the 7.3 is insanely reliable
Yeah they started making the diesel in the 1800’s they haven’t got tired of them yet so.... lol
Gassers spend your money at the pump just a trade off
@@robperkins2674 diesel costs $1.75 more per gallon where I live. There is no trade off; diesel costs more per mile to drive now. Even when diesel was cheaper you'd have to put 100-300k miles on your truck to get the 8-10 grand back, which doesn't account for the increased service and maintenance costs
@@sly9263 I’ll keep my old good dog thanks never a new diesel truck for me way out of my reach when she dies I’ll think about what’s next but the way that truck runs I won’t have to worry about it for a long time and got a grocery getter so fuck Joe Biden
I bought a 2022 F350 Lariat Tremor and have zero regrets! I love it!
Hoping to get one soon. My dealer found one sitting in Kentucky, built and waiting for shipping. Someone else ordered it and sounds like he's backing out. Almost the exact 2022 that I built online. ;-)
Good considerations, Im considering letting my diesel go for some of those reasons.. Politics are playing a big part, fuel costs are artificially inflated, they figure if they make it so expensive, they can force you electric.. All done on purpose.. sad state we are in..
I had a 2016 Chevy Colorado 2.8 diesel. I was tired of all the emissions crap on it and the constant regens with the 6000.00 stupid dpf filter. I traded it for a Ford Ranger
meh. my 7.3 will run in used motor oil. plus I can drive 115,000 miles with buying diesel at the price of an ev
Artificially inflated it's thanks to a 70 percent carbon tax that stupid Trudeau put on fuel.
Lots of conspiracy theories. There is no conspiracy to get you to switch to electric, just brainless assertions. The truth is that everyone is hitting the road and supply is down because of the war in Ukraine. Capitalism 101: decreased supply and increased demand = price increase. FYI electric vehicle charging prices are also rapidly increasing for similar reasons.
Biden started that as so ashe was elected by closeing XL pipeline and prices started its climb the Trudeau in canada put a carbon tax on 70 percent then after they the fake news media say its the war in Ukraine bullshit leaders that care more for migrants than residents in both countries.
Even with everything listed I would still purchase a diesel over an electric vehicle 💯! Over gas engine most likely but not 100%, I could always put a turbo on a gas V8 and be semi happy.
Electric sucks and will fade
@@edwinhermanson8842
Fade what? It’s literally going to be law. Very soon the only vehicles that will be sold will be electric. Like within the next 15-20 years. It’s not just a fad, unfortunately.
3.0l Duramax diesel ⛽️ has been getting me 29mpg 😉 Love This Truck!
1-5 because of the emissions.
Other then that, all 3 big diesels, you really can't go wrong with.
Depends on your application in my opinion but overall yeah all 3 would do you good
Just delete that shit
Great beginning of this video, 👌 Anybody paying commercial prices for diesel engines is insane. Diesel fuel is a by-product of making regular fuel. Too many people have forgotten this...
Its highly refined these days being ultra low sulfur
Old argument. Low sulfur fuel costs more than gas to make.
Wrong. Gasoline is a by product of diesel, Sorry.
I bought my 2008 E350 6.0 powerstroke before 2021 That's been deleted and studded and I love it as long as the diesel prices don't go $3 higher than the regular gas so if it's $4.40 a gallon for regular as long as it doesn't go over $7 a gallon it's still cheaper because I'm getting 21 mi per year gallon versus my 13 miles to the gallon.
I have a 2006 Duramax extended cab, with under 90,000 miles and in perfect shape. Seldom use it but from what I learned from you, it must be worth much more than a non diesel. No additives needed other than a little into the fuel.
How much you want for it? 🤣
@@mckadebrown1908 Was thinking the same thing!
I have a very nice 2001 Excab 4x4 2500HD Duramax 6.6 LB7 with 93,000 miles 15.5 to 16 mpg city and 22 to 23 mpg highway.
No the fuck you don’t stop the 🧢
I find in my area most guys buy a diesel is just to show off for the buddies.
