The other plus about having a gas truck is no one will question why you sit down to pee. They will just expect it. I would assume Sitting down to pee is more comfortable. But I like diesel trucks and don’t mind being uncomfortable. Or working on them. “Older ones” that is. This comment is a joke, for the ones that don’t get it. Not to be taken seriously.
The 7.3 Godzilla is a monster of an engine, but it has been having valve train issues. We've had quite a few in the shop since they came out with valve train issues.
I own and appreciate both gas and diesel trucks. They both have their place as well as pros and cons. In artic conditions the diesel has added issues. I've always ran 20 year plus old diesels. Got a 96 350 now. One thing I like about them is the alternative feul options. You can't do that with a gasser.
I drive an old cummins 12v in alaska daily... it takes a little longer to warm up when you start it but hasn't failed me in cold weather when the batteries are actually good. Its loud, its bumpy, but it just keeps purring along and its far easier to fix if anything goes wrong than any of the new trucks. Its a lot easier to justify doing the ball joints or injectors every couple years when you don't have to make a truck payment the size of a mortgage every month and it still gets better mileage than any of my previous gas trucks even tho it can pull a house on command. Its not ego, its frugal and utilitarian. It does what I need when I need it to, the rest of the time its cheaper, and just like any other old tool it requires a little restoration on occasion. If I ever decide to spend 70k or more on a new truck I will probably just take this one to a damn good mechanic and spend that money on making this one new again cause I am far past the point of depreciation and am into appreciation.
I agree with your points on gas over diesel. To spend the extra money on something you don’t need is pointless. I do own a diesel though. This is because I am a farmer and I already keep bulk diesel and corresponding bulk engine oil for diesel engines on my farm. That and I actually have use for the towing capacity of a diesel engine. If this wasn’t the case it wouldn’t be practical. Needless to say I wouldn’t waste the money or go through the extra inconvenience of owning a diesel just so I can tell people I own a DIESEL, for my own ego. Practicality is almost always better. I enjoy your channel. Have a nice day.🤗
Couple things. I agree with pretty much everything you said. Most guys really don’t need a diesel and would be better served with a gas motor. If you’re pulling every day the diesel is the way to go though, there’s nothing better than having 14k lbs behind a new power stroke and going uphill and putting the accelerator down and you accelerate like an empty f150 lol. Diesels in the cold as well.. I’ve never had an issue. Parked my plow truck (6.7 power stroke) outside all winter long with no block heater plugged in and cold started at -10 degrees F no issues. Maybe -30, -40 you’d have problems , but even then I think if you cycle the key a few times there’s not many issues. Run the correct oil for your temperature as well the manual suggests changing it in well below freezing temps.
I have owned a 2006 chevy duramax and it has almost 300k miles and I have not done any major work to it. Replaced front bearings and a water pump. The saying is true. Like a rock.
Its a shame the mid nineties Hiluxs are not available here. Those things prove it is capable they could have designed and built these trucks to almost never break.
#1 There is no replacement for displacement. Not to mention the Godzilla power numbers are about what the early and mid 2000’s diesels were putting out.
I got a 93 Toyota truck with salvage title. Bed was smashed and engine was roached. Bought a vw tdi got it fitted with 5sp and in the truck. Friend out in Tennessee got all the engine management and wiring sorted. Its a perfect truck for me because its not a lot of truck to start with. Burned about a half a tank of fuel with a weeks worth of camping and hauling dirt bikes. Not a powerhouse but its fits my needs. Something unusual and fun. Other truck is an old Ford f250 2wd. 352 and 3 on the tree. Wifey a new Subaru, its about as interesting as day old Dominoes Pizza.
I had a supper duty and when I couldn't get it started in the winter I took it to a deisel mechanic and he told me if I don't need to haul heavy stuff get rid of it because of the repair costs. I took his advice and went back to gas and bought a chevy. I don't miss the deisel fumes or the expensive repairs.
1st Gen ram diesel 4x4 is the untimate bug out truck. You can run used oil mixed with oaint thinner, canola oil, turpentine, gas...pretty much anything. They are easy to work on, emp resistant. Or one of them engines in a ford f350 of the same era
I'm not offended it's just another YT video. I bought my 2001 F350 7.3 brand new from Barber Ford in Ventura California and live in Ojai Ca, I've had minimal repairs on it it currently has 302k miles on it and it doesn't miss a beat. However as the miles rack up it gets more concerning about break downs on long trips. My son and I went to Virginia City up the 395, on our way home we left at 2am in the morning I have to say I was a bit concerned I didn't want to break down with my son at 4am in the morning and not knowing the area.
I think there's a good argument for the 3.0 Duramax in the GM 1500 trucks. Excellent highway and city fuel economy. I'm routinely getting 30-33 on the highway and 29-30 commuting to work in mixed driving. Plus it's 60% more efficient towing my toy hauler than a gas 1/2 ton. Still more expensive to maintain though. (I'm biased since I own one)
Gassers are great for those guys who just drive around a big pickup to look cool while getting groceries and occasionally pull a trailer. If you want massive power for towing, diesel is the way to go
Trucks are expensive! No matter what way you wing it, if you want it to last it takes work. Just did a steering rack, CV axel joint, tie rod ends, sway bar ends, radiator, full fluids, plugs, rotors, calipers, brakes all in one month. But damn is it worth it.
A lot of people who buy diesel trucks don't need one. Cost to buy and maintain a diesel is much higher. What it really comes down to is if you haul with it or not, and if you plan on putting 400k or 500k miles on it. The gas engine won't last as long as the diesel, but if you plan on keeping it only 150k, it doesn't matter. Any gas engine is usually reliable up to and beyond 250k really. So if you're not hauling regularly, diesel is a waste. But, the 6.7 is one of the quietest diesel engine out there, so much better than a lot of older diesels. The 7.3 gas engine sounds like a great engine from what I've heard so far. Probably a better choice for a lot of people. No shame in owning gas engines, as long as they do what you need them to.
I would say you are wrong and right, if deisels were old school with mechanical injector pumps, glow plugs and no computer then the deisel is the way to go, but now i agree with you, buy a gasoline engine instead. They dont make bullet proof deisel anymore. I suppose if you got a 6BT from the 90's and installed it in an old F250 or Silverado 2500 would be good idea.
100% agree The EPA complaint diesels are all junk basically We have a Ford 7.3L Godzilla engine box truck now. Works perfect Our mechanic said no one makes a reliable Diesel anymore thanks to the EPA rules. Just buy a 7.3L. So that’s what we’re doing. So once the old Mitsubishi Fuso dies it will be a gas unit. As a business it comes down to economics Ego doesn’t matter it’s about up time A 7.3L is the best bang for the buck for construction etc There a few uses in which a diesel and it’s power is required very few. So unless you need the power get the 7.3l simple / reliable/ fast mechanic turn around on repairs
I love my old diesel but oh man, is it not fun spending tons of money fixing all the things that need help on the almost 30 year old car. Still, I will always enjoy it.
As someone who is from the UK, diesels were encouraged for fuel efficiency and environmental reasons then the government changed its mind and said it was the devil soo now we get taxed for going into certain cities"London" with diesels, I love a good old diesel, wish there were more petrol pickups and mid size SUVs in the uk though, but a 2.5TD is much more common and much cheaper in the UK Also 2.5 is relatively a common size
You’ll get more for a diesel with 200k than you will of the same gas f250 with 100k. You get 10-20k more (at least in this market) when you sell the truck. If you haul anything you’ll save money on fuel even with the extra $1 a gallon. The super duty engine will require less maintenance and repairs over the life of the truck. Unless you plan on plowing only and using the bed and never towing more than 7k a diesel is just better. I’d rather downgrade my trim to get a diesel than upgrade to get a gas
I wouldn't buy a modern diesel. The def/regen systems are expensive to maintain and they have a lot of issues. I work on big rigs. The def/regen systems are nothing but a headache and it is one more thing to put a strain on the engine. I do own a 1987 diesel truck. Runs great and i can work on it with ease. No turbo, no def/regen, or any other headaches with 2016 or newer diesels. Paid $12k for it two years ago. Other then fluids and filters nothing has been an issue. Full disclosure, it is a m998 Humvee with a 6.2l.
Unfortunately Ford has been plagued with death wobble from the factory. When they switched to front coils they never upgraded trackbar/ tie rod/ draglink. I test drove a 2022 Tremor with the 7.3 and almost broke my wrists. Be careful!!
Only problem with the Godzilla and why it's not the best engine Ford ever produced is they took a page from the GM and Chrysler book and put those (not sure what Ford calls it) AFM lifters in that collapse and sometimes will take the cam out. I still think the AFM lifter problem still is better to deal with than the repair cost of owning a diesel. But I think if you are changing your oil every 3,000 miles ( I know they say you can go 7,000) you'll probably be fine, I mean it cost less to do an oil change than to fill up a tank of gas.
Screw the 7.3L gas. I've got two 23 year old 7.3L diesels still going strong. I don't need a sparkly jet. I need to haul a flatbed of round bales for my livestock and I need to haul livestock. And those trucks somehow get better fuel economy with a loaded trailer than they do naked.
