Flying to Bahamas in a Cessna 172 - 1 Engine vs. 66.6816nm of Water
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2017
- Season 3, Episode 5
Ever want to just fly away from all your troubles to a tropical paradise? Well, you can with little more than a Cessna 172! Many people don't want to attempt the journey with fewer than two engines, but honestly, I would take on the warm waters of the Bahamas any day rather than the 100ft pine trees and dense woods of Massachusetts.
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I did this same trip with a buddy of mine about 20 years ago. I had about 125 hours under my belt when we did the flight. I rented a 172 out of West Palm Beach and we went direct to Freeport. Took about 40 minutes if I remember correctly. We had to rent a life raft as it was required to be on the plane. Stayed 2 days at the Princess Hotel and Casino. Mainly in the casino part. As mentioned in the vid, they stated a lot of pilots are scared to take a single engine plane over open water like that. I don't know if that was just his opinion but if anyone is a little nervous about flying that particular route, you'll be glad to know that there's several cruise ships, fishing boats and pleasure craft between coast of Florida and Freeport. We'd see a boat about every 3 or 4 miles so it was comforting for me, as the pilot, to know I could always ditch near one of those vessels. I'd recommend it for pilot, it was beautiful fun and easy to do.
True! There were definitely a lot of boats around the whole time. And if you don't think that people are petrified of single engine over water, then all you need to do is read the comments below :P
"Good landing is any you walk away from
Great landing any you can walk away from and use the plane again "
Love the video!!! Everything I should have mentioned in my last video...first flight to Bahamas as PiC! Got a lot of questions from it and you answered them all!
Hooked to your videos!!
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Glad I could be of service. Jeremy was such a great teacher, there was actually a lot more informational content that I left out, so if there's ever anything I can do for you, just let me know.
Friendly Skies Film Once I'm done with my boards and get back into flying again ( october🙈) we should fly together!
Sorry, boards? Well, if you're based down by the Bahamas, I'm planning a trip down with a couple planes this fall.
Friendly Skies Film I might be down. Internal medicine boards studying is kicking my butt for now. I'm based down in Miami. Don't really have a home airport yet ...FXE, PMP, HWO, OPF, TMB...
Couple of planes you say ? Im flying out of Tamiami Executive in Miami. I'm interested!
Thanks for sharing that video! One thing I was taught here in South Florida: "When flying over water if your not wearing it, your not taking it with you" A vest with your supplies might be a good idea if you choose next time. Keep 'em comin!
"Mountains in the Sky and they change every day" Damn that was well said.
Glad somebody thought so :)
I've been dying to do this trip. One of these summers. Before 2020 for sure.
College graduation, maybe??? ;) Hit me up if you're going to be down there, since I'll be living in the area soon, and will also be taking my Warrior down from MA a couple times before then.
Come through! Its unreal flying yearround.
You can all meet up with Stevo and make some great videos.
I'm working on it! :)
Check out the accelerated courses available , Florida is full of them
I can answer your Skyhawk/C172 question! Every airplane put in the system talking to ATC requires the aircraft type to be put in, most controllers aren't aviation enthusiast like us and can't tell you the difference between a C172, C182, C177 ETC. They just know they are a high wing single that's slow lol. So the typical controller won't know what to put in unless you give them the specifics.
That's kind of what I figured. Thanks for chiming in :) It's so nice to have a controller around!
Mr_ATC aii
So, my wife has expressed an interest in getting her PPL, and I'm thinking of buying a single engine plane so that she can build her hours. I'm a 777 type-rated ATP flying for the local airline, and haven't flown GA in over 35 years. Pre-Ipad days. Suddenly, the prospect of flying single engine to the Bahamas sounds really intriguing and fun, so i figure if we're buying an airplane, why not get checked out and get back into it. I found your video and decided....yeah, definitely. On the agenda for 2020. I'm located in Jupiter, but used to live just down the street from the Lantana airport, so your video has a real "local" feel to it. Although i fly for a living, I'm pedestrian level again when it comes to GA. This video was an inspiration!
Lucky wife! Have fun pilot.
