Fairly ironic considering Men's Health has had so many men on their covers that are both using steroids and on top of that the pictures have perfect angle, makeup and photoshop.
LMFAO seriously... Between the actual Covers and the content they put online here, I'd say it's a lot more than just "fairly" ironic 😆 Chef Rush, for example... Yup, looks 2,222% natty to me! Totally attainable without taking anything other than some good ol whey protein! 🙄
@@darrenkelly7271 😂😂😂 He just forgot to mention the 2,222mg of stacked gear he pins every single morning before those push-ups even enter his mind 😅 Probably takes exactly 22mg of certain orals a few times a day as well lmaooo
Me, trained for 25 years natural. No gear, ever. Yep some guy comes along, jumps on the gear , bigger than me in 6 months. Hmmmm can i tell you how many of these guys come along, swell up, then and for whatever reason, dissapear. Man I gave up counting them. Stay natural, you will be healthy, look good and out live all the flash and crash junkies out there. Keep it rolling guys, all clean and make the most of what ya momma gave ya.
Yeah I can somewhat understand if you have good size and that dick skin sick veiny striated look after running gear. But to look like that, and risk all the sides like gyno and your dick not functioning properly I just don't see the upside.
4:11 You can do it naturally to a certain level, but MANY physiques displayed in the media and in magazines like Men's Health are actually unachievable naturally.
so true Ancap2112 so sick of people saying even Mens Health is achievable naturally, its Possible , but not with out super good genetics and lots and lots of hard work/ sleep/ eating perfectly (no junk at all) People today think their purely natural, LOL what a joke. If u guys don't believe me try to maintain a lot of size and get fukn shredded ( 3%) body fat or so like in Mens Health. Just try it, see how fukn hard it is, if even possible, bet u will either be bulky and kinda big and smooth, or ripped and Tiny as fuk
@@imaginarynumber8520 its easy to be lean (just starve yourself), its easy to be buff (keep training), but its almost impossible naturally to be both. because body homeostasis would start to prioritize consuming muscle mass as energy source below 10% bf.
@@bilibiliism exactly! These kids claiming super low body fat don't have big muscles and the ones who have big muscles don't have low body fat. If you want both, steroid is the way otherwise you look like straight out of Nazi concentration cap on natural cut.
Has it been established beyond doubt it was the roids that caused the liver damage? The orally taken ones are heavy on the liver, but intramuscular jabs not so much. More often than not casual gym goers take gear to get big, to show off at parties where alco and drugs such as amphetamine or cocaine are consumed in hectolitres.
wait is that second guy just messing about? He has ZERO muscles in those pics..what he's achieved can be achieved by anyone very easily.. this is so sad
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"! This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that! You are NOT FOOLING us! Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are! Stay natural buddy!
@ quarter rep, half rep has its use in training. Lots of professional bodybuilders use half rep or quarter rep to build tension on muscles, they don't need to make full efforts to achieve hypertrophy.
Khoa Do one of them does, other guy is well above average but not outside of naturally possible. Been close to his size from lifting etc but took 5-6 years of lifting 17-23.
Not really, these dudes were tiny at one point. I used to be 120 and never been able to gain weight. Now i look like the average person because of steroids. So just because you take steroids doesnt mean you need to be all beffed up
@@zaloalvarez6947 "never been able to gain weight" what a load of bullshit. Try eating clean 8-10 times a day, sleeping at least 7hrs a day and lift then tell me the result. The "hard gainer" term is a load of bullshit.
I don't mind people at the top of the game sports people powerlifting strongman taking what ever they want but I see a lot of kids or teens basically just walked through the door at the gym and starting to train and start taking stuff before they have even done a month of training!
Ewan Burke a big issue in society today is that so many want that quick fix, the "i want it NOW attitude. They dont have the patience, the dedication and the balls to put in the work. I see it everyday in the gym, especially in the younger crowd. Many kids today arent taught to work hard for something, but that is a parental discussion not for here...lol
clako clakson yea, i agree. Im not there to impress anyone like the buff boys at the gym. For most its just an ego thing. Their form sucks and I'd like to see their joints and tendons in a few years. These are usually the guys who cry steroids because someone looks better than them doing lifting properly.
Muscle Man totally agree. One of the keys to spot this kind of user is a guy with decent muscle development but shit form and knowledge. They will eventually stop using for health issues and loose all their gains, and they will have lost time and money.
He probably had elevated levels of ast alt which is just strain from using to many orals. That guy had no idea how to cycle. He needed better guidance.
I've been working out since I was 22, now 39. Never took steroids, but considered them a lot. Although I'm at 112kg reasonably lean (for a natty) and my strength is better than ever, you can't reach the granite hard look you get from steroids. The round full muscle bellies, the pumped look all day long, the extra strength, the recovery,... For me it's insulting when the typical Test E/Deca beef head talks about his consistency and hard work being the main factor. Cut the bull man, I work out 5-6 days a week for years, my diet is on point and we ALL know that you wouldn't have reached those results without the steroids. Even if you kept everything else on the same level.
That's the truth. You can look great (better than the first guy lol) while being all natural. But yes, you'll never get that same look as the bodybuilders or physique guys without the gear. I've taken more than a few cycles over the years. I felt my best and looked almost as good when I put in the real work and stayed natural for years on end. Yet it was hard work, nutrition, sleep, cardio and lifts... all regimented and perfect. When I was juicing, I would just eat like a monster and crush weights.
Bro. Don’t let if phase you. At the end of the day. Your living healthy. And not putting chemicals or enhancements in your body. So you’ll be around for the long run. Where as these juice heads might look good for about 10 years. But then there body’s will start failing them.
They Also get a lot of nice presents: Karma is a bitch, They will be ill sooner, enlarged hearts, atrium fibrillation, psychologicial problems, higher cancer risk...
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"! This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that! You are NOT FOOLING us! Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are! Stay natural buddy!
I do not belive that 1 in 30 men take steroids it's far less than that. Most men don't even go to the gym it's defiantly less than 1 in 30 men go to the gym.
yeah I agree in the UK at least. Even amongst fit people. I know a bunch of guys who work in physical fitness, and others who are big into fitness (I am not one of them, I'm lazy as fuck) not one of them takes gear. Maybe one of them might take it on the sly but I highly doubt it. Steroids are much bigger in the USA as the USA has a very disturbing, selfish, nasty culture (watch the documentary Bigger Stronger Faster) which we don't have so much in the EU.
Calling them 'small' and 'losers' doesn't help... It only reflects the way you judge yourself. If you love yourself, you won't insult these guys. They took steroids because they felt they weren't good enough. We all feel that at times. Support your brothers. And it's media like 'Men's Health' who thrive on this culture of self-judgement!! They want us striving for the chemically-enhanced bodies in their magazine.
It’s true what Leo says we do judge ourselves, in the end you will decide your fate, Heaven or Hell, black and white, Good And evil, these principalities, you decide weather you life forever or perish with the actions you do here in life, Life, Everything you have ever known, More Than mere words can explain,LIFE,Jesus is alive he truly died for you and me that we might have Everlasting Life, Life Forever, Think about it...❤️🥰🌺🌸 if you truly want to know God You’ll Know Him ❤️🥰🌺🌸 Leos just being nice and y’all over here caught up in something else, you know life all comes down to Love that’s what’s it’s all about and judging others ain’t ur job that’s Gods Job, you judge yourselves by your actions, Living in Sin is not good, don’t expect to be with God while holding on to sin. I’m small and have taken steroids and they have changed me ever since, I plan on going back on em just cause the first time I didn’t do it right so I messed up, but that’s ok I Thank God I’m alive, perhaps I’ll got back on to do it the right way if God permits❤️
“If you love yourself, you won’t insult these guys” ❤️ Love ❤️ knowing we all seek love, Want love, this is true, we’re all the same, except we’re not it’s our different experiences and stories that make us different, in the end it’s simple but it’s not, it’s this feeling... now tell me what’s the greatest feeling?
That opening text. How the hell do your estimations go from 60 THOUSAND to 1 MILLION. Talk about a gap in research ability. That's like asking your buddy how much gas there is in the tank to make sure they'll make it and he responds "anywhere between 1 and 100 miles to go" - Seems legit.
I'm new and 10 months in from weight lifting. I'm already as big as this guy. He is probably doing all the wrong exercises. All you need is the compound movements and progressive overload, to get big fast.
I worked in a community pharmacy for four and a half years and in that time I maybe gave out 10 steroid packs that whole time. Compared with Heroin needle packs that I would give out nearly daily
So "fewer aches and pains" is great. What they don't tell you is that even though your muscles recover faster, your tendons and ligaments CANNOT keep up with your body. As your muscles get stronger, your tendons and ligaments DO NOT, at least not as fast. Essentially = injuries! Be careful! :)
I really don’t understand why the London account guy was using steroids. His goals were easily attainable without that. The guys that want to be super big at least it makes a bit of sense
Henry Wartemberg some ppl don’t have as much time as others do.if he works in the financial industry in London, it could very well be the case. I guess he just wants a shortcut. I have a lot of friends who work in Canary Wharf who get off work sometimes at midnight and would have to get back work at 7 or 10 again in the morning. Imagine with that time schedule and you have to sleep and such, it is really understandable that some people just go for steroids straight away when in fact, you still need to train really hard to achieve certain goals even if you are on steroids.
It's a shame that when they start talking about "side effects "of testosterone, they don't clarify that they are referring to supraphysiologic doses. If an older man has very little testosterone production left, and supplies his body with the amount he produced when he was 20 (100-200mg per week), there will be nothing but benefit and no side effects considering that he is just supplying what he was already producing naturally when he was younger.