Love your vids sir and I traded my diesel for gas two years ago and man I save so much money. I loved my baby but she ate way to much. Lol but best content and you seem like a genuine guy. Keep up the good work sir. God bless
are you pulling heavy stuff for long distance regularly if yes diesel may be best if your carting the kids around going to work n like riding dirt toys gas should be all you need and 1 fuel for cars and toys is nice
I love diesels...but they are really impractical unless you plan on doing a lot of HEAVY towing, or, running some really big off road tires and you would rather spend extra on the engine than upgrading your differentials. Of course, we're talking HD Diesels. A "baby" Duramax, Eco Diesel, or the 5 liter Cummins for the Titan XD are a different story. Even so, I agree about fuel availability. Plus, I don't like cold starting issues. As far as the smell...it smells like...VICTORY!!!
@@redrustyhill2 Bruh...it's a '95. That's totally uncommon. You've got compression issues, fuel injector issues or mixture issues. One thing you could try is disconnecting your oxygen sensors. The computer should go back to default values. One way you might know it could be the 02 sensors is if you put the pedal to the floor but get jerky acceleration. It might do it at high RPM's. Your diesel starts at -15? Try that with a tank full of #2 Diesel. You'd better have some Diesel 911 on-hand. My point being, that you don't necessarily know what's in the gas station's tanks, especially at the beginning of the winter season. Even so, to the best of my knowledge, not all #1 Diesel is created equal. Different latitudes may add more or less kerosene to the mix. While that, practically, shouldn't cause any problems... sometimes it does. Obviously, with a gas engine you don't have to be concerned. The fuel should be consistent, year-round, I would think.
"I don't like cold starting issues" is code for I don't understand how glow plugs work. You're supposed to wait until that little squiggly light goes out. That's the light that tell you the glow plugs are heating up. If you don't let them heat to temp, the engine won't start. Turn the key too many times and you'll food the engine and it won't start at all. Glow plugs take a little longer to heat up when it's cold. This is common sense.
@walterwhite2640 not all diesels have glow plugs, actually very few do anymore, and there is alot more issues in cold weather with diesel trucks than gas. Anyone who actually runs diesel powered equipment when its COLD will know that.
Here in New Zealand diesel costs 20% less than normal gas. Then it costs less to run a diesel engine over a petrol engine. I run an Isuzu D-Max and have found it very economical to run. I bought it new and have had no problems with it. Only things I've had to change are the brake pads, tires and oil. The price of petrol in NZ is more than double the price it is in the US. Love your channel. God bless you and your family!
haha in sweden its the opposit. Gas 2.08 dollar/l disel 2.35 dollar/l yes sweden love taxes. In sweden all new disel cars is also forced to come with adblue which means you need to add that to the coast and ontop of that the car actually dont need it but if it runs low they added a feature which kills the car until you fill it back up.
@@Nickerian91 One Us gallon = 3.7854118 liters so your paying around $8.80 a us gallon. I guess your country has some Inflation too, I buy fuel $2.75 a gallon here in the US. you do the math.
As a guy that owns a Ram with a Cummins diesel, I can say confidently that everything about owning a diesel is pricier. Maintenance, parts, service costs, and in some areas, fuel. I love my truck, but owning it truly is a labor of love, and it is certainly not for everyone. That brakes/ball joints comment hit a little too close to home...lol
Man oh man.. I bought a 98.5 Ram 3500, 2wd, regular cab with the 5spd. Used it to haul cars and RVs back in the early 2k's. Engine treated me right, even though I drove it like a rental. Transmission and clutch were solid performers too. Wish I had the 6spd from time to time, but that 5spd was solid and never gave me any issues. The front end though? Oh good lord. I replaced the entire front end on that truck every 100k miles or so. Ball joints, tie rods, pitman arm, steering box.. All of it was junk after 100k. 4 full rebuilds on that truck over the years. I'd absolutely do it all over again. It was solid and never left me stranded after I got rid of the VP44.
BUT YOU WILL SEE 1 MILLION MILES if you take good care of it. just saying , them rams will start to fall parts before the cummins lol. ill say go ram or go home. at least a hemi.
When I bought my first diesel power stroke back in 01, the price of diesel was significantly less than regular unleaded. Also the fuel economy was much better! You actually could save money if you drove it enough miles. That truck is probably worth now what I paid for it then. The biggest reason not to buy a diesel now is the emissions equipment. Also, there is little to no sound difference anymore. I used to shut my truck off in a drive through just so I could hear the person talking to me.
Lol I still shut mine off at the drive thru. Not sure a muffler would make a difference or not. Most of the noise doesn't come out the exhaust unless you get on the skinny pedal.
My 2002 7.3L! Has Just about 700K miles on it. Original injectors. Only major issue Was I smoked the trans 180K. We Rebuilt it with all the upgrades including billet TQ. Zero issues since
It’s a shame what the EPA did to the diesel market. I was a SuperDuty diesel guy for 19 years and went to SuperDuty gas 2 years ago. No regrets at all.
@@user-wp5fe8ec6l It's horse sh¡t propaganda. 70% of the world's oxygen comes from phytoplankton algae in the oceans. Trees and other plants contribute very little. More Co2 equals more oxygen. Green house effect is a theory, not proven. What is proven is that the earth goes through cooling and heating cycles, and we are in fact closer to the next ice age. The earth will do what it wants to, whether humans are here or not. What is an issue is China polluting our oceans, killing off marine life. If the oceans die, then we die. It's where most of our global food supply comes from, plus our largest supply of oxygen. EPA is a scam. Manufacturers can buy pollution points. EPA doesn't care, they just want money, it's the government. You can literally buy them off.
@@saltysteel3996 we are talking about particulates and toxic rogue emissions. Total carbon content (CO and CO2 etc) of both petrols and diesels is roughly similar. Actually, diesels probably emit less total carbon per unit of work. As for climate change.. it's just science and I'm not going to get into it based on an absurd irrelevant tangent (incidentally a silly strawman) to the subject at hand. Fuel efficiency is often motivated by controlling net carbon output ie considering image change for real or optical purposes but controlling the cleanliness of emissions is usually done for their directly toxic nature and that's a real thing too if you've ever travelled. I live in the bush and tbh I wouldn't trade it for the city at all. I'm also an arborist and I appreciate using some kickass old saws from time to time but inhaling less fumes isn't such a bad thing, especially with a climbing saw in front of your face all day. I used it for a few minutes to do some rough carpentry in the house with a giant fan on and doors and windows open and covering over my face.. and I was sick as for the day heh
The main reason I don’t buy Fords is because I hate working on them compared to GM, and although my shop sees about the same amount of both brands of trucks come in it seems to me the Fords have more stupid problems whereas GM is regular wear
@@gizmosgadgets4146 how is changing sparkplugs on a Ford truck? What used to be the easiest job in mechanics they wont even quote you at a dealer now, because so many break off and have to be tapped out
Nailed it with the ego. Full display on the construction sites, sand dunes, camp grounds and the lake. 40 years ago people were pulling boats with a station wagon, now there is an $85k pickup pulling a $100k boat. That's crazy in itself but to each their own.
It’s so insanely common for young construction workers I know to have $1,500-2,000/mo truck payments, and yet some even live at home with their folks. They have zero clue how insane that is to anyone over the age of 35.
@@AsAugustSleeps I cannot fathom doing that. There are certain things, that if you have to go to such extreme terms to finance, well then, you simply aren’t rich enough to own said items. I hear of 15 year loans in wakeboard boats. That’s absurd! Especially for a boat! I can understand extending yourself a bit for a house, but not a damn fancy truck or boat or RZR.
We’ve all been there one way or another: “Don’t talk to me, I’m trying not to kill us.” And the wife: “You kids shush up, daddy’s gotta watch the road!”
Diesel tech & diesel owner here… this guy was pretty on point with most of it 🤷🏽♂️ EXCEPT the noise & smoke, cmon mannnn lol that old “tearing itself apart” sound is beautiful!! Lol
Diesels were nice back in the hay, simple chunks of unstoppable metal. Now, they are way more complicated than gas, since all the emission tech has suddenly crept up and they are loaded with sensors and half-baked technology. One sensor goes out and the whole system fails.
@@michaelbenoit248 my buddy bought a 93 7.3 for 2k and I kinda wanna buy a 4 door 92 but I just put in an a application for a 2019 ram and hoping they approve me
@@myststories2539 You need an application to purchase a car? What country is this in? I've never heard of filling out an application to purchase a vehicle. That's insane to me!
Some people need a diesel. Others don't. I drive a Ford F350 single wheel 4x4 with a gas engine. It pulls everything I want to pull with ease. That includes our 33 foot travel trailer. I haven't felt the need of a diesel. Additionally, when we're at our ranch in the Arizona White Mountains the nearest filling station does not have diesel. So, gas works best for us. On the other hand, I've got a contractor friend who pulls such heavy equipment all the time that a gas engine would not make sense. To each his own.
@@davidlittle611 some F350s, Ram 3500s and Silverado equivalents come with double wheels in the back, like 2 wheels per side of the axle. There's a Federal limit to how much weight you can put on a normal tire and it's more reliable in case one tire breaks.
As a diesel guy, everyone has their own reasons to own a truck. Not everyone needs a diesel. I own a 2005 5.9 Cummins to pull a 34' 5th wheel camper. I would only have own a diesel without emissions. I personally like the smell of diesel fuel.
I have a diesel tractor. When I start it it stinks to high heaven. But after it warms up it's not so bad. Your story about the guy going to Detroit made me laugh.