I went with a 6.0 gas truck after my 06 dmax gave me tons of issues not engine issues but truck issues but I found unless your towing alot or hauling alot it isn't worth the extra price for diesel. And then on top of that. You have the bs to deal with the emissions stuff which isn't cheap. So the reliability of diesel has gone down hill due to that and it's to the point unless you want to take a chance at deleting the emissions which is against the law and could end up giving you a giant fine it's better to go with gas. Besides if you have a truck it's made to work not haul kids around to soccer practice.
Most gas trucks today can pull a heavy load without breaking a sweat. Do you good milage? No but again you bought it to work.
DEF.... I'll keep my 06 6.0 running forever and I love it
Diesel. Ha. I’ve had my 6.7 since 2014. Aside from changing the seal on the vacuum pump cover, *knocks on wood* I have not had a single issue with the truck motor-wise or much else in 149k miles. I did delete it, though. (It also has the banks ram-air intake, and the diff cover. Good choices.) It has been under a-rod’s care for the last couple of years now basically as well.
Love my Power Stroke, wouldn't have anything else. I do all my own maintenance so thats not an issue. Fuel costs, I don't care. FJB
Im happy with my 1993 Dodge W350 4x4 Cummins with a Manual! Simple to drive and Never gives up!
I have owned several diesels. Just not worth it. Back when Ford had the 7.3 diesel engine, it was truly bulletproof. In today’s world, the maintenance costs and cost of fuel just are not outweighed by the hassles. The 7.3 Godzilla is a worthy engine for anyone towing heavy.
I had a 2006 Chevy 1 Ton dually that had a big service bed on it that I used for work and also towed a 38 FT toy hauler with that I put 125000 K on no problems with it!! The new ones aren't dependable any more it's something all the time DPF DEF
What does that 7.3 get for milage? I have a 2020 chevy 2500 duramax. I average 11-12 mpg pulling my fithwheel.
@@michaelcopeland8985 I get 10mpg towing. No matter what truck I have owned over the past 30 years, I get 10mpg while towing.
Everyone says the 7.3 is bullet proof lol but they don't actually have one or if they do they don't use it for work. I've had 3 6.7s all ran over 250k before I got new one and never had to do anything beyond normal maintenance but I do delete which is very easy to do on these.
My 6.5 Denali is great to drive I see everything can go 800 miles a tank deasil will bee lower again
Just got a 2022 cumming ho dually bighorn sport 4x4 for 74k here in ga ..glad I went with a Cummins ho 3500 over the 64k hemi 2500!!!
I love my 2022 6.7 Cummins HO but in hind sight a 6.4 Hemi would have been a smarter decision for me. I agree 100% with everything you said. And I hate the DEF, EGR BS!!
I made the mistake of buying a new gas 6.4 in 2020. Hated everything about it especially fuel costs. That truck drank an obscene about of fuel. Traded it in for another diesel after 6 months and won't make that mistake again.
@@treeamigo8447 But how much DEF did it drink? Exactly!!
@@Motleymick
Def lasts quite a while unless you're always hooked to a trailer. Go buy you a 6.4 and I promise you'll be looking for a way out almost the day after you buy it. Looks practical on paper, that's why I went that route but in practice, a world apart from that diesel.
@@Motleymick it might not drink def but that 6.4 will certainly eat a lifter and cam. Then you'll need a whole new engine.
@@treeamigo8447 how do you keep ur diesel reliable?
I agree with you 100%. I own a 1999, F-250 with the 7.3 at only 106 k and I know these engines will go over 600 k. I can not wait to get rid of it!
I have a 2018 Cummins 6.7 that I just got deleted today. It’s a completely different truck. That DEF, EGR and DPF is pure poison for a Diesel engine. So glad I had it done.
If I buy one of these new trucks, can I have their stuff deleted?
It is my daily driver and I lease a a camper for the family because we don't get out often enough to own one. I like the Push bar, people actually give you room on the road. I like that.
