Hey Greg. All of these tips helped me overcome the anxiety of downhill corning to the right. Especially blind corners, which had me slowing way too much. Delay turn in, look as far ahead as possible and let the corner come to me…now it’s a blast, thanks!! 👍👍
he's got great canyon carving videos, at least 2 that are both extremely detailed and 20+min long of cornerporn, up and down the mountain, over and over to drill in the technique for uphill and downhill
If you are anywhere near the Blueridge Parkway, you'll have 400 miles of exactly that. Incredible road that has a bazillion of those exact same corners.
I been a motojitsu member so long that I noticed you went from drawing paper on your kitchen table to a dry erase board in your garage. Thank you for everything you do. You still the same greg who is a motorcycle instructor who makes motorcycle videos. Amazing 👏
As a new on road rider (I've rode dirt bikes, 3-wheelers and 4-wheelers off road nearly my whole life) I have learned SO MUCH from this channel as well as Dandanthefireman and even FortNine. So when I'm riding or going around a curve, I will look out as far as I can see to check there is nothing out there I need to worry about and to look for my line, but mostly I'm looking at least 3 car lengths or so in front of me while every once in a while checking closer in front of me just to double check there's nothing in the road I might have missed. I'm doing this at the same time that my eyes are scanning from side to side checking for any side roads or driveways where cars may be coming out of and looking for that dangerous silhouette of the side of a vehicle that would make me have to pay closer attention to it in case I need to slow down/stop, swerve or change my path of travel. I also check left, right then left again when going through an intersection and I treat blind hills as if they were intersections as well since they block your line of sight and so I'll slow down some and cover my breaks, maybe even take up the slack on the break lever until I am able to see over the hill and can see that it's clear. It's definitely a LOT of mental and visual gymnastics, but it IS getting easier to do as I am building up good habits and muscle memory. I'm always trying to pay attention to what's going on around me and NOT just straight in front of my forks.
Hello Greg, greetings from Athens, Greece. I ride for a little more than one year with a 300cc bike. You 've learned me almost anything I know about motorcycle riding. You 've opened a whole new world. I' ve read total control, participated in riding schools, try to practice as often as I can with motojitsu exercises and I see that my riding level and knowledge is actually better than people that ride for years. Most important, I know what i should be aware of and how many (MANY) things I need to improve and learn. Thanks for everything!
I love how your eyes really do what your saying and look through the corner instead of just talking and looking at the camera. You’re really visualizing what you’re talking about and showing us what we’re supposed to be looking at and finding out target and exit points! Thanks
Hi Fast Eddie,I took delivery on my 2020 Fat Boy 114 yesterday, today was my maiden voyage. Back in January I became a Pre-Loader with the cop, Robert Simmons, “Trust & Believe.” Then in June I found you with a full head of hair, now I am snooping around your Master Classes. I got through chapter four in “Total Control 2nd Edition,” more videos on turning and being the Boss of my Friction Zone and Front Break. Then I got your app for my Note 9 and my iPad Pro. Phenomenal app! I put on my SS Helmet, (SS stands for Sub Surface Warfare), gloves, Sedici jacket, and touring pants. I looked straight, bars straight, found the friction zone, covered my foot break and lifted my left foot as I rolled down my driveway over the trench to a right turn. My neighbor, a rider, saw me do 5 donuts to the left then 5 to the right and leaning into the four turns on our circle/court, then I took off down the road. She said, “Your ready for Bike Week! Are you sure this is your first time?” Down shifted and duck walked my first U-ie, 😂 On the fifth U-ie I wasn’t able to stay on the road even in lock, but I locked the fork through the turn on the grass. A garbage truck was approaching, I forced myself not to look as they cheered me on. On my fourth jaunt off my court, down the road I kept my feet on the boards, road the grass and jetted back to my house…all on my FIRST BIKE! I’m scheduled for the Harley Academy in two weeks. Now I’m going to earn my White Belt. Thank you for all you do and the top shelf instruction you give. ET1(SS/SW/MTS) USN, Ret.
I took my MSF this weekend and locked up the front tire on a straight into a 180⁰ curve, made a beautiful recovery at 25mph. Made the curve and was less aggressive on braking and then trusted the bikes capabilities the rest of the day. Passed all testing later in the day. Funny thing about this whole class was the fact that I was the slowest to get steady on straights for day 1 but ended up being class leader for all exercises by the end of the day and all of day 2. Money well spent for never having ridden a powered bike, I'm definitely going to go back after I feel confident to take the next level of training classes.
Amazing how you keep making fresh content while you have already covered so many things! I had a course last weekend wich had mid corner stops, 90 mph emergency stops and just straight on track riding. I had an amazing basic level due to your video's and training i did because of it! During this course I finally practiced using the front brake more and got really comfortable trailbraking. Thanks!
Your videos teach me so much - thank you! Lol... on a side note, in the past the track intimidated me because people were so fast in my class that I felt out of place and slow. Now I ride at the pace that I’m comfortable with and don’t worry about what people are doing behind me. A no crash day is a great day!
I'm lucky to have found this video, thanks! Putting the bike into Winter storage shortly, and need to revisit it (the vid) next Spring. 45 years of riding and never aware of these excellent turning techniques and mental approach. Again, thanks for putting this info out to us, could be saving lives.
