Gen 1 Busa VS 2017 up CBR 1000 Dyno BEFORE AND AFTER ECU Flash -MOORE MAFIA
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- This video shows a perfect example of a extremely clean stock 2007 Hayabusa. The Suzuki Hayabusa is the exact same from 2002-2007. With that being said we have dyno'd a few 2017 and up CBR1000RR bikes in previous videos with low HP numbers. Let me know what you think in the comments below!
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Thanks for tuning my baby Chris, road trip was well worth it!!!
what part of Jersey are u from......I'm north in Clifton
@@PVW4EVER Union county
Did he take the baffles out?
@@blackbutmild1 absolutely!!! Like the way it sounds without them.
Looks like a possible stem seals job in the future
Man I love how you explain the nuances of what a good tune does to the bike. Sometimes people only look at HP #’s when it’s really about the big picture.
I'm a gen 1 busa guy I love mine, what he says is true. hp numbers isn't everything!
Yep, where and when the power happens on the tach is a very big deal.
My favourite TH-cam tuner and racer, love the enthusiasm !
Amazing how much has changed since the gen 1 busa has came out.
nothing changed busa is still slow kid
Talking about your numbers on CBR's I'd say you're pretty accurate. My CBR1000rr '16 put down 167hp/89tq. In Panhandle FL middle of summer.
Theres blue smoke coming from the tail pipe check for bad head gasket or cylinder leaks
on decel is v/guides/seals
Just bought my 2 gen1 hayabusa 2000 model blue/silver
4 into 1 full system imo is the only way to go on any bike
slip on as far as I'm concerned are a waste of money for little or no different over stock for most bikes sweet busa👌👌👌👌
I beg to differ with the slip-on not being better than stock statement. I have had 5 different bikes. And replaced the stock with slip-on. And immediately noticed a difference in midrange
Slip ons are good for cosmetics and to save a few lbs. I've had some workout a tune that made me loose power and caused a rough idle.
The baffles in the Slipons. Sounds like a band I heard on Bourbon Street back in the day. Awesome content tho can't get enough Moore Mafia!
Love these videos. Thanks Chris cant stop watching wish i could send my Busa to you. Greetings from South Africa
Did anyone notice that blue smoke out of exhausts?
My old G1 w Yosh ST1 roadrace high lift cams, airbox cut out, and Arata 4-1 Ti system made 178/107wtq she was fun. Current G2 w FTECU flash and Brocks Alien system shows same #'s on dyno w stock airbox/filter but she doesnt feel as gnarly as my ole G1
The gen 1 Busa its the best bike that humanity ever created, the next models are good but not something special like gen 1
The newer one are faster. By alot
This Busa probably has old fuel in the tank. Replacing it with new fuel and a tune up makes a great difference
I thought he rode it 12hrs to get there?
What’s the air line he switches on ur purpose?
I've been waiting for this video hell ya!!! Cant wait to watch it! Liked the video instantly as always thanks chris
I ride a gen 1, and it’s no where near jerky.
1300 four cilinder is smooth as butter.
Its real easy to drive 40, in anny gear. From 1 to 6.. it all runs smooth.
I LOVE SUZUKI HAYABUSA 💯❤️
been wanting to see a gen 1 hayabusa beings i just added an 04 to my collection
I see y'all! Lookin good. My current scooter is a 03 yzf r6. Keep up the good work!
Awesome bikes 3 i owned just got a 2020 , will be flashlight and hopefully dyno tuning with you guys,something in the 2020 is it goes to over 12 rpm maybe limiter higher in this last year
I just so happen to have an early year gen 1 busa also! I will look up what to do with mt ecu and send it to ya!!!
I wanna tune my 06' Busa now! I love taking the twisties and want more mid range gain.
I believe my 06 with full Yosi, K&N, Power Commander made 164 and I was very happy. Also I heard if the mains was stamped AAAA that they made the most hp
I've got a 2008 zx10r, and my biggest complaint is the jerky throttle. I'm in Myrtle Beach, and may plan a road trip out to see you. I'd love to see what you can do.
