The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"! This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that! You are NOT FOOLING us! Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are! Stay natural buddy!
So.... I understand what you're saying that it's a dumb way to think about it. However there ends up being a lot of merit to this in that the injection (assuming he does bilateral shots in each bicep) creates localized pain which allows you to feel the muscle better and have better connection. Also, the localized trauma to the area will cause added blood flow and more nutrients to the area. So he's right.
The thing about steroids is that there's no way to achieve a certain body without the use of steroids, we just don't produce enough testosterone naturally. The problem is many amateur bodybuilders are taking steroids before they even reach near their potential limit. I personally would never take steroids. I don't like the look of huge muscles, and I surely don't want to have trouble that being heavy would bring.
When start learning more about this stuff you'll find out everyone's juiceing, even all your favorite, "Natty" pro athletes. "But he's tested!!!" go off a month or so before the competition and no problem.
Why is it okay for someone to staple a rubber penis to their leg and parade around as a man and take steroids but someone who just wants to work hard and put on a bit more muscle than usual and take steroids is looked down on?
Bc of all the crazy misinformation out there with regards to how bad steroids are for you. Which, if that were true.. We would have an absolute epidemic of dead meat heads and fitness girls. It's very very simple to use steroids in a way where youre safe guarded from long term issues as best as we know how
I really do believe this is the "male" equivalent to anorexia. In both cases, those affected completely ignore the unhealthy effects and lose their touch reality. Women with anorexia are never skinny enough and these men are never big enough, although everyone else can clearly see that they have gone beyond limits.
Agreed, I think these men fall for pressure and have personal problems, they should be helped just like alcoholics or anorexics, sending these people underground does no good to anyone.
I think the problem is that most people do not consider this to be harmful (unless steriods are involved) All they see is young men working out, which is generally a good thing in a world where the obesity rate is rising. However, I honestly do not believe that their way of working out is healthy. They ruin their entire body.
Josie Pinozzi given that males actually get anorexia, synth abuse can't be a "male equivalent" and why isn't there any concern for women who abuse steeoids? Stop trying to feel special. ATHLETES abuse steroids of both sexes and they need to stop it by testing more frequently!
I'm very well aware of the fact that men can be anorexic and women can abuse sterioids. However, while women feel the pressure by society to be skinny, men feel the pressure to be big. So therefore it is more common for women to become anorexic and men to be addicted to working out. There also other reasons why people become anorexic, which also count for men. However, I also believe the steriods arent the only problem, although they are the aspect that causes the most health issues. To me the obsessive thinking is just as bad because it causes mental stress. It is the main reason you are stuck in this disorder in the first place. There are also people who obesessively over excercise without using sterioids. It might not be as bad for the body, but it is still a disorder, which negatively impacts your life. That being said, I'm just as concerned about women abusing steroids but I believe this problem is more common for men to have. And why would I feel special? All I did was post an opinion about a problem, which is debated by experts but not widely considered by the public as such. I just wanted to say that anorexia is not the only unhealthy beauty obsession.
I must live in a different world because the majority of guys i know dont do gear for appearance. But performance. We have a tendency to make fun of guys who are all show but no go. Caring more about appearance over performance is a female trait aka beta males
its really not that hard to get a six pack, it just takes a while depending on where you started, if you have the patience to stick to the diet you'll get it.
Also if u look at all those guys with washboard abs in photos, part of its photoshop and they put them on a water diet (they completely dehidrate them like 12 hours before the show so that when they get there they looked ripped but they're suffering hard)
this was a good video real effort was put into this instead of the usual biased stuff we get from journalism, you should probably disable comments tho, ironically the very mindset you warn about is fuelling these comments below, with tons of insecure people saying, he looks terrible, he is a fake natural. pretty pathetic really :/
If a woman wants to become male, she will take synthetic testosterone. Her right to use testosterone will never be questioned. If a guy wants to become a women, they will cut off his balls, ending his natural testosterone production, and inject him with artificial estrogen. He will be considered heroic, beautiful and a role model for boys and girls everywhere. But if a guy wants testosterone to be a better athlete, and a better built man, he is considered a jerk and loser.
proteinman1981 Cheating who? Only if you pretend to be natural when you're not; e.g. see the last person in the video. Nobody will be able to look like him drug-free even if they trained for 80 years straight.