Spot on advice. Having a known stretch of road to practice on is invaluable. Go out and ride it over and over, knowing the road will allow u to find tune ur skill sets
Interesting what was "instinct" during my 20s, after a life since 5th grade of dirt bikes, 3-wheelers, and 4 wheelers, and riding on the road was natural..Fast forward 15 years of not riding, and I way slow down on corners and forgot my "instinct". Thank you for providing all the vids you do. I am definitely more concerned about gear before and learning what I thought wouldn't go away...
I'm in my 40's and just returned to motorcycling after about a 6-7 year layoff, just discovered your channel and It's the best skill teaching I've ever seen. I bet you've saved a few lives by now, you're doing Gods work here on TH-cam:) Do you recommend any schools in California around Ventura or LA county for riders to sharpen and learn skills.
I was on a training course on a track and maintenance throttle was not really explained. They did mention rolling off throttle for lean but not maintenance. I was on third session so I was getting cocky. went into a corner too fast for my comfort level so I just rolled off throttle leant over more, I stayed off the throttle because I didnt understand maintenance throttle. low sided my brand new r6 :-) P.S I have only recently found your videos, the way you explain everything is brilliant. I'm a better and more importantly a safer rider. Thanks
Oh wow I've just watched 'why your over slowing corner entry' I had that same feeling at the weekend ,I said to hubby I could have gone round that corner quicker ? Because I'm now learning to corner correctly (or should I say a lot better) and having just watched another of you cornering videos , I really get it .Hubby trys to explain and I watch him as we go round corners ,to follow his line , but I'm not quite there yet.As you say more practice required.Thank you so much MotoJitsu .I know I'm going to achieve my goal of being a better rider 😊❤
Had the time of my life on my RG Ultra doing the Tail of the Dragon. Hard acceleration to the curve, hard braking into the turn, and haul ass out of the turn. 11 miles that felt like it took about 5 minutes. Just awesome :)
I seriously needed this video. I've caught myself doing this on sharper corners on the back roads. This video will help big time. Any time I mess up riding or feel like I didn't do something well, I come to your channel or open your book. Any advice on Round-abouts/traffic circles? I know when I first started riding they were intimidating.
I believe that you are one of the most contagious online motorcycle teachers, unfortunately I live in Greece otherwise I would be your daily student and most likely you would be my best friend.. regards from Kos island (Greece)
I can't believe I found this amazing channel from a hot ones video!!! I've had 3 horrible fuxt up motorcycle wrecks... I really wished I had watched these videos in my early 20s lol.
Watched this video before going out to play today. Shorter ride (it is getting colder in Germany after all), but I did manage to apply these tips in the twisties. Just like you said, one variable at a time. I remember how intimidating the roads and curves around where I live used to be. Now I am simply looking forward to having fun and practicing what you share with us. Thanks so much, Greg!
I went from a 1974 Ducati 750-GT to a 2002 BMW R-1150-RS.They ride much differently. The Ducati could corner by simply leaning as I entered and then adjust my line by steering. The BMW wanted to hold it's line more, and needed more counter-steering to get into and out of the corner.
I had a huge distraction once on a curvy road. (someone passed me on a one lane road) I looked at him and just about went straight off the road. I whipped my head to the right and my bike followed. SAFE!! Because I instinctively did what I had practiced over and over and over
Those are honestly excellent tips, but im gonna be honest with my idiocy here and say that one tip that just changed the world for me was that the bike will stay leaned over after the countersteering input. That just for some reason made me a whole lot confident and let me narrow down what i have to do after tipping in, now i can actually focus on cornering and throttle control
WHAAAAAT?! video done in multiple cuts? Lol. Thanks for the video Greg. Going too slow approaching corners is one of my problems and it causes me to build anxiety about what I need to do, but also, in my head I'm like 'man, I'm going way too slow. I must look stupid.'
Thanks new rider and this really helps just trying to join the dots! Thinking Its a speed problem but after watching u its braking about me getting comfortable with braking!!
I actiually learned something form a physics paper about countersteering the other day, and that is you are ALWAYS counter steering, even when you do not have your hands on the steering wheel at all, even then through motions of your body, you countersteer, if you wanna turn right, the motion of your body first turns the steering wheel to the left a little and then to the right, you are always countersteering even if you do not touch the steering wheel at all, because that is the only way to initiate a lean.
Thanks for the tips, I only ride 125cc bikes in the UK. I recently changed from a supermoto style to a race style bike and have noticed I'm slowing down way more on corners than I used to so I'll give these tips a try.
Another great, one Greg. As much as I enjoy listening to music when I ride, I have to shut down my Bluetooth in order to concentrate better when I venture out of my comfort zone and have to think my way through a situation. This applies to both twisters and off road.
Moto jitsu I'm a new rider got a triumph 1200 rs and I use my brakes all the time and use all your tips and we have very tight bends I UK like snake pass etc
Hey Motojitsu! You have the BEST content regarding beginner motorcycle learning and techniques. Thank you sincerely as a new rider. I'm having trouble with accidental whiskey throttle during right turns from a stop.. can you make a video on that? Lots of accidental whiskey throttle compilations on YT but no informative videos.
Great tips. I would suggest one more possible reason for overslowing: going in to the corner at a gear lower than you should/could. You might be able stay in 4 gear, trail brake a bit, and accelerate out of a corner smoothly. If you go into the corner in 3rd gear instead, now you're having to deal with unnecessary engine braking, and having to get into maintenance throttle earlier, and revving up your engine into high rpms to exit the corner. It feels like a lot of unnecessary drama.
