London’s NEW Electric Double Decker Bus - Route 36 [Optare Metrodecker EV]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2018
- Today was the second day in service for Go Ahead London’s Optare Metrodecker Electric Vehicle (EV) on TFL London Bus Route 36 to New Cross. The motor noise of this demonstrator vehicle was amazing as demonstrated by this journey. This bus was converted to electric power by MacTec, similar to Vantage Power, who convert diesel buses into a hybrid.
Operated by Go Ahead from New Cross Bus Garage. It spent its early life with First, I wonder when Optare will get any orders for this bus?
Filmed in Paddington and Queen’s Park.
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The interior looks excellent and that is the most beautiful electric sound in the metrodecker, nice vid!
It sounds a bit like a central line train when it gets up to a certain speed. ☺
probably
SAAAAMMMEEEEE
Ya when its slowing down
Becuase it’s also electric
I love the sound and the interior
I absolutely love these Metrodeckers. Nicest looking double decker bus at the moment in my opinion.
Nice video too! :)
Thanks, For the diesel one, my ordering would be Gemini 3, ADL E400MMC, City then metrodecker. For the DD electric one, this looks better than the other electric double decker bus
These look absolutely beautifull
yh
Awesome motor sounds I do like these buses this is an absolute BEAST With its extremely powerful engine, Electric buses (and cars) Usually aren't too powerful.
+TheTrotter TrainSpotter this bonus Durant have an engine...actually electric buses have instant torque which means rapid acceleration
They should make more diesel and electric models of this bus and maybe even a hybrid version too.☺
No they shouldn't! Diesel has had its time.
I like this bus cant lie
for an electric one yes
What do you think of the Electric Metrodecker, let me know in the comments. This bus sounds amazing and is much better than the Evoseti!! Also this bus has NO IBus screen but does havev the announcements.
Not interesting, I like the BYDs on 360 a lot more than this!
Yes, but this is an electric double decker, not a single decker, more weight etc...cant be really compared to single decks
It is made by Optare and I love Optares
Got some Electric double deckers coming to New Zealand this year.....will have see what they are like!
I love these buses, great engine, nice interior and exterior but just one problem that where the rear blind is it looks strange.
My goodness, it sounds like a Soviet trolleybus from the 70s. Silence is one of the most appealing aspects of EVs yet this one sounds as loud inside as its ICE brethren.
Great video also.
Thanks
Did not know this had already entered service!!
was in service yesterday
Cool video
Thanks
Woah Another Beast!!!!!!!!
yeh
Wow... Didn't know that over time the motors got deeper... In 2023 these motors are deep as hell.
I hope these buses will share with Scania Omni City and the NB4L on the 281 & 267!
Great Video, when its acclerating its sounds like a BYD and a mix of enviro 400 mmc if you can tell by the sound.
thanks and yes
Just wondering, anyone know where the batteries are placed? As other electric buses usually hav batteries located at the rear of the lower deck, but this one still hav a rear window.
Now this is better than those crappy imported byd buses, sounds pretty good for an electric bus.
Will they make more of both the electric and diesel models of this bus? ☺
doubt it
Yesterday I saw a SP on the 258 at around 7:30 in the morning.
SiEnderPlayz 2 SPs have been on the 258 this week
Nice video! I like the sounds this makes, though I'm still not too keen on the styling of the MetroDecker, particularly the upper front (I prefer it to the BYDs however). Also the seats over the wheel arches don't look like they'd be very comfortable.
I do wonder whether the MetroDecker will ever get any significant orders. Optare's previous attempt at a double decker, the Rapta, never went into production and before that (over 8 years ago now) there were plans for an integral version of the Olympus after they took over that design. It would be a shame if this turned out to be a failure, especially as Optare's other products also seem to be struggling a bit lately (the MetroCity didn't catch on in London though about 100 provincial buses have been delivered so far, mainly to smaller operators, and the Solo and Versa aren't selling quite as well as they once were).
Thank you, although I prefer it to the Evoseti. I think they can can get orders if they get it right, the evoseti only gets orders as it is cheap, doesnt look good and it gets orders because of the Volvo engine. If they dont plan, it will be a failure.Tbh, I dont know anything about the Olympus but I have heard of the Solo and Versa (isnt the versa similiar to the Metrocity?)