@@hubes96 You are right you could, but why would I trade my truck in, that I already have to get a gasser. I personally wouldn't want to pull it with a gasser.
You definitely made some valid points. Everyone has different needs and should purchase the vehicle that suits their needs. It always kills me though when I see people buying these giant trucks and they never use them for there intended purpose. People in Las Vegas are awful with that. Hey, let’s put on a lift and giant tires even though we never go off-road. I have a mid-size SUV now and it’s perfect for me. I’m also 6’4” and just don’t fit well in cars. Anyways, God bless you and yours and stay safe!
Makes sense to me, over 400 bhp and over 400 ft pounds torque sounds more than enough. Love that story, can just picture the guy with the pistol scratching his head afterwards, wondering why it didn't have any effect hitting him over and over again as hard as he could, and saying "man, that guy must have an iron skull!":)
"Don't talk to me, I'm trying not to kill us". Lmao. Totally agree with the gasser. I'm a diesel guy since ice been a trucker for 35 yrs but the last pick up truck I was going to buy was a gas pot. Just couldn't justify the cost and up keep considering the usage I intended it for. Travel and camping. Because it would get no mileage through the week I didn't see the need as my daily was the companies semi.
The best reason to buy a diesel is the ability to make your own biodiesel with any vegetable oil or used motor oil in case something happens, and that something might happen any day now. Cant make your own gasoline at home though. 5grams of lie into .5 gallons of methanol, swish int a bottle, don’t close container as it will explode the cap off, swish until all lye is dissolved -pour into 3 gallons of filtered waste veg oil, tightly cap, shake for a minute, release pressure cap off and on -let sit for 3 days -darkness is glycerin, will be at the bottom, pour off the biodiesel I like the simplicity of this. I do think its best to use a seperatory funnel during the settling out of the glycerine. By opening a valve at the bottom you drain it off easily. It can then be washed in the funnel and allowed to settle again. Likewise, open the valve at the bottom and drain off the water. You'll be left with quality, clean biodiesel at the top which will not harm the engine you are using it in. METHOD 2 10 liters of used oil, heat to 50-60c Mix 2 liters methyl alcohol with potasium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide (add powder into liquid, not liquid into dry powder as it might explode) stir to dissolve for a while Pour into hot oil slowly while mixing, stir for at least 15 minutes to 30 minutes, until clear Pour into another container and let sit for a day or two, better when hotter, Glycerine will settle, use a valve
1999 F350 with a 7.3 Liter Diesel engine in mine. Almost at 400k miles. Starts every time, no smoke and runs nicely. I hope to turn the odometer over in it. I love my truck but I understand the gas engine argument... to each his own.
I only have 235000 on my 7.3 diesel in my 02 f250. I kinda like the noise🙂. I did have to put glow plug in it at about 210000. Her in my part of Alaska diesel is 3.35 a gal and gas 3.55 and its tough to find even a small middle of nowhere station up here that doesnt have diesel. I will admit, for 90% of my miles an old 302 gas engine would work just as well, but for the other 10%? The old 7.3 PS is perfect.
I've owned 12 diesel trucks in my 52 years. So I am definitely a diesel guy. Very good points. But you missed number 10. Number 10 or really number 1 is the new freaking DEF fluid you have to put in.
"Don't talk to me, I'm trying not to kill us" haha good to know I'm not the only one that gets a little terse when the driving conditions go into the dumpster.
@@leswilliamson3587 Don't you mean the East Coast, with all its population density, compared to anything west of the Mississippi? Just take a look at a picture from space at night of the U.S. All the population density is in the eastern half.
Durability used to be one of the things with Diesel engines. With the horsepower/torque arms race they’ve turned them into race engines that need to be heavily maintenanced at about 100k miles. I’m in for Godzilla my next truck. From a 7.3 to a 7.3.
Finally, someone was honest about those diesels. 99 % of those who have them DO NOT NEED them. And what a PITA they are today. Back in the day, the operation costs were negligible because diesel fuel was cheaper, and no DEF fluid. Thanks again Cody foe being honest
Nah. If you want one you’ll just get one. I don’t get how people think you have to have a need for something to have it. You don’t need anything. If you want something go get it. Everything I own is diesel even my car. Easier to work on for me. Longer lifespans. Can tow if I need to too and over 25mpgs in everything and the tdi gets over 50 so to each their own I guess.
To each their own, it's sad to see diesels wracked by emission systems, they could be absolute monsters getting insane levels of power with minimal fuel consumption and instead we have the special olympics of trucks, I sure hope common sense prevails
Common sense won't prevail. It's already gone forever. Diesel, fossil fuel lowered vehicles are being phased out already. Well be lucky to be able to buy a gasoline or diesel truck by 2030. This isn't a re-hash of current conspiracies. I am a product development for one of the major American commercial vehicle manufacturers here in United States. Believe me when I say this.........all combustion engines are going away. On top of that, we won't be allowed to operate our vehicles ourselves anyway. This is not something I'm happy about. It makes me sick working for a company that is going along with this energy transfer. I've been preparing financially to be able to quit helping the effort for the last couple of years.
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 electric may be the future but it's not here, and there are plenty of uses and users that won't allow for electric it'll take a lot to take the steering wheel from me
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 if things continued on the old trajectory, you would be right. It's not going to. Electricity is going to be very hard to come by, unreliable and expensive soon. The World economy is currently crashing. The very old gas trucks without computers will be the ones still running.
True, could say the same about petrol, far better compression ratio with there was lead in it. But as another TH-cam said, they had to take it out because it was killing seal and upsetting lesbians.
@@owendodman3037 I'm with you on that. I own three vehicles and the newest one is 26 years old. I'll fight with everything I have before going along with the new plan
Cody, I greatly respect the way you approach the sensitive topics... gas vs diesel, east coast vs west coast, etc... keep up the good videos! P.S. I love my Cummins and I have had all the big 3 brands gas and diesel. It all boils down to personal preference and what you're using it for. God Bless and good luck on getting the shop done before the snow flies!
The big reason I have a diesel, I am a certified diesel tech. I know how to work on it, I know where to get good parts. That’s my reason to own it. Plus my 5.9 Cummins is just fun.
2005 Cummins 5.9 6 speed manual with manual transfer case and I did the manual front hub Dana 60 style swap. It’s getting older but with cost of trucks- I’m just going to maintain it and pass it down.
@@Upliftyourbrothers I have basically the same truck. But an '06. It is the last of the good diesels. AZ truck with zero rust and under 120k miles. It is the newest diesel I will own, and definitely a keeper.
I'm in the same position, except my certification came from TH-cam. :D I have a 6.0 Powerstroke, and the only way I can justify keeping it is that I'm able to do the repairs myself. If I had to take it to a mechanic, it'd break the bank. I don't need a truck that big, and especially not a diesel, but like you, my diesel is just fun! When it's running that is... on that note, I gotta go work on my truck (and I'm not kidding).
Same I've been there. Shite old 2003 Kia Carnival on very narrow very bendy roads with pretty much steep 45 degree shoulders directly from the side of the road, I was gripping and concentrating harder than I have in my life.
Nothing beats the old 6bt 12v Cummins, all mechanical easy to tune and will run far longer than any gas engine. Plus no emissions and very easy to work on compared to these new computer operated trucks and cars. 1990’s best generation for any car!
I love how it’s the exact opposite where I live. Petrol is hard to find in remote areas and if u can find it it’s super expensive. And everyone Ik loves the smell of diesel
Cody, Here in the UK, the push for many years was 'Go diesel'. The fuel was cheaper, with the introduction of Turbo Diesel engines they were no comparative to petrol engines and it was supposed to be better for the environment. Fast forward 10 years. The emission laws and catalytic converters just make owning a diesel very expensive. The emission regulators are always going wrong and cost a small fortune to repair/replace. Your Cat has to be replaced or (if you're lucky) cleaned and they are very expensive, to the point that they are now regularly stolen off vehicles by criminals who scrap them for the precious metals inside. Then the price of diesel went up, so that it is now either the same or slightly more expensive to petrol. To top it all, the UK Government have now stated that they intend to phase out diesel cars over the next 10 years - why would go diesel for a family vehicle, in this day and age.
If the government is telling you they want to phase out diesel, then you can expect the same for the future for gas. Long story short, whatever the government says... do the opposite.
Was gonna add a few things for the new diesels. Both good and bad that you missed. New diesels run way quieter then the old ones due to their fuel injection strategy and they their exhaust is cleaner. With that in mind the drawback to this in repair costs you didn't mention was the failures of the DPF system in the exhaust and EGR cooler problems. Those alone are costly to replace and with the EPA going rogue with everything even beyond diesels it's extremely illegal to delete any of these emissions devices off of the truck. Also there is the diesel fuel prices and for what small mpg gain there is on these diesel trucks its not enough to offset the cost of the fuel. It's simply too costly to own a Diesel truck entirely in 2023.
I own the diesel version of your truck, color and all. I have a farm in the Appalachian hills and haul equipment, livestock and horses constantly over long distances. I appreciate the extra power and fuel economy and my truck is very quiet in the cab. I don't regret buying my truck but I often question if the 7.3 would have been a better option for many of the reasons you stated.
Your story reminded me of my dad.. My grandfather owned a chevy dealership in the 50's and he would take my dad with him to the train station four hours away to pick the cars up and drive them back. Each would drive a car back. My dad was twelve and times were very different.