I think confidence with the brakes is key. I ride a lot in the Swiss alps, really high up, with huge drops that sometimes are quite scary. I add an extra safety margin in terms of speed there. Riding these types of roads helped me overcome anxiety, building up trust in my bike‘s brakes. But honestly, I still have both, good and bad days. On bad days good cornering just does not work out for me, so I just go slow and easy. There is never enough practice, as you rightfully keep teaching.
Thank you Moto Jitsu - again precise, logical and well broken down. Very much appreciate the effort you put into this to help us all. I'll shut up and practice now
I'd like to see you do something like this, but explaining the difference between cornering "going uphill" vs "going downhill." Great videos BTW. Cheers from Melbourne, Australia.
Because I haven't taken advanced classes, the concept of "maintenance throttle" in a corner is new to me. It makes sense, but it's one of those split-second judgement or finesse issues that you know when it's right, it feels so fine and smooth, but because of road variability, unless you're frequently on the same road, it may be difficult to get exactly right every curve on an unfamiliar road.
Cornering has always been a mixture of enjoyment, fear and frustration for me. But this video has at least given me greater understanding of my weaknesses. Hopefully now I can improve. I'm 62 years old now. Can I still improve or will fear take over. I really don't know but here's hoping
Hi very good content to boost confidence, I’ve been riding for about 45 years and in the 70s you had to learn yourself as no Internet, except now you can get to much advice so can get confusing for any rider. If I was starting out again I would have definitely entered more track days mainly to safely understand the limitations of the bike and understand how important suspension settings are. I’ve had some very fast bikes in my time ( fireblade, hayabusa, milli r, ) to name a few, but at 64 I’ve come to realise it’s not all about pinning the throttle back between bends, it’s about control and consistency.To fast into a bend can slow your exit, but even I still admit to making mistakes even on roads I do every weekend. ( maybe old age )
6:12 - “… I have to downshift because they overslowed”… Laughs in 1000cc, going 20mph in 6th gear and still no stall 😎 Excellent video Greg! It should be in the mandatory curriculum of the basic rider’s classes in order to get the license!
Mr. MotoJitsu, thank you so much for another great informative video. I enjoy and have learned so much from your content and practicing it as well too. Anytime I meet a new or existing rider who seem hungry to learn proper techniques of riding, I always mention you and that they definitely should go watch and learn. Ride Safe and keep uploading amazing videos. P.S. I just watched your Rapper video... Love it, Rapper Fast-Eddie
I figured out the maintenance throttle part real quick. The counter steering, I can't tell if I've used it, or not. I'm probably gonna practice in a parking lot when I get the chance.
I slow down before cornering too much because I don't feel comfortable leaning too far. I became a better rider since November when I almost ran wide into a car moving in the opposite direction. This is when it started and I am still a little too conservative in entry speed. And I'm talking about city riding.
I’ve been practicing good, always actively counter steering, to the point that the technical aspect of road riding is a joke even one handed. But even being active and precise with counter steering at all times, and having little trouble getting to max lean angle in parking lots; it was still jarring how much pressure it takes to counter steer once I started cornering above comfort level to learn. The bike resists leaning the faster you’re moving, and if you don’t push harder and keep your eyes ahead it’s an easy way to panick and fixate wide. Eyes on exit, _light_ brake pressure, counter steer through. Remembering that saved my ass. Trying to brake hard for entry, trail off as you counter steer, and have a good corner is a lot to do at once. Get used to one thing at a time and think about fundamentals during the turn
Novel thought, use the race line on a racetrack; try using the corner limit point to help identify if your speed is appropriate for that bend. Too many people ride on dipped headlights rather than main beam for vision ahead.
@@MotoJitsu If, the limit point is moving towards you slow down (or even god forbid brake) if it is moving away from you increase speed. If it is static, in relation to you, then your speed is correct for that bend. However always plan for the furthest point you can see, not the first bend but the last one.
None of that makes sense...you don't just brake because of those situations or increase speed...it sounds like you're quoting bumper stickers of things that been said for a long time that are highly inaccurate. I highly suggest signing up for ChampU. The online courses by Yamaha Champions Riding School instructors who are professional racers who also ride on the street. Ridelikeachampion.com you also get a discount through me MotoJitsu.com/courses
@@MotoJitsu Bit difficult as I'm in the UK. There are occasions when people go far to fast into bends, especially experienced riders who believe that braking is some kind of failure. Everyone makes mistakes or misjudges occasionally. If, you are in the right gear, speed and correct position then you will get round the corner safely. If the limit point is moving away from you, then you can increase speed (or chase the limit point). The challenge is making sure it doesn't tighten up, but that comes down to forward planning.
Out of all 22 courses I've been through (20 of them being higher level courses above the basic training), not one of them ever mentioned limit point and to me it's more confusing than anything and isn't a technique to learn nor does it make any sense to me. but do as you will.