This is almost never discussed. Our bodies are over 60 percent water. We need it to survive but if you drink too much you can get hyponatremia which is life threatening. Spinach is good for you….eat too much and you get kidney stones. Wine is full of antioxidants and a glass with dinner is healthy. Drink a bottle everyday and the effects on the body and mind are a thousand times worse than steroid abuse. There is a liquor store around every corner even though 400 people die every day in the USA from alcohol abuse. Alcohol is socially acceptable though. Sugar is socially acceptable as well and look how many people abuse it. Sugar abuse is way more detrimental to the body than steroid abuse is. Point is EVERYTHING in excess is bad for you. Key is moderation. Every time there is a documentary on the effects of steroids they interview people who abuse it and take multiple compounds at extremely high doses for long periods of time and never cycle. Id like to see some research done on people who take a moderate or even a higher than normal dose of just testosterone and cycle properly allowing the body to recover between cycles.
What’s sad is the people they interviewed for this piece who take/took steroids look natural. Especially the accountant, I’m an accountant btw. These are the guys who don’t understand what they’re taking or most importantly WHY. They’re not pushing they’re body passed natural limits clearly and in my opinion should not be using a substance which informed clear minded individuals use to do just that. Push they’re bodies past what’s natural! The accountant they interviewed even said he didn’t feel like he belonged in the gym before he started using steroids. That is clearly a person who does not have a competitive nature, was never really athletic or lifted weights before he started taking steroids. Obviously the producers of this piece have an agenda and they found the perfect people to fit they’re narrative. Another biased piece by the media not substantiated by facts...
They're = They are Their = Possession There = Location Please, as an accountant, you should learn these differences. I fear for someone's finances if you're unable to distinguish the difference between those.
hypercatjohn wow, didn't know this was a grammar lesson. Perhaps YOUR intellect would be better suited to another discussion channel as YOU'RE clearly above us dumb weightlifters! Did i get all of that grammatically correct???
Muscle Man I think the point of the video was it's not just the pro's that do it now. It's now being used by the average lifter in the gym. That's why they're calling it an epidemic because it's people that don't understand the drug that are taking it. The guys in the video don't look huge but they seem to have their heads screwed on about the safety aspect which is important.
Danny Bradley i agree they seem to be thinking safety first, but clearly, the accountant (2nd guy) does not have his head right. He states how he felt out of place at the gym and now that he takes them, he belongs. His self esteem issues really need to be dealt with. And yes, i am a doctor of psychology. An its always been like that tho. I started lifting in 1977 and theres always been people taking roids who dont have a clue. Its just seems something becomes an epidemic when more mainstream people are affected. Any problem is awept under the carpet when a sub-group is affected..
And if you can't train for some reason you won't go backwards like you would with the bb drugs. You keep the gains way way longer by training without the drugs, and will last way longer in the sport.
@@bossboy191919 Being natural only takes you so far, the human body can only sustain a certain amount of muscle mass at (insert arbitrary bodyfat percentage), there are countless studies on this, as well as studies on the diminished returns of the amount of muscle gains in kg per training year.
@@dx5242 of course your body won't grow muscle mass forever. In fact there is a hormon which makes us loose our gains, that's how we keep our weight, otherwise we would just uncontrollably gain muscle mass until we wouldn't be able to move anymore. And don't think steroids will get you further, you can get more mass quicker, which is an issue, cause people also get too strong too quickly for their tendons and bones to follow up. Don't even get me started on the long term problems it causes. Yeah short term you might get some quicker results, but at what price.
@@dx5242 lol you just answered why you shouldn't take roids. Your body can only realistically hold a certain amount weight, whether that's fat or muscle. Looking good should only be a part of why you live the lifestyle. It should be about building a lifestyle of health and wellness for our lifetime.
Simon Roome yeah bull shit. Think Arnold would look as he did with no lifting? Stop tossing the name science just to make your argument valid. Give us a link
@@jayaseto u idiot, its true that you build more muscles on roids without lifting, than a natty lifter. U can read it up everywhere its scientific based
This is absolutely appalling reporting. You are interviewing guys that clearly have only the most rudimentary knowledge of what they are doing. Neither of these two is anything that isn't achievable with proper gym and diet. The Men's Health guys hardly look 'healthy' themselves. Why didn't you go and speak to people that actually have a clue about these things? Very disappointing.
But these guys are the majority of steroid users.. Just because someone is taking a drug doesn't necessarily mean they know how to use it correctly, or to not abuse it. Look at smokers, drug addicts, obese people and many others in society where an addiction, or in this case using a drug a lot, does not correlate with positive outcome. Now the proper roid heads you're used to are the top 1% of body builders. Don't forget those people have competed in actual shows and most likely have trainers and dieticians and actually go to their doctors for blood work.
@@Unavalivle yeah i agree, some of the top 1% are actually very well educated because they have to be to be competitive. The real epidemic is with these gullible, lazy people who think that injecting some test into your ass will do all the work for you. The roids aren't for me - I love pushing my shitty natty physique as far as I can go for a laugh, and I'll retire with a full bag of testicles. But yeah, if you're willing to sacrifice a lot to get to the top 1%, respect to you. It's a totally different mindset to these average joes in the video.
Such high looks pressure on young men in their 20s. It gets easier in your 30s - if you keep your hair and stay slim then you're already above 70% of men in their 30s.
Mike (when bulking) looks just like a regular dude who goes to the gym 5-6 a week for about 3-5 years on a consistent basis and eats well. It's really a waste for him to damage his body for something that can be done naturally but might take longer. Edit: Didn't even realize suit guy had used before.
the guy in the suit does look like he lift, a little. It's just not very impress and it's something you can do naturally with a year of working out. The doctor doesn't even know he is on roids lol
Taking steroids does not translate into becoming a mass monster, there are so many people who have been taking them for years and they look average. It's all about cycle, dosage and genetics
plus god knows what he did his liver enzymes were all fucked up hahaha if u do a cycle of 500mg of test there is no way ur liver enzymes should be out of whack, 0 gains liver fucked wtf was he doing pro hormones and eating like pure shit
You can't stop them. All you can do is educate them. I've taken a ton of steroids in my life. I'm 41 and in the best shape of my life. I'm not saying steroids are good for you, but I'm not necessarily saying they are bad. Take this into consideration... Testosterone is in your body already naturally. Things like caffeine and alcohol are completely foreign to our systems and are considered poisons. So which do you consider more safe? It's NONE of them. It's all in the amount of the drug consumed. 1 shot of testosterone wont hurt you but neither will a cup of coffee or beer, but 50 shots of testosterone in a short time or 50 cups of coffee or shots of whiskey will definitely not help your health. The mixing of steroids with hard drugs and designer PED's is what puts you at risk of developing health problems. I bet you can take 1,000,000 men and give them all 1 shot of test a week for years and they would be perfectly fine. Why that wouldn't work is because of all the addictive nature of our minds that tell us that if a little test is good then more must be even better. That's when you realize the addictive mind process has started and its damn near impossible to not also go out and buy some debol or tren to "Amp" up the little test you already started. Well hell. You might as well go buy some tranquilizers to help you fall asleep now and some amphemines to wake u up in the morning. Now lets not forget all the painkillers we need now because of over training, the not sleeping. Now does anybody out there understand where I'm going with this?
There should have been a more in depth explanation of the immediate and long term side effects. You interviewed a user with little to no knowledge on the topic, and a local dealer. This really felt like a 10 minute video of you complaining or being worried about how dangerous this thing is and how very little you know about it.
Clearly it's websites/companies like Men's Health that drive a lot of men to use steroids. In making this video, they should have interviewed a model or athlete they've previously promoted or worked with in some way to talk about their steroid use. I recognise that most people who use steroids won't ever look like Phil Heath, but it would have been good to have included a third person who actually did have a physique which couldn't be obtained naturally, okay maybe not a mass monster but someone with a figure like John Meadows or along those lines.
I thought everybody has heard of the saying "two wrongs dont make a right", but clearly you haven't... or maybe just didn't understand it. Neither drinking alcohol, nor smoking, nor taking steroids is good for anybody, period.
I am not buying the steroids. The most I ever deadlifted was 125KG I would rather deadlift just 125KG than use steroids and deadlift 180KG and damage my heart muscle.
Malcolm Bartram Its actually a massive misconception that using steroids damages your heart. As long as you have the right dose, stack, cycle and PCT it’s actually very beneficial. These people you see getting enlarged hearts and very high BP are using way too much
Not really. He was skinny before and became average muscular person after a couple of cycles. Maybe he was eating bad, not enough dedication and proper training. It also obv comes down to your genetics and running a couple of test cycles doesnt make a huge difference and turns you into mr olympia over a year. Using testo only is also the lightest steroid depending on your doses. Mr olympia freaks they all use test, tren, anvar, dianabol, HGH, fat burning steroids and what not.
I can't even afford protein shakes yet I'm in better shape than these guys... just work hard my dudes, you'll be a better man at the end of the day for it.
Simon Brand what I’m saying is that his physique is perfectly attainable naturally he probably just doesn’t want to work as hard or he doesn’t know how to train for mass
Simon Brand honestly you only need an hour or two a day to train to get really big naturally it’s all about how you program you workouts you must make sure to get adequate rest and make sure to work for hypertrophy. Many people never get big because they either overtrain or they don’t program their programs correctly for hypertrophy. Look up the TH-camd vitruvian physique. While his career is fitness he only trains for an hour or two a day and he made a great video on natural vs steroid using body builders backed up by scientific studies. It’s a pretty darn interesting video. But yeah most people don’t have the dedication to get big
Simon Brand I’m aware a lot of you tubers lie but watch the video it’s really interesting and it gives a scientific based way on telling if someone is natty or not. Also, he is 6’0 and he is only 170-175 when he leans down for a comp. Most steroid body builders his height would be 190-200 pounds for a comp.
The best idea is to use steroids under doctor supervision and obtain your drugs legally from the Pharmacy/Chemist. This is possible in some countries but not in most. This should be a standard in most all countries throughout the west. Banning the use of these drugs in competitive sport should remain the same. Open discussion is important so people understand the risks and what they are getting into. Especially younger guys. There should be a minimum age for use and I would say that should be set at age 25. 25 years of age is when your testosterone levels begin to decline. For a 40+ year old man there should be NO restrictions on obtaining a testosterone prescription from a doctor. Men function so much better mentally and physically on a healthy level of testosterone. Once you hit the upper 40's your test production is very low and when this happens quality of life and drive starts to decline. There are some unicorn men who have no issues there but its very rare .