For some Canadian folks average diesel price in southern Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 is $2.50 a litre🤑🫣
Considering gas and diesel is roughly the same price these days, my deleted 6.7 gets better mileage than most half tons, so fuel prices aren’t a factor
Not in my area, diesel is $1.50 - $2.00 more vs regular grade gas.
Where do you live? Diesel is ~$1.30 or more more expensive than gas at the least (6/2022)
@@hmdwn yep
@@hmdwn lol diesel is almost 6$ in IN and premium is abt the same price
Maybe where you live. Diesel is way more expensive where I live compared to gas. And gas is atrocious.
Just paid 5 grand for an 03 6.0. A few dings but the engine is in great shape with 200,000 miles on it. Was a farm truck used by the farmer to get around the farm and check on his crews. Never been more than 50 miles away from the farm since it was bought new.
Good luck with that piece of junk
@@billmerriwether6359 still running like a top. Sip your haterade little buddy. I love my truck.
@@ferretwithagun9886 had to both junk
I’d love to have a Super Duty, but the F-150 Ecoboost is way more practical for me. Picked up a ‘22 earlier this year.
sucker. buy a old 7.3 and you headaches will disappear
Never owned a diesel, don't know anything about then pre DEF or not, I always wanted one though. I appreciate the tips an information you give in this video.
I’ve got an 08 F350 with the 6.4. Had the new designed heads, dog delete and egr delete. Bruns like a top. You really need to have a use for it. I’ve got two trailer both in the 16,000 range so the diesel is perfect for towing. When I don’t tow it sits. Plus the drw is a pain to park. One thing you didn’t mention is the cost due to the quantity of oil and cost of filters. I wouldn’t work without one.
Despite the economic downturn, I'm so happy☺️I have been earning $60,200 returns from my $10,000 investment every 13 days
f 250 in my opinion is one of the best trucks. That garage is nice
Despite the economic downturn, I'm so happy☺️I have been earning $60,200 returns from my $10,000 investment every 13 days
Ok man you don’t need to add a fuel additive at every Fill up. And if you get fuel at Costco, 76, Shell, reputable fuel stations you won’t have a problem with that. Adding a fuel additive would be like every 15 to 20,000 miles. I usually add a few additive to my truck on one full tank before I change my fuel filter and I change my fuel filter every 20 to 25,000 miles. And I use a wicks fuel filter that filters down to 2 µm and it has a synthetic media. And with today’s trucks I would highly recommend switching to Amsoil. I have gained 2 miles per gallon from stock just by switching my engine oil transmission oil transfer case oil in front and rear differential oil. If you use a Amsoil signature series you can easily go 15,000 miles between oil changes. Amsoil says you can go 25,000 miles between oil changes but I do 10 to 15,000 miles because I do a lot of Intown driving and heavy pulling. And if you take care of your diesel truck knowing how diesels operate knowing how the emission system works you won’t have any problems with your emission system. With today’s vehicles the way that they’re engineered is around emissions they’re not like the trucks eight years ago and older. The new diesel engines are 100% engineered and designed around emissions. Unlike before they put emissions on engines that were not designed for it that’s where the problem started. Today’s diesel trucks if you take care of them and definitely not putting the cheapest fuel you can find in them they will last you a lot longer than a gas vehicle and give you better fuel Konomi than a gas pick up. I have a 3500 Rear Wheel Dr. pick up diesel and I get on average on a 300 mile trip 3.2 miles per gallon better than a friend of mine with his 1500 pick up. If the same year.
Now that sounds more like it. I have to believe what you are saying makes perfect sense. I’m about to buy a Chevy with the 3.0 and hope that engine will treat us right. So far all reviews say that it’s so. Thanks for your input.
@@hammer-r the 3.0L is so different then the 6.6L. They are good but not as good as the 6.6L I know some about that engine and what I do know is if you want a truck with the 3.0L and you can afford the 2500HD or the 3500HD with the 6.6 I would do that before I would get the 3.0L. And if you do decide to get the HD truck get the 2017 to 2019 L5P engine with 6 speed Allison transmission not the 10 speed.