I think we all counter steer,but Not actively.I am guilty of over slowing, and it’s magnified when I review Gopro footage of the ride. I can see that I have not looked far enough ahead,or through the corner ‘where you want to go’ . Here in 🇬🇧 if a corner has a history of riders crashing ,the authorities paint 6’ letters SLOW ,on the road. When in fact it’s an easy corner, just taken incorrectly with target fixation 👍
Great points, ever since I installed my autoblipper on my r6 , I just roll off the throttle and downshift instead of touching the breaks when entering a corner. Not sure if this is a bad habit or just a preference thing
THIS RIGHT HERE is good teaching vs riding, but if I were you lesson one here on white board, switch to riding to demo, back to class lesson two, switch to riding demo of lesson two and back to classroom for lesson three. This would be a good “dual method” approach would work well I think because the classroom tells us what to expect without the scenery distraction, and then instantly showing the equivalent ride along and back to class would be really good. Because you are doing the ride along approach vs muted engine with voice over. Class explains the up coming ride along. Ride along shows lesson and back to class. Muted voice overs feel like presenter talking about someone else’s ride not theirs. This would be a good series for teaching because your comes are tiny to see in the camera and your parking lots don’t have lines on the ground. So in the classroom draw route through the exercise then switch to parking lot. I think this method would reach more riders who learn one method over the other. An old Chinese saying I remember goes like this. Tell me I forget, show me and I remember, but involve me I understand. This dual method gets them to the remembering point and practice will help them understand. Look forward to seeing this method in action as I think you would reach more people doing that. Try it out.
New rider here, great video, thanks, I'll try it today! A problem I have is trying to brake and rev-match my downshifts at the same time. I brake, then I have to release the brake to rev-match, then continue braking etc. I've learned heel-toe braking in my car, but don't quite have the technique down for a bike...can you show us how it's done?
welcome. You don't have to rev-match, especially as a new rider...it's not something to think about or worry about at all. I have a video on it but no need to do that at all. It's like trying to juggle 10 balls at once when you're not good at doing 5 yet.
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 yes it does! Thank you so much!! And what advice would you give for braking - coming to a traffic light stop, emergency braking etc. I’m a new rider and I’ve just been riding slowly round the block and not on the main roads Cus I’m still worried I’d lock up my wheels somehow
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 you are amazing!! Wish I had you to teach me how to ride when I did my learners course! I will be practicing what you told me right away and also watching all the videos. I tend to overthink A LOT so having someone to tell me the step by step process really helps to calm myself and not overload my brain with thoughts. Thank you so much! And is it alright if I get your discord or something so I can message you again if I have any questions in the future?
Good morning. I have wondered for some time why curves are referred to as corners, which I think of as right angle turns in common ordinary conversation.
I have an interesting MESSED-UP situation: You ride fast in the twisties positioning your body on the inside of the corner because they are faster corners. Now there comes a tight hairpin up, that's a corner you would take by pushing the bike under you (body position outside of the corner) but you were dumb enough to already position yourself on the inside. How to handle the situation? How to handle a very slow corner after many "fast" corners? (Change from counter steering to direct steering)
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Hey Greg. All of these tips helped me overcome the anxiety of downhill corning to the right. Especially blind corners, which had me slowing way too much. Delay turn in, look as far ahead as possible and let the corner come to me…now it’s a blast, thanks!! 👍👍
nice!
he's got great canyon carving videos, at least 2 that are both extremely detailed and 20+min long of cornerporn, up and down the mountain, over and over to drill in the technique for uphill and downhill
If you are anywhere near the Blueridge Parkway, you'll have 400 miles of exactly that. Incredible road that has a bazillion of those exact same corners.
@@joeposato6662 Hi Joe. I had the pleasure to ride the Tail of the Dragon last October, had an incredible ride! The Smokey’s are a rider’s paradise.
That’s Awesome 👏
I been a motojitsu member so long that I noticed you went from drawing paper on your kitchen table to a dry erase board in your garage. Thank you for everything you do. You still the same greg who is a motorcycle instructor who makes motorcycle videos. Amazing 👏
yes!
As a new on road rider (I've rode dirt bikes, 3-wheelers and 4-wheelers off road nearly my whole life) I have learned SO MUCH from this channel as well as Dandanthefireman and even FortNine. So when I'm riding or going around a curve, I will look out as far as I can see to check there is nothing out there I need to worry about and to look for my line, but mostly I'm looking at least 3 car lengths or so in front of me while every once in a while checking closer in front of me just to double check there's nothing in the road I might have missed. I'm doing this at the same time that my eyes are scanning from side to side checking for any side roads or driveways where cars may be coming out of and looking for that dangerous silhouette of the side of a vehicle that would make me have to pay closer attention to it in case I need to slow down/stop, swerve or change my path of travel. I also check left, right then left again when going through an intersection and I treat blind hills as if they were intersections as well since they block your line of sight and so I'll slow down some and cover my breaks, maybe even take up the slack on the break lever until I am able to see over the hill and can see that it's clear. It's definitely a LOT of mental and visual gymnastics, but it IS getting easier to do as I am building up good habits and muscle memory. I'm always trying to pay attention to what's going on around me and NOT just straight in front of my forks.
Hello Greg, greetings from Athens, Greece. I ride for a little more than one year with a 300cc bike. You 've learned me almost anything I know about motorcycle riding. You 've opened a whole new world. I' ve read total control, participated in riding schools, try to practice as often as I can with motojitsu exercises and I see that my riding level and knowledge is actually better than people that ride for years. Most important, I know what i should be aware of and how many (MANY) things I need to improve and learn. Thanks for everything!
awesome to hear it!!
