I Was Wrong About Electrolytes & Hydration For Hiking
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video podcast, I sit down with Jeff and Jenny, the founders of Tailwind Nutrition. We talk a lot about hydration and the use of electrolytes to provide better hydration in the backcountry. I thought I understood how consuming electrolytes works in the hydration process, but quickly learned how much I didn't understand.
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Devin, thank you for raising this topic. Im not sure about some statements made in this video though. I would listen to GearSkeptic video series on this topic. Its very detailed with references from peer reviewed journals and such. He is not affiliated with anything commercial
This is so interesting and it’s great it’s all finally in one place.
So much information to digest. Love these longform interviews, great job Devin.
Really glad you enjoy them! A lot of work to make happen, but the conversations are awesome.
Rather useful information! I also was initially thinking it would be TL/Dr…. But after the initial intro the talk got very informative! Plenty of takeaways & you & their piece was just right. Thx! It’s currently 110 in California (for a week or so) & tips can be gained here.
Great video! Nice to know the science/background behind it! Might have to add it to the rotation 😊
Lots of good info! Thanks for being here!
Loved the good info.!
I hydrate the same on the trail as in my professional kitchen during a long ,hot day:1 lt water mixed with 1 tea spoon sugar and half a teaspoon salt.simple,cheap and efficient.
THANK YOU. As an older backpacker, I have been looking for this type of info - very helpful. Trying to find the right combinations with all of the different products has been daunting - and confusing.
I was just in Durango a few days ago - if I had seen this clip, I would have certainly picked up some of their products to try out.
Ah! This was super interesting to watch. I really like the point made that you should really consider your own needs and do what feels good for you. I have IBS so I stay away from artificial sweeteners like Stevia (diarrhea during a long distance run or backpacking trip- no thank you) plus I do endurance activities so I'm always looking for products that have carbs in addition to electrolytes (for energy). But for some people who struggle with serum glucose management (like diabetes), products like LMNT may be the best option for them. I think the market is big enough for all different types of products. From what I learned here, Tailwind's products seem to fit my personal needs exactly! I placed an order to sample all their lines. Always cool to learn about different options out there! Thanks for sharing!
Stevia rebaudiana is an herb native to Brazil. Not an artificial sweetener.
I can't tolerate anything with Stevia either. It tastes just like artificial sweeteners to me, so it doesn't matter it comes from a plant.
Finding a sugar supplement is difficult. LiquidIV doesn't make non-stevia mixes.
I've used the Untapped brand which uses maple syrup to great effect. Now use powdered maple syrup to make my own.
Great to see someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. Every influencer talks about LMNT and it’s not great…maybe I should say…not great for me. All the sugar nazi’s scream about sugar free and how it’s better for you. I have tried multiple electrolytes and I hike year around in Arizona and I can tell you Liquid IV works best for my body. It’s a noticeable difference. You can get them on sale at Costco and Sam’s often. Big bag of 30 for around $20. I know every Tom, Dick and Harry is sponsored by LMNT but it’s expensive and has SO much salt and it leaves the sugar out so it doesn’t end up doing what it’s supposed to do. The sugar is part of the equation. I’ll check out Tailwinds. Great interview!
Glad you enjoyed it. Im not here to throw shade at any other brands or creators through this discussion. I worked with LMNT on a couple videos myself. That said, this conversation with Jeff and Jenny was genuinely very educational and I think shares a lot of important and helpful information. The goal being that it helps others make more informed decisions on what's best for them. Thanks for watching and sharing!
@@BackcountryExposure I know you have worked with LMNT. Everyone does! Even influencers I follow outside of backpacking. Which basically waters down the legitimacy of the brand. When every channel out there has the same sales pitch on repeat for one company you know they are paying well. I totally get you all need sponsors but my goodness! One day it was radio silence about electrolytes and the next everyone is claiming LMNT. No other brands…just LMNT. Not even talking about electrolytes like you just did in the interview which was great. Love your videos. I’ve got 3 boys and we backpack a lot and I enjoyed your last video about camping/ backpacking with kids. I wish it was talked about more.