“Don’t talk to me I’m trying not to kill us” was wondering if I was the only one to say that. Nowadays if I think anything could go badly sideways I leave the wife and kids at home.
On the older 6.0L & 6.4L this was true, the newer 6.7L don't need the cab lifted to do most repairs. Basically, if you have to pull the cab on the 6.7L, you would have to do it on the gas engine too.
As a 6.7 diesel super duty owner, I completely agree with all your points and if the 7.3 stands the test of time it will be in my next truck but at the time of my purchase the 6.2 was the only gas option ... beautiful truck bud and thanks for the great content !
I can remember when the Ford powerstroke first came out all the general contractors had to have one and they were so loud that you couldn't even talk to each other at the drivers door until they turned the truck off because they were so loud. Like you said, they were always in the dealerships getting something fixed too. Another thing to consider is Oil and filter changes. Twice the price on a diesel. Plus fuel filters need changed all the time too. Also not cheap.But its hard to beat an Allison transmission behind a Cummins in line 6 for longevity that for sure.
Your comment is confusing, are you talking about a Cummins swapped truck? Allison’s don’t come behind Cummins from the factory. Also IHI was second to best to Cummins for quite a long time. Navistar built the 7.3 power stroke very well, one of the most reliable engines ever produced, I find it hard to believe they constantly had problems when powerstroke was first introduced in ‘94, I’m at 415k original engine, Pump, injectors, glow plugs. Oil changes are expensive, but fuel filters are cheap and don’t need to be changed as often as you think.
Oil changes are about twice the cost but we also have to change ours half as often. Most gas engines are 5-7,500 mile changes my Cummins is 15k all of my filters oil and both fuel filters are the same and cost 50. It’s all in what you need or want. That’s why they make different things. I’m a Cummins guy I won’t own another ford anything.
I agree with your list unless like you said, you need the power. I routinely toe a 28’ trailer at about 26,000lbs. I also didn’t want to spend 100k on a truck so I bought an older power stroke and rebuilt the entire motor myself and I couldn’t be happier. Super clean truck and rinds great. One thing you might think about though is I store about 2,000 gallons of diesel most of which I bought at under 3.50 a gallon and that diesel will keep for a min of a decade! You simply can not store gasoline for any period of time. Also tuned for mileage I get 26mpg when I’m not towing. The new Ford 10 speed transmission is amazing. That same truck in diesel will tow 50,000lbs. Nice truck BTW!
Wrangler star, I agree with most of your points. I have a 2006 dodge Cummins that gets 19-24 mpg empty. My diesel is simple and easy to maintain like your 7.3 gas engine which you can actually see completely, unlike the 6.7 Ford diesel that fills the entire engine bay fender to fender. Modern diesel emissions are a nightmare to maintain and repair. Additionally when repairs are needed you don’t know if the mechanic is simply firing the “parts cannon” at a problem he really doesn’t understand at your big expense!
A couple years ago I did a rough cost of ownership calculation between the gas and diesel trucks going out to 100k miles. It seems like they ended up coming out roughly the same. You pay up front for the diesel and get it back on the sale. The improved mileage offsets the cost of diesel and maintenance assuming you don’t encounter major mechanical issues with either one. The biggest thing that keep me from seriously considering a 7.3 gas was the small fuel tank at the time. I don’t know if they’ve added the option for larger gas tank but at the time the range was abysmal in comparison to the diesel. Second, it’s a Ford. I spent years working on both Ford and Dodge trucks as well as owning both. Still can’t talk myself into owning a Ford. High repair costs are definitely not only a Ford problem but looking under the hood of a 6.7 power stroke vs 6.7 Cummins and it’ll be obvious which one is going to cost more to repair. Ford seems to hide expensive failure prone components in hard to access locations. We’d spend a day doing a job on a Ford that might take a couple hours hours on a Dodge.
Got a fellow Pipeliner friend that traded his 6.7 350 for the Godzilla. Ended up ditching his fifth wheel because the gasser couldn't handle the declines.
My Dad is retired Ford assembly line worker. Even with the discount, I hesitate to buy another Ford truck. My last was a 2010 F150 XLT 4x4 with the 5.4l. Two exhaust manifold replacements at $2800 each. One rear differential at $1800. A 4x4 control system swap from vacuum to electric at $600 because the stock system kept failing and chewing up the hubs. Two sets of front wheel bearings as well. These days full size Ford pickups are priced waaaaaay too high and they come with a whole mess of options that I have no use for. I currently drive a low miles 2003 GMC 2500HD with the 6.0l. Aside from a squeaking crew cab door, I have had zero problems. All I have added is aftermarket bluetooth radio and rear backup camera.
As the snow levels creeps down and ski season starts here soon in Colorado, I’ve been looking forward to this years winter vehicle kit video.
The other plus about having a gas truck is no one will question why you sit down to pee. They will just expect it. I would assume Sitting down to pee is more comfortable. But I like diesel trucks and don’t mind being uncomfortable. Or working on them. “Older ones” that is. This comment is a joke, for the ones that don’t get it. Not to be taken seriously.
Yep, I laughed out loud. 👍 😂
Funny!!!!
I read this while sitting and Peeing, i drive a turbocharged gas truck so it’s fitting 😂
@@LeonidasD828 yes Ford ecoboost definitely sounds like a queef
LOL
The 7.3 Godzilla is a monster of an engine, but it has been having valve train issues. We've had quite a few in the shop since they came out with valve train issues.
That's why 5w-20 has no business in a engine.
@@duckwacker8720 Yep I would think 10w-60 would be the ideal choice.
@@duckwacker8720 That's why Ford says to use 5-30 in 7.3's.
@@oscaracme that's not any better.
5w-40 or 15w-40 has always done great.
I own and appreciate both gas and diesel trucks. They both have their place as well as pros and cons. In artic conditions the diesel has added issues. I've always ran 20 year plus old diesels. Got a 96 350 now. One thing I like about them is the alternative feul options. You can't do that with a gasser.
Can convert gas to lpg
Got a 5.3 vortex in a 2001 gmc sierra 1500 for free. Not gonna consider diesel until that bullet proof engine fails. At 315k miles and still going.
I drive an old cummins 12v in alaska daily... it takes a little longer to warm up when you start it but hasn't failed me in cold weather when the batteries are actually good. Its loud, its bumpy, but it just keeps purring along and its far easier to fix if anything goes wrong than any of the new trucks. Its a lot easier to justify doing the ball joints or injectors every couple years when you don't have to make a truck payment the size of a mortgage every month and it still gets better mileage than any of my previous gas trucks even tho it can pull a house on command. Its not ego, its frugal and utilitarian. It does what I need when I need it to, the rest of the time its cheaper, and just like any other old tool it requires a little restoration on occasion. If I ever decide to spend 70k or more on a new truck I will probably just take this one to a damn good mechanic and spend that money on making this one new again cause I am far past the point of depreciation and am into appreciation.
I agree with your points on gas over diesel. To spend the extra money on something you don’t need is pointless. I do own a diesel though. This is because I am a farmer and I already keep bulk diesel and corresponding bulk engine oil for diesel engines on my farm. That and I actually have use for the towing capacity of a diesel engine. If this wasn’t the case it wouldn’t be practical. Needless to say I wouldn’t waste the money or go through the extra inconvenience of owning a diesel just so I can tell people I own a DIESEL, for my own ego. Practicality is almost always better. I enjoy your channel. Have a nice day.🤗
Couple things. I agree with pretty much everything you said. Most guys really don’t need a diesel and would be better served with a gas motor. If you’re pulling every day the diesel is the way to go though, there’s nothing better than having 14k lbs behind a new power stroke and going uphill and putting the accelerator down and you accelerate like an empty f150 lol.
Diesels in the cold as well.. I’ve never had an issue. Parked my plow truck (6.7 power stroke) outside all winter long with no block heater plugged in and cold started at -10 degrees F no issues. Maybe -30, -40 you’d have problems , but even then I think if you cycle the key a few times there’s not many issues. Run the correct oil for your temperature as well the manual suggests changing it in well below freezing temps.
I have owned a 2006 chevy duramax and it has almost 300k miles and I have not done any major work to it. Replaced front bearings and a water pump. The saying is true. Like a rock.
Its a shame the mid nineties Hiluxs are not available here. Those things prove it is capable they could have designed and built these trucks to almost never break.
Have you seen whistlin diesel holux videos? Seems a hilux can do quite a bit. Maybe not towing like a full ton dually pickup, but seemed bomb proof.
#1 There is no replacement for displacement. Not to mention the Godzilla power numbers are about what the early and mid 2000’s diesels were putting out.
“Don’t talk to me I’m trying not to kill us” haha sometimes I say that to the lady when we are just sitting in the living room.
I have the 6.8 Triton V10 in my 2009 F350. Amazing engine.
I got a 93 Toyota truck with salvage title. Bed was smashed and engine was roached. Bought a vw tdi got it fitted with 5sp and in the truck. Friend out in Tennessee got all the engine management and wiring sorted. Its a perfect truck for me because its not a lot of truck to start with. Burned about a half a tank of fuel with a weeks worth of camping and hauling dirt bikes. Not a powerhouse but its fits my needs. Something unusual and fun. Other truck is an old Ford f250 2wd. 352 and 3 on the tree. Wifey a new Subaru, its about as interesting as day old Dominoes Pizza.