Daza Forsworn you say that but I doubt they put any effort in to get that physique, half theses guys have about 1 brain cell. They look natty they most likley aren't
Too many guys take steroids that just don't need to, and won't train at the level to even take advantage of the injections. Theyre too dangerous, and too damn expensive to help you get a six-pack, which they don't get you unless your training, and more importantly, nutrition is 100% on point
These steroid users are dying, not because of the steroids IMO, but because of the weight. It's still too much weight to possess that makes it unhealthy. If you weight over 250lbs, in most cases there's going to be problems. These guys are too heavy. You don't normally see smaller body builders dying as frequently as the big dudes.
Lol it's always amusing to me seeing guys who can't believe someone is natural just because they couldn't get buff without roids. Dude, everyone has different genetics, and genetics are HUGE. I've been accused of roid use since I was 15 and I've never touched the stuff. I've always been a super-responder with building muscle.
So you wait till doctor say come off but you say you're health more important so why do it in the first place to wait to hear doctor say you should know that your health way more important than looking ok
Chef, friend of a friend. It's recently become illegal where I am, so I can't say anything. I can guarantee that you know someone that can get hold of some, though.
the drugs weren't blanmed for their deaths, but they should have been. these guys took insane amounts and should be no surprise that this lead to their deaths
So irritating that they bring up Rich and Dallas. Rich was coked out of his mind and doing hard drugs, he collapsed from overdosing. Sure his health was fucked from overdosing on steroids, but that's not why he died. And Dallas? Competing in the Olympia at that age? His bloodwork was off the charts, he was taking in 15-20g of test a week, meanwhile your typical fake natty does 500mg. Didn't he die choking on food? Both circumstances their wives/gfs couldn't help because they were too heavy. Steroids will forever be villainized meanwhile we eat and smoke ourselves into the top 3 causes of death. Proper steroid use only encourages people to take care of themselves. Go have your double cheeseburger and pack of cigarettes, I'll be at the gym.
Most people nowadays who take steroids look rubbish. They don't even have a solid foundation before taking steroids. If you want to take steroids, you need to be training for at least 15 years with proper nutrition before even thinking about going on the gear.
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The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"!
This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that!
You are NOT FOOLING us!
Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are!
Stay natural buddy!
Yeah totally, if you mean by crying like a girl at the drop of a hat 😂
Fake natty doctor at the end love it.
Joe Bloggs wtf is natty...can't understand your lingo mate..
gearhead natty is short for natural
ye lol. Probably lied because he has a Gym Shark sponsorship..
Big HgH hands on him
Gotta lie because of Gym Shark sponsorship
Last guy clear fake natty
a Ski true
Yepp
Not only that, he has a disproportionately tiny neck a la Scooby.
a Ski and I suppose you're some kind of hero for stating this? What are you hoping to accomplish here?
kekster bojester exactly what the video is addressing..
"I want to inject in my biceps because I'm doing biceps today."
Wut
Was looking this comment 😆
And I'm pretty sure that's the only muscle group most guys only do
@@juggalogamer8541half the dudes in my gym have rounded shoulders because all they hit is chest and arms….they look funny
So.... I understand what you're saying that it's a dumb way to think about it.
However there ends up being a lot of merit to this in that the injection (assuming he does bilateral shots in each bicep) creates localized pain which allows you to feel the muscle better and have better connection.
Also, the localized trauma to the area will cause added blood flow and more nutrients to the area.
So he's right.
Rob Lipsett got more screen time here than on the actual show
So true
I like how the video is about stigma about steroid use and the doctor at the end lies about being natural 😂
Solid physique bro 👍
Lol true
Defo on gear
He would be up in front of the GMC to explain himself.
Doctor definitely on steroids...
That guy at the end of the video isn't natural haha, he's blasting all kinds of gear
Harry Tester Aaaaallll kindzzzzz
Sure looks juicy. I bet if he takes the hat off he's balding pretty bad.
Last guy the doctor, natural me backside, he has access to pharmaceutical steroids, sure why not
Why not? Because of the negative health effects maybe?
Akalion health affects are very minimum
Amil the A and E doctor at the end claims natty LMAO. Arms the width of a childs head.
Lol. Yeah that doctor is a complete conman
Putting him on the end made the whole thing lose its credibility.
Lewis Fleming he's probably stealing medical grade from the hospital hahaha
He looks huge... Beside a 6foot tall 140lb journalist.