+Money Bags No they aren't... They are great if you use them to supplement your diet. Like when you're cutting and it can be hard to get enough protein via your food. The problem is some people use them to try and make up for their shitty diet.
I don't take steroids, but how many of these 60,000 /1,000,000 men are older or younger with naturally low testosterone?? Do we want men to have miserable lives?? Doctors in the UK don't want to give any men testosterone even it could change their lives for the better, most men would pay for the treatment just to become normal again. How many women get therapy for menopause?? Perhaps you should do a documentary for how many women get hormone therapy in the UK??
I have done steroids it is amazing fast gains, energy, but side effects as acne, small balls, gyno, aggresive, but i really liked and enjoyed taking them, i tried most roids, but i am happy now 3 years off and remain training as natural, at the end natural is the way to go to stay out of health risks, at the end you are just want a healthy life style and a good shape, and you can easly reach a Nice body beeing natty.
Small doses are often safe. I have been on 250mg/week for 3 years now and except my blood values just above what's normal everything looks good. Granted, it's very individual and for some people the rbc will skyrocket even on TRT dosages.
@@charleyboy2091 yes you can use 3 months test e and use hcg to keep your balls normal size and to recover your natural test quicker, also use nolvadex when you are done with test e
@@frenkie6446 would you lose all your gains for being on the cycle when you come off? Or do you carry on and gain muscle on top of what you already have? Thanks for the reply man, really informative!
This is why it’s hard to appreciate nice physiques these days. These guys who have slightly above average bodies by taking roids make it so you can’t even tell who is and isn’t taking them (unless they’re a huge bodybuilder).
Oh shit you're so uninformed. Just taking steroids isnt enough to get a good physique, you need to stick to your diet and you need to keep lifting. hense why all Olympians are steroid users but not all steroid users are olympians
actually a study was done which showed men who didnt exercise but were on steroids in fact put on more muscle than the men who were not on steroids and did exercise. you have to be incredibly more dedicated as a natural lifter than as a roider.
I just hope that we can build a more natural competitive industry in Ireland! Being a natural competitor there's no way I can match up to standards in physiques these days
I don't blame people going on juice, the price u pay for these shite over priced, waste of money supplements with some juice head on the bottle promising you the world is a scam, least u get ur moneys worth on juice
I’ve seen thousands of young blokes over the years join the gym, train nearly every day on pointless isolation exercises, fail to look like Arnold in three months then go on the gear. Never even got near to reaching their natural best, never squatted hard, never cleaned and pressed hard, never deadlifted hard, never rested properly...how the hell did they ever expect to grow? Laziness and ignorance.
Yeah, they make up a program up, as they go a long. I know someone who does 30 different weight exercises lol. Mainly like you said, isolation exercises.
I completely agree. Those bro split routines do nothing for 99% of people without steroids. I did that sort of routine for years before getting into powerlifting. Now I'm far stronger in my 40s than I ever was in my 20s.
It's no wonder people don't believe REAL natty lifters who have good genetics and look good. When guys are taking steroids and don't look special. What an absolute waste of money, waste of health, its pathetic if you ask me. But.... That's my opinion
Agreed Kiran. These bastards have such low self esteem they have to inject themselves with shit, destroy their bodies and have a mediocre physique at the end of it. Then us naturals get lumped in with these losers.
Yes, the first guy is obviously bulking and he is pretty huge though he screams bro splits and bicep curls as his delts suck. The second guy probably just shoots the worst kind of test into his ass and does cardio, his physique is attainable naturally within 6 months EASILY by just circuit training, protein and noob gains, it's pathetic. If you risk your health and don't even go pro AT LEAST have an above average Joe physique lol.
Kiran Chambers yea, the second guy says he took them because he felt like he didnt belong at the gym. Then he needs a fitness center, like planet fitness, instead of a gym. Planet fitness has a no judge atmosphere policy where he might find more people like himself. Becasue he clearly is taking the roids to justify his own insecurities.
This is a joke the people they are interviewing don’t have a clue , they wouldn’t know what needle was what by gauge , and do not know what they are taking I wonder how many will talk about pct as well , this is a joke and branding bodybuilding and builders the same as these these people really need to train for years and do some learning , ha ha these people need to go back to start
CMW Chris woodward Are you thick? This is about men in the uk using steroids it's not actually about body builders as such. Yeah cuz men who chest are so cool Yeah and so big and so hard working but these bodybuilders you admire fucking cheat to get taht look just like these men.
working out for 6 years without steroids, people always ask me if I juice it's sad how not being a natty is such a norm that everyone assumes anyone that is big is on something
"My argument would be that you can do all these things naturally." You can. But the implication here is that you can end up having the same physique as someone on roids as a natty. Imagine being this ill informed.
One of my friends was a so called "small guy who could no put on weight". Yea after a year in the gym he looked way above average and he did not take any of that shit. I always felt that being natural looking , meaning slimmer is way better not to mention healthier. Some of these absurdly big guys get out of breath just by talking to you. Then again a lot of normal guys actually take steroids , they look natural and have a good physic , but they are not abusing anything just using it smartly. And in a lot of cases they use them if their natural testosterone production is a bit lower which happens quite more often than people think.
These are the worst kind of steroid users and bring a bad stigma onto the people that juice for respectable reasons. The first guy looks like all he does at the gym is 45 minutes on the treadmill and the second dude just looks like someone lifting 3-5 times a week for 1-1.5 years. They didn't juice to push their body to new limits after 5+ years of intense discipline in nutrition and training like competitive bodybuilding and strength athletes do. They simply juiced to cheat and get quick results.
Oprichnik2 yea, thats one of the misconceptions of so many who comment on here screaming STEROIDS! TH-cam search an 80s bbc interviww with Tom Platz. Platz said it best, "steroids don't turn a volkswagon into a ferrari. If just taking steroids made someone a champion, then there would be a helluva lot of champions walking around!"
Lol @ the 2nd basically killing him self for gains that can be achieved in a month .that had to be the worst physique I’ve ever seen for a steroid user , if ur gonna take steroids at least look like u take steroids wtf 😭😭
Someone once said to me its like being in a casino winning on every hand but you can never check out. You either keep going forever or forfeit all the gains.
@@chrisfalx3251 You would still lose a lot of muscle, the testicles and adrenal glands cannot and should not produce so much testosterone, you would likely get a rebound of estrogen and gain fat, lose fat and develope gynecomastia even if you still trained, because esogenous hormones, even in small quantities, are not something the body is intended to take and are more powerful than a lot of other types of molecules
During uni I had a couple of guys I knew who were just starting training in the gym who were frustrated that they weren’t getting stronger (they were barely training and eating shit) so they immediately and I’m talking like less than a month in were discussing taking steroids. It’s worrying how they seem to be seen as the easy fix, I think a huge amount of that is due to the Hollywood physique that everybody feels they are expected to achieve (and I’m no different here in being affected by the pressure we all feel to look better, not trying to sound above anybody) we all see these physiques and are told how quickly actors (who 100% are using PED’s, dehydration and other cinematic effects to look better in that day of filming) achieved them so people who don’t spend a lot of time at the gym get frustrated with the lack of results and turn to steroids to bulk up quicker rather than following the commitment and time requirements to achieve it naturally.
100% of actors take peds? Do you live with them? Sound like just a hater. Don t blame others if you train like your in vacantion and eat the same. And if you take small doses then is nothing wrong. A lot of old man are on trt and they feel great
@@romanianhustler3309 1) it’s you’re 2) I said “actors who are 100% on PED’s” not “100% of actors are on PED’s” 3) I never mentioned myself in comparison to actors progress it was literally a comment about how it seems Hollywood physiques have warped people’s perspective on how quickly those results can be achieved to new lifters first beginning their training. “If you take small doses there’s nothing wrong” words spoken by literally no medical professionals, the comparison to TRT is fucking ludicrous. TRT is a specific dose designed for that person off the basis of doctor monitored regular blood tests and you will be on it for life you’re still fucking your natural test production by doing it, it’s not some thing you can do and still be totally fine coming off it in a year. By taking small doses what you’re actually doing is putting a lot of stress on your organs for literally no pay off all that will do is have your body register it as “oh I have x amount of testosterone I don’t need to produce any naturally today” hence why actual cycles need to be significant doses over natural levels of production. So effectively you’re just wasting what could have been an actual cycle on like 6 months of tiny doses, but I bet you didn’t even consider that you do actually have a limit on the amount of cycles you can run before severely damaging your natural hormone production as from the lack of literacy or knowledge displayed I’m guessing you’re about 16 just hit your first 225 bench and think you hit your natty limit lmao go do some research before you fuck your body up my guy
Mens health educating us about steroids 🤦 Mens health useing models that clearly take steroids on front covers displaying unrealistic body types creating unrealistic expectations i would say part of the problem
Listen pal it takes balls to say words in peoples face that use dont have i take roids but thats nothing to do with the fact that i have balls and would kick ur head in on or off roids so u can sit there with ur 100% skinny ectomerph body and be a keyboard gangester and for that first fella funny caz he dosent have anything to say since i told him im from dublin bunch of pussies.
If one does it to enhance their maximised physique further then its fine but the problem is people do it as a shortcut or trying to use it without putting in maximal effort ie the second dude. You should remain natural for at least 4-5 years of hard training and nutrition before considering anything.
ROKMC Rec. "You should have 4 to 5 years of hard training before considering steroids." That's the issue - most people are too lazy to even stick to a gym routine for a few months, which is why so many people are out of shape. No way are they going to be able to put in 5 years of proper training, and they know it, so they take steroids to get 5 years of results in 6-12 months
The best part is that he said he took three beatings because of the side effects, I don’t know how one can be that delusional into thinking they’re anywhere near big.