I got my CPL in Florida. I really wanted to fly to Bahamas, but as an international student I was affraid of having issues leaving the country. I'd love to fly from Florida to South America going through all those Caribean countries :3 ... Love your videos !!
Nice video. . .I also thoroughly enjoyed the CRM between the two front seaters. You guys complimented each other very well.
Flown back and forth plenty of times myself. Always a sense of exhilaration.
I thought so as well :) Jeremy was a great teacher.
In 1970 my wife and I flew from Northern California to Great Exuma in our Cessna 150. Despite several mistakes in planning,
all of our landings were great. Love the video. 👍
Wow, now that's a heck of a trip! Sounds amazing :)
Remember that well, one of the worst decisions ever made.
Local Skydivers here showed up with pilots at local meetings in support - more than showed for the public hearing on the TCA here when that was a new proposal (we were at the edge of the top layer).
We knew who our friends were, even if it was only the Jump Pilots talking to them each lift. As a grass strip PPL student I wasn't in the habit myself beyond minimum controlled airport practice.
That was an interesting observation. The Approach and Centers in Florida sound so polite. I can't remember the last time I flew around California where they didn't sound distressed or angry about something, almost like dealing with DMV personnel, lol.
I feel the same way about many towers up here in New England. It's impressive given how CRAZY busy they are down there, too!
Just flew the Florida Keys for the first time what an experience. Next year it’s the
Bahamas!
Enjoyed watching you guys fly Cessna. It felt like you all were in a good spirit and this is something I would love to do in the future. Currently I’m doing lots of skydiving but getting ready to start my PPL training. Best of luck to you all!
Fantastic another 172M still flying!
Wait, flying east out of Miami? First, I've been to Miami and it was amazing there. Secondly, THATS THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE! Lastly you are recreating the flight of flight 19 almost perfectly.
Actual lastly, the area you were flying in (Miami keys and Bahamas) is what steveo1kinevo does which seems like a dream it's too good
Oh Steveo's job is way too perfect. I had no idea how much, and now I do :)
Friendly Skies Film did you see any UFOs (lol)😂
lol no, but I was looking ;)
Ryan. is it safe to fly tbrough Bermuda triangle?
PRINCE NASSIM course it's safe, all flyings safe... well maybe not mine... but there's been ,any reports of planes crashing in the triangle (or actually near it) so...
I always heard it as a good landing is anyone you can walk away from, a great landing is one where the passenger says 'Are we on the ground yet.''
It seems to me that once you're more than a mile off shore, the engine switches to 'Auto Rough', even though the instruments tell you everything is fine. I could fly 400 miles or more over land, and never even think about the engine, but over five miles off shore, or after sundown, that engine just seems to be ready to sputter to a stop at any second. I'll never figure out how I made it back every time!
It's not there any more, but I used to fly out of Waterford, CT., about 4.9 miles west of Groton, CT., and we'd go out to Block Island all the time, and on those trips, you never thought about the engine, you just were so used to it running, and you knew it would, plus you were familiar with everything along the way. So, a trip across the 60-70 miles to the Bahamas isn't an issue for the airplane, but the pilot, well, that's another story, I guess. :D
Well said! My thoughts exactly flying up in the same area to BID, MVY, and ACK.
Glad you had fun while you were here, many more adventures still to come! 🛩
I literally got a few more offers for some today, and we're working hard on a proposal for that real estate project I told you about, so yes... many, many, many more >:)
I miss this channel. Was really my firs aviation channel i started following. Nick Where are you ???
I was considering a trip from Germany to England after I get my license. I was very scared of all that water, but this video helped alleviate that a bit. Thanks! :)
You can always count on me to encourage an adventure! :)
Excellent video, I might go for an over-water flight from LEAX to GEML (Melilla) across the Mediterranean Sea.
I often see in these kind of videos how the flaps are extended at 50 feet over the threshold or retracted during the flare. Why would anyone change the configuration of the aircraft on such a critical phase of the flight?
Select flaps 10 on downwind, flaps 20 on base and full flaps on final (if required), but don't extended the flaps when you're already over the runway! It will require sudden control inputs too close to the ground.