@@hammer-r with the 3.0L it has a timing belt not a timing gear set which I do not like and it’s on the back of the engine on top of that. And it has a start stop feature which is terrible for diesel trucks and the emissions systems. Manufactures say that is not true their design to turn on and off constantly to save fuel but I got Proof that is not correct. Along with a bunch of other things that I’m not a fan of. But it is better then the gas engines and Ford and dodge smaller diesel engines.
@@Jc-bo1uu thanks for the advise.
@@Jc-bo1uu yea not a fan of stop start for a diesel. In fact you need to run idle an engine after a drive to cool down the oil and the turbo. Stop start does no good for the turbo.
Excellent comments on the negative points of owning a diesel. I was hoping the EPA would come to their senses and weight the good against the bad, but with the present way of thinking "climate change" regarding everything, it's not going to happen!
It was hard passing on the 6.7 when I ordered my 2022 F-250, but I had a lot of the same thoughts on why TO and NOT to buy. For me, looking out long-term with maintenance vs. initial buy-in, it just made more sense to go with the 7.3 gas engine. Also, with Ford production the way it is right now…I wasn’t willing to potentially wait 8 months to a year for the 6.7. MPGs might not be up there with the Powerstroke (getting 15-16 avg), but I love the power and torque I’m getting out of the 7.3 Godzilla! Both are great options though! Great video, as always!
The 7.3 makes 475 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 rpm.
The big three diesels make between 910 and 1075 at somewhere between 1600 and 1750 rpm.
All the diesels put out equal or greater horsepower than the 7.3's 430 HP in spite of spinning far less rpm.
THIS is why to buy a diesel to tow/haul heavy loads, especially if you "love power and torque".
@@HalfCrazy520 I do appreciate the information, but the point is I don’t NEED a diesel. I might want one, and I might like it better than the 7.3…but it’s not a necessity. For the everyday stuff that I do 90% of the time, the power and torque of the 7.3 is more than sufficient. Remember it wasn’t long ago that diesels had less horsepower and about the same torque as my 7.3 and they did work just fine. As for the high RPMs, the motor is built to operate in that range and I’m okay with that thing singing at higher RPMs!
@@beardedautomedia2261 Sounds like justifying why you settled for the gasser.... You "love the power and torque" because it's "sufficuent"?
If you don't NEED a diesel then there's no reason to buy one and there's no need to justify that decision to anyone.
@@beardedautomedia2261 Just under 300000 and loving my 7.3!!!!!!!!
Smart choice!
'95 7.3. 314,542 miles still chugging along. kept up with a wrx while pulling a trailer. 10,000lbs gcwr
Very good video and info. Thanks. All of the reasons you listed were the exact reason I got the 7.3.
As a die hard diesel fan... I agree with all points. I was at a ford dealer the other day: Pretty base F450 MSRP $84,000 + ADM (adjusted dealer markup) $15,000. Raptor, + ADM $29,950 on top of sticker... WILD. I'll continue loving on my L5P dirtymax lol
Been driving the 2017 GMC 3500 Denali, Dirtymax L5P/Allison for several months now. It's quiet, it's fast as stink considering it weighs 8850 lbs as driven, and it gets great fuel mileage for a heavy duty truck. A hundred grand for a new truck? Oh, hell no.
Diesel trucks get better fuel mileage than gas trucks so unless you plan on buying a sedan or SUV, get a diesel truck and do an egr delete
Thanks for buying a ford. I was wanting to buy a 2023 diesel but we truly have not been making many lately. Makes me wonder if the government is trying to force us to not build any, anymore. They don’t tell us anything but I’d say they’re gonna be expensive af this year.