There are high school kids who have lifted for 2 or 3 years naturally who are bigger than him.
Rich piana was on everything under the sun, not just steroids
The thing about steroids is that there's no way to achieve a certain body without the use of steroids, we just don't produce enough testosterone naturally. The problem is many amateur bodybuilders are taking steroids before they even reach near their potential limit. I personally would never take steroids. I don't like the look of huge muscles, and I surely don't want to have trouble that being heavy would bring.
The problems have nothing with being heavy...
The physique of an Olympic swimmer is far greater, healthier and more functional than a 300 lbs steroid infused bodybuilder.
@@athletemusician8098ridiculous statement. You’re assuming there’s a single metric for healthier and there isn’t.
@@athletemusician8098absolutely. Being 300lbs muscle is just as unhealthy for the heart as being 300lbs 30% bf.
They are not natural as well brother @@athletemusician8098
"The protein shakes aren't cutting it"? Of course they are not going to do something that food doesn't already do.
Lol, course my man at the end is natty :)))
Rich piano is the number 1 Natty. Remove this slander.
Rich piana is dead but he was a great man.
Not really
Disgusting to see these weasels using Rich's videos to push their biased 'journalism'.
Excuse me?
i actully think he was because he was honest
What's your problem with this journalism rez hahaha, seemed fairly nonjudgmental and allowed different lifters to talk
Someone do a stock check at that doctors pharmacy! I think there may have been a miscount for growth hormone and insulin!
Rob Lipsett is not on steroids. Dude looks natural as heck.
"My mum is a nurse".
Marcus Zingmark "Me mum!"
When start learning more about this stuff you'll find out everyone's juiceing, even all your favorite, "Natty" pro athletes. "But he's tested!!!" go off a month or so before the competition and no problem.
Bahahhah😂 That redhead dude has 100% fugazi steroids from China!!
Having a six pack made me happy, I'd smile every time I looked in the mirror
just me or did these guys sit uncomfortably close to one another during the interviewing haha
Jack Haidary very lol I thought they were a couple at first
Thats the weirdest thing I have heard. But funny.
Why is it okay for someone to staple a rubber penis to their leg and parade around as a man and take steroids but someone who just wants to work hard and put on a bit more muscle than usual and take steroids is looked down on?
Bc of all the crazy misinformation out there with regards to how bad steroids are for you. Which, if that were true.. We would have an absolute epidemic of dead meat heads and fitness girls.
It's very very simple to use steroids in a way where youre safe guarded from long term issues as best as we know how
I really do believe this is the "male" equivalent to anorexia. In both cases, those affected completely ignore the unhealthy effects and lose their touch reality. Women with anorexia are never skinny enough and these men are never big enough, although everyone else can clearly see that they have gone beyond limits.
Agreed, I think these men fall for pressure and have personal problems, they should be helped just like alcoholics or anorexics, sending these people underground does no good to anyone.
I think the problem is that most people do not consider this to be harmful (unless steriods are involved) All they see is young men working out, which is generally a good thing in a world where the obesity rate is rising. However, I honestly do not believe that their way of working out is healthy. They ruin their entire body.
Josie Pinozzi given that males actually get anorexia, synth abuse can't be a "male equivalent" and why isn't there any concern for women who abuse steeoids? Stop trying to feel special. ATHLETES abuse steroids of both sexes and they need to stop it by testing more frequently!
I'm very well aware of the fact that men can be anorexic and women can abuse sterioids. However, while women feel the pressure by society to be skinny, men feel the pressure to be big. So therefore it is more common for women to become anorexic and men to be addicted to working out. There also other reasons why people become anorexic, which also count for men. However, I also believe the steriods arent the only problem, although they are the aspect that causes the most health issues. To me the obsessive thinking is just as bad because it causes mental stress. It is the main reason you are stuck in this disorder in the first place. There are also people who obesessively over excercise without using sterioids. It might not be as bad for the body, but it is still a disorder, which negatively impacts your life.
That being said, I'm just as concerned about women abusing steroids but I believe this problem is more common for men to have.
And why would I feel special? All I did was post an opinion about a problem, which is debated by experts but not widely considered by the public as such. I just wanted to say that anorexia is not the only unhealthy beauty obsession.
I must live in a different world because the majority of guys i know dont do gear for appearance. But performance. We have a tendency to make fun of guys who are all show but no go. Caring more about appearance over performance is a female trait aka beta males
The university guy is wrong, sounds daft to say but steroids are not illegal to own or use in the UK!