I had a supper duty and when I couldn't get it started in the winter I took it to a deisel mechanic and he told me if I don't need to haul heavy stuff get rid of it because of the repair costs. I took his advice and went back to gas and bought a chevy. I don't miss the deisel fumes or the expensive repairs.
One plus that people don’t think of is that in a fuel shortage there are many more gas powered cars and trucks on the road.
1st Gen ram diesel 4x4 is the untimate bug out truck. You can run used oil mixed with oaint thinner, canola oil, turpentine, gas...pretty much anything. They are easy to work on, emp resistant. Or one of them engines in a ford f350 of the same era
I'm not offended it's just another YT video. I bought my 2001 F350 7.3 brand new from Barber Ford in Ventura California and live in Ojai Ca, I've had minimal repairs on it it currently has 302k miles on it and it doesn't miss a beat. However as the miles rack up it gets more concerning about break downs on long trips. My son and I went to Virginia City up the 395, on our way home we left at 2am in the morning I have to say I was a bit concerned I didn't want to break down with my son at 4am in the morning and not knowing the area.
I think there's a good argument for the 3.0 Duramax in the GM 1500 trucks. Excellent highway and city fuel economy. I'm routinely getting 30-33 on the highway and 29-30 commuting to work in mixed driving. Plus it's 60% more efficient towing my toy hauler than a gas 1/2 ton. Still more expensive to maintain though. (I'm biased since I own one)
Gassers are great for those guys who just drive around a big pickup to look cool while getting groceries and occasionally pull a trailer. If you want massive power for towing, diesel is the way to go
Trucks are expensive! No matter what way you wing it, if you want it to last it takes work.
Just did a steering rack, CV axel joint, tie rod ends, sway bar ends, radiator, full fluids, plugs, rotors, calipers, brakes all in one month. But damn is it worth it.
My first diesel is a 15 gmc 2500hd denali.....I'm happy with it I still don't really understand the difference between a 2500hd diesel vs gas
A lot of people who buy diesel trucks don't need one. Cost to buy and maintain a diesel is much higher. What it really comes down to is if you haul with it or not, and if you plan on putting 400k or 500k miles on it. The gas engine won't last as long as the diesel, but if you plan on keeping it only 150k, it doesn't matter. Any gas engine is usually reliable up to and beyond 250k really. So if you're not hauling regularly, diesel is a waste. But, the 6.7 is one of the quietest diesel engine out there, so much better than a lot of older diesels. The 7.3 gas engine sounds like a great engine from what I've heard so far. Probably a better choice for a lot of people. No shame in owning gas engines, as long as they do what you need them to.
That power stroke impression is spot on haha
finding a gasoline pump while pulling a 37’ fifth wheel is a real PITA
The biggest reason for me is cost. Although the 6.7 is bullet proof.
The Cummins is by far better than the Ford.
@@triggeredNW Cummins are great engines but Ram trucks are trash!
@@triggeredNW not really
@@MrAppltec not so bro ,most every hot shot runs ram !
@@andrewslagle1974 not because they like Ram… it’s because they like Cummins
Even as a desil guy, 12 valve second gen he makes a good point 😂
Best thing about owning a diesel? If your buddies catch you crying about something you’ve got something easy to blame it on.
As a shop owner an automotive technician of 30+ years I completely agree. I bought the 7.3 gas.
I would say you are wrong and right, if deisels were old school with mechanical injector pumps, glow plugs and no computer then the deisel is the way to go, but now i agree with you, buy a gasoline engine instead. They dont make bullet proof deisel anymore. I suppose if you got a 6BT from the 90's and installed it in an old F250 or Silverado 2500 would be good idea.
100% agree
The EPA complaint diesels are all junk basically
We have a Ford 7.3L Godzilla engine box truck now. Works perfect
Our mechanic said no one makes a reliable Diesel anymore thanks to the EPA rules. Just buy a 7.3L. So that’s what we’re doing.
So once the old Mitsubishi Fuso dies it will be a gas unit.
As a business it comes down to economics
Ego doesn’t matter it’s about up time
A 7.3L is the best bang for the buck for construction etc
There a few uses in which a diesel and it’s power is required very few.
So unless you need the power get the 7.3l simple / reliable/ fast mechanic turn around on repairs
I love my old diesel but oh man, is it not fun spending tons of money fixing all the things that need help on the almost 30 year old car. Still, I will always enjoy it.
As someone who is from the UK, diesels were encouraged for fuel efficiency and environmental reasons then the government changed its mind and said it was the devil soo now we get taxed for going into certain cities"London" with diesels, I love a good old diesel, wish there were more petrol pickups and mid size SUVs in the uk though, but a 2.5TD is much more common and much cheaper in the UK
Also 2.5 is relatively a common size
💯 Agree. I went from GM Duramax to GM 6.6l Gas and haven’t looked back. DEF system is a diesel engine killer.
Dealing with the EGR cooler BS has been a pain, mine cracked and had to wait to get access to one for warranty repair.
Dude if you don't like the stick of diesel then wear rubber gloves
You’ll get more for a diesel with 200k than you will of the same gas f250 with 100k. You get 10-20k more (at least in this market) when you sell the truck. If you haul anything you’ll save money on fuel even with the extra $1 a gallon. The super duty engine will require less maintenance and repairs over the life of the truck. Unless you plan on plowing only and using the bed and never towing more than 7k a diesel is just better. I’d rather downgrade my trim to get a diesel than upgrade to get a gas
Now as far as I'm concerned diesel lasts longer in tanks etc than the synthetic gas/petrol, so when the SHTF might be better to have a diesel
Video starts at 01:36
Love those "V" sunglasses!
I wouldn't buy a modern diesel. The def/regen systems are expensive to maintain and they have a lot of issues. I work on big rigs. The def/regen systems are nothing but a headache and it is one more thing to put a strain on the engine. I do own a 1987 diesel truck. Runs great and i can work on it with ease. No turbo, no def/regen, or any other headaches with 2016 or newer diesels. Paid $12k for it two years ago. Other then fluids and filters nothing has been an issue. Full disclosure, it is a m998 Humvee with a 6.2l.
You might recoup the price if you never report an accident or have a breakdown.
So um…. Where do find that Ford front end conversion?
Unfortunately Ford has been plagued with death wobble from the factory. When they switched to front coils they never upgraded trackbar/ tie rod/ draglink. I test drove a 2022 Tremor with the 7.3 and almost broke my wrists. Be careful!!
Nothing beats an old 5 ton with a multi fuel Hercules motor
Only problem with the Godzilla and why it's not the best engine Ford ever produced is they took a page from the GM and Chrysler book and put those (not sure what Ford calls it) AFM lifters in that collapse and sometimes will take the cam out. I still think the AFM lifter problem still is better to deal with than the repair cost of owning a diesel. But I think if you are changing your oil every 3,000 miles ( I know they say you can go 7,000) you'll probably be fine, I mean it cost less to do an oil change than to fill up a tank of gas.
Screw the 7.3L gas.
I've got two 23 year old 7.3L diesels still going strong. I don't need a sparkly jet. I need to haul a flatbed of round bales for my livestock and I need to haul livestock. And those trucks somehow get better fuel economy with a loaded trailer than they do naked.
Love your vids sir and I traded my diesel for gas two years ago and man I save so much money. I loved my baby but she ate way to much. Lol but best content and you seem like a genuine guy. Keep up the good work sir. God bless
The EPA classifies diesel exhaust as “likely to be carcinogenic to humans.”
They don't catch fire as easily....that is enough for me.....
are you pulling heavy stuff for long distance regularly if yes diesel may be best if your carting the kids around going to work n like riding dirt toys gas should be all you need and 1 fuel for cars and toys is nice
U got it cody, act accordingly!
Flat bill says it all, no comment required for why you bought a gas engine over diesel.
I would never buy a newer truck in either Gas or Diesel .
Older trucks and rebuild it to what one wants .
It's called Ft Nelson aftershave. 🦨
I love diesels...but they are really impractical unless you plan on doing a lot of HEAVY towing, or, running some really big off road tires and you would rather spend extra on the engine than upgrading your differentials. Of course, we're talking HD Diesels. A "baby" Duramax, Eco Diesel, or the 5 liter Cummins for the Titan XD are a different story. Even so, I agree about fuel availability. Plus, I don't like cold starting issues. As far as the smell...it smells like...VICTORY!!!
I absolutely love my diesel gladiator. Super practical for me.
My 04 dodge diesel will start at -15 without being plugged in. My 95 chevy gasser wont start if its +20 unless its plugged in.
@@redrustyhill2 Bruh...it's a '95. That's totally uncommon. You've got compression issues, fuel injector issues or mixture issues. One thing you could try is disconnecting your oxygen sensors. The computer should go back to default values. One way you might know it could be the 02 sensors is if you put the pedal to the floor but get jerky acceleration. It might do it at high RPM's.
Your diesel starts at -15? Try that with a tank full of #2 Diesel. You'd better have some Diesel 911 on-hand. My point being, that you don't necessarily know what's in the gas station's tanks, especially at the beginning of the winter season. Even so, to the best of my knowledge, not all #1 Diesel is created equal. Different latitudes may add more or less kerosene to the mix. While that, practically, shouldn't cause any problems...
sometimes it does. Obviously, with a gas engine you don't have to be concerned. The fuel should be consistent, year-round, I would think.