A couple or few years ago I went hunting for a diesel truck and found a really nice Dodge Ram 2500 with the last of the 5.9 Cummins diesel engine . It the early 2007 . I'm the 3rd owner and it had 135,000 miles on it . I've been a mechanic all my life and have worked on and driven big rigs and trucks . Anyway , I knew what to look for and at when buying a truck . It's been a 5th wheel camper hauler all it's life for rich people until I bought it and it's spotless ! Damn thing looks and drives like new ! I got lucky as I almost gave up looking for my truck . It's the Mega Cab which I like in several ways except it has the turning radius of a dang School bus . But I love my 07 Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab 5.9 Cummins diesel truck with extra air bags for more weight . I bought it because the great condition it's in and got a heck of a deal on it plus it will last me till I die , so it's the last vehicle I'll ever buy . If you take care of your truck , it'll take care of you . A Cummins diesel engine will last me a million miles before it's time to rebuild it . It pulls my trailers great and does what I need , so I'm happy . By the way , Cummins is owned by Caterpillar , but they keep the two names and companies separate as both are known and used around the world . So for marketing reasons the kept the 2 names .
Same situation for me , 2007 ram mega cab but i have the 6.7 . I'm the 3rd owner and bought it from a diesel mechanic. Spotless and perfectly maintained. Should be my last truck purchase!
@@ericliebmann1087 Congratulations Eric . Please let me know how your engine holds up . Also if I may ask , what mileage does your truck have and if you have to do any repairs to your truck ? If I'm not mistaken , your truck requires DEF or am I mistaken ? As my truck with the 5.9 doesn't require the DEF .
As soon as I saw him kick the DEF box, I subscribed.
The emission just kills everything to love about a diesel
Even on the semi trucks they are having tones of problems. The semis sit in traffic and it cloggs up the dpf filter
Veteran here ,DEF is for civilian use , the military trucks dont have it ,why ? The government knows it's not dependable and you dont want your tanks in limp mode on a battlefield
true its for the people that depend on them for work and transportation let them pay for DEF and obscene fuel prices and big repair bills right just so it can regen and come out the tail pipe anyway
The EPA is currently deciding if Fire/EMS trucks will be granted an emissions wavier as well.
I have a 2012 that I considered trading along with my F150 for a 22 Platinum F350. No more massaging seats though, which is the reason for a Platinum. Going to stick with my 2012 and make the short bed work for us instead. It's deleted and disaster prevention kitted. Rebuilding the front end to eliminate DW, and pulling the bed to repair the rust. No DEF, no DPF, Runs great, just getting rust underneath.
Just bought a new 22’ crew lariat diesel for $74k and I love it! 😉
o is that all surprised you didn't buy 2 great deal dude congrats...
Oo high dollar money bags
Damn..what do u do for a living?
I just wanted to know your reasons. Our oldest son has a 2002 F-350 CC 4X4 dually with the 7.3L Power Stroke. He’s added a performance chip plus it’s straight piped. He loves his work truck, it’s a towing beast. But like you said price per gallon, you’ll need a 55 gallon barrel full of $100.00 bills just to fill up. You’re talking about new truck prices & dealerships markups, I’d walk away & not be foolish
I had the same 2002 F250 with 7.3 & the perf chip. it was so awesome! I had to sell it due to overseas tour. But right now honestly I know I could not afford that fill up. Good video. thx!
@yk2sunshine I'm about to buy a 00 250 7.3 diesel 6 speed manual, tuned, with a flatbed. I deff found a needle in a haystack condition truck but with only 1k miles on engine and trans I can't afford to say no.
I just removed my sled deck and swapped back to the factory wheels on my 2020 Ram 3500 Cummins because it’s leaving soon. My 7.3L gas F-350 was built at the beginning of May and should arrive here June 9th.
I have both and the diesel is cheaper to run in the long run gas 8mpg diesel 18mpg. Better resale I see the old diesel trucks selling for more than they costs brand new
Love my 2000 f250 7.3 235,000 trouble free miles, only needed a alternator and a water pump, I let mine idle 5 to 10 minutes to cool down also, after towing my trailer home up hill,
I guess it depends on what your pulling unless your pulling 15,000-40,000lbs no need to go to a diesel. I got a 80gal tank in a v10 motorhome probably weighs 20,000lbs and haven't had any problems going up mountains roads driving across the country.
It would cost me at least $100 more to fill my tank if I had a diesel. That adds up if your going cross country.