Lol they increase blood pressure high blood pressure is linked to increased violence. Elevated test levels can as well. Like during mating season in the animal kingdom. The only steroid to actually make me truly I would take on the world was tren.
I’m sooo thankful for videos like these that take me away from t! I considered steroids until I watched videos like these where the drawbacks are mentioned. Working out for me isn’t a way to be bigger, bulkier, or look a way. It’s for my own health, meaning steroids are out
Lol, this is such an insecure thing to say. Steroids are for people who want to use steroids. Being fucking “man enough” to lift some weights and drink a protein shake. Ok Braveheart 😂
Amazed how much bad publicity steroids still get. Concentrate on alcohol, smoking, class a drugs and fast food first before claiming steroids are so bad. Taken carefully they are no worse than any over the counter prescription drug.
jonathan l Wtf is wrong with you guys. I lift and I'm smaller than that guy..... I'm all natural but I lift weights like you. Nasty community the weight lifting community is.
JW he is on here talking about steroids though all I said was he looks like he doesn't lift weights so has no real experience to speak of . Sorry for upsetting you snowflake .
4:12 "you can achive al these things naturally it just takes longer" hah hard to believe ths guy works for mens health he clearly doesn't know what hes talking about
I can totally understand someone who competes in something like Strongman or a competitive sport that allows it, but taking it for recreational lifting... that's crazy! I'd never take it and I work out 4-5 times a week, i'm only 5ft 5inch and it takes me a few sessions on each part of the body to even advance 1KG but i'd still never take steroids.
“Success is a journey, not a destination. The doing is often more important than the outcome.” I feel sorry for these guys that they think they need steroids. Stay Natural guys it’s not worth it.
I've trained naturally for 21 years, 33 now. Tried steroids once and it wasn't for me, unless you stay on them you lose most of what you gained so in that respect it's just a facade you're forced to keep up. Funny thing is that I've trained so hard for so long that I'm bigger and stronger than most steroid users, I had 7 weeks off training during the first lockdown and lost all of about 2kg bodyweight and 5% max on my lifts because of how well naturally conditioned my body is. Nothing better than benching 200kg and seeing the kids juiced to the gills barely managing 130 and you just know they'll give up for good the minute they come off cycle. Earn true strength and size and it'll put you on top for decades. Add 5kg to your lifts for many, many years and there won't be many juice heads who can outperform you no matter how many drugs they're on.
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Fairly ironic considering Men's Health has had so many men on their covers that are both using steroids and on top of that the pictures have perfect angle, makeup and photoshop.
LMFAO seriously... Between the actual Covers and the content they put online here, I'd say it's a lot more than just "fairly" ironic 😆
Chef Rush, for example... Yup, looks 2,222% natty to me! Totally attainable without taking anything other than some good ol whey protein! 🙄
Haha so true
Ah the fitness industry in a nut shell.
@Avon Barksdale excuse me, chef got his body from his fantastic 20,000 calorie diet and 2222 push ups per day 🤣
@@darrenkelly7271 😂😂😂
He just forgot to mention the 2,222mg of stacked gear he pins every single morning before those push-ups even enter his mind 😅 Probably takes exactly 22mg of certain orals a few times a day as well lmaooo
Takes gear...looks worse than if they trained regularly for 2 years
This
Nope not true.
@@arniekando6846 well yeah it is true
@@arniekando6846 uhh If trained right and also got a good nutrition, then yes.
For real that's just lazy. It's like cheating on a test and barely passing.
Me, trained for 25 years natural. No gear, ever. Yep some guy comes along, jumps on the gear , bigger than me in 6 months. Hmmmm can i tell you how many of these guys come along, swell up, then and for whatever reason, dissapear. Man I gave up counting them. Stay natural, you will be healthy, look good and out live all the flash and crash junkies out there. Keep it rolling guys, all clean and make the most of what ya momma gave ya.
Exactly!
Amen to that!
True
Don't forget that you can actually USE your looks when meeting women.
Go on roids, lose your libido.
Jacob Holmes us nattys dont need juice to get hard.
second dude needs a refund on his gear
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I can somewhat understand if you have good size and that dick skin sick veiny striated look after running gear. But to look like that, and risk all the sides like gyno and your dick not functioning properly I just don't see the upside.
@Kill Slug looks like someone is having a roid rage...
I think the gear works fine , people just doesn't live the proper life style
He stopped, that's why he's skinny looking
4:11 You can do it naturally to a certain level, but MANY physiques displayed in the media and in magazines like Men's Health are actually unachievable naturally.
so true Ancap2112 so sick of people saying even Mens Health is achievable naturally, its Possible , but not with out super good genetics and lots and lots of hard work/ sleep/ eating perfectly (no junk at all) People today think their purely natural, LOL what a joke. If u guys don't believe me try to maintain a lot of size and get fukn shredded ( 3%) body fat or so like in Mens Health. Just try it, see how fukn hard it is, if even possible, bet u will either be bulky and kinda big and smooth, or ripped and Tiny as fuk
@@imaginarynumber8520 its easy to be lean (just starve yourself), its easy to be buff (keep training), but its almost impossible naturally to be both. because body homeostasis would start to prioritize consuming muscle mass as energy source below 10% bf.
@@bilibiliism exactly! These kids claiming super low body fat don't have big muscles and the ones who have big muscles don't have low body fat. If you want both, steroid is the way otherwise you look like straight out of Nazi concentration cap on natural cut.
@Lee Hollebon not true lad
you need to bulk for 2-3 years, get huuge, then do 2 cycles of steroids to cut and you look like captain america
That second guy😂😂😂...bro that’s first year newbie gains. Just work out consistently
It's embarrassing. Did he even go to the gym? Looks like he took roids to train for Tough Mudder 😂 fucking hell
🤣🤣🤣
@@captaindelculo1731
He went off. He quit. Didn't you watch the video?
@@nsq2487 not really sure what you're getting at here? I obviously watched the video and he's discussing the time when he was taking steroids?
I looked better at 15 no joke lmao
this dude had liver problems, he looked so average that the doctor did not even think about roids but about alcohol. Sad story
Of course Nicolas, we know you're huge and you lift 3,000 kg weights.
Has it been established beyond doubt it was the roids that caused the liver damage? The orally taken ones are heavy on the liver, but intramuscular jabs not so much. More often than not casual gym goers take gear to get big, to show off at parties where alco and drugs such as amphetamine or cocaine are consumed in hectolitres.
@@davidaleksidze3381 Why were you acting as if he's stroking his own dick? The second guy took roids but look exactly or even worse than any gym goer
@@FlamingHunterZ so? Let him do waht he wants dimwit
I mean he lives in the U.K. alcoholism and binge drinking are much more common health problems than steroid abuse.
Hes wearing a golds gym tank top. #1 sign of someone on roids
#1 sign your a wank 😂
@@andyfaulds uh oh, you have a membership at golds gym dont you. Lol just playn
Gymshark*
so when do they talk to the steroid users?
Nick Dixon lol!!!
lololololol
srsly what I was thinking... they pinned to get natty results lol
we both know the dude at 2:00 doesnt look bad at all. special for the dosage hes using^^
he looks like a natty guy who pushed the weight on compound lifts for a year or two and didn't eat like shit, kinda sad really
wait is that second guy just messing about? He has ZERO muscles in those pics..what he's achieved can be achieved by anyone very easily.. this is so sad
no mate hes just got a wispier build i guess
Pathetic
@@sacredtruth4870 People do that?
that's because if you're not training very efficiently and eating sufficiently, the drugs you're taking are no more useful than paracetamol.
alex, play despacito
Second guy had faster results in his liver than on his body
Probably was too much of a wimp to do injections
literally burst out laughing in a crowded room
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"!
This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that!
You are NOT FOOLING us!
Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are!
Stay natural buddy!
@@steroidsR4losers I think it’s a self-esteem issue.
ROIDERS are FAKE & UNHEALTHY!
NATURALS are LEGIT & HEALTHIER!
Stay natural buddy!
superhuman? boi looking like he been lifting naturally for 2-3 years. These are the type of people who have never trained naturally at all
lifting naturally for 3 years would still make better progress than this dude. This dude took steroid to look average lol
@@khoado123 Yeah 😂
No gains
@ quarter rep, half rep has its use in training. Lots of professional bodybuilders use half rep or quarter rep to build tension on muscles, they don't need to make full efforts to achieve hypertrophy.
@ it's not true, even if you are training for 6 months on roids, quarter rep help a lot.
the sad thing is they look just like an average dude who goes to the gym...
Khoa Do one of them does, other guy is well above average but not outside of naturally possible. Been close to his size from lifting etc but took 5-6 years of lifting 17-23.
C even though British women are probably hotter than the women from where ever you’re from
no the sad thing is now that's considered the norm
Not really, these dudes were tiny at one point. I used to be 120 and never been able to gain weight. Now i look like the average person because of steroids. So just because you take steroids doesnt mean you need to be all beffed up
@@zaloalvarez6947 "never been able to gain weight" what a load of bullshit. Try eating clean 8-10 times a day, sleeping at least 7hrs a day and lift then tell me the result. The "hard gainer" term is a load of bullshit.
I don't mind people at the top of the game sports people powerlifting strongman taking what ever they want but I see a lot of kids or teens basically just walked through the door at the gym and starting to train and start taking stuff before they have even done a month of training!
Ewan Burke a big issue in society today is that so many want that quick fix, the "i want it NOW attitude. They dont have the patience, the dedication and the balls to put in the work. I see it everyday in the gym, especially in the younger crowd. Many kids today arent taught to work hard for something, but that is a parental discussion not for here...lol
I don't care if begginers lift more weight than me... We'll se who can lift his dick in 10 years haha
clako clakson yea, i agree. Im not there to impress anyone like the buff boys at the gym. For most its just an ego thing. Their form sucks and I'd like to see their joints and tendons in a few years. These are usually the guys who cry steroids because someone looks better than them doing lifting properly.