"I don't like cold starting issues" is code for I don't understand how glow plugs work. You're supposed to wait until that little squiggly light goes out. That's the light that tell you the glow plugs are heating up. If you don't let them heat to temp, the engine won't start. Turn the key too many times and you'll food the engine and it won't start at all. Glow plugs take a little longer to heat up when it's cold. This is common sense.
@walterwhite2640 not all diesels have glow plugs, actually very few do anymore, and there is alot more issues in cold weather with diesel trucks than gas. Anyone who actually runs diesel powered equipment when its COLD will know that.
Here in New Zealand diesel costs 20% less than normal gas. Then it costs less to run a diesel engine over a petrol engine. I run an Isuzu D-Max and have found it very economical to run. I bought it new and have had no problems with it. Only things I've had to change are the brake pads, tires and oil.
The price of petrol in NZ is more than double the price it is in the US.
Love your channel. God bless you and your family!
haha in sweden its the opposit.
Gas 2.08 dollar/l
disel 2.35 dollar/l
yes sweden love taxes.
In sweden all new disel cars is also forced to come with adblue which means you need to add that to the coast and ontop of that the car actually dont need it but if it runs low they added a feature which kills the car until you fill it back up.
@@Nickerian91 One Us gallon = 3.7854118 liters so your paying around $8.80 a us gallon. I guess your country has some Inflation too, I buy fuel $2.75 a gallon here in the US. you do the math.
@@SuperTransmission Has nothing to do with inflation. they dont want people to use cars for the climate.
Man, I wish we got the same vehicles you get. Watching 4WD 24/7 videos on here and I'm always loving the damn trucks.
@@Nickerian91 People use cars because of the climate.
As a guy that owns a Ram with a Cummins diesel, I can say confidently that everything about owning a diesel is pricier. Maintenance, parts, service costs, and in some areas, fuel. I love my truck, but owning it truly is a labor of love, and it is certainly not for everyone.
That brakes/ball joints comment hit a little too close to home...lol
Man oh man.. I bought a 98.5 Ram 3500, 2wd, regular cab with the 5spd. Used it to haul cars and RVs back in the early 2k's. Engine treated me right, even though I drove it like a rental. Transmission and clutch were solid performers too. Wish I had the 6spd from time to time, but that 5spd was solid and never gave me any issues.
The front end though? Oh good lord. I replaced the entire front end on that truck every 100k miles or so. Ball joints, tie rods, pitman arm, steering box.. All of it was junk after 100k. 4 full rebuilds on that truck over the years. I'd absolutely do it all over again. It was solid and never left me stranded after I got rid of the VP44.
But I would 100% rather have my cummins then any gas truck
BUT YOU WILL SEE 1 MILLION MILES if you take good care of it. just saying , them rams will start to fall parts before the cummins lol. ill say go ram or go home. at least a hemi.
@@naimbeats I don't think you'll see that kinda mileage out of a modern diesel. They're too high strung to get the crazy power numbers out of them.
Just did brakes on my 3rd gen... 700$ later
When I bought my first diesel power stroke back in 01, the price of diesel was significantly less than regular unleaded. Also the fuel economy was much better! You actually could save money if you drove it enough miles. That truck is probably worth now what I paid for it then. The biggest reason not to buy a diesel now is the emissions equipment. Also, there is little to no sound difference anymore. I used to shut my truck off in a drive through just so I could hear the person talking to me.
Lol I still shut mine off at the drive thru. Not sure a muffler would make a difference or not. Most of the noise doesn't come out the exhaust unless you get on the skinny pedal.
@@consaka1 I have to shut mine off in drive thrus lol. The ones that I can fit in that is. 😐
Aeeee old 5.9 wake the block
@@kevinhanoomansingh3501 If im awake your awake
It helps the workers if you shut off the vehicle anyway
old diesel yes new diesel no. you will be hard pressed to find a gas engine that will take the abuse of a 12 valve 5.9 cummins.
That was indeed the last great American engine. I've wanted to do a 5.9 swap in my old Ford diesel for forever, but it's very expensive.
Toyota tundra 5.7
@@Not_Andrew_Huberman no lmao
My 2002 7.3L!
Has Just about 700K miles on it.
Original injectors.
Only major issue Was I smoked the trans 180K.
We Rebuilt it with all the upgrades including billet TQ.
Zero issues since
I have a 5.9 24 valve… Its a 2005, and its been a great truck!
It’s a shame what the EPA did to the diesel market. I was a SuperDuty diesel guy for 19 years and went to SuperDuty gas 2 years ago. No regrets at all.
Yes what the EPA did to diesels should be a crime
They are pretty filthy. With the tech we have they can be made to run clean.
@@user-wp5fe8ec6l that tech is a maintenance nightmare.
@@user-wp5fe8ec6l It's horse sh¡t propaganda.
70% of the world's oxygen comes from phytoplankton algae in the oceans. Trees and other plants contribute very little. More Co2 equals more oxygen.
Green house effect is a theory, not proven.
What is proven is that the earth goes through cooling and heating cycles, and we are in fact closer to the next ice age.
The earth will do what it wants to, whether humans are here or not.
What is an issue is China polluting our oceans, killing off marine life. If the oceans die, then we die. It's where most of our global food supply comes from, plus our largest supply of oxygen.
EPA is a scam.
Manufacturers can buy pollution points. EPA doesn't care, they just want money, it's the government.
You can literally buy them off.
@@saltysteel3996 we are talking about particulates and toxic rogue emissions. Total carbon content (CO and CO2 etc) of both petrols and diesels is roughly similar. Actually, diesels probably emit less total carbon per unit of work.
As for climate change.. it's just science and I'm not going to get into it based on an absurd irrelevant tangent (incidentally a silly strawman) to the subject at hand.
Fuel efficiency is often motivated by controlling net carbon output ie considering image change for real or optical purposes but controlling the cleanliness of emissions is usually done for their directly toxic nature and that's a real thing too if you've ever travelled. I live in the bush and tbh I wouldn't trade it for the city at all. I'm also an arborist and I appreciate using some kickass old saws from time to time but inhaling less fumes isn't such a bad thing, especially with a climbing saw in front of your face all day. I used it for a few minutes to do some rough carpentry in the house with a giant fan on and doors and windows open and covering over my face.. and I was sick as for the day heh
Wranglerstar today: “10 reasons I bought gas over diesel”
Wranglerstar in 18 months: “check out my new diesel”
Give it 18 months he will be out the closet he’s a ford owner
In 18 months he'll be telling us what a piece of crap that 10 speed tranny is...
Commenting in hopes I can see how well these comments age. :D
The main reason I don’t buy Fords is because I hate working on them compared to GM, and although my shop sees about the same amount of both brands of trucks come in it seems to me the Fords have more stupid problems whereas GM is regular wear
@@gizmosgadgets4146 how is changing sparkplugs on a Ford truck? What used to be the easiest job in mechanics they wont even quote you at a dealer now, because so many break off and have to be tapped out
Nailed it with the ego. Full display on the construction sites, sand dunes, camp grounds and the lake. 40 years ago people were pulling boats with a station wagon, now there is an $85k pickup pulling a $100k boat. That's crazy in itself but to each their own.
And the bank owns both...
Spot on!!!!
It’s so insanely common for young construction workers I know to have $1,500-2,000/mo truck payments, and yet some even live at home with their folks. They have zero clue how insane that is to anyone over the age of 35.
@@NevadaSmith2 it’s pretty insane to be spending a mortgage payment on a vehicle.
@@AsAugustSleeps I cannot fathom doing that. There are certain things, that if you have to go to such extreme terms to finance, well then, you simply aren’t rich enough to own said items. I hear of 15 year loans in wakeboard boats. That’s absurd! Especially for a boat! I can understand extending yourself a bit for a house, but not a damn fancy truck or boat or RZR.
We’ve all been there one way or another: “Don’t talk to me, I’m trying not to kill us.” And the wife: “You kids shush up, daddy’s gotta watch the road!”
Or on the other hand. ‘dont tell me to be quiet!’
She didnt last long
Diesel tech & diesel owner here… this guy was pretty on point with most of it 🤷🏽♂️ EXCEPT the noise & smoke, cmon mannnn lol that old “tearing itself apart” sound is beautiful!! Lol
Diesels were nice back in the hay, simple chunks of unstoppable metal. Now, they are way more complicated than gas, since all the emission tech has suddenly crept up and they are loaded with sensors and half-baked technology. One sensor goes out and the whole system fails.
Nah just delete and you’re good to go.
Back before 1994 w all mechaical stuff they’re great. Just change the oil every so often.
@@michaelbenoit248 my buddy bought a 93 7.3 for 2k and I kinda wanna buy a 4 door 92 but I just put in an a application for a 2019 ram and hoping they approve me
@@myststories2539 You need an application to purchase a car? What country is this in? I've never heard of filling out an application to purchase a vehicle. That's insane to me!
This!!
Some people need a diesel. Others don't. I drive a Ford F350 single wheel 4x4 with a gas engine. It pulls everything I want to pull with ease. That includes our 33 foot travel trailer. I haven't felt the need of a diesel. Additionally, when we're at our ranch in the Arizona White Mountains the nearest filling station does not have diesel. So, gas works best for us. On the other hand, I've got a contractor friend who pulls such heavy equipment all the time that a gas engine would not make sense. To each his own.