Got a 6.2L 350 after a decade using a tent, then buying a trailer. I see lots of diesel trucks pulling 10k or less trailers. Most of them don't look used for much else (like me). We mostly tow the trailer for camping 1-5hr trips. A bunch of neighbors have the same or smaller rig and a diesel truck they drive to the office or leave in the driveway.
Some pull 10k rigs with eco 150's which I think is risky down hills, but doable. Stepping up to 250/350 gas seems the best choice for folks like us. But if I were out west and driving up those longer/steeper hills, I'd go with a 7.3 gas or a diesel.
Hoping the e-trucks get that range and charge time addressed by the time I'm ready for my next one.
1990 7.3 non turbo still running pulling 10,000# at 18 mpg. No thanks, I am not in that big of hurry.
In the heartland of the US, gas is currently at or even under $3/gal. but the cheapest diesel fuel is over $4.50, a diesel/gasoline price ratio that is far higher than it has ever been. Even on the west coast, where gas prices are above $4/gal., the diesel/gas ratio is so high that a gas HD pickup costs less per mile than its diesel counterpart, even when towing.
There are several underlying factors pushing this (none of which show any sign of abating anytime soon, and may even get worse). The biggest factor is simply supply and demand. US refineries are producing nearly the maximum fuel oil/gasoline ratio possible (max #2 fuel oil component is ~40%) from crude oil. Demand for diesel fuel is inelastic because the entire agricultural & transportation infrastructure runs on fuel oil (even jet aircraft, which run on kerosene, aka #1 fuel oil). Battery electric vehicles are starting to replace gas-powered cars, but they aren't going to replace many heavy trucks any time soon. And the disruption of natural gas supply in Europe will likely cause to more heating oil to be consumed in Europe this winter.
Diesel 7.00 dollars a gallon in California and diesel shortages on east coast is a good reason
I saw on Facebook someone mentioned it was $10 a gallon in some places in California.
@@LrdDeathScythe that's on the coast 80 percent of the vehicles over there are Tesla's and the nearest gas station from it is 38 miles away
I switched from a Ram 6.4 hemi to a Cummins. No more high rpm pulling a tiny trailer lol. Gassers have emissions bs also and when that lifter or camshaft goes good luck getting a new motor this year!
Just stumbled across your page and love the truck brother. You should do a video for us newbies. I’m interested in owning a diesel but don’t know much about them at all. Maintaining, the little tips and tricks, adding the additive when you fuel them, etc. I think that’s something that would be very beneficial for newbies like me. Just a suggestion.
If you look back I’m sure he’s done a few videos on different topics that you mentioned. I’m not sure what they’re titled but should be anything with the F350 in them. They’re probably a bit more spread out that way but it’ll give you an excuse to binge a little. But your suggestion is definitely a good one though. Have all the basics wrapped up in one video.
These days there is no reason for regular people to buy diesel. When diesel and 87 were the same price it made sense, but now gas here is 2.67 and diesel is 4.49 so there is certainly no savings and it actually costs more to drive a diesel than a gasser.
In California diesel is almost the same as 87 octane gas here in 2024
I went down a dirt road and heard some weird noises. Now I don't have any of the issues you speak of.
I’ll never stop driving a diesel, however I will wait to buy a new one
I finally got My 22 Superduty with a 7.3 Gas engine for a lot if the reasons you brought up in the Video Yes I owned a 6.7 Superduty before and I do miss the power ..... I dont miss the maintenance costs etc.... I did Delete and tune that truck myself and had no more check engine lights or problems
Right I’ve owned several diesels a few new ones and I traded in my 2018 duramax for a 2020 3500 dually with the 6.6 gasser from GM it tows my 17k 5th wheel Reese goose box upgrade just fine and I tow a gooseneck trailer that averages between 15-18k occasionally for side work. I do miss the power from a diesel but do I need it no this gasser handles the weight just fine and with basically no maintenance cost.