This was a great interview
Thanks Jarrad!
Lots of good info in this video. What I don't understand is why you'd need some special product when backpacking. I get it for athletes working at high intensity for hours in ultra events, but when hiking it's easy enough to drink plain water and eat enough salty and sugary stuff without getting any stomach problems.
Certainly can do that. The proper ratios of sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium do help in speeding up replenishing electrolytes. One could make their own mix at home-many good recipes online. But if you are not doing considerable output trips this may not be applicable.
Thanks! Just as Jenny mentioned in the discussion, everyone's nutritional needs and body is different. So do what works best for you. Also, activity levels are going to be different for each person. Thanks for being here!
Interesting. LMNT actually lists a recipe on their website also. Surprised tailwind doesn’t specialize in legumes!
TL;dw hydration is a balance between electrolytes (sodium/potassium/magnesium/etc). This balance can be disrupted when exerting yourself, especially if sweating for longer periods while not taking on water and replenishing electrolytes, nothing new here. Their angle is that adding some sugars may allow you to find a rehydration balance faster. Just electrolytes with water, they say, relies strictly on osmosis to recreate any lost balance while the additional pathways opened when consuming some amount of sugars at the same time may allow for a faster rebalance under certain conditions.
Basically if you’re not an extreme endurance athlete who manages get yourself into massive imbalances and require faster than usual rebalancing to get back into your event, you’ll be fine doing what you do now. Very specialized stuff, in my opinion. This absolutely doesn’t mean the average hiker/backpacker should be guzzling more sugar down with their electrolytes as it will have more impact on your slide into insulin resistance than the speed of your rehydration.
Incredible information. Thank you?!
Glad you enjoyed it. It certainly was educational for me. :)
As a Type 1 diabetic, I have to be very careful with carbs. I had been using LMNT specifically because it doesn't have sugar that converts to glucose. I will have to reconsider my strategies, which is wicked difficult once you add in carbs into a regimen that includes significant caloric expenditures..
Absolutely! Consult with your doctor and do what's best for your specific needs.
Check out Hamner Nutrition Fizz tabs. As someone on a low carb diet these are one of the best electrolyte profiles with only a small amount of carbs. I use these the majority of the time. Also used heavily by athletes.
My body runs on sugar when I’m backpacking. Gotta have skittles. Anyway, I’ve found Liquid IV Watermelon to be the best for me. Didn’t know it was needed to hydrate faster, but I can tell a difference.
Very interesting. I might have to make some adjustments to which electrolytes to use while backpacking.
Yeah totally! Everyone's needs are different, so use what works best for you. I've been really enjoying the Rapid Hydration.
This sounds counterintuitive to LMNTs claim. How can two groups be this far apart
No coupon code?
Interesting subject! tldr anyone?
I went through a bit of a rabbit hole a while back looking into electrolytes. I wanted to find cheaper or diy solutions and scoured ultrarunning forums. Found Boulder Salt which is $16 for 113 servings. No flavoring. I'll try to take some in the morning when I wake up. Been feeling better with the routine. When on trips I try to keep my pee lemonade color.
Looked into the Tailwind products. The recovery mix looks convenient.
I've not heard of Boulder Salt. I'll look that up.
@@BackcountryExposure It kind of reminds me of drinking pool water and there's one ingredient that doesn't dissolve that ends up on the bottom of your bottle. Otherwise, it's working well. When backpacking I carry some in a small nalgene container with an ice cream sample spoon. Need only 1/4 teaspoon of the mix.
Baja gold salt. Best salt on the planet, has everything.
@@NatureBetsLast I looked it up. It's just sea salt. No magnesium, potassium, and calcium. Boulder Salt uses less sodium.
Oh my bad it does have them.
Would be nice to see a short cut of that or just main most important info, cannot be bothered watching long boring video, sorry ;)
Just listen at 1.5x speed. 😁
@@BackcountryExposure or 3x at least haha, oh well...