I have a gen 1 Busa with k&n and aftermarket exhausts but I'm disappointed at the hp of My bike I believe it probably similar power wise as this one was at the first run.
Don’t forget the busa run good on Ram air. So it will gain more.
Why when you test the bike you are not on it? Cause bikes with more hp maybe spin on dyno!
And when you testing it you dont let it hit redline!
Just a question!! Goodjob btw keep going!!!
No body mentioned this, but the weak link on the gen. 1 Hayabusa are the front brakes. Yes, the newer bikes make much more power, but the worst thing about those 99-07 'busa's are the brakes. I still love my 2007 though, and would never sell it!
I agree but you can get some good improvements with some braided lines plus some better pads and rotors without spending a lot of money. Busa 07.
Chris why do you and others not have a flash for the 2001 Hayabusa (1999 and 2000 I can see because they were unrestricted)?
It's because they have older 16 bit ECU and it is not capable.
@@TeamMooreMafia that sucks because I have that same throttle response issue you spoke about in this video. Thanks for the reply
@@herbfontaine
Powercommander 3 or 5
@@TeamMooreMafia My 2000 has been heavily modified, how can I tell which ecu it has? I don't think it's original because the Engine is from an 06
@@lukesturbo look at the part number on it.
Aww man 4:20 my favorite time of the day
Busa got run hard and put away wet in those 4,000 miles. Jeeezz
Theirs a big difference between Hayabusa gen 1 in general and the first year of the Hayabusa the 1999, because the 1999 is the only one who doesn’t have the government top speed limiter, I’ve had the chance to try one, and when I hit 300 km/h where all others stops, I was holding the throttle even at 300 km/h, and I simply twist it all the way, and at 300 km/h the nose of the bike almost lift up in the air, the feeling was kinda if a kick down had get on, the forks completely stretch and the front wheel was barely touching down, sadly I couldn’t hold on to it to reach top speed because of to many cars in the way, but this thing was wild and so was the first year of the ZX-12 for him it was after 2000 that the government got the hold of it, but the 2000 is a beast sure it’s very ugly with the Ram air tube that comes up like if it was a vacuum cleaner, but on a ZX-12 2000 I was able to reach top speed, and even if the speedo stopped a 280 km/h the needle was way past that if I follow the chart of the 10,20,30,40 and so on until 280 my guess is that it would have read around 330/340 km/h, at least that’s where the needle was pointing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂, and it’s after those two that all bike have a govern speedo on absolutely all bikes.
You never rode a hayabusa bro
Front wheel barely touched the ground?
You are a big lier.
I got mine to 325kmh and had zero problems
@@achillezx14r45 please why can’t you act has if you know always more than others, and always try to insult others who have a different opinion than yours, I’m 54 and if I say I ride a Hayabusa, who are you to tell me I didn’t ?, peoples like you are draining everyone’s around you of energy’s, it’s never gonna help you in life’s, wake-up the worlds is already ugly enough by itself you don’t have to feed it by looking for conflicts where their isn’t one.
I’m in Canada, here the Hayabusa 99 and the ZX12 2000 both were sales full power and they both top speed around 330/340 km/h, and the years after that the models didn’t seemed to changed except they had from factory a speed limiter that blocked it at 299 km/h and every others bikes after those two had it, it’s an understanding between governments because they though it was getting out of hands, like 299 km/h was safe 😂,
But it didn’t took long for everybody’s to tried to unlock it now those who know how can unlock it in a few minutes with a lap top, the top one that I had the chance to rides was my ZX-14R 2013 who was reflash with a full system yosh, quickshiffter and bazzaz, and it did 210 HP with 126 lbs of torques, I had 23 bikes in my life only sportbikes mainly Kawasaki only 2 suzuki and 3 Yamaha no Honda, so before telling somebody he’s lying, try to know who your talking to. 😖🤯
The bike doctor does it again
I have a 2005 busa with the exact same slip ons k&n filter with 9130 original miles, talk to you soon.
boy you better put a chain round dem cylinder there in the background before the osha police getcha.
but seriouisly can you do a video on the air shifters on these bikes
Empty tanks need chains?