Yeah I'm with you dude if I needed a full sized truck to tow shit with I'd get a f250 With that same godzilla motor preferably a tremor trim Old school big block no turbos no superchargers no fancy computers does the old school gasoline gas guzzling big block It will use a lot of gas but it will outlast the diesels for sure
So more appropriately, why not to buy a 2022 diesel truck… I bought my OBS 7.3 and fell in love..
I assume this mean only the larger trucks with larger diesels, not smaller diesels like the Duramax. As far as fuel prices, they go up and down. If you plan on holding onto it as a useful vehicle, you'll end up paying less than now.
I have an 06 cummins . It is primarily used for vacations etc. I love it , but other than towing very heavy things once in awhile i would go Hemi .
Nothing like a Diesel! 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
“Nothing like an old diesel” Fixed that for you. These newer diesels even deleted and straight pipe just don’t have the same bald Eagles that they use too. The 5.9 Cummins and 6.0 Powerstroke were prime diesels. Even at idle they just sound badass not to mention straight piped nothing touches them. these new diesels stock are as quiet as my gas saver 99 honda civic
I’m looking to get my 1st diesel idk 7.3 5.9 or 6.7 I just want reliable I rebuild Allison transmissions and never owned a diesel
I know for myself, I would not at all ever buy the new diesel trucks. Over the years I've owned Cummins, Powerstrokes, and the Duramax. I've owned them during years when the engines were terrific. Now because of the EPA, as we all know, the engines are so choked down, complex, and vastly more expensive to maintain, not to mention the cost of the diesel option over the gas, and all of this regarding the diesel is only getting worse. All the trailers that I've pulled and are pulling the gas trucks can do as well, with alot less headaches and breaking my wallet. I spent many years as a crude oil trucking supervisor and saw first hand the damage the EPA restrictions have caused on the big diesels and it is only getting worse. So for me it is just no longer worth it to go through the headaches, I'll simply enjoy my gas engine and still get the job done.
Too late as well. 2022 King Ranch Tremor.
My 7.3 hauls great. Great power for a gas engine. I can work on the engine down the line and nothing is too difficult or expensive.
Pre emission restriction diesel trucks are where it's at.
IF you can find one that's not beaten all to hell
@@kuyaali956 agreed, I bought a 05 gmc sierra, hd2500, slt, 4 door, long bed 2 years ago for 7,500. It had EVERYTHING wrong with it that I didn't know about. Even though I did every test I knew about, to establish blown head gasket ect. Dumped about 30k into it. Now I have a 700hp LLY Duramax with 210,000 ish miles on it. It's the absolute balls. I realize that I took a beating on the whole thing though. Either way... if the frame is good, rods are good, pistons are good. Some funds... will give you a phenomenal OLD TRUCK. Rolling coal and all that haha.
@@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083 I almost bought an older one for 15k, luckily I had a die hard diesel fan with me to check it out. He was able to tell from start up that it was going to be a bad buy. He found so many hidden things the seller tried to cover up. Me? It sounded like a diesel so it sounded fine to me LOL I ended up just getting a 2021. I can deal with the emissions. Wish I didn't. But didn't want to put whole bunch of money into something that may not of been worth it. Glad yours did though.
@@kuyaali956 if you go to my channel I have a brief video showing all I did to mine. I left out a few important details in the video but if you watch the video... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what I did. I copied "Truck Master" basically lol. Minus the traction bars, big lift(only kryptonite stage 3 leveling kit and full kryptonite ultimate front end package) and not bigger turbo but my lly has a 63.5 already from the factory so... I did 30 over injectors. My hot tune is +200 hp. I'll share the link here. If it doesn't work you can find it easily. It's my channel name and video titled "modified my duramax(or truck) a 🤏)
th-cam.com/video/ozdFMXabvOU/w-d-xo.html
Here you go. My lly
Well, it's a good thing I have a 2006 Dodge 5.9 Cummins 3/4 Ton Long Bed that requires no def, has no EGR, requires no Smog Tests
and runs like a CHAMP!!! I average around 10.8-11.3 MPG Towing the 5th Wheel Toy Hauler loaded with the Rzr Turbo S & all the goodies
and I wouldn't trade it for a brand new one. I keep it well maintained & it still looks sharp as a tack IMHO. I've had it so long it feels like a
part of my existence lol
I’m definitely one of those people who doesn’t know what you’re supposed to be checking on the turbo diesel
Glad I bought my 2021 GMC 2500HD Denali in 2021 !