Definitely go for it! It's a great adventure. In this case, we kept things fast for the waiting turboprop. I don't mean to sound conceded, but honestly, I see no problem adding flaps at anytime as long as you're good at flying :P
LOL, that stall horn music at the end.
Something I'm not used to hearing in my Warrior :)
I used to fly simulated flights with the Cessna and I would try my best to land (touch the runway in actuality) when the stall sound plays or as close as possible. As of now, I can say that I have around 500 hours of flying in Cessna 172 in Flight Simulator X. I am talking about the default aircraft that it comes with by the way.
What's really too bad is that flight simulators sound the stall horn AT the stall, not five knots before, like real planes. Really gives the wrong impression to simulator pilots :-/
I understand that and I am going to an aviation college this fall and I have heard from the people in the aviation department saying that and I am now treating it with that in mind and when it comes to my training, it would very different.
Lol @ Cessna music, test that horn every landing.
I'll have to remember to put on my disco shirt the next time I Fly, ha ha... Good video!
Hey, it called for a special attire beyond my usual slew of black polos ;)
Great video!! I have also always thought the process to go over there to be complex, but if you get everything ready beforehand it looks like a smooth routine flight!! I'll wait for these afternoon storms to calm down and maybe give it a try after I finish my instrument!! Cheers!
nice video. I might suggest looking into wearing aUSCG-approved Type III Manual Vest for extended over water flights. If you have to do a water landing, they would be nice to have on already. You can find them on Pilot Mall or other aviation stores. I used to fly over the Long Island Sound some and used them.
What a great video.. very informative but yet simple. And a very smooth landing :)
Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks, mate :)
lately i have been used to give your videos a thumb up even before they start :D enjoying them.
A good landing is the one which would never hurt the aircraft
A Great landind is that which will not awake a sleeping pax on board
A Safe landing is Which you could walk away from
those are my personal categorisation :D
Only once have I successful kept a passenger sleeping, but I don't get the opportunity very often. Lol had to wake her up outside the hangar, and it was so nice and warm inside the plane, nobody wanted to get out! XD
Awesome video!! I learned to fly in Key West and would fly to Bimini great memories!! Thank you
Just so beautiful and incredible views too.great plane too..Thank you so much for your videos to.
It was better than I ever imagined.
Great video, very helpfull to learn english ATC and great landing ! I usually fly a 172 and not making this kind of smooth touch.
Haha thanks. Glad you found it helpful :)
I love that flight made it many times. My first weekend flight after my private with 46 hrs total was Marsh Harbor myam it was great and I WAS HOOKED.
Oh I'm in the exact same place now. Totally hooked!
Such a dope video. I'm jealous. Subscribed. I will for the moment live vicariously through you.
Haha glad I could bring you some smiles :)
There's a drive through the desert that I've taken a few times in Utah where signs say "no services 100 miles" along the Interstate. It's unnerving getting to that 50 mile point where I realize I'm surrounded by nothingness and the chills begin to creep up, lol. I wonder if this would be the same level of spookiness for me. I think I'd be less spooked over water on the trip you did, especially having a plan along with good communications/ emergency equipment available. Thanks for another great video!
I get creeped out driving through 10mi of woods up here in MA, so I'm with you! :)
Friendly Skies Film I'm new to this channel, do you live in MA? If so where?
I do! Welcome! I'm based out of Worcester (ORH), and frequent my flight school at Mansfield (1B9) weekly. You in the area as well?
Cool! I'm 13 years old an I love general aviation. I live in a small town called Hardwick. Its right next to the Quabbin reservoir. I just took my first discovery flight, In Michigan(i have a summer house there) And i loved it. I hope to get flight lessons next year!
Also, Hardwick is near Barre,Brookfield, And templeton, If you know where that is.
Nice video. Never thought of flying to the Bahamas in a 172.
Love that little field. My family has a place down the road from there. Many an evening sitting under the wings of airplanes on the flight line watching takeoffs and landings.
It's funny you're flying out of there. A lot different than our old school New England airports. No Triangle Air Park up here.