@@86250r it's his shop he can throw them from the roof for all I care. "Compressed gas cylinders shall be secured in an upright position at all times except, if necessary, for short periods of time while cylinders are actually being hoisted or carried. The standard applies to all compressed gas cylinders, regardless of whether they are filled, partially filled, or empty."
all of these old busa's have the fuel filter clogged to some degree by now. bypass mod it for easy gains.
I'm sending my gen 1 ecu in
04-05 zx10r. I am waiting for
So am I 😁
Same here 😂
@@scatpack_Ant392 nice looking Gen. 1 you got there my guy 👍🏾
AGREE!
Back in the day mine did 158 hp stock. One night did a top end pull was up around 180 it was still pulling. Ran 1:34@ Big Willow. It was a wicked bike that power to weight ratio crazy
J'adore vos vidéos Chris, j'ai une Hayabusa de 1999 rouge et noire, qui totalise 37000km, peut on flasher l'écu ? Sur un banc Dynojet elle sort 152ch comme celle de la vidéo, elle a une ligne 4/2/1, un power commander V avec autotune, suppression du clapet dans la boite à air, filtre BMC, suppression du système pair. Je roule en hauabusa depuis 2003 et c'est ma troisième .
Salutations motardes de France.
Busa31
is there a diff on the exhaust layout on the gen 1 busas,,like is it better with 4 to 2 or is 4to2to1 better
Hey I drag race a triumph daytona 675r . It would be awesome to see what yuh can do with one on the drag strip!
Hey Chris, is that oil burning common for the Busa’s?
If its a Gen 1 with only 4400 miles, it's likely to have some sticky rings, tight valves etc just from sitting for almost 20 years. Needs a good running in to free everything up again like Chris is doing.
@@TheGarnerjustin73 my gen one freaks folks out with a little blow by on decel. Its about 1/2 quart of oil consumption for every 5,000 miles. Ive prob needed to to my rings 35,000 miles ago...
@@moorepower13 I'd try running Rotella T6 through it in an attempt to clean everything up and see if that helps. Being a diesel oil, it has a ton of cleaning additives and is wet clutch compatible.
Here is an idea..There is a product for gas and diesel called max milage..Pittsburge power was the 1st seller and its ment for burning exhaust better..Might be worth a look..I talked to them ages ago about useing it on gas engines..
Cool vid i was wondering what my busa made
Hey chris you guys do ecu’s from Canada?
Are you guys the ones that are at union dragway this weekend
Can you make a video on street tuning vs dyno tuning?
Man preciate the video
What do you think about Italian bikes Chris?
Well needed
Smoke on the overrun??
My mechanic was able to get 160 hp out of my 2007 Hayabusa.
People get so caught up in the numbers! Yes of course more HP & Torque will obviously make the bike faster. However they need to see and take into consideration the difference in how the power is delivered throughout the whole range. A great tune will achieve some power increases, but the rideablilty and power delivery will show the major improvement. The numbers aren’t always everything....
True comment. How few will ride a litre (plus bike) in its upper limit (unless on a track) Great comment
I will add on a old GSX1100....you can still have fun
I have a 2008 came in the dyno with 151whp and after the dyno section ended up with 175whp just with brocks performance full exhaust system, is that normal?
Wheel speed?
Hahaha Honda fan boys crying. Honda makes great reliable bikes but they have been lacking hp for a long time. Shit the gsxr 750 early 2000 would give the 929rr a run for its money.
@Chris Moore I am planning on installing a TTS Supercharger on my 2008 Hayabusa this Fall, IF I can be patient enough to wait till then, but my question is, after I do the supercharger can you get her tuned up for me?
I’d like to make a trip of it and schedule a dyno and tune apt w you, a we discussed previously, and then do your track class the next day….if possible.
My question is are you game to do the tune on the bike after the supercharger install?
We are doing a few other mods at the same time and would like to do multiple tunes, one for pump gas and one for MR12
Let's see it
Is it me or has the amount of ad's shot up?