If your selling your body on TH-cam and you’re not on steroids then you’re not making the most of your business
its really not that hard to get a six pack, it just takes a while depending on where you started, if you have the patience to stick to the diet you'll get it.
Six pac for kidz , the hardest muscles to grow is legs and back
growing up is realising that ur back and chest are where the real gains are 🤣
Most Guardian readers would rather be lifting soy lattes..
Also if u look at all those guys with washboard abs in photos, part of its photoshop and they put them on a water diet (they completely dehidrate them like 12 hours before the show so that when they get there they looked ripped but they're suffering hard)
Good video. Wish it was longer and more depth was put into this. Dave and Thomas could of really gave you a much better insight
Using anabolics should have nothing to do with the law.
Doctor at the end BANG ON IT ❗️❗️❗️
Great documentary, but a six pack can totally be achieved without drugs. The big majority of people just need a calorie deficit
this was a good video real effort was put into this instead of the usual biased stuff we get from journalism, you should probably disable comments tho, ironically the very mindset you warn about is fuelling these comments below, with tons of insecure people saying, he looks terrible, he is a fake natural. pretty pathetic really :/
Waiting for the mandatory comment about how this is about patriarchy and feminism will solve the problem.
RIP Piano
In regards to the last guy, I love when non users try to weigh in on how steroids work. Lol you
Just be confident in your own body folks.
Tf rich is most natural vengan body builder in the universe.
Natural vengan
If a woman wants to become male, she will take synthetic testosterone. Her right to use testosterone will never be questioned. If a guy wants to become a women, they will cut off his balls, ending his natural testosterone production, and inject him with artificial estrogen. He will be considered heroic, beautiful and a role model for boys and girls everywhere. But if a guy wants testosterone to be a better athlete, and a better built man, he is considered a jerk and loser.
SHAKE TIME GODDAMINT
The average person's understanding of PEDs reminds me of the 1937 movie "Refer Madness".
Couldn't agree more!
I dont understand why people want to overweight.
It's just a personal choice like consuming anything else. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's cheating, want to get big and strong, start at 5 years of heavy training - earn it like a man
proteinman1981 Cheating who? Only if you pretend to be natural when you're not; e.g. see the last person in the video. Nobody will be able to look like him drug-free even if they trained for 80 years straight.
Illegal use of a controlled substance.
Fart Unjust, victimless laws are to be ignored.
If you are not competing, steroids are unnecessary. You don't need fast results.
never watched Love Island but from what i see at the start of the video the guys look pretty natty to me
Daza Forsworn you say that but I doubt they put any effort in to get that physique, half theses guys have about 1 brain cell. They look natty they most likley aren't
Pretty sure Rob Lipsett is natty and he was in that love island intro, check out his youtube channel
You give these people too much credit
Everyone in crossfit is on juice, but you wouldn't be able to tell by watching them lift
Daza Forsworn everyone's on steroids
Not hating but i am gonna guess they never built a natty foundation and that is why
RIP Rich
Tom Moore, take those spices off your vent hood, the heat will degrade the flavor.
the ginger guy takes steroids 😂 u can't bloody tell
shah nutrition training non existent arms lol
Thomas Maw is his name, he recently competed. Have a look at his physique now
LOL. His got a decent amount of mass now.. I saw one of his videos recently.
Takes a long time to get nearly as big as rich piana, dallas mccarver etc. 10 years plus.
shah nutrition training most guys who use u wouldn’t know. You need the genetics, nutrition and training to really get the benefits.
Am I the only who found odd sanding a skinny guy to interview this guy's?
There ain't any safe way mate if u choose that round .. its like two sides of a coin like light and darkens
Huh? There's plenty of safe ways it's actually very very basic and simple
I am so afraid of needles, i could never do steroids.
the last guy is clealry a fake natty
Roiding for that physique? Have you tried actually lifting?
Too many guys take steroids that just don't need to, and won't train at the level to even take advantage of the injections. Theyre too dangerous, and too damn expensive to help you get a six-pack, which they don't get you unless your training, and more importantly, nutrition is 100% on point
0:12 NO Legs!!
These steroid users are dying, not because of the steroids IMO, but because of the weight. It's still too much weight to possess that makes it unhealthy. If you weight over 250lbs, in most cases there's going to be problems. These guys are too heavy. You don't normally see smaller body builders dying as frequently as the big dudes.