And also, the interior styling is fine, the exterior needs work, I couldnt even find a good angle to produce a good photograph
I think the issue with the MetroDecker so far has been the lack of a hybrid variant during the period when virtually all orders for double decks from London have been for hybrids. It's too late for the diesel and possibly too soon for the electrics to be built in significant numbers - though assuming more and more routes are eventually converted to electric operation it could work out well if they can get market share from the start.
Unfortunately in my opinion, the styling doesn't matter in terms of winning orders in London. Obviously due to the tendering system operators will always go for whatever works out cheapest for them overall (subject to delivery times, etc) unlike commercial routes where better buses can bring in more revenue. This comment is getting too long as it is so I'll leave that there.
The MetroCity is basically a Versa with a flatter front,and therefore shorter overhang, and a few other changes such as flat side windows (on Versas they are curved slightly, this tends to be more noticeable from inside). The Versa itself is based on the Solo, with the front axle behind the entrance door and redesigned bodywork but structurally they are very similar.
I actually didnt know they didnt have a hybrid version. Yes its probably too late for diesel but they could be placed well for the electric market. The current BYD and the SRM electric does take up too much interior space. The Metrodecker EV doesnt. Oh I thought the Versa and MetroCity were the same! They should have saved some money rather than pumping money into a bus which wont sell.
Great Vid mate. Go Ahead London Oder first OEs for 200
yes, and thx
This is an absolute beast! Sounds fantastic!!! The seats are high back as well, but does the iBus board work, it doesn't seem like it. Again another brilliant video, that motor sounds like the best even better than the Streetair!!!
Thanks. Also this bus has NO IBus screen but does havev the announcements. The electric powertrain is really nice too
Only the seats in behind the doors are high back. The seats on the upper deck are not.
and the ones opposite to the exit doors
This is a lovely bus, with or without iBus, but the back doors sound really weird, this is just the best!
Only if London Buses had high back seats!
They are back
How many seats does it have?
Do you think that London Sovereign will ever run SLE's on the 258?
doubt it, they have plenty of spare ADEs
Oh ok. Thanks For Telling Me!
I've been on the diesel version on the 486 2 years ago. ☺ The diesel version sounds better than the electric ones.☺
Joshua Hall a.k.a. Controlla I can't compare tbh. I've been on some electric buses so far and this ride was up there with the SEes and EB3
Joshua Hall a.k.a. Controlla and
Sound isn't important
Joshua Hall a.k.a. Controlla
That's the sound of the future
Great video, they look nice with the leaves and the interior is cool but the rear looks weird and the number is placed strangely on the back.
thanks and yes
Is there a metrodecker for metroline?
Yes, GO Aheads OM1 is at Perivale operating on Route 611
Well Optares, it doesn't belong to Go Ahead.
139 has metrodecker
As I am not comfortable asking the depot why they stopped running the London Suburban Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW on routes 30, 121, 230, 271, 349, N279 And 158 why can’t we make the same make of the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Buses but Modernise the insides of these Buses. Also, make it low floor up and down and extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space for the wheelchair users. By the way, if you could remake and Modernise these vehicles could they also make them into a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version if it is possible to Modernise the insides of these Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space and even a London Suburban 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMCs and 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC’s and also extend the middle the body part of these vehicles a little bit more. Why couldn’t we have those London Suburban Buse's Pale red on the top roof Pale red again on the top middle Milk Chocolate brown in the middle Creamy white on the Bottom Middle and Milk Chocolate Brown on the Bottom on most of those kinds of those Particular Double Decker Vehicles? Could you put the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox in the Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMCs and also put the Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox in the Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more and also turn most of them to London Suburban Buses. By the way, could you also make routes 349, 121, N279 and 271 into London Suburban Buses and have a mixture of a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Versions. Could they also transfer the Arriva Bus Depots from Hackney to Stagecoach company so they can replace all the Arriva buses so that all of them can go to Birmingham and Leeds? They can be replaced by Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles and that includes A Mixture of a Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Engine Northern Counties Palatine One and that Includes a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC’s and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles A Little Bit More? Can Arriva London Bus Company Replace Most of their Wight Buses so they can also transfer them to Birmingham and Also Manchester so they can be replaced by Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles A Little Bit More Thank You Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Much? Oh by the way could the bus Factory Companies also Make More of Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles And that also includes Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC And also Extend the The middle Body part of those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and that also includes The Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus A Little Bit More And Paint Those 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and that also includes The Northern Counties Palatine One with a Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Diesel engines with a Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearboxes and The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles to the Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 125, 173, 313 and 103. If all of the 14 Leyland Titan B15s are Fully Red and even Mostly Red, could they also Repaint All of Those 14 Leyland Titan B15s into Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on Bus Route 313 so they can Reuse them for Only Every Seven and a Half Months and also Reuse them on those Rail Replacement London Bus Routes if that will Be Alright for Only Just Every Seven and a Half Months, starting from the beginning of October and also Reuse Those Buses Only on the London Bus Routes which are The 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41, 56, and N26 so Please make sure that the builders can do as they are told!!!! And please do something about these Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Important Professional Ideas Pretty Please? Prime Minister and also includes the Mayor of London.