I love how your eyes really do what your saying and look through the corner instead of just talking and looking at the camera. You’re really visualizing what you’re talking about and showing us what we’re supposed to be looking at and finding out target and exit points! Thanks
Hi Fast Eddie,I took delivery on my 2020 Fat Boy 114 yesterday, today was my maiden voyage. Back in January I became a Pre-Loader with the cop, Robert Simmons, “Trust & Believe.” Then in June I found you with a full head of hair, now I am snooping around your Master Classes. I got through chapter four in “Total Control 2nd Edition,” more videos on turning and being the Boss of my Friction Zone and Front Break. Then I got your app for my Note 9 and my iPad Pro. Phenomenal app! I put on my SS Helmet, (SS stands for Sub Surface Warfare), gloves, Sedici jacket, and touring pants. I looked straight, bars straight, found the friction zone, covered my foot break and lifted my left foot as I rolled down my driveway over the trench to a right turn. My neighbor, a rider, saw me do 5 donuts to the left then 5 to the right and leaning into the four turns on our circle/court, then I took off down the road. She said, “Your ready for Bike Week! Are you sure this is your first time?” Down shifted and duck walked my first U-ie, 😂 On the fifth U-ie I wasn’t able to stay on the road even in lock, but I locked the fork through the turn on the grass. A garbage truck was approaching, I forced myself not to look as they cheered me on. On my fourth jaunt off my court, down the road I kept my feet on the boards, road the grass and jetted back to my house…all on my FIRST BIKE! I’m scheduled for the Harley Academy in two weeks. Now I’m going to earn my White Belt. Thank you for all you do and the top shelf instruction you give. ET1(SS/SW/MTS) USN, Ret.
you're very welcome!!
im a newbie rider from Philippines,,and your videos are very helpful, specially the myth of not using front brakes,, thanks a lot sir👍
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I took my MSF this weekend and locked up the front tire on a straight into a 180⁰ curve, made a beautiful recovery at 25mph. Made the curve and was less aggressive on braking and then trusted the bikes capabilities the rest of the day. Passed all testing later in the day. Funny thing about this whole class was the fact that I was the slowest to get steady on straights for day 1 but ended up being class leader for all exercises by the end of the day and all of day 2. Money well spent for never having ridden a powered bike, I'm definitely going to go back after I feel confident to take the next level of training classes.
Amazing how you keep making fresh content while you have already covered so many things! I had a course last weekend wich had mid corner stops, 90 mph emergency stops and just straight on track riding. I had an amazing basic level due to your video's and training i did because of it! During this course I finally practiced using the front brake more and got really comfortable trailbraking. Thanks!
:) welcome
Your videos teach me so much - thank you! Lol... on a side note, in the past the track intimidated me because people were so fast in my class that I felt out of place and slow. Now I ride at the pace that I’m comfortable with and don’t worry about what people are doing behind me. A no crash day is a great day!
You're welcome. :) yes!
Holy cow, this is worth gold. I'm so thankful to live in a time where I can find good instruction for free that's accessible at anytime of the day.
Oh my gosh I’m laughing! 🤣 I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come out of a corner mad that I slowed down so much. Thanks for this!
I'm lucky to have found this video, thanks!
Putting the bike into Winter storage shortly, and need to revisit it (the vid) next Spring.
45 years of riding and never aware of these excellent turning techniques and mental approach. Again, thanks for putting this info out to us, could be saving lives.
welcome!
Spot on advice. Having a known stretch of road to practice on is invaluable. Go out and ride it over and over, knowing the road will allow u to find tune ur skill sets
Interesting what was "instinct" during my 20s, after a life since 5th grade of dirt bikes, 3-wheelers, and 4 wheelers, and riding on the road was natural..Fast forward 15 years of not riding, and I way slow down on corners and forgot my "instinct". Thank you for providing all the vids you do. I am definitely more concerned about gear before and learning what I thought wouldn't go away...
I'm in my 40's and just returned to motorcycling after about a 6-7 year layoff, just discovered your channel and It's the best skill teaching I've ever seen. I bet you've saved a few lives by now, you're doing Gods work here on TH-cam:) Do you recommend any schools in California around Ventura or LA county for riders to sharpen and learn skills.
I was on a training course on a track and maintenance throttle was not really explained. They did mention rolling off throttle for lean but not maintenance.
I was on third session so I was getting cocky. went into a corner too fast for my comfort level so I just rolled off throttle leant over more, I stayed off the throttle because I didnt understand maintenance throttle. low sided my brand new r6 :-)
P.S I have only recently found your videos, the way you explain everything is brilliant. I'm a better and more importantly a safer rider.
Thanks
Usually I find your videos so much useful and informative. In fact, life saving. Thank you from EGYPT.
Very deep , thanks.
I knew i overslowing my entries,
But i didnt knew how to overcome this problem.
Now the bike and even myself feels more stable.
Thanks for this video. I have been practicing my cornering with my new heavier bike. i think this will help me start building my cornering confidence.
One of the best description of this problem ! Regards from Poland
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Oh wow I've just watched 'why your over slowing corner entry' I had that same feeling at the weekend ,I said to hubby I could have gone round that corner quicker ? Because I'm now learning to corner correctly (or should I say a lot better) and having just watched another of you cornering videos , I really get it .Hubby trys to explain and I watch him as we go round corners ,to follow his line , but I'm not quite there yet.As you say more practice required.Thank you so much MotoJitsu .I know I'm going to achieve my goal of being a better rider 😊❤
im glad we have youtube now. we dont need to take class anymore we can learn alot of things on this youtube channel!