What’s a single wheel?
@@davidlittle611 some F350s, Ram 3500s and Silverado equivalents come with double wheels in the back, like 2 wheels per side of the axle. There's a Federal limit to how much weight you can put on a normal tire and it's more reliable in case one tire breaks.
@@vasilis23456 oh I get it. I’ve always called it a dually
As a diesel guy, everyone has their own reasons to own a truck. Not everyone needs a diesel. I own a 2005 5.9 Cummins to pull a 34' 5th wheel camper. I would only have own a diesel without emissions. I personally like the smell of diesel fuel.
I like the smell as well, has some sort of nostalgia to it
… i like the smell of diesel fuel as much as i like the smell of farts. 😜😂🤪
I have a diesel tractor. When I start it it stinks to high heaven. But after it warms up it's not so bad. Your story about the guy going to Detroit made me laugh.
@@hubes96 You are right you could, but why would I trade my truck in, that I already have to get a gasser. I personally wouldn't want to pull it with a gasser.
@@hubes96 it's all about torque and the gas engine just lacks it
You definitely made some valid points. Everyone has different needs and should purchase the vehicle that suits their needs. It always kills me though when I see people buying these giant trucks and they never use them for there intended purpose. People in Las Vegas are awful with that. Hey, let’s put on a lift and giant tires even though we never go off-road. I have a mid-size SUV now and it’s perfect for me. I’m also 6’4” and just don’t fit well in cars. Anyways, God bless you and yours and stay safe!
I’m exactly 6’4” tall. Do you mind if I ask what’s your suv?
Some people buy vehicles for their looks, not everyone buys a vehicle to be used for a specific purpose
Makes sense to me, over 400 bhp and over 400 ft pounds torque sounds more than enough. Love that story, can just picture the guy with the pistol scratching his head afterwards, wondering why it didn't have any effect hitting him over and over again as hard as he could, and saying "man, that guy must have an iron skull!":)
"Don't talk to me, I'm trying not to kill us". Lmao. Totally agree with the gasser. I'm a diesel guy since ice been a trucker for 35 yrs but the last pick up truck I was going to buy was a gas pot. Just couldn't justify the cost and up keep considering the usage I intended it for. Travel and camping. Because it would get no mileage through the week I didn't see the need as my daily was the companies semi.
The best reason to buy a diesel is the ability to make your own biodiesel with any vegetable oil or used motor oil in case something happens, and that something might happen any day now. Cant make your own gasoline at home though.
5grams of lie into .5 gallons of methanol, swish int a bottle, don’t close container as it will explode the cap off, swish until all lye is dissolved
-pour into 3 gallons of filtered waste veg oil, tightly cap, shake for a minute, release pressure cap off and on
-let sit for 3 days
-darkness is glycerin, will be at the bottom, pour off the biodiesel
I like the simplicity of this. I do think its best to use a seperatory funnel during the settling out of the glycerine. By opening a valve at the bottom you drain it off easily. It can then be washed in the funnel and allowed to settle again. Likewise, open the valve at the bottom and drain off the water. You'll be left with quality, clean biodiesel at the top which will not harm the engine you are using it in.
METHOD 2
10 liters of used oil, heat to 50-60c
Mix 2 liters methyl alcohol with potasium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide (add powder into liquid, not liquid into dry powder as it might explode) stir to dissolve for a while
Pour into hot oil slowly while mixing, stir for at least 15 minutes to 30 minutes, until clear
Pour into another container and let sit for a day or two, better when hotter,
Glycerine will settle, use a valve
Thank you for this comment
Ok smarty, how do you make your own Def fluid for these newer diesel truck ???
Point 9 “if you’re in California…… you have much bigger problems with lifestyle choices than fuel choices”.
1999 F350 with a 7.3 Liter Diesel engine in mine. Almost at 400k miles. Starts every time, no smoke and runs nicely. I hope to turn the odometer over in it. I love my truck but I understand the gas engine argument... to each his own.
I only have 235000 on my 7.3 diesel in my 02 f250. I kinda like the noise🙂. I did have to put glow plug in it at about 210000. Her in my part of Alaska diesel is 3.35 a gal and gas 3.55 and its tough to find even a small middle of nowhere station up here that doesnt have diesel. I will admit, for 90% of my miles an old 302 gas engine would work just as well, but for the other 10%? The old 7.3 PS is perfect.
I think the real decision making factor is what the trucks every day purpose is going to be.
I've owned 12 diesel trucks in my 52 years. So I am definitely a diesel guy. Very good points. But you missed number 10. Number 10 or really number 1 is the new freaking DEF fluid you have to put in.
You can always tune and delete them
Outside of California :/ @@Baptistbowhunter
Oh right. DEF. Yeah. That stuff in the reservoir.... in... the engine part. Yep. Totally do that. 💯
Is there a way to get around the def fluids?
@@roedurham3499 tune and delete
Basically you did what’s right for you and your family in the environment you live. Totally understand….
"Don't talk to me, I'm trying not to kill us" haha good to know I'm not the only one that gets a little terse when the driving conditions go into the dumpster.
Oh...it's getting deep on the West Coast!
Global warming! Remember Gore told us Colorado would be the new coast in 13? years? That was over 20 years ago. I'm staying in the Midwest! ;o)
I had no doubt that the west coast would see the start of bad things coming. God Bless y'all folks and goodluck
@@johnpyle8027 Hopefully the Great Lakes don’t drowned us out 😂
@@leswilliamson3587 Don't you mean the East Coast, with all its population density, compared to anything west of the Mississippi? Just take a look at a picture from space at night of the U.S. All the population density is in the eastern half.
@@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953 Haha, he use to have a 12v he paid like 5 bucks for.
Durability used to be one of the things with Diesel engines. With the horsepower/torque arms race they’ve turned them into race engines that need to be heavily maintenanced at about 100k miles. I’m in for Godzilla my next truck. From a 7.3 to a 7.3.
Emissions junk doesn't help either. And diesel costing more than gas doesn't help either.
@@gorkyd7912they should come up with a diesel hybrid instead of this full electric stuff
Finally, someone was honest about those diesels. 99 % of those who have them DO NOT NEED them. And what a PITA they are today. Back in the day, the operation costs were negligible because diesel fuel was cheaper, and no DEF fluid. Thanks again Cody foe being honest
I mean... most people could get by with a prius or a bicycle... how far are we going to go with this logic'? lol
@@brianthompson9485 yep
So only 1% of people that have them use them for what they’re intended? Yeah I don’t think so boss
@@brianthompson9485 you nailed it lol, have a duramax and a Prius 😂😂😂😂
Nah. If you want one you’ll just get one. I don’t get how people think you have to have a need for something to have it. You don’t need anything. If you want something go get it. Everything I own is diesel even my car. Easier to work on for me. Longer lifespans. Can tow if I need to too and over 25mpgs in everything and the tdi gets over 50 so to each their own I guess.
To each their own, it's sad to see diesels wracked by emission systems, they could be absolute monsters getting insane levels of power with minimal fuel consumption and instead we have the special olympics of trucks, I sure hope common sense prevails
Common sense won't prevail. It's already gone forever. Diesel, fossil fuel lowered vehicles are being phased out already. Well be lucky to be able to buy a gasoline or diesel truck by 2030.
This isn't a re-hash of current conspiracies. I am a product development for one of the major American commercial vehicle manufacturers here in United States. Believe me when I say this.........all combustion engines are going away. On top of that, we won't be allowed to operate our vehicles ourselves anyway.
This is not something I'm happy about. It makes me sick working for a company that is going along with this energy transfer. I've been preparing financially to be able to quit helping the effort for the last couple of years.
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 electric may be the future but it's not here, and there are plenty of uses and users that won't allow for electric it'll take a lot to take the steering wheel from me
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 if things continued on the old trajectory, you would be right. It's not going to. Electricity is going to be very hard to come by, unreliable and expensive soon. The World economy is currently crashing. The very old gas trucks without computers will be the ones still running.
True, could say the same about petrol, far better compression ratio with there was lead in it.
But as another TH-cam said, they had to take it out because it was killing seal and upsetting lesbians.
@@owendodman3037 I'm with you on that. I own three vehicles and the newest one is 26 years old. I'll fight with everything I have before going along with the new plan
Cody, I greatly respect the way you approach the sensitive topics... gas vs diesel, east coast vs west coast, etc... keep up the good videos! P.S. I love my Cummins and I have had all the big 3 brands gas and diesel. It all boils down to personal preference and what you're using it for. God Bless and good luck on getting the shop done before the snow flies!
The big reason I have a diesel, I am a certified diesel tech. I know how to work on it, I know where to get good parts. That’s my reason to own it. Plus my 5.9 Cummins is just fun.
You're not wrong, Evan
2005 Cummins 5.9
6 speed manual with manual transfer case and I did the manual front hub Dana 60 style swap. It’s getting older but with cost of trucks- I’m just going to maintain it and pass it down.
@@Upliftyourbrothers I have basically the same truck. But an '06. It is the last of the good diesels. AZ truck with zero rust and under 120k miles. It is the newest diesel I will own, and definitely a keeper.
I'm in the same position, except my certification came from TH-cam. :D I have a 6.0 Powerstroke, and the only way I can justify keeping it is that I'm able to do the repairs myself. If I had to take it to a mechanic, it'd break the bank. I don't need a truck that big, and especially not a diesel, but like you, my diesel is just fun! When it's running that is... on that note, I gotta go work on my truck (and I'm not kidding).