Absolutely!
"doing it the safe way"
Oh boi 🤦♂️🤦♂️
You know a baby lifter isn't a real lifter when he's wants a ripped six-pack for the girls and not traps up to his ears for the bro's.
This dude kinda sounds like Hagrid lol
the last guy is bullshitting us when he says he's natural
Lol it's always amusing to me seeing guys who can't believe someone is natural just because they couldn't get buff without roids. Dude, everyone has different genetics, and genetics are HUGE. I've been accused of roid use since I was 15 and I've never touched the stuff. I've always been a super-responder with building muscle.
Safe and correct use have great benefits to be an elite athlete/bodybuilder u do have to go the extra mile.its a choice in the end but research is key
me looking at that "natty" guy at the end made me natty ^^
This should never be illegal to begin with
Both those bodybuilders died because they were extremely huge an unhealthy too many drugs too much plastic surgery let's be honest
So you wait till doctor say come off but you say you're health more important so why do it in the first place to wait to hear doctor say you should know that your health way more important than looking ok
Not taking any, but understand when people take them.
Steroid users is consequences in the end
So what's everyone here blasting/cycling atm? 300 Test and 400 tren a for me
Chris 300 test e cruise, 300 equi blast. Equi site feels like I've been kicked.😀
SuperDipMonster where do u source your roids?
Chef, friend of a friend. It's recently become illegal where I am, so I can't say anything. I can guarantee that you know someone that can get hold of some, though.
20000 test 15000 tren
SuperDipMonster good to know. Im honestly thinking of starting a test 400 e cycle
the drugs weren't blanmed for their deaths, but they should have been. these guys took insane amounts and should be no surprise that this lead to their deaths
right babe?
thing is I was 26st March 3017 just over a year and I can tye my own shoe lenses and I'm 19st of happiness .... saved my life blast and cruise
Anyone whos taken gear cant possibly say their harmless
Remember guys, tren harder, but play faster
What is the name of that trippy music at the end?
Smh, took down the King Lord Mr.Delts video…….what gives mannnn🤬
Hey w.e helps you, but at the end of the day once you stop using all those unnatural gains are gone.
Well.. No. That's not how it works. But once you start, you simply stay on trt indefinitely. Problem solved
could somebody jack up the background music so we can not understand anything?
And not one rep was done
So irritating that they bring up Rich and Dallas. Rich was coked out of his mind and doing hard drugs, he collapsed from overdosing. Sure his health was fucked from overdosing on steroids, but that's not why he died. And Dallas? Competing in the Olympia at that age? His bloodwork was off the charts, he was taking in 15-20g of test a week, meanwhile your typical fake natty does 500mg. Didn't he die choking on food? Both circumstances their wives/gfs couldn't help because they were too heavy. Steroids will forever be villainized meanwhile we eat and smoke ourselves into the top 3 causes of death. Proper steroid use only encourages people to take care of themselves. Go have your double cheeseburger and pack of cigarettes, I'll be at the gym.
Why does the interviewer sit so close to everyone??
big on the outside weak n small on the inside just work out n eat right
Dr. On steroids.
you can't give booze to a baby!
They are not illegal
It’s shot day today 💪
That ginger fella needs to get his money back. Those steroid bottles are filled with water mate 😂
Rip rich, 5% baby
Bro that doctor is on steroids!
RIP Rich Piana.
Lousy journalism with 0 depth
4:05 Did I just see him inject his knee with about 3 ccs? WTH
No sir... That's his gastrocnemius (upper calf)
being on steroids really doesnt make you look any better.
As if anyone think the love island cast are aesthetic they're nearly all +18%
I bought for myself for years from Bulgarian pharmacy. Some stuff like Tren I buy from UGL
Next working day delivery for all Uk
Ironic that they got his puny boy to interview these big men.
Most people nowadays who take steroids look rubbish. They don't even have a solid foundation before taking steroids. If you want to take steroids, you need to be training for at least 15 years with proper nutrition before even thinking about going on the gear.
Lol if this were true everyone at the Mr Olympia would be 45 years old as rookies
Reporting done right. Unbiased and factual, left for the viewers to make up their own mind.
Good watch 👌
Haha last guy isn't natural, fake natty!
loveIsland is skip legday island