Had the time of my life on my RG Ultra doing the Tail of the Dragon. Hard acceleration to the curve, hard braking into the turn, and haul ass out of the turn. 11 miles that felt like it took about 5 minutes. Just awesome :)
I seriously needed this video. I've caught myself doing this on sharper corners on the back roads. This video will help big time. Any time I mess up riding or feel like I didn't do something well, I come to your channel or open your book.
Any advice on Round-abouts/traffic circles? I know when I first started riding they were intimidating.
I believe that you are one of the most contagious online motorcycle teachers, unfortunately I live in Greece otherwise I would be your daily student and most likely you would be my best friend.. regards from Kos island (Greece)
Thanks for the video. I have downhill corner anxiety. Can't wait for the weekend to practice.
I can't believe I found this amazing channel from a hot ones video!!! I've had 3 horrible fuxt up motorcycle wrecks... I really wished I had watched these videos in my early 20s lol.
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Watched this video before going out to play today. Shorter ride (it is getting colder in Germany after all), but I did manage to apply these tips in the twisties. Just like you said, one variable at a time. I remember how intimidating the roads and curves around where I live used to be. Now I am simply looking forward to having fun and practicing what you share with us. Thanks so much, Greg!
:) welcome!!
Yesss. All this is so essential to know and be aware of. I recommend your channel too every motorcycle rider I meet 🙌🏽
I went from a 1974 Ducati 750-GT to a 2002 BMW R-1150-RS.They ride much differently. The Ducati could corner by simply leaning as I entered and then adjust my line by steering. The BMW wanted to hold it's line more, and needed more counter-steering to get into and out of the corner.
Learned a lot from your videos. You're the best! Greetings from Philippines 🇵🇭
Awesome! Thank you!
Counter steering saved my life. Thanks Eddie.
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I had a huge distraction once on a curvy road. (someone passed me on a one lane road) I looked at him and just about went straight off the road. I whipped my head to the right and my bike followed. SAFE!! Because I instinctively did what I had practiced over and over and over
Sheesh
Those are honestly excellent tips, but im gonna be honest with my idiocy here and say that one tip that just changed the world for me was that the bike will stay leaned over after the countersteering input. That just for some reason made me a whole lot confident and let me narrow down what i have to do after tipping in, now i can actually focus on cornering and throttle control
WHAAAAAT?! video done in multiple cuts? Lol. Thanks for the video Greg. Going too slow approaching corners is one of my problems and it causes me to build anxiety about what I need to do, but also, in my head I'm like 'man, I'm going way too slow. I must look stupid.'
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Thanks new rider and this really helps just trying to join the dots! Thinking Its a speed problem but after watching u its braking about me getting comfortable with braking!!
I actiually learned something form a physics paper about countersteering the other day, and that is you are ALWAYS counter steering, even when you do not have your hands on the steering wheel at all, even then through motions of your body, you countersteer, if you wanna turn right, the motion of your body first turns the steering wheel to the left a little and then to the right, you are always countersteering even if you do not touch the steering wheel at all, because that is the only way to initiate a lean.
Thanks for the tips, I only ride 125cc bikes in the UK. I recently changed from a supermoto style to a race style bike and have noticed I'm slowing down way more on corners than I used to so I'll give these tips a try.
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Another great, one Greg. As much as I enjoy listening to music when I ride, I have to shut down my Bluetooth in order to concentrate better when I venture out of my comfort zone and have to think my way through a situation. This applies to both twisters and off road.
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I don’t own a bike yet but am planning on buying one .love from Jamaica 🇯🇲
The best explanation ever found on TH-cam, thank you so much.
Motojitsu is one of the best teacher outhere! Ive'd really learned alot from his vid! Thank you!
Moto jitsu I'm a new rider got a triumph 1200 rs and I use my brakes all the time and use all your tips and we have very tight bends I UK like snake pass etc
Hey Motojitsu! You have the BEST content regarding beginner motorcycle learning and techniques. Thank you sincerely as a new rider. I'm having trouble with accidental whiskey throttle during right turns from a stop.. can you make a video on that? Lots of accidental whiskey throttle compilations on YT but no informative videos.
Thanks! I have a few on right hand turns and just keep your wrist lower than your grip
adjust the brake and clutch levers on your bike. it seems like they are too high.
Great tips. I would suggest one more possible reason for overslowing: going in to the corner at a gear lower than you should/could. You might be able stay in 4 gear, trail brake a bit, and accelerate out of a corner smoothly. If you go into the corner in 3rd gear instead, now you're having to deal with unnecessary engine braking, and having to get into maintenance throttle earlier, and revving up your engine into high rpms to exit the corner. It feels like a lot of unnecessary drama.
This is great. It was like you were talking directly at me.
I was lol
I have had the same exact feeling!! Thanks, Greg!
I think confidence with the brakes is key. I ride a lot in the Swiss alps, really high up, with huge drops that sometimes are quite scary. I add an extra safety margin in terms of speed there. Riding these types of roads helped me overcome anxiety, building up trust in my bike‘s brakes. But honestly, I still have both, good and bad days. On bad days good cornering just does not work out for me, so I just go slow and easy. There is never enough practice, as you rightfully keep teaching.
Sure is!
Thank you Moto Jitsu - again precise, logical and well broken down. Very much appreciate the effort you put into this to help us all. I'll shut up and practice now
simple saying with meaning...just what it matters! thank you!
Just ordered my first bike - bmw f900r. Subscribed already. Great content!
I'd like to see you do something like this, but explaining the difference between cornering "going uphill" vs "going downhill." Great videos BTW. Cheers from Melbourne, Australia.