Muscle Man totally agree. One of the keys to spot this kind of user is a guy with decent muscle development but shit form and knowledge. They will eventually stop using for health issues and loose all their gains, and they will have lost time and money.
Muscle Man your right
Hilarious how that one guy fucked up his liver to have the appearance of a 6 month gym-goer lmao.
so funny man let me tell ya
He probably had elevated levels of ast alt which is just strain from using to many orals. That guy had no idea how to cycle. He needed better guidance.
And of course he's the one talking about getting into bar fights and being more aggressive due to steroids lmao
O C its not hilarious but notable
That's an insult to 6 month gym goers lol
I've been working out since I was 22, now 39. Never took steroids, but considered them a lot. Although I'm at 112kg reasonably lean (for a natty) and my strength is better than ever, you can't reach the granite hard look you get from steroids. The round full muscle bellies, the pumped look all day long, the extra strength, the recovery,...
For me it's insulting when the typical Test E/Deca beef head talks about his consistency and hard work being the main factor. Cut the bull man, I work out 5-6 days a week for years, my diet is on point and we ALL know that you wouldn't have reached those results without the steroids. Even if you kept everything else on the same level.
That's the truth.
You can look great (better than the first guy lol) while being all natural.
But yes, you'll never get that same look as the bodybuilders or physique guys without the gear.
I've taken more than a few cycles over the years.
I felt my best and looked almost as good when I put in the real work and stayed natural for years on end.
Yet it was hard work, nutrition, sleep, cardio and lifts... all regimented and perfect.
When I was juicing, I would just eat like a monster and crush weights.
What is your height ,man?
Bro. Don’t let if phase you. At the end of the day. Your living healthy. And not putting chemicals or enhancements in your body. So you’ll be around for the long run. Where as these juice heads might look good for about 10 years. But then there body’s will start failing them.
They Also get a lot of nice presents: Karma is a bitch, They will be ill sooner, enlarged hearts, atrium fibrillation, psychologicial problems, higher cancer risk...
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"!
This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that!
You are NOT FOOLING us!
Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are!
Stay natural buddy!
They’re treating steroids like it’s an illegal drug like heroin... “so you just keep it in a cupboard?” Well duh why wouldn’t you
same ppl that think the fbi is gonna come through after cracking premiere pro
I prefer to keep it tucked in my anus just in case I get raided by the DEA.
@@Zesrii is that reliable, should i comsider it,
anothrdude it's either that or paying a expensive yearly license, your choice
@Chris J.P. Black its illegal to sell it, buying it and possession is legal in uk haha
1 in 30 men in the UK are not on roids. What a load of bollocks.
Probably taken from a sample size of 50 men, right outside the gym
I just commented the exact thing
^ woah ... Roid rage
Go to any town centre, most bigger guys you see will be on roids. It's fucking RIFE in the UK. It's at least 1 in 50.
1 in 30 men Are on roids are u fucking blind? U twat
I do not belive that 1 in 30 men take steroids it's far less than that. Most men don't even go to the gym it's defiantly less than 1 in 30 men go to the gym.
yeah I agree in the UK at least. Even amongst fit people. I know a bunch of guys who work in physical fitness, and others who are big into fitness (I am not one of them, I'm lazy as fuck) not one of them takes gear. Maybe one of them might take it on the sly but I highly doubt it.
Steroids are much bigger in the USA as the USA has a very disturbing, selfish, nasty culture (watch the documentary Bigger Stronger Faster) which we don't have so much in the EU.
or maybe users just dont advertise that theyre on it... i woulldnt admit it if i was on them
@@jeffshore3337 exactly, 1 in 30 people, how many in 30 go to the gym? 5-6? 1 in 5 or 6 gym users using steroids isnt unbelievable imo.
Maybe your right not sure % but what about everyone that's doing testosterone supps , amino acids , creatine all with dangerous side effects .
@@biblebill6206 amino acids and creatine aren't steroids 😂😂 protein powder too? 😂
That soreness and pain you feel is your reward for you doing weightlifting the right way with no drugs
So true, that feeling for day's of recovery, eating and resting just feels so natural and rewarding.👍
Calling them 'small' and 'losers' doesn't help... It only reflects the way you judge yourself.
If you love yourself, you won't insult these guys. They took steroids because they felt they weren't good enough. We all feel that at times. Support your brothers.
And it's media like 'Men's Health' who thrive on this culture of self-judgement!! They want us striving for the chemically-enhanced bodies in their magazine.
Bro that's just cringe af
It’s true what Leo says we do judge ourselves, in the end you will decide your fate, Heaven or Hell, black and white, Good And evil, these principalities, you decide weather you life forever or perish with the actions you do here in life, Life, Everything you have ever known, More Than mere words can explain,LIFE,Jesus is alive he truly died for you and me that we might have Everlasting Life, Life Forever, Think about it...❤️🥰🌺🌸 if you truly want to know God You’ll Know Him ❤️🥰🌺🌸 Leos just being nice and y’all over here caught up in something else, you know life all comes down to Love that’s what’s it’s all about and judging others ain’t ur job that’s Gods Job, you judge yourselves by your actions, Living in Sin is not good, don’t expect to be with God while holding on to sin. I’m small and have taken steroids and they have changed me ever since, I plan on going back on em just cause the first time I didn’t do it right so I messed up, but that’s ok I Thank God I’m alive, perhaps I’ll got back on to do it the right way if God permits❤️
“If you love yourself, you won’t insult these guys” ❤️ Love ❤️ knowing we all seek love, Want love, this is true, we’re all the same, except we’re not it’s our different experiences and stories that make us different, in the end it’s simple but it’s not, it’s this feeling... now tell me what’s the greatest feeling?
That opening text. How the hell do your estimations go from 60 THOUSAND to 1 MILLION. Talk about a gap in research ability. That's like asking your buddy how much gas there is in the tank to make sure they'll make it and he responds "anywhere between 1 and 100 miles to go" - Seems legit.
Create Channel 1 in 30 men is complete bullshit though
I will never use steroids after seeing the second dude 😂
lol so true
Tren every day, how did the rest of the saying go?
So much people just have poor response to androgens in general, i mean the dude still has head full of hair even after doing his first full cycle.
I'm new and 10 months in from weight lifting. I'm already as big as this guy. He is probably doing all the wrong exercises. All you need is the compound movements and progressive overload, to get big fast.
@@Tate525 I made better gains being natty than this guy
They got the smallest guys possible for this didn't they
4:12 - "My argument would be you can do these things naturally..."
Says the guy who looks like he never lifted a weight
MrDumbo888 look up natural lifters and compare them to unnatural lifters. Some looks aren't achievable by hard work alone.
And yet, what he said is true
Yeah he said that yet looks like someone whos never trained with weights.
Also has users all over their magazines every month pushing the "look"
not its not
@@knowwe Its absolutaly not true... You cant get as shredded and big at the same time as people on roids...
I worked in a community pharmacy for four and a half years and in that time I maybe gave out 10 steroid packs that whole time. Compared with Heroin needle packs that I would give out nearly daily
What kind of anabolic steroids ?
@@arikrotem9750 he gave only needles man not roid.
@@AS-ug2vq ur a roid
So "fewer aches and pains" is great.
What they don't tell you is that even though your muscles recover faster, your tendons and ligaments CANNOT keep up with your body.
As your muscles get stronger, your tendons and ligaments DO NOT, at least not as fast.
Essentially = injuries!
Be careful! :)
Matticus VLOGS propetides will fix that issue.
Not only that, but the sheer force on our carbon based biomechanics exceeds our natural protection barrier with the use of anabolic hormones.
Depends on how many you take
yup, just ask Calum Von Moger.
@@vinny6_9 what does he take? Just got into the gym and I like his workouts. Getting a bit down with the roid abuse tho, not my thing.
I really don’t understand why the London account guy was using steroids. His goals were easily attainable without that.
The guys that want to be super big at least it makes a bit of sense
Henry Wartemberg some ppl don’t have as much time as others do.if he works in the financial industry in London, it could very well be the case. I guess he just wants a shortcut. I have a lot of friends who work in Canary Wharf who get off work sometimes at midnight and would have to get back work at 7 or 10 again in the morning. Imagine with that time schedule and you have to sleep and such, it is really understandable that some people just go for steroids straight away when in fact, you still need to train really hard to achieve certain goals even if you are on steroids.
It's a shame that when they start talking about "side effects "of testosterone, they don't clarify that they are referring to supraphysiologic doses. If an older man has very little testosterone production left, and supplies his body with the amount he produced when he was 20 (100-200mg per week), there will be nothing but benefit and no side effects considering that he is just supplying what he was already producing naturally when he was younger.
Finally a smart dude👏🏻. My father is on trt for years and he have no problem. People talk about roids but they eat sugar alcohol:))..
@@romanianhustler3309 I have been a heavy smoker for years, i feel completely fine
This is almost never discussed. Our bodies are over 60 percent water. We need it to survive but if you drink too much you can get hyponatremia which is life threatening. Spinach is good for you….eat too much and you get kidney stones. Wine is full of antioxidants and a glass with dinner is healthy. Drink a bottle everyday and the effects on the body and mind are a thousand times worse than steroid abuse. There is a liquor store around every corner even though 400 people die every day in the USA from alcohol abuse. Alcohol is socially acceptable though. Sugar is socially acceptable as well and look how many people abuse it. Sugar abuse is way more detrimental to the body than steroid abuse is. Point is EVERYTHING in excess is bad for you. Key is moderation. Every time there is a documentary on the effects of steroids they interview people who abuse it and take multiple compounds at extremely high doses for long periods of time and never cycle. Id like to see some research done on people who take a moderate or even a higher than normal dose of just testosterone and cycle properly allowing the body to recover between cycles.