Honda's have for the last 10 years at least made less than the other liter bikes
Yeah true but are lighter and better handling
Just curious what's the normal HP output with a full exhaust and the flashed ECU?
Upper 160s
@@TeamMooreMafia I always revered this bike as being the fastest of the fast. But I guess in 2007 upper 160s was truly FAST.
Thsts plenty of HP, have a geb1 with 167, exhaust, K @ N filter and PC5....nothing like a modern 1000cc but still plenty quick with heaps of torque. It's all about getting it running sweet on the Dyno. Love both Generations.. but like the gen1 more. Great bikes, great motors, enjoy.
Is there anyway to know if my ecu has already been flashed by you?
Looks like the valve guide seals are leaking a bit. Right exhaust moves more than left side. Had that on my SV. Why use 5th gear for pulls? Different maps for all gears?
David i think it's because there are restrictions on the 6th gear of the Busas . Of course I'm no Suzuki man, BUT there will be Gixr professors sitting reading this and BANG like a sniper I will be shot down in flames for this comment 😆
Busa's only. 186 mph limit. 157 hp may not make it though. The 1:1 gear ratio thing. That makes a lot of sense.
Lol dude 1 to 1on the busas probley 4th
Nice job but that don’t seem like a lot of hp for that 1299 cc Suzuki engine. The 1000 can make that pretty easy, I was expecting at least 200hp to the ground
K8 Gen 2 Busa made 180HP and 115TQ with 4-1 Akra on a Dynojet Dyno with ECU tune. K9 GSX-R1000 made 170HP and 75TQ with 4-1 Akra with ECU tune on the same Dyno. K4 GSX-R1000 made 160HP and 83TQ with Arrow 4-1 with PCIII
It's the torque that stands out on the Busa
I thought you were going to take the baffles out! Did I miss it?
I think the second pull was without the baffle
How much did tht cost?
Is not Chris fault the honda lack of power ..people think causs it has repsold sticker ..they think.that it has motor form moto gp
Should i do a ecu flash on a 2000 hahybusa...if so i will take the place of my power comander ..???
We can only flesh a 02 and newer Hayabusa
So does that mean the 2018 cbr1000 at 169hp at the wheel is faster than this gen 1 busa at 157 atw?
Considering the 100 lb difference in weight. The CBR would walk away easily.
I have a 2001 gsxr 1000 can you tune the ecu.
Did you pull the baffles out?....
Yes. Right after the first pull. You could barely tell a difference.
@@TeamMooreMafia thanks for the reply man....I thought bikes needed baffles for correct back pressure....pardon my ignorance...
What are the pros and cons to the baffles in the slip on???
Having tamed dog on a leash as opposed to unleashing a rabid dog on the public!
Everyone knows Hondas are the slowest 1000s out the major brands
Not true by far. Guy had a repsol around here that was smacking busas
@@MatthewDespino dude CBR 1000s are slow. If ya boy was beating busas then those rider couldn't ride. I put bus lengths on CBRs back when I was on stock motor on an old ass K5 GSXR 1K
@@AndrewZivic everybody I know knows how to ride . 2 highly expierenced racers. That cbr always gave busa run for its money . Maybe the Honda’s you beat don’t know wtf they doing . Stop picking on 600s
@@MatthewDespino not picking on 600s. ALOT of 1000s are faster than busas so I'm not that surprised. Just saying no CBR 1000 has ever beat nor came close to beating me.
Good Day Chris, what is the name of the apps/software are you using to ecu flash?
Kimpoy Talactac III I believe he uses Woolich mainly.
@@TheJalopy80 Thanks bro for the info.
Hello bud, if i have only slip on, do i need to take the bike to dyno? Can slip on damage the engine? Thanks 👍
No. It's fine with a slip on...
I have never seen a Ducati on that Dyno
Not a common bike and can be a pain to tune.
650ib has that covered 🤘
I live in Utah, I was curious. I have a 2015 GSXS 750. If I were to mail you my ECU and a list of my mods, would you be able to tune my ECU based off of that info?
Tristan Maldonado Yes he can.