We got a couple, but you're right, nothing like down there!
Love this one and the story that goes along with it. Keep flying with other pilots. I like hearing different approaches, but with your style of video. :)
That's one of the reasons I enjoy having a channel so much. Other pilots live within their community, or in their own cockpits, but I get to seek advice from literally thousands of pilots :)
Really like your preflight discussion, use of technology, filing and activating a flight plan.
Glad you enjoyed :)
Added two of your videos to Bahamas Pilot Facebook Page...
Cool! I have to check the page out. I hope to be spending a lot more time out there soon. Wondering how Walker's faired in the storm...
Thank you for making video's. You got me in to flying as well! I do not not have enough money for motor flying but I have my GPL and fly the ls6 and duo discus now! Thank you
So glad I could have effect on you :)
Looks like you had a great time cant wait till I finish my pilots license will be off to the isles of scilly asap :D
It's the most rewarding thing you'll ever do :)
No way! Thats my goal as soon as I finish my PPL! Where are you based?
EGNX
Nice to see the Lantana airport from the start. I feel blessed to call South Florida my birthplace and my home for 45+ years. Even if it is extremely flat. ;)
Looking forward to moving down and calling it my home soon :)
Nick, big fan of your channel. Based in South Florida HWO. Own a PA28-140. Love to fly with you. Sonia captured my bird in a video this past winter. Enjoy your time in the tropics.
Glad you enjoyed :) I'll be moving to the area sometime in the next year, and will be real estate hunting a few times along the way. Shoot me an email anytime so I have your info, and we can chat. Trained in a 140 and own two now, so they'll always have a soft spot for me.
Friendly Skies Film sounds like a great plan. Besides being a pilot, I am a home inspector, and a local elected official. I have a lot of realtor contacts all over South Florida. Let me know if I can help.
Well, well, well, it's almost as if you've been listening to some of my other conversations today. It seems we will likely have a lot to talk about.
Just awesome, Nick. Thanks to you and all involved.
Glad you enjoyed :)
Love watching and listening to you guys. Makes me wish I was a pilot, and had a plane.
Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
Same to you, mate! Hey, that's what got me into it :)
I'm back from Spain, Awesome video!
Hey hey! Thanks. How was the trip?
Friendly Skies Film It was great! How were the Bahamas?
Way better than I had even hoped. Just paradise on earth :)
I love it there, I'm going to Puerto Rico Aug 20th I'm very excited!
Gosh you travel a lot. So lucky.
Fun flight! Thanks for bringing us along!
Good vid. Did you go over at 3500 ' the entire time or climb higher when the camera was off? I always though I'd go at 7500'. I've always wanted to do that trip.
That landing looked feather light to my untrained eye - well done 👍
Great Job... Excellent vid.. I plan on doing Bahama flight next year in a Mooney from my flight club... Cant wait.. Hope to have similar footage...
Did this 12 years ago or more, for us Brits, it's like crossing the Channel to France. Just checked, it was 2003, scary passage of time.
After watching your videos I'm now getting flying lessons, just booked the first one
:D Let us know how it goes.
Thank you. That was fun and interesting to watch. Flying seems relatively easy. Learning proper radio communications and terminology however, seems much harder.
That's what we tend to say at my flight school. The regulatory stuff is the real pain, though...
"Okay we can taxi the rest of the way" hahahahaha I've been there
That comment in combination with the stall horn snake charmer music had me laughing pretty hard, not gonna lie
Never thought about the clouds being the mountains of the skies
They're even more beautiful than the other kind if you ask me :)
Come out to the Pacific Northwest in the spring, Nick. We might change your mind about that. :)
Awesome video. I had to grit through the 3rd person radio calls. Can't stand those :D
@13:40 - Freeport approach is far easier to understand than many of the US airport ATC guys.
Flaps are degrees not percent. I had the same problem years ago for some reason as well. Kinda funny to hears someone else say it also !
Cheers, nice flight, and kudos for the humanitarian work.