What’s sad is the people they interviewed for this piece who take/took steroids look natural. Especially the accountant, I’m an accountant btw. These are the guys who don’t understand what they’re taking or most importantly WHY. They’re not pushing they’re body passed natural limits clearly and in my opinion should not be using a substance which informed clear minded individuals use to do just that. Push they’re bodies past what’s natural! The accountant they interviewed even said he didn’t feel like he belonged in the gym before he started using steroids. That is clearly a person who does not have a competitive nature, was never really athletic or lifted weights before he started taking steroids. Obviously the producers of this piece have an agenda and they found the perfect people to fit they’re narrative. Another biased piece by the media not substantiated by facts...
They're = They are
Their = Possession
There = Location
Please, as an accountant, you should learn these differences. I fear for someone's finances if you're unable to distinguish the difference between those.
hypercatjohn wow, didn't know this was a grammar lesson. Perhaps YOUR intellect would be better suited to another discussion channel as YOU'RE clearly above us dumb weightlifters!
Did i get all of that grammatically correct???
Muscle Man I think the point of the video was it's not just the pro's that do it now. It's now being used by the average lifter in the gym. That's why they're calling it an epidemic because it's people that don't understand the drug that are taking it. The guys in the video don't look huge but they seem to have their heads screwed on about the safety aspect which is important.
Danny Bradley i agree they seem to be thinking safety first, but clearly, the accountant (2nd guy) does not have his head right. He states how he felt out of place at the gym and now that he takes them, he belongs. His self esteem issues really need to be dealt with. And yes, i am a doctor of psychology. An its always been like that tho. I started lifting in 1977 and theres always been people taking roids who dont have a clue. Its just seems something becomes an epidemic when more mainstream people are affected. Any problem is awept under the carpet when a sub-group is affected..
Danny Bradley and i also agree that's it is a problem today. Our society today is all about, "i want it and i want it NOW!"
I feel alot better about what I have and can and will ahieve naturally now tbh.
Stay natty guys.
And if you can't train for some reason you won't go backwards like you would with the bb drugs. You keep the gains way way longer by training without the drugs, and will last way longer in the sport.
You carnt look good natural you fuking idiot hence why you look shit
@@bossboy191919 Being natural only takes you so far, the human body can only sustain a certain amount of muscle mass at (insert arbitrary bodyfat percentage), there are countless studies on this, as well as studies on the diminished returns of the amount of muscle gains in kg per training year.
@@dx5242 of course your body won't grow muscle mass forever. In fact there is a hormon which makes us loose our gains, that's how we keep our weight, otherwise we would just uncontrollably gain muscle mass until we wouldn't be able to move anymore.
And don't think steroids will get you further, you can get more mass quicker, which is an issue, cause people also get too strong too quickly for their tendons and bones to follow up. Don't even get me started on the long term problems it causes.
Yeah short term you might get some quicker results, but at what price.
@@dx5242 lol you just answered why you shouldn't take roids. Your body can only realistically hold a certain amount weight, whether that's fat or muscle. Looking good should only be a part of why you live the lifestyle. It should be about building a lifestyle of health and wellness for our lifetime.
Really!!! Guys just taking the steroids & not hitting the gym. Ain’t gonna work
Actually science proved that being on gear and not working out at all can build more muscle than being a natural lifter
@@tidepods9879 Yea it's proven that gains on roids are higher even without lifting.
Simon Roome yeah bull shit. Think Arnold would look as he did with no lifting? Stop tossing the name science just to make your argument valid. Give us a link
@@jayasetowww.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
@@jayaseto u idiot, its true that you build more muscles on roids without lifting, than a natty lifter. U can read it up everywhere its scientific based
This is absolutely appalling reporting. You are interviewing guys that clearly have only the most rudimentary knowledge of what they are doing. Neither of these two is anything that isn't achievable with proper gym and diet. The Men's Health guys hardly look 'healthy' themselves. Why didn't you go and speak to people that actually have a clue about these things?
Very disappointing.
But these guys are the majority of steroid users.. Just because someone is taking a drug doesn't necessarily mean they know how to use it correctly, or to not abuse it.
Look at smokers, drug addicts, obese people and many others in society where an addiction, or in this case using a drug a lot, does not correlate with positive outcome.
Now the proper roid heads you're used to are the top 1% of body builders. Don't forget those people have competed in actual shows and most likely have trainers and dieticians and actually go to their doctors for blood work.
@@Unavalivle yeah i agree, some of the top 1% are actually very well educated because they have to be to be competitive.
The real epidemic is with these gullible, lazy people who think that injecting some test into your ass will do all the work for you.
The roids aren't for me - I love pushing my shitty natty physique as far as I can go for a laugh, and I'll retire with a full bag of testicles.
But yeah, if you're willing to sacrifice a lot to get to the top 1%, respect to you. It's a totally different mindset to these average joes in the video.
Maybe because peoole who know what they are doing don't need help or awareness?
Such high looks pressure on young men in their 20s. It gets easier in your 30s - if you keep your hair and stay slim then you're already above 70% of men in their 30s.
Plus women aren't as looks focused in their 30s.
Leigh Doughty True as I am now.
Shame you can’t control going bald.
Very true.
AOMechMarine AOMechMarine 18 and 19 year olds can still get accidentally pregnant honey ;)
Alcohol on a Friday night. a&e from 10pm onwards each weekend... the real cost to the NHS & killer is legal 🍷 🍻
exactly
Lucent Index Exactly..... Alcohol is a bigger killer than any drugs.
Making millions from alcohol that's why it'll never stop.
Ch Martin maybe Carling should build a hospital then 😂
Calling out one of society's evils to defend another is a typical reaction, still doesn't make it better.
Mike (when bulking) looks just like a regular dude who goes to the gym 5-6 a week for about 3-5 years on a consistent basis and eats well. It's really a waste for him to damage his body for something that can be done naturally but might take longer.
Edit: Didn't even realize suit guy had used before.
the guy in the suit does look like he lift, a little. It's just not very impress and it's something you can do naturally with a year of working out. The doctor doesn't even know he is on roids lol
The ironic thing is that none of these guys are big...
Taking steroids does not translate into becoming a mass monster, there are so many people who have been taking them for years and they look average. It's all about cycle, dosage and genetics
What do you expect Ronnie Coleman?lol
Everlasting Message you forgot diet.
@@JD-yt5nr right
@@EverlastMsg A lot of pros take growth hormone too.
THESE GUYS AREN’T EVEN BIG LOL the second guy doesn’t even looks like he lifts
Yea lol that's what I was thinking.
They are not even that muscular.
The second guy i was like your on gear who else was looking at his phone pictures and saying to themself he has no fucking muscle wtf is he on
plus god knows what he did his liver enzymes were all fucked up hahaha if u do a cycle of 500mg of test there is no way ur liver enzymes should be out of whack, 0 gains liver fucked wtf was he doing pro hormones and eating like pure shit
testosterone fakeinate
BHhahahhahah
Romeo, LOL. Smith Machine is a great way to build chest if you have some shoulder issues. but yeah, second guy could'v achived that naturally.
bros, come on, his lack of results with his mediocre physique suggests he was taking at least 1lbs of anavar per day
You can't stop them. All you can do is educate them. I've taken a ton of steroids in my life. I'm 41 and in the best shape of my life. I'm not saying steroids are good for you, but I'm not necessarily saying they are bad. Take this into consideration... Testosterone is in your body already naturally. Things like caffeine and alcohol are completely foreign to our systems and are considered poisons. So which do you consider more safe? It's NONE of them. It's all in the amount of the drug consumed. 1 shot of testosterone wont hurt you but neither will a cup of coffee or beer, but 50 shots of testosterone in a short time or 50 cups of coffee or shots of whiskey will definitely not help your health. The mixing of steroids with hard drugs and designer PED's is what puts you at risk of developing health problems. I bet you can take 1,000,000 men and give them all 1 shot of test a week for years and they would be perfectly fine. Why that wouldn't work is because of all the addictive nature of our minds that tell us that if a little test is good then more must be even better. That's when you realize the addictive mind process has started and its damn near impossible to not also go out and buy some debol or tren to "Amp" up the little test you already started. Well hell. You might as well go buy some tranquilizers to help you fall asleep now and some amphemines to wake u up in the morning. Now lets not forget all the painkillers we need now because of over training, the not sleeping. Now does anybody out there understand where I'm going with this?
There should have been a more in depth explanation of the immediate and long term side effects. You interviewed a user with little to no knowledge on the topic, and a local dealer. This really felt like a 10 minute video of you complaining or being worried about how dangerous this thing is and how very little you know about it.
Clearly it's websites/companies like Men's Health that drive a lot of men to use steroids.
In making this video, they should have interviewed a model or athlete they've previously promoted or worked with in some way to talk about their steroid use. I recognise that most people who use steroids won't ever look like Phil Heath, but it would have been good to have included a third person who actually did have a physique which couldn't be obtained naturally, okay maybe not a mass monster but someone with a figure like John Meadows or along those lines.
They dont even need be on juice. They still look wack on juice....alot natty looks so much better then them
As they said in the video, its a shortcut to look good quicker with less work 4:12 . They dont need to look like they take steroids
"looks good" to whom? Themselves? The other "bros" in the gym? Women want fitness, not bulk.
I would just like to put it out there that looks are subjective. What looks good to one person is not the same as what another person thinks.
But it's ok to blaze up, smoke, vape and drink 6 six packs. Just like steroid users don't give a damn about your fix, don't worry about theirs.
Grant Keller sorry we don’t really respect these roid heads
I thought everybody has heard of the saying "two wrongs dont make a right", but clearly you haven't... or maybe just didn't understand it. Neither drinking alcohol, nor smoking, nor taking steroids is good for anybody, period.
@@tony_5156 only when you figure out who is on roid and who isn't lmao
I don’t use any of that shit u mentioned hell even gave up soda for my health. Im glad i dont need these stupid and expensive fixes.
I am not buying the steroids.