How comes? They got withdrawn so quickly even though I'm watching this in 2020.
Great Vid I didn't think you would film this haha.. I just I want to clarify that 140 and the new school route hasn't officially been awarded to London soverign yet, the governer got his facts wrong the he ment that they're aiming to get it because they're both up for tender. In other news however london sov have bought a patch in hatch end with new houses surrounding it and lastly, Sullivan have been awarded 8 single decker abellio enviro 200 idk why.
The 140 was awarded to Metroline last year with new Volvo B5LH Gemini 3's. Once the new X140 is introduced, it will most likely retain current vehicles.
I've noticed, still don't believe it though but now they have been saying there is "something going on with harrow weald garage". Which I don't believe either.
What Zit Tooya I've been speaking with a few drivers from Harrow. I've been told that London Sovereign are attempting to take Harrow Weald from metroline as both Edgware and Harrow garages will be overfilled by the time the new contracts start. If this happens, there is a high chance that Sovereign will give the whole of Edgware to Metroline. I'm going to try and have it confirmed but it seems likely.
Can we not talk about these rumours please, some were turning out to be fake
Busesinlondon That's what you thought about Watford closing but it happened :/. Are you going to film 299 327 389 and 399 on frv
Did this bus use to be diesel? ☺
no
Show us upstairs. I wanted to see how many rows the battery takes up
Umar Shareef you can see the upstairs from the exterior view
I Wonder if Go Ahead London will put these buses on any east London routes such as 115, 135, etc.
doubt it
BusesInLondon ok.
Not for at least another 7 years could take 14 but at least before 2037
Some Are In River Road Garage (RR) So Probably
You should do the route 44 and 77 they are getting new buses soon as well and the 87
I dont do all the service changes, I mostly do stuff in NW London. Well Ill see if I have time or not
This is the only electric double-deck vehicle along with BYD1471-1475 in London.
if we exclude the virtual electric ones on the 69
Not anymore
Some nice buses I’ve never seen this model of a double decker before
I prefer these electric buses, I wish new electric buses sound like this, in 2020 all electric buses should sound like this because most ones on 43,134,153,214 are quieter
ADL ones are superior atm
Thought these were only for Bexleyheath garage for 89.
thats the diesel one which has now moved to Metroline
Its usually on the 611, Metroline Perivale West. It runs without IBUS
What Happened To This Now?
I thought there were introduced in 2015? btw nice vid
this is an electric double decker bus, not a diesel or a hybrid
BusesInLondon ok
Well this is quite a surprise and seems good as far as design and seating capacity is concerned. My concern is I can't see the batteries and don't know the range, how does that compare with a BYD which needs a lot of battery space. Mileage of electric buses in London should be quite good due to regenerative braking but can the Optare go all day on the longer all day routes. As this is a Mickey Mouse made in the back shed at home product I can't see any serious bus company making orders. Good effort but where are those bloody batteries?
Graham Johnson 31 of these have been ordered by tfl and metroline. They have a range of around 180miles I think. These Metrodeckers are making good progress into the market
My question too, where are the batteries? I don't see big black case at the back as BYDs have and they can't be on the roof either...
Just had a quick google and there is no battery storage information but it's range is between 105 and 145 miles which is not good for a lot of routes.