I already have videos of that
Because I haven't taken advanced classes, the concept of "maintenance throttle" in a corner is new to me. It makes sense, but it's one of those split-second judgement or finesse issues that you know when it's right, it feels so fine and smooth, but because of road variability, unless you're frequently on the same road, it may be difficult to get exactly right every curve on an unfamiliar road.
Exceptional tips. Keep it up. I feel you help us riders. In turn probably saving us from crashing. Thank you!!!
Cornering has always been a mixture of enjoyment, fear and frustration for me. But this video has at least given me greater understanding of my weaknesses. Hopefully now I can improve. I'm 62 years old now. Can I still improve or will fear take over. I really don't know but here's hoping
2:39 nice one. ^^
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Hi very good content to boost confidence, I’ve been riding for about 45 years and in the 70s you had to learn yourself as no Internet, except now you can get to much advice so can get confusing for any rider. If I was starting out again I would have definitely entered more track days mainly to safely understand the limitations of the bike and understand how important suspension settings are. I’ve had some very fast bikes in my time ( fireblade, hayabusa, milli r, ) to name a few, but at 64 I’ve come to realise it’s not all about pinning the throttle back between bends, it’s about control and consistency.To fast into a bend can slow your exit, but even I still admit to making mistakes even on roads I do every weekend. ( maybe old age )
6:12 - “… I have to downshift because they overslowed”…
Laughs in 1000cc, going 20mph in 6th gear and still no stall 😎
Excellent video Greg! It should be in the mandatory curriculum of the basic rider’s classes in order to get the license!
Thanks mate, building on champu material in my situation, good advice.
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I follow all you said greg, thank you for all!! Greetings from Argentina!
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@5:00 at this part of the turn, when it starts to lean over and everything goes right. As I accelerate out the turn is the best feeling in the world.
When you can see the exit and start to stand up the bike?
@@MotoJitsu Yes sir
Hello Greg, thanks for all those tips; they really improve my riding but also thinking about my riding. Keep on educating, You are doing it perfectly!
thanks!
Hi Greg, we still learning from you! Thanks for your videos:) regards from Holland
Thanks for watching!
Getting back to the throttle sooner . That’s I’ll be working on.. thanks 🙏🏼 a million
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Just found your channel a couple of days ago. It's dynamite! I'd like to see how you are able to steer a bike without using your hands. Thanks!
Hi 👋 thanks for your videos man. Great stuff. Curious: would you ride the TT?
That’s how I got better at mountain biking. I did the same thing over and over until I mastered the feature that caused problems.
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Thanks for these skill tips fast Eddie, love it!
Glad you like them! Share it!!
Mr. MotoJitsu, thank you so much for another great informative video. I enjoy and have learned so much from your content and practicing it as well too. Anytime I meet a new or existing rider who seem hungry to learn proper techniques of riding, I always mention you and that they definitely should go watch and learn. Ride Safe and keep uploading amazing videos. P.S. I just watched your Rapper video... Love it, Rapper Fast-Eddie
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I figured out the maintenance throttle part real quick. The counter steering, I can't tell if I've used it, or not. I'm probably gonna practice in a parking lot when I get the chance.
you can't not counter steer...you either push right to go right or pull left...won't make the bike lean, therefore turn without it.
@@MotoJitsu I guess I'm using it then. lol
sure are...I have like 10+ videos on the topic that should help.
Slowing down ,banking, add power ,it's the same principle in aviation turning
Love your stuff, the looking through corners has been key for me. Do you have anything specific to someone riding an automatic?
Great . Great . Great. Nothing else to say. Tips all put together to reform riding style to the better.
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This video made a big change to my cornering ability, you made easy
thanks!
Gold. One question though. How does that work with a bike with short gearing?
I want to ride like that but I don’t want to lug the bike?
I just watched this vid again - its one of your best. Thanks :)
Awesome info. Just realized what I need to work on.
thanks! Share it!
Brand new rider and love all of your video's. Thanks for the great tips 😀 ❤
You’re welcome Jackie!
Love your knowledge Greg, thanks for sharing with us. Such a massive help. X
Great Video Greg! Greetings from Greece! 🇬🇷🖤🏍️
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Thank you Motojitsu everything you’ve said here is on point and exact👏👏👏👏
Can you do a video on how to handle turning on a fucked up road. I live in Chicago and riding here is crazy as hell with all of these fucked up roads.
Yes, go slowly and avoid all the jacked up places.
Awesome event at Cycle Gear last night! Thanks for another awesome vid
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Great vid, lots of tips 👍👍👍
Slow in fast out, fast in slow out.
To start...eventually it'll be fast in fast out :)
Great video. Definitely something to work on and practice daily.
thanks :)
I slow down before cornering too much because I don't feel comfortable leaning too far. I became a better rider since November when I almost ran wide into a car moving in the opposite direction. This is when it started and I am still a little too conservative in entry speed. And I'm talking about city riding.
I’ve been practicing good, always actively counter steering, to the point that the technical aspect of road riding is a joke even one handed. But even being active and precise with counter steering at all times, and having little trouble getting to max lean angle in parking lots; it was still jarring how much pressure it takes to counter steer once I started cornering above comfort level to learn. The bike resists leaning the faster you’re moving, and if you don’t push harder and keep your eyes ahead it’s an easy way to panick and fixate wide. Eyes on exit, _light_ brake pressure, counter steer through. Remembering that saved my ass. Trying to brake hard for entry, trail off as you counter steer, and have a good corner is a lot to do at once. Get used to one thing at a time and think about fundamentals during the turn
There’s always more to learn and learning things one at a time is good but need to put it altogether
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That was funny he almost drew Laguna Seca except he added a turn…
No problem 👍 share it!