Diesel 7 days a week twice on Sunday love my 6.7
Still gotta do it, welding rig that tows. Fords been junk lately so I picked up a ram 3500 dually.
Diesel use to be cheaper then gas since diesel was a byproduct of gas. I have a 2002 F250 with a 5.4 gas engine. The truck is paid for and I fixed many things from replacing the engine replacing the transmission along with other repairs. The body has been fixed so I have around 17k in it. I can definitely tell it works my truck when I'm pulling my 32' trailer.
5.4 is horrible
@@TheIceman556 not true I have a 2000 F250 with the 5.4, 283k on the dash. Original motor and trans
Just got my f-250 last week,, ordered in March,, was hoping it would take 6 months to get and allow the fuel prices to go down,,, but it showed up only 8 minutes weeks after ordering. Lol, I did get $7,800 off of sticker ($3,000 was ford rebate) so you don’t have to pay sticker, just takes finding the right dealer.
so instead of 100k it was 98k great deal
I didn’t get a new diesel when I was looking for a new (I got a gas) on because of DEF, that stuff sucks, if I do get a diesel I’m getting a 2006 or older.
LBZ
You should be putting additive in BEFORE you fill. Not after. You want it to mix. Not a big slug of additive floating around 😊
I do it both ways I’m sure it mixes around either way
I have both a 3/4 ton gas and a 3/4 ton diesel, they both have a 32 gal tank. Without pulling a trailer I get 350 miles to a tank in the gas truck and 650 miles to a tank in the diesel.
When pulling my trailer I get around 200 miles to a tank of gas and over 330 miles to a tank of diesel. While pulling my trailer the gas truck runs 4th-5th gear (of 6) the diesel uses all 6 gears with no problems. As far as the maintenance, the cost balances itself out to still be in the positive for the diesel, I will never buy another gas truck again or even a gas car for that matter it's diesel only for me.
Exactly. I’ve got a poor man’s diesel (‘17 Titan XD Cummins) and I get 18-19mpg combined and about 20-21mpg on the highway. If I’m on a country road doing 55 I get 25-26mpg. My old gasser never saw anything close to that.
Number 6: I don't give a fuck I always will drive a diesel I don't care about how much diesel is because I got money. I always keep up in maintenance on my diesel trucks. But I would like if sleepy joe can lower the gas and diesel prices down and also go to sleep and never ever wake up again.
ill keep my old dog 7.3 powerstroke no exhaust fluid needed and its payed for. If your worried about emissions buy a prius.
Look besides a couple small boats and light camper, I don’t need my 350 and I probably wouldn’t have it- but Id never get rid of it for one reason alone, I feel so much joy passing by a storming liberal with a mask on in there car going 10 under the speed limit .
Regular gas currently in SW Ohio is $3.75 a gallon, Diesel is $5.50 per gallon FYI , wow I haven’t really paid attention lately that’s crazy I’m glad I own a gas truck,
My guy!!! Blue def????!??? I had to replace my whole dpf after a month using that. 3k mistake and I’ll never use anything but motorcraft
I just paid 9k to replace my turbo in my International 4300 . Cost was 9000.00, included cleaning cats and exhaust from oil
Love my 95 7.3 . but the price of fuel needs to back off
Nice video, no hating on one engine over the other just the facts. Most gas vs diesel usually ends up in a scuffle. 😄.
Diesel. all day everyday
I was thinking about getting a diesel as a daily driver, currently have a 2016 Nissan frontier, 17mpg, the dealership I work at has a 2011 dodge 2500 lariat for 30k, in debate
diesels are fun
In Canada the price of diesel is now a whopping $11.00 a gallon . At that price you can't afford to go anywhere.
Canadian ? Thats crushing
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@@Mannievh J
That’s their plan