@@BusesInLondon x
The back window is weird. It looks like a submarine port.
lol
I find optare busses weak in material and engine power for some reason
I like it. I think it looks better than the BYD double decker
true
It sounds like a Heathrow Pod
Hi There again my name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why couldn't you Rebuild a nice fresh shiny Scania N113, Gardner 6LXCT, Gardner 6LXC and Volvo TD102KF 3 speed Voith DIWA Northern Counties Palatine 1’s and Repaint them to a Grey Green Colour's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 125, 141, 210, 173, 179, 167, 313 and also the bus route 103, if you guys would like to Rebuild about 138 of Those Scania N113, Gardner 6LXCT, Gardner 6LXC and Volvo TD102KF 3 speed Voith DIWA Northern Counties Palatine 1 Buses please could you Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Colour’s and put them on those London Bus Routes witch are the 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41, 56 and N26 for all of us because it would be a Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Colour's and I'am a Big Fan of all of those Scania N113, Gardner 6LXCT, Gardner 6LXC and Volvo TD102KF 3 speed Voith DIWA Northern Counties Palatine 1 Buses Please?
I like this bus but . I know it's electric bus but doesn't anyone think that that noise of the bus is annoying a bit ? Overall it's not too bad
RajhanPlayz It sounds a bit like a modern train. It can be toned down a bit but I think we are just not use to the sound. Imagine hearing a diesel bus engine for the first time, would you find it annoying.
Pete S. To be fair where I live there's less electric buses . I'm just used to diesels . I just don't like the electric noise in my opinion .
RajhanPlayz_67
That's the sound of the future
There Is A Motorbike Behind Him.
The Bus Needs To Look Out Because Motorbike Are Quiet
Why can't electric buses use normal 4-5-6 automatic gearbox?
You need to understand how an electric powertrain works
The Juggernaut
Because it has all the torque that gearbox are unnecessary.
The gears on Internal Combustion Engine serves as filler for its incapacity to provide power at all speed
ex first west Yorkshire on trial
I like the interior but the front looks ugly in my opinion
yeah, couldnt get a decent angle for the photo
Y debe correr mucho
The outside design of the bus is ugly inside is nice tho
agreed
Personally I would say it’s the other way around. The new MCV’s and Evosetti are vile compared to this.
@@BusesInLondon it sound like a demon Saying DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEÈEEEE!
100 times *WAYY* better than a EvoSlutti
yeah
Like the new moquette, to be honest.
WorldTraveller268 probably it's a generic one
Far too noisy but look good
I thought it December 2017 11 months are December 2017
Yes but it is not 12 months from when the video was uploaded.
Hey
it dosent suit the 36 like the enviros
hmm...
Outside at the back of the bus looks ugly if you ask me
its the same as the original metrodecker
It looks awful, with the massive vent at the top and the blind number further down at the side, it looks ridiculous imo, like metroline‘s SELs.
WHAT THE HELL
I absolutely despise Electric Buses but for an electric pile of crap it’s actually not that bad
1) they have a different interior 2) the sound of the engine makes my ears bleed its like a police siren 3) the front and back look terrifyin especailly the back 4) its horrible so far im hating it.
Imtiaz
Try riding it personally maybe the sound is different in reality
I don’t like them
Because they always catch fire 🔥
Absolute brick.
No styling at all.
Fit for a Green house.
Electric Buses are Bullshit because of the batteries.... why dont we just go back to trolley buses?
I really dont get electric buses, they still burn fossil fuels or natural gas and the only advantage is that the emissions are given off elsewhere
BusesInLondon pollution in London is bad so it's better to burn the fuels elsewhere
thats something that they do in china & as it turns out, all the pollution is pushed by the wind into other towns in the area killing all the locals
wclifton968 yeah basically the pollution goes elsewhere ...but it is a step in the right direction to prevent people on Oxford Street for example dying from polution
wclifton968
Why don't you use gasoline powering your phone or any gadgets in your home. Gasoline is Bullshit.
Everything in your home is powered by electricity. The only deterrence to using electric motor for vehicles is battery technology but as of the moment our batteries are getting better and cheaper that it's inevitable, diesel and gasoline must go like how kerosene did go after Tesla Invented the AC that is powering your home.
EWWWWWWW
its better than the Double deck BYD
more space on the lower deck.
in comparison to other electric buses
BusesInLondon welll
I saw this at Peckham and my brother got sooo happy he wanted a ride immediately
nice