Novel thought, use the race line on a racetrack; try using the corner limit point to help identify if your speed is appropriate for that bend.
Too many people ride on dipped headlights rather than main beam for vision ahead.
whatever works for you
@@MotoJitsu If, the limit point is moving towards you slow down (or even god forbid brake) if it is moving away from you increase speed. If it is static, in relation to you, then your speed is correct for that bend.
However always plan for the furthest point you can see, not the first bend but the last one.
None of that makes sense...you don't just brake because of those situations or increase speed...it sounds like you're quoting bumper stickers of things that been said for a long time that are highly inaccurate. I highly suggest signing up for ChampU. The online courses by Yamaha Champions Riding School instructors who are professional racers who also ride on the street. Ridelikeachampion.com you also get a discount through me MotoJitsu.com/courses
@@MotoJitsu Bit difficult as I'm in the UK.
There are occasions when people go far to fast into bends, especially experienced riders who believe that braking is some kind of failure.
Everyone makes mistakes or misjudges occasionally.
If, you are in the right gear, speed and correct position then you will get round the corner safely.
If the limit point is moving away from you, then you can increase speed (or chase the limit point).
The challenge is making sure it doesn't tighten up, but that comes down to forward planning.
Out of all 22 courses I've been through (20 of them being higher level courses above the basic training), not one of them ever mentioned limit point and to me it's more confusing than anything and isn't a technique to learn nor does it make any sense to me. but do as you will.
this was me on my ride yesterday. I kept over slowing on all the corners. I need to get more confident with my breaks and trail breaking.
I think we all counter steer,but Not actively.I am guilty of over slowing, and it’s magnified when I review Gopro footage of the ride. I can see that I have not looked far enough ahead,or through the corner ‘where you want to go’ . Here in 🇬🇧 if a corner has a history of riders crashing ,the authorities paint 6’ letters SLOW ,on the road. When in fact it’s an easy corner, just taken incorrectly with target fixation 👍
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Thank you for the lesson! 🙏
Great points, ever since I installed my autoblipper on my r6 , I just roll off the throttle and downshift instead of touching the breaks when entering a corner. Not sure if this is a bad habit or just a preference thing
All good at an easy pace
Great breakdown, with sweet dry erase graphics! Cant beat it! Is that the Mulholland bend where everyone crashes?
:) Nothing in this video was based on any real corners I just made them up
Sounds great but i am in UK where we drive on the other side of the road.
THIS RIGHT HERE is good teaching vs riding, but if I were you lesson one here on white board, switch to riding to demo, back to class lesson two, switch to riding demo of lesson two and back to classroom for lesson three.
This would be a good “dual method” approach would work well I think because the classroom tells us what to expect without the scenery distraction, and then instantly showing the equivalent ride along and back to class would be really good.
Because you are doing the ride along approach vs muted engine with voice over. Class explains the up coming ride along. Ride along shows lesson and back to class. Muted voice overs feel like presenter talking about someone else’s ride not theirs.
This would be a good series for teaching because your comes are tiny to see in the camera and your parking lots don’t have lines on the ground. So in the classroom draw route through the exercise then switch to parking lot.
I think this method would reach more riders who learn one method over the other.
An old Chinese saying I remember goes like this.
Tell me I forget, show me and I remember, but involve me I understand. This dual method gets them to the remembering point and practice will help them understand.
Look forward to seeing this method in action as I think you would reach more people doing that. Try it out.
New rider here, great video, thanks, I'll try it today! A problem I have is trying to brake and rev-match my downshifts at the same time. I brake, then I have to release the brake to rev-match, then continue braking etc. I've learned heel-toe braking in my car, but don't quite have the technique down for a bike...can you show us how it's done?
welcome. You don't have to rev-match, especially as a new rider...it's not something to think about or worry about at all. I have a video on it but no need to do that at all. It's like trying to juggle 10 balls at once when you're not good at doing 5 yet.
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 so if I downshift and feel my engine tugging, should I upshift again or just ride with the tugging?
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 yes it does! Thank you so much!! And what advice would you give for braking - coming to a traffic light stop, emergency braking etc. I’m a new rider and I’ve just been riding slowly round the block and not on the main roads Cus I’m still worried I’d lock up my wheels somehow
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 you are amazing!! Wish I had you to teach me how to ride when I did my learners course! I will be practicing what you told me right away and also watching all the videos. I tend to overthink A LOT so having someone to tell me the step by step process really helps to calm myself and not overload my brain with thoughts. Thank you so much! And is it alright if I get your discord or something so I can message you again if I have any questions in the future?
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 yea man I am!
Good morning. I have wondered for some time why curves are referred to as corners, which I think of as right angle turns in common ordinary conversation.
I have an interesting MESSED-UP situation: You ride fast in the twisties positioning your body on the inside of the corner because they are faster corners. Now there comes a tight hairpin up, that's a corner you would take by pushing the bike under you (body position outside of the corner) but you were dumb enough to already position yourself on the inside. How to handle the situation?
How to handle a very slow corner after many "fast" corners? (Change from counter steering to direct steering)