I have a similar problem in my Warrior with the manual flaps, because when the handle goes UP, the flaps go DOWN, and when the handle goes DOWN, the flaps go UP! Agh!! XD
Friendly Skies Film - Brothers Remos G3 has electric flaps, but when the button was pressed down, the flaps came up. We flew like that for a year, before we simply popped the switch out, spun it 180 and popped it back in. Now, two years later, we still look at it each time to remember... At least it has a LED bar display that lights up next to it for reference...
I like the old Cubs with the crowbar handle. Pull down for down, push up for up, and they are instant instead of waiting for a servo motor to move them.
But, ask 1000 pilots to design their ultimate airplane set up, and you'll have 1000 new designs. We're never satisfied.... ;)
Soooo true. I need to swap my rotating beacon and strobe light switches... so simple, and yet you're right. I'll ALWAYS think of it, regardless of whether I fix it or not.
Friendly Skies Film - Human nature at its best !
Loved the video going to the islands. Im 50 now, but earliest memories as a child of 3 or 4 were flying with my dad from Ft. Lauderdale Exec to Freeport and others. Parents were well-off hippies (and as my screenname suggests, it trickled down), and had a brand spanking new 172 that ferried family and hippie friends to the islands for beach camping every weekend it seems.
Dad told stories that we were there so often, he didnt really ever physically check in at the airport, but rather the customs guys would stop by the beach when they got off work to have a few beers (and whatever else)...
I was on the sand so much as a kid, I didnt have real shoes until I was 7 or 8 years old, and thought everybody danced topless around beach bonfires. To this day, Im still barefoot most the time, and still love bonfires... ;)
What a fantastic life it sounds like you had. Consider my very envious :)
Brings back many fond memories.
I love these kinds of videos! Keep making awesome content :D
So glad you enjoyed! :)
I fly in and out of KLNA often for maintenance.
Really? Dude!! We've been missing your comments!
On a Brave Scale of 0 to 10 this is about a 3. I'll take 66 miles of balmy water with sharks to the Bahamas any day over 33 miles of crossing Lake Michigan's narrowest point, where you'll get hypothermia within an hour, even during August.
Awesome landing and very informative for student pilots ! thanks man...
Wonderful! I'd love to go flying with you Nicolas!
Awww freedom! I have thousands of hours of flying time and no pilots license. :(
Gotta get behind the stick (yoke) and take control of life.
Might be three years late but switch instructors or schools
Had no solo'd in three years - did some touch and goes with an instructor - he said I was good to go - first solo in three years Ft. Lauderdale to Stella Maris enroute to Barbados. Good luck getting the jackets on if the engine quits from 3,500 and you're trouble shooting - the raft should have been on the rear seat. Other than that nice video.
Great video cant wait to do this with friends soon!
It's really a must do :)
Amazing trip, Would live to do this trip when going for a honeymoon
Pilot: this is the most blue water ive seen in my life
Bahamian water: fool, this isnt even my final form
That's pretty awesome. I live in Alabama and I was wondering how complicated it would be to do some island trips and this makes it look really easy!
Easy trip, long for you, but easy :)
Wow, that was a terrific video. Thanks
Excellent! Glad you enjoyed! :)
Great videos guys. I love the discussion along the way describing the process.
I get a laugh whenever I get two contradictory comments in a row! XD Glad you enjoyed. This morning I got, "Shut the f*ck up and fly the damn airplane."
I thought it was a perfect mix.
I like to think so :)
I've been considering a trip like this for a while. Now that I have a new job, I should be able to do it soon. I definitely won't go at 3,500 though. I'm coming from the west coast of FL, so I'll be on IFR and climb up to 7,000 or 9,000 before I go feet wet.
Sounds good to me! It's an incredible trip. Enjoy! :)
Another great video. Thanks for all the information.
Glad you enjoyed! :)
Cool vid. I've always dreamed of flying to the Bahamas!
Be careful. You might never want to come back to the real world! Haha
Not much chance of that!
As a young kid, I spent some time in Northern Ontario, where Beaver and Otter float planes could regularly be seen making bush runs. This video makes me wonder how difficult it would be to manage a float landing on such a flight. Could be really hard to find a bay that is protected enough to keep down the chop.