The 5.9 is my favorite engine. God bless you and have a great day friend
“Don’t talk to me…I’m trying not to kill us.” That actually made me laugh out loud! 😂🤣
Same I've been there. Shite old 2003 Kia Carnival on very narrow very bendy roads with pretty much steep 45 degree shoulders directly from the side of the road, I was gripping and concentrating harder than I have in my life.
Ya that was funny cause we've all been like that before.
Nothing beats the old 6bt 12v Cummins, all mechanical easy to tune and will run far longer than any gas engine. Plus no emissions and very easy to work on compared to these new computer operated trucks and cars. 1990’s best generation for any car!
Love me the sound of a properly tuned 12 valve
Agree… the problem is all the metal surrounding that great motor tends to disappear.
Specifically, the "P pump" version(P7100 injection pump)
@@anichols5845 I've heard Cummins Dodges described as a _100 dollar engine in a 10 cent truck_
Yes sir...97 12 valve owner here. I get 22mpg empty and about 12-14 towing. Best engine ever put in a pickup.
I love how it’s the exact opposite where I live. Petrol is hard to find in remote areas and if u can find it it’s super expensive. And everyone Ik loves the smell of diesel
Cody, you could have also might have mentioned all the infuriating emmissions equipment on new diesels. That alone will scare your average guy off
its killing the reliability of newer diesels adblu pump failures and egrs giving up dont matter what make of truck its on
I have both diesel and gas engine trucks for my business and we may switch to all gas because of constant issues with the emissions on the diesels.
I have had zero problems with my ram diesels but after warranty runs out i delete them, no problems then!
Cody, Here in the UK, the push for many years was 'Go diesel'. The fuel was cheaper, with the introduction of Turbo Diesel engines they were no comparative to petrol engines and it was supposed to be better for the environment. Fast forward 10 years. The emission laws and catalytic converters just make owning a diesel very expensive. The emission regulators are always going wrong and cost a small fortune to repair/replace. Your Cat has to be replaced or (if you're lucky) cleaned and they are very expensive, to the point that they are now regularly stolen off vehicles by criminals who scrap them for the precious metals inside. Then the price of diesel went up, so that it is now either the same or slightly more expensive to petrol. To top it all, the UK Government have now stated that they intend to phase out diesel cars over the next 10 years - why would go diesel for a family vehicle, in this day and age.
If the government is telling you they want to phase out diesel, then you can expect the same for the future for gas. Long story short, whatever the government says... do the opposite.
Was gonna add a few things for the new diesels. Both good and bad that you missed. New diesels run way quieter then the old ones due to their fuel injection strategy and they their exhaust is cleaner. With that in mind the drawback to this in repair costs you didn't mention was the failures of the DPF system in the exhaust and EGR cooler problems. Those alone are costly to replace and with the EPA going rogue with everything even beyond diesels it's extremely illegal to delete any of these emissions devices off of the truck. Also there is the diesel fuel prices and for what small mpg gain there is on these diesel trucks its not enough to offset the cost of the fuel. It's simply too costly to own a Diesel truck entirely in 2023.
I own the diesel version of your truck, color and all. I have a farm in the Appalachian hills and haul equipment, livestock and horses constantly over long distances. I appreciate the extra power and fuel economy and my truck is very quiet in the cab. I don't regret buying my truck but I often question if the 7.3 would have been a better option for many of the reasons you stated.
Your story reminded me of my dad.. My grandfather owned a chevy dealership in the 50's and he would take my dad with him to the train station four hours away to pick the cars up and drive them back. Each would drive a car back. My dad was twelve and times were very different.
“Don’t talk to me I’m trying not to kill us” was wondering if I was the only one to say that. Nowadays if I think anything could go badly sideways I leave the wife and kids at home.
I don't know about Your Ford, but with the Powerstroke; if You need major work done on the engine, You have to raise the cab.
Tell me you don’t know what your talking about, without telling me you don’t know what your talking about lmao.
Lifting the cab takes 30 minutes
they do that everytime my grandpa takes his f450 to the dealership shop. other shops might not every time.
On the older 6.0L & 6.4L this was true, the newer 6.7L don't need the cab lifted to do most repairs. Basically, if you have to pull the cab on the 6.7L, you would have to do it on the gas engine too.
@@lamarbeachler7738
Wow. I need you in my shop. My guys wannamake it into long drawn out ordeal
As a 6.7 diesel super duty owner, I completely agree with all your points and if the 7.3 stands the test of time it will be in my next truck but at the time of my purchase the 6.2 was the only gas option ... beautiful truck bud and thanks for the great content !
I can remember when the Ford powerstroke first came out all the general contractors had to have one and they were so loud that you couldn't even talk to each other at the drivers door until they turned the truck off because they were so loud. Like you said, they were always in the dealerships getting something fixed too. Another thing to consider is Oil and filter changes. Twice the price on a diesel. Plus fuel filters need changed all the time too. Also not cheap.But its hard to beat an Allison transmission behind a Cummins in line 6 for longevity that for sure.
Your comment is confusing, are you talking about a Cummins swapped truck? Allison’s don’t come behind Cummins from the factory. Also IHI was second to best to Cummins for quite a long time. Navistar built the 7.3 power stroke very well, one of the most reliable engines ever produced, I find it hard to believe they constantly had problems when powerstroke was first introduced in ‘94, I’m at 415k original engine, Pump, injectors, glow plugs. Oil changes are expensive, but fuel filters are cheap and don’t need to be changed as often as you think.
Oil changes are about twice the cost but we also have to change ours half as often. Most gas engines are 5-7,500 mile changes my Cummins is 15k all of my filters oil and both fuel filters are the same and cost 50. It’s all in what you need or want. That’s why they make different things. I’m a Cummins guy I won’t own another ford anything.
I agree with your list unless like you said, you need the power. I routinely toe a 28’ trailer at about 26,000lbs. I also didn’t want to spend 100k on a truck so I bought an older power stroke and rebuilt the entire motor myself and I couldn’t be happier. Super clean truck and rinds great. One thing you might think about though is I store about 2,000 gallons of diesel most of which I bought at under 3.50 a gallon and that diesel will keep for a min of a decade! You simply can not store gasoline for any period of time. Also tuned for mileage I get 26mpg when I’m not towing.
The new Ford 10 speed transmission is amazing. That same truck in diesel will tow 50,000lbs.
Nice truck BTW!
Very helpful comment. So if you are worried about SHTF you can store diesel at home. I didn’t know that.
Wrangler star, I agree with most of your points. I have a 2006 dodge Cummins that gets 19-24 mpg empty. My diesel is simple and easy to maintain like your 7.3 gas engine which you can actually see completely, unlike the 6.7 Ford diesel that fills the entire engine bay fender to fender. Modern diesel emissions are a nightmare to maintain and repair. Additionally when repairs are needed you don’t know if the mechanic is simply firing the “parts cannon” at a problem he really doesn’t understand at your big expense!
A couple years ago I did a rough cost of ownership calculation between the gas and diesel trucks going out to 100k miles. It seems like they ended up coming out roughly the same. You pay up front for the diesel and get it back on the sale. The improved mileage offsets the cost of diesel and maintenance assuming you don’t encounter major mechanical issues with either one. The biggest thing that keep me from seriously considering a 7.3 gas was the small fuel tank at the time. I don’t know if they’ve added the option for larger gas tank but at the time the range was abysmal in comparison to the diesel. Second, it’s a Ford. I spent years working on both Ford and Dodge trucks as well as owning both. Still can’t talk myself into owning a Ford. High repair costs are definitely not only a Ford problem but looking under the hood of a 6.7 power stroke vs 6.7 Cummins and it’ll be obvious which one is going to cost more to repair. Ford seems to hide expensive failure prone components in hard to access locations. We’d spend a day doing a job on a Ford that might take a couple hours hours on a Dodge.
I know it isn’t a truck, but didn’t the Dodge Intrepid require removing the wheel well to change the battery?
Chevy equinox Diesel ⛽ lol
Except the only good part in a Dodge is the motor they don't even make. Dodge transmission computer has left the chat.
Got a fellow Pipeliner friend that traded his 6.7 350 for the Godzilla. Ended up ditching his fifth wheel because the gasser couldn't handle the declines.
My Dad is retired Ford assembly line worker. Even with the discount, I hesitate to buy another Ford truck. My last was a 2010 F150 XLT 4x4 with the 5.4l. Two exhaust manifold replacements at $2800 each. One rear differential at $1800. A 4x4 control system swap from vacuum to electric at $600 because the stock system kept failing and chewing up the hubs. Two sets of front wheel bearings as well.
These days full size Ford pickups are priced waaaaaay too high and they come with a whole mess of options that I have no use for. I currently drive a low miles 2003 GMC 2500HD with the 6.0l. Aside from a squeaking crew cab door, I have had zero problems. All I have added is aftermarket bluetooth radio and rear backup camera.
When they make a dually gasser to haul an 18,000 pound fifth wheel, I MIGHT consider a heavy duty gasser!
They do. His truck would pull it . They work.
Buy a big rig then and not a pickup truck to pull 18 000lbs, just because it can on paper does not mean it is a reasonable thing to do.
Have a fuel tanker follow you 👍