The most I ever deadlifted was 125KG
I would rather deadlift just 125KG than use steroids and deadlift 180KG and damage my heart muscle.
Malcolm Bartram Its actually a massive misconception that using steroids damages your heart.
As long as you have the right dose, stack, cycle and PCT it’s actually very beneficial. These people you see getting enlarged hearts and very high BP are using way too much
Trying to look more masculine by doing the least masculine thing there is, caring what others think.
And those "others" are men.
Yes, because no masculine man has ever cared about what women think.
Andy Arnold Everyone cares about what others think. Even people who don't think they do.
Andy Arnold why even wear clothes because fuck everyone else right?
I can't believe these 2 guys are on roids. They have mediocre physiques.
poor genetics for gain, shit steroids,bad training, bad diet
Lol for real. I'm natty and I look 100x better than all these fools. Bigger and leaner. Check my fb if u think I'm bs
dwguy87 Because all they do is take steroids
Not eating right
Spleeping right
Lifting right
Lazy bois
Jonathan, u like 300lbs natty with 5% bodyfat or what? 100x lol.
most gear heads look like shit mate
BRUH THE SECOND GUY IS ON ROIDS? LMAO I CANT BREATHE 😂😂😂😂😂.
If that's all steroids do for you I'd get my money back bloke.
Not really. He was skinny before and became average muscular person after a couple of cycles. Maybe he was eating bad, not enough dedication and proper training. It also obv comes down to your genetics and running a couple of test cycles doesnt make a huge difference and turns you into mr olympia over a year. Using testo only is also the lightest steroid depending on your doses. Mr olympia freaks they all use test, tren, anvar, dianabol, HGH, fat burning steroids and what not.
Forreal
I can't even afford protein shakes yet I'm in better shape than these guys... just work hard my dudes, you'll be a better man at the end of the day for it.
Simon Brand these guys aren’t even that big tons of naturals in US are just as big as these guys the guys who take roids in the US are massive
Simon Brand what I’m saying is that his physique is perfectly attainable naturally he probably just doesn’t want to work as hard or he doesn’t know how to train for mass
Simon Brand honestly you only need an hour or two a day to train to get really big naturally it’s all about how you program you workouts you must make sure to get adequate rest and make sure to work for hypertrophy. Many people never get big because they either overtrain or they don’t program their programs correctly for hypertrophy. Look up the TH-camd vitruvian physique. While his career is fitness he only trains for an hour or two a day and he made a great video on natural vs steroid using body builders backed up by scientific studies. It’s a pretty darn interesting video. But yeah most people don’t have the dedication to get big
Simon Brand I’m aware a lot of you tubers lie but watch the video it’s really interesting and it gives a scientific based way on telling if someone is natty or not. Also, he is 6’0 and he is only 170-175 when he leans down for a comp. Most steroid body builders his height would be 190-200 pounds for a comp.
Judging by your second name it's definitely genetics, black genetics are known and proven to progress quicker than let's say a chinese man.
It really goes to show how important your genetics are for bodybuilding
Started at 15. I'm 54 now and never touched the stuff. Stronger than most of the users at my gym.
The best idea is to use steroids under doctor supervision and obtain your drugs legally from the Pharmacy/Chemist. This is possible in some countries but not in most. This should be a standard in most all countries throughout the west. Banning the use of these drugs in competitive sport should remain the same. Open discussion is important so people understand the risks and what they are getting into. Especially younger guys. There should be a minimum age for use and I would say that should be set at age 25. 25 years of age is when your testosterone levels begin to decline. For a 40+ year old man there should be NO restrictions on obtaining a testosterone prescription from a doctor. Men function so much better mentally and physically on a healthy level of testosterone. Once you hit the upper 40's your test production is very low and when this happens quality of life and drive starts to decline. There are some unicorn men who have no issues there but its very rare .
I’m sorry Dan but you don’t even look like you drink protein
+Money Bags No they aren't... They are great if you use them to supplement your diet. Like when you're cutting and it can be hard to get enough protein via your food. The problem is some people use them to try and make up for their shitty diet.
slapypenguins101 lol
Money Bags everything is gm nowadays that banana you ate in the morning is gm do some research buddy or pay attention in bio
You eat protein, not drink it.
I don't take steroids, but how many of these 60,000 /1,000,000 men are older or younger with naturally low testosterone?? Do we want men to have miserable lives?? Doctors in the UK don't want to give any men testosterone even it could change their lives for the better, most men would pay for the treatment just to become normal again. How many women get therapy for menopause?? Perhaps you should do a documentary for how many women get hormone therapy in the UK??
Bert they’re men’s health everyone would complain if they did that
@@urthofthenewsun8465 Thiiiiiiiiiiiis
I have done steroids it is amazing fast gains, energy, but side effects as acne, small balls, gyno, aggresive, but i really liked and enjoyed taking them, i tried most roids, but i am happy now 3 years off and remain training as natural, at the end natural is the way to go to stay out of health risks, at the end you are just want a healthy life style and a good shape, and you can easly reach a Nice body beeing natty.
Small doses are often safe. I have been on 250mg/week for 3 years now and except my blood values just above what's normal everything looks good. Granted, it's very individual and for some people the rbc will skyrocket even on TRT dosages.
@@RobertP2000 yes test replacement
can you cycle just once for 3 months and then come off it and then carry on as normal?
@@charleyboy2091 yes you can use 3 months test e and use hcg to keep your balls normal size and to recover your natural test quicker, also use nolvadex when you are done with test e
@@frenkie6446 would you lose all your gains for being on the cycle when you come off? Or do you carry on and gain muscle on top of what you already have? Thanks for the reply man, really informative!
This is why it’s hard to appreciate nice physiques these days. These guys who have slightly above average bodies by taking roids make it so you can’t even tell who is and isn’t taking them (unless they’re a huge bodybuilder).
I can look like that without steroids
Me too
Much better as well
If you take steroids, at least make sure you have a proper physique ffs!!
Great logic.
Oh shit you're so uninformed. Just taking steroids isnt enough to get a good physique, you need to stick to your diet and you need to keep lifting. hense why all Olympians are steroid users but not all steroid users are olympians
Jess ica clearly not true, just look at the guys in the video, no great physique even tho they take roids
J C Hope you are joking, if not let me tell you this : you know shit
actually a study was done which showed men who didnt exercise but were on steroids in fact put on more muscle than the men who were not on steroids and did exercise. you have to be incredibly more dedicated as a natural lifter than as a roider.
I only train for 2 reasons:
1) I'm adicted to strenght
2) I like to eat whatever tf I want without beeing obese.
No one would know if they take roids If they don’t tell them.
I just hope that we can build a more natural competitive industry in Ireland! Being a natural competitor there's no way I can match up to standards in physiques these days
I don't blame people going on juice, the price u pay for these shite over priced, waste of money supplements with some juice head on the bottle promising you the world is a scam, least u get ur moneys worth on juice
One of the side effects of them is having your blinds pulled up at angle
I’ve seen thousands of young blokes over the years join the gym, train nearly every day on pointless isolation exercises, fail to look like Arnold in three months then go on the gear. Never even got near to reaching their natural best, never squatted hard, never cleaned and pressed hard, never deadlifted hard, never rested properly...how the hell did they ever expect to grow? Laziness and ignorance.
Yeah, they make up a program up, as they go a long. I know someone who does 30 different weight exercises lol. Mainly like you said, isolation exercises.
I completely agree. Those bro split routines do nothing for 99% of people without steroids. I did that sort of routine for years before getting into powerlifting. Now I'm far stronger in my 40s than I ever was in my 20s.
It's no wonder people don't believe REAL natty lifters who have good genetics and look good. When guys are taking steroids and don't look special. What an absolute waste of money, waste of health, its pathetic if you ask me. But.... That's my opinion
Kiran Chambers you are spot on bro!
Agreed Kiran. These bastards have such low self esteem they have to inject themselves with shit, destroy their bodies and have a mediocre physique at the end of it. Then us naturals get lumped in with these losers.
Yes, the first guy is obviously bulking and he is pretty huge though he screams bro splits and bicep curls as his delts suck. The second guy probably just shoots the worst kind of test into his ass and does cardio, his physique is attainable naturally within 6 months EASILY by just circuit training, protein and noob gains, it's pathetic. If you risk your health and don't even go pro AT LEAST have an above average Joe physique lol.
Kiran Chambers yea, the second guy says he took them because he felt like he didnt belong at the gym. Then he needs a fitness center, like planet fitness, instead of a gym. Planet fitness has a no judge atmosphere policy where he might find more people like himself. Becasue he clearly is taking the roids to justify his own insecurities.
This is a joke the people they are interviewing don’t have a clue , they wouldn’t know what needle was what by gauge , and do not know what they are taking I wonder how many will talk about pct as well , this is a joke and branding bodybuilding and builders the same as these these people really need to train for years and do some learning , ha ha these people need to go back to start
Ha ha ha experience pays a key they haven’t got a clue what there doing , dangerous
Thats the problem. The majority doesn’t know what they are doing and thus its an epidemic
michaelvd3 they need to got to Holland and Barrett ya ha ha
There is a LOT research to be done before anyone starts his first cycle
CMW Chris woodward Are you thick? This is about men in the uk using steroids it's not actually about body builders as such.
Yeah cuz men who chest are so cool Yeah and so big and so hard working but these bodybuilders you admire fucking cheat to get taht look just like these men.
this magazine has spent decades elevating steroid users
working out for 6 years without steroids, people always ask me if I juice
it's sad how not being a natty is such a norm that everyone assumes anyone that is big is on something
yes totally agree
"My argument would be that you can do all these things naturally."
You can. But the implication here is that you can end up having the same physique as someone on roids as a natty.
Imagine being this ill informed.
One of my friends was a so called "small guy who could no put on weight". Yea after a year in the gym he looked way above average and he did not take any of that shit. I always felt that being natural looking , meaning slimmer is way better not to mention healthier. Some of these absurdly big guys get out of breath just by talking to you. Then again a lot of normal guys actually take steroids , they look natural and have a good physic , but they are not abusing anything just using it smartly. And in a lot of cases they use them if their natural testosterone production is a bit lower which happens quite more often than people think.