TheJalopy80 Does he have a site where I can get more info on it?
That's what i did and I have a 17' GSXR-1000. When I say I am terrorizing the street here!!!! My friend has a Gen 2 Busa and he's not in the same ballpark as I am now. Chris did a great job!!!!!
We RRidez Oh man, you got Chris's contact info?
We communicate through Instagram. Just send him a personal message.
What is the price to dyno tune /flash a zx14? 2013 model
$475
I expected it to be alot louder
those yoshi’s are baffled 👎
Think you'd tune my 2019 ninja h2??
Yes sir
when will the new Hayabusa come?
Look here on TH-cam the 3rd gen is out and people r starting to make vids on it👍🏾
Maybe I misunderstood something, did you mention a gsxr1000 with 210hp? I don't question your Dyno but that sounds like a big difference compared to 157 on a bike with 400 cc more.
Could you explain that?
Depends on how you design the motor. Busa is a tourque monster(for an inline four). Displacement isn't a dead giveaway for high horsepower. Look at all the 1700cc plus cruser motors that make "only" 70 to 80 horsepower but could drag your house outta the ground.
@@moorepower13 but we're talking about 2 bikes that are made for speed. Not a cruiser. And as they're both inline 4's I think it is strange there is such a big difference
1000cc bikes have made a lot of power in the last couple of years. That's a gen 1 BUSA they made more power than the 1000cc bikes of its era
The 2017+ gsxr 1000s make more power stock vs stock. But the busa does make around 25-40tq more than the 1000s. Both full Bolton and tune the gsxr1000 still makes more power
Yes old technology. Just remember old school Busa torque & aerodynamics. Plus the old girl be moving easy at them high speeds, stable
Chris,where the king kong 1k at??
Sold
Yep,been watching your races for a while now!!(years)
That smoke on decel. Guide seals?
need metal Seems like some form of blow by.
@@TheJalopy80 aren't those numbers a little low for a busa? I figured high 160s on a dynojet
No they only make 170ish at the crank so this is good numbers at the wheel for a stock bike with a tune.
need metal Maybe but every dyno is different. My bike has made 3-5 hp different depending on the dyno.
It’s hard to argue with smart people that know everything. ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO ARGUE WITH STUPID PEOPLE THAT KNOW NOTHING!!
whatever the fuk thats suppose to mean..especially coming from someone with "master"in his name.lol
Whats that terrible whining noise? Not you Chris! LOL. Coming from the bike. :-)
That sound comes from the primary gear drive and the balancer
Probably 3rd or 4th cylinder with low compression..
..so no point Tuning an engine with mechanical issues..
curious how you determined that
Idle always sounds better aftervyou warm it up lol
them aren't baffles just way there made
Sounds like he lost a one horse power horse and now hes testing busas
That sucks....
157... Thats shit..
That T-shirt is sick, and at the same time could not be more relevant in times of BLM BS going on. Anyways, that Busa smokes like a bitch! Needs engine rebuild?
Really 5 hp gain what a waste of time and money. Or either he's sain the truth and the other's are lying or vs versa
All that $ Money for only 5HP , yeah Nope
Honda fan boys are just mad , cuz they don't wanna admit the obvious. Hondas are SLOW... Get over it.
It's perfectly normal and acceptable to talk smack on Honda's. They suck!!!!
Na all the manufacturers make great bikes. My sc57 is bulletproof (knocks on wood) 😆. And I can still hang with the same gen bikes. Even hung with a 16 r1 2 days ago. Slowest 1000 ever made (on paper) but in the real world it can hold its own. And also the blade is back.. they finally built a seriously fast bike.
only 4400 miles done very carrefully a quarter at a time
Would there be a difference in power if it was a 4 in 1 exhaust? Awesome to see a bike like that on the dino.
I'm not stingy with my sub I just like to see the hustle first I'm finally a subscriber! I love the dyno vids and the detail that go into them. I would love tto see a video more in detail with how you adjust things in the tuning. Awesome content!
Right on time for lunch break 💪
SAMEEEE BRO