Yeah, I've seen seaplanes with ratings for how high the waves can be, and it's usually like 3-5 feet, so it certainly doesn't have to be glassy.
Nice video. Also a good landing is any landing you can taxi away from...
Smooth flight and nice video!
Nice video. I noticed the access door to the oil filler was really flapping...never saw that before flying in a 172
Really beautiful out there. Love this video 👍
I can't wait to go back :)
Nice video, well made and edited.. Well done..
It's ok fsf, I'm finally here. You know this is the second time you've cheated on your low wing. You have to stop with this. High wings are irresponsible XD
Call me, irresponsible ;)
Looks like the hatch to check the oil on the cowling has a bad hinge at 6:50.
that was cool to watch..very entertaining😊👍👍
Great Video, forgot the flaps at the end, could have happened to me, too exited about other stuff
No, just wanted to keep it fast for the airliner holding short. No need to waste their time too :)
Ah, OK. I personally prefer a stable approach especially on an airport I don't know. But I understand your argument
Yep, definitely the way to go. I just had little worries about this crazy long runway on a smooth day.
cowling shakin like it's runnin on caffeine
Great video, very informative. Would like to see the return flight to US.
lmao 8:06 when the guy in the back leans into the frame
JP McKeag 8:05**
I saw that too ... i died laughing lol
FSF: great video and thanks for taking us along! One question: was there a reason to not climb to 5500 or 7500? Granted, you're going swimming regardless had you lost the engine at the half way point, but a higher altitude would have bought you some more glide range. Just curious.
Only the clouds made it a little difficult. Other than that, I agree, a good idea, but if it's really catastrophic, you're going swimming anyway.
+Friendly Skies Film True but extra time to physically get life jackets worn and gather all your survival gear in advance of hitting the water is always a good thing. The last thing you really want to be doing is messing around trying to pull gear out of a likely sinking aircraft so the more time you have to do all that before hitting the water the better.
@@seraphina985 I really agree with your statement: flying over the water ? Better to climb...
Agree. Would better to go higher. I flew our C172R from Jakarta to Port Hedland direct some 20 plus years ago. At 10,000 feet you have plenty of time to plan a ditching if you have an engine failure.
I've always wanted to do this flight (I went to ERAU in Daytona, so it wasn't too far out of reach) but I don't think I would fly an overwater flight without two engines and/or retractable gear. The added risk of flying a single engine aircraft overwater is obvious but with fixed gear, if you do have to ditch, you might be flipping the plane when you hit the water. Glad the flight was fun though.
It was spectacular, and I definitely recommend doing it if you're still in the area :) Take a look at some of the comments below about the egress rate and survivability of water "landings", I was pleasantly surprised!
keep up these great videos!
Will do!!
Nice video!
Friendly skies...I hope the owner of this Skyhawk does some repairs on the engine cover sheet metal...at 18:05 you see its loose!😨😱😲🙊🙉🙈
Not a big deal. It's just the hinge rattling. Nothing you can do about it, really. These airplanes are just... special creatures :P
Try the Great Lakes... Brrrr! Gives me shivers when I fly!
Those lakes aren't warm! Forget that! Only paradise from now on :)
I can tell you that every time I flew over a body of water in a 172 where I didn't have glide distance to shore, the engine always started sounding rough. Lol. I know it was all in my head... but it happens to pretty much everybody.
Auto-rough.
Is that Castor Troy's brother???
bad part about landing in the bahamas is the terrible winds.
Oh nice !!... now you can use it again , LoL
a little loose up to the approach on final but anyways.....it looked fun...
The only difference between the usual XC flight and a Bahamas flight is the water. No biggie, I encourage everyone to try it with proper planning.
Did I hear Lantana? Thats where I Learned how to fly with CAP there, the owner owen gastoway (now JR since SR passed) Was really cool last i heard from him
Yes you did! Lovely place :)
If you get a chance you should sit in with the CAP there some time (Wednesday nights IIRC), it's the 3rd established squadron in the US, really cool history behind it.
Excellent Video TY
Great landing!