These are the worst kind of steroid users and bring a bad stigma onto the people that juice for respectable reasons. The first guy looks like all he does at the gym is 45 minutes on the treadmill and the second dude just looks like someone lifting 3-5 times a week for 1-1.5 years. They didn't juice to push their body to new limits after 5+ years of intense discipline in nutrition and training like competitive bodybuilding and strength athletes do. They simply juiced to cheat and get quick results.
Seems like some people in comments expect: using sterodis = insta Ronnie Coleman look. :V
Oprichnik2 yea, thats one of the misconceptions of so many who comment on here screaming STEROIDS! TH-cam search an 80s bbc interviww with Tom Platz. Platz said it best, "steroids don't turn a volkswagon into a ferrari. If just taking steroids made someone a champion, then there would be a helluva lot of champions walking around!"
Totally
Oprichnik2 these barely starting out then want them to look monster overnight
It is odd if u take drugs and just look like an average Joe
Lol @ the 2nd basically killing him self for gains that can be achieved in a month .that had to be the worst physique I’ve ever seen for a steroid user , if ur gonna take steroids at least look like u take steroids wtf 😭😭
Kai Bandõ haha right! fuarkk
That's what it thought lol
Someone once said to me its like being in a casino winning on every hand but you can never check out. You either keep going forever or forfeit all the gains.
What if u keep working out
@@chrisfalx3251 You would still lose a lot of muscle, the testicles and adrenal glands cannot and should not produce so much testosterone, you would likely get a rebound of estrogen and gain fat, lose fat and develope gynecomastia even if you still trained, because esogenous hormones, even in small quantities, are not something the body is intended to take and are more powerful than a lot of other types of molecules
No mentions of Body dysmorphia, eating disorders, mental health, media and societal pressure.
Yeah, Men's health alright.
During uni I had a couple of guys I knew who were just starting training in the gym who were frustrated that they weren’t getting stronger (they were barely training and eating shit) so they immediately and I’m talking like less than a month in were discussing taking steroids. It’s worrying how they seem to be seen as the easy fix, I think a huge amount of that is due to the Hollywood physique that everybody feels they are expected to achieve (and I’m no different here in being affected by the pressure we all feel to look better, not trying to sound above anybody) we all see these physiques and are told how quickly actors (who 100% are using PED’s, dehydration and other cinematic effects to look better in that day of filming) achieved them so people who don’t spend a lot of time at the gym get frustrated with the lack of results and turn to steroids to bulk up quicker rather than following the commitment and time requirements to achieve it naturally.
100% of actors take peds? Do you live with them? Sound like just a hater. Don t blame others if you train like your in vacantion and eat the same. And if you take small doses then is nothing wrong. A lot of old man are on trt and they feel great
@@romanianhustler3309 1) it’s you’re 2) I said “actors who are 100% on PED’s” not “100% of actors are on PED’s” 3) I never mentioned myself in comparison to actors progress it was literally a comment about how it seems Hollywood physiques have warped people’s perspective on how quickly those results can be achieved to new lifters first beginning their training.
“If you take small doses there’s nothing wrong” words spoken by literally no medical professionals, the comparison to TRT is fucking ludicrous. TRT is a specific dose designed for that person off the basis of doctor monitored regular blood tests and you will be on it for life you’re still fucking your natural test production by doing it, it’s not some thing you can do and still be totally fine coming off it in a year. By taking small doses what you’re actually doing is putting a lot of stress on your organs for literally no pay off all that will do is have your body register it as “oh I have x amount of testosterone I don’t need to produce any naturally today” hence why actual cycles need to be significant doses over natural levels of production. So effectively you’re just wasting what could have been an actual cycle on like 6 months of tiny doses, but I bet you didn’t even consider that you do actually have a limit on the amount of cycles you can run before severely damaging your natural hormone production as from the lack of literacy or knowledge displayed I’m guessing you’re about 16 just hit your first 225 bench and think you hit your natty limit lmao go do some research before you fuck your body up my guy
Mens health educating us about steroids 🤦
Mens health useing models that clearly take steroids on front covers displaying unrealistic body types creating unrealistic expectations i would say part of the problem
yeah, totally agree, they don't really care though they're just selling a magazine at the end of the day.
and instagram influencers, too. they are all natty!!!
Sensationalised by the media tbh
I like how they speak English, but still need English subtitles
Hahahaha that skinny fella has got some fake ass gear :-)
^ Typical example of roidrage
Listen pal it takes balls to say words in peoples face that use dont have i take roids but thats nothing to do with the fact that i have balls and would kick ur head in on or off roids so u can sit there with ur 100% skinny ectomerph body and be a keyboard gangester and for that first fella funny caz he dosent have anything to say since i told him im from dublin bunch of pussies.
arian nile you sound like the stereotypical bodybuilder, on gear and no brain whatsoever.
Angerfist1996 +1 haha
Angerfist1996 Okay, liberal
I wanted to use steroids...
But my fear of needles tells otherwise.
Iconic
There are orals sublinguals and transdermal ones
you dodged a bullet my natty friend
Pussy
@@prototype9000 Yeah, but most of those are more toxic and you're gonna end up having to inject test anyway.
Dude was probably a Men's Health worker undercover demonizing steroids . The so called facts that critics speak of is just not there like they claim
and where do they find their juice... cus I cant find any.
Prestige Pharma. They deliver from UK
Bruhh they look like they are on soy protein
@Your Loneliness ikr lmaooo just look at the shape of clarence kennedy
Hahaha!
Bro 😂😂
If one does it to enhance their maximised physique further then its fine but the problem is people do it as a shortcut or trying to use it without putting in maximal effort ie the second dude. You should remain natural for at least 4-5 years of hard training and nutrition before considering anything.
ROKMC Rec. "You should have 4 to 5 years of hard training before considering steroids." That's the issue - most people are too lazy to even stick to a gym routine for a few months, which is why so many people are out of shape. No way are they going to be able to put in 5 years of proper training, and they know it, so they take steroids to get 5 years of results in 6-12 months
"when you are a smaller guy like I was...."
The best part is that he said he took three beatings because of the side effects, I don’t know how one can be that delusional into thinking they’re anywhere near big.
Hes so average size
Lol they increase blood pressure high blood pressure is linked to increased violence. Elevated test levels can as well. Like during mating season in the animal kingdom. The only steroid to actually make me truly I would take on the world was tren.
"especially When You are a smaller guy, which I was" .... Dude cracked me up :D You can achieve that in few months without taking anything.
I’m sooo thankful for videos like these that take me away from t! I considered steroids until I watched videos like these where the drawbacks are mentioned.
Working out for me isn’t a way to be bigger, bulkier, or look a way. It’s for my own health, meaning steroids are out
Steroids for people who aren't man enough to pursue it naturally.
Stay natural 💪👍
That isnt true at all.
I guess the entire fitness industry is full of women, then. Or women who look like men, considering how many female athletes use it too.
@@hautakleightontam771 Steroids for pussys
Muscle Nuts elaborate please
Lol, this is such an insecure thing to say. Steroids are for people who want to use steroids. Being fucking “man enough” to lift some weights and drink a protein shake. Ok Braveheart 😂
Amazed how much bad publicity steroids still get. Concentrate on alcohol, smoking, class a drugs and fast food first before claiming steroids are so bad. Taken carefully they are no worse than any over the counter prescription drug.
What cycle would u recommend that will keep me healthy and big
Dan Graham Don’t take steroids you fucking bum.
Second guy probably bought water in a needle and didn't know it
instead of making a research, you just met some random laymen to hear some anecdotes.
4:32 that guy has no buisness speaking he clearly doesnt.lift
Yup lol
Cant believe this skinny dude is wearing a caffein and kilos shirt smfh
jonathan l Wtf is wrong with you guys. I lift and I'm smaller than that guy..... I'm all natural but I lift weights like you.
Nasty community the weight lifting community is.
JW he is on here talking about steroids though all I said was he looks like he doesn't lift weights so has no real experience to speak of . Sorry for upsetting you snowflake .
JW good man ,estrogen is a bit high there is it son dont cry ..
4:12 "you can achive al these things naturally it just takes longer" hah hard to believe ths guy works for mens health he clearly doesn't know what hes talking about
Not surprising at all that he works for men’s health - anyone who reads men’s health is a moron
I can totally understand someone who competes in something like Strongman or a competitive sport that allows it, but taking it for recreational lifting... that's crazy!
I'd never take it and I work out 4-5 times a week, i'm only 5ft 5inch and it takes me a few sessions on each part of the body to even advance 1KG but i'd still never take steroids.
That’s a serious epidemic. Someone should really solve this by importing real gear.
“Success is a journey, not a destination. The doing is often more important than the outcome.” I feel sorry for these guys that they think they need steroids. Stay Natural guys it’s not worth it.
Dont take staroids, just buy the products advertised in the magazine... xD
I've trained naturally for 21 years, 33 now. Tried steroids once and it wasn't for me, unless you stay on them you lose most of what you gained so in that respect it's just a facade you're forced to keep up. Funny thing is that I've trained so hard for so long that I'm bigger and stronger than most steroid users, I had 7 weeks off training during the first lockdown and lost all of about 2kg bodyweight and 5% max on my lifts because of how well naturally conditioned my body is. Nothing better than benching 200kg and seeing the kids juiced to the gills barely managing 130 and you just know they'll give up for good the minute they come off cycle. Earn true strength and size and it'll put you on top for decades. Add 5kg to your lifts for many, many years and there won't be many juice heads who can outperform you no matter how many drugs they're on.
Nothing better than comparing yourself to dumb young kids for a quick ego boost? damn bro, that's sad af at your age
If you’ve done steroids once you’re not natural lol
Steroids stay in the form of nuclei in your cells forever